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Title: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 29, 2025, 08:24:33 PM
You guys know me. I hate fucking libtards more than anyone here. With maybe the exception of Lokmar... but if he does win out I am certainly a close second. I fucking LOATHE THE LEFT WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING

I will immediately hate a person I played in the sandbox with as a child upon finding out they are a leftist.

okay, so now I've set the stage for what I am about to say.

Once again I am breaking rank with mainstream conservationism. From the start of this glorious administration I have maintained that there are good people among the ranks of illegal immigrants. People who just want a shot at a decent life and either lacked the funds, knowledge or some combination therein to get here legally. especially when the legal route is riddled with fucking vultures looking to exploit suffering and desperation to their own financial again **spits *** the fucking court system and everyone in it.

that said I AM NOT FUCKING FOR showing up to a job site and picking off illegal aliens as they are working hard to support themselves and their families. UNLESS the person being carted away is a menace to our society in any form.

Murders, thieves, degenerates of all kinds and traffickers of all kinds? Deport em. Hell hang them from trees if so inclined.

But to cart a man or woman, a human being, doing nothing but working hard to live a meager existence  away like an fucking animals is a bridge too fucking far for me, man. I don't give a shit what the penal code says or doesn't say. that human being's labor remains at that job site in the form of a roof, sheetrocked walls, plumbing .. whatever.. and the poor soul worked with the sweat of his hands is treated like a dog while we have disgusting pieces of shit on the left who hate this country remain here in perpetuity simply because where they were born?

ugh--- a true travesty of moral justice!

Nah, kid, you don't have my support on that one as I would happily trade these fucking blue haired degenerate trannies for the decent hardworking illegals any day of any week.

so with all that said I want you to watch this video as Matt Walsh, an outspoken conservative speaker whom I support, attempts to justify want an ICE agent did to a panicking woman.

I am not for this. I did not vote for this, I don't support this and in fact I am disgusted to my core by this.

Please tell me the majority of us are better than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7pFCmVD3g&lc=
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on September 29, 2025, 08:49:57 PM
Brother I am going to have to break ranks with you. If someone is in the country illegally they are breaking the law. Period.

ICE's job is to enforce immigration law. That includes folks on the job. The only thing I would do different is arrest the piece of shit who is hiring them.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on September 29, 2025, 09:19:32 PM
What Canada does for illegal aliens is what the Jim Crow Joe administration did.
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Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on September 29, 2025, 10:28:36 PM
I disagree with Biggz on this too. His heart is in the right place though. I will give him that

Selective enforcement leads to more illegal immigration. As Lok would end a point - FACT!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 01:05:26 AM
I get what y'all are saying

But I just cannot reconcile allowing a piece of shit like ilhan Omar to stay here and getting rid of an immigrant who did break the law on entry. Yes. But has demonstrated ever since they are neither a threat nor burden to our society

I just cannot stomach such a blantant injustice
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 01:21:58 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 01:05:26 AMI get what y'all are saying

But I just cannot reconcile allowing a piece of shit like ilhan Omar to stay here and getting rid of an immigrant who did break the law on entry. Yes. But has demonstrated ever since they are neither a threat nor burden to our society

I just cann
ot stomach such a blantant injustice
Biggz, as a legal immigrant to Canada and now Singapore nothing grinds my gears more than illegal immigration.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 01:27:13 AM
Ilhan Omar is a disgusting animal.

DEPORT THE TWAT!!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Oliver the Second on September 30, 2025, 10:15:23 AM

I gotta agree with Biggie on this one. If I see an ICE raid happening they better be going after criminals and not some guy working at a car wash. There's plenty of vermin out there that need deporting and you're not going to find them selling tacos off a truck somewhere.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 11:18:24 AM
Personally, I voted for Dora the Explorer AND her Abuela to get the fukin boot! Bye, bitches!

By my own personal made up out of thin air estimate, there are 30 MILLION+ illegals in this country. What did I base this number off of? Well, they said it was 12 million before Biden opened the floodgates, I believe that was a lowball number, and lets just say that number doubled at least. I think thats about as good of a guess as any. Probably STILL low!!!

Just about every institution in this country is fucked. Hell, when America was operating what I call "normally" the entire squad would have been ejected from Congress and Omar the brother fucker would have been deported. Let me just add that NOT ONE SINGLE MUSLIM SHOULD HAVE CITIZENSHIP!!! islam is TREASON, FACT! Dont believe me? Well, you havent read a koran, pig shit be upon it!

COULD, we let abuela who's been here for 30 years stay? Sure. And if we had some kind of reasonable enforcement of existing immigration law, I might entertain it. But the shit thats been going on with these assholes??? FUK THAT!!! I've told all of you previously that I have a close personal friend that works for The State of Illinois. Illinois gives a ridiculous amount of money to illegals who own businesses that hire other illegals and pay them under the table so when Illinois pulls up the money truck for the illegal employees, the income they make doesnt count and they get 100% of whatever money Illinois gives these cunts!!! Now if I commit tax fraud, I'm getting the full force of the law BAWLZ DEEP!!!!  It aint just brown people leaching off the system either. Them fukin Polocks have an entire underground railroad so to speak that shuffles them cunts into this country illegally, AND they sign these assholes up for all the bennies too! Who said Polacks are dumb? Its been going on for DECADES!!! Other ethnic groups as well. I WANT THEM ALL DEPORTED! GTFO!!!!

This country is fucked up, illegals DO GET REGISTERED TO VOTE AND they get influence representation in Congress! Illinois had an audit years ago and a small number of illegals we gave licenses to were auto registered to vote. I dont trust its been remedied AND I dont trust that its a "small number".

People keep talking about crops rotting in the fields and hotel rooms not getting cleaned. Fuk your hotels and fuk your farm! My own family is getting cunt punted over soybeans not getting sold to china. Too bad! We should have never gotten hooked on cheap labor and chinese trade ITFP! I KNEW this was going to happen from the time I was in my 20's!!!

