One of the worst atrocities in Canadian history is not well known or taught and is rarely discussed.
For 80 years, between 1869 and 1948, 100,000 children were brought into Canada from the British Isles. Many of these children were taken away from their parents against their parents' will, put into large institutions or work houses in Britain and then sold and shipped to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
They were part of an immigration scheme under the promoted illusion that they were all orphans going to a better life.
Prejudice at the time by the governments of both Britain and Canada perpetrated the myth that the children were dirty, diseased and little more than garbage.
Several agencies, including Barnardo's and Maria Rye, were selling the children as indentured labourers to farmers and households across Canada. Bernardo's alone brought in 35,000 children, mostly to Ontario.
Many children died and were buried in unmarked graves. Many others committed suicide. If a child ran away from a farm, the police would catch them and send them back.
Households in Canada paid $3 per child. It was a big money-making scheme. It was human trafficking.
Money went to agencies and governments. Then the trafficked children were forced to pay for their passage to Canada when they reached adulthood. Many weren't paid for their work but if they were, it was one cent a day.
Despite all the hardship, a good many of the children grew up and were accomplished. More than 25,000 Home Children fought in the First and Second World Wars. Some survivors were decorated soldiers.
Descendants of Home Children include Ontario Premier Doug Ford and hockey media legend Don Cherry. Both their grandfathers were Home Children.
There is an estimated four million Canadian descendants of Home Children living in Canada. Many people don't know that they are among them.
Britain and Australia have issued apologies, but Canada has not.
There are only two surviving Home Children in Canada, one is 109 years old and living in Vancouver and the other is 101 and living in Ontario.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 15, 2024, 11:11:06 PMOne of the worst atrocities in Canadian history is not well known or taught and is rarely discussed.
For 80 years, between 1869 and 1948, 100,000 children were brought into Canada from the British Isles. Many of these children were taken away from their parents against their parents' will, put into large institutions or work houses in Britain and then sold and shipped to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
They were part of an immigration scheme under the promoted illusion that they were all orphans going to a better life.
Prejudice at the time by the governments of both Britain and Canada perpetrated the myth that the children were dirty, diseased and little more than garbage.
Several agencies, including Barnardo's and Maria Rye, were selling the children as indentured labourers to farmers and households across Canada. Bernardo's alone brought in 35,000 children, mostly to Ontario.
Many children died and were buried in unmarked graves. Many others committed suicide. If a child ran away from a farm, the police would catch them and send them back.
Households in Canada paid $3 per child. It was a big money-making scheme. It was human trafficking.
Money went to agencies and governments. Then the trafficked children were forced to pay for their passage to Canada when they reached adulthood. Many weren't paid for their work but if they were, it was one cent a day.
Despite all the hardship, a good many of the children grew up and were accomplished. More than 25,000 Home Children fought in the First and Second World Wars. Some survivors were decorated soldiers.
Descendants of Home Children include Ontario Premier Doug Ford and hockey media legend Don Cherry. Both their grandfathers were Home Children.
There is an estimated four million Canadian descendants of Home Children living in Canada. Many people don't know that they are among them.
Britain and Australia have issued apologies, but Canada has not.
There are only two surviving Home Children in Canada, one is 109 years old and living in Vancouver and the other is 101 and living in Ontario.
Interesting. Very sad too.
But, but, but....
The British Empire kept the international peace, you ungrateful bastards!
I'm shaking my Union Jack in anger!
Quote from: Shen Li on October 15, 2024, 11:11:06 PMOne of the worst atrocities in Canadian history is not well known or taught and is rarely discussed.
For 80 years, between 1869 and 1948, 100,000 children were brought into Canada from the British Isles. Many of these children were taken away from their parents against their parents' will, put into large institutions or work houses in Britain and then sold and shipped to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
They were part of an immigration scheme under the promoted illusion that they were all orphans going to a better life.
