The Canadian dream is over. The Liberal Party has Canada facing economic and social collapse soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuB8htLHViI&t=83s
Only 28% of parents in Canada believe their kids will be better off than they are. That figure says it all.
Canada is looking like the former very rich Argentina, only worse and with problems Argie didn't have.
I am one of the 110,000 highly skilled people who emigrated permanently from Canada last year. That annual number will only grow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDKtbVzsp2I
Quote from: Shen Li on July 02, 2025, 07:41:25 PMOnly 28% of parents in Canada believe their kids will be better off than they are. That figure says it all.
Canada is looking like the former very rich Argentina, only worse and with problems Argie didn't have.
That's probably most countries these days
Shen Li
Shen.
Quote from: JOE on July 02, 2025, 07:43:29 PMThat's probably most countries these days Shen Li
Shen.
Nope, just your collapsing country.
Canada's GDP/capita in 10 years soared from $53K to $55k. Fucking pathetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-immoXcOkg
I'll be in Canada in August to celebrate Mom's b-day and to sign some legal papers. My guess is that Canada will look like Nigeria after living in a truly 1st world nation for 17 months.
Quote from: Shen Li on July 02, 2025, 09:02:55 PMI'll be in Canada in August to celebrate Mom's b-day and to sign some legal papers. My guess is that Canada will look like Nigeria after living in a truly 1st world nation for 17 months.
I'm so glad I'm a Canadian citizen born & raised in Canada
Shen Li
Shen.
It's a Good Country.
Lokmar knows it too!
Quote from: Shen Li on July 02, 2025, 09:02:55 PMI'll be in Canada in August to celebrate Mom's b-day and to sign some legal papers. My guess is that Canada will look like Nigeria after living in a truly 1st world nation for 17 months.
I won't. It breaks my heart to see what has befallen Canuckistan and I have no desire to revisit that economic corpse to have my nose rubbed in what it's become. Let JoHoMo cheer its demise. At least he knows they'll execute him through lethal injection when even he cannot stomach the collapse any longer.
Fuxake, Canada could have been something more than merely the next "real socialism hasn't been tried yet" bucket of Fail.
Quote from: JOE on July 03, 2025, 12:12:16 AMI'm so glad I'm a Canadian citizen born & raised in Canada Shen Li
Shen.
It's a Good Country.
Lokmar knows it too!
You are in denial or UR trolling. The signs of Canada's decay are all around. Soaring crime rates, rampant drug use, mass homelessness/poverty, inability to get ahead, and government crackdowns on liberty/internet.
I live in a first world nation that makes your country look like some African toilet. I could never live in Canada again. That would be a major step backwards.
Here is Ottawa. But, that is also Edmonton, Vancouver, Toronto, Halifax and so on. Canada's downfall was by design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3oTjFjgoGI
Quote from: Shen Li on July 03, 2025, 07:13:33 AMHere is Ottawa. But, that is also Edmonton, Vanacouver, Toronto, Halifax and so on. Canada's downfall was by design.
Damn Shen, that's horrible. I used to live a two minute walk from Bank and Somerset (the intersection seen at 11 minutes 26 seconds), the Independent was my local grocery store. Even when I moved into the area nearly fifteen years ago the warning signs were there that shit was getting real bad. For instance, the three story red brick building opposite the intersection was unoccupied, being little more than a facade after a Jewish Stocktake* gutted the place previously. Very obvious when you walked up the laneway behind it; there is literally no building behind the facia that you see in the video. It's been that way since Harper's time in office, maybe even Chretien's, I'm not sure.
A little further along that side of Bank Street and you get to Barrymores. Once the venue a lot of internationally known name acts would play when they passed through Ottawa, it had long closed by the time I had arrived (though they did reopen while I was there, albeit for burlesque shows on an infrequent basis with part of the building converted to a sex toy and fetishwear shop. And for what it's worth, that was before Truedeaup came to power.
I left Canada a little over five years ago now. I still recognise a good many of the places that guy visited on his drive through Gatineau, Hull and Ottawa and it's definitely gotten a lot worse in my absence. I don't think I could ever return - too heartbreaking to see the rot spreading through its core. I certainly wouldn't bother to set up a small business in the area; I recognised only a handful of businesses that weren't big names on his crawl down Bank Street for instance, the others are simply gone, replaced with an ever shrinking entourage of hopefuls that will likely be bankrupt of defunct in 12 months time.
