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Poland is a NATO stooge.

Quote from: Brent on June 15, 2024, 01:23:39 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/BMNLng2DOBA

They piss off Brussels. :good:

I guess that means Polish jokes from now on will make them look smarter.

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on June 20, 2024, 10:42:29 PMI guess that means Polish jokes from now on will make them look smarter.

Poles are shrewd fuckers. And because they aint following Western Europe's open borders, the joke is on everybody else.

Quote from: Brent on June 15, 2024, 01:23:39 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/BMNLng2DOBA

Its a helluva world where the Polocks are the fukin smart ones!!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on June 21, 2024, 12:09:17 AMIts a helluva world where the Polocks are the fukin smart ones!!!!

I don't think Poland is doing anything wrong.

They're just interested in self-preservation.

Even Trudeau slammed the door shut on Afghan refugees.

But like Poland, he opened the welcome mat for Ukrainian refugees.

I respect the Ukrainiianns. At least they're fighting and dying for their freedom. But the USA shoved $1 trillion or more into Afghanistan, and they gave it all to the enemy to kill American and NATO soldiers.

I have no sympathy for Afghanistan nor its people.
They didn't fight hard enough for their freedom so dictatorship by Taliban is what they get. But at least Ukraine puts up a fight.

Only because they are slaves to the globalists. They could have put up the same kind of fight against the west as Afghanistan did, at least any potential dictators they might have ended up with would be speaking their language.

Instead (and like Gaza) they are getting bombed into rubble, entire generations of their able bodied men slaughtered in the hopes of weakening the Russians before the NATO troops swoop in and similarly fail in the task. Because last I checked, the Russians were still gaining ground, even going as far as to thumb their noses at the US and her allies by dispatching subs to Cuba.

There is much you do not know, young padawan. And that's kinda disturbing, considering people like myself recognise there are yet substantial gaps in the things we ourselves know, yet you do not.

Quote from: JOE on June 21, 2024, 01:06:59 AMI don't think Poland is doing anything wrong.

They're just interested in self-preservation.

Even Trudeau slammed the door shut on Afghan refugees.

But like Poland, he opened the welcome mat for Ukrainian refugees.

I respect the Ukrainiianns. At least they're fighting and dying for their freedom. But the USA shoved $1 trillion or more into Afghanistan, and they gave it all to the enemy to kill American and NATO soldiers.

I have no sympathy for Afghanistan nor its people.
They didn't fight hard enough for their freedom so dictatorship by Taliban is what they get. But at least Ukraine puts up a fight.

Ukrainian elections have been suspended, press gangs roam the streets snapping up men and boys, churches shut down and leaders placed in prison or house arrest, authorities demanding European nations expel Ukrainian expats in order to throw more meat in the grinder, billions of dollars of aid and resources diverted to bank accounts and sold on the international black market, NATO advisors, trainers, suoply chain staff, mercenary forces all on the ground in Ukraine, and the coup in 2014...I could go on and on... but you get the point, or should. There's no freedom to fight for in Ukraine and certainly no democracy.

How many peace talks betweem Russia an Ukraine were scuttled again? I'm aware of at least one intervention by the US, and I knoe Boris Johnson put boots on the ground there to tell them to keep fighting.

Quote from: Brent on June 15, 2024, 01:23:39 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/BMNLng2DOBA

this is why I voted con twice because they stop illegal migration...

They took in 2 million Ukrainians. That is amazing.

Quote from: knows things on June 21, 2024, 01:45:53 AMOnly because they are slaves to the globalists. They could have put up the same kind of fight against the west as Afghanistan did, at least any potential dictators they might have ended up with would be speaking their language.

Instead (and like Gaza) they are getting bombed into rubble, entire generations of their able bodied men slaughtered in the hopes of weakening the Russians before the NATO troops swoop in and similarly fail in the task. Because last I checked, the Russians were still gaining ground, even going as far as to thumb their noses at the US and her allies by dispatching subs to Cuba.

There is much you do not know, young padawan. And that's kinda disturbing, considering people like myself recognise there are yet substantial gaps in the things we ourselves know, yet you do not.

You know Russia illegally attacked Ukraine first imbecile, right?

 :Doh2:

Quote from: archive everything on June 21, 2024, 02:02:24 AMHow many peace talks betweem Russia an Ukraine were scuttled again? I'm aware of at least one intervention by the US, and I knoe Boris Johnson put boots on the ground there to tell them to keep fighting.

Unarmed Ukrainian soldier surrenders to Russians, Ukrainian comrades try to kill him. Russians drop water and a radio for him.

This is a perfect example of the conflict/region:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MN3J0jnq58Yp/

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 02:08:41 AMYou know Russia illegally attacked Ukraine first imbecile, right?

 :Doh2:

Russia intervened after Ukraine started harming their own Eastern regions (ethnic Russians). The attack started with Maidon in 2013/14. This coup by the West started the conflict.

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 02:13:31 AMRussia intervened after Ukraine started harming their own Eastern regions (ethnic Russians). The attack started with Maidon in 2013/14. This coup by the West started the conflict.

She's vaccinated and could very well be suffering from that dementia the Koreans just discovered was being caused by it. You can't seriously expect her to remember that far back, let alone to understand that she is allying herself with card carrying nazis.