Prejudice at the time by the governments of both Britain and Canada perpetrated the myth that the children were dirty, diseased and little more than garbage.
Several agencies, including Barnardo's and Maria Rye, were selling the children as indentured labourers to farmers and households across Canada. Bernardo's alone brought in 35,000 children, mostly to Ontario.
Many children died and were buried in unmarked graves. Many others committed suicide. If a child ran away from a farm, the police would catch them and send them back.
Households in Canada paid $3 per child. It was a big money-making scheme. It was human trafficking.
Money went to agencies and governments. Then the trafficked children were forced to pay for their passage to Canada when they reached adulthood. Many weren't paid for their work but if they were, it was one cent a day.
Despite all the hardship, a good many of the children grew up and were accomplished. More than 25,000 Home Children fought in the First and Second World Wars. Some survivors were decorated soldiers.
Descendants of Home Children include Ontario Premier Doug Ford and hockey media legend Don Cherry. Both their grandfathers were Home Children.
There is an estimated four million Canadian descendants of Home Children living in Canada. Many people don't know that they are among them.
Britain and Australia have issued apologies, but Canada has not.
There are only two surviving Home Children in Canada, one is 109 years old and living in Vancouver and the other is 101 and living in Ontario.
Holy shit.
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on October 16, 2024, 04:20:28 PMBut, but, but....
The British Empire kept the international peace, you ungrateful bastards!
I'm shaking my Union Jack in anger!
They used their colonies and former colonies as dumping grounds.
What they did was send children (white slaves) to work in convents.
I read one story of a girl sent to a convent in Australia to do WW2 soldiers laundry. She never got paid. It was hard labour.
In real life I knew two men, one was from England and the other from Malta.
The guy from Malta got a payout from the Catholic church only about $4.5 thousand... basically not much at all.
The English guy went back to the UK became a builder and did well for himself. He was the youngest of 3 boys... he was the only one sent. When he was back in the UK PAINTING his mother's bathroom she was on a stool watching and he asked her 'why was I sent to Australia' and his mum just stood up and walked off. SHE wouldn't tell him why.
During the WW 1 & 2 All Efforts like the best food and clothes and arms went to the men... women were the land army doing all the men's jobs in factories and farms... men got steak... their families at home got offal... and rations.
The American blacks always go on about slavery but more UK KIDS were made into slaves than blacks ever were...
RIGHT up until 1975 children (babies) were forcibly taken off unmarried mothers in Australia... in New Zealand pregnant unmarried women were jailed and their babies taken off them.
The abortion laws in the USA bother me because I foresee a whole new generation of exploited unwanted children in the future.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 16, 2024, 11:54:45 PMThey used their colonies and former colonies as dumping grounds.
Germans used gas ovens. They used the colonies to keep the kids away from the wars and getting bombs dropped on their heads.
When WW 3 starts, what do you think is going to happen to children then?
Quote from: caskur on October 18, 2024, 07:57:43 PMGermans used gas ovens. They used the colonies to keep the kids away from the wars and getting bombs dropped on their heads.
When WW 3 starts, what do you think is going to happen to children then?
They wanted them out of Britain because they were considered a problem.
Quote from: caskur on October 18, 2024, 04:51:07 PMWhat they did was send children (white slaves) to work in convents.
I read one story of a girl sent to a convent in Australia to do WW2 soldiers laundry. She never got paid. It was hard labour.
In real life I knew two men, one was from England and the other from Malta.
The guy from Malta got a payout from the Catholic church only about $4.5 thousand... basically not much at all.
The English guy went back to the UK became a builder and did well for himself. He was the youngest of 3 boys... he was the only one sent. When he was back in the UK PAINTING his mother's bathroom she was on a stool watching and he asked her 'why was I sent to Australia' and his mum just stood up and walked off. SHE wouldn't tell him why.
During the WW 1 & 2 All Efforts like the best food and clothes and arms went to the men... women were the land army doing all the men's jobs in factories and farms... men got steak... their families at home got offal... and rations.