Depressing. At least I got to see it before it went to total shit I guess.
oh, nearly forgot....
* - Jewish Stocktake.... a colloquial reference for a deliberate arson attempt aimed at collecting insurance. Certainly the owner of the building was dragging his feet on renovating and letting out the space for business use, it was more economical for him to write it off as a tax loss each year instead.
Quote from: . on July 03, 2025, 08:32:24 AMDamn Shen, that's horrible. I used to live a two minute walk from Bank and Somerset (the intersection seen at 11 minutes 26 seconds), the Independent was my local grocery store. Even when I moved into the area nearly fifteen years ago the warning signs were there that shit was getting real bad. For instance, the three story red brick building opposite the intersection was unoccupied, being little more than a facade after a Jewish Stocktake* gutted the place previously. Very obvious when you walked up the laneway behind it; there is literally no building behind the facia that you see in the video. It's been that way since Harper's time in office, maybe even Chretien's, I'm not sure.
A little further along that side of Bank Street and you get to Barrymores. Once the venue a lot of internationally known name acts would play when they passed through Ottawa, it had long closed by the time I had arrived (though they did reopen while I was there, albeit for burlesque shows on an infrequent basis with part of the building converted to a sex toy and fetishwear shop. And for what it's worth, that was before Truedeaup came to power.
I left Canada a little over five years ago now. I still recognise a good many of the places that guy visited on his drive through Gatineau, Hull and Ottawa and it's definitely gotten a lot worse in my absence. I don't think I could ever return - too heartbreaking to see the rot spreading through its core. I certainly wouldn't bother to set up a small business in the area; I recognised only a handful of businesses that weren't big names on his crawl down Bank Street for instance, the others are simply gone, replaced with an ever shrinking entourage of hopefuls that will likely be bankrupt of defunct in 12 months time.
Depressing. At least I got to see it before it went to total shit I guess.
I live in Barrie and I do not know Ottawa. Toronto is a write-off. Even other big cities in Southern cities like London, Hamilton, Kitchener and Windsor are too. This will only get worse with Carney's ICE car ban in nine years. Goodbye auto sector jobs.
Quote from: . on July 03, 2025, 12:52:21 AMI won't. It breaks my heart to see what has befallen Canuckistan and I have no desire to revisit that economic corpse to have my nose rubbed in what it's become. Let JoHoMo cheer its demise. At least he knows they'll execute him through lethal injection when even he cannot stomach the collapse any longer.
Fuxake, Canada could have been something more than merely the next "real socialism hasn't been tried yet" bucket of Fail.
Joe is in his seventies and has no stake in Canada's future. I am sickened by what the Liberal Party has done to my country.
Quote from: DKG on July 03, 2025, 10:27:26 AMJoe is in his seventies and has no stake in Canada's future. I am sickened by what the Liberal Party has done to my country.
The last thing I want to do is discuss politics....BUT, the negative changes in Canada's social fabric happened under the federal Liberals.
Quote from: formosan on July 03, 2025, 11:15:59 AMThe last thing I want to do is discuss politics....BUT, the negative changes in Canada's social fabric happened under the federal Liberals.
You haven't seen anything yet. By the time I am done with Canada, Toronto and Vancouver will look like Calcutta and Karachi.
Quote from: formosan on July 03, 2025, 11:15:59 AMThe last thing I want to do is discuss politics....BUT, the negative changes in Canada's social fabric happened under the federal Liberals.
No kidding.
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The brain drain is picking up. Canadians with the skills are doing what I did and emigrating. They have no confidence in their country anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-immoXcOkg&t=616s
Canadians are among the most indebted people in the entire G20. They also have the lowest economic growth and the least amount of investment. This is a recipe for an inevitable crash.
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NEW FEDERAL REPORT LINKS IMMIGRATION TO RISING HOUSING COSTS
Statistics Canada and IRCC confirm a direct correlation between recent immigration and housing price increases especially in Canada's largest cities.