Well anyway, there's gonna be a LOT of fucking pain. I expect my family will lose the farm in bankruptcy within 3 years. It sucks, but hey, we're all crack head fucks and its time to go cold turkey. Same for these parasite illegals that have sponged off the system while driving down wages of jobs that AMERICANS WOULD DO!!! In the 90's, my neighbor was a drywaller and made decent money. Well, illegals fucked his job out of existence.

Another thing I want to see on live TV is these cunt Karens and soi cucks demonstrating at ICE facilities simply need ran the fuck over and killed. All this shit is a "I'm mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore!" scenario. We can always devolve into a civil war, and I think we will eventually. I bet a substantial amount of these illegal rats will flee then!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on September 30, 2025, 11:59:40 AM
USA needs a working visa system for lower or unskilled labor avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. They already have non-immigrant visas for White collar or professionals. So why not domestics or burger flippers? And just like free trade visas they are restricted where and for whom they can work so they don't threaten better paying jobs for Americans.

Likewise any person cant just set up a business to become a physician, they need a license which restricts them what services they can offer. So that should apply to low skilled migrant workers too.

Let them stay under the condition they must register for and obtain working visas, can't immigrate, they must pay their taxes & they have to pay international fees to access the medical system.

I don't know why this isn't done. It could actually be a cash cow for the US. Instead of tariffs let foreign workers pay fees and taxes to subsidize Americans & the USA's financial obligations. Its health system too.

The only exception I'd provide for migrants who want to become citizens is they spend at least 10 years in the military to fight America's wars 8n dangerous missions.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on September 30, 2025, 12:03:06 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 30, 2025, 10:15:23 AMI gotta agree with Biggie on this one. If I see an ICE raid happening they better be going after criminals and not some guy working at a car wash. There's plenty of vermin out there that need deporting and you're not going to find them selling tacos off a truck somewhere.
Who says ICE is not prioritiziing criminal illegal aliens.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: formosan on September 30, 2025, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: Herman on September 29, 2025, 09:19:32 PMWhat Canada does for illegal aliens is what the Jim Crow Joe administration did.
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Taiwan has a lot of illegal workers.....so does Japan and South Korea..

I don't know what is done when they are caught besides deportation.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 12:55:23 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 11:18:24 AMPersonally, I voted for Dora the Explorer AND her Abuela to get the fukin boot! Bye, bitches!

By my own personal made up out of thin air estimate, there are 30 MILLION+ illegals in this country. What did I base this number off of? Well, they said it was 12 million before Biden opened the floodgates, I believe that was a lowball number, and lets just say that number doubled at least. I think thats about as good of a guess as any. Probably STILL low!!!

Just about every institution in this country is fucked. Hell, when America was operating what I call "normally" the entire squad would have been ejected from Congress and Omar the brother fucker would have been deported. Let me just add that NOT ONE SINGLE MUSLIM SHOULD HAVE CITIZENSHIP!!! islam is TREASON, FACT! Dont believe me? Well, you havent read a koran, pig shit be upon it!

COULD, we let abuela who's been here for 30 years stay? Sure. And if we had some kind of reasonable enforcement of existing immigration law, I might entertain it. But the shit thats been going on with these assholes??? FUK THAT!!! I've told all of you previously that I have a close personal friend that works for The State of Illinois. Illinois gives a ridiculous amount of money to illegals who own businesses that hire other illegals and pay them under the table so when Illinois pulls up the money truck for the illegal employees, the income they make doesnt count and they get 100% of whatever money Illinois gives these cunts!!! Now if I commit tax fraud, I'm getting the full force of the law BAWLZ DEEP!!!!  It aint just brown people leaching off the system either. Them fukin Polocks have an entire underground railroad so to speak that shuffles them cunts into this country illegally, AND they sign these assholes up for all the bennies too! Who said Polacks are dumb? Its been going on for DECADES!!! Other ethnic groups as well. I WANT THEM ALL DEPORTED! GTFO!!!!

This country is fucked up, illegals DO GET REGISTERED TO VOTE AND they get influence representation in Congress! Illinois had an audit years ago and a small number of illegals we gave licenses to were auto registered to vote. I dont trust its been remedied AND I dont trust that its a "small number".

People keep talking about crops rotting in the fields and hotel rooms not getting cleaned. Fuk your hotels and fuk your farm! My own family is getting cunt punted over soybeans not getting sold to china. Too bad! We should have never gotten hooked on cheap labor and chinese trade ITFP! I KNEW this was going to happen from the time I was in my 20's!!!

Well anyway, there's gonna be a LOT of fucking pain. I expect my family will lose the farm in bankruptcy within 3 years. It sucks, but hey, we're all crack head fucks and its time to go cold turkey. Same for these parasite illegals that have sponged off the system while driving down wages of jobs that AMERICANS WOULD DO!!! In the 90's, my neighbor was a drywaller and made decent money. Well, illegals fucked his job out of existence.

Another thing I want to see on live TV is these cunt Karens and soi cucks demonstrating at ICE facilities simply need ran the fuck over and killed. All this shit is a "I'm mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore!" scenario. We can always devolve into a civil war, and I think we will eventually. I bet a substantial amount of these illegal rats will flee then!

See, Lokmar's response here is exactly why I hate fucking libtards to their core.

how so?

Well if we rewind the clock about 10 years, I'm sure it was no secret to Loks, or any of us for that matter, that there was a high probability those guys standing in front of home depot at 6am every morning weren't exactly U.S citizens or even green card holders. But we all turned a blind eye to it. they worked hard, didn't bother anyone and more often than not the exploit ability of their situation translated to significant savings for anyone looking to avail themselves of their labor.

Not ideal morally speaking and certainly not for the poor soul working for 50% of what his hard labor is worth. But those are the breaks.

Fast forward to a day and age where the scum on the left is seeing a decline in support from some of their most trusted constituents ie the black community and what do they do? Import voters. Period. this was never about giving people a better life, a chance at freedom, a slice of the pie or any of the other virtuous facades they attempt to sell to the American public. Because the truth of the matter is -- democrats never gave the first fuck about these people and still don't. They are simply a means to an end.

and now, in their quest for power and their insatiable greed they have hurt ALL illegals, both good and bad, by making the situation untenable.

