Moderator - would you support a preemptive strike from Israel on Iran
Walz - Orange Man is bad. He is really bad. People are saying he's bad. You should think he is bad too
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:18:51 PMModerator - would you support a preemptive strike from Israel on Iran
Walz - Orange Man is bad. He is really bad. People are saying he's bad. You should think he is bad too
The frickin lies out of that clown.
VANCE just buried him :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe:
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:22:18 PMVANCE just buried him :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe:
Vance is very presidential looking.
Vance is performing better than Trump did!
Tampon Tim is already Flustered! :crampe:
I like how Vance responded to the NBC fact check.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Walz is turning fucking colors :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe:
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:32:40 PMHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Walz is turning fucking colors :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe: :crampe:
Ya, he is. :crampe:
Hahahahahahahaha Vance aint letting the moderators pull their bullshit!
They tried that fact checking bullshit and Vance shoved it up their asses to the point where they had to run scared
Governor Walz, you said you were in Hong Kong during Tianamen, but you were not. How do you explain?
He said everything except answer the question.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:41:53 PMThey tried that fact checking bullshit and Vance shoved it up their asses to the point where they had to run scared
That was superb.
I hope that wanker Joe doesn't post in this thread. But, he will.
Project 2025 again. :facepalm:
This guy is a fucking idiot
You can get an abortion at 7 months here. Wtf
Quote from: Erica Mena on October 01, 2024, 09:49:45 PMThis guy is a fucking idiot
You can get an abortion at 7 months here. Wtf
I turn down the volume when abortion is the subject.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 09:51:16 PMI turn down the volume when abortion is the subject.
Democrats are so dedicated to killing children. It's pretty dark and sickening
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:53:32 PMDemocrats are so dedicated to killing children. It's pretty dark and sickening
Make all abortions legal in the first trimester and be done with it.
hahahahahahahahahaha Walz totally dodged when asked if he supports an abortion on the 9th month
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:58:36 PMhahahahahahahahahaha Walz totally dodged when asked if he supports an abortion on the 9th month
I had the volume turned down, but I assume the moderators let him dodge the question.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 10:03:37 PMI had the volume turned down, but I assume the moderators let him dodge the question.
they did try to pin him down but he slithered out it once again
Vance crucified him on his own Law :crampe: :crampe: :crampe:
and he couldn't say anything but "that's knot troooooooooo"
so Vance asked him "what is true"
and walz goes into prefabbed soundbites
he got wrecked :crampe:
So pulling the statue here's what basically happened
What the Minnesota law passed under Walz did
In May 2023, the Minnesota Legislature passed and Walz signed an update to a state law for "infants who are born alive". Previously, state law said, "All reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice, including the compilation of appropriate medical records, shall be taken by the responsible medical personnel to preserve the life and health of the born alive infant."
The law was updated to instead say medical personnel must "care for the infant who is born alive".
Care for the infant is very vague and could basically mean anything from keep the room the dying infant is in warm to actually provide life saving measures.
So yeah what walz did was to dilute the protections on babies born alive making it easier for sleezy doctors and sleazy lawyers commit murder with no consequence
The moderators asked Vance what proof do you have that mass illegal immigration is contributing to the housing crisis? Is that cunt for real. We got the same problem in Canada because Justine opened the floodgates.
I want Vance to be President now lol
Quote from: Erica Mena on October 01, 2024, 10:39:48 PMI want Vance to be President now lol
Me too kid. I like that fella.
Vance is full of integrity and class.
That he is.
He totally stripped walz of the ability to dive into the mud which is where he wanted to be
The only kudos I will give to walz is that he managed to pick up on the fact that Vance intended to take the high road early and did not fully make himself look like a total asshole by constantly trying to goad him into his taking his original intent.
This debate turned out better than the presidential one
on both sides. Walz performed better than Kamoron and Vance performed better than trump.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 10:53:48 PMHe totally stripped walz of the ability to dive into the mud which is where he wanted to be
The only kudos I will give to walz is that he managed to pick up on the fact that Vance intended to take the high road early and did not fully make himself look like a total asshole by constantly trying to goad him into his taking his original intent.
This debate turned out better than the presidential one
on both sides. Walz performed better than Kamoron and Vance performed better than trump.
