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Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"Prostitution in Asia is different from Canada. It's like renting a girlfriend for the night.

Quote from: "Shen Li"OL was brave enough to reveal that he is a life-long consumer of the "world's oldest profession". I will reveal something about myself or rather my Daddy, I know for a fact he has paid for sex many times. Not uncommon for successful Asian men. Personally, I don't have a problem with it myself, but then again I realize North American attitudes are different than Asian ones regarding paying for sex. However, I sure as fuck would have a problem with my husband going to whores.



What are your feelings about prostitution? Would you like it totally legalized and taxed like any other job? For the guys, would you pay a whore?

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Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"Prostitution in Asia is different from Canada. It's like renting a girlfriend for the night.

You'd like to believe that! It's nothing like having a girlfriend at all if you have to pay for it. It's simply paying a prostitute for their services no matter what continent you're on.

Quote from: "Romero"I don't have to have paid for sex in Asia to know it's not the same as having a girlfriend. A girlfriend is someone who wants to be with you. A prostitute demands payment.



Your own words prove it. "Paid for sex". "Renting a girlfriend". When someone has a real girlfriend, they never have to use those terms.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Romero"I don't have to have paid for sex in Asia to know it's not the same as having a girlfriend. A girlfriend is someone who wants to be with you. A prostitute demands payment.



Your own words prove it. "Paid for sex". "Renting a girlfriend". When someone has a real girlfriend, they never have to use those terms.

I also said you pay one way or another. The Asian ho wants to be with me. They are just more honest about the nature of relationships. One night girlfriends are cheaper in the long run and you don't tire of them like we do with long term relationships.



Get on a plane to Phuket or Angeles City and you will never look back.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"I also said you pay one way or another. The Asian ho wants to be with me. They are just more honest about the nature of relationships. One night girlfriends are cheaper in the long run and you don't tire of them like we do with long term relationships.



Get on a plane to Phuket or Angeles City and you will never look back.

QuotePhuket or Angeles City

Quote from: "Romero"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"I also said you pay one way or another. The Asian ho wants to be with me. They are just more honest about the nature of relationships. One night girlfriends are cheaper in the long run and you don't tire of them like we do with long term relationships.



Get on a plane to Phuket or Angeles City and you will never look back.

You did it again! "Asian ho". You freely admit that you consider them whores before you consider them girlfriends.



Call them your girlfriends all you want(you paid for the privilege!). But when it comes to real relationships a girlfriend is by definition someone who actually wants to be with you. Your "whores"(your term!) wouldn't give you the time a day if it wasn't for your money.



Saying you pay for girlfriends is like saying you pay to have friends.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"

QuotePhuket or Angeles City

Phuket - Been there

Angeles City - lived and worked there. Lots of Mimosa projects at that time



We worked with expats who chose to work there mainly for cheap and easy sex. Crappy bunch of loosers they ALL were.



We has to work with them on projects but  ran with locals (despite language difficulties) as expats were not fun / interesting to be with .... a bunch of blaaaa guys that deserved each other's company

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"That is their chosen profession or part time job. Would you prefer independent business operator? You pay more for your ho's than I do. I get all the good stuff, without the baggage that goes along with it. There's no divorce, division of assets or nagging. My needs are satisfied and so are hers. That what I call a beautiful relationship. Rent a girlfriend for the night and you'll quickly discover all the benefits without the awful c word and I don't mean cunt.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "cc li tarte"

QuotePhuket or Angeles City

Phuket - Been there

Angeles City - lived and worked there. Lots of Mimosa projects at that time



We worked with expats who chose to work there mainly for cheap and easy sex. Crappy bunch of loosers they ALL were.



We has to work with them on projects but  ran with locals (despite language difficulties) as expats were not fun / interesting to be with .... a bunch of blaaaa guys that deserved each other's company

You sound like those bitter white hags I see in Asia all the time. The guys are all chasing the local girls and you get no attention. Face it, it sucks to be a white broad in south east Asia.

Quote from: "Romero"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"That is their chosen profession or part time job. Would you prefer independent business operator? You pay more for your ho's than I do. I get all the good stuff, without the baggage that goes along with it. There's no divorce, division of assets or nagging. My needs are satisfied and so are hers. That what I call a beautiful relationship. Rent a girlfriend for the night and you'll quickly discover all the benefits without the awful c word and I don't mean cunt.

It's rarely their chosen profession. Most of these women and girls are exploited, forced, trafficked and abused. You don't want to believe that but you don't see what's behind the scenes.



"You pay more for your ho's than I do."



I've never had to pay for anything and I've never been with a "whore". I don't consider women as whores. Again your own words prove how little you consider your "girlfriends".



