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Title: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair question
Post by: cc on December 10, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
OK Querky - Your attitude on people's safety has voluntarily set you up for a fair question

 

You kids (perish the thought there would be any more unicorns) are held by islamic killers who are showing you a live internet connection  of them being  tortured and promising to eventually murder them

 

A lucky break - Your friends have captured one of the killers who knows where they are.



He refuses to tell where they are.

 

One of your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?

 

A package arrives - it has your girl's hand in it - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?

 

They start to cut slowly at her neck in the live internet connection .... blood flows .. the knife is obviously dull for effect - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Being as such tactics are being done daily by islamics and so you know what the progression of events from here on  -  Your reply would be?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2014, 05:03:41 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"OK Querky - Your attitude on people's safety has voluntarily set you up for a fair question

 

You kids (perish the thought there would be any more unicorns) are held by islamic killers who are showing you a live internet connection  of them being  tortured and promising to eventually murder them

 

A lucky break - Your friends have captured one of the killers who knows where they are.



He refuses to tell where they are.

 

One of your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?



A package arrives - it has your girl's hand in it - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?

 

They start to cut slowly at her neck in the live internet connection .... blood flows .. the knife is obviously dull for effect - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Being as such tactics are being done daily by islamics and so you know what the progression of events from here on  -  Your reply would be?

No fucking mercy from the Iron Ch1nk!! ac_beating
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 10, 2014, 05:16:08 PM
I'd of had his balls rolling across the floor immediately following the first call if he didn't talk



Now, Mr Idealist Moonbeam ................. ??
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 10, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
A fair question wouldn't consist of insults and name calling, but I'll answer your question because you would like to know and I'm above all that.



I would call the police. Civilians don't have the resources to conduct rescue missions against armed kidnappers. Only professionals would have any chance of success.



What would you do?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: keeper on December 10, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
I consider myself a civil person, But when family is involved, Fuck ya , your mine Bitch. I would do what it takes.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2014, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"I consider myself a civil person, But when family is involved, Fuck ya , your mine Bitch. I would do what it takes.

Ditto that, but I would also seek some fucking payback(like 100 fold). The Iron Ch!nk isn't always as sweet as I appear to everyone ya know Keeps. ac_razz
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 10, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
Life is not a wonky progressive theory. It is life. Anyone in position to save an innocent life .. any life not just family .. and would not do so   would require  a subhuman immoral coward



I find it very disturbing that I have to share this earth with  people who would not do what must be done for others


QuoteWhat would you do?
I would hope I would not only hook the battery clips to his balls,  I hope I would hold the switch on until he gave the location .. at least I would hope I would act correctly and strongly if faced with the opportunity to save a life or lives



And, I hope I would do it to save for ANY decent human, not just family  ... without a blink ... even if I had never met the person ..  



Faced with the choice of a killer perpetrator suffers a bit or an innocent dies  ... it is a simple moral decision for any DECENT human. I hope I would act correctly if placed in that position.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2014, 11:50:13 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"I consider myself a civil person, But when family is involved, Fuck ya , your mine Bitch. I would do what it takes.

Who wouldn't.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2014, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"Life is not a wonky progressive theory. It is life. Anyone in position to save an innocent life .. any life not just family .. and would not do so   would require  a subhuman immoral coward



I find it very disturbing that I have to share this earth with  people who would not do what must be done for others


QuoteWhat would you do?
I would hope I would not only hook the battery clips to his balls,  I hope I would hold the switch on until he gave the location .. at least I would hope I would act correctly and strongly if faced with the opportunity to save a life or lives



And, I hope I would do it to save for ANY decent human, not just family  ... without a blink ... even if I had never met the person ..  



Faced with the choice of a killer perpetrator suffers a bit or an innocent dies  ... it is a simple moral decision for any DECENT human. I hope I would act correctly if placed in that position.

It is because this is not real life that someone gives a progressive theory. I could do that too, but I know if faced with a family member being subjected to death that theory would quickly be set aside.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 01:15:31 AM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I would hope I would not only hook the battery clips to his balls,  I hope I would hold the switch on until he gave the location .. at least I would hope I would act correctly and strongly if faced with the opportunity to save a life or lives



And, I hope I would do it to save for ANY decent human, not just family  ... without a blink ... even if I had never met the person ..  