The presidential debate was a frickin joke. Three on one.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 10:53:48 PMHe totally stripped walz of the ability to dive into the mud which is where he wanted to be
The only kudos I will give to walz is that he managed to pick up on the fact that Vance intended to take the high road early and did not fully make himself look like a total asshole by constantly trying to goad him into his taking his original intent.
This debate turned out better than the presidential one
on both sides. Walz performed better than Kamoron and Vance performed better than trump.
Vance took too much high road and should have refuted the bigger lies of Walz's.
Or at least pulled faces when Walz said them.
Quote from: Frood on October 01, 2024, 11:15:39 PMVance took too much high road and should have refuted the bigger lies of Walz's.
Or at least pulled faces when Walz said them.
that will certainly agree with.
I think he would have gutted Walz if walz would have took the load road with all that stupid couch stuff.
Quote from: Frood on October 01, 2024, 11:15:39 PMVance took too much high road and should have refuted the bigger lies of Walz's.
Or at least pulled faces when Walz said them.
Vance has the lowest likability rating of all four of them on the two tickets. His goal was to make himself likable and he accomplished his mission.
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2024, 09:18:51 PMModerator - would you support a preemptive strike from Israel on Iran
Walz - Orange Man is bad. He is really bad. People are saying he's bad. You should think he is bad too
Yep, we were screaming at the TV about him never answering the question.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 09:42:58 PMGovernor Walz, you said you were in Hong Kong during Tianamen, but you were not. How do you explain?
He said everything except answer the question.
KABOOM!
Quote from: Erica Mena on October 01, 2024, 10:39:48 PMI want Vance to be President now lol
Patience. He will be.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 11:18:16 PMVance has the lowest likability rating of all four of them on the two tickets. His goal was to make himself likable and he accomplished his mission.
I don't like him any more or any less. He's smooth, I'll give him that... often the silver tongued let you down, so I'll reserve judgement of Vance until he's performing as VP.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 09:25:26 PMVance is very presidential looking.
Vance for all his admitted flaws is PERFECT... omg... I wished his mamaw was alive to see him now.
I just finished watching the debate. Vance was cool calm and collected, whilst Walz tried as best as he possibly could, but failing dismally.
Vance looked straight into the camera or in the moderators direction when addressing the nation. He even did so when Walz was talking utter shit. Walz fumbled badly on most points, and even had to constantly refer to his notes during Vance's questioning.
We mostly saw the top of Walz's bald head and comb-over when he wasn't whining and spinning lies.
But Vance wouldn't engage the lies directly... a tactic, probably, but if you're going to be Trump's running mate, you have to be willing to get your cunty on when required...
Pence was much the same, then he plunged the knife in at the end.
This is my problem with Vance... he's moreso campaigning for a 2028 presidential run than backing up his guy.
I'll give Vance a chance but my gut says he very well may be a non-gay variant of Pence.
Quote from: caskur on October 02, 2024, 02:16:41 AMVance for all his admitted flaws is PERFECT... omg... I wished his mamaw was alive to see him now.
You could see him being commander in chief.
Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2024, 11:18:16 PMVance has the lowest likability rating of all four of them on the two tickets. His goal was to make himself likable and he accomplished his mission.
Tim Walz has called JD Vance weird. Which is weird. He had a strategy last night, and it worked.
Politico is calling the debate dead even though Walz couldn't answer the opening question, abortion in the ninth month or he didn't seem aware there are under occupied federal buildings on federal lands in Minneapolis-St Paul.
Quote from: DKG on October 02, 2024, 07:12:04 AMPolitico is calling the debate dead even though Walz couldn't answer the opening question, abortion in the ninth month or he didn't seem aware there are under occupied federal buildings on federal lands in Minneapolis-St Paul.
Don't forget his claims that 140 officials were harmed during the Jan 6th protests and that Trump started an insurrection.
I loved the way Vance brilliantly tethered Harris to the 4 years of utter failure and would not let up. Referring to the current administration as the "harris administration"
that did two things.
1) completely wipe Biden off the map in terms of legacy and relevancy (which actually might be a good thing for him).
2) tied all of the failures around her neck like a fucking albatross that walz was never able to climb out of
How do you say you are going to do something on day one which you have not done in the last 3.5 years?
and the Moderators never realized how they walked Walz right into that trap by mentioning the fact that the VP is often the last person in the room when important decisions are made. Thus solidifying how complicit harris was with what has happened over the last 3.5 years. And this is aside from the fact that she had the deciding vote in a split senate.