You're not satisfying anyone you have to pay for. You're just another in a long list of clients. Millions of clients out there like you who think of themselves as the bomb when you're only nothing but a john.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Romero"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"That is their chosen profession or part time job. Would you prefer independent business operator? You pay more for your ho's than I do. I get all the good stuff, without the baggage that goes along with it. There's no divorce, division of assets or nagging. My needs are satisfied and so are hers. That what I call a beautiful relationship. Rent a girlfriend for the night and you'll quickly discover all the benefits without the awful c word and I don't mean cunt.

It's rarely their chosen profession. Most of these women and girls are exploited, forced, trafficked and abused. You don't want to believe that but you don't see what's behind the scenes.



"You pay more for your ho's than I do."



I've never had to pay for anything and I've never been with a "whore". I don't consider women as whores. Again your own words prove how little you consider your "girlfriends".



You're not satisfying anyone you have to pay for. You're just another in a long list of clients. Millions of clients out there like you who think of themselves as the bomb when you're only nothing but a john.

How would you know the circumstances of my rented girlfriends? I have never had a rented girlfriend who did not know what she was getting into and I have had hundreds . I have never had one who did not get into it of her own free will. They like fucking and they get paid well to do it. I like fucking and I am willing to pay for a good lay.



My ho's are cheaper than your ho's. We always part on good terms too. Try renting a ho in south east asia sometime and you'll see what a meaningful overnight relationship it really is.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"He has never been there once and is merely trolling the net with his fantasies



I have known dozens of expats over there chasing "girls" .. .yes, "girls" .. not "women" .... borderline at best pedos



All looser bodies, looser looks, and especially looser personalities that keep them from getting real women.



 ac_smile

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Right. Have seen it often there. "Little Girls" > Hey !! There's looser Dave  ..... he's good for a big tip if you lie and tell him he is a great lover



You are a sad joke to them.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Keep trying to convince yourself you are a man. Whatever helps you justify your existence



As for moi, I went there with a "real" man, and came back with him. Then he likes women to look like and be real women



Sorry if I have hurt your delicate feelings

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"How would you know the circumstances of my rented girlfriends? I have never had a rented girlfriend who did not know what she was getting into and I have had hundreds . I have never had one who did not get into it of her own free will. They like fucking and they get paid well to do it. I like fucking and I am willing to pay for a good lay.



My ho's are cheaper than your ho's. We always part on good terms too. Try renting a ho in south east asia sometime and you'll see what a meaningful overnight relationship it really is.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Those "18 yr olds may "say"  they are 18, a few might even be, but even you will confess they look 13 ... like toys compared to real women & that's the turn on



We met lots of dime a dozen "Big Dave" stereotypes over there.



 They were all hilarious jokes to the "girls" and to the real people  expats

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Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"How would you know the circumstances of my rented girlfriends? I have never had a rented girlfriend who did not know what she was getting into and I have had hundreds . I have never had one who did not get into it of her own free will. They like fucking and they get paid well to do it. I like fucking and I am willing to pay for a good lay.



My ho's are cheaper than your ho's. We always part on good terms too. Try renting a ho in south east asia sometime and you'll see what a meaningful overnight relationship it really is.

Have your "ho's" ever considered you as their boyfriend?



Nope!

Quote from: "Real Woman"I don't know how many times I have to say this, but PROSTITUTION IS NOT ILLEGAL IN CANADA.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"

Quote from: "Real Woman"I don't know how many times I have to say this, but PROSTITUTION IS NOT ILLEGAL IN CANADA.

True. But that means nothing to the "Big "Dave" losers. They / he  would be intimidated by a Canadian prostitute - Our girls look too much like women for his type.



These expat losers  can get it up only for those that look like little girls

Quote from: "Blue"Well I lost track in here fast.



Dave i see nothing wrong with you hiring them, but there is many who are forced like Romero says.

Many grow up in it, and it's there life.

No experiences here with it, but I know people who have been in a few Asian countries.

Most have been approached, many are underage, and work in the trade for mamasan for a little bit of money, or for the local pimp.

Slaves, or consensual many as you likely know are not doing it under their choice unless older, and don't know a trade.



As I said I see nothing wrong with the profession, but there is issues with it that needs considered.

No not all would opt to pay taxes, who would really unless thinking about Social security or something, but they should.



Oh, this one old guy where I worked never had a girlfriend, he always paid.

He said he never had to deal with the crap we who did date dwelt with, and it really didn't cost as much.

He had regulars he paid when he wanted some.

I couldn't blame him if he was happy.

Quote from: "Blue"Hello Ladies :) good day to you, I hope you are well, and happy.

No offense by my views I hope.