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 02:13:31 AMRussia intervened after Ukraine started harming their own Eastern regions (ethnic Russians). The attack started with Maidon in 2013/14. This coup by the West started the conflict.

Fuck Russia. No excuses. If you invade someone elses country you are going to be fired on.

China will be next...they'll invade Taiwan or Australia and then China will be cactus.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 03:38:56 AMFuck Russia. No excuses. If you invade someone elses country you are going to be fired on.

China will be next...they'll invade Taiwan or Australia and then China will be cactus.

The West invaded Ukraine first. Russia took a light touch approach initially but eventually had to intervene.

WEST: Aggressor

Russia and Eastern Ukraine: victims

It's really as simple as that. Do some reading on the guarantees given to Russia after the USSR disintegrated, "not an inch" was the promise.

Look into Maidan... Victoria Nuland's leaked telephone conversation picking the successor of Ukraine... look into the Nord Stream detonations...

You should count your blessings that Putin hasn't lost his cool otherwise radiation would be a daily concern for most of the world....and still might be if NATO doesn't stop its fuckery.

 :musicboohoo:

I'm speaking the plain truth.

I wish you'd do a deep dive into all of the propaganda foisted on us, the West.

It's the main reason why I won't reenter the Northern Hemisphere myself or try to take my aussie family back there.

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 03:58:13 AMThe West invaded Ukraine first. Russia took a light touch approach initially but eventually had to intervene.

WEST: Aggressor

Russia and Eastern Ukraine: victims

It's really as simple as that. Do some reading on the guarantees given to Russia after the USSR disintegrated, "not an inch" was the promise.

Look into Maidan... Victoria Nuland's leaked telephone conversation picking the successor of Ukraine... look into the Nord Stream detonations...

You should count your blessings that Putin hasn't lost his cool otherwise radiation would be a daily concern for most of the world....and still might be if NATO doesn't stop its fuckery.

The US has been provoking Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Quote from: archive everything on June 21, 2024, 02:02:24 AMHow many peace talks betweem Russia an Ukraine were scuttled again? I'm aware of at least one intervention by the US, and I knoe Boris Johnson put boots on the ground there to tell them to keep fighting.

There was a peace iniative from Moscow about two weeks ago that was shot down immediately by Biden administration.

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 06:52:58 AMI'm speaking the plain truth.

I wish you'd do a deep dive into all of the propaganda foisted on us, the West.

It's the main reason why I won't reenter the Northern Hemisphere myself or try to take my aussie family back there.

How many fatherless children has Putin created now?

How many dead fathers are there in the Ukraine and Russia?

If you think I am going to swap our MSN for the nuffies you listen to on alternative media think again.

You cannot scam bloody wars for crying out loud. 

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 03:58:13 AMThe West invaded Ukraine first. Russia took a light touch approach initially but eventually had to intervene.

WEST: Aggressor

Russia and Eastern Ukraine: victims

It's really as simple as that. Do some reading on the guarantees given to Russia after the USSR disintegrated, "not an inch" was the promise.

Look into Maidan... Victoria Nuland's leaked telephone conversation picking the successor of Ukraine... look into the Nord Stream detonations...

You should count your blessings that Putin hasn't lost his cool otherwise radiation would be a daily concern for most of the world....and still might be if NATO doesn't stop its fuckery.

Why in the world anyone of even modest thinking ability is still blaming Putin for the war in Ukraine defies belief

seriously. These muppets cannot sort out for themselves that this was a Western Aggressor move that had a single purpose? that purpose being To build a money laundering PONZI scheme designed to enrich a select few who were in on the gig. Including that scum dictator piece of shit Zelensky?

Jesus. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the following.

West encourages Ukraine to join NATO, a move they are CERTAIN will trigger a Russian military response. (as it should). And They do this under the false pretense that it will deter Putin from invading Ukraine. And guess what happens next? That which a fucking turnip with the IQ of a baseball could have predicted. Putin Invades Ukraine. Duh, he said he would.

And what are we left with 2.5 years into this unnecessary conflict? A country which has YET to be included into the NATO war crimes empire, thousands of young Ukrainians dead at the altar of the Biden cartel off shore bank accounts and no chance in hell of ever hoping to change the leadership marching these poor souls into an escalating war because elections are suspended indefinitely. Or until there is nothing left to elect too.

Yeah, that's democracy... the western dialect of it anyway. No wonder the rest of the world hates us. I can totally see why.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 02:08:41 AMYou know Russia illegally attacked Ukraine first imbecile, right?

 :Doh2:

Caskur, tell me you are not this irretrievably dense. I must admit I was rapidly losing confidence in your cognitive abilities as I watched, some times in disbelief, you self immolate in the gossip thread with idiotic suppositions that would make the faith healing black panther from Missouri blush.

But Then you go on to say this

What exactly is "illegal" about protecting one's interests against a foreign aggressor? And more importantly.. illegal according to who?

The aggressors? Because the rest of the world doesn't seem to think so or even care.

So the guy robbing your house is alleging you to be acting in an illegal manner when you reach for your gun and you give the slightest two fucks about his thought process why again?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 10:54:09 AMCaskur, tell me you are not this irretrievably dense. I must admit I was rapidly losing confidence in your cognitive abilities as I watched, some times in disbelief, you self immolate in the gossip thread with idiotic suppositions that would make the faith healing black panther from Missouri blush.

