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Title: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on June 29, 2024, 07:42:31 PM

...and what will be the fallout?

For better or worse, only one I can see at this point stepping in is Kamala Harris mainly because she's is the Natural Successor and the Constitution would appear to mandate her as such.

Harris in turn would have to appoint somebody as her Vice Presidential running mate.

Should it come to naming a replacement, the Dem base might want Gavin Newsome. However, with Harris in the way and herself having presidential aspirations, I don't see how this is possible.

Unless the DNC and perhaps someone like Barrack Obama steps in to intervene.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on June 29, 2024, 09:58:02 PM
Replace him with a freshly pooped dog turd.  It should pick up 10 percentage points over Joe easily.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Lokmar on June 29, 2024, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: JOE on June 29, 2024, 07:42:31 PM

...and what will be the fallout?

For better or worse, only one I can see at this point stepping in is Kamala Harris mainly because she's is the Natural Successor and the Constitution would appear to mandate her as such.

Harris in turn would have to appoint somebody as her Vice Presidential running mate.

Should it come to naming a replacement, the Dem base might want Gavin Newsome. However, with Harris in the way and herself having presidential aspirations, I don't see how this is possible.

Unless the DNC and perhaps someone like Barrack Obama steps in to intervene.

Any thoughts?

Doesnt matter. TRUMP WINS!
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on June 30, 2024, 04:29:43 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on June 29, 2024, 10:22:01 PMDoesnt matter. TRUMP WINS!

Looks increasingly that way.

The Democrats did this to themselves by creating their own ungovernable clusterfuck. I think the woke faction didn't want anyone like Andrew Cuomo because he oozed with 'toxic masculinity'. Or Joe Manchin. So now they're stuck with a senile old man like Biden whom they can easily manipulate.

All the moderators like Manchin & Sinema are leaving the party and becoming independents. And RFK will likely take more votes away from the Democrats.

The Democrats are in trouble come November fer sure L okmeer.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Oerdin on July 04, 2024, 05:30:44 PM
It would have to Kamala "Heels Up" Harris as the racist left would revolt if the quarter black woman was passed over plus none of Biden's campaign funds could be used by anyone else other than Harris. 

Fortunely, Kamala's poll numbers are even worse than brain dead Biden's.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Biggie Smiles on July 04, 2024, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Oerdin on July 04, 2024, 05:30:44 PMIt would have to Kamala "Heels Up" Harris as the racist left would revolt if the quarter black woman was passed over plus none of Biden's campaign funds could be used by anyone else other than Harris. 

Fortunely, Kamala's poll numbers are even worse than brain dead Biden's.
Gorilla Harris is going to step aside in favor Big Iron Mike.

watch.

All that gaslighting about hating politics and not wanting to run? It's all a facade to position her as the worthy leader here only to raise the country up out of dark times.

God help us all if that woman gets into power
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Garraty_47 on July 04, 2024, 08:10:33 PM
Anyone the democrat establishment approves of enough to swap into Biden's seat isn't going to be palatable to the voters but the democrats are never going to run someone who might actually change the way politics, especially within the DNC, is conducted in 'Murica. They'd rather lose to a republican than win with, say, a Bernie Sanders or even RFKJr type candidate.

So what they'd need is an establishment-sanctioned sacrificial lamb... someone who either doesn't want to be president anyway and would never run again or someone who is disliked enough within the establishment to be disposable and preferably wounded badly enough that ever running again won't be an option.

There's only one person who fits the above criteria (the part about being disposable) *and* as a bonus can continue accessing/accumulating Biden's donations.

Unless they're truly complete and utter morons it has to be Kopmala the Cackling Copilot.

The only real question is what kind of masochistic idiot would accept the VP slot?
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Biggie Smiles on July 04, 2024, 08:24:54 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 04, 2024, 08:10:33 PMAnyone the democrat establishment approves of enough to swap into Biden's seat isn't going to be palatable to the voters but the democrats are never going to run someone who might actually change the way politics, especially within the DNC, is conducted in 'Murica. They'd rather lose to a republican than win with, say, a Bernie Sanders or even RFKJr type candidate.

So what they'd need is an establishment-sanctioned sacrificial lamb... someone who either doesn't want to be president anyway and would never run again or someone who is disliked enough within the establishment to be disposable and preferably wounded badly enough that ever running again won't be an option.

