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Title: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:37:01 PM
First let me start by saying condolences to the families. Of the kids and the teachers. It is truly heart breaking to return from summer vacation looking forward to the holidays only to have this happen.

May the offender rot in fucking prison and anywhere where pain and suffering is in no short supply for all eternity. No matter what his political leanings were, or even the political leanings of the victims.

If he supports Trump DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.  If he supports Harris DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

if his victims supported Harris my heart breaks for you. If his victims supported Trump my heart breaks for you.

All that shit is inconsequential.

But what is consequential is how do we put an end to this disturbing violence already? 

With the lefttards its Same old, same old mouth breathing hysteria. Blaming guns for a problem while absolving themselves and their anti moral, anti authority, anti yield to a power greater than yourself. They sneer at the almighty, mock him, turn their backs on him, spit on his grace and then wonder why the world continues to devolve.

So is banning guns going to work? Has it worked in Chicago? Baltimore? Memphis? New York? Los Angeles? On so on and so on?

we all know the answer to that so no need to repeat it here.

But what about the decay of our society? the crumbling of basic morality? The removal of God from the lives of the most impressionable? The very kids walking into schools committing these senseless massacres. What about the violence they are inundated with on a minute by minute basis through gaming consoles, movies, vidoes, tiktoks and other unimaginable vices being propagated throughout our society? Purposely I reckon.

We've been a 2nd Amendment nation for centuries now. And automatic weapons are nothing new. But these trends in our entertainment and moral values are. Perhaps this is where the reasonable of mind would turn to first when attempting to address this problem? In the technology world theres and old adage - when something breaks start with whatever was changed or introduced last.

And so that is exactly where my troubleshooting of our woes begins

otherwise you may end up with a society that has no legal access to guns, a healthy and thriving black market where these same weapons will be purchases instead -- bringing along with it even MORE senseless killings as the criminal element vies for greater influence and control over the market as a whole.

I know libtards wont hear me, because they WANT my position to be a blind allegiance to gun rights when in fact, if I possessed a sense of certainty that banning all weapons would safe but ONE life I would jump on that wagon faster than a rabbit gets fucked. Because I am in no way arrogant enough to believe that single life could never be one that I cherish.

 The simple fact is, I don't believe it will save lives. Not a single one. Because when there is a will there is a way. My reasons are both sound and difficult to refute given the overwhelming evidence, historical sampling and current trends in areas where guns are indeed banned at the state level.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Trump’s Niece on September 05, 2024, 06:38:06 PM
It's a killer tranny
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: Erica Mena on September 05, 2024, 06:38:06 PMIt's a killer tranny
Really? I didn't see that.

Admong will be on high alert to defend him from scrutiny
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Trump’s Niece on September 05, 2024, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:40:48 PMReally? I didn't see that.

Admong will be on high alert to defend him from scrutiny


He already started lol
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Erica Mena on September 05, 2024, 06:49:32 PMHe already started lol
He's gotta defend those trannies if he's ever gonna get to a point where he can legally solicit a woman for time share based usage of her young daughter as sex toy.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 06, 2024, 09:08:18 AM
Its gotten to the point where only 4 dead is considered to be "light casualties".  Four people were also shot and killed in a subway car in Chicago, but that didn't make the national news.  Go figure.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Frood on September 06, 2024, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 06, 2024, 09:08:18 AMIts gotten to the point where only 4 dead is considered to be "light casualties".  Four people were also shot and killed in a subway car in Chicago, but that didn't make the national news.  Go figure.

The younger ones are extra juicy. It's like added MSG makes the media salivate and order.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 10:43:22 AM
100% of America's civil liberties, freedoms, rights, and most importantly, government power coming from the people are based upon the authority from God.

To the gaytheist, this is hokum and they believe rights come from government. IMO, this is treason to our freedoms and form of government.

Our founders stated that our government is only workable for a moral and Godly society. It would stand to reason that once we are anti-Godly for long enough, the Declaration of Independence (our single founding document), Constitution, and Bill of Rights, must be declared null and void. Once this happens, the danger of gaytheism will be fully realized.

Fight to the death and never disarm.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Frood on September 06, 2024, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 10:43:22 AM100% of America's civil liberties, freedoms, rights, and most importantly, government power coming from the people are based upon the authority from God.

To the gaytheist, this is hokum and they believe rights come from government. IMO, this is treason to our freedoms and form of government.

Our founders stated that our government is only workable for a moral and Godly society. It would stand to reason that once we are anti-Godly for long enough, the Declaration of Independence (our single founding document), Constitution, and Bill of Rights, must be declared null and void. Once this happens, the danger of gaytheism will be fully realized.

Fight to the death and never disarm.

I don't give a shit about where your ethics or morals derive from and neither should you. Find peace with anybody that even partially shares those with you, or the US is Venezuelan fucked.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Frood on September 06, 2024, 10:57:52 AMI don't give a shit about where your ethics or morals derive from and neither should you. Find peace with anybody that even partially shares those with you, or the US is Venezuelan fucked.

God given inalienable rights is the entire lynchpin of our form of government. I DO give a shit because its importance cannot be over estimated.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Frood on September 06, 2024, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:12:37 AMGod given inalienable rights is the entire lynchpin of our form of government. I DO give a shit because its importance cannot be over estimated.

If you're looking for perfection, you'll only be able to blow away yourself.

Pants down around your ankles, hips up, and arse 2 feet up a wall.

Do better.

Interact regularly with people of different backgrounds before you invoke the 2nd Amendment on them. You may just find that you can actually convert them... if you don't spank your monkey too much.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: Frood on September 06, 2024, 11:18:40 AMIf you're looking for perfection, you'll only be able to blow away yourself.

Pants down around your ankles, hips up, and arse 2 feet up a wall.

Do better.

