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Title: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Conservative Perspective on May 05, 2025, 04:54:05 AM
Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in

With the REAL ID deadline days away, experts disagree on the balance between privacy and national security, with one telling Fox News Digital the protocol creates a de facto national ID.

Source: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/libertarians-like-ron-paul-warned-against-real-id-criticism-merited-experts-weigh)
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 09:31:18 AM
I'm just glad that I wont have to see niggeRs on planes anymore!!! Yanno, cause niggers cant get I.D.'s to vote!!! WOOT!

Real I.D., or as I like to call it: "Get these muthafukin niggas off this muthafukin plane!!"
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: DKG on May 05, 2025, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 09:31:18 AMI'm just glad that I wont have to see niggeRs on planes anymore!!! Yanno, cause niggers cant get I.D.'s to vote!!! WOOT!

Real I.D., or as I like to call it: "Get these muthafukin niggas off this muthafukin plane!!"
I'm not familiar with the issue.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Frood on May 05, 2025, 10:28:34 AM
That dumb cunt Pam Bondi has been pushing it.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: DKG on May 05, 2025, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 10:28:34 AMThat dumb cunt Pam Bondi has been pushing it.
I'll have to read about the issue before I will comment on it.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: DKG on May 05, 2025, 10:20:45 AMI'm not familiar with the issue.

As far as my comment, I'm intentionally conflating 2 issues. As you may have read before, dems are pushing back against voter I.D. laws because they say minorities will not be able to vote because they cant always get a state issued I.D. which is so fucking stupid on its face that I decided to make the equally stupid comment that I'm looking forward to niggers not being able to fly because they cant get I.D.'s let alone REAL I.D.'s.

Wouldnt you think that if "they" are protesting not being able to vote because of I.D.'s that "they" would also be up in arms about having an I.D. to fly?
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 10:28:34 AMThat dumb cunt Pam Bondi has been pushing it.

WUT? Real I.D. has been around for years and way before her. In fact, the deadlines came and went during BidenCo and Illinois became Real I.D. compliant under his term. Hell, I'm pretty sure the original bill passed 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Frood on May 05, 2025, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:00:22 PMWUT? Real I.D. has been around for years and way before her. In fact, the deadlines came and went during BidenCo and Illinois became Real I.D. compliant under his term. Hell, I'm pretty sure the original bill passed 20 years ago.

She's actually implementing it...or trying to. I hate that stupid cunt.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 12:04:07 PMShe's actually implementing it...or trying to. I hate that stupid cunt.

You do realize tho that its been implemented a shitload of times already which is why I've had the yellow JOO star on my Illinois ID for years now?
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Frood on May 05, 2025, 12:11:37 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:08:04 PMYou do realize tho that its been implemented a shitload of times already which is why I've had the yellow JOO star on my Illinois ID for years now?

Read up. It will soon be mandatory for airline travel and probably other forms of public transport.

Fuck that.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 12:11:37 PMRead up. It will soon be mandatory for airline travel and probably other forms of public transport.

Fuck that.

I've read it. Its doing what it was intended to do and while I dont like it, Pam Bondi isnt to blame.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Frood on May 05, 2025, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 12:54:16 PMI've read it. Its doing what it was intended to do and while I dont like it, Pam Bondi isnt to blame.

The fuck she ain't.

Dumb bitch is pushing national ID.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Thiel on May 05, 2025, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Conservative Perspective on May 05, 2025, 04:54:05 AMLibertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in

With the REAL ID deadline days away, experts disagree on the balance between privacy and national security, with one telling Fox News Digital the protocol creates a de facto national ID.

Source: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/libertarians-like-ron-paul-warned-against-real-id-criticism-merited-experts-weigh)
I am opposed.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 04:59:27 PM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 01:10:41 PMThe fuck she ain't.

Dumb bitch is pushing national ID.

DHS seems to be the enforcement authority behind Real I.D. The current head is Kristy Noem. Are you sure its not her you hate?  :popcorn:

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: JOE on May 05, 2025, 06:06:56 PM
They're gonna git yer finger prints, DNA & eye scans pretty soon...Lokmar!

Only free country left after Noem & Trump are through with America ...will be Canada...Bud!
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 06:29:29 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-finance-committee-1.6360769
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Frood on May 05, 2025, 08:37:16 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 04:59:27 PMDHS seems to be the enforcement authority behind Real I.D. The current head is Kristy Noem. Are you sure its not her you hate?  :popcorn:

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

You're right. I hate Kristy Noem AND Pam Bondi now. Those stupid slitches.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: Frood on May 05, 2025, 08:37:16 PMYou're right. I hate Kristy Noem AND Pam Bondi now. Those stupid slitches.

 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Glad I could help!!!
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: DKG on May 06, 2025, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on May 05, 2025, 11:58:42 AMdems are pushing back against voter I.D. laws because they say minorities will not be able to vote because they cant always get a state issued I.D. which is so fucking stupid on its face
And racist.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Oliver the Second on May 06, 2025, 10:15:54 AM

I got mine so long ago that it expires this year. Unlike the old Arizona drivers license which doesn't expire for 25 years this one only lasts 8 years. Handy little way to raise revenue eh?

First you need a certified copy of your birth certificate, this wasn't difficult but did take three months before I got it from the state I was born in. With a nice little service fee added of course.

Then since my old drivers license wasn't good enough down at the DMV I had to go get something notarized. I gather up the forms and go down to the notary. I give them the forms and they say "Let me see your ID" so they give them my old drivers license. They look at it, say "Okay" and notarize the forms.

So my old ID that wasn't good enough at the DMV was good enough for the notary to sign the papers which were then good enough for the DMV. :facepalm: 

Knowing the government I'll probably have to do it all again this year. Better get started now I guess.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: Brent on May 06, 2025, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 05, 2025, 06:06:56 PMThey're gonna git yer finger prints, DNA & eye scans pretty soon...Lokmar!

Only free country left after Noem & Trump are through with America ...will be Canada...Bud!
Our country freezes bank accounts and jails peaceful protestors.
Title: Re: Libertarians like Ron Paul warned against REAL ID — is the criticism merited? Experts weigh in
Post by: DKG on May 11, 2025, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on May 06, 2025, 10:15:54 AMI got mine so long ago that it expires this year. Unlike the old Arizona drivers license which doesn't expire for 25 years this one only lasts 8 years. Handy little way to raise revenue eh?

First you need a certified copy of your birth certificate, this wasn't difficult but did take three months before I got it from the state I was born in. With a nice little service fee added of course.

Then since my old drivers license wasn't good enough down at the DMV I had to go get something notarized. I gather up the forms and go down to the notary. I give them the forms and they say "Let me see your ID" so they give them my old drivers license. They look at it, say "Okay" and notarize the forms.

So my old ID that wasn't good enough at the DMV was good enough for the notary to sign the papers which were then good enough for the DMV. :facepalm: 

Knowing the government I'll probably have to do it all again this year. Better get started now I guess.
I had to go through something like this when my mother died.

I came to Canada when I was a baby. I have copies of my parents' original landing papers. Not enough for the banks but enough for a notary of the public who signed them(for $250) and then miraculously it was enough for the bank to release my portion of my inheritance.