I have been hearing Democrats and their media mouthpieces quote this biased baloney study from the Cato institute.
They essentially started with the results and worked backwards. We are supposed to forget 9/11, the Waukesha Christmass massacres and the 2020/2021 violent George Floyd riots across the nation.
QuoteThe assassination of Charlie Kirk has unleashed a predictable wave of left-wing gaslighting that would make any reasonable person's head spin. Within hours of this horrific crime, the same left-wing voices who spent years justifying and downplaying actual violence from their own side were rushing to condemn political violence and trying to flip the script by claiming that political violence is predominantly a right-wing phenomenon.
To perpetuate this narrative, they've weaponized a deeply flawed study to rewrite history and cast conservatives as the real villains in America's political violence problem. The go-to talking point making rounds among Democrats and their media allies centers on a study from the Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh, which purports to show that right-wing extremists commit the majority of politically motivated killings in America.
The left has parroted this convenient narrative everywhere to deflect attention from the fact that a radicalized leftist just murdered one of conservatism's most prominent young voices in broad daylight.
When I saw a graph from the study showing murders in politically motivated terrorist attacks (excluding 9/11), two things immediately jumped out at me.
The first is the big spike in 1995. While obviously because of the Oklahoma City bombing, the question I had was how Nowrasteh categorized it. As I suspected, he categorized Timothy McVeigh's ideology as "right-wing," but this classification is debatable. McVeigh was an anti-government extremist whose rage stemmed from anger over the 1993 Waco siege and the 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff, not from conservative ideology. McVeigh rejected both political parties, described himself as agnostic, supported abortion rights, and drew inspiration from militia and anarchist movements rather than conservatism.
The second red flag is even more damning. Notice how the data conveniently shows a dip in 2020, the same year America witnessed the most destructive riots in its history. The George Floyd riots not only caused billions in property damage nationwide, but at least nineteen known deaths. Yet somehow, none of these deaths made it into Nowrasteh's tally of political violence. How convenient.
Others have found problems with the study as well.
The Daily Caller's Amber Duke dug into Nowrasteh's methodology and exposed it as sloppy and biased. His list misclassifies several killers as "right-wing," often stretching the label to absurdity. Duke highlighted many of these flaws, but even she missed a few glaring examples. Take the 2022 Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs: Nowrasteh called it "right-wing" despite the shooter, Anderson Lee Aldrich, identifying as "non-binary" and suffering from severe mental illness. He killed five people. Likewise, Peyton Gendron, who murdered ten people in a Buffalo supermarket, was branded "right-wing" even though his manifesto explicitly described himself as an "eco-fascist national socialist." The same goes for Patrick Crusius, the 2019 El Paso Walmart shooter who killed 20 people. Nowrasteh slapped a "right-wing" label on him as well, even though his own writings revealed an eco-fascist worldview nearly identical to Gendron's.
Duke also discovered that Nowrasteh omitted genuine left-wing killers from his list entirely, including the Waukesha Christmas parade attacker who drove his truck through a crowd in 2021, killing six people.
One could easily see that a more thorough examination of the data would turn up more errors and omissions.
The broader pattern here reveals the left's desperate need to control the narrative around political violence. When their side commits horrific acts, they immediately pivot to studies, statistics, and academic papers designed to muddy the waters and shift blame elsewhere. Meanwhile, they conveniently ignore their own side's long history of excusing and encouraging violence.
The truth about political violence in America can't be hidden behind manipulated data and selective methodology. While the CATO study tries to paint conservatives as the primary threat, real Americans remember which side spent the summer of 2020 burning down neighborhoods and which side has been calling for more civility in political discourse. They remember which politicians refused to condemn the rioting and which media outlets described burning buildings as "mostly peaceful protests." Most importantly, they can see through the transparent attempt to use Charlie Kirk's assassination as an opportunity to smear the very movement he died defending.
The left's coordinated response to Kirk's murder reveals their true priorities: not preventing future violence or promoting genuine unity, but in covering up their culpability in political violence.
The left's rush to rewrite political violence after Charlie Kirk's assassination is classic gaslighting. They weaponize flawed studies to paint conservatives as the villains while ignoring their own side's riots and terror.
Alex Nowrasteh is the Joe Scarborough of the CATO Institute. It is incredibly poor research. This atrocious study is so dishonest the institute should retract it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZfzvfXIqU
The bold-faced lie that there is more political violence on the right is as false as Joe Biden saying that white supremacy is the greatest internal threat to America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4R6CkK_XIs
Nobody believes leftist propaganda anymore. People can see with their own two eyes what is really going on.
Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 04, 2025, 06:05:33 PMNobody believes leftist propaganda anymore. People can see with their own two eyes what is really going on.
I thought the CATO institute was libertarian not prog propaganda.
Quote from: Thiel on October 04, 2025, 01:33:02 PMThe bold-faced lie that there is more political violence on the right is as false as Joe Biden saying that white supremacy is the greatest internal threat to America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4R6CkK_XIs
The attempted assassination of Trump is not left wing political violence but nazi low rider violence in prisons is? What in the hell is that bullshit.
Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib blamed "white supremacy" for the Jersey City shootings that killed a detective and three citizens at a Jewish supermarket. The shooters were reportedly part of a black nationalist, anti-police religious sect.
White supremacy is always at fault even when the perps are Black. White supremacists are automatically attributed to conservatives. Conservatives kill people they disagree with politically. That sums up that horseshit study.
Antifa releses death threat video against Andy Ngo after Charlie Kirk's assassination. Not counted as leftist political violence by that fake as fuck study.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KWLyRx3Oguw
Quote from: Shen Li on October 04, 2025, 11:29:49 PMAntifa releses death threat video against Andy Ngo after Charlie Kirk's assassination. Not counted as leftist political violence by that fake as fuck study.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KWLyRx3Oguw
Once again, I'll point out that we need American Civil War 2.0. About 30 million dead U.S. Citizens will be a good start.
Quote from: Lokmar on October 05, 2025, 12:19:39 AMOnce again, I'll point out that we need American Civil War 2.0. About 30 million dead U.S. Citizens will be a good start.
Start with the white population of Portland. Nah, make it the entire West Coast including British Columbia.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 05, 2025, 12:22:04 AMStart with the white population of Portland. Nah, make it the entire West Coast including British Columbia.
If the russians nuke the ENTIRE left coast, we would benefit as a nation!!! Everything north of D.C too on the right coast!!!
Quote from: Lokmar on October 05, 2025, 12:24:45 AMIf the russians nuke the ENTIRE left coast, we would benefit as a nation!!! Everything north of D.C too on the right coast!!!
If the Russians ever did launch a nuclear strike it would be as a last result because the US kept bullying them. That will never happen with Trump in the WH.
Quote from: Shen Li on October 05, 2025, 01:33:35 AMIf the Russians ever did launch a nuclear strike it would be as a last result because the US kept bullying them. That will never happen with Trump in the WH.
IDK and IDGAF! Nuclear war doesnt worry me at all!. FACT!
Quote from: Herman on October 04, 2025, 07:36:08 PMThe attempted assassination of Trump is not left wing political violence but nazi low rider violence in prisons is? What in the hell is that bullshit.
Democratic lawmakers and their supporters do not care that the CATO study is a joke.
In my city after junkie George died, we had a Canadian version of BLM protesting, damaging property and attacking anybody that disagree with them. The RCMP did not call it political viiolence, but the peaceful anti mandate protests against Trudeau were.
My point is that Canada is the same. Progs control the narrative.
What partisan studies will not reveal about leftist political violence.
Quote2020 BLM/Antifa Riot Deaths
Dozens of people were killed due to criminal activities that occurred during left-wing rioting in 2020. Hundreds, possibly thousands, were injured. This is only a partial list.
We will be continuously updating this list. You can help contribute by sending us names. We are only included those killed as a direct result of criminal activity occurring at BLM and/or Antifa "demonstrations." If we used the same journalistic standards employed by CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, and others, there are many more we could add. Such as Jacob Gardner who committed suicide after months of persecution and harassment by BLM. These are listed as "related killings" at the bottom.
Activists are scrubbing this data from Wikipedia right now. Many major media outlets are pretending like it never happened. The New York Times recently characterized all the violence and death as "isolated instances of property damage." MSNBC's Joe Scarborough recently characterized all this violence as vandalism against "taco stands." It is very important that a permanent exhaustive list is created because activists are trying to re-write history.
There were many outright murders and attempted murders. Most were committed using firearms, but at least one murder victim was killed by fire. There are two main categories of these murders. The largest category was people murdered as part of the rioting. There is a smaller category of murders, in which BLM/Antifa rioting was used as a cover to carry out murders against other people within a protest/riot area (Such as Italia Kelley in Davenport, IA). There were also many people killed in self-defense shootings.
Another large number of deaths were caused by rioters engaged in criminal activity. Such as the rioter who blew himself up in Philadelphia trying to open an ATM machine with explosives. USAToday reported in early July that over 100 rioters had been hit by cars while illegally blocking traffic in cities all over America.