Interact regularly with people of different backgrounds before you invoke the 2nd Amendment on them. You may just find that you can actually convert them... if you don't spank your monkey too much.

Or, they can stay the fuck away from me and never have to see the end of my barrel. Anyone who isnt smart enough to recognize the importance of rights coming from God is an idiot and should slither away to some dumb assed crown country where rights come and go at the whim of a governmental body.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Frood on September 06, 2024, 11:31:49 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:23:35 AMOr, they can stay the fuck away from me and never have to see the end of my barrel. Anyone who isnt smart enough to recognize the importance of rights coming from God is an idiot and should slither away to some dumb assed crown country where rights come and go at the whim of a governmental body.

Your sort will be the first to go after the great conflagration. You don't tolerate people and most people won't tolerate your bullshit either.

There's a blackness in your heart and despite everything you've said about God and rights, I don't reckon you have much core belief in either.

Just a gun/Rambo fetish... aka ego driven Christian false narrative.

BUT, I could be completely off base and if I am, I sincerely apologize to you.

Namaste
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: Frood on September 06, 2024, 11:31:49 AMYour sort will be the first to go after the great conflagration. You don't tolerate people and most people won't tolerate your bullshit either.

There's a blackness in your heart and despite everything you've said about God and rights, I don't reckon you have much core belief in either.

Just a gun/Rambo fetish... aka ego driven Christian false narrative.

BUT, I could be completely off base and if I am, I sincerely apologize to you.

Namaste

It's all good.

I know the blackness of mans heart and the foolishness of allowing mankind to make the rules.

In the coming conflagration, disease is most likely to take me. I've been very transparent that much of my gun buying has been for my childrens future security and benefit, although I have bought certain, specific items to defend my home while I live.

Returning this country to Godly morality is its only hope. That wont happen tho.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Frood on September 06, 2024, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 11:47:34 AMIt's all good.

I know the blackness of mans heart and the foolishness of allowing mankind to make the rules.

In the coming conflagration, disease is most likely to take me. I've been very transparent that much of my gun buying has been for my childrens future security and benefit, although I have bought certain, specific items to defend my home while I live.

Returning this country to Godly morality is its only hope. That wont happen tho.

I've try to teach my youngest about fire, shelter, orientation, and evasion principles.

But I'm upfront with her. If a chopper or jet pings her flir signature from a distance, she's probably dead already. Hide in holes at night and only move if the temps feel comparable to her own body temps in the day.

Yeah, I've taught her way more than that but if she can't get past the first part, nothing else really matters.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Aryan on September 06, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
From what I gather, a troon is behind the shooting (again)... 

Prowler has posted some stats about tranny sex offenders over on BF which is gonna get the leftoids wailing.  :crampe:
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 06, 2024, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 06, 2024, 09:48:08 AMThe younger ones are extra juicy. It's like added MSG makes the media salivate and order.

BA-DUM-TSSHHH!!
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Frood on September 06, 2024, 12:11:09 PMI've try to teach my youngest about fire, shelter, orientation, and evasion principles.

But I'm upfront with her. If a chopper or jet pings her flir signature from a distance, she's probably dead already. Hide in holes at night and only move if the temps feel comparable to her own body temps in the day.

Yeah, I've taught her way more than that but if she can't get past the first part, nothing else really matters.

https://youtu.be/Pdy0uxaJl0E

This guy always has great survival tips.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Herman on September 06, 2024, 09:05:47 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:37:01 PMFirst let me start by saying condolences to the families. Of the kids and the teachers. It is truly heart breaking to return from summer vacation looking forward to the holidays only to have this happen.

May the offender rot in fucking prison and anywhere where pain and suffering is in no short supply for all eternity. No matter what his political leanings were, or even the political leanings of the victims.

If he supports Trump DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.  If he supports Harris DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

if his victims supported Harris my heart breaks for you. If his victims supported Trump my heart breaks for you.

All that shit is inconsequential.

But what is consequential is how do we put an end to this disturbing violence already? 

With the lefttards its Same old, same old mouth breathing hysteria. Blaming guns for a problem while absolving themselves and their anti moral, anti authority, anti yield to a power greater than yourself. They sneer at the almighty, mock him, turn their backs on him, spit on his grace and then wonder why the world continues to devolve.

So is banning guns going to work? Has it worked in Chicago? Baltimore? Memphis? New York? Los Angeles? On so on and so on?

we all know the answer to that so no need to repeat it here.

But what about the decay of our society? the crumbling of basic morality? The removal of God from the lives of the most impressionable? The very kids walking into schools committing these senseless massacres. What about the violence they are inundated with on a minute by minute basis through gaming consoles, movies, vidoes, tiktoks and other unimaginable vices being propagated throughout our society? Purposely I reckon.

We've been a 2nd Amendment nation for centuries now. And automatic weapons are nothing new. But these trends in our entertainment and moral values are. Perhaps this is where the reasonable of mind would turn to first when attempting to address this problem? In the technology world theres and old adage - when something breaks start with whatever was changed or introduced last.

And so that is exactly where my troubleshooting of our woes begins

otherwise you may end up with a society that has no legal access to guns, a healthy and thriving black market where these same weapons will be purchases instead -- bringing along with it even MORE senseless killings as the criminal element vies for greater influence and control over the market as a whole.

I know libtards wont hear me, because they WANT my position to be a blind allegiance to gun rights when in fact, if I possessed a sense of certainty that banning all weapons would safe but ONE life I would jump on that wagon faster than a rabbit gets fucked. Because I am in no way arrogant enough to believe that single life could never be one that I cherish.

 The simple fact is, I don't believe it will save lives. Not a single one. Because when there is a will there is a way. My reasons are both sound and difficult to refute given the overwhelming evidence, historical sampling and current trends in areas where guns are indeed banned at the state level.
Americans tried prohibition once with booze. We all know how that turned out. It will be same with guns.