I understand the problem and the overall dynamic. All I am asking of my fellow conservatives is please, please do not lose your humanity and your compassion for another human being less fortunate than you as a result of your very valid frustration with the democrat scum.

the woman in the video I showed did not deserved to be thrown about and spoken to like a complete piece of garbage. She's an illegal, yes, but is still a human being and should be treated with dignity and compassion and I'm sorry, I didn't not see that coming out of the ICE agent who man handled her.

There has to be a better way.

Get rid of the leeches and the criminals. But to dehumanize people because they broke a law out of desperation to me is tantamount to throwing the highest penalty at a man who committed petite larceny because his children were starving and he simply had no other means to feed them.

Compassion and reverence my friends. Compassion for your fellow human being and a reverence for God that you have been spared such a calamity in this life is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Brent on September 30, 2025, 01:06:48 PM
Every fucking illegal alien the States and Canada should be deported immediately after paying a heavy fine.

Illegal border crossers and visa overstayers cost Canada and the States a fortune in health care education and policing. Not to mention they increase rents and lower wages.

Getr their asses out and both countries should have a five year moratorium on all immigration.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on September 30, 2025, 01:25:12 PM
I know many don't like my idea but one way to make migrants subsidize the US is make them pay 3x+ as much to access health services & the education system as US citizens. So if they want to send their children to US public schools or use public health services as non immigrant visa holders they have to pay for it as if accessing a private service. However just like free trade visa holders they are not entitled to welfare, unemployment benefits, medical benefits or social security. So these kinds of migrant workers would subsidize the US citizens.

Plus they'd have to pay work visa fees. So that could be be a cash cow for the US & state governments.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on September 30, 2025, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 11:59:40 AMUSA needs a working visa system for lower or unskilled labor avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. They already have non-immigrant visas for White collar or professionals. So why not domestics or burger flippers? And just like free trade visas they are restricted where and for whom they can work so they don't threaten better paying jobs for Americans.

Likewise any person cant just set up a business to become a physician, they need a license which restricts them what services they can offer. So that should apply to low skilled migrant workers too.

Let them stay under the condition they must register for and obtain working visas, can't immigrate, they must pay their taxes & they have to pay international fees to access the medical system.

I don't know why this isn't done. It could actually be a cash cow for the US. Instead of tariffs let foreign workers pay fees and taxes to subsidize Americans & the USA's financial obligations. Its health system too.

The only exception I'd provide for migrants who want to become citizens is they spend at least 10 years in the military to fight America's wars 8n dangerous missions.
Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on September 30, 2025, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 01:25:12 PMI know many don't like my idea but one way to make migrants subsidize the US is make them pay 3x+ as much to access health services & the education system as US citizens. So if they want to send their children to US public schools or use public health services as non immigrant visa holders they have to pay for it as if accessing a private service. However just like free trade visa holders they are not entitled to welfare, unemployment benefits, medical benefits or social security. So these kinds of migrant workers would subsidize the US citizens.

Plus they'd have to pay work visa fees. So that could be be a cash cow for the US & state governments.
Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first?
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 03:07:33 PM
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Hey shit for brainz, here's what Thiel had to say to you:

"Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first? "

and

"Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation. "
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 04:46:43 PM
After reviewing the Matt Walsh video:

Hands off the cops and dont try to back them up. I would expect to get my world rocked as a US Citizen if I put my hands on a cop MULTIPLE TIMES. Is this a bad look? I considered that at first, then I considered her touching the cop. Great photo opportunity tho! Makes me wonder if there was some staging here on the advice of her attorney.

The cunts blocking the truck in the other video? RUN THEM FUCKERS OVER!!!!!

The fat blond blocking a car should have got the cuffs slapped on her! "HE ASSAULTED ME!!" Bitch, he should have dotted you in your fukin eye!

Protesters backing up the cops/troops, etc should have been tear gassed, A LOT.

The asshole niggeR making gun shooting hand signals should have been bean bagged in the face.

Steven Millers a fascist? MORE FASCISM PLEASE! Oh, and so much for lowering the rhetoric!!! I say go full on final solution on libtards!

Assata Shakur should have been drone struck. No way should scum like her be allowed to live on the lamb after killing a cop.

LDS shootings: I am soooo thankful that the shooter was killed by the cops. Please cops, dont EVER take these fuckers alive if at all possible!!!!

Portland peaceful?  :crampe:  :crampe:

Its true, I am kinda heartless in general anymore. At the same time, I'm sick of the bullshit. I dont want a single solitary illegal doing ANY FUCKING JOB! If an American wont do the job, FUK IT! Back when I had a bigger heart, I used to say let illegals do the jobs as long as they get paid the same as an American. NOPE Let us suffer if we're too lazy or the pay isnt enough.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on September 30, 2025, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 03:07:33 PMJ

Hey shit for brainz, here's what Thiel had to say to you:

"Sweetie, remember I expalined to you after we had sex this morning what price do you put on importing MS-13 career criminals and Islamic terrorists that want to kill gay men like you and I.

The only sensible thing to do is try to stop all illegal immigration. Anybody who enters a country must be vetted.

Understand now Angeldrawers or do you want to jump in the sack first? "

and

"Not true Sugarplum. America has the EB 3 visa category.

Canada on the other hand needs to eliminate Temporary Foreign Worker visas. It is being abused by organized crime and destroying the stability of your nation. "

Old Thiel does all the thinking in their fruity relationship.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on September 30, 2025, 08:30:21 PM
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Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 08:52:36 PM
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Shen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 08:52:36 PMShen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!
I know whites and their suicidal ways better than you pasty-skinned fucks know urselves.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 12:55:23 PMSee, Lokmar's response here is exactly why I hate fucking libtards to their core.

how so?