But Then you go on to say this

What exactly is "illegal" about protecting one's interests against a foreign aggressor? And more importantly.. illegal according to who?

The aggressors? Because the rest of the world doesn't seem to think so or even care.

So the guy robbing your house is alleging you to be acting in an illegal manner when you reach for your gun and you give the slightest two fucks about his thought process why again?

Are you trying to tell me the Ukraine were robbing Russia so Russia bombed the Ukraine? Is that what you are alluding to?

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 03:38:56 AMFuck Russia. No excuses. If you invade someone elses country you are going to be fired on.

China will be next...they'll invade Taiwan or Australia and then China will be cactus.

China will be Catus? Surely you jest.

How exactly so when they form a military alliance with Russia, Iran, North Korea, Turkey, Cuba, Venezuela and a host of other countries all secretly chomping at the bit to topple the world Aggressors. All fueled by the abundance of natural resources both Russia and Saudi Arabia has to offer. 

While we in the west focus on pronouns and ""teh environment" making ourselves weak and ripe for the picking

Oh, because we have those fancy little 6th gen F22 raptors which wont do us much good without the chips Taiwan used to supply before the Chinese blockade which we will not penetrate went into effect? Sure they can evade conventional weaponry 80% of the time. But their numbers are finite and without the fuel to run them or the chips to guide them they wont be of much use as these nations have BILLIONS of patriots ready to stand against us and a vast supply of firepower to use in the process. So 5 years into a conflict which hurts US 10X more than it hurts them what will our fleet of fancy 6th fighters look like? Assuming 95% of them haven't been shot down in a literal barrage of munitions fired upon them from thousands of sources

Shieet.. China has but to send an email and 90% of the pharmaceuticals westerners rely upon vanishes into thin air. 

And what do you think other emerging superpowers bordering or in close proximity to this newly formed alliance will do when it's time to pick a side? Do you think India and Pakistan will choose a crumbling empire that has some shirt lifting fairy nonce pretending to be a 5 star general?

wake the fuck up, puppet.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 11:07:33 AMAre you trying to tell me the Ukraine were robbing Russia so Russia bombed the Ukraine? Is that what you are alluding to?

:facepalm:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 11:08:05 AMChina will be Catus? Surely you jest.

How exactly so when they form a military alliance with Russia, Iran, North Korea, Turkey, Cuba, Venezuela and a host of other countries all secretly chomping at the bit to topple the world Aggressors. All fueled by the abundance of natural resources both Russia and Saudi Arabia has to offer. 

While we in the west focus on pronouns and ""teh environment" making ourselves weak and ripe for the picking

Oh, because we have those fancy little 6th gen F22 raptors which wont do us much good without the chips Taiwan used to supply before the Chinese blockade which we will not penetrate went into effect? Sure they can evade conventional weaponry 80% of the time. But their numbers are finite and without the fuel to run them or the chips to guide them they wont be of much use as these nations have BILLIONS of patriots ready to stand against us and a vast supply of firepower to use in the process. So 5 years into a conflict which hurts US 10X more than it hurts them what will our fleet of fancy 6th fighters look like? Assuming 95% of them haven't been shot down in a literal barrage of munitions fired upon them from thousands of sources

Shieet.. China has but to send an email and 90% of the pharmaceuticals westerners rely upon vanishes into thin air. 

And what do you think other emerging superpowers bordering or in close proximity to this newly formed alliance will do when it's time to pick a side? Do you think India and Pakistan will choose a crumbling empire that has some shirt lifting fairy nonce pretending to be a 5 star general?

wake the fuck up, puppet.

China is broke.

The USA has 5,000 nuclear warheads..

They will have to use them won't they.

CHINA has only about 320 nuclear warheads with another 150 being secretly made in their desert.

China is all about allusion according to Serpentza or whatever his name is who lived and worked on mainland China..

I doubt Pakistan and India will join China and Russia since they are part of the commonwealth but if they did then I guess we would be cactus.

See what happens.

ARMAGEDDON is coming... I am not worried. I am looking forward to it.

This guy updates about the CCP because he lived there for 14/15 years.

He exposes their bullshit.

https://youtube.com/@serpentza?si=wXv8uRLEKrLNPl9J

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 11:08:05 AMChina will be Catus? Surely you jest.

How exactly so when they form a military alliance with Russia, Iran, North Korea, Turkey, Cuba, Venezuela and a host of other countries all secretly chomping at the bit to topple the world Aggressors. All fueled by the abundance of natural resources both Russia and Saudi Arabia has to offer. 

While we in the west focus on pronouns and ""teh environment" making ourselves weak and ripe for the picking

Oh, because we have those fancy little 6th gen F22 raptors which wont do us much good without the chips Taiwan used to supply before the Chinese blockade which we will not penetrate went into effect? Sure they can evade conventional weaponry 80% of the time. But their numbers are finite and without the fuel to run them or the chips to guide them they wont be of much use as these nations have BILLIONS of patriots ready to stand against us and a vast supply of firepower to use in the process. So 5 years into a conflict which hurts US 10X more than it hurts them what will our fleet of fancy 6th fighters look like? Assuming 95% of them haven't been shot down in a literal barrage of munitions fired upon them from thousands of sources

Shieet.. China has but to send an email and 90% of the pharmaceuticals westerners rely upon vanishes into thin air. 

