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He just wanted to help

so no matter what he was doing all it was -- is helping

because he's a helper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmhevfMyo-A


yeah, a lookout during a bank robber is a "helper" too you fuckin dipshits.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 24, 2026, 06:20:43 PMHe just wanted to help

so no matter what he was doing all it was -- is helping

because he's a helper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmhevfMyo-A


yeah, a lookout during a bank robber is a "helper" too you fuckin dipshits.

What shamelessly biased reporting.

Another man was arrested in West Virginia allegedly for making similar threats against federal agents.

Two men were charged in separate cases this week for allegedly threatening to murder ICE agents.

Justin Mesael Novoa, 21, of Columbus, Ohio, was federally charged Thursday with making threatening interstate communications. Novoa apparently has been stewing for months, allegedly issuing threats on X which were brought to the attention of Homeland Security Investigations.

According to the Justice Department, HSI investigators came across a June 2025 post in which Novoa allegedly wrote, "They should blast every ice agent they find."

Apparently it was far from a one-off articulation of bloodthirst.

In November, Novoa allegedly wrote, "Can't wait to shoot these pussy ice agents.

Investigators subsequently found other troubling posts on Novoa's alleged X account including numerous anti-Semitic posts calling Jewish people "subhuman" and "filthy" as well as posts referencing Adolf Hitler.

When federal agents executed a search warrant at the radical's residence in December, they found body armor, a pair of military-issue helmets, two rifles, two shotguns, a handgun, and a wealth of ammunition.

A Palestinian flag reportedly also was found in Novoa's room.

In a separate case, a man from Harrison County, West Virginia, also was arrested this week for allegedly threatening to murder federal immigration agents and supporters of President Donald Trump. Cody Smith, 20, has been charged with making terroristic threats and was being held at North Central Regional Jail.

West Virginia State Police learned that Smith had posted videos of himself online in which he allegedly said he was going to attack and kill ICE agents and made threats against Trump. Smith also allegedly indicated on social media that he intended to murder Trump supporters and service members willing to "bootlick," reported WBOY-TV.

In ten minutes the libtards will declare that Pretti is Jesus.

It was Border Patrol, not ICE involved in this FAFO.

Border Patrol Agents did their job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOwAyLrUeXg

Could you imagine trying to do your job with these white karen commies in your face blowing whistles, screaming and physically getting in ur way. Those federal agents have incredible patience. They need a generous raise too.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 24, 2026, 09:00:22 PMCould you imagine trying to do your job with these white karen commies in your face blowing whistles, screaming and physically getting in ur way. Those federal agents have incredible patience. They need a generous raise too.

It is a testament to their strength, courage, commitment and training that they haven't wasted more of these fucking dipshits

I've watched at least 3 videos where I felt moving them down or spraying them with automatic weapons would have been totally justified

these ICE agents are better men than me

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 24, 2026, 07:56:30 PMIn ten minutes the libtards will declare that Pretti is Jesus.

Well, he DOES kinda look like a JOOOO!

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 24, 2026, 09:45:46 PMIt is a testament to their strength, courage, commitment and training that they haven't wasted more of these fucking dipshits

I've watched at least 3 videos where I felt moving them down or spraying them with automatic weapons would have been totally justified

these ICE agents are better men than me

Fucken Aye!  I couldn't do that job.

See? He was a kind hearted soul who cared deeply

So when his deep kindheartedness compelled him to show up and show out for deeply disturbing individuals whom ICE was trying to arrest ICE should have simply stood down, ceased operation or allow this kind hearted Pretti to lodge 9mm rounds deeply into their chests

Too bad he never cared this deeply for young innocent women like Laken Riley

Perhaps if this kindheartedness and deep caring the left seems to want to evangelize front, center and rear had extended to her and several other AMERICAN women like her he'd have stayed his ass home this morning and allowed ICE to do their fucking jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEswvk3EG0M

I don't give a shit what anyone says or theorizes on this one.

Once he showed up to confront law enforcement in a hostile manner while being armed it was totally a justified act to shoot him.