The American blacks always go on about slavery but more UK KIDS were made into slaves than blacks ever were...
RIGHT up until 1975 children (babies) were forcibly taken off unmarried mothers in Australia... in New Zealand pregnant unmarried women were jailed and their babies taken off them.
The abortion laws in the USA bother me because I foresee a whole new generation of exploited unwanted children in future.
A lot in Canada were sold as indentured servants usually to farmers.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 18, 2024, 10:51:26 PMThey wanted them out of Britain because they were considered a problem.
And I explained the problem...
The UK has never been able to support their poor.
My husband went there in 1970 and no one could afford to eat meat for instance. He found someone's weekly meat that was left at a bus stop accidentally, chased the woman down to return it to her. He said she was practically on her knees in gratitude.
Of course children were a burden... they weren't made to have one... they had many... there wasn't any birth control like today.
See, the history of the UK is very stark and the fact your generation doesn't know this says a lot about our education systems.
You should read Jane Eyre and Oliver Twist for starters..
Quote from: Shen Li on October 18, 2024, 10:55:56 PMA lot in Canada were sold as indentured servants usually to farmers.
In Australia it was paradise... people came here and never wanted to return and today, still don't however some do return only to come back again.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 18, 2024, 10:51:26 PMThey wanted them out of Britain because they were considered a problem.
A lot of European colonial powers did that. Export their less productive citizens to their current/former colonies.
The mass of people only started getting educated in Germany in 1890s. Only the rich males got an education before that time... maybe a few royal ladies too.
Germany lead the way in social reform lead by Bismarck...
While people were being educated in Germany they were still pushing 3 year olds up chimneys to clean them in the UK.
The UK as far as I am concerned would have been disgusting for the poor...
They should have come to Australia instead of Canada. They would have survived in Australia.
And don't forget what the repulsive communists did to the Cambodian people a few decades back...not over 100 years... just over a few years in the 70s.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP4.HTM
In proportion to its population, Cambodia underwent a human catastrophe unparalleled in this century. Out of a 1970 population of probably near 7,100,0001 Cambodia probably lost slightly less than 4,000,000 people to war, rebellion, man-made famine, genocide, politicide, and mass murder. The vast majority, almost 3,300,000 men, women, and children (including 35,000 foreigners), were murdered within the years 1970 to 1980 by successive governments and guerrilla groups. Most of these, a likely near 2,400,000, were murdered by the communist Khmer Rouge.
The Khmer Rouge were fanatical communists who wanted to establish the most advanced and purist form of communism in the world. With military victory over the Lon Nol government in 1976 and absolute power thus in their hands, they hastily proceeded to construct their utopia. No actual or potential opponent was allowed to stand in their way; no violation of their draconian rules could go unpunished; no independent thoughts or groups could be allowed. No independent movement or property or enterprise was permitted. All Cambodians were as bricks in the hands of these supreme social engineers and human lives counted for little.
In Table 4.1A I present democide and war estimates from the sources and my calculations on these. Determining the number killed for 1970 to 1987 is especially difficult for Cambodia. Not only are central estimates often unavailable, but the parties themselves have made estimates for propaganda purposes that might well be too high or low. Moreover, scholars themselves have had strong points of view about the Lon Nol, Khmer Rouge, or Samrin regimes that could influence their estimates. Fortunately, for this one nation the population is small enough and the war-dead and democide large enough--over 50 percent of the 1970 population--that demographic analysis can discipline our assessment of the estimates and calculations on them.
For this reason I did a variety of regression analyses on available population estimates in order to calculate a range of population deficits. At the end of the Table 4.1B (lines 604 to 771) I list a sample of 167 population estimates collected for this purpose. First, I eliminated those estimates for the same period for which another source used the same reference.2 I also eliminated all lows or highs standing by themselves.3 Where there was both a low and high (as on line 712), I averaged them to get a mid-population figure and then erased the low and high. Next, I discarded all extreme high or low mid-estimates, such as that of 4,000,000 people in January, 1979 (from the Samrin regime--line 711).4 Finally, in the process of analysis I found the estimate for 1950 (line 605) created a counter-intuitive J-curve in population for this early period and had to be eliminated.