And what do you think other emerging superpowers bordering or in close proximity to this newly formed alliance will do when it's time to pick a side? Do you think India and Pakistan will choose a crumbling empire that has some shirt lifting fairy nonce pretending to be a 5 star general?

wake the fuck up, puppet.

This is why I miss my kitty.....when I was petting her I never thought about the state of the world.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 11:34:35 AMChina is broke.

The USA has 5,000 nuclear warheads..

They will have to use them won't they.

CHINA has only about 320 nuclear warheads with another 150 being secretly made in their desert.

China is all about allusion according to Serpentza or whatever his name is who lived and worked on mainland China..

I doubt Pakistan and India will join China and Russia since they are part of the commonwealth but if they did then I guess we would be cactus.

See what happens.

ARMAGEDDON is coming... I am not worried. I am looking forward to it.

Drop ONE nuclear weapon anywhere on the planet in an act of hostility and watch the world economy crumble to it's fucking knees.

Drop 5 in densely populated areas of the US and it's meet the fucking flinstones for any of the poor souls not lucky enough to be within the int ital blast radius. At least their deaths would be instantaneous

are you kidding?

Are you living in the 1950's or something where "my nukes are bigger than your nukes" pissing type of a contest had any validity whatsoever?

Far from it me to allege I am a gifted guitarist who can captivate an audience of props in a Kyiv nightclub with some really kewl tunes while young man are dying on the frontlines

or perhaps design to wear a skirt and some stockings to a meeting with fellow joint chiefs of staff or anything like that.

So I am unsure if my basic common sense qualifies me to comment on such intrinsic matters of war planning but I am going throw caution to the wind, go full metal MAGA and comment here nonetheless.

In today's climate of utter social media fueled idiocy you've got tom dick and dork rushing with eager anticipation and nee to collapse all of their compute systems into one of the biggest ripoff scams of all time. Cloud computing. Which means I've only got to take out a few key data-centers in the US to render a good 25% of your economy completely unavailable to you. Then sit back and watch as your dollar disintegrates  into flame fodder in your colder states just to keep warm. 

10 nukes. Check.

According to a simple google search the US power grid is separated into three major regions and is highly delicate and dependent on antiquated technology

6 or 7 nukes coupled with a side order of some cyber security attacks ought to do the trick. Check

There are about 12 US ports accepting incoming shipments of fuel from our world partners

a little sabotage here a little sabotage there followed up with 3 or 4 nukes should suffice to disrupt the supply chain enough to ensure a complete collapse of civilization in key areas that weren't all that civilized to begin with.

How many men of military age have we allowed through our southern border and have no idea who, or where they are?

check check

Should I go on? but if you add up the some of what I've laid forth already you can clearly see you don't even need 50 nukes to render the entire US neutralized for good.


But we have 5000 nukes tho. Yeah, I'd be shocked if we got 500 of those birds in the air before the complete collapse

Putin has already threatened to use nuclear warheads.

I have to sleep.... it's alright for you people who do nothing all day to waste bandwidth shitting yourself about the end of the world.... I'm hanging out for a new heavens and a new earth where righteousness is to dwell.

And if a man with thousands of nukes ""threatens"" to use them you don't think it wise not to provoke him to do so?

Especially when he is of no threat to the average American in any way and we'd actually be better off dismantling cold war era fright fraternities rather than expanding them?

I mean, after all, this whole conflict was instigated under the premise that Ukraine had to join NATO in order to protect them from Russia and Ironically it is the very thing that caused them to be attacked by Russia and yet their leaders press on by throwing thousands of their youngest into the meat grinder

and a person of sound mind and reasonable intelligence has to wonder why.

Save your keystrokes Biggie. Caskur is not the sharpest bowling ball in the rack when it comes to exercises in logic, or even common sense. Take it from someone who knows; even should you prove your case, the best outcome you might hope for is decades long antipathy in the hopes that somehow, somewhere, you will put a foot wrong on any given topic so that she might cavort about the place cackling "see, you were wrong after all and I was right".

She is a very proud, yet ultimately very disappointed woman. She's had the knives out for me for years, ever since I called her out her attempts to doxx V-Agent across multiple boards, even ones he didn't post at. When presented with common sense logic, she doubled down and proceeded to doxx ATVile, requiring multiple posts of hers to be edited and ATVile's full name to be but on the banned words list at Third Rail Forum. Years later and she was still at it, repeatedly linking to Mr Pickles personal Facebook accounts despite repeated warnings from Bra1n at Third Rail and ultimately a suspension which is how she ended up here.

And to be abundantly clear, I didn't owe any of these people any favours. More than one of them were opponents of mine so I could just as easily sat back and let them wipe each other out. Allowing for the setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, which was really the only reason I bothered to weigh in at all. All my input served was giving Caskur further reason to dig her heels in. As I said, she is a proud woman and a disappointed one. Being wrong... on anything... is a source of disappointment, shame and ultimately anger for her.