Americans want em and they will get em. Laws be damned.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 06, 2024, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: Herman on September 06, 2024, 09:05:47 PMAmericans tried prohibition once with booze. We all know how that turned out. It will be same with guns.

Americans want em and they will get em. Laws be damned.

I sure AF didnt register any of mine even tho they passed a law here. Fuk em!
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 06, 2024, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 06, 2024, 09:08:18 AMIts gotten to the point where only 4 dead is considered to be "light casualties".  Four people were also shot and killed in a subway car in Chicago, but that didn't make the national news.  Go figure.

That's because the Chicago shooter is a negro transexual.  Went nuts and shot four people who were sleeping on the train dead in two different train cars, then casually got off at the next stop and hopped on to another train going the other way.  The local news spotlighted the shooters mom who said the kid was going through hard times and had recently lost his/her homosexual lover in yet another of Chicago's random shootings over the summer.

Absolutely nothing about the four murdered folks who were just catching a catnap on their ways home.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 06, 2024, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 06, 2024, 11:36:56 PMThat's because the Chicago shooter is a negro transexual.  Went nuts and shot four people who were sleeping on the train dead, then casually got off at the next stop and hopped on to another train going the other way.  The local news spotlighted the shooters mom who said the kid was going through hard times and had recently lost his/her homosexual lover in yet another of Chicago's random shootings over the summer.

Absolutely nothing about the four murdered folks who were just catching a catnap on their ways home.

it's almost as if you guys could use some strict gun control laws over there
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Reggie Essent on September 06, 2024, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 06, 2024, 11:39:00 PMit's almost as if you guys could use some strict gun control laws over there

I'm sayin'!   Even the nigger tannies are packing heat these days.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Logic Sandwich on September 07, 2024, 02:02:15 AM
For the OP (along with anyone that cared to actually read it with the spirit in which it was doubtless offered) and particularly any left wing, pearl clutching Karens that wish to discuss the second amendment...

First and foremost... "DON'T".

There's a few good reasons why you shouldn't. Starting with the bleeding obvious one that it's not the guns at fault here, any more than it's the cars fault for the road toll. And I don't see anyone here advocating for making cars illegal, just because a few drivers lost control and wiped out little Jimmy at a pedestrian crossing.

And before you try to argue motor vehicles are "different" because they are "useful", allow me to point out that so are firearms. Quite useful, considering the wait time you have between needing to stop a clear and present threat and the state-sponsored authorities to ride in to your rescue. If indeed they do at all.

Also, do not waste anyone's time attempting to argue that it's only *some* firearms you think need removing from the hands of all. Because once those are off the table, we all know exactly what the argument will be. That's right... "oh, these other ones need to go too". To which I say "bullshit". Repeating weapons were available at the time the second amendment was drafted, so there goes any argument you might make about semi-auto rifles not being imagined by the founding fathers. Who, if truth be known, also had no problem with people owning punt guns and cannon.

The 2A was written explicitly so the "well regulated militia" of the day could go and buy any or all of these if they had the means to do so, and any law forbidding or limiting their ownership runs counter to the Bruen decision of 2022. You are being anti-constitutional and in breach of federal law if you try. You and your neighbour have the constitutional right to own and operate any of the families of weapons mentioned above, indeed I have heard the case argued that tactical thermonuclear devices fall under the umbrella... and here you are, arguing against sporting rifles that no self respecting military would waste their time with.

Wake up. The only defense you legally have is to own your own firearms and be proficient in their care and use. Go against Bruen and all you are doing is removing the weapons from the hands of the law abiding, leaving a vast swathe of arms in the community operated by criminals and provably slow and ill-equipped government agents that are never around when you need their protection. The vast preponderance of gun crime is happening in the very neighbourhoods that flout the 2A. Had these areas not succumbed to the lie of it "being safer", your average criminals would either be thinking twice about pulling their piece or have long since edited themselves out of the gene pool.

None of this is up for debate; the wailing from certain government officials and their media mouthpieces is aimed at weakening you. When you are weak, they and anyone else not adhering to your idea of a peaceful and civilised Utopia can ride roughshod over you... just like it happens in so-called other civilised countries where guns are already severely restricted, if not outright illegal.

You want to stop situations like the one that led to this thread? You need to address the root cause that led to the shooter picking up a gun and going batshit nuts in the first place. Reach out with compassion and understanding, dial back the incessant argy-bargy.

And buy yourself a weapon or three. Get to understand them, how they work and how to look after them. Like you would a car.

I did... and I can't stand the damned things. But I see the sense in them, even if you do not.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 07, 2024, 07:53:53 AM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on September 06, 2024, 11:36:56 PMThat's because the Chicago shooter is a negro transexual.  Went nuts and shot four people who were sleeping on the train dead in two different train cars, then casually got off at the next stop and hopped on to another train going the other way.  The local news spotlighted the shooters mom who said the kid was going through hard times and had recently lost his/her homosexual lover in yet another of Chicago's random shootings over the summer.

Absolutely nothing about the four murdered folks who were just catching a catnap on their ways home.

Shameful that the narrative immediately went to the default position of mental health issues being the cause.  Something tells me the idiot won't wind up getting life without parole.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 07, 2024, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Logic Sandwich on September 07, 2024, 02:02:15 AMFor the OP (along with anyone that cared to actually read it with the spirit in which it was doubtless offered) and particularly any left wing, pearl clutching Karens that wish to discuss the second amendment...

First and foremost... "DON'T".

There's a few good reasons why you shouldn't. Starting with the bleeding obvious one that it's not the guns at fault here, any more than it's the cars fault for the road toll. And I don't see anyone here advocating for making cars illegal, just because a few drivers lost control and wiped out little Jimmy at a pedestrian crossing.