So it turns out the government of Canada just released a report — and it's not from some conspiracy blog or partisan think tank. No, this is from the Trudeau government's own bureaucrats at Statistics Canada and Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. What does it say? Well, it quietly admits that something many of us have known for years and were called racists, bigots, and extremists for saying out loud is actually true: mass immigration has directly caused housing prices to skyrocket in Canada.
They crunched the numbers, ran the models, and here's what they found: from 2006 to 2021, a sharp increase in new immigrants people arriving within the last five years — was tied to an 11% increase in both house prices and rents across municipalities. Eleven percent. And in big cities like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal? That number jumps to 21%. Rents up 13%. Those aren't theories. That's what happened.
And here's the really shocking part: more than 80% of those new immigrants ended up in just 53 municipalities. So if you're living in a city, if you're a working-class Canadian trying to buy your first home, raise your family, or maybe just rent an apartment that doesn't bankrupt you, you're paying the price literally for Ottawa's immigration agenda.
But wait, this is where it gets worse. This wasn't a mistake. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't just a side effect of some well-meaning policy gone wrong. This is the design. Trudeau and his successor, Mark Carney — yes, the former Goldman Sachs banker turned Liberal savior — engineered this. You import millions of people, you restrict supply, you choke development with red tape, and then you act surprised when prices go through the roof?
You know who benefits from this? Not the young couple trying to buy their first condo in Mississauga. Not the plumber in Surrey trying to get out of his parents' basement. No, the winners are real estate investors, developers, corporate landlords — and the Liberal Party, which gets a permanent bloc of voters hooked on big government. Everyone else? They get crushed.
Quote from: Herman on July 03, 2025, 10:22:40 PM(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/515496173_737048622201929_8473548963686237245_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s565x565_tt6&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=J5mL1w6e914Q7kNvwF7s_Lv&_nc_oc=AdmtnjsQeyMMCPDE0_k0i8fuNq564qs_91JyPwU8dYe0wDeVU-3E-Ug88796OXu2Jgs&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&_nc_gid=jVRHMZz_ztV1EMv6pzTKUg&oh=00_AfPNeJbyyy8hb7T66fOz47dmgROlgQE60SXL55BD4xgF5g&oe=686D1DBF)
NEW FEDERAL REPORT LINKS IMMIGRATION TO RISING HOUSING COSTS
Statistics Canada and IRCC confirm a direct correlation between recent immigration and housing price increases especially in Canada's largest cities.
So it turns out the government of Canada just released a report — and it's not from some conspiracy blog or partisan think tank. No, this is from the Trudeau government's own bureaucrats at Statistics Canada and Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. What does it say? Well, it quietly admits that something many of us have known for years and were called racists, bigots, and extremists for saying out loud is actually true: mass immigration has directly caused housing prices to skyrocket in Canada.
They crunched the numbers, ran the models, and here's what they found: from 2006 to 2021, a sharp increase in new immigrants people arriving within the last five years — was tied to an 11% increase in both house prices and rents across municipalities. Eleven percent. And in big cities like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal? That number jumps to 21%. Rents up 13%. Those aren't theories. That's what happened.
And here's the really shocking part: more than 80% of those new immigrants ended up in just 53 municipalities. So if you're living in a city, if you're a working-class Canadian trying to buy your first home, raise your family, or maybe just rent an apartment that doesn't bankrupt you, you're paying the price literally for Ottawa's immigration agenda.
But wait, this is where it gets worse. This wasn't a mistake. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't just a side effect of some well-meaning policy gone wrong. This is the design. Trudeau and his successor, Mark Carney — yes, the former Goldman Sachs banker turned Liberal savior — engineered this. You import millions of people, you restrict supply, you choke development with red tape, and then you act surprised when prices go through the roof?
You know who benefits from this? Not the young couple trying to buy their first condo in Mississauga. Not the plumber in Surrey trying to get out of his parents' basement. No, the winners are real estate investors, developers, corporate landlords — and the Liberal Party, which gets a permanent bloc of voters hooked on big government. Everyone else? They get crushed.
The housing situation is much more broken in the US, even Red states like Florida, hey @Herm Herm?