Faced with the choice of a killer perpetrator suffers a bit or an innocent dies  ... it is a simple moral decision for any DECENT human. I hope I would act correctly if placed in that position.

If you were given the location of the killers, how could you stop them?



Any police department in the civilized world would tell you the only viable option is to contact the police. You can't just go up to the killers and ask them to stop. You can't just call up some mercenary force to do the job.



Your logic is one dimensional. You torture someone, but then what? You can't do anything but call the authorities who would be mad at you for not calling them in the first place.



How are you going to stop the killers on your own without any help? They would just capture and kill you too. You're not Rambo. Real life isn't an episode of 24 and you're no Jack Bauer.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 01:32:35 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I would hope I would not only hook the battery clips to his balls,  I hope I would hold the switch on until he gave the location .. at least I would hope I would act correctly and strongly if faced with the opportunity to save a life or lives



And, I hope I would do it to save for ANY decent human, not just family  ... without a blink ... even if I had never met the person ..  



Faced with the choice of a killer perpetrator suffers a bit or an innocent dies  ... it is a simple moral decision for any DECENT human. I hope I would act correctly if placed in that position.

If you were given the location of the killers, how could you stop them?
Simple. After I did what the police cannot do (cannot thanks to gutless  moonbeamers) ...  THEN I would get the police to raid the place  



While it might be fun if other's lives were not at stake, I am not Jane Bauer and the police are trained and resourced for serious conflict



Now, gimme a hard question

.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 01:53:25 AM
.

I will tell you something further on this issue.



If it was YOUR kid, or anyone's kid, or  anyone's  father, or  anyone's mother, or any good person .... I would do whatever it took to keep them from being tortured and / or killed

W H A T E V E R  it took



Innocents over those who would kill innocents is a too easy human choice

.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
:laugh:



"I believe I know the location of where my children are being held. I need you to send a rescue mission."



"How do you know you've found the location?"



"I tortured someone."



"You did what???"



So while a killer is cutting her neck, you get your friends to torture someone who will conveniently tell you what you want to know within minutes. You call the cops, and with no questions asked they send out a rescue team. The killers just give up. "You got me!"



This implausible situation wouldn't even make the cutting room floor of any movie or tv show. There hasn't been a single occurrence of this implausible situation in history. It's a fantasy.



If your loved ones lives were in danger, you would call the authorities immediately. There's no way you would waste your time torturing someone for a confession. It would take at least hours or days and you wouldn't know if the info is legit. You would have no idea what to do.



Think about it. If your loved one lives were in danger, would you have the guts to spend hours or days torturing someone or would you call the cops right away? Any reasonable person would call the the police.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 02:36:33 AM
Of course call the cops immediately silly goose .... but I'd never give them the guy's location - they are subject to your moonbeam and lollipop rules and would get nothing  .. nada ... zip - we are not and if we are tough of spirit, we have the only shot at it.



OK, I get it. While you would not try to give YOUR kid every chance at life while the cops drive in circles with no idea where to look .. I would do everything possible to  try to save YOUR kid



Some have it (or at least think / hope  they would when push comes to shove)... some are useless progressive moonbeams



Pass me the battery cable clips ... and keep you pen and copline phone ready
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 02:47:00 AM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"Of course call the cops immediately

So you would call the cops immediately if your loved ones were in danger. You have no expertise in torture and wouldn't have the guts to do it or waste all that time.



You would call the police immediately before doing anything else.



Is that correct?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 02:50:35 AM
I said it very clear - in my own words
QuoteOf course call the cops immediately silly goose .... but I'd never give them the guy's location - they are subject to your moonbeam and lollipop rules and would get nothing .. nada ... zip - we are not and if we are tough of spirit, we have the only shot at it.
I have great respect for cops but would never  expect them to do what they cannot do. Cops are superb WHEN they know where trouble is. They know how to raid a place once they know where it is. Getting info fast out of a dedicated killer, not so much.



