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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: cc on September 17, 2014, 12:30:02 PM

Title: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winters
Post by: cc on September 17, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
1. The US just suffered through its coldest winter on record.

2. Antarctica sea ice set an all-time record this year.

3. The global warming temperature pause has now extended over 17 years.



Despite this data, the liberal media is going the extra mile to push their global warming scam on the American public.

AOL.com posted this headline earlier this week:



Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say (//http)



Scientists now believe that global warming is to blame for extreme cold snaps in North America during the winter months – and that it will only keep happening.



The "polar vortex" that plunged Canada and the U.S. into historical cold last winter is said by researchers to have occurred because melting polar ice changes weather patterns, according to a study published earlier this month.



A team of Korean and American scientists asserted in a new study that the melting ice causes the northern jet stream (upper level air flow) to shift south and bring polar air with it.



You just can't make this stuff up.  :D



cc la provocateur
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2014, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"1. The US just suffered through its coldest winter on record.

2. Antarctica sea ice set an all-time record this year.

3. The global warming temperature pause has now extended over 17 years.



Despite this data, the liberal media is going the extra mile to push their global warming scam on the American public.

AOL.com posted this headline earlier this week:



Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say (//http)



Scientists now believe that global warming is to blame for extreme cold snaps in North America during the winter months – and that it will only keep happening.



The "polar vortex" that plunged Canada and the U.S. into historical cold last winter is said by researchers to have occurred because melting polar ice changes weather patterns, according to a study published earlier this month.



A team of Korean and American scientists asserted in a new study that the melting ice causes the northern jet stream (upper level air flow) to shift south and bring polar air with it.



You just can't make this stuff up.  :D



cc la provocateur

^Too fucking funny. When what happens doesn't fit current computer models, just make up new ones that do. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: cc on September 17, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
lol ... So many times data didn't fly so  .... they have to keep hacking themselves .... causing a new tech word, hackterbation



Stand by. I'm sure the global warming robots will come up with prepared "explanations"  .... after checking and copy / pasting from the loon sites
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2014, 03:10:12 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"lol ... So many times data didn't fly so  .... they have to keep hacking themselves .... causing a new tech word, hackterbation



Stand by. I'm sure the global warming robots will come up with prepared "explanations"  .... after checking and copy / pasting from the loon sites

It's not like there's a lack of said loon sites. Man made global warming alarmism is one of the biggest businesses on the planet. Every big organization from big oil to big labour, to big NGO's to big government has a lot invested in keeping the pickpocketing of working people in the West alive.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: cc on September 17, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
Here's something you don't see every day: A comedian daring to tell the truth about the far left's global warming scare machine. Very funny and true stuff from comedian Michael Loftus's new show The Flipside which just launched in broadcast syndication:







Why do I have trouble posting videos here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tvpaD4oatk
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"Here's something you don't see every day: A comedian daring to tell the truth about the far left's global warming scare machine. Very funny and true stuff from comedian Michael Loftus's new show The Flipside which just launched in broadcast syndication:







Why do I have trouble posting videos here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tvpaD4oatk

Ha ha, I like it. "I need more of your money" and "the debate is over". :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Obvious Li on September 18, 2014, 07:53:01 AM
the global warming scam always was just another way to transfer money from rich western nations to poor black and brown countries.....it seems there is a bit of donor fatigue taking place among western nations so scaring the progressive elites into forcing their govts. to cough up more funding seemed to be the way for them to go....so far they have had the field to themselves....slowly people are waking up and telling them to take a hike.....maybe it is the fact that they can feel how much colder it is now or their bullshit is getting exposed
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2014, 09:38:24 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"the global warming scam always was just another way to transfer money from rich western nations to poor black and brown countries.....it seems there is a bit of donor fatigue taking place among western nations so scaring the progressive elites into forcing their govts. to cough up more funding seemed to be the way for them to go....so far they have had the field to themselves....slowly people are waking up and telling them to take a hike.....maybe it is the fact that they can feel how much colder it is now or their bullshit is getting exposed

I agree it was always just a wealth transfer scam with working people in Western countries picking up the tab for the entire world. However, in addition to international transfers, it was also from these same working people to billionaires, big NGO's, big government and big green corporations.