So if you think it's bad in Canada it's much worse in the US, hey Herm?
Here's a state that also voted for Trump, hey
Herman
Herm?
Nevada went Red for Trump in 2024 & they have people living in tunnels underneath the streets of Las Vegas, hey Herm?
Quote from: DKG on July 03, 2025, 10:27:26 AMJoe is in his seventies and has no stake in Canada's future. I am sickened by what the Liberal Party has done to my country.
I have no stake in Canada's future either, it doesn't mean I am inclined to be a self centered narcissistic animal like JoHoMo.
It will get worse, there's no way out of it but through it now. Of getting the fuck out of the way as Shen and I have done. Rampant liberalism is a disease and I feel for you poor bastards who have chosen to endure its rotting afterbirth.
Quote from: . on July 04, 2025, 07:31:46 AMI have no stake in Canada's future either, it doesn't mean I am inclined to be a self centered narcissistic animal like JoHoMo.
It will get worse, there's no way out of it but through it now. Of getting the fuck out of the way as Shen and I have done. Rampant liberalism is a disease and I feel for you poor bastards who have chosen to endure its rotting afterbirth.
First world status is not our birth right. It requires work to maintain it. And Canada has done everything in the past decade to shed itself of it's wealthy status. Mark Carney is doubling down on policies that put the Canadian dream at risk.
We cannot endure another decade like the last one or will lose our first world status like Argentina did long ago. There is still a lot of wealth in this country, but we will have to reverse course soon whilw we still can.
Quote from: . on July 04, 2025, 07:31:46 AMI have no stake in Canada's future either, it doesn't mean I am inclined to be a self centered narcissistic animal like JoHoMo.
It will get worse, there's no way out of it but through it now. Of getting the fuck out of the way as Shen and I have done. Rampant liberalism is a disease and I feel for you poor bastards who have chosen to endure its rotting afterbirth.
Leaving Canada is not an option for us.....I hope we can return to the pragmatism that used to characterize Canada.
Quote from: formosan on July 04, 2025, 10:40:34 AMI hope we can return to the pragmatism that used to characterize Canada.
That will not happen on my watch.
Quote from: DKG on July 04, 2025, 09:54:33 AMFirst world status is not our birth right. It requires work to maintain it. And Canada has done everything in the past decade to shed itself of it's wealthy status. Mark Carney is doubling down on policies that put the Canadian dream at risk.
We cannot endure another decade like the last one or will lose our first world status like Argentina did long ago. There is still a lot of wealth in this country, but we will have to reverse course soon whilw we still can.
Canada will get kicked out of the G7.
Resource extraction and processing and manufacturing are what provided a solid middle class base in Canada. Those sectors have shrank by half on the Liberals' watch.
Real estate has more than doubled it's share of the economy. It is not sustainable.
Quote from: JOE on July 04, 2025, 12:23:11 AMHere's a state that also voted for Trump, hey Herman
Herm?
Nevada went Red for Trump in 2024 & they have people living in tunnels underneath the streets of Las Vegas, hey Herm?
They were there under all other administrations, dipshit. WTF, over? I'm going to the Bellagio in a month. Last time we were there, we had dinner (4 of us) and it cost $1000!!!
Quote from: Mark Carney on July 04, 2025, 11:18:27 AMThat will not happen on my watch.
You're a good Prime Minister, Mark Carney.
I'm glad I voted for you.
Quote from: Brent on July 04, 2025, 11:42:16 AMCanada will get kicked out of the G7.
No it won't
Brent
Brent.
Quote from: DKG on July 04, 2025, 09:54:33 AMFirst world status is not our birth right. It requires work to maintain it. And Canada has done everything in the past decade to shed itself of it's wealthy status. Mark Carney is doubling down on policies that put the Canadian dream at risk.
We cannot endure another decade like the last one or will lose our first world status like Argentina did long ago. There is still a lot of wealth in this country, but we will have to reverse course soon whilw we still can.
There is nobody in the current Liberal caucus that has any desire to right the ship. They are staying the course even though that means going off a cliff.
Quote from: DKG on July 04, 2025, 09:54:33 AMFirst world status is not our birth right. It requires work to maintain it. And Canada has done everything in the past decade to shed itself of it's wealthy status. Mark Carney is doubling down on policies that put the Canadian dream at risk.
We cannot endure another decade like the last one or will lose our first world status like Argentina did long ago. There is still a lot of wealth in this country, but we will have to reverse course soon whilw we still can.
And just how likely do you think that course reversal is? I have my doubts; the productive classes of Canada have been hollowed out financially and are weakened to the point of insolvency. While disingenuous assclowns point outwards and assure you that it's worse in America and provide you with endless reams from the propaganda media to support their case. Which people like Shen and myself see through, preferring instead to desert what is clearly a sinking ship, taking our capital with us.
I can't speak for Shen of course, but I can speak for me. There was a time when I was convinced Canada was the country I was going to grow old and die in. I built a business from scratch and contributed my share back into public pool under the understanding that my contribution would be used to further improve the economic landscape and was ultimately rewarded instead with a government which made no secret of its fiscal irresponsibility. And I understood that no amount of "it's so much worse over there" could solve the undeniable truth of just how untenable my relationship with Canada was. I mean even if it were true that prospects in America were worse (and I'm not pretending for a moment that they are), it still doesn't negate the truth of the matter - that prospects in Canada were (and still are) dire as fuck and therefore investing my time and effort somewhere else is imperative.
The balance sheet is easy enough to read and plenty of business-minded folks have interpreted it as I have. Canada's future as an egalitarian wet dream will be realised in the form of a denuded peasantry forced to eke out their existence in the frozen decaying urban wilderness of paltry handouts and indentured servitude to foreign overseers. You won't be allowed to own anything and anything you thought to call yours will be stripped from you. Because you're nice. Because you allow yourselves to be governed by the kinds of rat bastard who will steal everything and grudge crumbs to utter losers like Joe. You think Carney and his successors are going to be content with the damage they've done? We've already seen a government that saw no problem with freezing peoples bank accounts and bashing their opposition in the streets with truncheons and billyclubs... what are you going to do when they come for your car? Your house? The very food on your plate?
I make no apology for refusing point blank to pay into that kind of fascism. Joe can cheer and argue for its arrival, you can hunker down behind your door and hope like hell it doesn't find you when it essentially already has and is toying with with you like some predatory alley cat. I wish it weren't so, but I know in my sinking heart you'll be placated into submission with offers of more Poilievres only to have them engineered out of reach at the finish line.
And it's hard, because I've lived among you. I know the average Canadian's capacity for decency and kindness, but there is naivete in spades there too and it is that more than anything that will be your downfall. And unlike America you don't have a Trump to stand between you and the bullets being fired at your way of life.
The US does, which is why they are enjoying some limited success in getting out from under a political system where left and right are captured and therefore puppets for the same international interests. The same political arrangement should be playing out on Canadian soil, except for the widespread unwillingness to internalise the parties are captured and actually doing something about it.
I don't see it changing any time soon. Even now I see the blinkered denial in the right's assertion they might claw their way back from the abyss if only they could get the liberals out, refusing to acknowledge there are those in their midst that serve the self-same masters that the liberal party does.
I'm sorry for you man.
Quote from: Herman on July 04, 2025, 04:19:32 PMThere is nobody in the current Liberal caucus that has any desire to right the ship. They are staying the course even though that means going off a cliff.
The US will likely fall off the fiscal cliff before Canada does, hey
Herman
Herm?
That Big Beautiful Bill will bankrupt the USA, hey Herm?
Quote from: Herman on July 04, 2025, 04:19:32 PMThere is nobody in the current Liberal caucus that has any desire to right the ship. They are staying the course even though that means going off a cliff.
Today's globalist Liberals have nothing in common with the pragmatic Liberal Party of Chretien and Martin. Canada was in good hands under their watch. Today's Liberals have abandoned pragmatism for ideological rigidity.
Quote from: . on July 04, 2025, 04:33:49 PMAnd just how likely do you think that course reversal is? I have my doubts; the productive classes of Canada have been hollowed out financially and are weakened to the point of insolvency. While disingenuous assclowns point outwards and assure you that it's worse in America and provide you with endless reams from the propaganda media to support their case. Which people like Shen and myself see through, preferring instead to desert what is clearly a sinking ship, taking our capital with us.
I can't speak for Shen of course, but I can speak for me. There was a time when I was convinced Canada was the country I was going to grow old and die in. I built a business from scratch and contributed my share back into public pool under the understanding that my contribution would be used to further improve the economic landscape and was ultimately rewarded instead with a government which made no secret of its fiscal irresponsibility. And I understood that no amount of "it's so much worse over there" could solve the undeniable truth of just how untenable my relationship with Canada was. I mean even if it were true that prospects in America were worse (and I'm not pretending for a moment that they are), it still doesn't negate the truth of the matter - that prospects in Canada were (and still are) dire as fuck and therefore investing my time and effort somewhere else is imperative.
I'm sorry for you man.
Don't be sorry me, I am not one of the millions of Canadians who are forced to rely on food banks. I too am self employed with a detailed retirement plan and an exit strategy to Florida.
And I know the Liberal party will not reverse course. This is not the party of John Manley and Dan McTeague anymore. It's the party of the WEF and Klaus Schwab. They have different ideas from the Canadian proletariat about what is best for Canada.
Quote from: Thiel on July 04, 2025, 12:10:58 PMResource extraction and processing and manufacturing are what provided a solid middle class base in Canada. Those sectors have shrank by half on the Liberals' watch.
Real estate has more than doubled it's share of the economy. It is not sustainable.
It used to be that an immigrant or a Canadian would work in reosurce development or manufacturing, buy a home and put their kids through school. Those jobs are disappearing and with them the Canadian middle class dream.
There are people living in bus shelters, dumpsters, alleyways, on the mass transit system in abandoned buildings and likely the sewer system too in my city.....who's responsible.....I think we know.
Quote from: JOE on July 04, 2025, 01:28:32 PMYou're a good Prime Minister, Mark Carney.
I'm glad I voted for you.
I knew I could count on suckers like you. :crampe:
Quote from: JOE on July 04, 2025, 08:34:58 PMThe US will likely fall off the fiscal cliff before Canada does, hey Herman
Herm?
That Big Beautiful Bill will bankrupt the USA, hey Herm?
Sweetie, I explained to you after we had sex this morning that economic growth and investment are fleeing Canada while Canadians fall further into the debt spiral. And now there is a growing brain drain.
Canada grew at one tenth the American rate over the past decade. That is Canada losing trillions of dollars in investment, jobs, and government revenue.
Some of that lost revenue could have paid down public debt which is one of largest Canadian federal expenses. Part of that lost growth could have created mortgage paying jobs to help Canadians get out of the mountain of debt they are under.
Instead Carney is proposing higher taxes and costs to Canadians on imports. This will widen the gap between GDP per capita in Canada and America.
TD Bank has warned that Carney's policies will mean another lost decade. This was before we discovered that Carney will run deficits of closer to $100 billion per year than the $50 billion he said he would during the election.
On top of that provinces like BC and Ontario are also running massive unsustainable deficits combined with sluggish growth. The federal Liberals have been sending part of their deficits to provinces in the form of reduced transfers for things like health since they formed government in 2015.
I was born in Canada, I was educated there, but it is very hard for people with dependents to keep their heads above in water in Canada any longer. Since you are my dependent, I am better off financially outside Canada.
Understand now Sugarplum or do you want to jump in the sack again.
Quote from: Mark Carney on July 05, 2025, 11:30:21 AMI knew I could count on suckers like you. :crampe:
Actually
Mark Carney
Mark, Mr. Prime Minister, economists are saying you will have to make cuts to government to pay for your election promises and increased defense spending.
My bet us being an Economist and former Bank Governor you will do that but many of your supporters won't like it, Mark.
Quote from: Thiel on July 05, 2025, 12:37:50 PMSweetie, I explained to you after we had sex this morning that economic growth and investment are fleeing Canada while Canadians fall further into the debt spiral. And now there is a growing brain drain.
Canada grew at one tenth the American rate over the past decade. That is Canada losing trillions of dollars in investment, jobs, and government revenue.
