Title: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:38:43 AM
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:38:43 AM
He is Mohammed Emwazi, a Kuwaiti-born British man in his mid-20s from west London, who was previously known to British security services.
British police declined to comment, citing ongoing investigations.
Emwazi first appeared in a video last August, when he apparently killed the US journalist James Foley.
He was later thought to have been pictured in the videos of the beheadings of US journalist Steven Sotloff, British aid worker David Haines, British taxi driver Alan Henning, and American aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig, also known as Peter.
'The Beatles'
In each of the videos, the militant appeared dressed in a black robe with a black balaclava covering all but his eyes and top of his nose.
Speaking with a British accent, he taunted Western powers before holding his knife to the hostages' necks, appearing to start cutting before the film stopped. The victims' decapitated bodies were then shown.
Earlier this month, the militant featured in a video in which the Japanese journalist Kenji Goto appeared to be beheaded. Hostages released by IS said he was one of three British jihadists guarding Westerners abducted by the group in Syria. They were known collectively as "the Beatles".
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Mohammed Emwazi timeline:
1988: Born in Kuwait, moves to UK in 1994
2009: Completes computing degree at University of Westminster
Aug 2009: Travels to Tanzania with two friends for safari but refused entry at Dar-es-Salaam. Put on flight to Amsterdam. After questioning there, returns to Dover
Sept 2009: Travels to Kuwait to stay with father's family
July 2010: Returns to UK for short stay but told he cannot return to Kuwait as visa denied
2012: Passes Selta English language teaching course
2013: Changes name by deed poll. Tries to travel to Kuwait but is stopped. Disappears. Parents report him missing. Police tell family four months later he has entered Syria.
In a news conference, Asim Qureshi, the research director of the London-based human rights group Cage, which had been in contact with Emwazi over a number of years, detailed the difficulties Emwazi had had with security services in the UK and overseas.
Mr Qureshi said Emwazi, who is understood to be about 27, had been "extremely kind, gentle and soft-spoken, the most humble young person I knew".
He said he could "not be 100% certain" Jihadi John was Emwazi although there were "striking similarities".
Emwazi's difficulties began when he travelled to Tanzania in May 2009 following his graduation in computer programming at the University of Westminster, Mr Qureshi added.
He and two friends had planned to go on a safari but once they landed in Dar es Salaam they were detained by police and held overnight.
Emwazi then ended up flying to Amsterdam, in the Netherlands, where he claimed to be met by British intelligence agents from MI5 who accused him of trying to travel to Somalia, where the jihadist group al-Shabab operates. He denied the accusation and said the agents had tried to recruit him before allowing him to return to the UK.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:41:57 AM
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:41:57 AM
We don't know exactly when the British or the American security services worked out that the masked man in the killing videos was Londoner Mohammed Emwazi - and nobody in official security circles is going to comment on how they got to that conclusion.
But we do know that he was, to use the jargon, a "person of interest" to MI5 going back to at least 2010 because he features in semi-secret court cases relating to extremism overseas and back in the UK.
Emwazi has been previously described as a member of a network involving at least 13 men from London - and at least two of them were subjected to house arrest control orders or T-Pims. One absconded. Another was killed in a drone strike. The chances of Emwazi ever returning to the UK are vanishingly small.
Emwazi later moved to Kuwait, where he got a job at a computer company. But on a visit to London in 2010, he was detained by British counter-terrorism officials and prevented from flying back to Kuwait, his friends said.
"I had a job waiting for me and marriage to get started," Emwazi wrote in a June 2010 email to Cage.
"[But now] I feel like a prisoner, only not in a cage, in London," he added, "a person imprisoned and controlled by security service men, stopping me from living my new life in my birthplace and country, Kuwait."
Mr Qureshi said Emwazi had made persistent efforts to try to change his situation: "We had two-and-a-half years of communications talking about what he could do to alleviate his problems."
He said he did not know what had happened to Emwazi, adding: "When we treat people as outsiders they will inevitably feel like outsiders - our entire security strategy has only increased alienation. A narrative of injustice has taken root."
Emwazi was believed to have travelled to Syria around 2013 and later joined IS, which has declared the creation of a "caliphate" in the large swathes of Syria and neighbouring Iraq it controls.
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister David Cameron would not confirm or deny the latest reports, adding that the police and security services were working hard to find those responsible for the murder of the British hostages.
The University of Westminster confirmed Emwazi had left six years ago, adding: "If these allegations are true, we are shocked and sickened."
The BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan in Washington says the FBI went on record last September to confirm it knew who Jihadi John was. However, US officials said this month they would not name him as they believed this would be the best strategy for finding him and bringing him to justice.
The London-based International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation said it believed the identification to be accurate. It said that the naming of Emwazi showed that "whatever efforts are made, the ability to mask one's identity is limited or in fact impossible".
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:47:34 AM
Post by: Gary Oak on February 26, 2015, 11:47:34 AM
August 2014: Video in which US journalist James Foley is apparently beheaded
2 September 2014: Video in which US journalist Steve Sotloff is apparently beheaded
13 September 2014: Video in which British aid worker David Haines is apparently beheaded
October 2014: Video in which British aid worker Alan Henning is apparently beheaded
November 2014: Video in which Jihadi John is shown killing a Syrian soldier in a mass beheading, which also shows body of US aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig, also known as Peter Kassig
20 January 2015: Video in which Jihadi John is seen standing alongside two Japanese hostages and demanding a ransom in exchange for their release
31 January 2015: Video released appearing to show Jihadi John beheading Japanese hostage Kenji Goto
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 12:08:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 12:08:51 PM
Poor little Mohammed Emwazi, a rich, educated Islamofascist living in the West and hates it. ac_rollseyes ac_rollseyes Nothing new here folks.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 12:43:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 12:43:31 PM
The message from him is "you too can be a world player, bring war and bloodshed in return for worldly recognition, and end to the 'humiliation' and rewards in heaven following 'martyrdom'.Quote
This "denotes the supreme importance to humans of being noticed, mattering, and deserving honour and esteem", Prof Kruglanski writes.
In recent months, the base instincts of young men and women are also forming part of the IS appeal.
Sex is selling their agenda. Young fighters are promised a bride, sex slaves or captured women, while their groupies are lured to Syria by internet images of handsome armed men and the promise of an Islamic life in the arms of a hero.
IS has seen recruitment leap from 10,000 to more than 40,000, with 12,000 foreign fighters of whom at least 3,000 hail from Europe.
Emwazi is a magnet for IS recruits.
His appeal will only end, says Prof Kruglanski, with "ignominy, an unglamorous death in the desert with no one to care".http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/behind-the-twisted-appeal-of-jihadi-john/ar-BBhZNcd?ocid=mailsignoutmd
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 26, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 26, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Some girls in the West find this puny, cowardly little shit appealing??Quote from: "Shen Li"The message from him is "you too can be a world player, bring war and bloodshed in return for worldly recognition, and end to the 'humiliation' and rewards in heaven following 'martyrdom'.Quote
This "denotes the supreme importance to humans of being noticed, mattering, and deserving honour and esteem", Prof Kruglanski writes.
In recent months, the base instincts of young men and women are also forming part of the IS appeal.
Sex is selling their agenda. Young fighters are promised a bride, sex slaves or captured women, while their groupies are lured to Syria by internet images of handsome armed men and the promise of an Islamic life in the arms of a hero.
IS has seen recruitment leap from 10,000 to more than 40,000, with 12,000 foreign fighters of whom at least 3,000 hail from Europe.
Emwazi is a magnet for IS recruits.
His appeal will only end, says Prof Kruglanski, with "ignominy, an unglamorous death in the desert with no one to care".http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/behind-the-twisted-appeal-of-jihadi-john/ar-BBhZNcd?ocid=mailsignoutmd
They admire how he fights for the rights of disadvantaged Muslims worldwide.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 04:47:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 04:47:54 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Some girls in the West find this puny, cowardly little shit appealing??Quote from: "Shen Li"The message from him is "you too can be a world player, bring war and bloodshed in return for worldly recognition, and end to the 'humiliation' and rewards in heaven following 'martyrdom'.Quote
This "denotes the supreme importance to humans of being noticed, mattering, and deserving honour and esteem", Prof Kruglanski writes.
In recent months, the base instincts of young men and women are also forming part of the IS appeal.
Sex is selling their agenda. Young fighters are promised a bride, sex slaves or captured women, while their groupies are lured to Syria by internet images of handsome armed men and the promise of an Islamic life in the arms of a hero.