This was a worst case scenario for democrats as Vance was able to hammer home POLICY POLICY POLICY and strip Walz of his ability to mudsling.
Bravo Vance. You did exceptionally well.
Libs seem quiet today so Vance must have won.
a lot of vermin on the left are dragging Walz for his performance last night
It appears they are lining him up as as scapegoat for the inevitable failure their party will experience in Nov.
I hate democrats and I dislike this man for a variety of reasons, But I am not prepared to do that to him. Harris' deplorable record over the last 4 years in the second highest office in the land and decades in varied roles before that are not Walz's fault and I don't think even the smoothest of talkers could debate their way out of that.
Accept this fact you low life vermin animals. You prepped this man for weeks to ""Needle"" Vance hoping to score both an un-level playing field with the moderators and some kind of negative reaction out of Vance. He didn't bite and stripped you of your game plan within the first 5 minutes of the debate. The high road was a masterstroke of genius!
In fact, I'm on record as giving Walz his due kudos for being as astute as he was realizing immediately the gig was up and pivoting accordingly. That was wise of him. Because I'll tell you right now, once Vance showed the compassionate side of himself by apologizing about Walz's son it was going to be a blood bath for Walz if he dared to go down the needling route. And to his credit, he was smart enough to see that.
He should be applauded by you people instead of scapegoated. The man did the best anyone could with such utter and obvious failure.
Despite his myriad of flaws and being a vermin leftist cockroach I respect him today far more than I did before the debate and he's miles ahead of Kamala in my mind.
And another thing.
Walz came across, at least to me, as a genuinely decent but totally misguided soul. I sensed his heart is in the right place but his mind is not. I got the impression he really wants to do the right thing, he just doesn't know what the right thing is. I could be wrong but that's the impression I was left with
Now while that would never earn my vote I can at least have respect for the man.
Whereas Kamala is a deplorable rotten witch of a degenerate opportunistic cockroach who will do anything to get ahead. No matter whom she hurts in the process.
Vance won, Walz lost. But Walz put up and honorable fight and even enemies can show respect.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uGh5nufhVG0
Even progtard pollsters are showing the race in battleground states as tied or Trump slightly ahead. If Harris loses I would not out it past the sleazy Democrats to throw Walz under the bus.
Quote from: Brent on October 02, 2024, 01:53:59 PMEven progtard pollsters are showing the race in battleground states as tied or Trump slightly ahead. If Harris loses I would not out it past the sleazy Democrats to throw Walz under the bus.
They always eat their own. THat is how people with no soul or conscience operate by default.
You see it in every aspect of life where they exist.
Just in the smaller context of these very forums I've often told my fellow conservatives to deprive the vermin filth at BF the conservative voice to dogpile and watch as it won't be long before they begin to feast on each other.
Seen it a thousand times
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 02, 2024, 01:56:42 PMThey always eat their own. THat is how people with no soul or conscience operate by default.
You see it in every aspect of life where they exist.
Just in the smaller context of these very forums I've often told my fellow conservatives to deprive the vermin filth at BF the conservative voice to dogpile and watch as it won't be long before they begin to feast on each other.
Seen it a thousand times
You see it with RFK and Tulsi Gabbard.
Even progtard talking heads were unable to deny the caliber of Trump's running mate.
Despite efforts by the CBS News moderators to help Walz and hinder Vance, it quickly became clear even to prog talking heads that the Democratic governor was grossly outmatched.
In response to Van Jones calling Vance "slick, slick, slick" after the debate, fellow CNN panelist David Urban said, "Ten out of ten for JD Vance. Ten strike. ... He landed a lot of good punches, but he did so with an iron fist in a velvet glove. He was very smooth. He was likeable. He looked presidential."
New York Times columnist Ross Douthat noted that the debate revealed why Vance was a great choice of running mate for Trump, stressing that the Ohio senator delivered "one of the best debating performances by a Republican nominee for president or vice president in recent memory and making a case for Trump's record far more effectively than Trump has ever been capable of doing."
"You've got a tough job here. You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did," Vance said during the debate.
"You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did," continued the senator. "And then you've got to defend Kamala Harris' atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens."
Like I predicted. Vance mopped the floor with the idiot
Vivek nails it
but Kamoron will never agree to this as she won't be able to stack the odds in her favor
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CqBQd2Q0glY
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 02, 2024, 01:52:15 PMAnd another thing.