Some of that lost revenue could have paid down public debt which is one of largest Canadian federal expenses. Part of that lost growth could have created mortgage paying jobs to help Canadians get out of the mountain of debt they are under.
Instead Carney is proposing higher taxes and costs to Canadians on imports. This will widen the gap between GDP per capita in Canada and America.
TD Bank has warned that Carney's policies will mean another lost decade. This was before we discovered that Carney will run deficits of closer to $100 billion per year than the $50 billion he said he would during the election.
On top of that provinces like BC and Ontario are also running massive unsustainable deficits combined with sluggish growth. The federal Liberals have been sending part of their deficits to provinces in the form of reduced transfers for things like health since they formed government in 2015.
I was born in Canada, I was educated there, but it is very hard for people with dependents to keep their heads above in water in Canada any longer. Since you are my dependent, I am better off financially outside Canada.
Understand now Sugarplum or do you want to jump in the sack again.
Keep the old fart on his hands and knees :crampe: .
When I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.
Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.
Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.
Quote from: Herman on July 05, 2025, 07:23:02 PMWhen I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.
Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.
Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.
Thanks for continuing to work so hard to fund my retirement, hey
Herman
Herm?
And say thanks to yer hardworking son too, hey Herm?
I know you will both continue to work hard for me since you haven't reached official retirement age yet.
And I'm so grateful to our wonderful Prime Minister Carney, hey Herm?
Canada is the best country in the Whole World!
Quote from: DKG on July 05, 2025, 09:53:02 AMDon't be sorry me, I am not one of the millions of Canadians who are forced to rely on food banks...
Not yet you aren't, but dance down the timeline for long enough and you could be. You do recognise (as do I) that the Liberal Party is the party of the WEF and Klaus Schwab which is something in your favour, though I wonder if you've been paying attention to some of their other political chattels about the globe. California perhaps, or New York which will happily levy onerous tax burdens against those that choose to exit their sphere of influence. Or South Africa which will allow maurauding gangs to execute property owners and boil their children alive, offering 10% of a property's value before seizing it under eminent domain. Or Australia, where papered title deeds are even now in the process of being eradicated nationwide in favour of digital ones which the peasantry must pay annual tithe to the government lest they lose all claim to their largest capital investment. And that's assuming the servers aren't hacked outright by foreign actors with the government professing both helplessness in the face of it while secretly rubbing their hands in glee as they swoop in to remedy the situation in their favour.
This is only a sliver of what this rapacious organisation is capable of. Its assets can and will be used to leave you begging for their mercy, singing their praises even as you lament privately all that you have lost. Look past the illusory "democracy" your propagandists assure you that you yet have a say in and get a real good goosey on the leviathan that has been ripping it to shreds for decades. Centuries even, because if we're to be honest an organisation lile the WEF doesn't just magic itself into existence out of thin air. Klaus is where he is because he enjoys the favour of those with even more power and influence than he wields. You might safely presume him to be window dressing, just as your elected parliament is window dressing - the real power over how our communities operated is vested elsewhere.
But that is a discussion for another multipost scrollbomb.
I don't trust anyone who maintains allegience to interests outside of the country they pretend to represent. And you will find people on the books of the WEF on ALL sides of the aisle. Remember the love some people here had for Vivek Ramaswami? I recall he too was named as one of the WEF's Young Global Leader (as was Justin Trudeau) and was doing his level best to distance himself from that distinction. I was not at all surprised to find him pushing for expanded H1B visas for Indian immigrants earlier this year. It is precisely the sort of thing that further advances the cause of a globalist organisation as the WEF and it was one of the main reasons why I disliked him as a candidate for presidency when so many of you were touting him as a better option than Donald Trump.
And there are alumni of that organisation in the ranks of Canada's Conservative party. Schwab has openly boasted of it and if you do your due diligence you will know them. They did not get there by accident, they were vetted
very thoroughly by agents of the World Economic Forum expressly for the purpose of furthering a global political agenda. It's an agenda that will steamroll its way over you if you do not get out of the way in time and given just how widespread its influence is, you won't even register as a speedhump when it does.