And according to people with eye on what is going on WW3 IS IMMINENT.
then what?
Caskur, if you want to know more about this very dark chapter in Canadian history, you should read Orphans of the Living: British Home Children in Canada by Lori Oschefski.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 19, 2024, 10:52:38 PMCaskur, if you want to know more about this very dark chapter in Canadian history, you should read Orphans of the Living: British Home Children in Canada by Lori Oschefski.
We have a darker chapter in Australian history with regard to the atrocities committed towards the Aborigines. More darker than most of the world even realises. At one stage is was legal to hunt Aborigines and collect a bounty on their heads.
Every country has skeletons in their history closet. The one I posted about, most Canadians are ignorant of it.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 19, 2024, 11:44:10 PMEvery country has skeletons in their history closet. The one I posted about, most Canadians are ignorant of it.
Of you heard of the Aboriginal dispersals?
A horrific slaughter of men, women and children.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians
Quote from: Lab Flaker on October 19, 2024, 11:47:35 PMOf you heard of the Aboriginal dispersals?
A horrific slaughter of men, women and children.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-5ExPE-Od4Xw7KBdtyibpqemasdBnA36IfJhXj_qnNxRbmZBpAGey60w&s=10)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians
No, I haven't. I've heard of the Stolen Generation.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 19, 2024, 11:52:58 PMNo, I haven't. I've heard of the Stolen Generation.
The lucky ones...
Quote from: Lab Flaker on October 20, 2024, 12:09:14 AMThe lucky ones...
The man I spoke of who told the story of his wife working washing the USA SOLDIERS uniforms at the convent called the stolen generation, "the rescued generation."
But they don't see it like that.
Aborigines killed the new arrivals first and the new arrivals retaliated.
You shouldn't leave that out.
In WA the abos killed Private Nesbit and speared another marine in the thigh. He got away on horse back to report the murder.
When Captain Stirling returned from the UK they hunted down the culprits and a war basically broke out at Pinjarra... the reports say 14 abos were killed to 70... depends who you believe because there has been PLENTY of bullshit rewriting of history especially about abos.
If you are stupid enough to attack people who have a gun you are dumber than a sack of potatoes.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 19, 2024, 11:52:58 PMNo, I haven't. I've heard of the Stolen Generation.
The children known as the stolen generation were half caste children no one wanted.
Full blooded aborigines didn't want them and neither did the white fathers so no one was looking after them. Usually the blacks killed them at birth but white authorities wanted to save them because not everyone was heartless. They only took half castes not full blood aborigines.
All those of the rescued generation keep their homes nice and clean because they were taught to live like regular European people. Clean houses, mended and ironed clothes and so on.
They also have been financially compensated more than once.
They are the most spoiled group on the entire planet in the entire history of humankind ever and what truly disgusts me is they are NEVER GRATEFUL NOR ARE THEY EVER RETIRING OF THIS FAKE VICTIM MENTALITY.
70 ish years ago the men were good workers and sort after workers but due to interference from leftie nations, usually from the UK started this pity me bullshit and ruined their progression into being regular people however there are plenty of good aborigines getting on with it...
My Brother-in-law is a 1/4 caste...he has a half brother who is 3/4 caste who is a good tradesman... my bil is in Port security and their other brother ran crime stoppers in NSW. SO not all abos are dropkicks.
As for full bloods, their initiation ceremonies are so disgusting and evil, writing about it isn't for here.
Quote from: caskur on October 20, 2024, 05:05:24 AMThe man I spoke of who told the story of his wife working washing the USA SOLDIERS uniforms at the convent called the stolen generation, "the rescued generation."
But they don't see it like that.