I don't need to see frame angles, hand movements ... blah blah fucking blah,

if I'm on the jury all the defense needs to do is prove this guy showed up armed acting in a hostile and confrontational manner and my verdict is NOT GUILTY

period. I don't give the first fuck what all the monday morning quarter backs that slither out of their comfort crevices have to say

You're on a tough job being harassed and nearly assaulted EVERY FUCKING DAY and you should NOT be expected to waste critical seconds pondering whether this guy owns and cat and takes his elderly neighbor's trash out every Tuesday and Friday and how that proves this makes him a good person who wont harm you.

you need to have the ability to react in a split second as it could mean life or death and I for one am not am not going to judge a guy making less than a 100K a year to put his life on the line nor weigh him down with a plethora of engagement rules

period

You don't want more Alex Prettis in your state? Stop stoking the fire and stay your ass home. these people you are protecting killed 18 of our bravest in their own shithole and dragged their bodies through the streets as trophies and wouldn't hesitate for 2 seconds to do the same to you if you showed up in Mogadishu tomorrow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zInK7hmlx6c

 I was reading liberal retards talking about this and I was FUMING

 They are saying "how many people gotta DIE before this stops!" And "when are we gonna fight back!"

 Motherfuckers STAY HOME you stupid FUCKS!  Leave law enforcement the fuck alone!

 The country overwhelmingly voted for our immigration laws to be enforced. Those LAW ENFORCEMENT agents are out there doing their job on behalf of the people.

 "How many gotta die!" I dont know bitch. How many are gonna keep running up and obstructing?

Quote from: Dove on January 24, 2026, 11:01:45 PMI was reading liberal retards talking about this and I was FUMING

 They are saying "how many people gotta DIE before this stops!" And "when are we gonna fight back!"

 Motherfuckers STAY HOME you stupid FUCKS!  Leave law enforcement the fuck alone!

 The country overwhelmingly voted for our immigration laws to be enforced. Those LAW ENFORCEMENT agents are out there doing their job on behalf of the people.

 "How many gotta die!" I dont know bitch. How many are gonna keep running up and obstructing?

This is why I say we should abandon Minnneapolis and let that fucking toilet rot.

Not a solitary single federal dollar should go into the place from this point forward

ICE leaves? Our Federal dollars leave with them. Period

fuck these ungrateful fucks

Leftists are insane. When hundreds of thousands showed up to peacefully protest on Jan 6, it was an insurrection.

When armed provocateurs harass and resist officers thus causing their own deaths, it's murder and a reason for insurrection.

There's no getting through to these kind of people.

Local store owners prepare for this round of ""peaceful protests""


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj1lgx4jHoU

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 24, 2026, 11:11:25 PMThis is why I say we should abandon Minnneapolis and let that fucking toilet rot.

Not a solitary single federal dollar should go into the place from this point forward

ICE leaves? Our Federal dollars leave with them. Period

fuck these ungrateful fucks

And barricade the borders and prevent illegals from flying in and out.

Quote from: Frood on January 24, 2026, 11:22:36 PMAnd barricade the borders and prevent illegals from flying in and out.

Ever saw that movie "escape from New York"?

that is what I am calling for here.

leave these scumbags to themselves and lets see if those pregnant forehead fucks help or hurt them

Quote from: Frood on January 24, 2026, 11:21:04 PMLeftists are insane. When hundreds of thousands showed up to peacefully protest on Jan 6, it was an insurrection.

When armed provocateurs harass and resist officers thus causing their own deaths, it's murder and a reason for insurrection.

There's no getting through to these kind of people.

They are getting what they want. Leftists love chaos and carnage.  I say give to them.  Sane people don't yell at law enforcement.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 24, 2026, 11:36:34 PMThey are getting what they want. Leftists love chaos and carnage.  I say give to them.  Sane people don't yell at law enforcement.

 ... and peaceful protestors don't bring loaded guns and extra ammo to peaceful protests.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 24, 2026, 11:53:25 PM... and peaceful protestors don't bring loaded guns and extra ammo to peaceful protests.

Maybe they intend to dub this one "lots of projectiles but mostly peaceful"

Walz needs to be face down in the dirt with the cuffs slapped on him!

Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2026, 12:27:22 AMWalz needs to be face down in the dirt with the cuffs slapped on him!

that scumbag needs to be face down in a fucking ditch

he's literally helped turn Minneapolis into Mogadishu

Thinking about all of the instances in the last 10 years where law enforcement or even normal citizens had to use deadly force and the leftist hysterical reaction you really have to wonder what set of circumstances in their minds would actually justify the use of force?

If your laying on the ground getting your head pummeled by an enraged teen. no good

if you're being chased by an angry mob with weapons hell bent on killing you. no good

if you're being rushed by a violent criminal with a knife. no good

if some crazed leftist idiot is running you over with her car. No good



And in every instance the left's justification for denying you your right to self defense? you shouldn't have been there.

But it's never a thought that maybe the leftist lunatic or criminal shouldn't have been there.


So at the end of the day all they really want is lawlessness. There will never be an instance where defending yourself is appropriate if you are on the wrong side of the political spectrum. So get used to it and move accordingly.

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Quote from: Oliver the Second on January 25, 2026, 10:34:58 AM(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/3421_25_01_26_10_33_28.png)

:crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

"About 200 rioters arrived at the scene and began to obstruct and assault law enforcement on the scene, crowd control measures were deployed for the safety of the public and law enforcement," DHS also said.

Border Patrol agents are trained extremely well to protect themselves, their fellow agents, and innocent third parties. When a supposed 'peaceful' protester brings a weapon (such as a loaded handgun) and brandishes it, there are going to severe consequences and repercussions," said the union.

"We have pleaded with and warned the media and the politicians that their irresponsible, hate-filled and false rhetoric is going to get people unnecessarily hurt, or worse, killed when they portray our agents and officers as the aggressors," continued the union. "They have encouraged these reckless confrontations and attacks on our agents and officers who are performing their lawful duties and enforcing the laws that Congress has put on the books."

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 24, 2026, 11:11:25 PMThis is why I say we should abandon Minnneapolis and let that fucking toilet rot.

Not a solitary single federal dollar should go into the place from this point forward

ICE leaves? Our Federal dollars leave with them. Period

fuck these ungrateful fucks

 ICE isnt leaving but if they did thats exactly what Trump would do.

Quote from: Frood on January 24, 2026, 11:21:04 PMLeftists are insane. When hundreds of thousands showed up to peacefully protest on Jan 6, it was an insurrection.

When armed provocateurs harass and resist officers thus causing their own deaths, it's murder and a reason for insurrection.

There's no getting through to these kind of people.

 The scary part is how locked in they are with this bullshit 

Quote from: DKG on January 25, 2026, 10:57:35 AM"About 200 rioters arrived at the scene and began to obstruct and assault law enforcement on the scene, crowd control measures were deployed for the safety of the public and law enforcement," DHS also said.

Border Patrol agents are trained extremely well to protect themselves, their fellow agents, and innocent third parties. When a supposed 'peaceful' protester brings a weapon (such as a loaded handgun) and brandishes it, there are going to severe consequences and repercussions," said the union.

"We have pleaded with and warned the media and the politicians that their irresponsible, hate-filled and false rhetoric is going to get people unnecessarily hurt, or worse, killed when they portray our agents and officers as the aggressors," continued the union. "They have encouraged these reckless confrontations and attacks on our agents and officers who are performing their lawful duties and enforcing the laws that Congress has put on the books."

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that in a city flooded with law enforcement a normal resident like Pretty dumb or whatever that clown's name was isn't packing a 9mm for self defense. Especially when he is putting himself in the vicinity of large clusters of law enforcement personnel

what crime is he worried about in such an area that he feels compelled to carry a loaded handgun with extra clips?

none.. is the obvious answer

He was there looking for trouble and found it. End of. 

Quote from: Reggie Essent on January 24, 2026, 11:36:34 PMThey are getting what they want. Leftists love chaos and carnage.  I say give to them.  Sane people don't yell at law enforcement.

Could you imagine seeing a police raid...and instead of minding your own business, you pull over and run up on it yelling and screaming and than act surprised when you get your ass thrown on the ground, get pepper sprayed or tased or shot?

Because this is the same thing. Protesting law enforcement as they go about their business is insane. Even illegal migrants think these people are nuts.

Quote from: Frood on January 24, 2026, 11:21:04 PMLeftists are insane. When hundreds of thousands showed up to peacefully protest on Jan 6, it was an insurrection.

When armed provocateurs harass and resist officers thus causing their own deaths, it's murder and a reason for insurrection.

There's no getting through to these kind of people.

they weep and moan when these agitators make physical contact with law enforcement in a dangerous manner

but Ashley Babbit was shot in a hallway at a lengthy distance and what did they do? Reward the scumbag cop who shot her

these people truly believe that no one is capable of seeing through their bullshit and obnoxious lies

Quote from: Dove on January 25, 2026, 11:13:31 AMCould you imagine seeing a police raid...and instead of minding your own business, you pull over and run up on it yelling and screaming and than act surprised when you get your ass thrown on the ground, get pepper sprayed or tased or shot?

Because this is the same thing. Protesting law enforcement as they go about their business is insane. Even illegal migrants think these people are nuts.

How many of these pregnant headed somalis are you seeing in these ""peaceful protests""?

that's right, none. Because they are all sitting in their homes laughing at these idiots and in some instances, in total disbelief that a population would be so stupid so as to behave in a manner totally inconsistent with it's own survival

Quote from: Lokmar on January 24, 2026, 09:57:44 PMWell, he DOES kinda look like a JOOOO!

Go away, you muslim.   :s_laugh:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 11:14:22 AMthey weep and moan when these agitators make physical contact with law enforcement in a dangerous manner

but Ashley Babbit was shot in a hallway at a lengthy distance and what did they do? Reward the scumbag cop who shot her

these people truly believe that no one is capable of seeing through their bullshit and obnoxious lies

You're preaching to the choir here bro... and I generally despise all cops.

I'm so libertarian that I will fuck with random cops just because I enjoy making them feel inferor... I hate the motherfuckers. Somebody once coined them the biggest street gang on this earth or existence.

I relished the few times in the last decades that some Gung ho cop or pair of them set foot on my property and started barking orders at me while I had a camera or two rolling.... but I knew the score. My property.... repeated demands that they leave, and answering loaded questions with questions about their behaviour on my property. They could have shot me.... but they are always afraid of a second or third set of cameras, so you can politely call them bullies, cowards, and small dicked motherfuckers.

But I would NEVER interfere with an operation or get close if I was packing. That's a suicide wish.

These Leftists are beyond John Wayne... their Marion's...

Quote from: Oliver the Second on January 25, 2026, 10:34:58 AM(https://thebluecashew.net/gallery/3421_25_01_26_10_33_28.png)

POST OF THE YEAR!!!!  :s_laugh:  :s_laugh:

It will not be topped this year.  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Does anybody think that shooting was not justified. They did disarm the guy.

Quote from: Brent on January 25, 2026, 11:55:57 AMDoes anybody think that shooting was not justified. They did disarm the guy.

Yeah technically they did disarm him but I still say fuck him. How would an officer know he doesn't have something else on him that could be of harm?

I'm not willing to burden these people will all kinds of rules and stipulations when it comes to defending themselves in a hostile situation we are asking them to go into

Once you show aggression and make yourself a threat you are fair game and I really don't care about the intracate details that occur afterwards

Old saying. Don't want no trouble? Don't start none and there won't be none

Quote from: Dove on January 25, 2026, 11:08:17 AMThe scary part is how locked in they are with this bullshit 

We need to make THEM scared. kill more of them.

Quote from: Brent on January 25, 2026, 11:55:57 AMDoes anybody think that shooting was not justified. They did disarm the guy.

I think whats possible is:

A cop didnt realize another cop secured the gun and he yelled "GUN, GUN, GUN"
The dipshit had ANOTHER gun, possibly that he took from another officer.

The fact is, the shooting was justified because the cop THOUGHT his life was in danger.

If we're in a dark alley and you come at me with your hand in your pocket and suddenly pull out something and I think its a gun, you're getting shot and I'm walking free. At least in a normal state.

Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on January 25, 2026, 11:38:21 AMGo away, you muslim.   :s_laugh:

ARYAN WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2026, 01:04:22 PMI think whats possible is:

A cop didnt realize another cop secured the gun and he yelled "GUN, GUN, GUN"
The dipshit had ANOTHER gun, possibly that he took from another officer.

The fact is, the shooting was justified because the cop THOUGHT his life was in danger.

If we're in a dark alley and you come at me with your hand in your pocket and suddenly pull out something and I think its a gun, you're getting shot and I'm walking free. At least in a normal state.

and that's key. An officer need only believe his life is in danger and that belief need only be reasonable to warrant taking you out.

Is it reasonable to believe that as an ice agent your life is in danger in the environment Minnesota politicians have created and continue to nurture? Absolutely

And to anyone believing otherwise  Ie these officers are bloodthirsty I counter with.  If you truly believe that then stay the fuck away from them

But see they don't believe that which is why they keep pushing the line so obviously more of them need to die so that the message is crystal clear

I feel no sympathy for this tard or that stupid Lezbollah bitch who rammed her truck into an agent

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 01:25:18 PMand that's key. An officer need only believe his life is in danger and that belief need only be reasonable to warrant taking you out.

Is it reasonable to believe that as an ice agent your life is in danger in the environment Minnesota politicians have created and continue to nurture? Absolutely

And to anyone believing otherwise  Ie these officers are bloodthirsty I counter with.  If you truly believe that then stay the fuck away from them

But see they don't believe that which is why they keep pushing the line so obviously more of them need to die so that the message is crystal clear

I feel no sympathy for this tard or that stupid Lezbollah bitch who rammed her truck into an agent

Did you hear a cop got his fukin finger bit clean off by one of those fuckers?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-ice-agitator-allegedly-bites-off-federal-officers-finger-during-minneapolis-attack

They should have shot that fucker in the face or at least knocked all his/her/zim/zer's teeth out! FACT!

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 01:25:18 PM"Lezbollah bitch"

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 01:25:18 PMand that's key. An officer need only believe his life is in danger and that belief need only be reasonable to warrant taking you out.

Is it reasonable to believe that as an ice agent your life is in danger in the environment Minnesota politicians have created and continue to nurture? Absolutely

And to anyone believing otherwise  Ie these officers are bloodthirsty I counter with.  If you truly believe that then stay the fuck away from them

But see they don't believe that which is why they keep pushing the line so obviously more of them need to die so that the message is crystal clear

I feel no sympathy for this tard or that stupid Lezbollah bitch who rammed her truck into an agent

It is a clear contradiction to claim on one hand that ICE agents are trigger happy killers and then get in their faces and interfere with their sworn duties.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 25, 2026, 01:34:56 PMDid you hear a cop got his fukin finger bit clean off by one of those fuckers?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-ice-agitator-allegedly-bites-off-federal-officers-finger-during-minneapolis-attack

They should have shot that fucker in the face or at least knocked all his/her/zim/zer's teeth out! FACT!

yeah I saw that

but the scum on the left believe these officers shouldn't be on a hair trigger right now

Quote from: Thiel on January 25, 2026, 01:37:19 PMIt is a clear contradiction to claim on one hand that ICE agents are trigger happy killers and then get in their faces and interfere with their sworn duties.

that's exactly how you know they are lying scumbags

the leftist politicians WANT this outcome

Progs are screaming that Trump is turning the US into a fascist state. The reality is that progs have already turned the US into an anarchist state.

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Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 24, 2026, 09:45:46 PMIt is a testament to their strength, courage, commitment and training that they haven't wasted more of these fucking dipshits

I've watched at least 3 videos where I felt moving them down or spraying them with automatic weapons would have been totally justified

these ICE agents are better men than me

Did you know one ICE agent had his finger bitten off by one those feral white marxist thugs.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 25, 2026, 09:33:18 PMDid you know one ICE agent had his finger bitten off by one those feral white marxist thugs.

Yes, and despite that these scumbag leftists will tell you that these domestic terrorists are peaceful protesters and that these ICE agents are completely unjustified fearing for their lives

they are the lowest form of vermin scum imaginable

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 09:36:31 PMYes, and despite that these scumbag leftists will tell you that these domestic terrorists are peaceful protesters and that these ICE agents are completely unjustified fearing for their lives

they are the lowest form of vermin scum imaginable

BULLSEYE!!

Alex Pretti, the anti-ICE agitator who was shot in Minneapolis on Saturday, was told by his parents not to engage with federal officers while attending the protests in Minnesota.