IS has seen recruitment leap from 10,000 to more than 40,000, with 12,000 foreign fighters of whom at least 3,000 hail from Europe.
Emwazi is a magnet for IS recruits.
His appeal will only end, says Prof Kruglanski, with "ignominy, an unglamorous death in the desert with no one to care".http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/behind-the-twisted-appeal-of-jihadi-john/ar-BBhZNcd?ocid=mailsignoutmd
They admire how he fights for the rights of disadvantaged Muslims worldwide.
You care and Swedes pay right. ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
If I was police I would be looking at his friend, and his other cult members.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
I saw he was identified this morning, and his friend saying what a caring person he was.Quote from: "Blue"If I was police I would be looking at his friend, and his other cult members.
I think that is what the authorities in the United Kingdom are doing Blue.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:16:12 PM
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:16:12 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:31:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:31:03 PM
I'm not sure, they are pretty sad when it comes to action anymore like here.Quote from: "Blue"
I would assume British authorities are questioning everyone he had contact with.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:34:09 PM
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:34:09 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:38:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:38:22 PM
They shy away from offending a mosque, and Muslims a lot there.Quote from: "Blue"
That may be true, but their security comes first I would assume.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Post by: Frost on February 26, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
They have let rapes skyrocket by Muslims, abductions also.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
Not from what I have read, they might on some stuff, but not all.Quote from: "Blue"
They have let rapes skyrocket by Muslims, abductions also.
That could very well be true Blue..
But, I know security issues are frequently handled not out in the open.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
I am becoming political.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 12:37:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 12:37:29 AM
Not from what I have read, they might on some stuff, but not all.Quote from: "Blue"
They have let rapes skyrocket by Muslims, abductions also.
I was reading that M15 had tried to recruit him to work as a mole. Sometimes it works out and in his case it bombed.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
He looks better in his Islamofascist bridal gown.
as a kid
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 27, 2015, 07:55:43 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on February 27, 2015, 07:55:43 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 08:21:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2015, 08:21:40 PM
Here is the first picture released of him.Quote from: "Shen Li"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%22%3Ehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He looks better in his Islamofascist bridal gown.
as a kid(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014174c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014172c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He was a cute boy.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Gary Oak on February 28, 2015, 12:28:28 AM
Post by: Gary Oak on February 28, 2015, 12:28:28 AM
Here is the first picture released of him.Quote from: "Shen Li"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%22%3Ehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He looks better in his Islamofascist bridal gown.
as a kid(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014174c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014172c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Typical Muslim slime follower of an illiterate pedophile.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 28, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Here is the first picture released of him.Quote from: "Shen Li"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%22%3Ehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3SFS5W0AASlaG.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He looks better in his Islamofascist bridal gown.
as a kid(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014174c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-emwiz_3214174c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc%20...%2014172c.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03214/DO-NOT-REUSE-Emwiz_3214172c.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Typical Muslim slime follower of an illiterate pedophile.
I don't feel he is typical at all Gary Oak.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Rambo Wong on March 02, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
Post by: Rambo Wong on March 02, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
Jihadi John wouldn't have commited these crimes if he hadn't experienced racism against Asian men in England.Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Yes, it's a natural jump from being on the receiving end of a slur to head chopping. ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
Fixed it fer ya. No need for prolific thank you'sJihadi John wouldn't have commited these crimes if he hadn'tQuote from: "Rambo Wong"practicedracism in England.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Jihadi John wouldn't have commited these crimes if he hadn'tQuote from: "Rambo Wong"practicedracism in England.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 06:25:26 PM
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 06:25:26 PM
We are at war with the perversion called islamWe aren't at war with Islam but are at war with those who have perverted Islam.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Fixed it fer ya
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 10:57:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 10:57:29 PM
We aren't at war with Islam but are at war with those who have perverted Islam.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Fixed it fer ya
You should fix it for Obongo CC.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 11:22:25 PM
Post by: cc on March 03, 2015, 11:22:25 PM
We aren't at war with Islam but are at war with those who have perverted Islam.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Fixed it fer ya
You should fix it for Obongo CC.
lol ... Even I couldn't fix that waste of space
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 11:31:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2015, 11:31:26 PM
We are at war with the perversion called islamQuote from: "cc li tarte"
Fixed it fer ya
You should fix it for Obongo CC.
lol ... Even I couldn't fix that waste of space
True enough!!