I sense a bit fatigue myself among some people and it's about time too. How much are we supposed to spend on failed green energy crony capitalist programs that benefit only a few stinking rich, but influential donors.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: cc on September 19, 2014, 12:16:32 AM
A Divine Tap on the Shoulder?



Al Gore's microphone fails while quoting Jesus on word 'hypocrite'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awtm4NoD_IM



Why can't I make vids work here????
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2014, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"A Divine Tap on the Shoulder?



Al Gore's microphone fails while quoting Jesus on word 'hypocrite'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awtm4NoD_IM

A little inconvenient truth for Gore. ac_toofunny  ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 19, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
QuoteGreenland's "Dark Snow"



Jason Box knows ice. That's why what's happened this year concerns him so much. Box just returned from a trip to Greenland. Right now, the ice there is... black:



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"I was just stunned, really."



The photos he took this summer in Greenland are frightening. But their implications are even more so. Just like black cars are hotter to the touch than white ones on sunny summer days, dark ice melts much more quickly.



As a member of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, Box travels to Greenland from his home in Copenhagen to track down the source of the soot that's speeding up the glaciers' disappearance.



2014 will also be the year with the highest number of forest fires ever measured in Arctic.



What he found shocked him. Since comprehensive satellite measurements began in 2000, never before have Arctic wildfires been as powerful as this year. In fact, over the last two or three years, Box calculated that Arctic fires have been burning at a rate that's double that of just a decade ago.



Box's findings are in line with recent research that shows the Arctic is in the midst of dramatic change.



In total, more than 3.3 million hectares burned in Canada's Northwest Territories alone this year—nearly 9 times the long term average—resulting in a charred area bigger than the states of Connecticut and Massachusetts combined. That figure includes the massive Birch Creek Complex, which could end up being the biggest wildfire in modern Canadian history. In July, it spread a smoke plume all the way to Portugal.



In an interview with Canada's National Post earlier this year, NASA scientist Douglas Morton said, "It's a major event in the life of the earth system to have a huge set of fires like what you are seeing in Western Canada."



//http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/why-greenland-dark-snow-should-worry-you
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2014, 07:08:16 PM
QuoteThis just in....computer models now say global warming could make Edmonton as warm as Florida or trigger the next ice age.

Thanks for the scoop motherjones. I will now be begging my MP to vote yes on a carbon tax.  ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2014, 10:49:18 PM
QuoteBP believes that climate change is an important long-term issue that justifies global action



According to the IPCC, warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and is in large part due to an increase in greenhouse gas emissions from human activities.



More aggressive energy policies and technologies could lead to slower growth in CO2 emissions than expected but this would still not be enough to limit warming to no more than 2°C, the threshold recognized by governments as limiting the worst impacts of climate change.



The scale of this challenge is such that governments must act by setting a clear, stable and effective carbon policy framework. A clear framework is necessary if energy companies are to limit GHGs while providing energy competitively.



We agree that burning all known reserves would probably cause global temperatures to rise by more than 2°C – and that addressing this issue will require the efforts of governments, industry and individuals.



//http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/sustainability/the-energy-future/climate-change.html

QuoteClimate Change



As Canada's largest energy company, Suncor is committed to operational improvements to reduce the emissions intensity and environmental impact of its operations around the world.



With growth plans spanning the next decade, our absolute emissions will increase. But there is opportunity to improve our performance, while investing in solutions and working with all stakeholders to effect longer term change. The single biggest near-term opportunity to reduce our green house gas emissions is through improved reliability and energy efficiency across our operations.



Suncor continues to be guided by the seven-point climate change action plan we first adopted in 1997.



