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Title: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 09:51:11 PM
This is a question for the ages. David Lee Roth was a better showman. Sammy Hagar is a better vocalist and a true musician.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llfjDUB66Z4
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 09:51:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYnIzlb1ysA
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 10:16:34 PM
Sammy was better by far.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:00:19 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 10:16:34 PMSammy was better by far.
I'm leaning in that direction too.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:21:41 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:00:19 PMI'm leaning in that direction too.

Sammy's been great since all the way back to Montose days back in 70s.

Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:22:54 PM
Plus I had a couple beers with him at a strip club once in Clearwater, Florida.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:23:46 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:22:54 PMPlus I had a couple beers with him at a strip club once in Clearwater, Florida.
I'm calling horseshit. Details or it never happens Stud.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:23:46 PMI'm calling horseshit. Details or it never happens Stud.

Back in the late 80s I lived in Dunedin, Florida.  I used to go to this gentlemans club with my work mates for lunch sometimes.  The stripper bitches were hot as fuck and beers were only a buck. 

Anyway, seeing as how it was lunchtime, the place was never very busy when we went in there.  One day when we went in and settled at the bar, I ended up sitting next to this scruffy looking dude who was there to enjoy the cheap beer and hot bitches. Got to talking and it turned out it was Sammy Fucking Hagar.  He was pretty cool.

Next time I'll tell you about the time I did a bunch of coke with Stevie Ray Vaughn. ;)

This one's good too:

Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:30:56 PMBack in the late 80s I lived in Dunedin, Florida.  I used to go to this gentlemans club with my work mates for lunch sometimes.  The stripper bitches were hot as fuck and beers were only a buck. 

Anyway, seeing as how it was lunchtime, the place was never very busy when we went in there.  One day when we went in and settled at the bar, I ended up sitting next to this scruffy looking dude who was there to enjoy the cheap beer and hot bitches. Got to talking and it turned out it was Sammy Fucking Hagar.  He was pretty cool.

Next time I'll tell you about the time I did a bunch of coke with Stevie Ray Vaughn. ;)

This one's good too:

Great story. :good:
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 02, 2025, 01:55:35 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 01, 2025, 11:35:49 PMGreat story. :good:
:thumbup2:
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: DKG on January 02, 2025, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 11:30:56 PMBack in the late 80s I lived in Dunedin, Florida.  I used to go to this gentlemans club with my work mates for lunch sometimes.  The stripper bitches were hot as fuck and beers were only a buck. 

Anyway, seeing as how it was lunchtime, the place was never very busy when we went in there.  One day when we went in and settled at the bar, I ended up sitting next to this scruffy looking dude who was there to enjoy the cheap beer and hot bitches. Got to talking and it turned out it was Sammy Fucking Hagar.  He was pretty cool.

Next time I'll tell you about the time I did a bunch of coke with Stevie Ray Vaughn. ;)

This one's good too:

I gather this was before he joined VH?
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: formosan on January 02, 2025, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 01, 2025, 10:16:34 PMSammy was better by far.
Hmmm, I don't know....I liked both singers..

Van Halen changed their musical direction with Sammy Hagar which makes a comparison difficult.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: priscilla1961 on January 02, 2025, 01:13:00 PM
Sammy Hagar :good:
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Dove on January 02, 2025, 01:57:30 PM
 Damn I agree with Shen.

 Hagar was always the better musician. But David Lee Roth was a better showman.

 And as a child of the 80s when someone says "Van Halen" my brain goes "I get UP...and nothing gets me down!!"

 https://youtu.be/SwYN7mTi6HM?si=qe-uIBc3c6-SEZzM

 Haha I still see this playing on a cube shaped TV in a room with wood panel walls lol.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: J E B Stuart on January 02, 2025, 02:08:14 PM
I like 'em both, but if there was a pistol to my head and I had to choose, I'd pick Roth Van Halen over Hagar Van Halen.

Amen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Brent on January 02, 2025, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: J E B Stuart on January 02, 2025, 02:08:14 PMI like 'em both, but if there was a pistol to my head and I had to choose, I'd pick Roth Van Halen over Hagar Van Halen.

Amen.
I would go with the Roth era too. Not because I consider DLR a better vocalist. They were not Van Halen after Roth. They became Van Hagar. A different band.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 02, 2025, 03:07:18 PM
I'm with team Sammy.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Thiel on January 02, 2025, 06:24:09 PM
When I think of Eddie at his best, I think of VH with David Lee Roth.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 02, 2025, 07:11:44 PM
I was never really a Van Halen fan no matter who held the mic. I thought Runnin With the Devil, Unchained, and Panama were okay. So, I guess I would say I like old Roth better.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 02, 2025, 07:13:05 PM
Sammy Hagar solo was better than either Van Halen singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1f1e6cyTZ0
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: formosan on January 02, 2025, 12:40:00 PMHmmm, I don't know....I liked both singers..