Walz came across, at least to me, as a genuinely decent but totally misguided soul. I sensed his heart is in the right place but his mind is not. I got the impression he really wants to do the right thing, he just doesn't know what the right thing is. I could be wrong but that's the impression I was left with
Now while that would never earn my vote I can at least have respect for the man.
Whereas Kamala is a deplorable rotten witch of a degenerate opportunistic cockroach who will do anything to get ahead. No matter whom she hurts in the process.
Vance won, Walz lost. But Walz put up and honorable fight and even enemies can show respect.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uGh5nufhVG0
I was just telling my husband this a few minutes ago
Yep.. just as I predicted
the vermin lefttard cockroaches have already started throwing walz under a bus.
Good gosh.. these people can NEVER accept accountability for their own actions. Their faults always have to be the doing of another.
Walz lost because he could not articulate the policies of someone who has no policies. Once Vance stripped him of his ability to jump in the mud it was over for the guy. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that.
Yeah poor guy. I feel bad for him
I watched the debate from start to finish. It was so much easier to watch than Trump and Harris. Vance was as polished as a Marine's boots.
Quote from: DKG on October 02, 2024, 07:12:04 AMPolitico is calling the debate dead even though Walz couldn't answer the opening question, abortion in the ninth month or he didn't seem aware there are under occupied federal buildings on federal lands in Minneapolis-St Paul.
NBC talked with 'undecided' voters after the debate. They all said Walz convinced them to vote for Kameltoe. :crampe:
Quote from: Herman on October 02, 2024, 09:56:37 PMNBC talked with 'undecided' voters after the debate. They all said Walz convinced them to vote for Kameltoe. :crampe:
LOL! What a load of hot bullshit!
Quote from: Lokmar on October 02, 2024, 10:02:54 PMLOL! What a load of hot bullshit!
They were shitty actors.
Vance is a man of his word.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/jd-vance-evidence-immigrants-housing-prices-vp-debate?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%20PM%20Premium%20Test%202024-10-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM&tpcc=email-premiumtest
Vance posted evidence on Wednesday proving that he was correct when connecting the migrant crisis to rising housing prices during the VP debate.
While discussing inflation and the rising cost of housing, Gov. Tim Walz argued that immigrants shouldn't be blamed for the growing problem of out-of-control housing costs and housing inventory issues.
Vance agreed and said he knows exactly where blame belongs: at the feet of Vice President Kamala Harris.
"We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices. But we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim. Twenty-five million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris' leadership," Vance said.
"We have a lot of Americans that need homes. We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes, and we should be building more homes for the American citizens who deserve to be here," he added.
The debate moderators — Norah O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan — then gave Walz an opportunity to respond to Vance's accusation.
To no surprise, Walz claimed it is "not true," before complaining that Vance did not receive a fact-check. So what did the moderators do? They proceeded to fact-check Vance.
"Senator, on that point, I'd like for you to clarify. There are many contributing factors to high housing costs. What evidence do you have that migrants are part of this problem?" Brennan asked Vance.
Vance immediately cited remarks from the Federal Reserve, promising to post the receipts on social media when the debate concluded. The study, he explained, "really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration, and higher housing prices."
After the debate, Vance made good on his promise, posting comments on X from Michelle W. Bowman, a member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.
In May, Bowman spoke at the Massachusetts Bankers Association Annual Convention in Key Biscayne, Florida, where she said the "inflow of new immigrants" puts "upward pressure" on the housing market.
Speaking on the state of the economy, Bowman explained:
Finally, there is a risk that strong consumer demand for services, increased immigration, and continued labor market tightness could lead to persistently high core services inflation. Given the current low inventory of affordable housing, the inflow of new immigrants to some geographic areas could result in upward pressure on rents, as additional housing supply may take time to materialize.
The Dallas Fed, moreover, has drawn the same conclusion.
"Higher immigration represents a labor supply shock, which should be disinflationary. But immigrants are also consumers and add to aggregate demand. While certain sectors that extensively depend on immigrants should see costs and prices fall—for example, landscaping and child care—the population influx could put upward pressure on rents and house prices, particularly in the short run before new supply can be built," the Dallas Fed explained in July.
"As promised," Vance said on X.