We've been encouraged by successes on all of these fronts. But we know we must continue to find new and better ways to reduce the carbon intensity of our business, for the benefit of all involved.



//http://www.suncor.com/en/responsible/1394.aspx

All of the major oil companies accept global warming and climate change is real and man-made.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2014, 10:54:32 PM
^Of course they say that. As I said before the energy industry saw the way the political winds were blowing and hedged their bets long ago. They are an energy company and will continue to sell it no matter what we use.



Does that mean their board of directors feels climate change is happening, it's a dire emergency, man-made activities are totally responsible for it and we can reverse it by moving in caves? I highly doubt it, but I don't think anyone really believes that anyway including you.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2014, 11:04:12 PM
There couldn't be any benefit for them lying about it. It's not like they would be making extra money from what you would call a hoax and conspiracy.



It's official policy. When it comes down to it, they officially believe the same thing I and other global warming realists believe in.



Let's hypothetically say you were chosen to do some pr on the subject for your company. Funny enough, if you said the world was cooling and it's all a hoax you'd be fired.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2014, 11:31:43 PM
Quote from: "Romero"There couldn't be any benefit for them lying about it. It's not like they would be making extra money from what you would call a hoax and conspiracy.



It's official policy. When it comes down to it, they officially believe the same thing I and other global warming realists believe in.



Let's hypothetically say you were chosen to do some pr on the subject for your company. Funny enough, if you said the world was cooling and it's all a hoax you'd be fired.

No company and especially an energy one will say they do not support efforts to reduce global warming. You have to nowadays, certainly my boss says that too when speaking with the press.



However, as an earth sciences grad I never had a single prof that said climate change is happening, it's a dire emergency, man-made activities are totally responsible for it and we can reverse it by moving in caves. That is not very realistic or honest. Once we graduate and start working for energy companies do you really think this changes? Not likely!!
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2014, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"No company and especially an energy one will say they do not support efforts to reduce global warming. You have to nowadays, certainly my boss says that too when speaking with the press.

What's that? No company and especially energy companies will say global warming isn't real and man-made? Your own boss too?



How interesting.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2014, 11:44:50 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Shen Li"No company and especially an energy one will say they do not support efforts to reduce global warming. You have to nowadays, certainly my boss says that too when speaking with the press.

What's that? No company especially energy companies will say global warming isn't real and man-made? Your own boss too?



How interesting.

Of course not. Who wants to be labelled a big bad, denier and be negative action campaigns by slimebag NGO's like Greenpeace. Hell, I have to put my critical thinking skills aside and play along when speaking to the public. In the mean time we are increasing our capital spending on in-situ each and every year!!
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2014, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Hell, I have to put my critical thinking skills aside and play along when speaking to the public.

How very interesting!



Are you telling me that when you speak to the public you "play along" and tell them that global warming and climate change is an important issue?
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: reel on September 23, 2014, 02:51:46 AM
Stop the presses!  Someone made a statement they didn't fully believe for the sake of public image!!?



Unprecedented!
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Obvious Li on September 23, 2014, 04:11:22 AM
nowadays for a politician or company exec to say man made global warming is a scam is equivalent to using the "N" word in a Detroit restaurant....in other words if you want to keep your political career or company job...you play along for the sake of playing along.....privately they laugh about the idiot brigade
Title: TRe: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Wint
Post by: Obvious Li on September 23, 2014, 05:58:55 AM
The It Girl of climate change doesn't get it ...



Margaret Wente ...The Globe and Mail....Published Tuesday, Sep. 23 2014, 12:00 AM EDT



Naomi Klein is by all accounts a wonderful person – warm, low-key, modest, committed and enormously hard-working. She also looks terrific in a crisp white shirt, which is what she wore for a recent photo shoot for Vogue. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Vogue is interested in fashionable intellectuals, and right now there's no intellectual more fashionable than Ms. Klein. She told Vogue that her new book, This Changes Everything, is "a book about climate change for people who don't read books about climate change."