There's only one person who fits the above criteria (the part about being disposable) *and* as a bonus can continue accessing/accumulating Biden's donations.

Unless they're truly complete and utter morons it has to be Kopmala the Cackling Copilot.

The only real question is what kind of masochistic idiot would accept the VP slot?
Id say if it is Kamala they're going to slide in Big Mike just for the optics with assurances that she'll never have to do anything anyway.

then, you never never know, poor kamala might meet some untimely tragedy  like Air-force one being shot out of the sky by '''''Putin Man Bad'''' as it flies over one of the most secured areas in the US which just coincidentally has the type of technology required to counter all of A1's defenses  :crampe:
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on July 05, 2024, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 04, 2024, 08:10:33 PMAnyone the democrat establishment approves of enough to swap into Biden's seat isn't going to be palatable to the voters but the democrats are never going to run someone who might actually change the way politics, especially within the DNC, is conducted in 'Murica. They'd rather lose to a republican than win with, say, a Bernie Sanders or even RFKJr type candidate.

So what they'd need is an establishment-sanctioned sacrificial lamb... someone who either doesn't want to be president anyway and would never run again or someone who is disliked enough within the establishment to be disposable and preferably wounded badly enough that ever running again won't be an option.

There's only one person who fits the above criteria (the part about being disposable) *and* as a bonus can continue accessing/accumulating Biden's donations.

Unless they're truly complete and utter morons it has to be Kopmala the Cackling Copilot.

The only real question is what kind of masochistic idiot would accept the VP slot?

Thats why I think their friends will crash the economy and stock market if Trump gets back in. They'll hold the tent up for Biden but not for Trump
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Lokmar on July 05, 2024, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: JOE on July 05, 2024, 12:44:49 PMThats why I think their friends will crash the economy and stock market if Trump gets back in. They'll hold the tent up for Biden but not for Trump

Clown, the U.S. economy will rocket to the MOON! when Trump wins a third term! You'll fucking cry.

I'm selling my metals come end of September. Buying again in spring 2025.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Biggie Smiles on July 05, 2024, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on July 05, 2024, 01:03:29 PMClown, the U.S. economy will rocket to the MOON! when Trump wins a third term! You'll fucking cry.

I'm selling my metals come end of September. Buying again in spring 2025.
I am not as optimistic about such a launch as I believe the damage done is far too great and the hamstringing in congress will be far too cumbersome for the executive branch to be all that effective in reversing course

At this point I'd be satisfied with things simply not getting any worse at the same rate of acceleration we are seeing now. 
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Lokmar on July 05, 2024, 01:45:36 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on July 05, 2024, 01:24:07 PMI am not as optimistic about such a launch as I believe the damage done is far too great and the hamstringing in congress will be far too cumbersome for the executive branch to be all that effective in reversing course

At this point I'd be satisfied with things simply not getting any worse at the same rate of acceleration we are seeing now. 

Maybe it'll be a dead cat bounce.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Garraty_47 on July 08, 2024, 03:19:06 PM
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: caskur on July 08, 2024, 03:29:33 PM
KAMALA Harris with be the next President.

Her infectious giggle will disarm China and Russia.....lol


You'll see.

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God save the Queen
God defend New Zealand
And thank Christ for Australia.

- Russell Crowe


Hip hip.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on July 08, 2024, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 08, 2024, 03:19:06 PM


Demented Biden avatar_Garraty_47

Biden reminds me of those star trek episodes where a crew member goes crazy, blackmails everyone and takes over the Ship.

I didn't realize this could actually happen irl and on a grand scale. Especially to a major political party. But apparently it has.

I suppose in the future political parties will introduce 'a Biden Rule' to make sure this never happens again, eh?

I suppose Biden's actions are akin to someone with a siege mentality & theyve entrenched this do or die stance.

Scary

The man has to be removed for the greater good.

And here i thought Trumpers were crazy.

Crazy President. Only hes a Democrat
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on July 08, 2024, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: caskur on July 08, 2024, 03:29:33 PMKAMALA Harris with be the next President.

Her infectious giggle will disarm China and Russia.....lol


You'll see.

...giggling all the way to the presidency.