Now step out of the way and pass me the battery cable clips
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 02:58:21 AM
You wouldn't immediately call the police and tell them everything you know? You would try to take matters into your own hands first?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 03:01:06 AM
What cc thinks she is:







The reality:
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 03:03:43 AM
When all else fails, try post silly  videos.


QuoteYou wouldn't immediately call the police and tell them everything you know? You would try to take matters into your own hands first?
What part of      
QuoteOf course call the cops immediately silly goose .... but I'd never give them the guy's location - they are subject to your moonbeam and lollipop rules and would get nothing .. nada ... zip - we are not and if we are tough of spirit, we have the only shot at it.
 didn't you get the first 2 times



Now stop being redundant and silly and pass me the battery cable clips
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 03:14:33 AM
That's what I thought! You would call the cops immediately! Just like I said I would!



"I would call the police."



I'm glad to see we agree!
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 09:05:23 AM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"OK Querky - Your attitude on people's safety has voluntarily set you up for a fair question

 

You kids (perish the thought there would be any more unicorns) are held by islamic killers who are showing you a live internet connection  of them being  tortured and promising to eventually murder them

 

A lucky break - Your friends have captured one of the killers who knows where they are.



He refuses to tell where they are.

 

One of your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?

 

A package arrives - it has your girl's hand in it - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Your reply would be?

 

They start to cut slowly at her neck in the live internet connection .... blood flows .. the knife is obviously dull for effect - Again your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"

 

Being as such tactics are being done daily by islamics and so you know what the progression of events from here on  -  Your reply would be?

Oh my goodness cc li tarte, I do not want to even think about anything so horrific.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: "Romero"That's what I thought! You would call the cops immediately! Just like I said I would!



"I would call the police."



I'm glad to see we agree!


The difference is you would call the police and then sit on your hands and cry where people like cc would act upon the situation given the knowledge available to them.  



That's the difference between a namby-pamby progressive ideologue like you and a person who hasn't given the responsibility for their entire lives over to the nanny state.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: "Romero"A fair question wouldn't consist of insults and name calling, but I'll answer your question because you would like to know and I'm above all that.



I would call the police. Civilians don't have the resources to conduct rescue missions against armed kidnappers. Only professionals would have any chance of success.



What would you do?

Good gawd, do you even have a pair? I cannot believe your extreme fucking cowardice. ac_doofus
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"A fair question wouldn't consist of insults and name calling, but I'll answer your question because you would like to know and I'm above all that.



I would call the police. Civilians don't have the resources to conduct rescue missions against armed kidnappers. Only professionals would have any chance of success.



What would you do?

Good gawd, do you even have a pair? I cannot believe your extreme fucking cowardice. ac_doofus


He probably does and I'm pretty sure he carries them around in his murse.  ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 11:44:02 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"A fair question wouldn't consist of insults and name calling, but I'll answer your question because you would like to know and I'm above all that.



I would call the police. Civilians don't have the resources to conduct rescue missions against armed kidnappers. Only professionals would have any chance of success.



What would you do?

Good gawd, do you even have a pair? I cannot believe your extreme fucking cowardice. ac_doofus


He probably does and I'm pretty sure he carries them around in his murse.  ac_toofunny

He won't stick his neck one fucking centimetre while family members are being tortured/killed?? What kind of a pathetic "man" would do that? My husband and my Daddy know there is a lot more to being a man, make that a HUman than a 911 call. ac_rollseyes  ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Good gawd, do you even have a pair? I cannot believe your extreme fucking cowardice. ac_doofus


He probably does and I'm pretty sure he carries them around in his murse.  ac_toofunny

He won't stick his neck one fucking centimetre while family members are being tortured/killed?? What kind of a pathetic "man" would do that? My husband and my Daddy know there is a lot more to being a man, make that a HUman than a 911 call. ac_rollseyes  ac_rollseyes


Shen I'm pretty sure Romero is blowing smoke, I think it's his usual "circle jerk" debate style at work here.



I would hope that he would do more to save a family member if it was within his power other than just call the police and hope for the best.



