He seems to be a bit on edge lately. First calling a reporter "Piggy", and now this?
I know he didn't mean it literally but still, even for him it's a bit much to suggest that certain members of Congress should be executed by hanging. And there are some extremists who tend to follow his instruction, and many of them own weapons.
Donald Trump called for the arrest and hanging of several Democratic members of Congress — all veterans — after they called for military personnel to refuse unlawful orders.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-execution-of-democratic-members-of-congress-in-shocking-barrage-of-posts/ar-AA1QPey5
Of course he's on edge.
He had to buy the rope (sign the bill) that may well be used to hang him.
That kinda thing can put anyone out of sorts.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 22, 2025, 11:31:58 AMOf course he's on edge.
He had to buy the rope (sign the bill) that may well be used to hang him.
That kinda thing can put anyone out of sorts.
It's going to be interesting when they reveal the contents of those emails.
Sounds like a potential game changer.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 11:12:02 AMHe seems to be a bit on edge lately. First calling a reporter "Piggy", and now this?
I know he didn't mean it literally but still, even for him it's a bit much to suggest that certain members of Congress should be executed by hanging. And there are some extremists who tend to follow his instruction, and many of them own weapons.
Donald Trump called for the arrest and hanging of several Democratic members of Congress — all veterans — after they called for military personnel to refuse unlawful orders.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-execution-of-democratic-members-of-congress-in-shocking-barrage-of-posts/ar-AA1QPey5
Trump being Trump. He is a breath of fresh air. I wish we could trade conflict of interest Carney for him.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 11:40:36 AMIt's going to be interesting when they reveal the contents of those emails.
IF they do. Of course not doing it will come with a whole different set of problems but if they calculate it'll be less damaging to keep playing hide-the-files that's what they'll gamble on.
Personally I'll believe it when I see it.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 11:40:36 AMSounds like a potential game changer.
Lots of things do, until they're not.
Never underestimate the willingness of USA citizens to be distracted and/or propagandized and/or gaslighted.
Our capacity for unopposed fuckery is seemingly bottomless.
I think there is a big difference between announcing what the punishment is for treason and actually calling for the deaths of congress people
what those congress members did was indeed treason. Telling or even implying that the US military should disobey lawful orders issued by the commander n chief falls well within the guardrails of aiding and abedding an enemy.
Notice how A.I has been carefully prompted by the puppet masters to answer a direct an unambiguous question.
I asked AI the following
is telling the military to disobey lawful orders treason
And AI's response? A very carefully worded response designed to mislead much less capable minds than my own.
It responded with
No, telling military members to disobey
unlawful orders is not treason; it is a reflection of the military's legal obligation to obey the Constitution over illegal commands. However, disobeying lawful orders is insubordination, which is a crime. Treason is specifically defined by the Constitution as levying war against the U.S. or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.
Disobeying unlawful orders
Service members are required to obey lawful orders but must disobey unlawful ones that violate the U.S. Constitution, international law, or the Geneva Conventions.
Telling service members they can refuse illegal orders is considered upholding the oath they took to the Constitution, not encouraging insurrection.
In recent events, this distinction has been a point of political contention, with one side stating it is a constitutional right and the other labeling it "seditious behavior" or "punishable by death".
Disobeying lawful orders
Willful disobedience of a superior officer's lawful order is called insubordination, a crime in the military.
Disobeying a lawful order can lead to consequences like demotion or jail time.
Treason
Treason has a very specific legal definition: levying war against the United States or giving "aid and comfort" to its enemies.
Encouraging military members to disobey illegal orders does not meet this definition.
Notice how AI responded asymmetrically to my question? My question was direct and unambiguous yet AI took it upon itself to answer my question with a No along the context that disobeying an "unlawful" order was not treason. I never asked about an unlawful order - I asked about a lawful order
and that right there tells you all you need to know about how this narrative is being falsified to illicit a specific reaction
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 22, 2025, 12:22:33 PMis telling the military to disobey lawful orders treason
And AI's response? A very carefully worded response designed to mislead much less capable minds than my own.
It responded with
No, telling military members to disobey
unlawful orders is not treason
I plugged your question into Copilot (Microsoft's version of AI) and it didn't attempt to twist things around and answer an unasked question.
Direct Answer: No, telling the military to disobey lawful orders is not legally considered treason under U.S. law. It could, however, be treated as sedition or incitement depending on the circumstances, but treason has a very narrow constitutional definition.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 12:32:10 PMI plugged your question into Copilot (Microsoft's version of AI) and it didn't attempt to twist things around and answer an unasked question.
Direct Answer: No, telling the military to disobey lawful orders is not legally considered treason under U.S. law. It could, however, be treated as sedition or incitement depending on the circumstances, but treason has a very narrow constitutional definition.