Compassion and reverence my friends. Compassion for your fellow human being and a reverence for God that you have been spared such a calamity in this life is all I'm saying.

You hate liberals so much avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when avatar_Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.



And what that does that mean?

Of course people are tired of the fucking problem the scum on the left has deliberately caused. My fellow republicans are fucking tired and I cant say I blame them. YEARS of total bullshit from the left will do that to a person.

Regrettable yes, but hardly enough to ever get me to look in the libtard direction as a source of truth and/or reason.

I'd put money on the fact that 10 years ago many of these same people weren't emotionally vested in this matter at all. In fact, I KNOW, as I have posted with several of them for around that time

But the scum on the left pushed too fucking hard and now the pendulum is going to swing violently in the other direction

same shit is going to happen to those twisted fucking perverts who think they are women. Only difference is I hope those cockroaches get chased down and attacked on the streets. I do not wish the same for a person who's only crime was trying to make a better life for themselves and by extension, the people around them
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 10:19:29 PM
Quotesame shit is going to happen to those twisted fucking perverts who think they are women. Only difference is I hope those cockroaches get chased down and attacked on the streets. I do not wish the same for a person who's only crime was trying to make a better life for themselves and by extension, the people around them
white Trannies are the most violent and deranged libtard faction. They are also mental cases.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 30, 2025, 10:14:33 PMAnd what that does that mean?

Of course people are tired of the fucking problem the scum on the left has deliberately caused. My fellow republicans are fucking tired and I cant say I blame them. YEARS of total bullshit from the left will do that to a person.

Another idea besides issuing renewable work visas for these migrant workers, would be to tack on an extra 5-10% surcharge on their taxes. And I think a lot of them would pay it, just for the privilege of being able to live and work in the USA. Better than where they came from.

But those extra taxes could help pay for state programs (which the migrants wouldn't be entitled to).

Cash cow. But most in the USA don't see it that way.

Just an idea tho.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:40:11 AM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:26:17 PMAnother idea besides issuing renewable work visas for these migrant workers, would be to tack on an extra 5-10% surcharge on their taxes. And I think a lot of them would pay it, just for the privilege of being able to live and work in the USA. Better than where they came from.

But those extra taxes could help pay for state programs (which the migrants wouldn't be entitled to).

Cash cow. But most in the USA don't see it that way.

Just an idea tho.

STFU, idiot. They're paid under the table 99% of the time so NO TAXES! Thanks for playing, faggit.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:42:47 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 09:11:09 PMI know whites and their suicidal ways better than you pasty-skinned fucks know urselves.

Dont let your yellow ass swell up too much with all that pride, dragonlady!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:46:36 AM
I'll take that as a wo tongyi Loundeye!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:49:19 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:46:36 AMI'll take that as a wo tongyi Loundeye!

I'll let you know what I think of that when I learn your chank language.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:49:19 AMI'll let you know what I think of that when I learn your chank language.  :popcorn:
Sometime I will drink a few mojitos and curse you in Chinese.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:57:36 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 12:55:10 AMSometime I will drink a few mojitos and curse you in Chinese.

Be sure to post a translation too!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 01:03:45 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:57:36 AMBe sure to post a translation too!
I will do that.

See I'm not as evil as you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-8yncLiE4
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on October 01, 2025, 01:11:56 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:40:11 AMSTFU, idiot. They're paid under the table 99% of the time so NO TAXES! Thanks for playing, faggit.

In which case, make the employer pay the extra tax if it failed to report migrant labor. US guv could force the employer who use migrant labor to account for each worker to apply for work visas for them & pay those fees too Lokmar.

Either way the fees would be paid by the worker or the employer so that the government would always get its cut.

Failure on the part of the employer to pay employee taxes is tax evasion.

Instead of wasting all this money on ICE your guv could have been collecting employee taxes all this time & left these migrant workers alone like avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly suggested.

Personally if I were US Prez I would let them stay, legalize them as temporary workers requiring visas and collect billions in fees and taxes from them. If they wanted access to education & the health system then make them pay even more. And only then deport those who failed to comply.

I just thought Trump lost this as an opportunity to collect badly needed revenue for US & state governments.

As you're probably aware, a lot of the poorer red states are hurting due to budget cutbacks. Collecting fees & taxes from migrant workers could have helped them ease the shortfall.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Renegade Quark on October 01, 2025, 01:52:39 AM
We are either a nation of laws or we are not. We either have borders or we don't. It is that simple to me. 

I'm sorry if a worker is taken off the job, but that is a job robbed from an American. If there are no consequences for jumping the line, then that sends a message. Deporting illegals is as much about the messaging as it is about enforcing the law. What message do we want to send? I think we want the message to be: Come here illegally and you will be hunted down and deported. Get in line or get out.

Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 01, 2025, 01:52:39 AMWe are either a nation of laws or we are not. We either have borders or we don't. It is that simple to me. 

I'm sorry if a worker is taken off the job, but that is a job robbed from an American. If there are no consequences for jumping the line, then that sends a message. Deporting illegals is as much about the messaging as it is about enforcing the law. What message do we want to send? I think we want the message to be: Come here illegally and you will be hunted down and deported. Get in line or get out.



 I agree with this. And what Lok said. I also agree with Biggie....but...my tender hearted days are behind me.

 Our good nature has been severely abused

 If someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when avatar_Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.

 No one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on September 30, 2025, 10:19:29 PMwhite Trannies are the most violent and deranged libtard faction. They are also mental cases.

 Ever since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:55:41 AMIf someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.

these are the people I am talking about. I'm not advocating for letting new ones in and I am certainly not for the bums or criminals leeching the system.

But someone who's been working hard and staying out of trouble for 10 years? I'm not for yanking them off a bus or from a job site and I'd happily trade one of them for a loser like admong, murdope or Pig any day of the week
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 01:11:56 AMIn which case, make the employer pay the extra tax if it failed to report migrant labor. US guv could force the employer who use migrant labor to account for each worker to apply for work visas for them & pay those fees too Lokmar.

Either way the fees would be paid by the worker or the employer so that the government would always get its cut.