Know that she is one of those people you can speak the truth to for as long as you care to and your words will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes if it runs counter to any idea she considers truth. It's not that she is stupid, she just doesn't appreciate being found out to have backed the wrong horse and will insist until she is blue in the face that it is you that has got it wrong. It's who she is, she's been that way for as long as any of us have known her and it is far too late for her to make the effort and change now.

Sad I know, but true.

Quote from: horse sense on June 21, 2024, 03:41:39 PMSave your keystrokes Biggie. Caskur is not the sharpest bowling ball in the rack when it comes to exercises in logic, or even common sense. Take it from someone who knows; even should you prove your case, the best outcome you might hope for is decades long antipathy in the hopes that somehow, somewhere, you will put a foot wrong on any given topic so that she might cavort about the place cackling "see, you were wrong after all and I was right".

She is a very proud, yet ultimately very disappointed woman. She's had the knives out for me for years, ever since I called her out her attempts to doxx V-Agent across multiple boards, even ones he didn't post at. When presented with common sense logic, she doubled down and proceeded to doxx ATVile, requiring multiple posts of hers to be edited and ATVile's full name to be but on the banned words list at Third Rail Forum. Years later and she was still at it, repeatedly linking to Mr Pickles personal Facebook accounts despite repeated warnings from Bra1n at Third Rail and ultimately a suspension which is how she ended up here.

And to be abundantly clear, I didn't owe any of these people any favours. More than one of them were opponents of mine so I could just as easily sat back and let them wipe each other out. Allowing for the setting a bad example for the rest of the community to follow, which was really the only reason I bothered to weigh in at all. All my input served was giving Caskur further reason to dig her heels in. As I said, she is a proud woman and a disappointed one. Being wrong... on anything... is a source of disappointment, shame and ultimately anger for her.

Know that she is one of those people you can speak the truth to for as long as you care to and your words will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes if it runs counter to any idea she considers truth. It's not that she is stupid, she just doesn't appreciate being found out to have backed the wrong horse and will insist until she is blue in the face that it is you that has got it wrong. It's who she is, she's been that way for as long as any of us have known her and it is far too late for her to make the effort and change now.

Sad I know, but true.

I hear you bro. Loud and clear. I only take the time to comment in a spirited manner when I feel there is some hope of enlightenment on the part of the person I'm speaking to, or at the very least, those in the audience who may be watching the debate as it unfolds.

But in this instance she is beginning to remind me of the single celled parasites infesting backwards factory. A population of hopelessly dull insects which I regularly counsel Dove not to engage for very similar reasons. It's an exercise in futility to put it mildly.

It truly does baffle the mind to witness a group of similarly aged people , exposed to pretty much the same circumstance, have such wildly different viewpoints on any one of a dozen or so matters the current propaganda machine is setting forth before us.

I mean, you literally have a situation where the presuppose for joining NATO is alleged to serve as a preemptive barrier to a gratuitous act of Russian hostility also being the very single act that actually instigates the hostility which was to be avoided.

And to make matters far worse than one could ever imagine if they wished to script this travesty of justice before hand, Ukraine, despite the horrifying death toll hasn't even been accepted into NATO. And I truly suspect nor will they ever. So all of this death, dis-membership and destruction, all for naught. And these idiots cannot see this for themselves?

have we really devolved as a species to this low level? 

I used to wonder how empires crumbled. There is no longer any doubt.

I would love someone of reasonable intelligence to point out to me why WE, the US, are instigating a war between former nation states for any reason other than to fund our own criminal leaders via the industrial war machine kickbacks?

And you leftist scum have the nerve to point to Justice Thomas receiving a few vacations from doners? Fuck.. wake me when one of those 500K vacas results in the deaths of THOUSANDS of young Ukrainian men for NO FUCKING REASON.

If Texas seceded from the Union tomorrow and was brought back into the Union via force to the cheers over over 95% of their population who's fucking business around the world would it be?

oh, are you looking to suppress human tragedy and bring the bounties of freedom and democracy to the oppressed?

Well, if you are that enthusiastic about preserving human life and all the precious rights that come along with it surely I can point you in the direction of a small country, less than 2000 miles away which shares a border with a US ally on the island of Hispaniola. Those people could sure use a bit of saving right now as they are mercilessly slaughtered at the hands of a fucking psychopath named Barbecue.

And here's a bonus for you... if you didn't feel the incentives were quite there yet due to the rampant poverty the nation as a whole suffers.

they are black

and black lives matter, correct? You tell us this with every diversity hire and every instance of fabricated racism do you not?

so why aren't you off helping them, but instead worrying more about your Nordic brethren with the fairer skin instead? Fucking hypocrites... I swear democrats disgust me to no fucking end.  *spits.     

Now, to the question of nuclear exchange. I don't think it impossible, though I do think it unlikely that it will come to that. The people running the show recognise that which Biggie does - namely that more than one state actor commands enough nuclear weaponry to "get the job done" many times over. The reason they do not skip merrily down the path to nuclear armageddon is simply that it costs them more than they care to put up themselves. Me may tentatively rely on that and sleep safe, if uneasily in our beds of a night, for at least as long as it takes before we find a Caskur type at the helm that is prepared to lose it all just so they can have the satisfaction of sticking the knife in.