Minneapolis, MN: 6 dead ( 1other gunshot victim)
Indianapolis, IN: 3 dead
Seattle, WA: 3 dead (5 other gunshot victims, 1 other seriously injured)
Cicero, IL: 2 dead
St. Louis, MO: 2 dead (1 other gunshot victim)
Davenport, IA: 2 dead (3 other gunshot victims)
Louisville, KY: 2 dead (9 other gunshot victims)
Chicago, IL: 2 dead (1 other gunshot victim, 1 other seriously injured)
Kenosha, WI: 2 dead (1 other gunshot victim, 1 other seriously injured)
Philadelphia, PA: 2 dead
Kansas City, MO: 1 dead
Omaha, NE: 1 dead
Portland, OR: 1 dead (1 stabbing victim, 9 other serious injuries)
Atlanta, GA: 1 dead (2 other gunshot victims, 2 other victims of a mob attack)
Detroit, MI: 1 dead
Bakersfield, CA: 1 dead
Bay Area, CA: 2 dead (3 other gunshot victims)
Las Vegas, NV: 1 dead
Austin, TX: 1 dead
Denver, CO: 1 dead
Yorba Linda, CA: (1 attempted murder, 1 other serious injury)
Aurora, CO: (2 gunshot victims)
Alamosa, CO: (1 gunshot victim)
Madison, WI: (1 seriously injured by mob beating)
Provo, UT: (1 attempted murder)
Portsmouth, VA: (1 person permanently debilitated)
Tulsa, OK: (1 person permanently debilitated)
Mooresville, IN: (1 person seriously injured by car)
Total: 37 dead, 29 other gunshot victims, 19 other major injuries, 2 other attempted murders
Related Killings: 8, Related Beatings: 1
https://national-conservative.com/extremist-files/2020-blm-antifa-deaths/
Five homicides and a self-defense shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota
On May 28th, 2020, BLM and other far-left groups engaged in mass arson and violence in Minneapolis, MN. Among the destroyed buildings were occupied second-floor apartments, a brand new public housing complex, and a Native American Youth Center.
Two murders occurred during the rioting in Minneapolis. Neither was widely reported in the media. A female victim was found dead in the riot zone. Her body was in the backseat of a car that had been abandoned in the middle of the road. Police said the woman had visible trauma and they were opening a homicide investigation. This victim does not appear to have even been ever been identified by the media. There is a surveillance video of a female in visible distress that rang someone's doorbell nearby, but it was never confirmed if it was the same woman. During the rioting, a report came across the Minneapolis police scanner about a "screaming woman" who was being forced into a car. A Minneapolis Star Tribune reporter even tweeted about this. There were allegations on Twitter of a second possible abduction of a female victim at another nearby location. However, the Minneapolis Star Tribune never followed up on any of this.
Oscar Lee Stewart Jr., the owner of Max Pawn was killed when his store was set on fire. Montez Terriel Lee, a black male, was charged with burning down the pawnshop. Prosecutors say he is on video pouring an accelerant all over the shop. Millions of dollars, some from major Hollywood celebrities, poured in to provide lawyers for Lee and dozens of others arrested. It remains to be seen if he is ever prosecuted for murder.
Calvin Horton Jr. was killed in a self-defense shooting. He was involved in the looting of Cadillac Pawn & Jewelry.
Following the mass rioting, BLM erected barricades around "George Floyd Square" and declared it a 24 hour a day, seven-day per week BLM "autonomous" protest zone. Armed BLM and Antifa patrolled the zone day and night, violently preventing police, and sometimes media, from entering. On June 19, 2020, Dameon Chambers was fatally shot during a Black Lives Matter "Juneteenth" demonstration inside the square. On July 5, 2020, Leneesha Columbus and her six month unborn child were fatally shot and killed in the square. BLM protest leader Alfonso Williams was also shot when he tried to provide aid to Leneesha Columbus.
Quote from: Brent on October 05, 2025, 12:20:41 PMIn my city after junkie George died, we had a Canadian version of BLM protesting, damaging property and attacking anybody that disagree with them. The RCMP did not call it political viiolence, but the peaceful anti mandate protests against Trudeau were.
My point is that Canada is the same. Progs control the narrative.
They were setting cars on fire and smashing business windows in Toronto and Montreal too. It was a peaceful protest though. They were not acts of political violence.
We are in a state of war against the Left. It's a new cold war with Leftists murdering while the Right takes the high road.