Failure on the part of the employer to pay employee taxes is tax evasion.

Instead of wasting all this money on ICE your guv could have been collecting employee taxes all this time & left these migrant workers alone like avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly suggested.

Personally if I were US Prez I would let them stay, legalize them as temporary workers requiring visas and collect billions in fees and taxes from them. If they wanted access to education & the health system then make them pay even more. And only then deport those who failed to comply.

I just thought Trump lost this as an opportunity to collect badly needed revenue for US & state governments.

As you're probably aware, a lot of the poorer red states are hurting due to budget cutbacks. Collecting fees & taxes from migrant workers could have helped them ease the shortfall.

Stupid buttfucker, the employers are illegal too many times so THEY dont pay any taxes either. Just STFU, josephine.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:55:41 AMI agree with this. And what Lok said. I also agree with Biggie....but...my tender hearted days are behind me.

 Our good nature has been severely abused

 If someone has been here for decades and trying and has done nothing but work and contribute then im more sympathetic.
I have always been pro immigration. But, it must be legal, sustainable, and beneficial to the host nation. What the Biden administration did was none of the above.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:50:54 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 09:28:40 AMthese are the people I am talking about. I'm not advocating for letting new ones in and I am certainly not for the bums or criminals leeching the system.

But someone who's been working hard and staying out of trouble for 10 years? I'm not for yanking them off a bus or from a job site and I'd happily trade one of them for a loser like admong, murdope or Pig any day of the week

Right. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.
It is starting to come out now truly disturbed too many trans people are.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:48:44 AMI have always been pro immigration. But, it must be legal, sustainable, and beneficial to the host nation. What the Biden administration did was none of the above.

This. The US used to only allow so many immigrants in and then we closed our borders and made them assimilate.

At least thats what grandma told me.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:51:37 AMIt is starting to come out how truly disturbed too many trans people are.

 About time too.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.

What in thee actual fuk?????? :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :crazy:
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:53:33 AMWhat in thee actual fuk?????? :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :crazy:

 I wish i was making that up  :cramp:

 Fucking gross ass idiot troons. 
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:59:17 AMNo one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.
I have Joe on ignore. I can only see his lame repetitive trolling when he is quoted.

What you quoted was a pretty obvious attempt to derail the topic by bringing up your previous relationship. But, you seem sharp, I am sure know that.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:54:07 AMI wish i was making that up  :cramp:

 Fucking gross ass idiot troons. 
I wish you were too.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:56:02 AM
Because when im on my period it totally feels like frozen tomato paste leaking out my asshole  :facepalm:
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:56:02 AMBecause when im on my period it totally feels like frozen tomato paste leaking out my asshole  :facepalm:

Tell em they have to punch each other in the stomach over and over for a more realistic affect!
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:52:38 AMThis. The US used to only allow so many immigrants in and then we closed our borders and made them assimilate.

At least thats what grandma told me.
Canada too. That was the sustainability part. Starting in 2016 the Liberals deliberately ended that.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 09:54:55 AMI have Joe on ignore. I can only see his lame repetitive trolling when he is quoted.

What you quoted was a pretty obvious attempt to derail the topic by bringing up your previous relationship. But, you seem sharp, I am sure know that.

Well the only ones who enjoy my spicey trainwreck love life more than me are people on the internet.

Ive actually calmed down A LOT.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:03:07 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:00:44 AMWell the only ones who enjoy my spicey trainwreck love life more than me are people on the internet.

Ive actually calmed down A LOT.  :dontknow:
Joe loves it for trolling purposes only. But, Dove you need to remember how young Joe is. He is only seventy. He is still in his junior high catty school girl phase.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 09:57:29 AMTell em they have to punch each other in the stomach over and over for a more realistic affect!

Theyd have to get those electric shock period simulators and stick it to their taints.

I know how gender affirming it would be having to dig under their balls but punching eachother there would be more equivalent to female experience.

Or we can just politely introduce bullets into their skulls.

I love being a terf 
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:03:07 AMJoe loves it for trolling purposes only. But, Dove you need to remember how young Joe is. He is only seventy. He is still in his junior high catty school girl phase.

 Bah. Im good lol.

 Ive been properly domesticated.

 It took a man who had absolutely no sex life for more than 20 years but who loves to study lol.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:00:33 AMCanada too. That was the sustainability part. Starting in 2016 the Liberals deliberately ended that.

 We need to go back to this.

 Dude. We used to call Dearborn "Dearbornistan" for shits an giggles. But....now its actually real and they have sharia law over and shit  :facepalm:

 Im not fucking kidding at all or even being dramatic. Theyve literally turned Dearborn into the middle east right smack in Metro D.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:08:38 AMBah. Im good lol.

 Ive been properly domesticated.

 It took a man who had absolutely no sex life for more than 20 years but who loves to study lol.
That is more info Joe will be using to troll with. That old fart's trolling is stuck in 2006.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:10:35 AMWe need to go back to this.

 Dude. We used to call Dearborn "Dearbornistan" for shits an giggles. But....now its actually real and they have sharia law over and shit  :facepalm:

 Im not fucking kidding at all or even being dramatic. Theyve literally turned Dearborn into the middle east right smack in Metro D.
I live about four hours from Dearborn. I have driven through it. I am aware of it's religious composition.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:16:07 AMI live about four hours from Dearborn. I have driven through it. I am aware of it's religious composition.

 I could probably guess where i Canada you are based on that info.

 Im in Oakland county so...im about, an hour or so away from there.

 Its always had a large Muslim population and its slowly become flat our Islamic over the years. Now they are Sharia lawing it over there.

 I dont get it. Why even come here then? I just wanna drive slow through it and throw bacon and beer at everything.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 10:25:29 AMI could probably guess where i Canada you are based on that info.

 Im in Oakland county so...im about, an hour or so away from there.

 Its always had a large Muslim population and its slowly become flat our Islamic over the years. Now they are Sharia lawing it over there.