Ms. Klein and her new book are being written up everywhere. Its publication brilliantly coincides with today's big UN climate-change gabfest in New York, which has been billed by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon as a last chance (yet another one!) to save the planet.



Just one problem. The leaders of three of four of the world's top carbon polluters – China, India and Russia – didn't bother to show up. Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel stayed home. Stephen Harper has been widely excoriated for his failure to attend, but it turns out he's got lots of company.



The thesis of This Changes Everything is that global warming is a war of capitalism against the planet, and that we need a people's uprising to reclaim true democracy from the venal and corrupt politicians who have been co-opted by Big Oil. If this sounds like the Occupy movement all over again, you're right. "We need an ideological battle," Ms. Klein told the Guardian.



But wait. What about the rest of the world? Do they need an ideological battle, too? How do we get them to sign on? Every effort at global collective action has so far been a colossal flop, and there is not a hope in hell that that is going to change.



China alone now accounts for a whopping 28 per cent of the world's C02 emissions – twice as much as the U.S. Over the past five years, China's emissions increased more than the rest of the world combined; on a per-capita basis, it now out-pollutes the EU. India produces less than 7 per cent of the world's total emissions, but most of its people still live in a state of energy starvation. India's most pressing health problem isn't climate change. It's indoor pollution from dung fires.



The developing world is now responsible for nearly 60 per cent of global emissions. Even if the developed nations make substantial cuts to CO2, over the coming decades emissions growth in the developing world will dwarf their efforts. Yet in every interview, excerpt and review I've read about her book, Ms. Klein has nothing to say on this subject. Talk about denial! No book on climate that ignores elementary facts like these can be counted as a serious work.



The folks who revere Ms. Klein and gushingly review her books don't have a clue about this stuff either. I wouldn't expect Vogue to know. I wouldn't even expect the Guardian or the Nation to know. The CBC should know, but frequently does not. As for The New York Times – its chief climate drum-banger is currently Mark Bittman, who was formerly the newspaper's chief recipe-writer. He knows how to make a mean Thai beef salad (you should look it up) but is shockingly ignorant about the climate facts of life. He thinks Ms. Klein walks on water. He, too, says that neoliberalism is the problem and reclaiming democracy is the solution. He thinks we could fix the climate – if only we took on the evil greedy corporations and put our minds to it. As for the rest of the world, he doesn't seem to know it exists.



This is the most childish form of magical thinking. It's like asking kids to clap their hands so that Tinker Bell won't die. For activists, climate change is a simplistic and self-centred morality tale that pits our greed and wickedness against the Utopia of a kinder, gentler, fairer, better world. In fact, climate change is a complex and fiendishly hard problem, with huge uncertainties about what lies ahead and even greater uncertainties about effective policies to address it. The activists should do themselves a favour, and grow up.

 
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"nowadays for a politician or company exec to say man made global warming is a scam is equivalent to using the "N" word in a Detroit restaurant....in other words if you want to keep your political career or company job...you play along for the sake of playing along.....privately they laugh about the idiot brigade

Not the analogy I would use, but I get your point. I compare it more to a politician that feels compelled to attend a Pride parade even if their conscience tells them it is wrong. Just the price of business and politics here in "democratic" Canada.
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 23, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"nowadays for a politician or company exec to say man made global warming is a scam is equivalent to using the "N" word in a Detroit restaurant....in other words if you want to keep your political career or company job...you play along for the sake of playing along.....privately they laugh about the idiot brigade

Huh? They have to lie to keep their jobs? That makes no sense.



You can't possibly know what they think privately. But we do know what they believe officially on the record!


Quote"ExxonMobil takes the risk of climate change seriously, and continues to take meaningful steps to help address the risk and to ensure our facilities, operations and investments are managed with this risk in mind," the company said in the report.



//http://www.ibtimes.com/exxon-mobil-acknowledges-climate-change-risk-business-first-time-1565836
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Romero on September 23, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
QuoteCanada's Plan To Tackle Climate Change – Follow The U.S.



