THeBlueCashew

You guys know me. I hate fucking libtards more than anyone here. With maybe the exception of Lokmar... but if he does win out I am certainly a close second. I fucking LOATHE THE LEFT WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING

I will immediately hate a person I played in the sandbox with as a child upon finding out they are a leftist.

okay, so now I've set the stage for what I am about to say.

Once again I am breaking rank with mainstream conservationism. From the start of this glorious administration I have maintained that there are good people among the ranks of illegal immigrants. People who just want a shot at a decent life and either lacked the funds, knowledge or some combination therein to get here legally. especially when the legal route is riddled with fucking vultures looking to exploit suffering and desperation to their own financial again **spits *** the fucking court system and everyone in it.

that said I AM NOT FUCKING FOR showing up to a job site and picking off illegal aliens as they are working hard to support themselves and their families. UNLESS the person being carted away is a menace to our society in any form.

Murders, thieves, degenerates of all kinds and traffickers of all kinds? Deport em. Hell hang them from trees if so inclined.

But to cart a man or woman, a human being, doing nothing but working hard to live a meager existence  away like an fucking animals is a bridge too fucking far for me, man. I don't give a shit what the penal code says or doesn't say. that human being's labor remains at that job site in the form of a roof, sheetrocked walls, plumbing .. whatever.. and the poor soul worked with the sweat of his hands is treated like a dog while we have disgusting pieces of shit on the left who hate this country remain here in perpetuity simply because where they were born?

ugh--- a true travesty of moral justice!

Nah, kid, you don't have my support on that one as I would happily trade these fucking blue haired degenerate trannies for the decent hardworking illegals any day of any week.

so with all that said I want you to watch this video as Matt Walsh, an outspoken conservative speaker whom I support, attempts to justify want an ICE agent did to a panicking woman.

I am not for this. I did not vote for this, I don't support this and in fact I am disgusted to my core by this.

Please tell me the majority of us are better than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7pFCmVD3g&lc=

Brother I am going to have to break ranks with you. If someone is in the country illegally they are breaking the law. Period.

ICE's job is to enforce immigration law. That includes folks on the job. The only thing I would do different is arrest the piece of shit who is hiring them.

What Canada does for illegal aliens is what the Jim Crow Joe administration did.
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I disagree with Biggz on this too. His heart is in the right place though. I will give him that

Selective enforcement leads to more illegal immigration. As Lok would end a point - FACT!

I get what y'all are saying

But I just cannot reconcile allowing a piece of shit like ilhan Omar to stay here and getting rid of an immigrant who did break the law on entry. Yes. But has demonstrated ever since they are neither a threat nor burden to our society

I just cannot stomach such a blantant injustice

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 01:05:26 AMI get what y'all are saying

But I just cannot reconcile allowing a piece of shit like ilhan Omar to stay here and getting rid of an immigrant who did break the law on entry. Yes. But has demonstrated ever since they are neither a threat nor burden to our society

I just cann
ot stomach such a blantant injustice

Biggz, as a legal immigrant to Canada and now Singapore nothing grinds my gears more than illegal immigration.

Ilhan Omar is a disgusting animal.

DEPORT THE TWAT!!

I gotta agree with Biggie on this one. If I see an ICE raid happening they better be going after criminals and not some guy working at a car wash. There's plenty of vermin out there that need deporting and you're not going to find them selling tacos off a truck somewhere.

Personally, I voted for Dora the Explorer AND her Abuela to get the fukin boot! Bye, bitches!

By my own personal made up out of thin air estimate, there are 30 MILLION+ illegals in this country. What did I base this number off of? Well, they said it was 12 million before Biden opened the floodgates, I believe that was a lowball number, and lets just say that number doubled at least. I think thats about as good of a guess as any. Probably STILL low!!!

Just about every institution in this country is fucked. Hell, when America was operating what I call "normally" the entire squad would have been ejected from Congress and Omar the brother fucker would have been deported. Let me just add that NOT ONE SINGLE MUSLIM SHOULD HAVE CITIZENSHIP!!! islam is TREASON, FACT! Dont believe me? Well, you havent read a koran, pig shit be upon it!

COULD, we let abuela who's been here for 30 years stay? Sure. And if we had some kind of reasonable enforcement of existing immigration law, I might entertain it. But the shit thats been going on with these assholes??? FUK THAT!!! I've told all of you previously that I have a close personal friend that works for The State of Illinois. Illinois gives a ridiculous amount of money to illegals who own businesses that hire other illegals and pay them under the table so when Illinois pulls up the money truck for the illegal employees, the income they make doesnt count and they get 100% of whatever money Illinois gives these cunts!!! Now if I commit tax fraud, I'm getting the full force of the law BAWLZ DEEP!!!!  It aint just brown people leaching off the system either. Them fukin Polocks have an entire underground railroad so to speak that shuffles them cunts into this country illegally, AND they sign these assholes up for all the bennies too! Who said Polacks are dumb? Its been going on for DECADES!!! Other ethnic groups as well. I WANT THEM ALL DEPORTED! GTFO!!!!

This country is fucked up, illegals DO GET REGISTERED TO VOTE AND they get influence representation in Congress! Illinois had an audit years ago and a small number of illegals we gave licenses to were auto registered to vote. I dont trust its been remedied AND I dont trust that its a "small number".

People keep talking about crops rotting in the fields and hotel rooms not getting cleaned. Fuk your hotels and fuk your farm! My own family is getting cunt punted over soybeans not getting sold to china. Too bad! We should have never gotten hooked on cheap labor and chinese trade ITFP! I KNEW this was going to happen from the time I was in my 20's!!!

Well anyway, there's gonna be a LOT of fucking pain. I expect my family will lose the farm in bankruptcy within 3 years. It sucks, but hey, we're all crack head fucks and its time to go cold turkey. Same for these parasite illegals that have sponged off the system while driving down wages of jobs that AMERICANS WOULD DO!!! In the 90's, my neighbor was a drywaller and made decent money. Well, illegals fucked his job out of existence.

Another thing I want to see on live TV is these cunt Karens and soi cucks demonstrating at ICE facilities simply need ran the fuck over and killed. All this shit is a "I'm mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore!" scenario. We can always devolve into a civil war, and I think we will eventually. I bet a substantial amount of these illegal rats will flee then!

USA needs a working visa system for lower or unskilled labor Biggie Smiles Bigly. They already have non-immigrant visas for White collar or professionals. So why not domestics or burger flippers? And just like free trade visas they are restricted where and for whom they can work so they don't threaten better paying jobs for Americans.

Likewise any person cant just set up a business to become a physician, they need a license which restricts them what services they can offer. So that should apply to low skilled migrant workers too.

Let them stay under the condition they must register for and obtain working visas, can't immigrate, they must pay their taxes & they have to pay international fees to access the medical system.

I don't know why this isn't done. It could actually be a cash cow for the US. Instead of tariffs let foreign workers pay fees and taxes to subsidize Americans & the USA's financial obligations. Its health system too.

The only exception I'd provide for migrants who want to become citizens is they spend at least 10 years in the military to fight America's wars 8n dangerous missions.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 30, 2025, 10:15:23 AMI gotta agree with Biggie on this one. If I see an ICE raid happening they better be going after criminals and not some guy working at a car wash. There's plenty of vermin out there that need deporting and you're not going to find them selling tacos off a truck somewhere.

Who says ICE is not prioritiziing criminal illegal aliens.

Quote from: Herman on September 29, 2025, 09:19:32 PMWhat Canada does for illegal aliens is what the Jim Crow Joe administration did.
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Taiwan has a lot of illegal workers.....so does Japan and South Korea..

I don't know what is done when they are caught besides deportation.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 11:18:24 AMPersonally, I voted for Dora the Explorer AND her Abuela to get the fukin boot! Bye, bitches!

By my own personal made up out of thin air estimate, there are 30 MILLION+ illegals in this country. What did I base this number off of? Well, they said it was 12 million before Biden opened the floodgates, I believe that was a lowball number, and lets just say that number doubled at least. I think thats about as good of a guess as any. Probably STILL low!!!

Just about every institution in this country is fucked. Hell, when America was operating what I call "normally" the entire squad would have been ejected from Congress and Omar the brother fucker would have been deported. Let me just add that NOT ONE SINGLE MUSLIM SHOULD HAVE CITIZENSHIP!!! islam is TREASON, FACT! Dont believe me? Well, you havent read a koran, pig shit be upon it!

COULD, we let abuela who's been here for 30 years stay? Sure. And if we had some kind of reasonable enforcement of existing immigration law, I might entertain it. But the shit thats been going on with these assholes??? FUK THAT!!! I've told all of you previously that I have a close personal friend that works for The State of Illinois. Illinois gives a ridiculous amount of money to illegals who own businesses that hire other illegals and pay them under the table so when Illinois pulls up the money truck for the illegal employees, the income they make doesnt count and they get 100% of whatever money Illinois gives these cunts!!! Now if I commit tax fraud, I'm getting the full force of the law BAWLZ DEEP!!!!  It aint just brown people leaching off the system either. Them fukin Polocks have an entire underground railroad so to speak that shuffles them cunts into this country illegally, AND they sign these assholes up for all the bennies too! Who said Polacks are dumb? Its been going on for DECADES!!! Other ethnic groups as well. I WANT THEM ALL DEPORTED! GTFO!!!!

This country is fucked up, illegals DO GET REGISTERED TO VOTE AND they get influence representation in Congress! Illinois had an audit years ago and a small number of illegals we gave licenses to were auto registered to vote. I dont trust its been remedied AND I dont trust that its a "small number".

People keep talking about crops rotting in the fields and hotel rooms not getting cleaned. Fuk your hotels and fuk your farm! My own family is getting cunt punted over soybeans not getting sold to china. Too bad! We should have never gotten hooked on cheap labor and chinese trade ITFP! I KNEW this was going to happen from the time I was in my 20's!!!

Well anyway, there's gonna be a LOT of fucking pain. I expect my family will lose the farm in bankruptcy within 3 years. It sucks, but hey, we're all crack head fucks and its time to go cold turkey. Same for these parasite illegals that have sponged off the system while driving down wages of jobs that AMERICANS WOULD DO!!! In the 90's, my neighbor was a drywaller and made decent money. Well, illegals fucked his job out of existence.

Another thing I want to see on live TV is these cunt Karens and soi cucks demonstrating at ICE facilities simply need ran the fuck over and killed. All this shit is a "I'm mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore!" scenario. We can always devolve into a civil war, and I think we will eventually. I bet a substantial amount of these illegal rats will flee then!