And before you try to argue motor vehicles are "different" because they are "useful", allow me to point out that so are firearms. Quite useful, considering the wait time you have between needing to stop a clear and present threat and the state-sponsored authorities to ride in to your rescue. If indeed they do at all.

Also, do not waste anyone's time attempting to argue that it's only *some* firearms you think need removing from the hands of all. Because once those are off the table, we all know exactly what the argument will be. That's right... "oh, these other ones need to go too". To which I say "bullshit". Repeating weapons were available at the time the second amendment was drafted, so there goes any argument you might make about semi-auto rifles not being imagined by the founding fathers. Who, if truth be known, also had no problem with people owning punt guns and cannon.

The 2A was written explicitly so the "well regulated militia" of the day could go and buy any or all of these if they had the means to do so, and any law forbidding or limiting their ownership runs counter to the Bruen decision of 2022. You are being anti-constitutional and in breach of federal law if you try. You and your neighbour have the constitutional right to own and operate any of the families of weapons mentioned above, indeed I have heard the case argued that tactical thermonuclear devices fall under the umbrella... and here you are, arguing against sporting rifles that no self respecting military would waste their time with.

Wake up. The only defense you legally have is to own your own firearms and be proficient in their care and use. Go against Bruen and all you are doing is removing the weapons from the hands of the law abiding, leaving a vast swathe of arms in the community operated by criminals and provably slow and ill-equipped government agents that are never around when you need their protection. The vast preponderance of gun crime is happening in the very neighbourhoods that flout the 2A. Had these areas not succumbed to the lie of it "being safer", your average criminals would either be thinking twice about pulling their piece or have long since edited themselves out of the gene pool.

None of this is up for debate; the wailing from certain government officials and their media mouthpieces is aimed at weakening you. When you are weak, they and anyone else not adhering to your idea of a peaceful and civilised Utopia can ride roughshod over you... just like it happens in so-called other civilised countries where guns are already severely restricted, if not outright illegal.

You want to stop situations like the one that led to this thread? You need to address the root cause that led to the shooter picking up a gun and going batshit nuts in the first place. Reach out with compassion and understanding, dial back the incessant argy-bargy.

And buy yourself a weapon or three. Get to understand them, how they work and how to look after them. Like you would a car.

I did... and I can't stand the damned things. But I see the sense in them, even if you do not.

Exactly this! Banning guns due to school shootings is tantamount to banning cars when some sloppy drunk gets behind the wheel and mows into a few cars on the free or some racist lunatic charges his truck into a crowd of children during a holiday parade. To the cheering and applause and affirmative nod by animals like that fat creature from the blue cesspool, Oak I might add.

And to your point of slow acting defunded and demoralized law enforcement who in many cases is outright ordered to stand down one need only look at what's happening in Colorado for a glimpse into the future the leftist vermin scum are trying to build. An environment where the criminal element is armed to the teeth while law enforcement (if they exist at all) are hamstrung to the point of complete uselessness.

I don't know about you but I am convinced these mass shootings are some kind of covert and deliberate syopp being embedded into the minds of a vulnerable cross section of our society though video games, tiktok, recreational drugs and a swath of other anti moralizing elements which no one on the left, conveniently, wants to talk about.

and you have to wonder why that is.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Oliver the Second on September 07, 2024, 11:07:48 AM

Father of US school shooting suspect charged with murder

The father of a 14-year-old boy accused of killing four people at a high school in the US state of Georgia has been arrested and charged with murder.

Colin Gray, 54, is facing four charges of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.

Officials said on Thursday evening the charges were directly connected to his son's actions and "allowing him to possess a weapon".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wj0vyl8xko
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: formosan on September 07, 2024, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 05, 2024, 06:37:01 PMFirst let me start by saying condolences to the families. Of the kids and the teachers. It is truly heart breaking to return from summer vacation looking forward to the holidays only to have this happen.

May the offender rot in fucking prison and anywhere where pain and suffering is in no short supply for all eternity. No matter what his political leanings were, or even the political leanings of the victims.

If he supports Trump DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.  If he supports Harris DIE SLOW YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

if his victims supported Harris my heart breaks for you. If his victims supported Trump my heart breaks for you.

All that shit is inconsequential.

But what is consequential is how do we put an end to this disturbing violence already? 

With the lefttards its Same old, same old mouth breathing hysteria. Blaming guns for a problem while absolving themselves and their anti moral, anti authority, anti yield to a power greater than yourself. They sneer at the almighty, mock him, turn their backs on him, spit on his grace and then wonder why the world continues to devolve.

So is banning guns going to work? Has it worked in Chicago? Baltimore? Memphis? New York? Los Angeles? On so on and so on?

we all know the answer to that so no need to repeat it here.

But what about the decay of our society? the crumbling of basic morality? The removal of God from the lives of the most impressionable? The very kids walking into schools committing these senseless massacres. What about the violence they are inundated with on a minute by minute basis through gaming consoles, movies, vidoes, tiktoks and other unimaginable vices being propagated throughout our society? Purposely I reckon.

We've been a 2nd Amendment nation for centuries now. And automatic weapons are nothing new. But these trends in our entertainment and moral values are. Perhaps this is where the reasonable of mind would turn to first when attempting to address this problem? In the technology world theres and old adage - when something breaks start with whatever was changed or introduced last.

And so that is exactly where my troubleshooting of our woes begins

otherwise you may end up with a society that has no legal access to guns, a healthy and thriving black market where these same weapons will be purchases instead -- bringing along with it even MORE senseless killings as the criminal element vies for greater influence and control over the market as a whole.

I know libtards wont hear me, because they WANT my position to be a blind allegiance to gun rights when in fact, if I possessed a sense of certainty that banning all weapons would safe but ONE life I would jump on that wagon faster than a rabbit gets fucked. Because I am in no way arrogant enough to believe that single life could never be one that I cherish.