Putin might be the west's enemy, but he is no bumbling clod, certainly not to the extent the MSM has been known to imply of him. The guy is a patriot, he wants his country to survive with favourable prospects and is by far and away smart enough to realise this is not advanced by torching a sizeable section of the world's economy and resources. I casnnot say the same of Joe Biden; luckily for us he happens to be a vassal of the Deep State which also recognises the costs of overplaying its hand. China? It owns enough of a chunk of the US debt for them to at least think twice about causing its collapse and would prefer instead to weaken it, keep it on life support and subsequently milk it for reparations as Germany was in the wake of World Wars 1 and 2. It's all a balancing act, a rather precarious arrangement which keeps the truly monied interests dancing on the edge as they try to jockey for position.

That's not to say it couldn't go tits up at any moment mind you. I mean we do have other players in the ring and a comparitively under-educated one at that, rife with the kinds of assclowns that wouldn't think twice at pushing a Big Red Button to "win the day" irrespective of the personal costs to themselves. Hamas night fit the bill as one example, and they do have their analog in western circles too. You and I interact with the latter on a daily basis. Should any of them get within coo-ee of a superweapon, that might be cause for some real concern.

But on the whole....no, I don't anticipate nuclear exchange to be much past the boogeyman it has proven itself to be over the last 80 years. There's far less lethal means to express humanity's greed and lust for vengeance for it to represent anything past a "fine... if I can't have it then neither can any of you" prospect... in my estimation at least.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 04:00:47 PMI hear you bro. Loud and clear. I only take the time to comment in a spirited manner when I feel there is some hope of enlightenment on the part of the person I'm speaking to, or at the very least, those in the audience who may be watching the debate as it unfolds.

But in this instance she is beginning to remind me of the single celled parasites infesting backwards factory. A population of hopelessly dull insects which I regularly counsel Dove not to engage for very similar reasons. It's an exercise in futility to put it mildly.

Oh sure, I get it. In fact I indulge in the same myself and with similar hope of breaking through their cocoon of The Stupids to let the light of reason and understanding shine in. You'd think I'd have taken my own advice and stop wasting my own keystrokes for all the headway it's made in that direction. But then DKG would be sad.  :crampe:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 04:00:47 PMIt truly does baffle the mind to witness a group of similarly aged people , exposed to pretty much the same circumstance, have such wildly different viewpoints on any one of a dozen or so matters the current propaganda machine is setting forth before us.

I mean, you literally have a situation where the presuppose for joining NATO is alleged to serve as a preemptive barrier to a gratuitous act of Russian hostility also being the very single act that actually instigates the hostility which was to be avoided.

And to make matters far worse than one could ever imagine if they wished to script this travesty of justice before hand, Ukraine, despite the horrifying death toll hasn't even been accepted into NATO. And I truly suspect nor will they ever. So all of this death, dis-membership and destruction, all for naught. And these idiots cannot see this for themselves?

have we really devolved as a species to this low level? 

I used to wonder how empires crumbled. There is no longer any doubt.

We do seem to be on the downward trajectory of the bell curve, huh? It's not "all" for naught though or it wouldn't be happening. Someone is making coin out of it, therefore it is happening. And if I might use a greyhound racing analogy here, if said someone can troll enough of the dogs into chasing a rabbit flavoured mop as it hurls itself over the cliff, then said someone is going to have a much easier time of fattening out his wallet.

People like Caskur are the rabbit. We are the dogs. Any one of us can choose to act the part laid out for us... or say "fuck that shit" and chase something more worthwhile to chase.

Quote from: horse sense on June 21, 2024, 06:09:27 PMWe do seem to be on the downward trajectory of the bell curve, huh? It's not "all" for naught though or it wouldn't be happening. Someone is making coin out of it, therefore it is happening.

this is indeed true. Just like the stock market thieves found a way to make money on the way up and even more money on the way down through short sales so is the same case here.

they profit on keeping people stupid with an idea and a piece of paper which tells them they are smart. Sometimes it's scary

I am pretty sure, no absolutely positive I know more than you predestrian dweebs...

You are lucky I give you the time of my day?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 02:42:03 PMAnd if a man with thousands of nukes ""threatens"" to use them you don't think it wise not to provoke him to do so?

Especially when he is of no threat to the average American in any way and we'd actually be better off dismantling cold war era fright fraternities rather than expanding them?

I mean, after all, this whole conflict was instigated under the premise that Ukraine had to join NATO in order to protect them from Russia and Ironically it is the very thing that caused them to be attacked by Russia and yet their leaders press on by throwing thousands of their youngest into the meat grinder

and a person of sound mind and reasonable intelligence has to wonder why.

I am losing patience with people that accept the Biden narrative that Putin attacked Ukraine without provocation. Sorry, instigation.

Quote from: Thiel on June 21, 2024, 08:06:42 PMI am losing patience with people that accept the Biden narrative that Putin attacked Ukraine without provocation. Sorry, instigation.

They are a mindless and rather tedious lot aren't they? Low rung spastics seemingly undisturbed by evolution and burdened with a vast array of cognitive deficiencies. Yet somehow convinced they are smarter than the rest of us. And you really have to wonder how something so paradoxical is achieved.