Female netizens in this part of the world like JD Vance. They say he is handsome and charismatic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjjIKB94uKM
Quote from: Shen Li on October 02, 2024, 11:56:18 PMFemale netizens in this part of the world like JD Vance. They say he is handsome and charismatic.
He is pretty fine
Quote from: DKG on October 02, 2024, 06:57:48 AMYou could see him being commander in chief.
Yes, no worries if Trump died and he could step up to replace him.
Very smart guy with an excellent work ethic... Kamala is a lazy sloth.... who makes me angrier by the minute.
Quote from: caskur on October 03, 2024, 10:13:23 AMYes, no worries if Trump died and he could step up to replace him.
Very smart guy with an excellent work ethic... Kamala is a lazy sloth.... who makes me angrier by the minute.
An exceptional work ethic. Harris , on the other hand is an opportunistic politician for sale. Just like Biden.
Quote from: Erica Mena on October 03, 2024, 09:38:24 AMHe is pretty fine
JD Vance is a very handsome man.....he has gorgeous eyes.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 02, 2024, 10:02:54 PMLOL! What a load of hot bullshit!
It's not even spin, it is all lies they don't believe themselves.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 02, 2024, 11:56:18 PMFemale netizens in this part of the world like JD Vance. They say he is handsome and charismatic.
He likes his women BROWN, not yellow!!!!
If it's brown, Vance is down.
If it's yellow, Vance is mellow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SN4XKhUtyM
Quote from: Herman on October 04, 2024, 08:38:28 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SN4XKhUtyM
Awww, poor little babies. They need to hold onto their binky.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 03, 2024, 09:02:10 PMHe likes his women BROWN, not yellow!!!!
He's still a racist if you ask white libtards.
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on October 04, 2024, 08:48:24 PMAwww, poor little babies. They need to hold onto their binky.
I think Vance won the debate, tho not decisively in the sense that he was trying to deliver a knockout blow
Actually, his goal was to appear more likeable
The debate did not have near the acrimony that the Biden-Trump or Biden-Harris debates had
Actually I just thought they wee trying to get along with each other
My impression of Walz is that he did not want to, and tried very hard to avoid making personal attacks on Vance or offending him, which he could have rather easily
For example, Walz refrained from calling Vance 'weird' nor did he make any reference to that 'Childless Cat ladies' remark.
I thought Walz's deliver was extremely halting, apprehensive and my impression of him was more like:
"Holy shit, if we win this thing, it's quite likely we'll have to work with this guy to get anything passed! As it stands now our party looks to lose control of the Senate and maybe we won't win the House either! Better be nice to this guy, cuz we'll have to work with this guy later on should we get elected."
They probably remember how Obama offended Mitch McConnel & how he later didn't listen to anything they did and moreover thwarted any future legislation they were tying to pass.
Quote from: JOE on October 04, 2024, 11:44:26 PMI think Vance won the debate, tho not decisively in the sense that he was trying to deliver a knockout blow
Actually, his goal was to appear more likeable
The debate did not have near the acrimony that the Biden-Trump or Biden-Harris debates had
Actually I just thought they wee trying to get along with each other
My impression of Walz is that he did not want to, and tried very hard to avoid making personal attacks on Vance or offending him, which he could have rather easily
For example, Walz refrained from calling Vance 'weird' nor did he make any reference to that 'Childless Cat ladies' remark.
I thought Walz's deliver was extremely halting, apprehensive and my impression of him was more like:
"Holy shit, if we win this thing, it's quite likely we'll have to work with this guy to get anything passed! As it stands now our party looks to lose control of the Senate and maybe we won't win the House either! Better be nice to this guy, cuz we'll have to work with this guy later on should we get elected."
They probably remember how Obama offended Mitch McConnel & how he later didn't listen to anything they did and moreover thwarted any future legislation they were tying to pass.
Wow, helluva analysis. I thought from the news vids I saw was that Walz was a perfect visual of deer-in-headlights.
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on October 05, 2024, 10:19:01 AMWow, helluva analysis. I thought from the news vids I saw was that Walz was a perfect visual of deer-in-headlights.
I was thinking more along the lines of Benny Hill on really bad acid.
Quote from: smartass on October 05, 2024, 08:29:04 PMI was thinking more along the lines of Benny Hill on really bad acid.
^^^^Post of the week! :s_laugh: :s_laugh: :s_laugh: