THeBlueCashew

This was written by a gal named Kim Rose after returning from a visit to family in Ontario.

Why does Alberta want to separate?

Answer: 
The primary reason is taxation without representation. Alberta continues to pay millions of dollars to provinces like Ontario and Quebec without equal representation at the table in Ottawa. Would you want to give a large portion of your pay cheque without a voice as to how you spend your money?  Imagine you work 40 hours a week, bring home 500 dollars to have your mom take a huge percentage give it to your brothers and sisters and you don't even get to choose an item for dinner at the grocery store?  This may be a very simplistic view but it is very similar.

Alberta continues to pay large equalization payments and yet due to the skewed way our electoral system is set up we have very few seats to sit in Ottawa. Alberta holds 9.6% of the seats yet we PAY over 9 billion dollars a year in payments and receive ZERO in equalization payments and Ontario holds 34% of the seats and pays ZERO but RECEIVES 546 MILLION dollars?  Why should a fairly fiscally (we aren't perfect) responsible Province continue to be the "bank" for the province in Canada with the most votes while our voices are not welcomed nor heard? Why are we constantly being asked to contribute as an adult but forced to sit at the kids table?  We are a province without a sales tax and yet we still manage to support a huge portion of the population of Canada.

So please when you think Albertans are whiny rednecks, just remember Alberta pays a lot of bills to keep the lights on in this country and all we are asking for is fair treatment but we feel the rest of the nation just wants to keep their hands out and neglect the hard working people of our province. Many of us do want a Canada that includes Alberta, but unless things change, many of us will be marking our referendum ballot with a very strong yes. Not for separation but FOR Alberta!  I may have been born and raised in Ontario but I am now a true blue Albertan with dusty boots and yes I am a proud whiny redneck.

Kim is right, but it is only part of the reason. We prairie folk ain't allowed to develop our own resources and make our folks richer like other provinces can.

Ottawa, and I mean the Liberals steps on the exclusive jurisdictions of Edmonton and Regina. They do not do that to Toronto, Quebec City or St Johns. Just our prairie provinces. It's unconstituional, but the Liberals don't care.

Ottawa's new law for provinces opting out of pension plan.
Freedom is closing doors on Alberta and Saskatchewan.
If passed, Bill C-387 would require a province leaving the CPP to receive support from two-thirds of the country's premiers..
Now you see why the 51st state makes sense

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That is the only pipeline that should be shut down.

Canada is a small market...
 Alberta's exports represent 53.1% of its Gross Domestic Product ($344.7 billion for 2024).
Given Alberta's population of 4.9 million people, its total CDN$183.2 billion in 2024 exports translates to roughly $37,500 for every resident.
** The following list shows the top 10 customers that purchased 96.4% worth of the total value of products exported from the province of Alberta during 2024:
•  United States: CDN$162.1 billion (88.5% of Alberta's total exports)
• mainland China: $6.7 billion (3.7%)
• Japan: $2.7 billion (1.5%)
• South Korea: $1.2 billion (0.6%)
• Mexico: $792.9 million (0.4%)
• Peru: $771.6 million (0.4%)
• Singapore: $668.5 million (0.4%)
• India: $620.1 million (0.3%)
• Hong Kong: $553.9 million (0.3%)
• Netherlands: $523.9 million (0.3%)
  Source:
https://www.worldstopexports.com/albertas-top-exports/
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Canada is screwed.
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Alberta will never reach its full potential within Canada. Not as it's structured, & not even if it could be restructured.
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Quote from: Herman on June 17, 2025, 06:37:34 PMCanada is screwed.
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Public debt is bad. Unlike the US, we will have to pay it back.

But, what alarms me the most is how indebted Canadians are. We carry the highest consumer debt in the world.

Vancouver MP and NDP Interim leader introduced a bill that would ban oil and gas from the grid in less than five years.

Make no mistake, Conman Carney supports this shit that would make your energy bills unaffordable and your spotty at best.

Executive summary:
An independent Alberta would reshape its fiscal and environmental landscape by retaining $68-75 billion in annual federal tax contribution, yielding a net gain of $44-47 billion after accounting for $22-26 billion in federal transfer.

Combined with provincial revenues of $74.1 billion (2025-26) and an Alberta Pension Plan (APP) generating $23.34 billion annually from a $183.7 billion asset base, total revenue reach $142.1-149.1 billion.
Expenditures, including $75.3 billion for provincial services and $22.7- 31.6 billion to replace federal service ( e.g. defense, policing, Indigenous service), total $98-106.9 billion, with one-time setup costs of $2.8-5.7 billion.

This results in a fiscal surplus of $29.4 -48.3 billion (excluding setup) or $23.6-45.5 billion ( including setup), enabling significant tax reductions, infrastructure investment, and debt reduction.
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The Alberta premier knows there are many people who voted for her UCP, the party she leads, the party governing Alberta, who would cast a Yes vote for Alberta leaving Canada if they had a referendum ballot in their hand today.

They are not all separatists.

More than a few are just sick and tired of Liberal Ottawa not listening to Alberta, not taking Alberta seriously, not dealing with long-standing legitimate grievances.

They would vote Yes as the last and loudest attempt to get through the thick skulls of those calling the shots down east in the Carney cocoon.

"I hope he takes the separatist sentiment as seriously as I do," says Smith on Tuesday in Calgary.

Yes, Smith does say the reason for the rise in separatist feeling is because of bad policies cooked up in Liberal Ottawa and thrown in Alberta's face.

She mentions the bad policies every time she talks to Carney. She tells him to get rid of them and investors will invest and take on major projects.

Crickets from Carney.

This is an eye opener.
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Imagine an Alberta that Separated in 1975 and invested 50 years of Quebec Equalization in Alberta?

What would the $600 Billion lost be worth today if properly invested in Alberta and Albertans?

While Canadian media remains silent, CNN just published an in-depth feature on Alberta's independence movement (last week they made the headlines in the Wall Street Journal), showcasing the growing momentum to a global audience.

"In oil-rich Alberta, where a movement for independence from Canada appears to be gathering steam..." the article begins, highlighting the rallies, the supporters, and momentum.

CNN reports that "a third of Albertans currently support independence" - a number that continues to climb as more citizens recognize the possibilities of sovereignty.

Old Herman is so embarrassed by the leadership of this country. Let's go independent now. We don't need this kind of crap anymore. I am so frickin tired of prog bullshit.
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I don't know how you all cope in a country that is frozen for a large part of the year.

Quote from: caskur on June 28, 2025, 06:38:18 PMI don't know how you all cope in a country that is frozen for a large part of the year.

It was tolerable when Canada was prosperous and free. We used to have GDP/capita equal to the US. Now it's way less.

Quality immigrants don't want to settle permanently in Canada. Young Canadians and immigrants already here are leaving for greener pastutes like I did.

Canada will be a 3rd world country in 15 years thanks to libtards.

Quote from: Shen Li on June 28, 2025, 08:09:34 PMIt was tolerable when Canada was prosperous and free. We used to have GDP/capita equal to the US. Now it's way less.

Quality immigrants don't want to settle permanently in Canada. Young Canadians and immigrants already here are leaving for greener pastutes like I did.

Canada will be a 3rd world country in 15 years thanks to libtards.

Have you acclimatised to Singapore's weather yet Shen? It would be less humid atm.

 

We having chilly temps but fairly warm days.

Quote from: caskur on June 28, 2025, 10:00:45 PMHave you acclimatised to Singapore's weather yet Shen? It would be less humid atm.

 

Oh ya. Having a pool really helps.

I'm still getting the flu more often than I did in Canada. Every building has the AC blasting and then you go outside in the humid air.
 
We only turn on the AC at night. The rest of the time we use fans only.

Quote from: caskur on June 28, 2025, 10:03:16 PMWe having chilly temps but fairly warm days.

It's 33 degrees here.

Quote from: Shen Li on June 29, 2025, 01:26:55 AMIt's 33 degrees here.

It's the middle of winter here, minimum is 12 and maximum will be 20. That's a heat wave in Canada....lol

I thought it might be less humid in Singapore this time of year but according to you, it's not.

At the top of Australia we have 2 seasons, one is the dry and the other is the wet season... both are hot but the wet season is humidity from hell. It's also called Troppo. Or going Troppo and it means the wet season sends people troppo or Mad.

There are more germs around in hot climates.... keep plenty of Isocol (rubbing alcohol antiseptic) around and any cut skin put some on.

Quote from: Shen Li on June 28, 2025, 08:09:34 PMIt was tolerable when Canada was prosperous and free. We used to have GDP/capita equal to the US. Now it's way less.

Quality immigrants don't want to settle permanently in Canada. Young Canadians and immigrants already here are leaving for greener pastutes like I did.

Canada will be a 3rd world country in 15 years thanks to libtards.

To give an analogy that caskur can relate to, Canada is like New Zealand. That country brings in a lot of immigrants relative to it's population. Most leave when they get a NZ passport. Too many NZ born young people do the same. Most go to Australia, just like most Canadians that leave choose the US.

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Quote from: caskur on June 29, 2025, 03:20:34 AMAt the top of Australia we have 2 seasons, one is the dry and the other is the wet season... both are hot but the wet season is humidity from hell.

That is SG.

Quote from: caskur on June 29, 2025, 03:20:34 AMIt's the middle of winter here, minimum is 12 and maximum will be 20. That's a heat wave in Canada....lol

You'd be surprised; Ottawa in the summertime it isn't uncommon to see temperatures in the mid thirties. Coupled with the humidity (there's a lot of surface water in the Ottawa Valley) and it's comparable to 42 in Melbourne in terms of comfort. You get an hour or more daylight in the summer there, that goes a long way to heating things up.

The winters are something else, especially on sunny days. With no cloud cover to trap the heat, it can regularly drop to 20-30 degrees below freezing, with wind chill making it feel more like minus 40. I've managed jeans and a tee shirt at minus five with no wind chill for ten minutes without trouble, I've also made the mistake of looking out the window, seeing blue skies and forgetting my parka on the way out the door. It... well, it takes your breath away, that much I can promise you. Rugging up is really the only defence you have and even then, a stiff wind and that chill goes straight to the marrow. And it can fucken hurt like a motherfucker.

And that's in a relatively temperate part of Canada. I shudder to think how bad it must get out in the prairies or the maritimes, never mind heading up to the Artic circle. Appreciate that and you also appreciate the kind of ratbag animal that turds like Carney and Trudeau are for insisting on green energy solutions where fossil fuel makes far more sense.

Quote from: caskur on June 29, 2025, 03:20:34 AMAt the top of Australia we have 2 seasons, one is the dry and the other is the wet season...

Canada has two seasons too... "winter" and "construction". Because you can't do a lot of building when the ground is frozen solid. Swing a mattock at the ground in winter and it's akin to trying to pickaxe your way through concrete. And speaking of concrete, that stuff gets brittle and rots if left unprotected (as does terracotta) so if you've any planters it's generally a good idea to store them in a barn or a garage.

You would like the sunsets I think. Less orange than you are used to, more of a pinkish/blue colour cast. And the autumn.... mile after mile of red and golden leafed maple trees. No photo does it justice, though I know that wouldn't stop you from trying.

But a word of advice; if by any chance you get to travel there before the liberals well and truly fuck it up, try to avoid the city snow melts at the beginning of spring. Black snow turning to brown slush, revealing the months of accumulated trash and dogshit. It's not the greatest of experiences, lol.

Quote from: DKG on June 29, 2025, 10:13:08 AMTo give an analogy that caskur can relate to, Canada is like New Zealand. That country brings in a lot of immigrants relative to it's population. Most leave when they get a NZ passport. Too many NZ born young people do the same. Most go to Australia, just like most Canadians that leave choose the US.

New Zealand is very expensive. Mainly their realestate. AND THEY talk funny...

They seem to mix up their e and i ..

So when the say six it sounds like sex.

And when they say sex, it sounds like six.

It's very strange.

Quote from: caskur on June 30, 2025, 11:13:09 AMNew Zealand is very expensive. Mainly their realestate. AND THEY talk funny...

They seem to mix up their e and i ..

So when the say six it sounds like sex.

And when they say sex, it sounds like six.

It's very strange.

I've heard just about everything is more expensive in NZ than Australia. And NZ wages are lower than Australia too because their productivity is lower.

That is Canada compared to the US. It is more expensive to live here and we have lower salaries because our productivity is so much lower.

Quote from: DKG on July 01, 2025, 11:01:44 AMI've heard just about everything is more expensive in NZ than Australia. And NZ wages are lower than Australia too because their productivity is lower.

That is Canada compared to the US. It is more expensive to live here and we have lower salaries because our productivity is so much lower.

I'm shocked that the cucknadian dollar is worth about $0.50 british pounds! I would think tourism and business from the U.K. would have helped your economy weather anything!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 01, 2025, 11:57:23 AMI'm shocked that the cucknadian dollar is worth about $0.50 british pounds! I would think tourism and business from the U.K. would have helped your economy weather anything!

Tourism does not butter Canada's bread. Resource extraction does and the Liberals are blocking that.