That's only because proper context is not in the question I believe
If the disobeying of a lawful order results in the direct aid and/or comfort to an enemy then it is indeed treason
Now we all know what those Congress members were referring and we also know they were being intentionally vague because they are total cowards
But the timing and spirit of their words clearly demonstrates they want the military to second guess obeying orders which are in anyway connected to the deportation of criminals. Many of whom have been declared enemies of the state
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 22, 2025, 12:40:47 PMThat's only because proper context is not in the question I believe
I copied your question into Copilot without making any changes. There was more to the answer that CoPilot provided I just copied the first paragraph.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 12:43:15 PMI copied your question into Copilot without making any changes. There was more to the answer that CoPilot provided I just copied the first paragraph.
yeah. It's difficult to provide all of the context for this matter into a search field
Anyway maybe we're getting a bit off topic with the whole treason definition thing.
It seems Trump isn't quite himself and if that's the case, what's driving it.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 12:50:38 PMAnyway maybe we're getting a bit off topic with the whole treason definition thing.
It seems Trump isn't quite himself and if that's the case, what's driving it.
He's definitely been a bit off kilt lately.
Now, I am not saying he's not in the epstien files in some damning way and if he is then he needs to go down like the rest of them.
But what I will say is that with a media so incredibly biased and a population so overwhelmingly stupid I'd be worried too if I were him that they'd find a way to make up some freakish connection between me and this monster. and thus far, they've proven they are willing, shameless and stupid enough to do just that.
I would like Democrats to answer the following simple questions
1. what are the illegal orders they are referring to
2. what prompted the creation of this video?
3. what was the pressing need, now, to inform the military of something that they are fully informed of upon taking their oath?
Now, I'm making the statement that sitting members of congress making a video like this at a time like this is dripping with intent to sow discord among less informed and more impressionable members of the military.
prove me wrong.
Quote from: wizer on November 22, 2025, 11:12:02 AMHe seems to be a bit on edge lately. First calling a reporter "Piggy", and now this?
I know he didn't mean it literally but still, even for him it's a bit much to suggest that certain members of Congress should be executed by hanging. And there are some extremists who tend to follow his instruction, and many of them own weapons.
Donald Trump called for the arrest and hanging of several Democratic members of Congress — all veterans — after they called for military personnel to refuse unlawful orders.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-execution-of-democratic-members-of-congress-in-shocking-barrage-of-posts/ar-AA1QPey5
I agree. We should put judges and politicians on trial for treason and execute them.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 22, 2025, 11:31:58 AMOf course he's on edge.
He had to buy the rope (sign the bill) that may well be used to hang him.
That kinda thing can put anyone out of sorts.
LOL! If there was any Epstein dirt on him, they would have used that shit years ago.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 22, 2025, 06:46:57 PMLOL! If there was any Epstein dirt on him, they would have used that shit years ago.
No, actually they wouldn't.
Because then the can of worms would have been open and a lot of democrats are in there, too. I expect the only reason they're willing to expose it all now is that the people involved have mostly retired already.
Some snippets are being made public (provided by congress, I believe) and frankly they aren't looking too good for Trump in light of his public denials, characterizations, and how he's given Maxwell a pass.
Not gloating or celebrating... just stating facts.
So the democRAts and the media are taking something Trump said out of context again.
Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 22, 2025, 07:22:39 PMNo, actually they wouldn't.
Because then the can of worms would have been open and a lot of democrats are in there, too. I expect the only reason they're willing to expose it all now is that the people involved have mostly retired already.
Some snippets are being made public (provided by congress, I believe) and frankly they aren't looking too good for Trump in light of his public denials, characterizations, and how he's given Maxwell a pass.
Not gloating or celebrating... just stating facts.
People have already reviewed the shit and nobody can keep a secret on Trump. In fact, they have a long history of making shit up that isnt true.
Nothing to see on Trump here.
Just by viewing the responses given to LIBERAL media outlets you can totally see what the democrat scum intent was in this context. And yes, it was seditious. They wanted to undermine lawful orders which are being given at a time when there is much contention.
Do they seriously believe that anyone with an IQ of 90 or above actually sees the need to issue a video like this now in such a gratuitous manner? As if Google, Copilot and about a dozen other forms of AI aren't available to put to ease any questions a service member may have?
Would they ever be convicted? no. but that's only because the bar is so high and our legal system is constructed in such a way that moral guilty and even actual guilt does not always result in a guilty verdict
see O.J Simpson for details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L78meuEZss8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipjvKaYPRLY
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 23, 2025, 11:35:33 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipjvKaYPRLY
I bet George Washington would have most democRATs executed.
Quote from: Lokmar on November 24, 2025, 01:37:31 AMI bet George Washington would have most democRATs executed.
(https://i.imgur.com/qGR8EgD.jpeg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS91yVemr-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7n554w23GY
How is the average line soldier supposed to know if an order is legal or not? Are they going to put the battle on hold while he looks it up on Google?
Quote from: Oliver the Second on December 09, 2025, 02:11:06 PMHow is the average line soldier supposed to know if an order is legal or not? Are they going to put the battle on hold while he looks it up on Google?
one of the commentators brought to light an excellent point in that regard
she said that for decades the school system has been under mostly democrat control and the result? A generation of kids of military age which have no idea how the government works. this fact is at the core of what the democrats hope to rely upon as they plant the seeds of doubt in this highly impressionable minds.
the seditious six video was strategic on many deep levels and only a person of below average intelligence will remain skeptical of that distinct possibility.