If not, that's very sad. But that being said, millions of people would do just that because they think they are powerless and in many ways they like it that way. They have bought into the prog concept that "the state knows best" and they live under the false impression that there is a cradle to the grave government safety net looking out for their best interests in all things. They are commonly referred to as "sheepeople" and they are fucking legion. I know it is revolting to people like you and I but these "sheepeople" think it's the way to be.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Quote from: "Renee"


Shen I'm pretty sure Romero is blowing smoke, I think it's his usual "circle jerk" debate style at work here.

I know that, but I still find it disturbing. He cannot drop the prog line for one second in one single thread?? ac_wot
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


Shen I'm pretty sure Romero is blowing smoke, I think it's his usual "circle jerk" debate style at work here.

I know that, but I still find it disturbing. He cannot drop the prog line for one second in one single thread?? ac_wot


Progs are slaves to their ideology. When you can't think for yourself and the government is your God, it's difficult to go off script.



Sounds pretty stupid but then again we are talking about progs.  ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


Shen I'm pretty sure Romero is blowing smoke, I think it's his usual "circle jerk" debate style at work here.

I know that, but I still find it disturbing. He cannot drop the prog line for one second in one single thread?? ac_wot


Progs are slaves to their ideology. When you can't think for yourself and the government is your God, it's difficult to go off script.



Sounds pretty stupid but then again we are talking about progs.  ac_toofunny

We both know why CC asked the question in the first place. She was trying to see if he would deviate from the prog script.



This will sound wacist(well not to you Renee), but that is rare for East Asians to cling to ideology as rigidly as Romero/old eves do. We are a pragmatic people. Even when the ideologues know it means the life and death of their family members, they won't deviate from the script??



I find it very, very disturbing.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: "Renee"I would hope that he would do more to save a family member if it was within his power other than just call the police and hope for the best.

Darn right! When your loved ones are in danger, you never ever call the police.



After "questioning" one of the killers for several seconds, I'd discover the location and jump into a Harrier jet conveniently located nearby. I'd fly to the construction site, and there she is climbing a crane trying to escape!



"Jump, honey, jump!"



"I can't do it, daddy! I'm scared!"



"You can do it, baby! I believe in you!"



She jumps right into the cockpit, but the killer's right behind her! I shake the jet and he falls onto one of the air-to-air missiles. Click - PHOOOM! I fire the missile into a skyscraper, causing a massive explosion.



"You're fired", I say, even though it makes absolutely no sense.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
^Anyone that would put stupid ideology ahead of the lives of their own family is nuts.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 03:11:14 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Darn right! When your loved ones are in danger, you never ever call the police.



Who said that or even indicated that not calling the police was a good idea? Just stop with your circle jerk bullshit; it gets very tedious when it is so obvious that you are simply spinning circles.


Quote from: "Romero"After "questioning" one of the killers for several seconds, I'd discover the location and jump into a Harrier jet conveniently located nearby. I'd fly to the construction site, and there she is climbing a crane trying to escape!



"Jump, honey, jump!"



"I can't do it, daddy! I'm scared!"



"You can do it, baby! I believe in you!"



She jumps right into the cockpit, but the killer's right behind her! I shake the jet and he falls onto one of the air-to-air missiles. Click - PHOOOM! I fire the missile into a skyscraper, causing a massive explosion.



"You're fired", I say, even though it makes absolutely no sense.


Yeah I've seen "True Lies" too. Not impressed or amused.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Darn right! When your loved ones are in danger, you never ever call the police.



Who said that or even indicated that not calling the police was a good idea? Just stop with your circle jerk bullshit; it gets very tedious when it is so obvious that you are simply spinning circles.

The question CC asked Romero
QuoteOne of your friends asks you "Would you like me to ""convince"" him that it is in his better interests to tell where they are?"



Your reply would be?


Romero's response was he doesn't have the resources, so he'd call the police!! A friend is even willing to handle it for him, but the answer is still no!! Unbelievable, he's willing to let loved ones die because his ideology dictates no deviation. Of all the things I have seen posted in 2014, this one leaves me shaking my head more than just about any other.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
cc said she would call the police immediately. Before going off on her fantasy rescue mission, apparently. You would call the police immediately too.