I'm thinking higher ed institutions bear much of the accountability for this travesty of reality we find all too common in the modern liberal

I do find it a  bit odd though as Caskur is not particularly known for her affinity to liberal idiotologies

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 11:34:35 AMARMAGEDDON is coming... I am not worried. I am looking forward to it.

SAME!!!

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 07:59:26 PMI am pretty sure, no absolutely positive I know more than you predestrian dweebs...

You are lucky I give you the time of my day?

Like you knew that Australian meat pies are the best meat pies in the world despite never leaving Australia in your life?  :crampe:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 08:16:30 PMThey are a mindless and rather tedious lot aren't they? Low rung spastics seemingly undisturbed by evolution and burdened with a vast array of cognitive deficiencies. Yet somehow convinced they are smarter than the rest of us. And you really have to wonder how something so paradoxical is achieved.

I'm thinking higher ed institutions bear much of the accountability for this travesty of reality we find all too common in the modern liberal

I do find it a  bit odd though as Caskur is not particularly known for her affinity to liberal idiotologies

Old Caskur has a bad habit of believing the mainstream media.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 02:42:03 PMAnd if a man with thousands of nukes ""threatens"" to use them you don't think it wise not to provoke him to do so?

Especially when he is of no threat to the average American in any way and we'd actually be better off dismantling cold war era fright fraternities rather than expanding them?

I mean, after all, this whole conflict was instigated under the premise that Ukraine had to join NATO in order to protect them from Russia and Ironically it is the very thing that caused them to be attacked by Russia and yet their leaders press on by throwing thousands of their youngest into the meat grinder

and a person of sound mind and reasonable intelligence has to wonder why.

You see I am a little different in how I approached the war in Ukraine. I would have straight away bombed the Cremlin... I have pictures of my mother-in-law, Kurt and Eric standing in front of it in 1975... the Ukranians have been forbidden by the USA to cross the border to fight the Russians. That virtually tying a hand behind their backs.

The Russians already murdered my country men, woman and children when they shot one of our commercial planes out of the sky BEFORE they attacked Ukraine. Putjn just murdered his opposition leader a few months back. And you fucking nutters here think he is a hero... I can't even make this bs up.


If you cannot see how wrong it is to murder your own citizens sending them to war over shit then I am afraid you've got bats in your belfry...

China is broke. They can't feed their own population so having a war is their way of culling their population. They aren't like you hoping every child lives, they literally eat children like abos used to until we made them stop.

They have fished their own waters until NOTHING is left and they troll the Pacific emptying ever reef that isn't manned.

They can't win a war... the West will start by taking out their satellites rendering them blind.

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 09:37:24 PMOld Caskur has a bad habit of believing the mainstream media.

And you have a bad habit of believing the underground media.... I suppose you think the earth is flat too.

Quote from: Frood on June 21, 2024, 09:20:02 PMLike you knew that Australian meat pies are the best meat pies in the world despite never leaving Australia in your life?  :crampe:

I went to Tasmania... that was overseas..

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:49:21 PMAnd you have a bad habit of believing the underground media.... I suppose you think the earth is flat too.

It aint even underground my naive friend. The US has lied, bullied, and provoked Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. Look it up.

They overthrew an elected Ukrainian president they didn't like and made sure this Washington stooge won the last Ukrainian election.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:47:45 PMYou see I am a little different in how I approached the war in Ukraine. I would have straight away bombed the Cremlin... I have pictures of my mother-in-law, Kurt and Eric standing in front of it in 1975... the Ukranians have been forbidden by the USA to cross the border to fight the Russians. That virtually tying a hand behind their backs.

The Russians already murdered my country men, woman and children when they shot one of our commercial planes out of the sky BEFORE they attacked Ukraine. Putjn just murdered his opposition leader a few months back. And you fucking nutters here think he is a hero... I can't even make this bs up.


If you cannot see how wrong it is to murder your own citizens sending them to war over shit then I am afraid you've got bats in your belfry...

China is broke. They can't feed their own population so having a war is their way of culling their population. They aren't like you hoping every child lives, they literally eat children like abos used to until we made them stop.

They have fished their own waters until NOTHING is left and they troll the Pacific emptying ever reef that isn't manned.

They can't win a war... the West will start by taking out their satellites rendering them blind.

My family fled the USSR. It doesn't exist anymore. The US acts like it still does though and that is why we have brothers fighting each other in Eastern Europe.

China is not broke, they own the US.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 09:47:45 PMthe Ukranians have been forbidden by the USA to cross the border to fight the Russians. That virtually tying a hand behind their backs.

Okay Caskur, tell me how you have become this willfully stupid.

you just undercut your entire argument then and there. For tell me how a nation that is allegedly defending itself from a hostile invasion is forbidden by ANYONE to make offensive counters, and not be a fucking puppet government of stooges propped by a foreign power for some mutually beneficial gain that has nothing to do with democracy or the preservation of their border integrity?

Are you really this fucking dense?