QuoteIn recent conversations with their 37-year-old son, Pretti's parents had told him not to engage with federal officers. "We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically," Michael Pretti added, per CBS News. "And he said he knows that. He knew that."
https://thepostmillennial.com/alex-prettis-parents-speak-out-after-sons-death-say-they-told-him-not-to-engage-with-feds

In Minneapolis, these rioters attacked our law enforcement officer and one of them bit off our HSI officer's finger.
https://x.com/TriciaOhio/status/2015162551055573054

Quote from: Shen Li on January 25, 2026, 09:41:26 PMAlex Pretti, the anti-ICE agitator who was shot in Minneapolis on Saturday, was told by his parents not to engage with federal officers while attending the protests in Minnesota.

He broke the law by obstructing federal agents. He violently resisted a disarming attempt.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 25, 2026, 12:41:03 PMYeah technically they did disarm him but I still say fuck him. How would an officer know he doesn't have something else on him that could be of harm?

I'm not willing to burden these people will all kinds of rules and stipulations when it comes to defending themselves in a hostile situation we are asking them to go into

Once you show aggression and make yourself a threat you are fair game and I really don't care about the intracate details that occur afterwards

Old saying. Don't want no trouble? Don't start none and there won't be none

Alex Pretti went there looking to break the law and get in the agent's faces while they do their jobs.

Chris Cuomo interviewed Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey. Mr. Frey told Mr. Cuomo that he is under no obligation to obey any laws that he personally does not like.

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Quote from: DKG on January 26, 2026, 07:43:52 AMHe broke the law by obstructing federal agents. He violently resisted a disarming attempt.

You'll get no argument from me. Nobody brings a loaded gun with 2 mags to a peaceful protest.

Don't be lectured by people who cheer political violence and then claim the moral high ground.

- They laughed and celebrated when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
- They praised and lionized Luigi Mangione.
- They mocked the attempted assassination of President Trump and said the shooter should've been better.
- They never mourned Ashley Babbitt.
- They never mourned Laken Riley.
- They never mourned Jocelyn Nungary.
- They never mourned Iryna Zarutska.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 26, 2026, 10:51:56 PMYou'll get no argument from me. Nobody brings a loaded gun with 2 mags to a peaceful protest.

ICE officers were justified shooting his ass the minute he showed up with any hostile intent while carrying a loaded firearm

these guys are expected to make snap decisions that could mean life or death for themselves in a hostile environment where the stated goal of the people and even the politicians is to kill them

Couple that with the sleep deprivation they are subjecting these guys to night after night and the general emotional drainage and you have to ask yourself  -- even if this guy made a poor decision in retrospect can we hold him to it given the totality of the situation?

I for one would acquit the ICE officer NO MATTER what video you showed me -- wouldn't matter at all. Guy is well within the guardrails of self defense and the mob's daily activities alone are a testament to that.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 26, 2026, 10:56:32 PMICE officers were justified shooting his ass the minute he showed up with any hostile intent while carrying a loaded firearm

these guys are expected to make snap decisions that could mean life or death for themselves in a hostile environment where the stated goal of the people and even the politicians is to kill them

Couple that with the sleep deprivation they are subjecting these guys to night after night and the general emotional drainage and you have to ask yourself  -- even if this guy made a poor decision in retrospect can we hold him to it given the totality of the situation?

I for one would acquit the ICE officer NO MATTER what video you showed me -- wouldn't matter at all. Guy is well within the guardrails of self defense and the mob's daily activities alone are a testament to that.

Crowd and riot control is not their specialty. That is a job better suited to local police. However, the asshole mayor and governor will not let the police assist.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 26, 2026, 11:09:07 PMCrowd and riot control is not their specialty. That is a job better suited to local police. However, the asshole mayor and governor will not let the police assist.

  The state government is actively behind this. There is nothing organic about it.

 I am convinced state police are dressed as civilians out there involved in the chaos. I think they WANT Trump to use the insurrection act and send military.

 MN is a fucking cesspool. Not even in CA are people doing this shit.

Quote from: Brent on January 25, 2026, 11:55:57 AMDoes anybody think that shooting was not justified. They did disarm the guy.

 I dont know MN gun laws but its pretty consistent state to state that if you have a firearm and you are approaching law enforcement, you keep your hands raised and tell them immediately that you are in possession of a firearm and follow that up with "my liscence to carry is in my wallet". And keep those hands up and visable. These officers dont know you, they deal with unhinged people all day, and its incredible how fast someone can go from non-threatening to unloading rounds into another human. So they have to assume you are dangerous.....so hands have to be SEEN. Not down by your waist or behind you.