Wouldn't you call the police? How could you mount a rescue mission against armed killers? You got a stockpile of weapons at home? Why the heck do you think you'd have more success mounting a rescue mission than armed and trained professionals?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
CC said, "I'd of had his balls rolling across the floor immediately following the first call if he didn't talk"



You on the other hand would decline a friend's offer of help prolly letting a family member die a hideous death while waiting for the cops. I really, really hope you are NOT serious. You have to accept your friend's offer. Anybody with a conscience would.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
"conscience" does not exist in the unicorn progressive world. Only dogma exists.



I suppose maybe  conscience  would come into play IF dogma was circumvented.



I'm very disappointed to know there are such people among us, but that is something one has to accept as a reality ... an anchor good people must drag along and still do right
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"CC said, "I'd of had his balls rolling across the floor immediately following the first call if he didn't talk"



You on the other hand would decline a friend's offer of help prolly letting a family member die a hideous death while waiting for the cops. I really, really hope you are NOT serious. You have to accept your friend's offer. Anybody with a conscience would.

You torture the guy and get the info. Now how could you mount a rescue mission against the armed killers?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 03:44:10 PM
You are so disingenuous. She nor I said no such thing.



You know the cops would be given any info IMMEDIATELY to get THEIR job done.



Then, Disingenuous R U
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Shen Li"CC said, "I'd of had his balls rolling across the floor immediately following the first call if he didn't talk"



You on the other hand would decline a friend's offer of help prolly letting a family member die a hideous death while waiting for the cops. I really, really hope you are NOT serious. You have to accept your friend's offer. Anybody with a conscience would.

You torture the guy and get the info. Now how could you mount a rescue mission against the armed killers?

The only person that has the info that could lead you to the Islamo-killers is the captured guy. Time is running out and your friend CAN convince him to spill the beans about they are. What do you do? Take him up on his offer or let your family die. Once you find out where the Islamo-sickos are you can give the cops a call with the info, but first you have to find out where they are. Only your friend can convince him to share this info, what do you do?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
I call the police. I highly doubt that friend would happen to be an expert in interrogation. Simply assuming that he can get the info isn't very realistic. It's a job for trained professionals.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Cowards do what cowards do ... nothing



Well OK, they make excuses and try to take  the key point  down another path .... which was what do you do BESIDES call the cops immediately



Seems your answer is that you would do nothing
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: "Romero"I call the police. I highly doubt that friend would happen to be an expert in interrogation. Simply assuming that he can get the info isn't very realistic. It's a job for trained professionals.

Assuming the police can get the info is far less realistic. Your friend has assured you he can get this Islamic piece o' shit to spill the beans. Would you decline the offer? Once you have this info you can call 911.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Romero on December 11, 2014, 04:01:05 PM
If my friend isn't a trained professional, I'm not going to waste any time hoping he does a good job playing make believe interrogator. A hostage situation is a job for  experts, not amateurs.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: RW on December 11, 2014, 04:02:19 PM
I think the point is would you torture someone to get information that would save your loved one?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"I think the point is would you torture someone to get information that would save your loved one?

Yes, I would and I think 99% of us would. It's only those 1 percenters like Romero who wouldn't. ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: "Romero"cc said she would call the police immediately. Before going off on her fantasy rescue mission, apparently. You would call the police immediately too.



Wouldn't you call the police? How could you mount a rescue mission against armed killers? You got a stockpile of weapons at home? Why the heck do you think you'd have more success mounting a rescue mission than armed and trained professionals?


 ac_hithere
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
I'd call Renee ..... prolly would have her standing by, arms loaded,  ready to roll
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I'd call Renee ..... prolly would have her standing by, arms loaded,  ready to roll

I have never doubted, not for a second, Renee's power of persuasion. I would almost pity the poor Islamo bastard that needed a little convincing if Renee was the "friend" CC had in mind.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: "Contractions R US"cc said she would call the police immediately. Before going off on her fantasy rescue mission,
 You can see the ludicrous contradiction trying to have it both ways at the same time that you painted yourself into here, right?
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I'd call Renee ..... prolly would have her standing by, arms loaded,  ready to roll