Van Halen changed their musical direction with Sammy Hagar which makes a comparison difficult.

Think so?  I kinda hear all Van Halen as just Eddie driving all the riffs.  I think Sammy's musicality added a positive thing overall. 

I did like David Lee as a frontman, though.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Frood on January 02, 2025, 08:33:54 PM
Never got into Van Halen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 02, 2025, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 08:32:27 PMThink so?  I kinda hear all Van Halen as just Eddie driving all the riffs.  I think Sammy's musicality added a positive thing overall. 

I did like David Lee as a frontman, though.
There were fewer riffs and more reliance on keyboards with Sammy Hagar. That wasn't Sammy Hagar's idea, it was Eddie Van Halen's.

Apparently musical disagreements with the brothers was one of the reasons DLR quit the band.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 02, 2025, 09:51:39 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 02, 2025, 09:22:43 PMThere were fewer riffs and more reliance on keyboards with Sammy Hagar. That wasn't Sammy Hagar's idea, it was Eddie Van Halen's.

Apparently musical disagreements with the brothers was one of the reasons DLR quit the band.
I forget what album I heard with Hagar. It was pretty dang lame.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on January 02, 2025, 09:22:43 PMThere were fewer riffs and more reliance on keyboards with Sammy Hagar. That wasn't Sammy Hagar's idea, it was Eddie Van Halen's.

Apparently musical disagreements with the brothers was one of the reasons DLR quit the band.

Hmmm, I'd have to do a re-listen and I'm far too lazy for that.  I do know that Eddie was hard to work with according to most. Even his wife left him because he was a jagoff.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 02, 2025, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 09:52:49 PMHmmm, I'd have to do a re-listen and I'm far too lazy for that.  I do know that Eddie was hard to work with according to most. Even his wife left him because he was a jagoff.
That wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 03, 2025, 12:06:33 AM
This picture is of Eddie Van Halen and his mother taken in 1967. Lot of folks don't know it, but he was half Indonesian Chinese.
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/471997449_900779008924354_6598606554596131516_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600_tt6&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=WELFG-wV2kwQ7kNvgF6eTKZ&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&_nc_gid=A8SxrUOp__TmyJBv1C22TbV&oh=00_AYC5GCnJVuHZN8gT2u8qFwWhhpEsGUF4xbWrPdmYvlAUiA&oe=677D566A)
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: J E B Stuart on January 03, 2025, 12:39:09 AM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 09:52:49 PM. . . I do know that Eddie was hard to work with according to most. Even his wife left him because he was a jagoff.

Yeah. He fucked over Anthony, too.

Amen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 03, 2025, 12:47:58 AM
Quote from: J E B Stuart on January 03, 2025, 12:39:09 AMYeah. He fucked over Anthony, too.

Amen.
Do you mean they screwed him out of his share of the band profits?
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: J E B Stuart on January 03, 2025, 01:06:13 AM
Quote from: Herman on January 03, 2025, 12:47:58 AMDo you mean they screwed him out of his share of the band profits?

Sumpin' like that. I don't recall the precise details, but it was in a Van Halen documentary I watched a few months or so ago.  As for Eddie, i remember thinkin', *what a DICK!"

Amen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 03, 2025, 01:08:49 AM
Quote from: J E B Stuart on January 03, 2025, 01:06:13 AMSumpin' like that. I don't recall the precise details, but it was in a Van Halen documentary I watched a few months or so ago.  As for Eddie, i remember thinkin', *what a DICK!"

Amen.
I just did a little checking on youtube, and ya Eddie was a real dick.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: J E B Stuart on January 03, 2025, 01:30:04 AM
The thing is, I don't think the Red Rocker joined Van Halen outta need. It wasn't an upward move. He was already successful and famous as hell.

With that, it's time for a break with Hagar and his trusty Waboritas:


Amen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: formosan on January 03, 2025, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: Herman on January 03, 2025, 12:06:33 AMThis picture is of Eddie Van Halen and his mother taken in 1967. Lot of folks don't know it, but he was half Indonesian Chinese.
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/471997449_900779008924354_6598606554596131516_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600_tt6&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=WELFG-wV2kwQ7kNvgF6eTKZ&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&_nc_gid=A8SxrUOp__TmyJBv1C22TbV&oh=00_AYC5GCnJVuHZN8gT2u8qFwWhhpEsGUF4xbWrPdmYvlAUiA&oe=677D566A)
it doesn't look like a young Edward Van Halen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Brent on January 03, 2025, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 02, 2025, 09:52:49 PMHmmm, I'd have to do a re-listen and I'm far too lazy for that.  I do know that Eddie was hard to work with according to most. Even his wife left him because he was a jagoff.
From their first album with Roth to 5150, it hardly seemed like the same band anymore.