 The simple fact is, I don't believe it will save lives. Not a single one. Because when there is a will there is a way. My reasons are both sound and difficult to refute given the overwhelming evidence, historical sampling and current trends in areas where guns are indeed banned at the state level.
I didn't know about this Biggie......I only watch local news now.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 07, 2024, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 07, 2024, 11:07:48 AMFather of US school shooting suspect charged with murder

The father of a 14-year-old boy accused of killing four people at a high school in the US state of Georgia has been arrested and charged with murder.

Colin Gray, 54, is facing four charges of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.

Officials said on Thursday evening the charges were directly connected to his son's actions and "allowing him to possess a weapon".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wj0vyl8xko

The father is culpable in my opinion. While I would normally be against one party baring the consequence of another's action, in this instance the kid had already been visited by the police for previous threats and that alone should have prompted the father to take precautionary steps to make sure his son had no accessibility to the weapons

Involuntary manslaughter and/or negligent homicide are very appropriate charges in this circumstance
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: caskur on September 07, 2024, 05:25:37 PM
Because today we have a serious drug problem with mental patients on the loose, guns are a problem for me but when the guns are removed, the drug fucked use knives.

If the drug problem can be solved then crime will be drastically reduced imo including irrational mass shootings.

I can't wait to see Trump get in and fix the border problem and clean up the drug trade somewhat.

I feel sorry for anyone shot by a lunatic but the gun is the last to be blamed.

I blame all of us for not encouraging taking a hard-line approach on druggies and I realise people say that won't work... I say bullshit.

If I was President I would have drug prisons and make every druggie learn to weave baskets to pay for their way in prison..

If you fall off the wagon when you are realised from prison then it would be back inside to basket weaving again... if you fall off the wagon a second time it will be firing squad at dawn...

I am deadly serious.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lab Flaker on September 07, 2024, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 06, 2024, 11:39:00 PMit's almost as if you guys could use some strict gun control laws over there

I remember when I was a kid in Primary School (Elementary) back in South Africa in the early 80's, and the terrorists were on the rampage indiscriminately shooting men, women and children. The solution was to arm all the teachers with firearms.

The principal and vice principal of the school actually wore their guns in holsters visibly on the hip, as a means of deterrence. And this was the norm across the entire nation at most schools.


Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Oliver the Second on September 07, 2024, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 07, 2024, 12:23:24 PM...should have prompted the father to take precautionary steps to make sure his son had no accessibility to the weapons



Turns out the father gave the kid the gun as a Christmas gift -

https://www.tmz.com/2024/09/05/georgia-school-shooting-suspect-gun-christmas-present-dad/
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 07, 2024, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 07, 2024, 09:09:14 PMTurns out the father gave the kid the gun as a Christmas gift -

https://www.tmz.com/2024/09/05/georgia-school-shooting-suspect-gun-christmas-present-dad/

Buy your 14yo a bolt action .22LR, NOT an AR!
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on September 08, 2024, 01:02:44 PM
Coming this Xmas season is the new Lil Patriot Cruise Missile Launcher.  Buy your kid the ability to take out an entire block and show much of 2nd Amendment supporter you are.  God bless America.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: hard Я on September 09, 2024, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 07, 2024, 10:34:14 AMExactly this! Banning guns due to school shootings is tantamount to banning cars when some sloppy drunk gets behind the wheel and mows into a few cars on the free or some racist lunatic charges his truck into a crowd of children during a holiday parade. To the cheering and applause and affirmative nod by animals like that fat creature from the blue cesspool, Oak I might add.

And to your point of slow acting defunded and demoralized law enforcement who in many cases is outright ordered to stand down one need only look at what's happening in Colorado for a glimpse into the future the leftist vermin scum are trying to build. An environment where the criminal element is armed to the teeth while law enforcement (if they exist at all) are hamstrung to the point of complete uselessness.

I don't know about you but I am convinced these mass shootings are some kind of covert and deliberate syopp being embedded into the minds of a vulnerable cross section of our society though video games, tiktok, recreational drugs and a swath of other anti moralizing elements which no one on the left, conveniently, wants to talk about.

and you have to wonder why that is.
I know exactly why it is; it's the hallmark of an authoritarian government wishing to weaken and enslave its population. Sure, they'll tell you it's about "making the streets safer", but the point Caskur makes at the bottom of page two is a valid one: remove lawful access to firearms and knives will take their place. Proof of this? Britain-stan, where it has been successfully legislated that any bladed "weapon" is illegal to have on your person. Even butter knives, as retarded as that sounds.

Not that it's slowed the instance of stabbings over that way, though I have noticed a marked increase of arrests of people that draw people's attention to this unpleasant outcome. Because it's a hate crime there to even refer to the statistic, being that the overwhelming preponderance of these crimes are being waged by illegal migrants who, as far as the government are concerned, are a class of people in need of their protection.. The law abiding locals that do NOT own guns and who leave their cutlery in the kitchen drawer.... not so much.

And just so we are clear, the authoritarian upswing in Britain-stan has escalated to the point where they are now seeking to extradite people that discuss this. The reason being that they have deemed it hate speech... and if you happen to be in an area whose government thinks it's politically expedient to gulag its citizens for so much as wandering the halls of its capitol "out of season", I don't think it's a stretch to say you could very easily find yourself the proud owner of an express flight to that delightful little shithole where tens of thousands of underaged girls can be raped by pakistanis annually and the only people to see prison time are the ones that are pointing this out.

This is what safety looks like? Mate, I'll take the guns and knives option every time, thank you. The second amendment was written in the way it was by people who saw a need for citizens to protect themselves from aggressors, both foreign AND domestic. This includes the aggressors that gain access to the levers of power over  We the People, along with anyone foolish enough to fight We the People on the aforementioned aggressors part.