Gosh... the propagandists don't even have to make their bullshit semi believable anymore to dupe people like you.

astonishing

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 10:06:08 PMOkay Caskur, tell me how you have become this willfully stupid.

you just undercut your entire argument then and there. For tell me how a nation that is allegedly defending itself from a hostile invasion is forbidden by ANYONE to make offensive counters, and not be a fucking puppet government of stooges propped by a foreign power for some mutually beneficial gain that has nothing to do with democracy or the preservation of their border integrity?

Are you really this fucking dense?

Gosh... the propagandists don't even have to make their bullshit semi believable anymore to dupe people like you.

astonishing

She thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:05:58 PMMy family fled the USSR. It doesn't exist anymore. The US acts like it still does though and that is why we have brothers fighting each other in Eastern Europe.

China is not broke, they own the US.

They are broke, trust me on this one...

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:08:29 PMShe thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

Doesn't the hypocrisy just get to you on a level that is totally different? it makes you want to strangle them at times. Before they have the opportunity to reproduce preferably.

On the one hand you will see them shrieking in faux horror at mass shooting at a convenience store somewhere in the US and literally demand over and over we put gun manufacturers out of business. Because they care about human life of course

you mean the same gun manufacturers that are putting AR-15 rifles in the handles of children on the front lines of Ukraine to kill their own brethren and be killed by them? Sanctioned and even instigated by the leaders you voted for and continue to support to this very day? Those manufacturers?

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 10:12:53 PMThey are broke, trust me on this one...

I take it you serve in an official capacity as CPA for the CCP?

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 10:08:29 PMShe thinks the USSR still exists for Christ sake.

PUTIN IS KGB... HE WANTS THE old USSR LAND back.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 21, 2024, 10:15:58 PMI take it you serve in an official capacity as CPA for the CCP?

Do you people like ever watch news or read a paper... I mean what goes on in your bobble heads????


China is in the midst of a profound economic crisis.

Growth rates are flagging as an unsustainable mountain of debt piles up;

China's debt-to-GDP ratio reached a record 288% in

2023.4 Mar 2024
https://time.com › china-...


China's Economic Slump Is Here to Stay | TIME9

Sorry, tell me more about Tasmania being a foreign nation.

Quote from: caskur on June 21, 2024, 10:48:56 PMDo you people like ever watch news or read a paper... I mean what goes on in your bobble heads????


China is in the midst of a profound economic crisis.

Growth rates are flagging as an unsustainable mountain of debt piles up;

China's debt-to-GDP ratio reached a record 288% in

2023.4 Mar 2024
https://time.com › china-...


China's Economic Slump Is Here to Stay | TIME9

Japan has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world at 264 percent. The US is at 129 percent and growing fast. China is under eighty percent.

The difference between Japan and China compared to the US is they have huge sovereign wealth funds. The US has sweet bugger all.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

The West is finished. The whole world wants the West to fail and it is. The West itself wants to fail.

The West win a civilizational war. Yeah fucking right. Countries like Britain and Canada and even the US are having a hard time finding recruits to enlist in their woke armies.

Quote from: Herman on June 21, 2024, 11:34:30 PMJapan has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world at 264 percent. The US is at 129 percent and growing fast. China is under eighty percent.

The difference between Japan and China compared to the US is they have huge sovereign wealth funds. The US has sweet bugger all.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

I suspect a lot of China's strength as a nation rests upon its ability to marshall a great deal of cheap labour. Where they succeed is their ability to dump a cheaper (though not necessarily better) product to market, making it insanely easy for large businesses to outsource their manufacturing there to keep their stockholders happy.

The same people parroting that China is in the midst of an economic crisis think nothing of buying the products this supposedly "failing" economy produces. A good example would be Australia's trade relationship with the CCP, where over a quarter of Australia's imports come from the CCP itself and of all its exports, nearly 40% are accounted for with chinese investment. And that investment is heavily subsidised to at or below its production costs by the Australian taxpayer.

A sweet deal if you can swing it as China has and it is largely a result of these kinds of arrangements that sees China able to pay its workers pitifully low prices. Meanwhile in the countries that afford the CCP this tasty arrangement the cost of living continues to skyrocket as the jobs market dwindles. Conglomerates pulling their investments from the shores of places like Australia while their governments concoct scare stories like "oh no, the CCP is in the middle of an economic crisis" while aggravating their own nation's prospects further by offering more and more taxpayer funded subsidies to prop up "our biggest trading partner".

China isn't in the middle of any economic crisis, not for as long as the west continues to bail them out in this fashion and at the west's expense. China's economic futures will falter when its trading partners can no longer bleed their own people to the extent China has.

Fun fact - Australia has a vast amount of mineral wealth, yet precious little in the way of refining or processing it. Take their oil reserves for instance - they have an overabundance of crude oil at their disposal, yet must import a staggering 90% of their fuel from overseas (Asia predominantly) because Australia's two remaining oil refineries cry "poor" and come up with excuse after excuse as to why they cannot upgrade their facilities to better provide for the country they are operating within. In fact, they are being paid billions annually just to keep their doors open.

Anyone care to wax lyrical about China's economic misfortunes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCDTHoHqbyM

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 22, 2024, 08:55:52 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCDTHoHqbyM

A child like understanding of international affairs. Ya, that describes Piers Morgan and a whole lot of others. I am glad to see he mentioned that the US has been behind every dispute in Europe since the end of the last Cold War before the US started a new one.