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Good thread, Shen, but how often a man uses prostitutes no longer intrigues me. It's a boring subject to me now. I am more intrigued with the female who uses male prostitutes. I'm intrigued because there seems to be more material out there on males using prostitutes. I'm fed up hearing about what some men need and expect. How about females who do this and what is that like for them? Sadly, we probably won't hear much about that here as I find the forums has mostly prudes. I doubt anyone here can contribute firsthand experiences but maybe some can from the many guests who are lurking on the sidelines.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Have you ever rented a boyfriend?

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
Have you ever rented a boyfriend?

I have never and will never. Have you?

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Blue"Hello Ladies :) good day to you, I hope you are well, and happy.

No offense by my views I hope.

Hi, Bluey! Is that you? What happened to your forum?

Quote from: "Blue"

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Blue"Hello Ladies :) good day to you, I hope you are well, and happy.

No offense by my views I hope.

Hi, Bluey! Is that you? What happened to your forum?

I think it's me, have to wonder sometimes  ac_bashful

Hey  ac_flower have any good milkshakes lately, not here for a while now.

The Forum is where it's been, the quiet part of the internet http://www.bluefrost.org

Quote from: "Blue"So, point being, would you rather me call you names, and insult you in ways you couldn't understand ???

I rather not ac_blush

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"Duh, I rent girlfriends all the time.

Quote from: "Blue"So, point being, would you rather me call you names, and insult you in ways you couldn't understand ???

I rather not ac_blush

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Blue"So, point being, would you rather me call you names, and insult you in ways you couldn't understand ???

I rather not ac_blush

You are a boring guy with a boring board.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Asia -> Manila "Dance Instructors"



AKA -> D.I.



 ac_biggrin

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Asia -> Manila "Dance Instructors"



AKA -> D.I.



 ac_biggrin

 ac_dance

Hahahaha! I know what you mean, cc. I know a few Filipina older women who are wealthy with DIs. Filipinos enjoy dancing so they get themselves a young male partner and before you know it, they are an item. Some of these men are gay though so in that case it does not apply.

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Blue"So, point being, would you rather me call you names, and insult you in ways you couldn't understand ???

I rather not ac_blush

Ignore that bastard, Bluey. That's probably evs. Cowardly and spineless. It can only act this way online because it can't do so in real life.

Quote from: "Blue"

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Blue"So, point being, would you rather me call you names, and insult you in ways you couldn't understand ???

I rather not ac_blush

Ignore that bastard, Bluey. That's probably evs. Cowardly and spineless. It can only act this way online because it can't do so in real life.

It don't bother me at all, it's just childish stuff.

I do hope you are well, and happy.

Me, I'm alright, and rather keep my money than pay for any, Ill leave that for the hard up people.



Here is a question I hope people answer honestly on here.

Do you think a relationship should be a 50/50%, or should someone give 100% ?

Also should they keep giving 100% if the other person does not.

How long should we give if not receiving it back, and when is leaving warranted.

I know most people have been burned, I have, and I gave all I could.

Maybe another thread. :)

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Blue"

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"


Ignore that bastard, Bluey. That's probably evs. Cowardly and spineless. It can only act this way online because it can't do so in real life.

It don't bother me at all, it's just childish stuff.

I do hope you are well, and happy.

Me, I'm alright, and rather keep my money than pay for any, Ill leave that for the hard up people.



Here is a question I hope people answer honestly on here.

Do you think a relationship should be a 50/50%, or should someone give 100% ?

Also should they keep giving 100% if the other person does not.

How long should we give if not receiving it back, and when is leaving warranted.

I know most people have been burned, I have, and I gave all I could.

Maybe another thread. :)

You aint getting any action either wimp? Even fat slobs like Renee would not suck your dick.

Quote from: "Blue"
 ac_boring  ac_boring  ac_boring

Quote from: "Blue"I think it's me, have to wonder sometimes  ac_bashful

Hey  ac_flower have any good milkshakes lately, not here for a while now.

The Forum is where it's been, the quiet part of the internet http://www.bluefrost.org

Quote from: "Real Woman"I don't know how many times I have to say this, but PROSTITUTION IS NOT ILLEGAL IN CANADA.