See, Lokmar's response here is exactly why I hate fucking libtards to their core.

how so?

Well if we rewind the clock about 10 years, I'm sure it was no secret to Loks, or any of us for that matter, that there was a high probability those guys standing in front of home depot at 6am every morning weren't exactly U.S citizens or even green card holders. But we all turned a blind eye to it. they worked hard, didn't bother anyone and more often than not the exploit ability of their situation translated to significant savings for anyone looking to avail themselves of their labor.

Not ideal morally speaking and certainly not for the poor soul working for 50% of what his hard labor is worth. But those are the breaks.

Fast forward to a day and age where the scum on the left is seeing a decline in support from some of their most trusted constituents ie the black community and what do they do? Import voters. Period. this was never about giving people a better life, a chance at freedom, a slice of the pie or any of the other virtuous facades they attempt to sell to the American public. Because the truth of the matter is -- democrats never gave the first fuck about these people and still don't. They are simply a means to an end.

and now, in their quest for power and their insatiable greed they have hurt ALL illegals, both good and bad, by making the situation untenable.

I understand the problem and the overall dynamic. All I am asking of my fellow conservatives is please, please do not lose your humanity and your compassion for another human being less fortunate than you as a result of your very valid frustration with the democrat scum.

the woman in the video I showed did not deserved to be thrown about and spoken to like a complete piece of garbage. She's an illegal, yes, but is still a human being and should be treated with dignity and compassion and I'm sorry, I didn't not see that coming out of the ICE agent who man handled her.

There has to be a better way.

Get rid of the leeches and the criminals. But to dehumanize people because they broke a law out of desperation to me is tantamount to throwing the highest penalty at a man who committed petite larceny because his children were starving and he simply had no other means to feed them.

Compassion and reverence my friends. Compassion for your fellow human being and a reverence for God that you have been spared such a calamity in this life is all I'm saying.

Every fucking illegal alien the States and Canada should be deported immediately after paying a heavy fine.

Illegal border crossers and visa overstayers cost Canada and the States a fortune in health care education and policing. Not to mention they increase rents and lower wages.

Getr their asses out and both countries should have a five year moratorium on all immigration.

I know many don't like my idea but one way to make migrants subsidize the US is make them pay 3x+ as much to access health services & the education system as US citizens. So if they want to send their children to US public schools or use public health services as non immigrant visa holders they have to pay for it as if accessing a private service. However just like free trade visa holders they are not entitled to welfare, unemployment benefits, medical benefits or social security. So these kinds of migrant workers would subsidize the US citizens.

Plus they'd have to pay work visa fees. So that could be be a cash cow for the US & state governments.

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 11:59:40 AMUSA needs a working visa system for lower or unskilled labor Biggie Smiles Bigly. They already have non-immigrant visas for White collar or professionals. So why not domestics or burger flippers? And just like free trade visas they are restricted where and for whom they can work so they don't threaten better paying jobs for Americans.

Likewise any person cant just set up a business to become a physician, they need a license which restricts them what services they can offer. So that should apply to low skilled migrant workers too.

Let them stay under the condition they must register for and obtain working visas, can't immigrate, they must pay their taxes & they have to pay international fees to access the medical system.

I don't know why this isn't done. It could actually be a cash cow for the US. Instead of tariffs let foreign workers pay fees and taxes to subsidize Americans & the USA's financial obligations. Its health system too.

The only exception I'd provide for migrants who want to become citizens is they spend at least 10 years in the military to fight America's wars 8n dangerous missions.

Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation.

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 01:25:12 PMI know many don't like my idea but one way to make migrants subsidize the US is make them pay 3x+ as much to access health services & the education system as US citizens. So if they want to send their children to US public schools or use public health services as non immigrant visa holders they have to pay for it as if accessing a private service. However just like free trade visa holders they are not entitled to welfare, unemployment benefits, medical benefits or social security. So these kinds of migrant workers would subsidize the US citizens.

Plus they'd have to pay work visa fees. So that could be be a cash cow for the US & state governments.

Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first?

JOEJ

Hey shit for brainz, here's what Thiel had to say to you:

"Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first? "

and

"Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation. "

After reviewing the Matt Walsh video:

Hands off the cops and dont try to back them up. I would expect to get my world rocked as a US Citizen if I put my hands on a cop MULTIPLE TIMES. Is this a bad look? I considered that at first, then I considered her touching the cop. Great photo opportunity tho! Makes me wonder if there was some staging here on the advice of her attorney.

The cunts blocking the truck in the other video? RUN THEM FUCKERS OVER!!!!!

The fat blond blocking a car should have got the cuffs slapped on her! "HE ASSAULTED ME!!" Bitch, he should have dotted you in your fukin eye!

Protesters backing up the cops/troops, etc should have been tear gassed, A LOT.

The asshole niggeR making gun shooting hand signals should have been bean bagged in the face.

Steven Millers a fascist? MORE FASCISM PLEASE! Oh, and so much for lowering the rhetoric!!! I say go full on final solution on libtards!

Assata Shakur should have been drone struck. No way should scum like her be allowed to live on the lamb after killing a cop.

LDS shootings: I am soooo thankful that the shooter was killed by the cops. Please cops, dont EVER take these fuckers alive if at all possible!!!!

Portland peaceful?  :crampe:  :crampe:

Its true, I am kinda heartless in general anymore. At the same time, I'm sick of the bullshit. I dont want a single solitary illegal doing ANY FUCKING JOB! If an American wont do the job, FUK IT! Back when I had a bigger heart, I used to say let illegals do the jobs as long as they get paid the same as an American. NOPE Let us suffer if we're too lazy or the pay isnt enough.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 03:07:33 PMJOEJ

Hey shit for brainz, here's what Thiel had to say to you:

"Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first? "

and

"Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation. "

Old Thiel does all the thinking in their fruity relationship.

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Shen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 08:52:36 PMShen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!

I know whites and their suicidal ways better than you pasty-skinned fucks know urselves.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 12:55:23 PMSee, Lokmar's response here is exactly why I hate fucking libtards to their core.

how so?

Compassion and reverence my friends. Compassion for your fellow human being and a reverence for God that you have been spared such a calamity in this life is all I'm saying.

You hate liberals so much Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

And what that does that mean?

Of course people are tired of the fucking problem the scum on the left has deliberately caused. My fellow republicans are fucking tired and I cant say I blame them. YEARS of total bullshit from the left will do that to a person.

Regrettable yes, but hardly enough to ever get me to look in the libtard direction as a source of truth and/or reason.

I'd put money on the fact that 10 years ago many of these same people weren't emotionally vested in this matter at all. In fact, I KNOW, as I have posted with several of them for around that time

But the scum on the left pushed too fucking hard and now the pendulum is going to swing violently in the other direction

same shit is going to happen to those twisted fucking perverts who think they are women. Only difference is I hope those cockroaches get chased down and attacked on the streets. I do not wish the same for a person who's only crime was trying to make a better life for themselves and by extension, the people around them

Quotesame shit is going to happen to those twisted fucking perverts who think they are women. Only difference is I hope those cockroaches get chased down and attacked on the streets. I do not wish the same for a person who's only crime was trying to make a better life for themselves and by extension, the people around them

white Trannies are the most violent and deranged libtard faction. They are also mental cases.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 10:14:33 PMAnd what that does that mean?

Of course people are tired of the fucking problem the scum on the left has deliberately caused. My fellow republicans are fucking tired and I cant say I blame them. YEARS of total bullshit from the left will do that to a person.

Another idea besides issuing renewable work visas for these migrant workers, would be to tack on an extra 5-10% surcharge on their taxes. And I think a lot of them would pay it, just for the privilege of being able to live and work in the USA. Better than where they came from.

But those extra taxes could help pay for state programs (which the migrants wouldn't be entitled to).

Cash cow. But most in the USA don't see it that way.

Just an idea tho.

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:26:17 PMAnother idea besides issuing renewable work visas for these migrant workers, would be to tack on an extra 5-10% surcharge on their taxes. And I think a lot of them would pay it, just for the privilege of being able to live and work in the USA. Better than where they came from.

But those extra taxes could help pay for state programs (which the migrants wouldn't be entitled to).

Cash cow. But most in the USA don't see it that way.

Just an idea tho.

STFU, idiot. They're paid under the table 99% of the time so NO TAXES! Thanks for playing, faggit.

Quote from: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 09:11:09 PMI know whites and their suicidal ways better than you pasty-skinned fucks know urselves.

Dont let your yellow ass swell up too much with all that pride, dragonlady!

I'll take that as a wo tongyi Loundeye!

Quote from: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:46:36 AMI'll take that as a wo tongyi Loundeye!

I'll let you know what I think of that when I learn your chank language.  :popcorn:

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:49:19 AMI'll let you know what I think of that when I learn your chank language.  :popcorn:

Sometime I will drink a few mojitos and curse you in Chinese.

Quote from: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:55:10 AMSometime I will drink a few mojitos and curse you in Chinese.

Be sure to post a translation too!

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:57:36 AMBe sure to post a translation too!

I will do that.

See I'm not as evil as you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-8yncLiE4

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:40:11 AMSTFU, idiot. They're paid under the table 99% of the time so NO TAXES! Thanks for playing, faggit.

In which case, make the employer pay the extra tax if it failed to report migrant labor. US guv could force the employer who use migrant labor to account for each worker to apply for work visas for them & pay those fees too Lokmar.

Either way the fees would be paid by the worker or the employer so that the government would always get its cut.

Failure on the part of the employer to pay employee taxes is tax evasion.

Instead of wasting all this money on ICE your guv could have been collecting employee taxes all this time & left these migrant workers alone like Biggie Smiles Bigly suggested.

Personally if I were US Prez I would let them stay, legalize them as temporary workers requiring visas and collect billions in fees and taxes from them. If they wanted access to education & the health system then make them pay even more. And only then deport those who failed to comply.

I just thought Trump lost this as an opportunity to collect badly needed revenue for US & state governments.

As you're probably aware, a lot of the poorer red states are hurting due to budget cutbacks. Collecting fees & taxes from migrant workers could have helped them ease the shortfall.

We are either a nation of laws or we are not. We either have borders or we don't. It is that simple to me. 

I'm sorry if a worker is taken off the job, but that is a job robbed from an American. If there are no consequences for jumping the line, then that sends a message. Deporting illegals is as much about the messaging as it is about enforcing the law. What message do we want to send? I think we want the message to be: Come here illegally and you will be hunted down and deported. Get in line or get out.

Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 01, 2025, 01:52:39 AMWe are either a nation of laws or we are not. We either have borders or we don't. It is that simple to me. 

I'm sorry if a worker is taken off the job, but that is a job robbed from an American. If there are no consequences for jumping the line, then that sends a message. Deporting illegals is as much about the messaging as it is about enforcing the law. What message do we want to send? I think we want the message to be: Come here illegally and you will be hunted down and deported. Get in line or get out.

 I agree with this. And what Lok said. I also agree with Biggie....but...my tender hearted days are behind me.

 Our good nature has been severely abused

 If someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.

 No one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.

Quote from: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 10:19:29 PMwhite Trannies are the most violent and deranged libtard faction. They are also mental cases.

 Ever since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:55:41 AMIf someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.

these are the people I am talking about. I'm not advocating for letting new ones in and I am certainly not for the bums or criminals leeching the system.

But someone who's been working hard and staying out of trouble for 10 years? I'm not for yanking them off a bus or from a job site and I'd happily trade one of them for a loser like admong, murdope or Pig any day of the week

Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 01:11:56 AMIn which case, make the employer pay the extra tax if it failed to report migrant labor. US guv could force the employer who use migrant labor to account for each worker to apply for work visas for them & pay those fees too Lokmar.

Either way the fees would be paid by the worker or the employer so that the government would always get its cut.

Failure on the part of the employer to pay employee taxes is tax evasion.

Instead of wasting all this money on ICE your guv could have been collecting employee taxes all this time & left these migrant workers alone like Biggie Smiles Bigly suggested.

Personally if I were US Prez I would let them stay, legalize them as temporary workers requiring visas and collect billions in fees and taxes from them. If they wanted access to education & the health system then make them pay even more. And only then deport those who failed to comply.

I just thought Trump lost this as an opportunity to collect badly needed revenue for US & state governments.

As you're probably aware, a lot of the poorer red states are hurting due to budget cutbacks. Collecting fees & taxes from migrant workers could have helped them ease the shortfall.

Stupid buttfucker, the employers are illegal too many times so THEY dont pay any taxes either. Just STFU, josephine.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:55:41 AMI agree with this. And what Lok said. I also agree with Biggie....but...my tender hearted days are behind me.

 Our good nature has been severely abused

 If someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.

I have always been pro immigration. But, it must be legal, sustainable, and beneficial to the host nation. What the Biden administration did was none of the above.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 09:28:40 AMthese are the people I am talking about. I'm not advocating for letting new ones in and I am certainly not for the bums or criminals leeching the system.

But someone who's been working hard and staying out of trouble for 10 years? I'm not for yanking them off a bus or from a job site and I'd happily trade one of them for a loser like admong, murdope or Pig any day of the week

Right. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

It is starting to come out now truly disturbed too many trans people are.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:48:44 AMI have always been pro immigration. But, it must be legal, sustainable, and beneficial to the host nation. What the Biden administration did was none of the above.

This. The US used to only allow so many immigrants in and then we closed our borders and made them assimilate.

At least thats what grandma told me.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:51:37 AMIt is starting to come out how truly disturbed too many trans people are.

 About time too.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

What in thee actual fuk?????? :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :crazy:

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:53:33 AMWhat in thee actual fuk?????? :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :crazy:

 I wish i was making that up  :cramp:

 Fucking gross ass idiot troons. 

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:59:17 AMNo one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.

I have Joe on ignore. I can only see his lame repetitive trolling when he is quoted.

What you quoted was a pretty obvious attempt to derail the topic by bringing up your previous relationship. But, you seem sharp, I am sure know that.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:54:07 AMI wish i was making that up  :cramp:

 Fucking gross ass idiot troons. 

I wish you were too.

Because when im on my period it totally feels like frozen tomato paste leaking out my asshole  :facepalm:

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:56:02 AMBecause when im on my period it totally feels like frozen tomato paste leaking out my asshole  :facepalm:

Tell em they have to punch each other in the stomach over and over for a more realistic affect!

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:52:38 AMThis. The US used to only allow so many immigrants in and then we closed our borders and made them assimilate.

At least thats what grandma told me.

Canada too. That was the sustainability part. Starting in 2016 the Liberals deliberately ended that.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:54:55 AMI have Joe on ignore. I can only see his lame repetitive trolling when he is quoted.

What you quoted was a pretty obvious attempt to derail the topic by bringing up your previous relationship. But, you seem sharp, I am sure know that.

Well the only ones who enjoy my spicey trainwreck love life more than me are people on the internet.

Ive actually calmed down A LOT.  :dontknow:

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:00:44 AMWell the only ones who enjoy my spicey trainwreck love life more than me are people on the internet.

Ive actually calmed down A LOT.  :dontknow:

Joe loves it for trolling purposes only. But, Dove you need to remember how young Joe is. He is only seventy. He is still in his junior high catty school girl phase.

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:57:29 AMTell em they have to punch each other in the stomach over and over for a more realistic affect!

Theyd have to get those electric shock period simulators and stick it to their taints.

I know how gender affirming it would be having to dig under their balls but punching eachother there would be more equivalent to female experience.

Or we can just politely introduce bullets into their skulls.

I love being a terf 

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:03:07 AMJoe loves it for trolling purposes only. But, Dove you need to remember how young Joe is. He is only seventy. He is still in his junior high catty school girl phase.

 Bah. Im good lol.

 Ive been properly domesticated.

 It took a man who had absolutely no sex life for more than 20 years but who loves to study lol.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:00:33 AMCanada too. That was the sustainability part. Starting in 2016 the Liberals deliberately ended that.

 We need to go back to this.

 Dude. We used to call Dearborn "Dearbornistan" for shits an giggles. But....now its actually real and they have sharia law over and shit  :facepalm:

 Im not fucking kidding at all or even being dramatic. Theyve literally turned Dearborn into the middle east right smack in Metro D.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:08:38 AMBah. Im good lol.

 Ive been properly domesticated.

 It took a man who had absolutely no sex life for more than 20 years but who loves to study lol.

That is more info Joe will be using to troll with. That old fart's trolling is stuck in 2006.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:10:35 AMWe need to go back to this.

 Dude. We used to call Dearborn "Dearbornistan" for shits an giggles. But....now its actually real and they have sharia law over and shit  :facepalm:

 Im not fucking kidding at all or even being dramatic. Theyve literally turned Dearborn into the middle east right smack in Metro D.

I live about four hours from Dearborn. I have driven through it. I am aware of it's religious composition.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:16:07 AMI live about four hours from Dearborn. I have driven through it. I am aware of it's religious composition.

 I could probably guess where i Canada you are based on that info.

 Im in Oakland county so...im about, an hour or so away from there.

 Its always had a large Muslim population and its slowly become flat our Islamic over the years. Now they are Sharia lawing it over there.

 I dont get it. Why even come here then? I just wanna drive slow through it and throw bacon and beer at everything.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:25:29 AMI could probably guess where i Canada you are based on that info.

 Im in Oakland county so...im about, an hour or so away from there.

 Its always had a large Muslim population and its slowly become flat our Islamic over the years. Now they are Sharia lawing it over there.

 I dont get it. Why even come here then? I just wanna drive slow through it and throw bacon and beer at everything.

I think you probably do know where I live based on what I wrote.

And I know where Oakland County is.

I grew up in the Willowdale area of North Toronto. It has a large Muslim population and a large Jewish population. But, there was peace and very little radicalization. I know too many Muslims in Dearborn and Minneapolis have been radicalized.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRight. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.

you see how your opinion is swayed by the deliberate abuse brought on by the scum on the left?

this is what I am talking about

10 years ago you didn't feel this way. None of us did. We all knew it happened and sometimes even benifited from it ourselves

as a homeowner can I truthfully say I've never shown up at the local home depot to grab a guy or two for some sheet-rocking, lawn care or other menial manual task that I did not want to pay a contractor thousands to perform ? No I cannot.

and so, today, I don't get to pontificate or stand up on a high horse and say "get rid of them all" .. am I frustrated because of the abuse? yes. but should the honest hardworking guy whom I didn't have a problem with 10 years ago be dropped off in a land which is now virtually foreign to him with little to no way to sustain himself because democrats are power hungry scum? no.

I can compartmentalize the issue and assign the blame where it belongs and find pathways for good, moral and hardworking people who should not suffer consequence because Biden and Kamala were incompetent pieces of shit

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:14:07 AMyou see how your opinion is swayed by the deliberate abuse brought on by the scum on the left?

this is what I am talking about

10 years ago you didn't feel this way. None of us did. We all knew it happened and sometimes even benifited from it ourselves

as a homeowner can I truthfully say I've never shown up at the local home depot to grab a guy or two for some sheet-rocking, lawn care or other menial manual task that I did not want to pay a contractor thousands to perform ? No I cannot.

and so, today, I don't get to pontificate or stand up on a high horse and say "get rid of them all" .. am I frustrated because of the abuse? yes. but should the honest hardworking guy whom I didn't have a problem with 10 years ago be dropped off in a land which is now virtually foreign to him with little to no way to sustain himself because democrats are power hungry scum? no.

I can compartmentalize the issue and assign the blame where it belongs and find pathways for good, moral and hardworking people who should not suffer consequence because Biden and Kamala were incompetent pieces of shit

 BUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:31:06 AMI think you probably do know where I live based on what I wrote.

And I know where Oakland County is.

I grew up in the Willowdale area of North Toronto. It has a large Muslim population and a large Jewish population. But, there was peace and very little radicalization. I know too many Muslims in Dearborn and Minneapolis have been radicalized.

 We always had radical islamists over there....unfortunately that population grew a lot.

 And ha! I was gonna guess Toronto. My oldest daughter and her fiance just took a spontaneous trip there to see Twenty One Pilots lol.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.

The immigration process is just as corrupt as any other involving the courts. Attorneys, red tape, bullshit and a litany of processes that many of these people do not have the aptitude to properly navigate. So they are inclined to stay off the radar and out of sight. Out of sight, out of mind.

Is it right? No. Is it understandable as to why it happens? Yes. Should a person who has been here for 10 years building a life for themselves and perhaps a family through the sweat of their hands suddenly be transported to a far away place because several years ago you had the scum on the left virtually goading them to come here? No.

Their sin is not so great that they should suffer such a severe penalty. Especially when the TRUE criminals in this travesty of justice walk free from consequence. 

Yes they broke the law. I get that. Lots of us break laws either morally or socially. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

But was the law broken so great that we cannot show compassion and handle each situation based on the merits and the unique physiology of the circumstance?