Aborigines killed the new arrivals first and the new arrivals retaliated.
You shouldn't leave that out.
In WA the abos killed Private Nesbit and speared another marine in the thigh. He got away on horse back to report the murder.
When Captain Stirling returned from the UK they hunted down the culprits and a war basically broke out at Pinjarra... the reports say 14 abos were killed to 70... depends who you believe because there has been PLENTY of bullshit rewriting of history especially about abos.
If you are stupid enough to attack people who have a gun you are dumber than a sack of potatoes.
There's some merit in what you're saying, but you have to remember, many sailors had been out to sea for so long that they were raping the Aborigine women.
In the Aboriginal culture, like many other cultures around the world even to this day, the young females were destined to be brides to Aboriginal men from within the tribe and neighbouring tribes.
That alone would be enough to see any man (not WOKE) fight to their death over such an atrocity.
And then there's the case of the Aborigine being isolated for over 60 000 years...and then the white devil from Dreamtime and beyond comes in their big seabirds and takes away their land by force.
You really have to see it in their own prospective.
The native was never equipped to take on advanced technology and humanities rapid evolution, or even the diseases that colonists brought with them.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 15, 2024, 11:11:06 PMOne of the worst atrocities in Canadian history is not well known or taught and is rarely discussed.
For 80 years, between 1869 and 1948, 100,000 children were brought into Canada from the British Isles. Many of these children were taken away from their parents against their parents' will, put into large institutions or work houses in Britain and then sold and shipped to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
They were part of an immigration scheme under the promoted illusion that they were all orphans going to a better life.
Prejudice at the time by the governments of both Britain and Canada perpetrated the myth that the children were dirty, diseased and little more than garbage.
Several agencies, including Barnardo's and Maria Rye, were selling the children as indentured labourers to farmers and households across Canada. Bernardo's alone brought in 35,000 children, mostly to Ontario.
Many children died and were buried in unmarked graves. Many others committed suicide. If a child ran away from a farm, the police would catch them and send them back.
Households in Canada paid $3 per child. It was a big money-making scheme. It was human trafficking.
Money went to agencies and governments. Then the trafficked children were forced to pay for their passage to Canada when they reached adulthood. Many weren't paid for their work but if they were, it was one cent a day.
Despite all the hardship, a good many of the children grew up and were accomplished. More than 25,000 Home Children fought in the First and Second World Wars. Some survivors were decorated soldiers.
Descendants of Home Children include Ontario Premier Doug Ford and hockey media legend Don Cherry. Both their grandfathers were Home Children.
There is an estimated four million Canadian descendants of Home Children living in Canada. Many people don't know that they are among them.
Britain and Australia have issued apologies, but Canada has not.
There are only two surviving Home Children in Canada, one is 109 years old and living in Vancouver and the other is 101 and living in Ontario.
Actually I had an uncle now deceased like that
Shen Li
Shen
He was not a 'home child' tho.
But He was abandoned as a child when his mother went crazy and tried to drown him in a river during the Great Depression. So I suppose they hauled her off to the mental institution.
Anyway he got 'adopted' by another family who worked him like a mule & used him as slave labor on a farm. He had a difficult childhood and a hard life. I'm not even sure if he got to attend school because they had him working all the time
It was a sad episode & perhaps reflected the difficult times he grew up in.
Anyway I knew someone who grew up during the Great Depression who told me she had a 'job' as a live in maid.
So I asked her how much she made what her salary was. She told me "Nothing." I suppose all she got was room and board.
But then she said "I was one of the lucky ones. At least I had a job & many other girls didn't."
Those were bleak times indeed.
Perhaps it was the equivalent of being a peasant in Maoist China
Shen Li
Shen
Quote from: Lab Flaker on October 21, 2024, 01:21:39 AMThere's some merit in what you're saying, but you have to remember, many sailors had been out to sea for so long that they were raping the Aborigine women.