They say that the first casualty of war is the truth. I know that I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see. The propaganda is ubiquitous.
Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 06, 2025, 12:42:13 AMThey say that the first casualty of war is the truth. I know that I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see. The propaganda is ubiquitous.
Precisely
More politically motivated incidents of violence that the CATO study omitted.
Homicide in Atlanta, Georgia
All of the crimes below took place near the same intersection where BLM also burned down a Wendy's.
In early July, a group of armed BLM activists blocked traffic in Atlanta. When some cars did not stop, multiple perpetrators opened fire on passing traffic. Eight-year-old Secoriea Turner was slaughtered. Atlanta police say as many as four different young black males opened fire. One person has been arrested, but the gunman who killed Turner remains at large. The investigation has been hampered because witnesses are refusing to cooperate.
On June 19th, armed BLM activists were shooting off guns wildly and an Asian female victim was hit in the leg by a stray bullet. The very next day, on June 20th, the same armed BLM activists were back out demonstrating in the same area. This time an unidentified male victim was shot in the leg.
Also on June 19th, a white couple was surrounded in their car by black BLM activists. Their windows were smashed, and they were hit with rocks and fists. The attackers told them "white people were not allowed to drive on that road."
Two homicides Cicero, Illinois
After days of rioting, Chicago police make a large effort to reclaim downtown Chicago on June 1st. What happened was a mass of so-called "activists" moved from downtown to Cicero. A mostly Black crowd appeared in a primarily Latino area of Cicero, looted small businesses, threw bottles at predominantly Latino motorists, and murdered two Latino men. The attack was a massive blow to race relations in the Chicago area, as the violence was widely viewed as racially motivated by the Latino community.
Victor Cazares Jr, 27, and Jose Angel Gutierrez, 28, were both murdered. Cazares was working inside a shop that was looted. Gutierrez was walking down the street when he was murdered. Zion Haygood, a black male, was charged with first-degree
Two homicides and a self-defense killing in Indianapolis, Indiana
On July 5th, Jessica Doty Whitaker, a young white mother, was murdered after walking past a group of Black Lives Matter supporters. The group ordered Whitaker and her friends to proclaim "Black Lives Matter." Instead, someone in her group said "All Lives Matter." The BLM supporters pulled out guns and threatened them. Whitaker's fiance, Jose Ramirez, withdrew a concealed handgun and the perps appeared to back off.
However, at least one person stalked Whitaker and Ramirez as they continued walking down the road. He stood on a bridge and shot Whitaker in the head as the couple was walking past below him. As far as we know, the killer is still at large. Local media ceased reporting on the investigation after July.
Indianapolis also saw three days of violent rioting by BLM protesters in late May. Two people were killed.
Also on July 4th, a BLM rioter was hit and drug fifty feet by a car while illegally blocking the street. Other people suffered lesser injuries.
Christopher Beaty, a 38-year-old former Indianapolis football player, was shot multiple times and killed. It is believed that Beaty was trying to prevent BLM rioters from looting stores.
Also during the BLM riot in Indianapolis, police say Dorian Murrell, an 18-year-old black male, was part of a group that mugged a female victim in a parking garage. Police say his accomplices were brothers Anderson and Alijah Jones. Hours after the mugging, a white male pedestrian was attacked from behind by a group of black males. The victim, Tyler Newby, had a concealed carry permit. Believing he was about to be murdered, he rolled over and fire one shot. Murrell was standing over top of the victim and was killed.
Anderson Jones, an alleged accomplice of Dorian Murrell, has been charged with killing Christopher Beaty. The murder of Beaty occurred shortly after Dorian Murrel, Anderson Jones, and Alijah Jones allegedly mugged a woman and a few hours before the unprovoked mob attack on Tyler Newby.
Homicide, self-defense killing, three other shooting victims in Davenport, Iowa
Italia Marie Kelly, age 22, was shot and killed as she was leaving a BLM rally that turned into a riot. Parker Marlin Belz, a 21-year-old white male, has been arrested and charged with murder. Belz and Kelly had been friends but were involved in a feud over social media. Belz apparently thought that he could use the mayhem of the BLM rioting to get away with murder.
Marquis M. Tousant, 23, of Rock Island, Illinois, was killed in self-defense after he opened fire on three Davenport, IA police officers.
Two unnamed Davenport Iowa police officers suffered minor gunshot wounds. One officer was hit in the leg and another officer was hit, but his holster stopped the bullet.
An unnamed victim was shot and wounded in front of a jewelry store while BLM "protesters" looted the business. Seven people have been arrested in connection with these crimes.
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