 I dont get it. Why even come here then? I just wanna drive slow through it and throw bacon and beer at everything.
I think you probably do know where I live based on what I wrote.

And I know where Oakland County is.

I grew up in the Willowdale area of North Toronto. It has a large Muslim population and a large Jewish population. But, there was peace and very little radicalization. I know too many Muslims in Dearborn and Minneapolis have been radicalized.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRight. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.

you see how your opinion is swayed by the deliberate abuse brought on by the scum on the left?

this is what I am talking about

10 years ago you didn't feel this way. None of us did. We all knew it happened and sometimes even benifited from it ourselves

as a homeowner can I truthfully say I've never shown up at the local home depot to grab a guy or two for some sheet-rocking, lawn care or other menial manual task that I did not want to pay a contractor thousands to perform ? No I cannot.

and so, today, I don't get to pontificate or stand up on a high horse and say "get rid of them all" .. am I frustrated because of the abuse? yes. but should the honest hardworking guy whom I didn't have a problem with 10 years ago be dropped off in a land which is now virtually foreign to him with little to no way to sustain himself because democrats are power hungry scum? no.

I can compartmentalize the issue and assign the blame where it belongs and find pathways for good, moral and hardworking people who should not suffer consequence because Biden and Kamala were incompetent pieces of shit
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:14:07 AMyou see how your opinion is swayed by the deliberate abuse brought on by the scum on the left?

this is what I am talking about

10 years ago you didn't feel this way. None of us did. We all knew it happened and sometimes even benifited from it ourselves

as a homeowner can I truthfully say I've never shown up at the local home depot to grab a guy or two for some sheet-rocking, lawn care or other menial manual task that I did not want to pay a contractor thousands to perform ? No I cannot.

and so, today, I don't get to pontificate or stand up on a high horse and say "get rid of them all" .. am I frustrated because of the abuse? yes. but should the honest hardworking guy whom I didn't have a problem with 10 years ago be dropped off in a land which is now virtually foreign to him with little to no way to sustain himself because democrats are power hungry scum? no.

I can compartmentalize the issue and assign the blame where it belongs and find pathways for good, moral and hardworking people who should not suffer consequence because Biden and Kamala were incompetent pieces of shit

 BUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2025, 10:31:06 AMI think you probably do know where I live based on what I wrote.

And I know where Oakland County is.

I grew up in the Willowdale area of North Toronto. It has a large Muslim population and a large Jewish population. But, there was peace and very little radicalization. I know too many Muslims in Dearborn and Minneapolis have been radicalized.

 We always had radical islamists over there....unfortunately that population grew a lot.

 And ha! I was gonna guess Toronto. My oldest daughter and her fiance just took a spontaneous trip there to see Twenty One Pilots lol.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.

The immigration process is just as corrupt as any other involving the courts. Attorneys, red tape, bullshit and a litany of processes that many of these people do not have the aptitude to properly navigate. So they are inclined to stay off the radar and out of sight. Out of sight, out of mind.

Is it right? No. Is it understandable as to why it happens? Yes. Should a person who has been here for 10 years building a life for themselves and perhaps a family through the sweat of their hands suddenly be transported to a far away place because several years ago you had the scum on the left virtually goading them to come here? No.

Their sin is not so great that they should suffer such a severe penalty. Especially when the TRUE criminals in this travesty of justice walk free from consequence. 

Yes they broke the law. I get that. Lots of us break laws either morally or socially. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

But was the law broken so great that we cannot show compassion and handle each situation based on the merits and the unique physiology of the circumstance?

Let's all be honest with ourselves here. If your child had an illness that some illegal grandma had a home remedy for a cure and she was being carted away on a bus before your eyes would you be as eager to to say "the law is the law" or would you be more inclined to lobby on her behalf for some type of provision for her to remain here based on factors which show her favor?

-- I ask all of us to search our hearts for the answer. Really search our hearts and I guarantee if we truly perform this exercise the answer will be a resounding NO. And that's okay, it is as it should be. We are seeking the welfare of someone we love and I already know what my answer is. We're all human and have a vested interest in the welfare of our child and are therefore willing to dispense with "technicalities" based on the greater good

well I'm asking all of us, devoid of such a vested interested, to step out of ourselves for just a moment and base your judgement on compassion -- when compassion is warranted, when the human being on the chopping block has nearly no blemish and nothing but the mercy of God fearing people to dictate their fate. and not simply see the issue though a prism of black and white.

I personally cannot find it within myself to stand behind such a draconian position wherein there is no provision whatsoever for persons in this category. And I am about as right wing as they come ... so if you are not winning my heart and mind in this regard you are certainly not winning the hearts and minds of millions of Americans who lean more centrist in their philosophy
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Brent on October 01, 2025, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?

 I think they should have to properly assimilate. Because they are taking advantage....albiet not criminally.

 That we know of at least.

 Because in making exceptions are we not shitting on everyone who came over here legally, went through the process and invested time and money into gaining proper citizenship?

 See what im saying? I feel like we would owe compensation to people who got no short cuts who invested time, money, effort.
No ecceptions. If somebody enters a country illegally they have to be deported. No leniency just because it took ten years to catch them.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Brent on October 01, 2025, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRight. Right now though? After the abuse of the country? Illegal is illegal.

I hate that but....it is what it is. They really should have made it legal.

Perhaps we can figure out some easier way for these people to gain citizenship.

It really should not be easy to gain citizenship to any foriegn country.

I dont know. My opinions on this one are complicated i guess because i get my feelings involved. If they want to live and work here they need to be citizens. We cant keep being the worlds toilet.
One hundred percent.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:25:19 PM
Here's some US Citizens getting the same treatment!  :crampe:

I approve!!!
https://youtu.be/ERO7mL2dcu0
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 12:25:19 PMHere's some US Citizens getting the same treatment!  :crampe:

I approve!!!
https://youtu.be/ERO7mL2dcu0

I wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: JOE on September 30, 2025, 10:04:34 PMYou hate liberals so much avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly. yet I'm the only one who here agrees with you that a solution should be found to legalize productive and law abiding migrant workers without jeopardizing the livelihoods of American citizens.