In the Aboriginal culture, like many other cultures around the world even to this day, the young females were destined to be brides to Aboriginal men from within the tribe and neighbouring tribes.
That alone would be enough to see any man (not WOKE) fight to their death over such an atrocity.
And then there's the case of the Aborigine being isolated for over 60 000 years...and then the white devil from Dreamtime and beyond comes in their big seabirds and takes away their land by force.
You really have to see it in their own prospective.
The native was never equipped to take on advanced technology and humanities rapid evolution, or even the diseases that colonists brought with them.
They were not 'raping'... the new arrivals gave them bread from the flour they brought and abos wanted to eat it ALL the time not knowing the flour was a finite supply and was meant to be rationed. The abos were constantly trying to break in to their stores.
The first arrivals in WA were attacked and one was killed. As I said, Private Nesbit, so that naturally made everyone very, very, jumpy they were going to be next.
You watch too many BS made up stories that are just propaganda pity me stories.
Quote from: caskur on October 21, 2024, 06:10:39 AMThey were not 'raping'... the new arrivals gave them bread from the flour they brought and abos wanted to eat it ALL the time not knowing the flour was a finite supply and was meant to be rationed. The abos were constantly trying to break in to their stores.
The first arrivals in WA were attacked and one was killed. As I said, Private Nesbit, so that naturally made everyone very, very, jumpy they were going to be next.
You watch too many BS made up stories that are just propaganda pity me stories.
I seldom watch...I research xx
How did you research without the original books? They were taken out of libraries and replaced with politically correct rot.
I have some discarded old library books though about aborigines in WA.
I realise that Tasmania, Victoria, NSW and the other 3 states and 2 Territories have different stories to WA.
EVEN THOUGH WA was settled in 1829 that was like 50 or 60 years after NSW, I have the log of the first NSW fleet where it says the new arrivals were fishing and they were attacked by the aborigines then.
The truth is the new arrivals on both sides of the country were attacked first. If you hear otherwise it's NOT TRUE...
The Australian aborigines were the ONLY people on the entire planet that wore no clothes and had no permanent dwellings and were cannibals. It wasn't like the USA with large tribes. There weren't many aborigines.
They had family groups and every single family group spoke a different language...
Their life was exceptionally tough and they didn't live long. If they made it to their 40s they were extremely lucky it was highly unusual.
I have the book Western Australia's Tempestuous History Vols. 1 and 2 by John Nairn.
When Dampier stopped at the top end, he said when he sailed off, "they are the most miserable people he has ever seen anywhere on the entire planet" the conditions were that dire for the people here. And the flies were insufferable." < all paraphrased.
Here... from my book.
Scroll to Dampier..
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Fuk an abo woman? GROSS! They should have fucked a hole in the dirt instead! Better looking for sure!
Quote from: Lokmar on October 21, 2024, 11:51:19 AMFuk an abo woman? GROSS! They should have fucked a hole in the dirt instead! Better looking for sure!
They never owned the land either, they occupied the land. There is a difference but I think Lab Flaker gets heaps of NSW propaganda. According to abos, they invented everything including the world and not only do they own Australia but the ocean around it.
Ownership is a European concept.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 21, 2024, 11:51:19 AMFuk an abo woman? GROSS! They should have fucked a hole in the dirt instead! Better looking for sure!
But dont forget that cher Ancestors partied hardy on the Wild West frontier too...Lokmar!
Back then the prostitutes threw a blanket on the streets & did in broad daylight...Bud!
Quote from: JOE on October 21, 2024, 02:46:22 PMBut dont forget that cher Ancestors partied hardy on the Wild West frontier too...Lokmar!
Back then the prostitutes threw a blanket on the streets & did in broad daylight...Bud!
I'm sorry, WTF does that have to do with fukin an ugly abo woman?
Quote from: JOE on October 21, 2024, 03:08:18 AMAnyway I knew someone who grew up during the Great Depression who told me she had a 'job' as a live in maid.