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
Jihadi John and his asylum-seeking family have milked the British benefits system for 20 years, the Mail can reveal today.
Housing the Islamic State executioner and his relatives in affluent parts of London has cost taxpayers up to £400,000.
One landlord said Mohammed Emwazi's family were 'parasites' and 'tenants from hell'. Incredibly, they are still believed to be pocketing £40,000 a year in handouts despite there being no sign of them in Britain.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
What else is new here?
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Apparently Mommy knew who it was immediately upon seeing the initial ISIS pic / video - but, chose to be Islamic instead of BritishQuote from: "cc li tarte"
What else is new here?
It's not unusual for a parent to protect their child, even when the child does some pretty awful things. Paternal instincts often times get in the way of right and wrong for various emotional reasons
I'm not condoning the mother's behavior but lets be real, this isn't just an exclusively Islamic thing.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Romero on March 04, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
Post by: Romero on March 04, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
If people only knew of the % of UK's islamics milking the UK tit
What is the percentage?
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
Apparently Mommy knew who it was immediately upon seeing the initial ISIS pic / video - but, chose to be Islamic instead of BritishQuote from: "cc li tarte"
What else is new here?
It's not unusual for a parent to protect their child, even when the child does some pretty awful things. Paternal instincts often times get in the way of right and wrong for various emotional reasons
I'm not condoning the mother's behavior but lets be real, this isn't just an exclusively Islamic thing.
I would protect my son no matter what he did. However, since he will never be a follower of the Islamic death ideology(nor white
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 06:32:34 PM
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 06:32:34 PM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 07:02:50 PM
Post by: cc on March 04, 2015, 07:02:50 PM
This is the family of a killer islamist. She chose not whether to protect the child. She chose to protect her slaughterer ideology .. the death cult ideology that always comes before familyApparently Mommy knew who it was immediately upon seeing the initial ISIS pic / video - but, chose to be Islamic instead of BritishQuote from: "cc li tarte"
What else is new here?
It's not unusual for a parent to protect their child, even when the child does some pretty awful things. Paternal instincts often times get in the way of right and wrong for various emotional reasons
I'm not condoning the mother's behavior but lets be real, this isn't just an exclusively Islamic thing.
Hey. We are talking about an ideology whose members don't blink about killing a wayward daughter ... We are talking about an ideology whose members HAVE TO hold islam above even close family
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2015, 08:05:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2015, 08:05:34 PM
I would not protect or lie for a child who was a danger to others whether the cause was driven by mental illness, criminality or a death cult like islam. In fact, I would turn it in if anyone else was in dangerQuote from: "cc li tarte"
You pose a moral dilemna I hope no mother would ever have to face..
Is the natural defense of our offspring more important than our duty to our fellow man?
What a terrible position for any mother to have to be in.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Gary Oak on March 04, 2015, 09:54:23 PM
Post by: Gary Oak on March 04, 2015, 09:54:23 PM
If people only knew of the % of UK's islamics milking the UK tit
What is the percentage?
Homoero will not take the hint that Islam wants him dead until he is in an orange jump suit lying on the ground with his hands tied behind his back.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on March 05, 2015, 10:50:15 AM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on March 05, 2015, 10:50:15 AM
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 05, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
Post by: cc on March 05, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
In real news ....
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.
The organisation is also asking supporters to "lobby your MP" to make "Islamophobia" a criminal offence.
They state that they intend "to launch a series of legal challenges in the English Court system" because "depictions of our Holy Prophet peace be upon Him is the worst kind of 'Hate Crime' that can be perpetrated on the 3 million Muslims in the UK and 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide."
The group says that they have "devised a legal strategy to prevent the continuous insulting and derogatory publications depicting and abusing the personality of our Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him."
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
In real news ....
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.
The organisation is also asking supporters to "lobby your MP" to make "Islamophobia" a criminal offence.
They state that they intend "to launch a series of legal challenges in the English Court system" because "depictions of our Holy Prophet peace be upon Him is the worst kind of 'Hate Crime' that can be perpetrated on the 3 million Muslims in the UK and 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide."