Quote from: DKG on July 01, 2025, 11:01:44 AMI've heard just about everything is more expensive in NZ than Australia. And NZ wages are lower than Australia too because their productivity is lower.

That is Canada compared to the US. It is more expensive to live here and we have lower salaries because our productivity is so much lower.

The difference between New Zealand and Canada is that we should be the richest country in the world. But, globalists like the entire Liberal party are engineering our collapse.

Quote from: Brent on July 01, 2025, 01:16:29 PMThe difference between New Zealand and Canada is that we should be the richest country in the world. But, globalists like the entire Liberal party are engineering our collapse.

They are. We have to stop them.

Every Albertan needs to know the cost of being Canadian.
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Some of this person's reasons I share. However, it is the loss of prosperity in Canada that is the main reason we pulled the pin on the sinking Canadian ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xa6apF6T0g

Hey you Canadian Haters, what's the real reason Alberta Separatists want to leave Canada?

So they can join the United States?

America is $37 Trillion in debt. No wonder the MAGA supporters encourage Alberta to separate. Because the USA is broke & the only way the can create another American century is to obtain a cheap & plentiful source of oil.

Danielle Smith is willing to sell out Alberta to these interests to benefit a few. Not Albertans or especially Canada.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 07, 2025, 01:40:38 AMSome of this person's reasons I share. However, it is the loss of prosperity in Canada that is the main reason we pulled the pin on the sinking Canadian ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xa6apF6T0g

I am considering living in Florida year round instead of six months a year when I retire. And I am considering moving that date earlier by a couple of years.

I really like what the Sunshine state is doing in terms of freedom, spending and taxation. I don't really like much of anything fake conservative Doug Ford is doing. His opponents in the last provincial election were even worse.

Most of all I like that US states are asserting their jusrisdiction even when the Dems are in power and trying to usurp state's rights. Canada's premiers with the exception of Scott Moe and Danielle Smith seem happy to hand over provincial autonomy to Ottawa.

Any Americans thinking of taking a vacay in Canada this summer.
You guys have the money. Look at going to another country.
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Quote from: JOE on July 07, 2025, 09:39:38 AMHey you Canadian Haters, what's the real reason Alberta Separatists want to leave Canada?

So they can join the United States?

America is $37 Trillion in debt. No wonder the MAGA supporters encourage Alberta to separate. Because the USA is broke & the only way the can create another American century is to obtain a cheap & plentiful source of oil.

Danielle Smith is willing to sell out Alberta to these interests to benefit a few. Not Albertans or especially Canada.

We have guns and Trump. PWN3D!

Quote from: Lokmar on July 07, 2025, 02:39:46 PMWe have guns and Trump. PWN3D!

And jobs that pay a livable salary.

The Liberals destroyed Canada's immigration system with their radical policies and incompetent management.
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An independent Alberta could :
• Eliminate ALL personal income taxes
• Cut the GST
• Fund world-class healthcare and education
• Build a $1 trillion Heritage Fund by 2045

This isn't fantasy - it's math.

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Canada is sinking, fast.
Dragged down by a failed ideology, mass immigration, and a collapsing economy.
Alberta and Saskatchewan do not have to go down with the ship.
It's time to save ourselves.
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Even if Alberta and Saskatchewan secede I hope they ise the US dollar as their currency.

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Just think how rich the prairies would be without Canaduh.  :yeahhh:

Now think how poor Canaduh would be without the prairie provinces.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 14, 2025, 08:38:01 PMEven if Alberta and Saskatchewan secede I hope they ise the US dollar as their currency.

...and a lotta people from the Prairies would hate it too because many of their benefits would be cut.

Secession is a 1%er's dream Shen Li Shen

They only want to enrich themselves at every other Westerner's expense.

Quote from: Shen Li on July 15, 2025, 08:43:14 PMJust think how rich the prairies would be without Canaduh.  :yeahhh:

Now think how poor Canaduh would be without the prairie provinces.

And a united Canada would be much wealthier if the federal Liberals would put Canadians first and help the prairies develop their riches instead of blocking it.

Quote from: DKG on July 16, 2025, 09:46:00 AMAnd a united Canada would be much wealthier if the federal Liberals would put Canadians first and help the prairies develop their riches instead of blocking it.

Keeping C-69, the industrial emissions ceiling, the Impact Assessment, C-48 means Conman Carney aint having it. Giving a veto to any one province and Indians was the final nail in the coffin for Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Quote from: DKG on July 16, 2025, 09:46:00 AMAnd a united Canada would be much wealthier if the federal Liberals would put Canadians first and help the prairies develop their riches instead of blocking it.