Not quite as apocalyptic as that, but for our purposes here the scale is, I think, comparable. I strongly suggest you give close consideration to what I've said here and make the requisite adjustments to your exit strategy with as much alacrity as you might. You are one man, you are not going to be able to stand against what is coming and the longer you leave it before acting will further weaken your position wherever you land. And that's assuming you get to extricate yourself at all.
Quote from: Herman on July 05, 2025, 07:23:02 PMWhen I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.
Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.
Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.
This is what I said, this is what Cunt said.
People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.
Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.
Quote from: Shen Li on July 06, 2025, 12:39:28 AMThis is what I said, this is what Cunt said.
People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.
Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.
Right on the money.
Quote from: . on July 06, 2025, 04:22:39 AMRight on the money.
Precisely.
Quote from: Shen Li on July 06, 2025, 12:39:28 AMThis is what I said, this is what Cunt said.
People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.
Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.
True!
Carney hasn't said how much the hidden industrial carbon tax will cost taxpayers when he implements his plan to 'improve and tighten' it.
The majority of Canadians(68%) are well aware that businesses will have to pass most of the cost of the hidden industrial carbon tax on to consumers.
Quote from: JOE on July 05, 2025, 01:07:01 PMActually Mark Carney
Mark, Mr. Prime Minister, economists are saying you will have to make cuts to government to pay for your election promises and increased defense spending.
My bet us being an Economist and former Bank Governor you will do that but many of your supporters won't like it, Mark.
I am going to run the biggest deficits in Canadian history and pay for them through borrowing and big tax increases. And Canadians will like it and vote for my party again and again and again. :crampe:
Enter Toronto's C.D. Howe Institute to shine a light on what Carney does not want you to see.
The non-partisan think tank calculates that with measures announced by the Liberals since the election (right up to the cancellation of the digital services tax last weekend), the deficit this year will be $92 billion in the current fiscal year, $75 billion next year, $73 billion the year after that and $71 billion in 2028-29.
That's a total of $311 billion in extra public debt in just four years. It took the Trudeau government 10 years to add $600 billion. That's a rate of extra debt about 20 per cent faster than the rate built up by Justin Trudeau and his cabinets.
You may take comfort in the fact that Carney is a former central banker and international financier. I don't. Canada already has a higher-than-average debt-to-GDP ratio for a developed nation. Carney's orgy of spending will only make it worse. And none of it will help the working class. It will be all green giveaways to his fellow Brookfield investors.
Quote from: JOE on July 05, 2025, 08:17:08 PMThanks for continuing to work so hard to fund my retirement, hey Herman
Herm?
And say thanks to yer hardworking son too, hey Herm?
I know you will both continue to work hard for me since you haven't reached official retirement age yet.
And I'm so grateful to our wonderful Prime Minister Carney, hey Herm?
Canada is the best country in the Whole World!
Sweetie, again what are you retired from? It's not posting on forums all day because you still do that.
Your gratitude is owed to me. I pay for your chocolate gold coins not Mr Carney.
Quote from: Brent on July 06, 2025, 12:02:05 PMEnter Toronto's C.D. Howe Institute to shine a light on what Carney does not want you to see.
The non-partisan think tank calculates that with measures announced by the Liberals since the election (right up to the cancellation of the digital services tax last weekend), the deficit this year will be $92 billion in the current fiscal year, $75 billion next year, $73 billion the year after that and $71 billion in 2028-29.
That's a total of $311 billion in extra public debt in just four years. It took the Trudeau government 10 years to add $600 billion. That's a rate of extra debt about 20 per cent faster than the rate built up by Justin Trudeau and his cabinets.
You may take comfort in the fact that Carney is a former central banker and international financier. I don't. Canada already has a higher-than-average debt-to-GDP ratio for a developed nation. Carney's orgy of spending will only make it worse. And none of it will help the working class. It will be all green giveaways to his fellow Brookfield investors.
Mr Carney is even less transparent and more dictatorial than Mr Trudeau was. Taxpayers deserve to know what he plans on adding so much debt for. They need to know where he will get the money and how much it will cost them.
Quote from: Shen Li on July 06, 2025, 12:39:28 AMThis is what I said, this is what Cunt said.
People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.
Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.
I am kinda that way too. But, there comes a time when folks, especially those with young kids have to cut their losses. Patriotism aint keeping the lights on.