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Good thread, Shen, but how often a man uses prostitutes no longer intrigues me. It's a boring subject to me now. I am more intrigued with the female who uses male prostitutes. I'm intrigued because there seems to be more material out there on males using prostitutes. I'm fed up hearing about what some men need and expect. How about females who do this and what is that like for them? Sadly, we probably won't hear much about that here as I find the forums has mostly prudes. I doubt anyone here can contribute firsthand experiences but maybe some can from the many guests who are lurking on the sidelines.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"i better stay out of this as i pretty much said all i wanted to on VF...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......Asia is hell on white wives carrying a few extra pounds...many come home by themselves.....i have heard it a million times...same refrain ...same people....personally i think it is impossible for someone to comment objectively on this subject unless you have "been there"...and of course women get panicky when they fear/suspect their partner may start looking for something on the side....

for information purposes, i know dozens and dozens of extremely successful, well adjusted, wealthy western guys, well dressed, well groomed, who have many many girlfriends and travel the Asian business circuit......hell we would meet for drinks and fun constantly...these guys would definitely not be considered losers by any measure....i used to party with one Canadian attache who had 15 or 16,  (20 something) girls on the string at any one time.....they finally recalled him when he was 63 because he refused to take another posting...... .Big Dave is right in one thing he says.......once you have dipped your toe in the waters of Asia (so to speak) there is no going back....and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where



I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Obvious Li"i better stay out of this as i pretty much said all i wanted to on VF...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......Asia is hell on white wives carrying a few extra pounds...many come home by themselves.....i have heard it a million times...same refrain ...same people....personally i think it is impossible for someone to comment objectively on this subject unless you have "been there"...and of course women get panicky when they fear/suspect their partner may start looking for something on the side....

for information purposes, i know dozens and dozens of extremely successful, well adjusted, wealthy western guys, well dressed, well groomed, who have many many girlfriends and travel the Asian business circuit......hell we would meet for drinks and fun constantly...these guys would definitely not be considered losers by any measure....i used to party with one Canadian attache who had 15 or 16,  (20 something) girls on the string at any one time.....they finally recalled him when he was 63 because he refused to take another posting...... .Big Dave is right in one thing he says.......once you have dipped your toe in the waters of Asia (so to speak) there is no going back....and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where



I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

I am not surprised by that cc chick's response either. I have heard it literally hundreds of times from white women in Asia. I know so many men that have dumped their white wives in Asia. Once you have been with women in Asia you really can't go back to white women. They just don't have any appeal anymore. Like you said, it's not just about sex. Guys can get laid anywhere.



A good friend of mine is a Canadian guy in his mid 40's who had never been with a prostitute or a Asian woman in his life before going to Asia. After a few months in Asia he gave his ugly white wife her walking papers. He is a senior executive working with capital markets. He invites me out to private lounges where there are literally a dozen fine, fine women on hand. Pure heaven. Like your Canadian attaché friend he has a steady string of fine broads on hand at any given time. Asia is paradise for men.

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Obvious Li"i better stay out of this as i pretty much said all i wanted to on VF...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......Asia is hell on white wives carrying a few extra pounds...many come home by themselves.....i have heard it a million times...same refrain ...same people....personally i think it is impossible for someone to comment objectively on this subject unless you have "been there"...and of course women get panicky when they fear/suspect their partner may start looking for something on the side....

for information purposes, i know dozens and dozens of extremely successful, well adjusted, wealthy western guys, well dressed, well groomed, who have many many girlfriends and travel the Asian business circuit......hell we would meet for drinks and fun constantly...these guys would definitely not be considered losers by any measure....i used to party with one Canadian attache who had 15 or 16,  (20 something) girls on the string at any one time.....they finally recalled him when he was 63 because he refused to take another posting...... .Big Dave is right in one thing he says.......once you have dipped your toe in the waters of Asia (so to speak) there is no going back....and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where



I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

I am not surprised by that cc chick's response either. I have heard it literally hundreds of times from white women in Asia. I know so many men that have dumped their white wives in Asia. Once you have been with women in Asia you really can't go back to white women. They just don't have any appeal anymore. Like you said, it's not just about sex. Guys can get laid anywhere.



A good friend of mine is a Canadian guy in his mid 40's who had never been with a prostitute or a Asian woman in his life before going to Asia. After a few months in Asia he gave his ugly white wife her walking papers. He is a senior executive working with capital markets. He invites me out to private lounges where there are literally a dozen fine, fine women on hand. Pure heaven. Like your Canadian attaché friend he has a steady string of fine broads on hand at any given time. Asia is paradise for men.

Isn't it amazing the kind of perception of the world you can develop simply by paying $15.99 a month to view Asian porn on the net?  ac_hithere

Quote from: "Obvious Li"F...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......

QuoteWhatever you do, do not let your old man go to Asia.

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"
I am not surprised by that cc chick's response either. I have heard it literally hundreds of times from white women in Asia. I know so many men that have dumped their white wives in Asia. Once you have been with women in Asia you really can't go back to white women. They just don't have any appeal anymore. Like you said, it's not just about sex. Guys can get laid anywhere.