The Liberal Party of Canada's base is now old whites. Old white Canadians are selfish assholes who don't give a fuck if the current and future generations suffer because of their votes. Another reason why I don't want my sons growing up in that future third world hole.

Last year, the federal government spent more on interest charges than it sent to the provinces for health care.

What would your family do with an extra $11,240 every year?

That's what the average Alberta household would save through tax reductions if we became independent.

The math is simple: Alberta sends $68-75 BILLION (just in federal taxes) to Ottawa annually but gets only $22-26 billion back.

Not only would independence mean lower taxes, it would mean lower pension contributions, reduced tuition costs, and enhanced healthcare.

Quote from: Herman on July 16, 2025, 10:15:09 PMLast year, the federal government spent more on interest charges than it sent to the provinces for health care.

Canadian health care was already unsustainable. No province will be able to afford the current way we pay for health care in the coming years. This will speed up the demise of our health care model. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

Quote from: DKG on July 17, 2025, 10:20:16 AMCanadian health care was already unsustainable. No province will be able to afford the current way we pay for health care in the coming years. This will speed up the demise of our health care model. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

I'm sure some excuse will be made at some point to tax the citizenry more to prop it up. Along with the creation of more bureaucracy to ensure the money gets spent "wisely", just look at Britain's NHS.

Quote from: DKG on July 17, 2025, 10:20:16 AMCanadian health care was already unsustainable. No province will be able to afford the current way we pay for health care in the coming years. This will speed up the demise of our health care model. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

I do not care anymore if it is the government or private companies delivering health care so long as we can access it when we need it. We cannot do that anymore.

Time to cut the free loaders loose. Imagine what we could do in Alberta and Saskatchewan with all the money that is extracted from us.
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Quote from: Herman on July 17, 2025, 06:36:38 PMI do not care anymore if it is the government or private companies delivering health care so long as we can access it when we need it. We cannot do that anymore.

We all know a competing private health care system is inevitable to save public health care.

Quote from: DKG on July 18, 2025, 10:08:02 AMWe all know a competing private health care system is inevitable to save public health care.

I do not give a shit who delivers health care as long as it is there when we need it. About on in four Canadians cannot access health care because they cannot find a doctor. Tens of thousands of Canadians are dying every year waiting for surgeries.

We spend a fortune on health care. For Christ sake fix it now and stop playing games.

Quote from: Herman on July 18, 2025, 03:16:10 PMI do not give a shit who delivers health care as long as it is there when we need it. About on in four Canadians cannot access health care because they cannot find a doctor. Tens of thousands of Canadians are dying every year waiting for surgeries.

We spend a fortune on health care. For Christ sake fix it now and stop playing games.

As long as there is always public health care. I used to have a problem with private competition, but that is what all developed countries with better health care delivery than Canada have.

Ottawa has blocked new pipelines (C–69), canceled multiple oil and gas projects, capped oil and gas production, and banned ships needed to carry Alberta resources to various overseas markets (C-48; Smith, 2025).  A list of the cancelled projects can be found in the article, "Billions lost in ditched resource projects," (Resource Works, 2025) where they cite the loss of $670 Billion since 2015 (Canada Action, 2024).

Yet, the expectancy for Alberta to still contribute the same amount of money to Ottawa for personal income tax and Equalization payments remains the same.

Quote from: Herman on July 21, 2025, 02:26:03 PM...the expectancy for Alberta to still contribute the same amount of money to Ottawa for personal income tax and Equalization payments remains the same.

Of course it is. And it will for as long as your premier continues to negotiate a solution with Ottawa.

I've told you before. AB and SK need to be independent of Canada. You know this to be true. I don't give a red raw shit how much praise you sing for the efforts of your premier, if they aren't 100% behind getting your province the fuck out of Dodge, you need representation from someone that is.

Quote from: . on July 23, 2025, 06:33:06 AMOf course it is. And it will for as long as your premier continues to negotiate a solution with Ottawa.

I've told you before. AB and SK need to be independent of Canada. You know this to be true. I don't give a red raw shit how much praise you sing for the efforts of your premier, if they aren't 100% behind getting your province the fuck out of Dodge, you need representation from someone that is.

Even if premiers Moe and Smith sectretly support independence for their provinces, it would be political suicide for them to endorse it.