Let's all be honest with ourselves here. If your child had an illness that some illegal grandma had a home remedy for a cure and she was being carted away on a bus before your eyes would you be as eager to to say "the law is the law" or would you be more inclined to lobby on her behalf for some type of provision for her to remain here based on factors which show her favor?

-- I ask all of us to search our hearts for the answer. Really search our hearts and I guarantee if we truly perform this exercise the answer will be a resounding NO. And that's okay, it is as it should be. We are seeking the welfare of someone we love and I already know what my answer is. We're all human and have a vested interest in the welfare of our child and are therefore willing to dispense with "technicalities" based on the greater good

well I'm asking all of us, devoid of such a vested interested, to step out of ourselves for just a moment and base your judgement on compassion -- when compassion is warranted, when the human being on the chopping block has nearly no blemish and nothing but the mercy of God fearing people to dictate their fate. and not simply see the issue though a prism of black and white.

I personally cannot find it within myself to stand behind such a draconian position wherein there is no provision whatsoever for persons in this category. And I am about as right wing as they come ... so if you are not winning my heart and mind in this regard you are certainly not winning the hearts and minds of millions of Americans who lean more centrist in their philosophy

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.

No ecceptions. If somebody enters a country illegally they have to be deported. No leniency just because it took ten years to catch them.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRight. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.

One hundred percent.

Here's some US Citizens getting the same treatment!  :crampe:

I approve!!!
https://youtu.be/ERO7mL2dcu0

Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:25:19 PMHere's some US Citizens getting the same treatment!  :crampe:

I approve!!!
https://youtu.be/ERO7mL2dcu0

I wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.

Sugarplum, as I explained to you after we had sex this morning, letting people break the law is not a solution. It is an invitation for more lawlessness.

They must be deported, but if they decide they want to return their applications can expidited.

Understand now pussycat or do you want to jump in the sack first.

Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Honeybunch, you know what will happen. The Democrats will try to impeach the president again rather than work for the interests of the American people. Thankfully the senate will block that abuse of power.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:52:15 AMThe immigration process is just as corrupt as any other involving the courts. Attorneys, red tape, bullshit and a litany of processes that many of these people do not have the aptitude to properly navigate. So they are inclined to stay off the radar and out of sight. Out of sight, out of mind.

Is it right? No. Is it understandable as to why it happens? Yes. Should a person who has been here for 10 years building a life for themselves and perhaps a family through the sweat of their hands suddenly be transported to a far away place because several years ago you had the scum on the left virtually goading them to come here? No.

Their sin is not so great that they should suffer such a severe penalty. Especially when the TRUE criminals in this travesty of justice walk free from consequence. 

Yes they broke the law. I get that. Lots of us break laws either morally or socially. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

But was the law broken so great that we cannot show compassion and handle each situation based on the merits and the unique physiology of the circumstance?

Let's all be honest with ourselves here. If your child had an illness that some illegal grandma had a home remedy for a cure and she was being carted away on a bus before your eyes would you be as eager to to say "the law is the law" or would you be more inclined to lobby on her behalf for some type of provision for her to remain here based on factors which show her favor?

-- I ask all of us to search our hearts for the answer. Really search our hearts and I guarantee if we truly perform this exercise the answer will be a resounding NO. And that's okay, it is as it should be. We are seeking the welfare of someone we love and I already know what my answer is. We're all human and have a vested interest in the welfare of our child and are therefore willing to dispense with "technicalities" based on the greater good

well I'm asking all of us, devoid of such a vested interested, to step out of ourselves for just a moment and base your judgement on compassion -- when compassion is warranted, when the human being on the chopping block has nearly no blemish and nothing but the mercy of God fearing people to dictate their fate. and not simply see the issue though a prism of black and white.

I personally cannot find it within myself to stand behind such a draconian position wherein there is no provision whatsoever for persons in this category. And I am about as right wing as they come ... so if you are not winning my heart and mind in this regard you are certainly not winning the hearts and minds of millions of Americans who lean more centrist in their philosophy

I mean. My experience with illegals is they are working hard but they have little respect for us.

There is also a wide range here. Leaving out criminal illegals, we have illegals being labor trafficked. Often times by other illegals.

Plus like you pointed out, those Mexicans in the Home Depot parking lot who will bust ass for dirt cheap, thats an American who could have had business.

When i was S Florida i was cleaning houses and businesses and competing with Mexican women who were doing more for less money. And it wouldnt have been worth it for me to go lower than they were going. And i paid taxes! I was lisenced. They didnt do any of that....they were just working under the table dirt cheap, and sending money back to relatives.

But yeah im softer about ones that have just lived and worked here. The problem is, where we could turn a blind eye before....thats been so abused i just dont see anyway to deport people while letting the behaved ones off the hook.

Is there is any current legislation regarding these ones? I havent been aware of any bills on their behalf. Even with the damn left sky screaming over it, none of them ever actually DO anything.

I would probably vote in favor of giving them a doable pass to citizen ship.....IF they have been building an ethical life in harmony with American values and participating in American life and not using us for our benefits and turning small towns into little Mexican villages.

I feel so irked when i see Mexican small businesses where they fly the Mexican flag and NO US flag. Like the Mexican flag wouldnt bother me if they flew under the US flag.  But theyll fly JUST the Mexican flag. That irks me.

I guess what im saying....they need to WANT to be Americans. Not just Mexicans living in America (or whatever other country they came from).

Whats happening in my state with fucking Dearbornistan is putting a very sour taste in my mouth. We were easy on these arabs and they are fucking shitting all over us over here.

It is supposed to be hard to become a citizen. It always was. The ones who wanted to be here badly enough to go through the process are VERY proud Americans. And they should be! 

I know my family were immigrants and came here from Ireland. My grandma was a little girl when they finally got citizenship. She had duel citizenship many years. But she took so much pride in being an American.

If we dont file taxes, we are getting into trouble legally. No one is gonna be like "well they work and built an honest life, lets give them a break". I think that opens up a whole conversation about how a person should be held accountable for breaking our laws based on how productive their lives are....which many judges will give breaks if a person has a clean record and job and isnt known to be a bane on society.

What would you change about our immigration laws as they are today?

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

It is neither moral nor legal. Illegal immigration carries a cost to society.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:35:49 PMI mean. My experience with illegals is they are working hard but they have little respect for us.

There is also a wide range here. Leaving out criminal illegals, we have illegals being labor trafficked. Often times by other illegals.

Plus like you pointed out, those Mexicans in the Home Depot parking lot who will bust ass for dirt cheap, thats an American who could have had business.

When i was S Florida i was cleaning houses and businesses and competing with Mexican women who were doing more for less money. And it wouldnt have been worth it for me to go lower than they were going. And i paid taxes! I was lisenced. They didnt do any of that....they were just working under the table dirt cheap, and sending money back to relatives.

But yeah im softer about ones that have just lived and worked here. The problem is, where we could turn a blind eye before....thats been so abused i just dont see anyway to deport people while letting the behaved ones off the hook.

Is there is any current legislation regarding these ones? I havent been aware of any bills on their behalf. Even with the damn left sky screaming over it, none of them ever actually DO anything.

I would probably vote in favor of giving them a doable pass to citizen ship.....IF they have been building an ethical life in harmony with American values and participating in American life and not using us for our benefits and turning small towns into little Mexican villages.

I feel so irked when i see Mexican small businesses where fly the Mexican flag and NO US flag. Like the Mexican wouldnt bother me if they flew under the US flag.

I guess what im saying....they need to WANT to be Americans. Not just Mexicans living in America (or whatever other country they came from).

Whats happening in my state with fucking Dearbornistan is putting a very sour taste in my mouth. We were easy on these arabs and they are fucking shitting all over us over here.

It supposed to be hard to become a citizen. It always was. The ones who wanted to be here bad enough to go through the process are VERY proud Americans. And they should be! 

I know my family were immigrants and came here from Ireland. My grandma was a little girl when they finally got citizenship. She had duel citizenship many years. But she took so much pride in being an American.

If we dont file taxes, we are getting into trouble legally. No one is gonna be like "well they work and built an honest life, lets give them a break". I think that opens up a whole conversation about how a person should be held accountable for breaking our laws based on how productive their lives....which many judges will give breaks if a person has a clean record and job and isnt known to be a bane on society.

What would you change about our immigration laws as they are today?

Well said.

Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Dems will start blocking everything and trying desperately to impeach him.

Thats all democrats care about anymore. They just want to stop republicans from getting anything accomplished.

Is that even a question anymore?

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

Gay men like Jo Jo and I want to decouple from the trans agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdBy0tC9qM

Women are leaving the Democratic party.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LI64nAxgA4M

Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Trump will be impeached daily and he'll even egg them on. Honey Badger President DGAF!
https://youtu.be/uFRrePdRq94

Quote from: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:41:48 PMGay men like Jo Jo and I want to decouple from the trans agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdBy0tC9qM

A lot of gay people are done. They have groups. Gays against Groomers. LGB Allience. Get the L Out.

It was gay people who started sounding the alarm on this a long time ago.

The bullying and harrassment of lesbians is ghoulish. They cant even have lesbian dating sites or bars without these troons coming in claiming to be lesbians.  Seriously lesbian dating sites barely even have lesbians anymore. Its just a bunch of busted up dudes in bad make up and moo moos trying to hook up. All the actual lesbians got fed up and bailed lol.

Evidently a troon getting to fuck a lesbian is like the holy grail of "gender euphoria". They call it the "cotton ceiling" and its completely vile.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:30:34 AMWe always had radical islamists over there....unfortunately that population grew a lot.

 And ha! I was gonna guess Toronto. My oldest daughter and her fiance just took a spontaneous trip there to see Twenty One Pilots lol.

I have heard of them but I have not any songs by them.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:38:58 PMDems will start blocking everything and trying desperately to impeach him.

Thats all democrats care about anymore. They just want to stop republicans from getting anything accomplished.

Is that even a question anymore?

My administration is prepared for the radical left's obstructionism.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 08:52:36 PMShen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!

We have a problem among us Whites. I know that and so do you. But, that gal takes it too far.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:59:17 AMNo one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.

Old Joe should talk. Nobody attacks folks because of their real lives more judgmental Joe. What a boring wanker.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

Here is a post I wish I could unsee.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

That settles it for me. White trannies seem like nice normal people.

On Tuesday, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Joseph Edlow announced the results of Operation Twin Shield. The operation — a targeted immigration and citizenship enforcement effort in Minneapolis and St. Paul — found that nearly 50% of cases involved immigration fraud.

Fraud cases included marriage fraud, H-1B visa abuses, forged documents, and "people claiming to work at businesses that can't be found." The operation, which ran September 19-28, included over 1,000 site visits across the metroplex. Edlow said the operation uncovered systemic issues with various immigration programs.

Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:47:04 PMA lot of gay people are done. They have groups. Gays against Groomers. LGB Allience. Get the L Out.

It was gay people who started sounding the alarm on this a long time ago.

The bullying and harrassment of lesbians is ghoulish. They cant even have lesbian dating sites or bars without these troons coming in claiming to be lesbians.  Seriously lesbian dating sites barely even have lesbians anymore. Its just a bunch of busted up dudes in bad make up and moo moos trying to hook up. All the actual lesbians got fed up and bailed lol.

Evidently a troon getting to fuck a lesbian is like the holy grail of "gender euphoria". They call it the "cotton ceiling" and its completely vile.

Lesbians are uncomfortable with trans "women" and for good reason.

Quote from: The Donald on October 01, 2025, 03:27:19 PMMy administration is prepared for the radical left's obstructionism.

Thank you, Mr. President.  Your efforts are highly appreciated.   :good:

Quote from: Thiel on October 02, 2025, 01:05:28 PMLesbians are uncomfortable with trans "women" and for good reason.

Dikes want to be with other biological gals. Not some guy named Mike who calls himself Michelle.

Quote from: Herman on October 02, 2025, 09:10:56 PMDikes want to be with other biological gals. Not some guy named Mike who calls himself Michelle.

You mean Mrs. Obama.

I know most of my conservative brethren disagree and that's fine

but this is the narrative that begins to propagate when you show up to work sties and grab some little mexican just going through his day working for pennies on the dollar to support himself.

Again, I speak of the people committing NO crimes other than the one that orignally got them here. Arresting them allows the scum on the left to push this narrative and produce these types of thoughts into people who might otherwise support the process if we confined it to the real criminals

There are plenty criminals to keep us busy for quite some time

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All illegal immigrants should be deported. To do otherwise spits in the face of legal immigrants and encourages more illegal immigration. I don't care what job they are doing. They have to go. Period.

I'd gas all illegals like a bunch of fukin jews and then go out to The Lucky Dill in Tampa for lunch! BITCH!!!

Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 09, 2025, 12:34:57 AMAll illegal immigrants should be deported. To do otherwise spits in the face of legal immigrants and encourages more illegal immigration. I don't care what job they are doing. They have to go. Period.

I too believe the law must be enforced. But, those that have lived and worked in the US for many years should have their cases for reentry expedited in their home countries.

Quote from: DKG on October 09, 2025, 07:27:10 AMI too believe the law must be enforced. But, those that have lived and worked in the US for many years should have their cases for reentry expedited in their home countries.

Why?

Quote from: Lokmar on October 09, 2025, 01:09:01 AMI'd gas all illegals like a bunch of fukin jews and then go out to The Lucky Dill in Tampa for lunch! BITCH!!!

I support amnesty for illegals in America...Lokmar.

You gotta show compassion for those less fortunate than yerself  Bud.

Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 10, 2025, 01:13:07 AMWhy?

I think I get what you are saying. They broke the law why should they get preferential treatment.

I should have added if they had kids born in the US or young kids who were raised in the US.

Quote from: DKG on October 09, 2025, 07:27:10 AMI too believe the law must be enforced. But, those that have lived and worked in the US for many years should have their cases for reentry expedited in their home countries.

Why, because they broke the law longer?

Quote from: Lokmar on October 10, 2025, 09:29:54 AMWhy, because they broke the law longer?

Trump is too rough on illegals ...Lokmar!

Remember what yer fellow Christians asked of St Trump...Lokmar.


...ta show mercy upon them, eh.

Ya gotta follow the good book & what the pastors say

Quote from: DKG on October 10, 2025, 07:25:25 AMI think I get what you are saying. They broke the law why should they get preferential treatment.

I should have added if they had kids born in the US or young kids who were raised in the US.

Consider the case of someone like Ilhan Omar, a democrat party representative who, after marrying her own brother to secure citizenship, has found herself in a position to be able to argue for legislation focused more on helping those in her native country of Somalia than the country's peoples she should rightfully be governing for, namely the United States of America. This is a classic case of someone who is all about destroying the society she finds herself in and profiteering, not just for herself, but any and everyone she can shoehorn in from the third world shithole she hails from.

Now imagine that she were born on US soil and because of birthright was eligible for the presidency, able to write executive orders that (among other things) would conceivably flood the US with "gimmedats" from Somalia at the expense of genuine US citizens who would effectively become slaves at that point.

I'll ask that you pause reading at this point before continuing. Give yourself time to let the ramifications truly sink in.

Now consider the anchor babies you invoked above, that they seemingly ought to provide some measure of clemency for the criminal class that broke into the country, took slave wages and drove the cost of labour through the floor and created a measure of relative poverty for the legally recognized citizens of the US. Maybe you can argue the anchor babies have a right to remain in the US and I cannot fault you on a legal footing if you should. They do however represent a ticking timebomb in terms of future generational governance in the country, particularly if they are subject to the kinds of brainwashing their illegally present parents are capable of inculcating in them.

Luckily, kicking out the illegals carries the added bonus of said parents being asked if they wish to take their legal US citizen babies with them. Most of them demand their parental rights and will take themselves and their progeny back to the third world with them. Which, as ugly as the prospect assuredly is for your average bleeding heart liberal wankspasm (hi JoHoMo) is still a better option than handing the future of the US nation to a bunch of impressionable young kiddiewinks who are yet to grow up into the next generation of Ilhan Omars, marrying within their own family for the purposes of genociding the US population out of existence. Something that is an even likelier prospect if people who are steeped in their non-US foreign cultures and who broke into the country with little to no intent of assimilating into the US culture are around to set the bad examples those anchor babies will grow up around.

You are free to disagree of course and I am free to call any arguments you levy in defense of your position ill-thought out and potentially downright dangerous. I would remind you here that I am not arguing against legal immigration here, certainly not multiculturalism. The fact is that both can be beneficial in measured doses. Too much of either can be lethal to an indigent culture and you already know this just by looking outside your own front door.

In sum, if you are in the country without the proper authority to be, you are part of the problem. Looking for reasons to go easy on some illegals and not others invites more problems than it solves, moreover with the sheer amount of human cattle that democrats AND republicans have allowed in and turned a blind eye to since Reagan's amnesty in the eighties you cannot tell me that there are the time and resources to process each on a case by case basis.

How about this; the US enacts new legislation that annuls the citizenship of anchor babies with no legitimate parent that is a recognized US citizen? Perhaps with legal recognisance of a US parent's constitutional rights to raise their children, anchor baby or otherwise, taking precedence over some river-jumper?

We might see some movement in that direction after the midterms. I sure hope so...  for the US's sake. Along with any other nation whose fortunes are dependent on the US remaining functional. Major trading partners (hi Canada) should be screaming for it.

Quote from: JOE on October 10, 2025, 09:40:49 AMRemember what yer fellow Christians asked of St Trump...Lokmar.

...ta show mercy upon them, eh.

Ya gotta follow the good book & what the pastors say

Yes, have mercy on the immigrants and kick out the criminals... just like the legal immigrants want us to do.

Bet you and your mealy mouthed child trafficking pastor (allegedly) didn't see that argument coming.... JoHoMo!  :s_laugh:

Quote from: . on October 10, 2025, 10:33:04 AMHow about this; the US enacts new legislation that annuls the citizenship of anchor babies with no legitimate parent that is a recognized US citizen? Perhaps with legal recognisance of a US parent's constitutional rights to raise their children, anchor baby or otherwise, taking precedence over some river-jumper?

If a law were passed saying "Ater this date automatic citizenship no longer applies..." then I could accept that. But if that kid is already a citizen then nope, he has the same Constitution rights as the rest of us. Stripping someone of their citizenship just because of who their parents are, that's way too Hitler/Stalin/Orwellian to even think about considering.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 10, 2025, 04:39:46 PMIf a law were passed saying "Ater this date automatic citizenship no longer applies..." then I could accept that. But if that kid is already a citizen then nope, he has the same Constitution rights as the rest of us. Stripping someone of their citizenship just because of who their parents are, that's way too Hitler/Stalin/Orwellian to even think about considering.

This problem is very similar in nature to Social Security.

At what point do we change a broken system and how do we handle the problem fairly for all of those who have paid into it for decades

Myself for instance. For me social security has capped out at the maximum for the last 30 years. So at a rate of approximately 18,000.00 per year multiplied by 30, adjusted for inflation and factoring in earned interest I'd accept a pay out of 750K right now in lieu of the 5424.00 a month they are set to owe me upon retirement.

Provided a few conditions exist of course. they cannot tax that 750K payout and all payments into social security must end immediately.

Under such an arraignment I would happily take my money and go

otherwise, fuck that, I'm expecting my monthly payouts when I retire.

I think the dilemma surrounding birthright is similar. From today forward it must end but how do we properly handle previous cases justly?

I don't have an answer for that one.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 10, 2025, 04:39:46 PMIf a law were passed saying "Ater this date automatic citizenship no longer applies..." then I could accept that. But if that kid is already a citizen then nope, he has the same Constitution rights as the rest of us. Stripping someone of their citizenship just because of who their parents are, that's way too Hitler/Stalin/Orwellian to even think about considering.

And right there is the angle the left will use to beat you into submission. Sorry friend, but the line you draw in all likelihood represents the vector that will be used to render these anchor babies as your grandchildren's eventual rulers and slave drivers.

I do get it though; the US constitution iand its associated bill of rights is an important document for you as it is for many Americans. But it is also being weaponized against you. In time you may even come to understand how. I hope it is not too late for you to push successfully for an amendment to patch against the danger the US is in.

One thing I'm interested in hearing from you, and it's this; just how do you determine my proposal to be "way too Hitler/Stalin/Orwellian"? Hitler as I understand it was into sending his "undesireables" to camps to be gassed, experimented upon, worked to death, shot et al, Stalin was a proponent of gulags and "disappearing" his. Orwell? His was a fiction that included torture and wholesale brainwashing, not too dissimilar to what the left is being forced to endure.

I guess I'm trying to see how you arrive at the conflation of totalitarianism with deportation of children whose parents are illegally within US borders and subject to deportation themselves. I submit that the granting of citizenship to the children of those people ostensibly outside of the constitution's provisions (itself a document for the people of the US and not its invading hordes... is a mistake the founding fathers never foresaw coming. I am certainly not calling for the death of anchor babies, nor any privations regarding them or indeed their parents, criminals as they assuredly are.