A good friend of mine is a Canadian guy in his mid 40's who had never been with a prostitute or a Asian woman in his life before going to Asia. After a few months in Asia he gave his ugly white wife her walking papers. He is a senior executive working with capital markets. He invites me out to private lounges where there are literally a dozen fine, fine women on hand. Pure heaven. Like your Canadian attaché friend he has a steady string of fine broads on hand at any given time. Asia is paradise for men.

Isn't it amazing the kind of perception of the world you can develop simply by paying $15.99 a month to view Asian porn on the net?  ac_hithere

This is the kind of typical response from white women Obvious Li and I are talking about. Whatever you do, do not let your old man go to Asia.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"

Quote from: "Obvious Li"F...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......

Picking a fight to protect yourself I see. Not a good plan.



You & Wave make that up toward justification of preferring and obtaining"little girl" types ... for cheap.



Seeing as you 2 brought up the subject of white "real" women in parts of Asia where the "little girt type"  trade exists, you are fair game for some reality .. (yes, a few of them might be of age but the requirement is to LOOK very young)



1. Funny you would try that on for size when us white hags "over there" are constantly inundated with local paramours selling their souls trying to get with a prized white woman ...and  especially a blonde ... and extra-especially with "woman tits". "Just let me touch. please"



2. Same for "real" expats who actually work there ... those not there for the local little girl type ... dying to get with a real woman for all the above ^ reasons



3. And that doesn't even get into the local females enamored toward white women ... real women ... often unafraid to approach and ask if they can touch real tits. A few proposed  freebee threesomes with us if she could play with moi. A couple suggested a group special treat for their local hubbies.



As to whether we ever took advantage of such situations, you will have to guess. You post does not deserve intimate details.



It turned out to be a white woman's paradise .. although a often bit embarrassing when approached a bit too openly in public



Nice try mate- but no cigar for you!! ..... After that miserable fail, you can now try another tac

QuoteWhatever you do, do not let your old man go to Asia.

Fail again. 4 1/2 years over there, 3 in Angeles City area and guess who I flew back home with?



All other real women we knew all returned with the date they came with  ... having had a great time over there ... and with many funny "tails" to tell of guys chasing little girl types and getting themselves into well deserved difficulties



You girl chasers are really on a loosing streak



When you can tout serious detailed propositions from locals at the level of General or Senator, get back to me   ac_smile

Quote from: "Shen Li"Of all the Western male expats I met in Asia, the ones that really rubbed me the wrong way were ESLer's. They are the white trash of the expat world. Successful expats like OL would not give those losers the time o day. I know of an expat club in She Kou part of Shenzhen that has one golden rule...NO English teachers are allowed to join. I suspect that Wavy Davy is part of that lower class ESL/small business owner.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where

Quote from: "Obvious Li"CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"Once you have been with women in Asia you really can't go back to white women.

Quote from: "Romero"[

If hiring 1,000+ prostitutes isn't about sex, what could it be about?



It's about being able to control women.

QuoteCanadians and Australians have the worst reputation for causing trouble.....they take the same bad attitude with them there that they exhibit here and it is pretty embarrassing to watch.......drunk, rowdy, loudmouth, low class dorks

Quote from: "Shen Li"You don't know that unless you happen to know men like my Daddy personally. That's a silly accusation to make. I have been in KTV's in China where men in other rooms are bring in girls to pour drinks, dance with them, talk to them, but no sex.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"

Quote from: "Shen Li"You don't know that unless you happen to know men like my Daddy personally. That's a silly accusation to make. I have been in KTV's in China where men in other rooms are bring in girls to pour drinks, dance with them, talk to them, but no sex.

Have experienced those places when with hubby on business. They were initially shy for me to enter, but soon got over it when they saw that I was good fun to party with

Quote from: "Romero"

Quote from: "Obvious Li"and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where

I told ya, folks!



If hiring 1,000+ prostitutes isn't about sex, what could it be about?



It's about being able to control women.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition

Quote from: "Big Wave Dave"Once you have been with women in Asia you really can't go back to white women.

I hate to break this to you two, but Asian prostitutes aren't like Asian women. They're not fawning over you and treating you like wannabe kings because they like you or you deserve it. They're prostitutes. They treat you that way only because of your money. The average Asian woman would want nothing to do with a couple of typical johns.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"

Quote from: "Obvious Li"I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

OL, I don't think all men are this way. I have many men in my family, uncles especially, and cousins. I do not have an uncle who would do this, nor a cousin who would do the same. All the men in my family are devoted to their wives and children and are never apart from them. They all travel together, never apart. They are not perfect but they would never consider paying for sex. They don't spend money like that. In addition, you can only speak for the men you have met and I'm sure you have not met ALL men.

Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"There's been many studies on that. Monogamy is not for all, men and women, studies have shown. It may be abnormal but it is possible.

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Quote from: "Obvious Li"I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

OL, I don't think all men are this way. I have many men in my family, uncles especially, and cousins. I do not have an uncle who would do this, nor a cousin who would do the same. All the men in my family are devoted to their wives and children and are never apart from them. They all travel together, never apart. They are not perfect but they would never consider paying for sex. They don't spend money like that. In addition, you can only speak for the men you have met and I'm sure you have not met ALL men.

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Quote from: "Obvious Li"I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

OL, I don't think all men are this way. I have many men in my family, uncles especially, and cousins. I do not have an uncle who would do this, nor a cousin who would do the same. All the men in my family are devoted to their wives and children and are never apart from them. They all travel together, never apart. They are not perfect but they would never consider paying for sex. They don't spend money like that. In addition, you can only speak for the men you have met and I'm sure you have not met ALL men.

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Quote from: "Obvious Li"I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao

OL, I don't think all men are this way. I have many men in my family, uncles especially, and cousins. I do not have an uncle who would do this, nor a cousin who would do the same. All the men in my family are devoted to their wives and children and are never apart from them. They all travel together, never apart. They are not perfect but they would never consider paying for sex. They don't spend money like that. In addition, you can only speak for the men you have met and I'm sure you have not met ALL men.

Quoteyou are witnessing three entirely predicable phenomenon.....



1. reverse racism.....if i was a black NBA player i would be lauded as a player and cool dude..these chicks would be clamoring for my phone number.



2. insecure female defense mechanisms kicking in.....they look in the mirror and see the slippery slope ....what about my husband???...am i really sure??? am i next ??? maybe the tramp stamp doesn't work ???



3. morality judgement day......people with a twinge of conscience convinced they have found someone whose sin is greater than theirs.......and looking for a stone to cast.....

a clinical study of the human condition

Quote from: "Munday"and i can categorically state i never have infected anyone with anything..not even a cold as far as i know

Quote from: "Romero"There are more posters than just Inked Angel and I in that thread telling Obvious Li he's wrong for what he's done. There are more posters in this thread telling him he's wrong.



Why the heck would we tell him otherwise? He's put lives at risk. Not just a few, but a thousand.

Quote from: "Munday"and i can categorically state i never have infected anyone with anything..not even a cold as far as i know

He needs to be told. He's assuming he has magic protection and hasn't passed along any STDs. I kinda doubt he's checked back with all those sex workers to make sure. Even then, there are the pregnancies. With 1,000+ women there must have been at least a couple of dozen of them.



Of course there's the sex trade itself. Most of these sex workers are trafficked, exploited and abused. Many of his were likely underage. It's not like he ever bothered to check their nonexistent ID.



Haha, you're angry with me for telling him what's wrong is wrong. Too bad! It is wrong. He should at least be using condoms and I think you'd agree.

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LOL, an atheist has proven there is a god .... and it is he

Quote from: "Shen Li"^IA is no better than OL if she is fooling around with a married man while in a relationship. Does she know the sexual history of every woman Sox has been with? Did she ask for the ID's of every woman Sox has ever been with? Do you ask for the ID's of every woman you have been with? How do you know they have never had unprotected sex in the past? How do you know they have never had sex with an underage boy? Some female teachers seem to have a sick fetish for teen boys. How do you know they have never had sex with a boy that has been trafficked? How do you know they have never had sex with a teen girl that has been trafficeked?



What he is doing is not all that different from what people that criticize him are doing. The people that judge have a closet full of skeletons themselves.

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LOL, an atheist has proven there is a god .... and it is he

I admit, I would really have an issue with my man doing that(or having an affair), but the self-righteousness from hypocrites bothers me even more.

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Quote from: "Shen Li"^IA is no better than OL if she is fooling around with a married man while in a relationship. Does she know the sexual history of every woman Sox has been with? Did she ask for the ID's of every woman Sox has ever been with? Do you ask for the ID's of every woman you have been with? How do you know they have never had unprotected sex in the past? How do you know they have never had sex with an underage boy? Some female teachers seem to have a sick fetish for teen boys. How do you know they have never had sex with a boy that has been trafficked? How do you know they have never had sex with a teen girl that has been trafficeked?



What he is doing is not all that different from what people that criticize him are doing. The people that judge have a closet full of skeletons themselves.

She never had sex with Sox.  They have never met face to face.  It was a different guy but she'll deny it because she's a liar.



That's why I keep saying that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Quote from: "Real Woman"She had an online relationship with Socks.  



I think she's being judgmental considering her past.