Yeah at this point can't see any other route or any way out.

The Democrats made her VP, so they're now obligated to go with her.

However if Biden had done the right thing, announced he wasn't running again, they coulda have had an open convention & wouldn't be obligated to go with her. And they could have renewed their party.

But as they say avatar_caskur caskur, "Only in a Perfect World!"

It's hard to find perfection tho when everything is so imperfect eh?
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: caskur on July 08, 2024, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: Garraty_47 on July 08, 2024, 03:19:06 PM



I was watching a black woman on youtube talking to someone like Piers Morgan... she was saying if they don't choose Kamala to replace Biden she was going to destroy the Democrats by taking ALL the black women's votes away from Biden and she sounded influential enough to do it too. So while Kamala is unattractive to most peeps, the black democratic women love her and are prepared to decimate democrats over this topic.
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: caskur on July 08, 2024, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: JOE on July 08, 2024, 04:35:49 PM...giggling all the way to the presidency.

Yeah at this point can't see any other route or any way out.

The Democrats made her VP, so they're now obligated to go with her.

However if Biden had done the right thing, announced he wasn't running again, they coulda have had an open convention & wouldn't be obligated to go with her. And they could have renewed their party.

But as they say avatar_caskur caskur, "Only in a Perfect World!"

It's hard to find perfection tho when everything is so imperfect eh?


I am not going to take much notice... when I come here I read a few things and put 2 cents in but I think Trump is going to win.

Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on July 08, 2024, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: caskur on July 08, 2024, 04:59:33 PMI am not going to take much notice... when I come here I read a few things and put 2 cents in but I think Trump is going to win.



thing is the Democrats could have won re-election if they made the right moves and did it right.

But of course....they didn't and they've blown it.

Everything in a Perfect World they say....

....Oh well
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Garraty_47 on July 08, 2024, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: caskur on July 08, 2024, 04:56:02 PMI was watching a black woman on youtube talking to someone like Piers Morgan... she was saying if they don't choose Kamala to replace Biden she was going to destroy the Democrats by taking ALL the black women's votes away from Biden and she sounded influential enough to do it too. So while Kamala is unattractive to most peeps, the black democratic women love her and are prepared to decimate democrats over this topic.

No racial demographic does or has ever 100% voted as a bloc.
That's just not a thing.

That's even less true today than during the Obama regime, thanks to his long list of fuckups and failures.

The democrats were relatively successful at centering identity politics and then taking those constituencies for granted but it was always going to blow up in their faces when people realized the democrats were only saying shit to get elected and didn't mean any of it. That's already happening.

Do the democrats still enjoy an unearned plurality of the black vote? Maybe so. But it's mostly older voters. The youth are leaving in droves, just like the youth of every other demographic are abandoning the democrats.

If the democrats could articulate a substantive argument for passing over Kamala it would piss a certain number of people off, but not all of them. However the democrats wouldn't know a substantive argument if it kicked them in the teeth. All they know or have is identity-based box-checking bullshit and in this case that's working against them, not for them.

They did it to themselves though, so... /shrug
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: JOE on July 08, 2024, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: caskur on July 08, 2024, 04:56:02 PMI was watching a black woman on youtube talking to someone like Piers Morgan... she was saying if they don't choose Kamala to replace Biden she was going to destroy the Democrats by taking ALL the black women's votes away from Biden and she sounded influential enough to do it too. So while Kamala is unattractive to most peeps, the black democratic women love her and are prepared to decimate democrats over this topic.

Yknow win or lose, the Democrats should just go with Kamala if a new nomination process would end in a messy clusterfuck at their convention.

Worst she could do us at least 200 EVs.

It's a slim but narrow chance she might even win. But at least she could hang onto their traditional blue states like California and New York. Plus the other ones too.

It's better to lose and get 230 EVs or so than Biden getting blown out with 100.

Whatever people think about Harris, at least she can look straight into a camera and speak without fumbling a sentence.

But is in his present state rather pathetic.

Maybe if he thought his legacy could continue with Kamala Biden might relent and step down
Title: Re: If Biden is forced to step down, who'll replace him?
Post by: Oerdin on July 08, 2024, 11:37:50 PM
A Parkinson's disease expert has been visiting Biden several times per month.