And there are certainly more of those than there should be. They should be on our side, fighting the threat shoulder to shoulder with us. Because if history has taught us anything, the aggressor is never satisfied and will take more and more liberties over its population as time goes on. Even from its own supporters.

We saw it in the marriage of business and state in Nazi Germany.

We saw it in the marriage of business and state in Mussolini's Italy.

We are seeing it now in the marriage of business and state under Biden/Harris's America. As well as the EU, UK, Canada, Australia... the list goes on.

Fight it. It's the one enemy we all share.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 10, 2024, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: hard Я on September 09, 2024, 12:21:42 AMI know exactly why it is; it's the hallmark of an authoritarian government wishing to weaken and enslave its population. Sure, they'll tell you it's about "making the streets safer", but the point Caskur makes at the bottom of page two is a valid one: remove lawful access to firearms and knives will take their place. Proof of this? Britain-stan, where it has been successfully legislated that any bladed "weapon" is illegal to have on your person. Even butter knives, as retarded as that sounds.

Not that it's slowed the instance of stabbings over that way, though I have noticed a marked increase of arrests of people that draw people's attention to this unpleasant outcome. Because it's a hate crime there to even refer to the statistic, being that the overwhelming preponderance of these crimes are being waged by illegal migrants who, as far as the government are concerned, are a class of people in need of their protection.. The law abiding locals that do NOT own guns and who leave their cutlery in the kitchen drawer.... not so much.

And just so we are clear, the authoritarian upswing in Britain-stan has escalated to the point where they are now seeking to extradite people that discuss this. The reason being that they have deemed it hate speech... and if you happen to be in an area whose government thinks it's politically expedient to gulag its citizens for so much as wandering the halls of its capitol "out of season", I don't think it's a stretch to say you could very easily find yourself the proud owner of an express flight to that delightful little shithole where tens of thousands of underaged girls can be raped by pakistanis annually and the only people to see prison time are the ones that are pointing this out.

This is what safety looks like? Mate, I'll take the guns and knives option every time, thank you. The second amendment was written in the way it was by people who saw a need for citizens to protect themselves from aggressors, both foreign AND domestic. This includes the aggressors that gain access to the levers of power over  We the People, along with anyone foolish enough to fight We the People on the aforementioned aggressors part.

And there are certainly more of those than there should be. They should be on our side, fighting the threat shoulder to shoulder with us. Because if history has taught us anything, the aggressor is never satisfied and will take more and more liberties over its population as time goes on. Even from its own supporters.

We saw it in the marriage of business and state in Nazi Germany.

We saw it in the marriage of business and state in Mussolini's Italy.

We are seeing it now in the marriage of business and state under Biden/Harris's America. As well as the EU, UK, Canada, Australia... the list goes on.

Fight it. It's the one enemy we all share.

Gotta disagree slightly one a single point. Removing lawful access to firearms will only inspire the criminal element to fill the void and ensure that people who are law abiding citizens and want to remain law abiding citizens will have no ability to defend themselves should the need arise.

and that is more than likely the point of the whole exercise when you consider the obvious desire by SOMEONE to decay the fabric of this country from the inside out.

But I digress

But when's the last time you've imagined a maniac hell bent on committing multiple premeditated homicides stop short and think to himself "I cannot buy that gun in that in that flimsy storefront pretending to a grocery store because that would be illegal". I'm pretty sure you haven't. And that is because you are sane and the proposition is ludicrous on it's face.

But time and time again libtards prove they aren't sane and lack the ability to think things through all the way to their foregone conclusion. Mass shooting happen everyday on the streets of baltimore & Chicago as I am sure both avatar_Reggie Essent and L can attest,   and are being committed more often than not by convicted felons who have long ago lost the right to purchase a firearm by any lawful means. So how are they obtaining them?

This is of course, a factor of the overall argument they do not want to discuss in any capacity whatsoever. Why? because doing so will bring them to the cold hard reality that banning the lawful purchase of firearms will not stop these mass shootings just like they haven't in the cities I mentioned above and many others throughout the country which are under similarly strict gun mandates.

having this argument might just bring them closer to the most obvious of facts which they do not wish to acknowledge on any level. On a moral level our society is in rapid decline and these mass shootings are simply one consequence of said decline.

So instead of banning guns entirely perhaps we, as a society, need to get to the root of the problem.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 10, 2024, 01:59:00 PM
Libtards tend to be more outlandish in their thought process while conservatives tend to be more pragmatic and intellectually fluid in their approach to problem solving

Libtards are famous for capturing the 0.001% of cases where a particular argument doesn't apply and use it to justify discounting the entirety of the argument all together, while at the same time offering no counter solution to address the problem being discussed. they prefer problems to exist in perpetuity. You don't believe me? then tell me why Roe was never codified during two administrations which had partisan control over all levels of government.

This flaw in their reasoning, if you can even label it reasoning at this point, is most clearly evidenced when discussing Trump's border wall which Mexico didn't pay for nor should have.

Libtards will proudly display a meme of the steel fence erected some 25ft high depicting a young, healthy and determined illegal with proper tools scaling it with relative ease and use that to justify telling you walls don't work.

Never once attempting to be intellectually honest by showing you the 5000 women, children and other members of the tribe who are, for one reason or another, incapable of performing the same impressive feat. Yes, walls are ineffective at preventing 0.001% of the migrants. True indeed. But so are 4 digit bank card ATM pins at preventing some nefarious individual from draining your bank account. They have been overcome, guessed, brute-forced and otherwise compromised a multitude of times

would you feel comfortable with a banking institution that offered you an ATM card without one? 
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Brent on September 10, 2024, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 10, 2024, 01:59:00 PMLibtards tend to be more outlandish in their thought process while conservatives tend to be more pragmatic and intellectually fluid in their approach to problem solving

Libtards are famous for capturing the 0.001% of cases where a particular argument doesn't apply and use it to justify discounting the entirety of the argument all together, while at the same time offering no counter solution to address the problem being discussed. they prefer problems to exist in perpetuity. You don't believe me? then tell me why Roe was never codified during two administrations which had partisan control over all levels of government.