So I asked her how much she made what her salary was. She told me "Nothing." I suppose all she got was room and board.
But then she said "I was one of the lucky ones. At least I had a job & many other girls didn't."
Those were bleak times indeed.
Perhaps it was the equivalent of being a peasant in Maoist China Shen Li
Shen
No
Canadian Mist is One Of The Worst Atrocities In Canadian History!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4wzbJTiLQ
Quote from: Lokmar on October 21, 2024, 10:41:58 PMCanadian Mist is One Of The Worst Atrocities In Canadian History!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4wzbJTiLQ
I've seen it back in Canada, but I never tried it.
DONT DOOO IT!!!!!
Quote from: Lokmar on October 21, 2024, 10:46:47 PMDONT DOOO IT!!!!!
I wasn't even thinking about it. I only like mixed drinks anyway.
Quote from: caskur on October 21, 2024, 11:18:41 AMHow did you research without the original books? They were taken out of libraries and replaced with politically correct rot.
I have some discarded old library books though about aborigines in WA.
I realise that Tasmania, Victoria, NSW and the other 3 states and 2 Territories have different stories to WA.
EVEN THOUGH WA was settled in 1829 that was like 50 or 60 years after NSW, I have the log of the first NSW fleet where it says the new arrivals were fishing and they were attacked by the aborigines then.
The truth is the new arrivals on both sides of the country were attacked first. If you hear otherwise it's NOT TRUE...
The Australian aborigines were the ONLY people on the entire planet that wore no clothes and had no permanent dwellings and were cannibals. It wasn't like the USA with large tribes. There weren't many aborigines.
They had family groups and every single family group spoke a different language...
Their life was exceptionally tough and they didn't live long. If they made it to their 40s they were extremely lucky it was highly unusual.
I have the book Western Australia's Tempestuous History Vols. 1 and 2 by John Nairn.
When Dampier stopped at the top end, he said when he sailed off, "they are the most miserable people he has ever seen anywhere on the entire planet" the conditions were that dire for the people here. And the flies were insufferable." < all paraphrased.
I follow the Aborigines on a Facebook group. I also follow an art group that depicts a lot of went down in history through their paintings.
A few novels that I've read, by author Peter Watt, gives a factual detail of many atrocities committed during the early days of settlement and developing NSW and Queensland during the dispersals. He wrote a great trilogy, which is part fiction (the storyline) but based on factual evidence within his own research.
It's worth a read: 1st book (1999) is called Cry Of The Curlew.
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When it comes to the subject of Aborigines I only deal with facts and I don't want the manufactured guilt trip the lefties rely on to manipulate so they can get handouts for nothing.
I am Australian... we NEVER had division/apartheid nor black slavery and it's absolute bullshit abos were tracked and murdered. Only a person committing murder would be tracked and brought to justice.
My brother in law was from Longreach Qld. He is one of 11 children all who grew up to become prominent people in their areas of expertise..
Our continents is massive and our population is minuscule and there is room for everyone and always has been.
Aborigines have ALWAYS been able to be well fed, well clothed, well housed and well educated since the Brits came and settled... and aborigines live better lives than the majority of mankind... and if they CHOOSE to sit under a bush and get legless everyday, that is on them not us.
And while they are at it, they should apologise to their women for all the EXTREME ABUSE and murders they dish out on their women and children everyday and get dried out.
Atrocities happened in their own tribes and still do. Just see NT Jacinta Price for the current troubles. They warred amongst themselves. And they are NOT a united group. Far from it.
The authorities of the earlier times used them for their knowledge of how to survive the harsh environment in the outback and where the water holes were.
Quote from: caskur on October 22, 2024, 03:58:50 AMWhen it comes to the subject of Aborigines I only deal with facts and I don't want the manufactured guilt trip the lefties rely on to manipulate so they can get handouts for nothing.
I am Australian... we NEVER had division/apartheid nor black slavery and it's absolute bullshit abos were tracked and murdered. Only a person committing murder would be tracked and brought to justice.