Quote from: DKG on July 23, 2025, 09:36:39 AMEven if premiers Moe and Smith sectretly support independence for their provinces, it would be political suicide for them to endorse it.

How? I was under the impression they were there by popular vote, by a populace who were largely in favour of "getting the fuck out of Dodge".

Assuming all of the above were true, the only reason you could expect me to believe that it would be political suicide for them to openly support secession would be if Alberta and Saskatchewan were largely comprised of retards that would happily vote against what they had been openly clamouring for.

I'd call such behaviour illogical, but maybe it makes sense to keener intellects than mine.

Maybe those keener intellects can be found in the CBC or the Toronto Star?

Quote from: . on July 25, 2025, 05:16:51 AMHow? I was under the impression they were there by popular vote, by a populace who were largely in favour of "getting the fuck out of Dodge".

Assuming all of the above were true, the only reason you could expect me to believe that it would be political suicide for them to openly support secession would be if Alberta and Saskatchewan were largely comprised of retards that would happily vote against what they had been openly clamouring for.

I'd call such behaviour illogical, but maybe it makes sense to keener intellects than mine.

Maybe those keener intellects can be found in the CBC or the Toronto Star?

Herman will know more about this than I will.

My understanding is that almost all of the separatist support on the prairies is in rural areas. And it's often soft support. If Carney would reverse some Trudeau era rules as well as his own consensus rule and we got a private company to build a pipeline to tidewater, support for separation would drop. 

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Quote from: DKG on July 25, 2025, 10:24:05 AMIf Carney would reverse some Trudeau era rules as well as his own consensus rule and we got a private company to build a pipeline to tidewater, support for separation would drop. 

A big "if", particularly given recent passage of certain bills, but no matter. While libtard support is traditionally vested in population centers. it has been my understanding that more people in the aforementioned provinces favour a release from all ties to Wellington Street (and all that entails) than the group of political masochists that don't. And do feel free to correct me if I am in error.

Moreover, the practice of lying to the public and getting fucked over for ones troubles is getting old. Especially when it is hitting the hip pocket so overtly as it is in AB and SK. I would (and have) argued that grossly obscene equalization payments in return for fuck all remuneration in infrastructure that would reward the electorate has got to be a pretty sizeable bone sticking in the craw of most people out that way. More so when so many are finding their backs to the wall. Then again I have noted that the lion's share of Canadians are too damn nice for their own good, preferring instead to go along to get along. Meaning that Alberta's and Saskatchewan's dreams of a better outcome are doomed to Fail. I believe Herman and I have had discussions where I have alluded to this. I know I have expressed skepticism about the alacrity of both provinces making good on cutting their ties to the onerous arrangement currently in play with the federal government, something which you appear to be assuring me is the case.

It's a damn shame, because if any provinces could leave the jurisdiction of Canada at large AND make a fist of it post-secession, it would be Alberta and Saskatchewan. And I will not sugarcoat it, the only way it's going to happen is if a majority of voters in that area stop pussyfooting the fuck around and start acting (and voting) in their best interests.

Otherwise this whole independence schtick is as doomed to fail as Quebec's was.

Which would suck no end of ass, but there it is. I love a good underdog fight, hell... America loves a good underdog fight. And putting ones faith in mealy mouthed fuckwads that cannot openly commit to a popular cause is NOT the way for an underdog to come out on top. As I said back at the beginning, the provinces and their peoples will go a long way to promoting themselves as a valuable inclusion to the US if they actually fight for it. Not rolling over for the representatives they voted for to sashay on in and treat them and their wishlists like doormats.

The lord helps those that help themselves. Or (as Frank Zappa once wrote), the meek shall inherit nothing.

Right now, the average Albertan making $78,000 a year takes home just $44,400 after federal taxes. And that's before factoring in federal transfers, regulatory costs, and decaying economic conditions.

Canadians now spend more on taxes than they do on food, housing, and clothing combined — according to the Fraser Institute's 2024 Canadian Consumer Tax Index.

Under a restructured, independent Alberta model, you could keep $70,000 or more of that same income and we could go on to eliminate income taxes completely within 5 years.

No Ottawa grab. No bloated bureaucracy. Just a flat, local tax — and real control over your future.

Not wishful thinking — a realistic plan backed by Alberta's wealth.
Independence means more freedom, more opportunity, and keeping what's yours.
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Canada is a failed state that has worked against the interests of citizens.
It's time for Alberta and Saskatchewan to form a new nation.
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