Are you certain you are not buying into the left's rhetoric on the matter?

And we wonder why illegal immigration is where its at?

We either have immigration laws or we don't. Congress can change those laws at any time. Until then the laws on the books are the law.

The weak knees I see hear mystify me. We need to send a resounding message to the world: Don't come here illegally. Failure to carry through because illegals had babies here is sending the opposite message.

PS> it is not Stalinesque to protect your borders. To think so is to join with the Liberals who decry the work of ICE.

Quote from: Lokmar on October 10, 2025, 09:29:54 AMWhy, because they broke the law longer?

Because they have shown they can contribute to the US.

Quote from: DKG on October 11, 2025, 05:37:44 AMBecause they have shown they can contribute to the US.

Like helping to force wages down and decrease living standards? Yeah, I think you'd be singing a totally different song if your income got impacted by a slave underclass forced to undercut your service/product at every turn just so they could eat.

And what of the 30,000+ illegal immigrant children that went missing during the Biden administration? Perchance we might consider their contribution to the American way of life. Sweatshop labour is likely their best outcome, it sure beats the sex work that Epstein's replacements are doubtless flourishing with, or being farmed to the Hollywood elite as blood bags and their organs harvested for the international body parts racket maybe.

Wherever you draw the line on illegal immigrants contributions, you will find people pushing for more. Stop kidding yourself that you are doing these people favours, you're sounding like a bloody leftie.

Quote from: . on October 11, 2025, 06:03:29 AMLike helping to force wages down and decrease living standards? Yeah, I think you'd be singing a totally different song if your income got impacted by a slave underclass forced to undercut your service/product at every turn just so they could eat.

And what of the 30,000+ illegal immigrant children that went missing during the Biden administration? Perchance we might consider their contribution to the American way of life. Sweatshop labour is likely their best outcome, it sure beats the sex work that Epstein's replacements are doubtless flourishing with, or being farmed to the Hollywood elite as blood bags and their organs harvested for the international body parts racket maybe.

Wherever you draw the line on illegal immigrants contributions, you will find people pushing for more. Stop kidding yourself that you are doing these people favours, you're sounding like a bloody leftie.

This the result of overpopulation which the Republican Party is promoting or pushing.

50 years ago before some of ya like Shen Li Shen were born, the world population was less than half of what it is today.

Surprise Surprise...the world was in much better shape.

Fast forward 50 years....the population has doubled to over 8 billion. Illegal migration is just another symptom of overpopulation which should have been addressed 50 years ago when the Club of Rome was warning us about it.

I remembered that back in 1973 or 74 and nobody was listening. They just wanted to make fucking babies.

We've added more people in half a century to this planet than existed for all the prior millennia. No wonder there isn't enough to go around.

50 years ago organizations like UNICEF were pushing feed the hungry children in Africa when they should have been feeding them a cocktail of birth control instead.

The funny thing about Malthusian economics... it's adherents almost never offer to be a part of its solution by offing themselves.

Quote from: . on October 10, 2025, 05:25:23 PMOne thing I'm interested in hearing from you, and it's this; just how do you determine my proposal to be "way too Hitler/Stalin/Orwellian"?

"We're taking away your citizenship because your parents were illegal aliens" - once you accept that it becomes "because your parents are jews", "because your parents are Republicans", "because you have green eyes"...

When the kid was born the law clearly stated the child is automatically a citizen. Was the law mistaken? Perhaps. But it was the law of the land at the time and we must honor it. Because if we don't follow the law then why do we even bother making any.

Just the way I see it.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 11, 2025, 11:38:30 AM"We're taking away your citizenship because your parents were illegal aliens" - once you accept that it becomes "because your parents are jews", "because your parents are Republicans", "because you have green eyes"...

When the kid was born the law clearly stated the child is automatically a citizen. Was the law mistaken? Perhaps. But it was the law of the land at the time and we must honor it. Because if we don't follow the law then why do we even bother making any.

Just the way I see it.

Here is how I see it. If your parents were in the country illegally you were given citizenship for political reasons.

That was a mistake and now you have to get the hell out because your citizenship was improperly granted. Nice knowing you, adios.

Both sides make good arguments

but I tend to lean more in favor of Ollie's position. The law of the land at the time of birth states clearly that a person born here is a citizen. there was no room for interpretation as the verbiage is very clear

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

is it a provision that has been abused like any other well meaning provision? yes. But are we allowed to temporarily dispense of any portion of the constitution because we don't like the outcome? no. For that would be no different than the argument libtards attempt to erect regarding the second amendment. Namely, that our forefathers never envisioned automatic weapons of war this deadly and had they seen such firepower in it's unmitigated form they would have never supported the idea of bearing arms in the first place. that is a complete assumption which has no basis in fact or fairness and is ludicrous on it's face.

Same with the 14th amendment. ANY PERSON BORN HERE is what the text states. that is clear and unambiguous and NOT subject to any alternative interpretation. So either we respect it or we don't and if we decide not to where does that line end.

The goal should be NOT to allow them to get here in the first place. NOT to punish the sons and daughters of people who have committed past crimes .I cannot support that.

Quote from: Brent on October 11, 2025, 12:02:50 PMHere is how I see it. If your parents were in the country illegally you were given citizenship for political reasons.

That was a mistake and now you have to get the hell out because your citizenship was improperly granted. Nice knowing you, adios.

If it was a mistake then that's our fault, not the kids fault. We have to accept the consequences of our mistake, learn from our mistake, adjust the laws accordingly, and move on from there.

You can't go to a roulette wheel and put twenty bucks on number 17 and when number 18 comes up say "Oh, I made a mistake, I really meant to put it on number 18" and expect a payout. Doesn't work that way. If a kid gains citizenship because of a mistake we made, well that lucky kid just hit the jackpot.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 11, 2025, 12:20:47 PMIf it was a mistake then that's our fault, not the kids fault. We have to accept the consequences of our mistake, learn from our mistake, adjust the laws accordingly, and move on from there.

You can't go to a roulette wheel and put twenty bucks on number 17 and when number 18 comes up say "Oh, I made a mistake, I really meant to put it on number 18" and expect a payout. Doesn't work that way. If a kid gains citizenship because of a mistake we made, well that lucky kid just hit the jackpot.

100%

I think our conservative brethren think we are in favor of the continued allowance to rampant abuse of a poorly worded provision in our constitution.

we are not. At least I am certain I am not.

What I am for is living up to the verbiage as it is written in the constitution and amending that verbiage through the proper provisions outlined within that very same document verbiage once it is clear that the wording was flawed at the time of writing or the landscape and passage of time has changed the circumstance so drastically so as to render well constructed verbiage obsolete or otherwise ineffective.

THAT is the process I support. Attempting to reverse the intent of the framers based upon the visible outcome is a very slippery slope which never leads to a stable outcome.

In my mind we adjust the verbiage to make abuse much more difficult, we stop electing scumbags who see illegals as votes rather than human beings, deprive idiots who cannot pass a simple questionnaire regarding the function of our system or persons with foreign interests the right to vote so that we do not end up with 1000 more Ilhan Omars and strengthen the defense of our borders.

Do all that and grandfathering in several hundred thousand, even several million, citizens who, today, are productive members of society will not have the grave consequences our conservative brethren seem to think it will have.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 11, 2025, 12:20:47 PMIf it was a mistake then that's our fault, not the kids fault. We have to accept the consequences of our mistake, learn from our mistake, adjust the laws accordingly, and move on from there.

You can't go to a roulette wheel and put twenty bucks on number 17 and when number 18 comes up say "Oh, I made a mistake, I really meant to put it on number 18" and expect a payout. Doesn't work that way. If a kid gains citizenship because of a mistake we made, well that lucky kid just hit the jackpot.

That is how it has to be. Children should not be punished for the sins of their parents.

And if that was the law of the land it must be honoured. I believe it should change. But, the kids that were covered under old laws must not be stripped of their citizenship. They must be granfathered in.

Quote from: . on October 11, 2025, 11:13:34 AMThe funny thing about Malthusian economics... it's adherents almost never offer to be a part of its solution by offing themselves.

Oh but I am part of the solution, "."

I've decided not to have any children which would add to the woes of the world.

The fewer babies we pump out, the fewer problems it creates later on for the planet.

If happenstance I ever get the urge to make a baby or 2, I'll make damn sure I'm self sufficient, can pay for them, grow my own food, shelter & feed them without burdening the system like many of these migrants do. They have this mentality "Fuck Now, think later."

Another alternative to having children without adding problems is to adopt or marrying someone already with children, and not having any of yer own.

Any way you look at it, having/raising children should be a net zero outcome where the would be parents don't burden the system or anyone else.

In reality those migrants from 3rd world nations are irresponsible because they pumped out babies without figgering out how to pay for em.

Even ancient peoples in biblical times the ancestorsof these 3rd world migrants figgered out a system of family planning & they knew how to ration the resources they had available

Quote from: JOE on October 11, 2025, 01:04:58 PMOh but I am part of the solution, "."

I've decided not to have any children which would add to the woes of the world.

The fewer babies we pump out, the fewer problems it creates later on for the planet.

If happenstance I ever get the urge to make a baby, I'll make sure I'm self sufficient, can grow my own food, shelter & feed them without burdening the system like many of these migrants have it do. They have this mentality "Fuck Now, think later."

Another alternative to having children without adding problems is to adopt or marrying someone already with children, and not having any of yer own.

Any way you look at it, having/raising children should be a net zero outcome where the would be parents don't burden the system or anyone else.

In reality those migrants from 3rd world nations are irresponsible because they pumped out babies without figgering out how to pay for em.

Even ancient peoples in biblical times the ancestorsof these 3rd world migrants figgered out a system of family planning & they knew how to ration the resources they had available

Sweetie, remember when we tried to adopt an African child. They said you were too old. We came home and you cried on my shoulder for an hour.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 11, 2025, 11:38:30 AM"We're taking away your citizenship because your parents were illegal aliens" - once you accept that it becomes "because your parents are jews", "because your parents are Republicans", "because you have green eyes"..

Respectfully, I disagree. But it does at least as a useful benchmark to argue from.

Consider; the left has been using this as the basis for the argument for clemency in cases of illegals, allowing them to remain in the country (and often on the taxpayer dime) because they shat out an anchor on US soil. "Think of the children" and all. Hell, I see a few on the right nodding their heads in agreement. Bleeding hearts is as bleeding hearts does and I would be lying if I claimed it was preferable to my sensibilities to advocate for ripping a child from its parents, not even if I were absolutely certain that the primary (or even sole) reason for this child's very existence was to function as a bargaining chip to force the nation to accept its parents presence on its soil and under sufferance.

And it isn't as if the sweaty "bump and grind" that produces these fresh faced young Americans has to happen on US soil either. The policy as it currently stands effectively means that any expecting mother can waddle across the Rio Grande, spread her legs and burp out a mewling cabbage patch kid (or three) and have it automatically counted as a US citizen. Welfare, voting rights (eventually), the whole kit and kaboodle.

You invoked George Orwell, I'll see your George and raise you a John Wyndham. He wrote a few allegories that apply here, principle among them being "The Midwich Cuckoos" (used as the basis for the movie "The Village of the Damned"). Another work of his that bears mentioning would be "The Chrysalids". Both serve as cautionary tales of where citizenship due to accident of birth might be leveraged against a society. The former is of particular note, given that every woman and girl capable of childbirth suddenly found themselves pregnant with children who demonstrated the unchallenged ability to enforce their collective will against the society they found themselves in, whereas the latter is an example of a group of people who were "othered" by the fundamentalist society they were born into and at risk of sterilization and banishment had they remained. It should also be noted the aforementioned fundamentalist state sent its agents after the fleeing party for the purposes of rendering "judgement" on what it considered were "blasphemies in the eye of God", something I doubt either of us would be arguing for in our current discussion, though it might strike a chord with someone like brother Lokmar.

I think I know you well enough through your posts to avoid mischaracterizing you as someone that wishes to see the US fail as a nation, I imagine you hold the constitution as sacrosanct and that this is the lynchpin of your arguments for what you interpret as what makes for its enduring and laudable traits. You don't strike me as a progtard that is hellbent on tearing it all down, so we both have that much in common at least. At the risk of belabouring an earlier made point, the US constitution has been weighed and found wanting before; that's why there exist 27 amendments to it. So making considered argument for adjusting it is far from "unprecedented". Indeed, considering that the US appears to have been invaded and systematically undermined over the better part of a century, I'd submit further amendment is necessary to guard against it being dissolved utterly in the years ahead; furthermore that due to the sheer scale of the invasion, we are not afforded the luxury of time to wrangle unduly over the minutia of such amendment.

So the problem seems clear; namely a bunch of anchor babies (explicitly the cohort where neither parent enjoyed citizenship) find themselves in possession of citizenship in a country where a substantial percentage of its citizens are arguing for a blind eye to the criminality that led to the anchor babies being born in the first place. Ideally this loophole needs be closed and serious consideration given to the annulment of existing citizenships already granted in bad faith under its rubrick.

And before you mistake this for Hitlerian tactics, I should remind you that the jews Adolph and his merry band of goose-steppers kicked out of Germany to places like Palestine (at least before the outbreak of World War 2) were largely a multi-generational group of Germans in their own right, documented as such in the 1933 census and not a bunch of alien criminals parachuted in to fuck up the German state in the wake of their little party  circa 1914-18. Oh sure, such critters existed in Germany at the time, you couldn't run a business without a DEI hire in a yamulka controlling the purse strings after the Treaty of Versailles, but the holocaust was the indiscriminate displacement and/or execution of ALL jewry, irrespective of how much tenure they enjoyed. So quite different from the suggestion I made earlier. It is also matter of record that the Third Reich were already wholly against the idea of creating a Jewish state in Palestine (ie: Israel) by the outbreak of World War 2, whereas I recognize the anchor babies have statehood of their own by their parents case, so fuck it - US citizenship would appear superfluous be extension anyway.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 11, 2025, 11:38:30 AMWhen the kid was born the law clearly stated the child is automatically a citizen. Was the law mistaken? Perhaps. But it was the law of the land at the time and we must honor it. Because if we don't follow the law then why do we even bother making any.

You honour it until such time as you determine that it is being used to hang you. Then you revisit it and make the necessary adjustments to loosen the chokehold about your neck. We do it with tariffs, why not with amendments to the constitution? At the end of the day your most pressing contract should be to yourself and the environment under which you operate. Charity is fine, I indulge in it myself and I applaud it in others, but when someone shows up and demands I grab my ankles and take it up the hoop because The Law demands it then we have a problem. I will look at ways to redress that problem, even should it mean I need to go to the mat and get called a nazi for defending my "inalienable god given rights". As I defend yours here, even though I find myself in opposition to some of their outgrowths. You are after all a citizen of citizens, you have free will and a brain to exercise it.

Entertaining the creation of an oppositionary force within you own country's borders is affording your opponent the vector to take your shit from you. I see that problem metastasizing and recommend immediate legal and political remedy. The expulsion of foreign state actors and undocumented economic opportunists is legally provided for, demanding citizenship for their US born progeny invites future financial/legal/political repercussions. Allowing the threat to fester outside your borders for eventual return is marginally better in the short term and you should at least enjoy some kind of check and balance at your disposal to determine if they pose a genuine threat or not. Giving them carte blanche to waltz in and out as they please just seems dumb.

And if they've no intention of returning at all, then fine. It's not like they asked to be a citizen in the first place, rescinding it won't affect them at all.

Quote from: JOE on October 11, 2025, 10:43:41 AMThis the result of overpopulation which the Republican Party is promoting or pushing.

50 years ago before some of ya like Shen Li Shen were born, the world population was less than half of what it is today.

Surprise Surprise...the world was in much better shape.

Fast forward 50 years....the population has doubled to over 8 billion. Illegal migration is just another symptom of overpopulation which should have been addressed 50 years ago when the Club of Rome was warning us about it.

I remembered that back in 1973 or 74 and nobody was listening. They just wanted to make fucking babies.

We've added more people in half a century to this planet than existed for all the prior millennia. No wonder there isn't enough to go around.

50 years ago organizations like UNICEF were pushing feed the hungry children in Africa when they should have been feeding them a cocktail of birth control instead.

Kill all liberals, problem solved!

IDGAF about the kids that were born here. We dont need to deal with that whatsoever.

Are you here illegally? GTFO. Got kids THAT WERE BORN HERE? Either take em with you or hand em over to a relative, friend, or the government. Kids not born here? GTFO!

Born citizenship is an issue for SCOTUS to revisit. We'll be deporting illegals for the rest of my life before we need to worry about next steps.

Quote from: Lokmar on October 12, 2025, 01:26:58 PMKill all liberals, problem solved!

But then who'd rein ya in if ya stepped over the line...Lokmar?!

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 10, 2025, 04:54:16 PMThis problem is very similar in nature to Social Security.

At what point do we change a broken system and how do we handle the problem fairly for all of those who have paid into it for decades

Myself for instance. For me social security has capped out at the maximum for the last 30 years. So at a rate of approximately 18,000.00 per year multiplied by 30, adjusted for inflation and factoring in earned interest I'd accept a pay out of 750K right now in lieu of the 5424.00 a month they are set to owe me upon retirement.

Provided a few conditions exist of course. they cannot tax that 750K payout and all payments into social security must end immediately.

Under such an arraignment I would happily take my money and go

otherwise, fuck that, I'm expecting my monthly payouts when I retire.

I think the dilemma surrounding birthright is similar. From today forward it must end but how do we properly handle previous cases justly?

I don't have an answer for that one.

I keep hearing that Social Security in the US is nearly bankrupt Biggie Smiles Bigly.


So if that's correct, there may not be any pensions waitin' fer future retirees in America eh? That's why it may be advisable for folks like my good friend Lokmar ta,retire soon eh. So he can get at least some a that pension money in yer country.

I don't have that problem myself since I've already started gettin my pension. Truth be known I don't think I put in as much as I'll be gettin out eh. Personally I plan ta live a long time. By then I'll have received far more pension money than I contributed.

Actually I'm kind of a lazy bugger but heck if the guv wants ta give it to me, I'm all for it. Free healthcare. Free this, free that.

Socialism works, eh.

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2025, 04:02:51 PMI keep hearing that Social Security in the US is nearly bankrupt Biggie Smiles Bigly.

So if that's correct, there may not be any pensions waitin' fer future retirees in America eh? That's why it may be advisable for folks like my good friend Lokmar ta,retire soon eh. So he can get at least some a that pension money in yer country.

I don't have that problem myself since I've already started gettin my pension. Truth be known I don't think I put in as much as I'll be gettin out eh. Personally I plan ta live a long time. By then I'll have received far more pension money than I contributed.

Actually I'm kind of a lazy bugger but heck if the guv wants ta give it to me, I'm all for it. Free healthcare. Free this, free that.

Socialism works, eh.

Fuk SSI. Its a rip off and ponzi scheme thats already bankrupted because libtards gave all the money away to undesirables. 

Quote from: Lokmar on October 12, 2025, 01:35:07 PMIDGAF about the kids that were born here. We dont need to deal with that whatsoever.

Are you here illegally? GTFO. Got kids THAT WERE BORN HERE? Either take em with you or hand em over to a relative, friend, or the government.

Nah, don't codify handing them to the government into law, the whole idea of a relative taking charge of them is to keep them OFF the public dime. And you just know that should the democrats ever get back into office they'll be disappearing kids off into underaged sexual slavery, medical experiments and organ harvesting programs like the 30,000 kids that went missing under Joe Biden's watch.

Otherwise you're bang on the money. Anchor babies fortunate enough to have a US citizen for a parent who is prepared to care and nurture them get to stay. Those that don't.... "fuck off, we're full". And make it constitutionally clear bu amendment that the actual "anchor" in the arrangement needs to be a US citizen so you don't end up with a line of mexcrement tith their feet in the Rio Grande mud and their twats fanny farting potential fifth columnists into the fray. Fuck that noise, fuck them and fuck anyone that disagrees; the whole "give me your huddled masses" should not be used to undermine the 330 million stakeholders in the US that are here legally.

Quote from: Lokmar on October 12, 2025, 04:26:50 PMFuk SSI. Its a rip off and ponzi scheme thats already bankrupted because libtards gave all the money away to undesirables. 

Whatcha gonna do in retirement if tharz no pension...Lokmar?!?

I hate ta see ya without a pension...Bud!

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2025, 04:39:55 PMWhatcha gonna do in retirement if tharz no pension...Lokmar?!?

I hate ta see ya without a pension...Bud!

I'll die before it runs out. My family doesnt see old age so thats why I'm taking my money soon.

Quote from: Lokmar on October 12, 2025, 04:43:28 PMI'll die before it runs out. My family doesnt see old age so thats why I'm taking my money soon.