Barack Obama didn't just make announcements for his own country at a United Nations climate summit Tuesday — he got to make Canada's, too.



Canada made two main commitments at the summit, where countries were urged to bring bold policies to fight climate change. And both borrow heavily from industrial regulations the U.S. president has already set in motion.



One was to match American vehicle-emissions standards. The other, to curb the use of HFC coolants, several days after the White House announced plans for executive orders, and convened a meeting of business leaders who've committed to slashing hydrofluorocarbons by 80 per cent by 2050.



Both of those things came up in passing in the president's speech to the conference, among the list of measures he'd already announced. In that speech, he also announced plans to incorporate climate-change considerations into U.S. foreign-development projects, and referred to his far more controversial executive order to regulate the highest-polluting sector in the U.S., old power plants.



He urged everyone else to get moving on a post-2015 treaty, in remarks that appeared to be aimed primarily at the Chinese.



"Nobody gets a pass,'' Obama said.



Prime Minister Stephen Harper arrived in New York later in the day for three days of events at the UN and with business leaders.



"So nice of him to show up,'' one UN staffer cracked within the earshot of Canadian media, upon hearing that the prime minister was headed to town later in the day.



//http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/09/23/canada-climate-change_n_5871078.html
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2014, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote"ExxonMobil takes the risk of climate change seriously, and continues to take meaningful steps to help address the risk and to ensure our facilities, operations and investments are managed with this risk in mind," the company said in the report.



//http://www.ibtimes.com/exxon-mobil-acknowledges-climate-change-risk-business-first-time-1565836

QuoteExxonMobil Bulks up on Canada's Oil Sands



Big oil is getting bigger as ExxonMobil (NYSE: XOM), the biggest of big oil is picking up additional acres in Canada's oil sands region from ConocoPhillips (NYSE: COP). The $720 million (USD) deal adds 226,000 largely undeveloped acres of land near the southern edge of the Athabasca oil sands. It works out to a pretty solid deal for both companies, so let's drill down a little deeper to see why this deal matters.



What's Exxon Getting?



For Exxon this deal is all about access to future oil production. The company and its Canadian partner Imperial Oil (TSX: IMO), which is 70% owned by Exxon, already are heavily invested in the oil sands thanks to the $11 billion Kearl oil sands project. These undeveloped acres, which Imperial is acquiring along with Exxon, gives the partners access to future oil resources which can be used to grow oil production, something Exxon in particular has struggled to do in recent years. While these are high quality acres, this deal is all about the future as Exxon and Imperial will be required to spend heavily to turn this acquisition into actual oil production.

http://www.fool.ca/2013/08/09/exxonmobil-bulks-up-on-canadas-oil-sands/

Wait a minute here, I thought Exxon Mobil believes global warming is happening at an alarming rate, man is responsible, Canada's oilsands are evil and reducing fossil fuel use will reverse it?



Doesn't sound like their words are really matching their press releases does it?
Title: Re: Are U Ready for This? Global warming Causes Colder Winte
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2014, 11:16:38 PM
QuoteReuters) - Canada's largest oil and gas producer, Suncor Energy Inc, is shipping its first ever tanker of Western Canadian heavy crude from Canada's East Coast to Europe, a company spokeswoman said on Tuesday.



Suncor spokeswoman Sneh Seetal confirmed Reuters shipping data that shows the aframax tanker Minerva Gloria was set to pick up a cargo of crude oil from the port of Sorel-Tracy on the St. Lawrence River in Quebec.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/23/crude-suncor-exports-idUSL2N0RN25V20140923


Suncor is an outstanding company to work for, yet they parrot the planet is warming and man is responsible line too because their shareholders(which many pension plans are invested in) demand it.
QuoteSuncor recognized early on that climate change would be an important issue for our company and our stakeholders. That's why we introduced a seven-point action plan in 1997.