This flaw in their reasoning, if you can even label it reasoning at this point, is most clearly evidenced when discussing Trump's border wall which Mexico didn't pay for nor should have.

Libtards will proudly display a meme of the steel fence erected some 25ft high depicting a young, healthy and determined illegal with proper tools scaling it with relative ease and use that to justify telling you walls don't work.

Never once attempting to be intellectually honest by showing you the 5000 women, children and other members of the tribe who are, for one reason or another, incapable of performing the same impressive feat. Yes, walls are ineffective at preventing 0.001% of the migrants. True indeed. But so are 4 digit bank card ATM pins at preventing some nefarious individual from draining your bank account. They have been overcome, guessed, brute-forced and otherwise compromised a multitude of times

would you feel comfortable with a banking institution that offered you an ATM card without one?
Post of the week. :good:
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: hard Я on September 11, 2024, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 10, 2024, 01:34:32 PMGotta disagree slightly one a single point. Removing lawful access to firearms will only inspire the criminal element to fill the void and ensure that people who are law abiding citizens and want to remain law abiding citizens will have no ability to defend themselves should the need arise.

and that is more than likely the point of the whole exercise when you consider the obvious desire by SOMEONE to decay the fabric of this country from the inside out.
That is precisely the point and your can see its parallel playing out in England where knives are illegal, yet stabbings are on the rise. You are in fact making my point for me, there is in fact no disagreement to be had.

Something more odious to consider; I see plenty of proud US gun owners on this board, what do you imagine you become in the eyes of the law when your arsenal is deemed illegal and you refuse to turn your weaponry in to the authorities? Do you imagine for one moment said authorities will be satisfied with the excuse that you lost them in the last fishing trip? I've a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you do.

No. You will find out exactly what "differential enforcement" means. Some Illinois resident like Lokmar will be made the scapegoat for all that is wrong in Chicongo and be harassed and prosecuted endlessly by leftie politicians and their supporters "because gun crime" while black gangs barely get slapped on the wrist.

That is it is being played in England right now. Machete wielding migrants are being left to do their thing, but if you're white and the proud owner of a pocket knife (or indeed anything considered "illegal"). then you, an otherwise law abiding citizen, are in fact the criminal and the state gets to kick your door in and take your your shit. English law enforcement are now bullying children as young as five, along with their families, all the while turning a blind eye to the invading "refugees" of other nations in the name of "diversity" and "protection".

This is what is at our gates. I don't like it and I don't expect you would either. We are all of us being governed for someone else's profit and far too many of us are invested in "doing the right thing" and "not giving the 'them' a reason to bring the banhammer down on our asses" to realise that these terrorists do not need any reason to wage this war on us, other than we are letting them wage it.

This is the root of the problem. All other things being equal, in a time of conflict the day is carried by the side that is prepared to do what the other is not. We are faced with an opposing force that does not regard us worthy of any rights whatsoever. The presumption that we will continue to take the high moral ground and prevail against these Vandals is being used against us and to our cost.

We need to fix that. Doing what we are used to doing isn't achieving that end.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 12, 2024, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: hard Я on September 11, 2024, 05:36:20 PMThat is precisely the point and your can see its parallel playing out in England where knives are illegal, yet stabbings are on the rise. You are in fact making my point for me, there is in fact no disagreement to be had.

Something more odious to consider; I see plenty of proud US gun owners on this board, what do you imagine you become in the eyes of the law when your arsenal is deemed illegal and you refuse to turn your weaponry in to the authorities? Do you imagine for one moment said authorities will be satisfied with the excuse that you lost them in the last fishing trip? I've a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you do.

No. You will find out exactly what "differential enforcement" means. Some Illinois resident like Lokmar will be made the scapegoat for all that is wrong in Chicongo and be harassed and prosecuted endlessly by leftie politicians and their supporters "because gun crime" while black gangs barely get slapped on the wrist.

That is it is being played in England right now. Machete wielding migrants are being left to do their thing, but if you're white and the proud owner of a pocket knife (or indeed anything considered "illegal"). then you, an otherwise law abiding citizen, are in fact the criminal and the state gets to kick your door in and take your your shit. English law enforcement are now bullying children as young as five, along with their families, all the while turning a blind eye to the invading "refugees" of other nations in the name of "diversity" and "protection".

This is what is at our gates. I don't like it and I don't expect you would either. We are all of us being governed for someone else's profit and far too many of us are invested in "doing the right thing" and "not giving the 'them' a reason to bring the banhammer down on our asses" to realise that these terrorists do not need any reason to wage this war on us, other than we are letting them wage it.

This is the root of the problem. All other things being equal, in a time of conflict the day is carried by the side that is prepared to do what the other is not. We are faced with an opposing force that does not regard us worthy of any rights whatsoever. The presumption that we will continue to take the high moral ground and prevail against these Vandals is being used against us and to our cost.

We need to fix that. Doing what we are used to doing isn't achieving that end.


Imagine tomorrow a country where these rodents are successful. They remove every gun store in America and confiscate every gun out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country. leaving them defenseless and at the mercy of whatever element, criminal or government who wishes to exploit them

The next school shooting down the road, were it to be verifiably traced back to an illegally obtained AR-15 smuggled in across our porous southern border these self righteous ass bags like Pig and Admin wouldn't say a fucking word. They wouldn't suddenly turn their attention to the problem of illegal imports which have filled the void once occupied by small American businesses because THAT would run contrary to the narrative these talking heads are instructed to adhere to.