Ya better, Bud.

I knowz ya had a few bouts of covid so that musta shortened yer life by at least a year or 2 ...Lokmar.

I never caught it so that should extend my life by at least 10 years or more, eh.

Long life runs in my family

Minimum 90.

I might live ta be 100 eh.

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2025, 04:49:47 PMYa better, Bud.

I knowz ya had a few bouts of covid so that musta shortened yer life by at least a year or 2 ...Lokmar.

I never caught it so that should extend my life by at least 10 years or more, eh.

Long life runs in my family

Minimum 90.

I might live ta be 100 eh.

COVID did nothing to me because I didnt get the jab like you. The jab cut 15 years off your life.

Quote from: . on October 12, 2025, 04:36:06 PMNah, don't codify handing them to the government into law, the whole idea of a relative taking charge of them is to keep them OFF the public dime. And you just know that should the democrats ever get back into office they'll be disappearing kids off into underaged sexual slavery, medical experiments and organ harvesting programs like the 30,000 kids that went missing under Joe Biden's watch.

Otherwise you're bang on the money. Anchor babies fortunate enough to have a US citizen for a parent who is prepared to care and nurture them get to stay. Those that don't.... "fuck off, we're full". And make it constitutionally clear bu amendment that the actual "anchor" in the arrangement needs to be a US citizen so you don't end up with a line of mexcrement tith their feet in the Rio Grande mud and their twats fanny farting potential fifth columnists into the fray. Fuck that noise, fuck them and fuck anyone that disagrees; the whole "give me your huddled masses" should not be used to undermine the 330 million stakeholders in the US that are here legally.

I could be wrong but I believe the figure was twice as high.

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2025, 03:13:05 PMBut then who'd rein ya in if ya stepped over the line...Lokmar?!

You would like Lokmar to "reign" over you wouldn't you honeybunch.

Quote from: JOE on October 12, 2025, 04:49:47 PMYa better, Bud.

I knowz ya had a few bouts of covid so that musta shortened yer life by at least a year or 2 ...Lokmar.

I never caught it so that should extend my life by at least 10 years or more, eh.

Long life runs in my family

Minimum 90.

I might live ta be 100 eh.

Sweetie, sitting is the new smoking.

As I told you after we had sex last night you have shortened your life by at least ten years by sitting down and posting on forums all day.

And you are over seventy. So, at your age and with your sedentary lifestyle you should be thankful for each day above ground.

Quote from: DKG on October 13, 2025, 10:37:32 AMI could be wrong but I believe the figure was twice as high.

I've heard a few figures tossed about, all of them significant non-zero amounts. For the purposes of the argument, the actual figure is (I think) purely academic, the real issue being that the government ought not be allowed to continue the egregious practice of separating children from their parents and "forgetting" what happened to them.

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's". The rearing of a child is the responsibility of its parents, it is not the responsibility of the state, certainly not the responsibility of a state that has demonstrated periods of inefficiency and gross incompetence. We already pay taxes for that expression of inefficiency, sacrificing sections of the next generation to its incompetence is criminal. "Of the people, for the people" remember; the government is mandated not to own us, but to serve us.

So when Lokmar says "hand [the kids] over to a friend or relative" I am in agreement with him. When he options the government as an acceptable surrogate, then I disagree. My argument is really that simple, I've no guarantee of the government acting in the best interests of kids it did not produce; it might very well do so and doubtless at great expense to the taxpayer, it might also treat them as cattle, future democrat voters if you will. And my taxes are not paying for that, not without a fight.

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^^^ Post of the month!!!   :s_laugh:

if they're here illegally and working, chances are they're here illegally and voting as well.... and if they're working, chances are they're working for less than american wages.... its easy to work for less when you get free healthcare.... and if they're getting free healthcare, chances are they get snap benefits as well.... now they're taking american jobs, competing for american houses, receiving american benefits, taking american tax money and voting in american elections.... unacceptable.... deport these ppl.... fuck due process.... throw em over the wall with a fuckin catapult.... we don't have the infrastructure to give them hearings and its a slap in the face to real immigrants who are lined up and waiting to come here legally.... and the bottom line is this - they're here illegally and you either support illegal immigration or you don't....

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 14, 2025, 01:21:36 AMif they're here illegally and working, chances are they're here illegally and voting as well.... and if they're working, chances are they're working for less than american wages.... its easy to work for less when you get free healthcare.... and if they're getting free healthcare, chances are they get snap benefits as well.... now they're taking american jobs, competing for american houses, receiving american benefits, taking american tax money and voting in american elections.... unacceptable.... deport these ppl.... fuck due process.... throw em over the wall with a fuckin catapult.... we don't have the infrastructure to give them hearings and its a slap in the face to real immigrants who are lined up and waiting to come here legally.... and the bottom line is this - they're here illegally and you either support illegal immigration or you don't....

The only way I'd be in favor of illegal immigration is that every Latina looked like the twin sister of Salma Hayek.  GIGGETY!

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 14, 2025, 01:21:36 AMif they're here illegally and working, chances are they're here illegally and voting as well.... and if they're working, chances are they're working for less than american wages.... its easy to work for less when you get free healthcare.... and if they're getting free healthcare, chances are they get snap benefits as well.... now they're taking american jobs, competing for american houses, receiving american benefits, taking american tax money and voting in american elections.... unacceptable.... deport these ppl.... fuck due process.... throw em over the wall with a fuckin catapult.... we don't have the infrastructure to give them hearings and its a slap in the face to real immigrants who are lined up and waiting to come here legally.... and the bottom line is this - they're here illegally and you either support illegal immigration or you don't....

One hundred percent buddy. Best post!

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on October 14, 2025, 09:26:23 AMThe only way I'd be in favor of illegal immigration is that every Latina looked like the twin sister of Salma Hayek.  GIGGETY!

i thought i hit "funny".... i can't tell which icon does what.... its not a "sad" post....   

Quote from: Brent on October 14, 2025, 11:51:54 AMOne hundred percent buddy. Best post!

whazzup, brother. how you been? i don't get down to this neck of the woods often.... its nice here.... i'm used to seeing "orange man bad" everywhere i go....  :crampe: 

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 14, 2025, 02:58:23 PMi thought i hit "funny".... i can't tell which icon does what.... its not a "sad" post....   

It's all good.   :drunk2:

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 14, 2025, 03:00:41 PMwhazzup, brother. how you been? i don't get down to this neck of the woods often.... its nice here.... i'm used to seeing "orange man bad" everywhere i go....  :crampe: 

I am retired and loving it.

I know all I about the orange man bad syndrome. I don't watch msm anymore. None of it.

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Quote from: Brent on October 15, 2025, 01:55:17 PMI am retired and loving it.

I know all I about the orange man bad syndrome. I don't watch msm anymore. None of it.

i don't want to "retire".... i kinda like working.... but i'd like to know i "could afford" to retire.... some days i feel like i'm in "survival mode" and i hate that.... i've got a nice chunk in the bank but i don't think its enough to "see me all the way to the door".... so i just keep grinding for now....

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 17, 2025, 02:06:22 PMi don't want to "retire".... i kinda like working.... but i'd like to know i "could afford" to retire.... some days i feel like i'm in "survival mode" and i hate that.... i've got a nice chunk in the bank but i don't think its enough to "see me all the way to the door".... so i just keep grinding for now....

Early retirment is one of the perks of working for a class one railway. I could not wait to go.

I wish I could talk my nurse wife into retiring. I want to retire outside Canada.

Quote from: Brent on October 18, 2025, 11:43:09 AMEarly retirment is one of the perks of working for a class one railway. I could not wait to go.

I wish I could talk my nurse wife into retiring. I want to retire outside Canada.

if you want to leave canada, you should probably hurry.... i have a feeling all the doors are about to be locked....

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 18, 2025, 11:49:08 AMif you want to leave canada, you should probably hurry.... i have a feeling all the doors are about to be locked....

I think you are talking about the exit tax Carney has been hinting at.

We have our eyes open. We are ready to act quick if he does that.

Quote from: Brent on October 18, 2025, 11:51:58 AMI think you are talking about the exit tax Carney has been hinting at.

We have our eyes open. We are ready to act quick if he does that.

yeah.... theres not much time for sleeping these days....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 18, 2025, 11:56:16 AMyeah.... theres not much time for sleeping these days....  :crampe:

You have to sleep with your eyes open in Canada with the Liberals in the palace in Ottawa. If not you wake up with your money gone, your home equity, your rifles, and your freedom to speak your mind.

Quote from: Brent on October 18, 2025, 12:10:06 PMYou have to sleep with your eyes open in Canada with the Liberals in the palace in Ottawa. If not you wake up with your money gone, your home equity, your rifles, and your freedom to speak your mind.

they need to advertize that on billboards.... all our liberals will move there by the end of the week....

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 18, 2025, 12:12:20 PMthey need to advertize that on billboards.... all our liberals will move there by the end of the week....

NO!

Quote from: Brent on October 18, 2025, 12:18:58 PMNO!

what do you care? you're leaving anyway....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 17, 2025, 02:06:22 PMi don't want to "retire".... i kinda like working.... but i'd like to know i "could afford" to retire.... some days i feel like i'm in "survival mode" and i hate that.... i've got a nice chunk in the bank but i don't think its enough to "see me all the way to the door".... so i just keep grinding for now....

I'm retiring soon... deadskinmask deadskinmask!

Couldn't come sooner!

Sleep in every day...free money fer life! Working folk on the Blue Cashew who'll pay my way fer life.

Caint complain...that's fer sure, deadskinmask.

Doesn't come easier n that

I'm all in...deadskinmask!

Quote from: JOE on October 18, 2025, 12:58:08 PMI'm retiring soon... deadskinmask deadskinmask!

Couldn't come sooner!

Sleep in every day...free money fer life! Working folk on the Blue Cashew who'll pay my way fer life.

Caint complain...that's fer sure, deadskinmask.

Doesn't come easier n that

I'm all in...deadskinmask!

Sweetie, retire from what? Posting on forums is not a pensionable occupation.

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 18, 2025, 12:23:16 PMwhat do you care? you're leaving anyway....  :crampe:

It might not be for years to come. My wife likes her job.

Quote from: Brent on October 19, 2025, 12:09:33 PMIt might not be for years to come. My wife likes her job.

yeah.... but the motivation might help....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on October 19, 2025, 12:38:11 PMyeah.... but the motivation might help....  :crampe:

I hope so. I want to leave Canada now.