Quote from: "Real Woman"I'd rather hear people's stories than judge them for telling them.

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Quote from: "Shen Li"^IA is no better than OL if she is fooling around with a married man while in a relationship. Does she know the sexual history of every woman Sox has been with? Did she ask for the ID's of every woman Sox has ever been with? Do you ask for the ID's of every woman you have been with? How do you know they have never had unprotected sex in the past? How do you know they have never had sex with an underage boy? Some female teachers seem to have a sick fetish for teen boys. How do you know they have never had sex with a boy that has been trafficked? How do you know they have never had sex with a teen girl that has been trafficeked?



What he is doing is not all that different from what people that criticize him are doing. The people that judge have a closet full of skeletons themselves.

She never had sex with Sox.  They have never met face to face.  It was a different guy but she'll deny it because she's a liar.



That's why I keep saying that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

OK, OK, I didn't know any of this. I read a post in that thread(and in others) about a relationship she had with someone from the forums and I thought it was Sox.



Anyway, she is being very judgemental when she's not much better herself. Fuck, Fash is not as judgemental as that and she actually does walk the talk.

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Another troll, Bluey. A lousy one too. It could be a fat neglected slob that no one loves who occupies his Momma's basement and sleeping among rodents.

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Another troll, Bluey. A lousy one too. It could be a fat neglected slob that no one loves who occupies his Momma's basement and sleeping among rodents.

Yeah but mommy gives him an allowance so he can pay his $14.99 a month membership fee to his favorite Asian porn site.



So he's got that going for him.  ac_rollseyes

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Another troll, Bluey. A lousy one too. It could be a fat neglected slob that no one loves who occupies his Momma's basement and sleeping among rodents.

Yeah but mommy gives him an allowance so he can pay his $14.99 a month membership fee to his favorite Asian porn site.



So he's got that going for him.  ac_rollseyes

That could be Renee, but I wonder how he knows so much about my city in China? ac_unsure

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Yeah but mommy gives him an allowance so he can pay his $14.99 a month membership fee to his favorite Asian porn site.



So he's got that going for him.  ac_rollseyes

That could be Renee, but I wonder how he knows so much about my city in China? ac_unsure

It's amazing what you can find on the net.



I've said it before; you can travel the world and never lift your ass out of your computer chair.



He is nothing but a fucking troll and a poor one at that. His one dimensional responses are a dead give away.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"lol CC....not trying to pick a fight.....just stating the truth.....i know what i have seen, heard and experienced traveling these many years.......i have no need or desire to justify my lifestyle choices to anyone....we travel in different circles and as always, i stand by what i say...however, i am outta this thread

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Yeah but mommy gives him an allowance so he can pay his $14.99 a month membership fee to his favorite Asian porn site.



So he's got that going for him.  ac_rollseyes

That could be Renee, but I wonder how he knows so much about my city in China? ac_unsure

It's amazing what you can find on the net.



I've said it before; you can travel the world and never lift your ass out of your computer chair.



He is nothing but a fucking troll and a poor one at that. His one dimensional responses are a dead give away.

Quote from: "Real Woman"Romero, can you please provide the source behind your statement of "Most women and girls in the sex trade are working against their will. Trafficked, exploited, abused, beaten, underage, addicted to drugs..." please.

QuoteNational Criminal Justice Reference Service



Once drawn into commercial sex, prostituted persons are at high risk for many kinds of additional trauma. One study found that the vast majority of women and girls trafficked internationally are physically (95%) and sexually (59%) abused while being trafficked (Zimmerman et al., 2008). A U.S. study of nearly 2000 prostituted persons followed over a 30-year period found them to have mortality rates almost 200 times greater than those found among other women with similar demographic profiles (Potterat et al., 2004; see also Spittal et al., 2006). The most common causes of death were, in order: homicide, suicide, drug- and alcohol-related problems, HIV infection, and accidents. The homicide rate among women actively engaged in prostitution was seventeen times greater than the rate for age-matched females in the general population (Potterat et al., 2004). After reviewing the literature and analyzing nine different data sets, Brewer and colleagues (2006) concluded that prostituted women "...have the highest homicide victimization rate of any set of women ever studied."



Numerous studies have found that the majority of prostituted persons become victims of violent crime committed by customers, pimps, and/or traffickers. Surveys in the United States have found 73% to 92% of prostituted women to have been raped while providing commercial sex, and 59% of victims to have been raped more than five times (Farley, 2003; Parriot, 1994; Williamson & Flagon, 2001).