Just like when avatar_Dove Dove was having some problems, some of you conz attacked her & were extremely judgmental, eh?

Ironic isn't it? The liberals are often the ones who show some compassion towards others when they are down, but the conservative type folks have none.

Anyways, that's the way it is irl too.
Sugarplum, as I explained to you after we had sex this morning, letting people break the law is not a solution. It is an invitation for more lawlessness.

They must be deported, but if they decide they want to return their applications can expidited.

Understand now pussycat or do you want to jump in the sack first.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?
Honeybunch, you know what will happen. The Democrats will try to impeach the president again rather than work for the interests of the American people. Thankfully the senate will block that abuse of power.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on October 01, 2025, 11:52:15 AMThe immigration process is just as corrupt as any other involving the courts. Attorneys, red tape, bullshit and a litany of processes that many of these people do not have the aptitude to properly navigate. So they are inclined to stay off the radar and out of sight. Out of sight, out of mind.

Is it right? No. Is it understandable as to why it happens? Yes. Should a person who has been here for 10 years building a life for themselves and perhaps a family through the sweat of their hands suddenly be transported to a far away place because several years ago you had the scum on the left virtually goading them to come here? No.

Their sin is not so great that they should suffer such a severe penalty. Especially when the TRUE criminals in this travesty of justice walk free from consequence. 

Yes they broke the law. I get that. Lots of us break laws either morally or socially. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

But was the law broken so great that we cannot show compassion and handle each situation based on the merits and the unique physiology of the circumstance?

Let's all be honest with ourselves here. If your child had an illness that some illegal grandma had a home remedy for a cure and she was being carted away on a bus before your eyes would you be as eager to to say "the law is the law" or would you be more inclined to lobby on her behalf for some type of provision for her to remain here based on factors which show her favor?

-- I ask all of us to search our hearts for the answer. Really search our hearts and I guarantee if we truly perform this exercise the answer will be a resounding NO. And that's okay, it is as it should be. We are seeking the welfare of someone we love and I already know what my answer is. We're all human and have a vested interest in the welfare of our child and are therefore willing to dispense with "technicalities" based on the greater good

well I'm asking all of us, devoid of such a vested interested, to step out of ourselves for just a moment and base your judgement on compassion -- when compassion is warranted, when the human being on the chopping block has nearly no blemish and nothing but the mercy of God fearing people to dictate their fate. and not simply see the issue though a prism of black and white.

I personally cannot find it within myself to stand behind such a draconian position wherein there is no provision whatsoever for persons in this category. And I am about as right wing as they come ... so if you are not winning my heart and mind in this regard you are certainly not winning the hearts and minds of millions of Americans who lean more centrist in their philosophy

I mean. My experience with illegals is they are working hard but they have little respect for us.

There is also a wide range here. Leaving out criminal illegals, we have illegals being labor trafficked. Often times by other illegals.

Plus like you pointed out, those Mexicans in the Home Depot parking lot who will bust ass for dirt cheap, thats an American who could have had business.

When i was S Florida i was cleaning houses and businesses and competing with Mexican women who were doing more for less money. And it wouldnt have been worth it for me to go lower than they were going. And i paid taxes! I was lisenced. They didnt do any of that....they were just working under the table dirt cheap, and sending money back to relatives.

But yeah im softer about ones that have just lived and worked here. The problem is, where we could turn a blind eye before....thats been so abused i just dont see anyway to deport people while letting the behaved ones off the hook.

Is there is any current legislation regarding these ones? I havent been aware of any bills on their behalf. Even with the damn left sky screaming over it, none of them ever actually DO anything.

I would probably vote in favor of giving them a doable pass to citizen ship.....IF they have been building an ethical life in harmony with American values and participating in American life and not using us for our benefits and turning small towns into little Mexican villages.

I feel so irked when i see Mexican small businesses where they fly the Mexican flag and NO US flag. Like the Mexican flag wouldnt bother me if they flew under the US flag.  But theyll fly JUST the Mexican flag. That irks me.

I guess what im saying....they need to WANT to be Americans. Not just Mexicans living in America (or whatever other country they came from).

Whats happening in my state with fucking Dearbornistan is putting a very sour taste in my mouth. We were easy on these arabs and they are fucking shitting all over us over here.

It is supposed to be hard to become a citizen. It always was. The ones who wanted to be here badly enough to go through the process are VERY proud Americans. And they should be! 

I know my family were immigrants and came here from Ireland. My grandma was a little girl when they finally got citizenship. She had duel citizenship many years. But she took so much pride in being an American.

If we dont file taxes, we are getting into trouble legally. No one is gonna be like "well they work and built an honest life, lets give them a break". I think that opens up a whole conversation about how a person should be held accountable for breaking our laws based on how productive their lives are....which many judges will give breaks if a person has a clean record and job and isnt known to be a bane on society.

What would you change about our immigration laws as they are today?
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:28:33 AMBUT is it moral to reside in a country for years and years and take little to no steps to gain citizenship?
It is neither moral nor legal. Illegal immigration carries a cost to society.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:35:49 PMI mean. My experience with illegals is they are working hard but they have little respect for us.

There is also a wide range here. Leaving out criminal illegals, we have illegals being labor trafficked. Often times by other illegals.

Plus like you pointed out, those Mexicans in the Home Depot parking lot who will bust ass for dirt cheap, thats an American who could have had business.

When i was S Florida i was cleaning houses and businesses and competing with Mexican women who were doing more for less money. And it wouldnt have been worth it for me to go lower than they were going. And i paid taxes! I was lisenced. They didnt do any of that....they were just working under the table dirt cheap, and sending money back to relatives.

But yeah im softer about ones that have just lived and worked here. The problem is, where we could turn a blind eye before....thats been so abused i just dont see anyway to deport people while letting the behaved ones off the hook.

Is there is any current legislation regarding these ones? I havent been aware of any bills on their behalf. Even with the damn left sky screaming over it, none of them ever actually DO anything.