These vermin cockroaches don't give a fuck about the kids. The kids are nothing more than props to the tear jerking narrative they are attempting to put up on display just to get their way. Because if they did care you'd be seeing just as much outrage and righteous condemnation for all the young lives lost daily at the hands of convicted felons who aren't obtaining their guns legally on the streets of Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, LA and many other blue areas across the country

*spits -- disgusting vermin cockroaches, every last one of them pontificating rodent pieces of shit
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Lokmar on September 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
These days, weapons are for overthrowing our despotic government.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: hard Я on September 13, 2024, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 12, 2024, 07:33:03 PMImagine tomorrow a country where these rodents are successful. They remove every gun store in America and confiscate every gun out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country. leaving them defenseless and at the mercy of whatever element, criminal or government who wishes to exploit them

The next school shooting down the road, were it to be verifiably traced back to an illegally obtained AR-15 smuggled in across our porous southern border these self righteous ass bags like Pig and Admin wouldn't say a fucking word. They wouldn't suddenly turn their attention to the problem of illegal imports which have filled the void once occupied by small American businesses because THAT would run contrary to the narrative these talking heads are instructed to adhere to.

These vermin cockroaches don't give a fuck about the kids. The kids are nothing more than props to the tear jerking narrative they are attempting to put up on display just to get their way. Because if they did care you'd be seeing just as much outrage and righteous condemnation for all the young lives lost daily at the hands of convicted felons who aren't obtaining their guns legally on the streets of Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, LA and many other blue areas across the country

*spits -- disgusting vermin cockroaches, every last one of them pontificating rodent pieces of shit
I don't have to imagine it, I've already seen it. Caskur, Frood, Breaky... they live in one such example. Scouse, Reaper, Cookie.... they live in another. And it's not a problem exclusive to the provisioning of self defence either, it has been applied to a good many other facets of those societies besides.

And you're right; those wailing "think of the children" are not "acting for the children", therefore it can safely be concluded they don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut when it comes to "the children". We know this because existing legislation that provides "for the children" is forever being added to and expanded with no tangible results for "the children", thereby inviting further ineffective legislation and regulation in the name of "the children". And we are supposed to care because they pretend to. That's how it "works".

People cheer for this shit, you know. They'll also be the first to call you a cunt and worse when you don't fall into line with their pathetic little masturbatory fantasies that the latest boilerplate red tape being chimped piously over is somehow going to magically solve everything when everything like it that has gone before has only served to curb the individual's right to self determination.

With all that said, I do "think of the children" when entreated to. I think of all the times before where I was invited to by people who subsequently failed utterly to have any positive effect for them. And I turn my back on the mewling congressional muffcabbage and search for someone that is not spouting empty platitudes to prop up the content of their pitch.
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 13, 2024, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: hard Я on September 13, 2024, 06:03:11 PMI don't have to imagine it, I've already seen it. Caskur, Frood, Breaky... they live in one such example. Scouse, Reaper, Cookie.... they live in another. And it's not a problem exclusive to the provisioning of self defence either, it has been applied to a good many other facets of those societies besides.

And you're right; those wailing "think of the children" are not "acting for the children", therefore it can safely be concluded they don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut when it comes to "the children". We know this because existing legislation that provides "for the children" is forever being added to and expanded with no tangible results for "the children", thereby inviting further ineffective legislation and regulation in the name of "the children". And we are supposed to care because they pretend to. That's how it "works".

People cheer for this shit, you know. They'll also be the first to call you a cunt and worse when you don't fall into line with their pathetic little masturbatory fantasies that the latest boilerplate red tape being chimped piously over is somehow going to magically solve everything when everything like it that has gone before has only served to curb the individual's right to self determination.

With all that said, I do "think of the children" when entreated to. I think of all the times before where I was invited to by people who subsequently failed utterly to have any positive effect for them. And I turn my back on the mewling congressional muffcabbage and search for someone that is not spouting empty platitudes to prop up the content of their pitch.

Exactly. These people don't give the first fuck about "the children". In addition to all we've pointed out thus far there have been some 30 million abortions, many of which were late term where the baby was viable, in the U.S since roe was first decided.

Now don't get me wrong here, contrary to my conservative brethren I am 100% in support of some libtard cunt offing her offspring at the first available opportunity. One less degenerate fucking cockroach to compete with my bloodline in the voting booths. I am A okay with that. Provide state funded abortions as an aside to fucking happy meals at drive thru windows in your own toilet states to your heart's content. But don't be so violently in support of such barbarism and then try to pontificate to me about my gun ownership being the reason some kids in a school somewhere lost their lives at the hands of some mentally ill psychopath indoctrinated with the violence you happily promulgate on every media platform available . 

The day libtards are prepared to have a realistic conversation devoid of the bullshit soundbites which is aimed at addressing the ALL Of the problems contributing to these massacres I'd be happy to have it. But until then they can take their short sighted and tunnel visioned ideas, solutions and tear jerking stories and shove them right up their asses. No sale here. 
Title: Re: 2 adults & 2 children in Georgia are dead lets have the discussion
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 14, 2024, 09:09:09 AM
Oh, and just as an inconvenient little side note to the leftist vermin cocksuckers claiming that it is a lack of a weapons ban causing these massacres because they insist on pretending that they care about "teh children"

why haven't any of them expressed outrage at the fact that dear old Kamoron stated publicy, right there in the debate they are gloating over, that she and Tim walz are gun owners and she's not taking "anyone's" guns

anyones guns. with no qualifiers that suggest she was speaking specifically to AR-15s

so apparently, getting a zinger on Trump during a debate overshadows this phony "care" they have for "teh children"

hypocrite scum