The group says that they have "devised a legal strategy to prevent the continuous insulting and derogatory publications depicting and abusing the personality of our Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him."
This really gets my fucking blood boiling. How can anyone still claim that Islam is anything other than a conquering ideology? They are trying and no doubt will eventually be successful in changing our basic societal value of free speech.
Multiculturalism was a nice idea until it came up against the Islamic ideology. Islam is not interested in integration.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: cc on March 05, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
Post by: cc on March 05, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
In real news ....
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.
The organisation is also asking supporters to "lobby your MP" to make "Islamophobia" a criminal offence.
They state that they intend "to launch a series of legal challenges in the English Court system" because "depictions of our Holy Prophet peace be upon Him is the worst kind of 'Hate Crime' that can be perpetrated on the 3 million Muslims in the UK and 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide."
The group says that they have "devised a legal strategy to prevent the continuous insulting and derogatory publications depicting and abusing the personality of our Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him."
This really gets my fucking blood boiling.They are trying and no doubt will eventually be successful in changing our basic societal value of free speech. How can anyone still claim that Islam is anything other than a conquering ideology?
Multiculturalism was a nice idea until it came up against the Islamic ideology.. Islam is not interested in integration
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
In real news ....
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.
The organisation is also asking supporters to "lobby your MP" to make "Islamophobia" a criminal offence.
They state that they intend "to launch a series of legal challenges in the English Court system" because "depictions of our Holy Prophet peace be upon Him is the worst kind of 'Hate Crime' that can be perpetrated on the 3 million Muslims in the UK and 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide."
The group says that they have "devised a legal strategy to prevent the continuous insulting and derogatory publications depicting and abusing the personality of our Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him."
This really gets my fucking blood boiling.They are trying and no doubt will eventually be successful in changing our basic societal value of free speech. How can anyone still claim that Islam is anything other than a conquering ideology?
Multiculturalism was a nice idea until it came up against the Islamic ideology.. Islam is not interested in integration
They have already had some success in curtailing free speech usually through threats(ask Wilders, that Somali-Dutch politician and Lars Viks). The next step with the assistance of their Western apologists will be through legal means.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
pathetic troll is pathetic ^Quote from: "cc li tarte"
In real news ....
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.
The organisation is also asking supporters to "lobby your MP" to make "Islamophobia" a criminal offence.
They state that they intend "to launch a series of legal challenges in the English Court system" because "depictions of our Holy Prophet peace be upon Him is the worst kind of 'Hate Crime'that can be perpetrated on the 3 million Muslims in the UK and 1.7 billion Muslims worldwide."
The group says that they have "devised a legal strategy to prevent the continuous insulting and derogatory publications depicting and abusing the personality of our Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him."hmmm .. ya think islam does not want equality .. rather wants "supremacy" to change and rule our society???
Islam should not be given special privileges that Christianity does not receive.
Our savior is not above criticism in a secular world and nor should their prophet.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2015, 12:25:52 PM
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2015, 12:25:52 PM
Apparently Mommy knew who it was immediately upon seeing the initial ISIS pic / video - but, chose to be Islamic instead of BritishQuote from: "cc li tarte"
What else is new here?
It's not unusual for a parent to protect their child, even when the child does some pretty awful things. Paternal instincts often times get in the way of right and wrong for various emotional reasons
I'm not condoning the mother's behavior but lets be real, this isn't just an exclusively Islamic thing.
Hey. We are talking about an ideology whose members don't blink about killing a wayward daughter ... We are talking about an ideology whose members HAVE TO hold islam above even close family
I understand all that crap about the ideology.
All I'm saying is that it is not unusual for a parent to protect a child even when it is wrong to do so. The reasons why some parents will do such things are varied, wrong headed and selfish. This type of behavior is not limited to this situation nor is it limited to Muslims and their ideology.
Title: Re: Jihadi John Identity Revealed
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
I understand all that crap about the ideology.
All I'm saying is that it is not unusual for a parent to protect a child even when it is wrong to do so. The reasons why some parents will do such things are varied, wrong headed and selfish. This type of behavior is not limited to this situation nor is it limited to Muslims and their ideology.
I too understand CC's point about the Islamofascist ideology. However, I remember examples of mothers protecting their kids who were murderers. As bad as it sounds, I too would struggle with what I would do in that situation.