Involvement in prostitution is also linked to a variety of health problems, including tuberculosis, HIV, STDs, anemia, and hepatitis. Rates of infectious disease are from five to 60 times higher among providers of commercial sex than in general populations (Jeal and Salisbury, 2004). In a national survey of U.S. school children, twenty percent of the girls who were prostituted reported that they had had a sexually transmitted infection, compared with four percent of girls in the group who had never exchanged sex for money or drugs (Edwards et al, 2006). The physical traumas resulting from commercial sex often lead to psychological distress, including Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Non-assaultive commercial sex can also be traumatic, especially for underage girls newly involved in prostitution. For example, one study found that 90% of a sample of prostituted women and girls had lost their virginity in an act of commercial sex (Silbert, 1984).



Although some work independently, studies find that up to 80% of samples of women and girls serving as prostitutes had been coerced or forced to engage in prostitution by pimps or traffickers. In a comparison of female prostitutes with pimps to those without, Norton-Hawk (2004) found that pimp-controlled victims of sexual exploitation were more likely to have an inadequate education, to be chronically unemployed, and to have been younger when they first had intercourse, tried drugs, and engaged in prostitution. Women with pimps usually have financial quotas to meet, and are subjected to many forms of manipulation and abuse designed to keep them under control and generating money.



//https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/238796.pdf

Quote from: "Real Woman"I missed that.

Quote from: "Real Woman"I wouldn't sleep with a woman who does that but it's her business, just as it's Munday and Dave's business.



I do find it funny that male prostitutes are such because they want to be but women are just being exploited.



The solution IMHO is brothels with regulations including the use of condoms and STD testing.  No woman held against her will.  Bans to street prostitution and crack downs on pimping outside of bawdy houses.

Quote from: "Shen Li"What? Nobody wants to comment on affluent 40+ year old Western and Japanese chicks who flock to places like Jamaica and Cuba to splurge on the companionship of sexy young third world guys.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Aw. Well, I will miss you



There. Not feeling so sorry for yourself now?



Oh! And when do you get out?

Quote from: "Keeper"first i want to apologize for bombing this thread, I thought about making my own but i didnt want to put this out for everyone to see.



Shit i dont know where to start, Im leaving, ya ya everyone leaves , whatever. I wont be back for an undetermined time and where im going i wont be able to post as it will be a borrowed computer and the powers that be will frown upon miss use of their computers and my brother is house sitting and will be using my lap top for his banking use and to get ahold of me blah blah blah...not that any you fuckers pm me or ask where i am anyway ac_unsure ....dont miss me to much.. ac_rollseyes



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Quote from: "Keeper"Doubt full, i have no use for my personal cell and only have my work phone. When i get settled in i will prolly get a tablet or something, or visit a cafe or something.

Quote from: "Keeper"first i want to apologize for bombing this thread, I thought about making my own but i didnt want to put this out for everyone to see.



Shit i dont know where to start, Im leaving, ya ya everyone leaves , whatever. I wont be back for an undetermined time and where im going i wont be able to post as it will be a borrowed computer and the powers that be will frown upon miss use of their computers and my brother is house sitting and will be using my lap top for his banking use and to get ahold of me blah blah blah...not that any you fuckers pm me or ask where i am anyway ac_unsure ....dont miss me to much.. ac_rollseyes



 :howdy:

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lol @ get out, Im not going to jail CC lol, ya brat.  ac_tongue



Im not sure really, i have been looking for a change and i couldnt pass this opportunity up.

Quote from: "cc li tarte"Ya!! Best to you Keeps. We all love you.

Quote from: "Obvious Li"i better stay out of this as i pretty much said all i wanted to on VF...CC's response is typical of a western white woman who has been to Asia and realized she is completely out of the competition......Asia is hell on white wives carrying a few extra pounds...many come home by themselves.....i have heard it a million times...same refrain ...same people....personally i think it is impossible for someone to comment objectively on this subject unless you have "been there"...and of course women get panicky when they fear/suspect their partner may start looking for something on the side....

for information purposes, i know dozens and dozens of extremely successful, well adjusted, wealthy western guys, well dressed, well groomed, who have many many girlfriends and travel the Asian business circuit......hell we would meet for drinks and fun constantly...these guys would definitely not be considered losers by any measure....i used to party with one Canadian attache who had 15 or 16,  (20 something) girls on the string at any one time.....they finally recalled him when he was 63 because he refused to take another posting...... .Big Dave is right in one thing he says.......once you have dipped your toe in the waters of Asia (so to speak) there is no going back....and believe me it is not just about sex....that you can get any where



I have been around guys all my life..... thousands/millions/billions ???...and i have never met one...not a single one...who ever stated/intimated/declared/or confessed out loud that they were satisfied with their sex life once they were married...not one.....except Homy...but he is registered troll so i don't believe anything he says..... ac_lmfao