I would probably vote in favor of giving them a doable pass to citizen ship.....IF they have been building an ethical life in harmony with American values and participating in American life and not using us for our benefits and turning small towns into little Mexican villages.

I feel so irked when i see Mexican small businesses where fly the Mexican flag and NO US flag. Like the Mexican wouldnt bother me if they flew under the US flag.

I guess what im saying....they need to WANT to be Americans. Not just Mexicans living in America (or whatever other country they came from).

Whats happening in my state with fucking Dearbornistan is putting a very sour taste in my mouth. We were easy on these arabs and they are fucking shitting all over us over here.

It supposed to be hard to become a citizen. It always was. The ones who wanted to be here bad enough to go through the process are VERY proud Americans. And they should be! 

I know my family were immigrants and came here from Ireland. My grandma was a little girl when they finally got citizenship. She had duel citizenship many years. But she took so much pride in being an American.

If we dont file taxes, we are getting into trouble legally. No one is gonna be like "well they work and built an honest life, lets give them a break". I think that opens up a whole conversation about how a person should be held accountable for breaking our laws based on how productive their lives....which many judges will give breaks if a person has a clean record and job and isnt known to be a bane on society.

What would you change about our immigration laws as they are today?
Well said.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Dems will start blocking everything and trying desperately to impeach him.

Thats all democrats care about anymore. They just want to stop republicans from getting anything accomplished.

Is that even a question anymore?
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.
Gay men like Jo Jo and I want to decouple from the trans agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdBy0tC9qM
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:43:08 PM
Women are leaving the Democratic party.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LI64nAxgA4M
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Lokmar on October 01, 2025, 01:46:02 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 01, 2025, 12:27:11 PMI wonder what's gonna happen to yer St Trump if the Republicans lose the 2026 midterm elections...eh Lokmar?

Trump will be impeached daily and he'll even egg them on. Honey Badger President DGAF!
https://youtu.be/uFRrePdRq94
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:47:04 PM
Quote from: Thiel on October 01, 2025, 01:41:48 PMGay men like Jo Jo and I want to decouple from the trans agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdBy0tC9qM

A lot of gay people are done. They have groups. Gays against Groomers. LGB Allience. Get the L Out.

It was gay people who started sounding the alarm on this a long time ago.

The bullying and harrassment of lesbians is ghoulish. They cant even have lesbian dating sites or bars without these troons coming in claiming to be lesbians.  Seriously lesbian dating sites barely even have lesbians anymore. Its just a bunch of busted up dudes in bad make up and moo moos trying to hook up. All the actual lesbians got fed up and bailed lol.

Evidently a troon getting to fuck a lesbian is like the holy grail of "gender euphoria". They call it the "cotton ceiling" and its completely vile.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: DKG on October 01, 2025, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 11:30:34 AMWe always had radical islamists over there....unfortunately that population grew a lot.

 And ha! I was gonna guess Toronto. My oldest daughter and her fiance just took a spontaneous trip there to see Twenty One Pilots lol.
I have heard of them but I have not any songs by them.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: The Donald on October 01, 2025, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:38:58 PMDems will start blocking everything and trying desperately to impeach him.

Thats all democrats care about anymore. They just want to stop republicans from getting anything accomplished.

Is that even a question anymore?
My administration is prepared for the radical left's obstructionism.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on October 01, 2025, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: Lokmar on September 30, 2025, 08:52:36 PMShen is right about white women! Bless her red commie chank operative heart!!!
We have a problem among us Whites. I know that and so do you. But, that gal takes it too far.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on October 01, 2025, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 08:59:17 AMNo one attacked me. I didnt have problems Joe i was just getting a divorce.

 I was solving my problems lol. What "cons" attacked me?

 The only "con" that you could say "attacked" me was Shen calling me a whore. It was her and oh...the leftards over on BF.

 Who cares? Biggie knows im a man eater and he loves me anyway ♡

 Dont be so dramatic lol.
Old Joe should talk. Nobody attacks folks because of their real lives more judgmental Joe. What a boring wanker.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Herman on October 01, 2025, 06:40:07 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.
Here is a post I wish I could unsee.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Shen Li on October 01, 2025, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 09:02:30 AMEver since i saw them on their gross troon boards....all they talk about is beating and murdering and raping innocent women because we dont accept perverted and depraved men as women, and how to simulate periods.

 I shit you not. They were talking about how they shove frozen tomato paste up their asshole so it will melt and come out into a pad and they can feel like its a period.

 I would LOVE the opportunity to excersize my 2A on a few of them.
That settles it for me. White trannies seem like nice normal people.
Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Brent on October 02, 2025, 12:15:48 PM
On Tuesday, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Joseph Edlow announced the results of Operation Twin Shield. The operation — a targeted immigration and citizenship enforcement effort in Minneapolis and St. Paul — found that nearly 50% of cases involved immigration fraud.

Fraud cases included marriage fraud, H-1B visa abuses, forged documents, and "people claiming to work at businesses that can't be found." The operation, which ran September 19-28, included over 1,000 site visits across the metroplex. Edlow said the operation uncovered systemic issues with various immigration programs.

Title: Re: I AM NOT FOR THIS
Post by: Thiel on October 02, 2025, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Dove on October 01, 2025, 01:47:04 PMA lot of gay people are done. They have groups. Gays against Groomers. LGB Allience. Get the L Out.

It was gay people who started sounding the alarm on this a long time ago.

The bullying and harrassment of lesbians is ghoulish. They cant even have lesbian dating sites or bars without these troons coming in claiming to be lesbians.  Seriously lesbian dating sites barely even have lesbians anymore. Its just a bunch of busted up dudes in bad make up and moo moos trying to hook up. All the actual lesbians got fed up and bailed lol.

Evidently a troon getting to fuck a lesbian is like the holy grail of "gender euphoria". They call it the "cotton ceiling" and its completely vile.
Lesbians are uncomfortable with trans "women" and for good reason.