When AC/DC changed vocalists they maintained their musical style. That was not the case with Van Halen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Thiel on January 03, 2025, 04:16:12 PM
Drummer Alex Van Halen is an ordained minister.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 03, 2025, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: Thiel on January 03, 2025, 04:16:12 PMDrummer Alex Van Halen is an ordained minister.
What?
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Thiel on January 04, 2025, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: Herman on January 03, 2025, 07:21:23 PMWhat?
He presided at the second wedding of his brother Eddie Van Halen in 2009 and the second wedding of Valerie Bertinelli, who is now his ex-sister-in-law, in 2011.

I don't know which denomination.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Lokmar on January 24, 2025, 11:15:51 PM
Van Halen died after the 1984 album when DLR left. They had lightning in a bottle and let it go.

Sammy was ALWAYS better before AND after VH.

Van Hagar was the sappiest squishy love song bullshit ever. It was embarrassing. Women like it better and no wonder.

Van Halen was "Grab em by the pussy!". Van Hagar was "Lemme take of your shoes and rub your feet honey while I cut off my wang all for YOU!"

Fuk a bunch of Van Hagar! You like it? YOU'RE A BITCH!!! FACT!

Here's all you assholes need to know:
https://youtu.be/NjVbokE_cFA

vs

https://youtu.be/4uhMCzTvV9Y

FUKIN GAG!!!!
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Brent on January 25, 2025, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 02, 2025, 03:07:18 PMI'm with team Sammy.
Fine, but you cannot deny they became a different band after Roth.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: Brent on January 25, 2025, 02:36:25 PMFine, but you cannot deny they became a different band after Roth.

He's gay AF. He bought his woman a coin purse to carry his nuts around while they both sing Van Hagar. FACT!
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Brent on January 25, 2025, 02:49:11 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 02:47:20 PMHe's gay AF. He bought his woman a coin purse to carry his nuts around while they both sing Van Hagar. FACT!
Gay,or not a man, that does not change facts. VH was not VH after Roth.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2025, 03:36:59 PM
Quote from: Brent on January 25, 2025, 02:36:25 PMFine, but you cannot deny they became a different band after Roth.

Yeah, just like they became different with Gary Cherone.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Thiel on January 25, 2025, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2025, 03:36:59 PMYeah, just like they became different with Gary Cherone.
A terrible replacement.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2025, 03:36:59 PMYeah, just like they became different with Gary Cherone.

LOL! They became dogshit fukups with Gary Cherone!  :crampe:
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 25, 2025, 08:50:22 PM
Van Halen with any singer never had any go to albums for me.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: J E B Stuart on January 25, 2025, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: Herman on January 25, 2025, 08:50:22 PMVan Halen with any singer never had any go to albums for me.

I have this one. That's it:

(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/3679_25_01_25_9_00_52.jpeg)

Amen.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 25, 2025, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: J E B Stuart on January 25, 2025, 09:03:49 PMI have this one. That's it:

(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/3679_25_01_25_9_00_52.jpeg)

Amen.
I like a few songs by Van Halen. They were with Roth.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Herman on January 25, 2025, 08:50:22 PMVan Halen with any singer never had any go to albums for me.

I can relate. Theres a bunch of 80's bands I absolutely hate. I cant stand anything by Great White for example. Most songs from U2, Primus, Nirvana, Metallica, and some others I cant think of right now.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Herman on January 25, 2025, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 09:23:00 PMI can relate. Theres a bunch of 80's bands I absolutely hate. I cant stand anything by Great White for example. Most songs from U2, Primus, Nirvana, Metallica, and some others I cant think of right now.
Most of those bands for met too. I like some Metallica. I don't have any of their songs downloaded.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2025, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2025, 09:23:00 PMI can relate. Theres a bunch of 80's bands I absolutely hate. I cant stand anything by Great White for example. Most songs from U2, Primus, Nirvana, Metallica, and some others I cant think of right now.

The bands of the 80s I really hate are the hair bands (Jovi, Poison, Whitesnake, etc.).  They're the audio equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.
Title: Re: Sammy Hagar Or David Lee Roth-You Decide
Post by: Shen Li on January 25, 2025, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2025, 09:47:34 PMThe bands of the 80s I really hate are the hair bands (Jovi, Poison, Whitesnake, etc.).  They're the audio equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.
They looked like ladyboys.