My brother in law was from Longreach Qld. He is one of 11 children all who grew up to become prominent people in their areas of expertise..
Our continents is massive and our population is minuscule and there is room for everyone and always has been.
Aborigines have ALWAYS been able to be well fed, well clothed, well housed and well educated since the Brits came and settled... and aborigines live better lives than the majority of mankind... and if they CHOOSE to sit under a bush and get legless everyday, that is on them not us.
And while they are at it, they should apologise to their women for all the EXTREME ABUSE and murders they dish out on their women and children everyday and get dried out.
Atrocities happened in their own tribes and still do. Just see NT Jacinta Price for the current troubles. They warred amongst themselves. And they are NOT a united group. Far from it.
The authorities of the earlier times used them for their knowledge of how to survive the harsh environment in the outback and where the water holes were.
Do you like to read though Caskur? The author doesn't take sides, but rather tells the story as it went down in history without prejudice. It has quite a bit on the notorious King's X in Sydney.
(https://i.imgur.com/HNiYVCE.gif)
:crampe:
Pffft... the way Maori treat women is just as bad.
At least Maori are good workers.
Shen LeeS What your first post leaves out and is very significant is flu.
My husbands grandmother had 11 children and 1 died when he was 2 from pneumonia.... anyway it was the in the day before Australians developed medicinal anti-biotic.
In the Spanish Flu era after WW1 SECONDARY Bacterial infections killed Spanish Flu victims...
Most of all deaths of kids were from malnutrition and Flu.
That is European history that used to reduce populations down to 1/3 every 50 years.
Since humans got smarter the death rate went lower.
See what you drum up under History of Flu.
Quote from: caskur on October 22, 2024, 07:00:34 AMPffft... the way Maori treat women is just as bad.
At least Maori are good workers.
That was a good digital gif of you though. Lol
Quote from: Lab Flaker on October 22, 2024, 07:54:55 AMThat was a good digital gif of you though. Lol
Of course... I snagged it.. it's on my phone...
I will show you something done years ago by TDT Nele Gambino...lol
Shen LeeS and
Lab Flaker
Here is that story I was telling you about the Irish girl sent to Australia during the 2nd World War... salvaged from my house fire 25 years ago...
The top row is torn...
(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/2156_05_11_24_7_45_22.jpeg)
This was an atrocity I didn't realise you kids don't know about or werent born yet some of you...
When we older ones tell you something you should believe us
DKG
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Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to several thousand, with thousands more wounded. The event had both short and long term consequences.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 1...
1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre
Quote from: caskur on November 05, 2024, 08:29:30 AMThis was an atrocity I didn't realise you kids don't know about or werent born yet some of you...
When we older ones tell you something you should believe us DKG
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Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to several thousand, with thousands more wounded. The event had both short and long term consequences.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 1...
1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre
I'm not defending China, but that was thirty five years ago and is not related to crime..
I have an uncle that managed a factory n Dongguan Guandong province......most employees were migrants from rural provinces..
I never heard my uncle mention any crime worse than a few pick pockets......and gun crime is very rare anywhere in East Asia.
It doesn't get as much media attention in the West, but South Korea had a similar type incident in the early 1980's.....South Korea like all countries in East Asia doesn't have a gun violence problem..
Now that I think about it the USA had the Kent State massacre and Northern Ireland had the bloody Sunday slaughter of civilians.
Quote from: caskur on November 05, 2024, 07:52:55 AMShen LeeS and Lab Flaker
Here is that story I was telling you about the Irish girl sent to Australia during the 2nd World War... salvaged from my house fire 25 years ago...
The top row is torn...
(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/2156_05_11_24_7_45_22.jpeg)
Hahahahahaaa...there were another 400 000 Aboriginal people claiming government benefits this year.
Plenty-white-black-fellas! :crampe:
And since they stopped abortions in the USA child trafficking will start up again