Yay, I'd get to use my 15 plus years of IDPA competition training. ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I'd call Renee ..... prolly would have her standing by, arms loaded,  ready to roll


Yay, I'd get to use my 15 plus years of IDPA competition training. ac_biggrin

Have no idea what that is, but I am guessing the captured Islamo-monster won't like it much. His only hope would be if his pals were holding Romero's family because Romero would rather see his family members killed than torture someone to get information that would save his loved one. ac_wtf
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Renee on December 11, 2014, 05:32:35 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"I'd call Renee ..... prolly would have her standing by, arms loaded,  ready to roll


Yay, I'd get to use my 15 plus years of IDPA competition training. ac_biggrin

Have no idea what that is, but I am guessing the captured Islamo-monster won't like it much. His only hope would be if his pals were holding Romero's family because Romero would rather see his family members killed than torture someone to get information that would save his loved one. ac_wtf


http://www.idpa.com/
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 11, 2014, 06:24:51 PM
Neat!!!!! ^



As a general statement, it's good that there are some not-progs to keep the world spinning despite constant efforts by progs that would stop it without good people on the job



This is just one of so many areas where progs advocate self defeating theories .... usually destructive-to-society theories ... theories that are currently being experimented with and suffocating the US totally and us to some extent
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 12, 2014, 10:44:14 PM
Diane Feinstein's recently released report on controversial CIA interrogation practices indicts, not only the Bush administration, but also all previous administrations going back to the controversial leader of the Franks, Charles Martel, and his victory over the moderate Muslim community at Tours in 732 AD, which can only be described as a gross law enforcement misconduct and hate crime.



Citing inside information from medieval Latin and Arabic sources, the report prepared by Feinstein's staffers details a shocking degree of intolerance and Islamophobia on the part of Charles Martel's administration and the army of Franks, who countered the peaceful expansion of moderate Muslims into Europe via Spain with such violent hatred that historians suspect could only be explained by racist motives.



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"Clearly this was racial profiling on part of the Frankish administration," determined Yale historian Dr. Hussein al-Isis. "Franks and other white Europeans were simply uncomfortable around brown Middle Easterners, no matter how harmless their intentions."



While mostly white contemporary historians crowed about a "Christian victory over Islam," understandably bitter and disaffected members of the Muslim community, victimized by Martel's extremist policies, were compelled to fend for themselves while retreating through the Pyrenees shouting, "Hands up, don't spear me!" and "Death to Infidels!"



Through no fault of their own, villages were plundered and citizens killed by some of the elements within the otherwise peaceful group of Muslim protesters, who became radicalized as a result of racism and gross civil right violations.



"I was disgusted at what we uncovered," said an indignant Senator Diane Feinstein. "Instead of empathizing with the Muslim community and hearing their side of the story - instead of trying to find common ground and a mutually acceptable compromise through interfaith dialogue and negotiations, the bigoted leader of Franks chose to kill the Muslim leader, Abdul Rahman al-Ghafiqi."



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At a White House press conference, President Obama informed reporters that "I just found out about the Battle of Tours while watching History Channel, and let me tell you, nobody is angrier about this than I am. I have asked our outgoing attorney general, Eric Holder, to immediately investigate Martel's activities, to get to the bottom of this issue, and if possible, to take legal action against Charles Martel and the Frankish Kingdom. We will not rest until we have a conviction."





Dr. Hussein al-Isis  ac_smile
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: RW on December 13, 2014, 02:22:23 AM
Pfft guns.  I'm more of a testicle electrocuting, finger nailing ripping kinda gal myself.
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 13, 2014, 02:32:37 AM
Kinda figured that



 ac_smile
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2014, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: "Real Woman"Pfft guns.  I'm more of a testicle electrocuting, finger nailing ripping kinda gal myself.

 ac_wot
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: cc on December 13, 2014, 03:35:07 PM
She was just kidding





















i think
Title: Re: Querky - Relative to your professed ideals - A fair ques
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"She was just kidding





















i think

I hope so for her husband's sake.

 ac_toofunny
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