 You do NOT go running up to law enforcement with a firearm. Ever.

 You might not get shot. But if you do get shot...it will be justified.

 You cant just go "help" someone that law enforcement just put on the ground either. Thats dumb and possibly a felony.

 This guy fucked up all over the place.

 If you think law enforcement may be brutalizing someone, you film it from a safe distance and get that footage into the hands of whoever needs it for that person's court case....you NEVER interfer. You dont know why they even have that person.  Law enforcement typically doesn't just walk around beating people or throwing them around. Im sure it happens here or there....but its NOT some norm and if they are busy whooping someone's ass, odds are good that person has done something to bring this on themselves.  Getting involved is STUPID. And a felony. And even if that person is innocent and being abused by police.....you are definately not helping shit by jumping in to get your ass whooped too.  Staying away and filming it is vastly more helpful.

 The minute someone decides to play hero against law enforcement is the minute they get thrown to the ground, pepper sprayed in the eyes, possibly tased or shot.

 I really dont know why anyone would be stupid enough to try to fight officers of the law in the streets. Absolutely NO ONE has done that and won lol. NO police anywhere have ever said "well we were gonna bring you in, but you resisted so hard we are letting you go! Congratz!! Guess we wont arrest you after all!"  No. They will beat your ass until you are compliant and if you have a weapon or grab for theirs? Youre dead. Thats it for you.

 I dont get their end game. None of these brainwashed wackos are thinking any of this through.  If they are thinking this through and still doing it? They are psychotic.

 I've seen several tik toks of these liberals lefties talking about how they are ready to die by law enforcement.  Pumping themselves up to go get creamed by officers. Its wild. If i see more of them I'll post it. They are crazy.

 My man just chuckles and says "hey the problem is solving itself"

 He ain't wrong lmao

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 04:20:47 AMThe state government is actively behind this. There is nothing organic about it. 

Precisely.

Trump's three point plan to end the criminal insurrection in Minneapolis is very reasonable.


It calls for state and local law enforcement to agree to turn over all undocumented immigrants who are arrested by local police and for local police to assist federal law enforcement in apprehending and detaining undocumented immigrants who are wanted for crimes, especially violent ones.

ICE must get cooperation from local police forces like they do in Florida and Texas.

Kash Patel is looking into who is funding the lawlessness in Minneapolis.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 26, 2026, 10:51:56 PMYou'll get no argument from me. Nobody brings a loaded gun with 2 mags to a peaceful protest.

Or picks fights with federal peace officers and resists arrest.

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 04:31:55 AMI dont know MN gun laws but its pretty consistent state to state that if you have a firearm and you are approaching law enforcement, you keep your hands raised and tell them immediately that you are in possession of a firearm and follow that up with "my liscence to carry is in my wallet". And keep those hands up and visable. These officers dont know you, they deal with unhinged people all day, and its incredible how fast someone can go from non-threatening to unloading rounds into another human. So they have to assume you are dangerous.....so hands have to be SEEN. Not down by your waist or behind you.

 You do NOT go running up to law enforcement with a firearm. Ever.

 You might not get shot. But if you do get shot...it will be justified.

 You cant just go "help" someone that law enforcement just put on the ground either. Thats dumb and possibly a felony.

 This guy fucked up all over the place.

 If you think law enforcement may be brutalizing someone, you film it from a safe distance and get that footage into the hands of whoever needs it for that person's court case....you NEVER interfer. You dont know why they even have that person.  Law enforcement typically doesn't just walk around beating people or throwing them around. Im sure it happens here or there....but its NOT some norm and if they are busy whooping someone's ass, odds are good that person has done something to bring this on themselves.  Getting involved is STUPID. And a felony. And even if that person is innocent and being abused by police.....you are definately not helping shit by jumping in to get your ass whooped too.  Staying away and filming it is vastly more helpful.

 The minute someone decides to play hero against law enforcement is the minute they get thrown to the ground, pepper sprayed in the eyes, possibly tased or shot.

 I really dont know why anyone would be stupid enough to try to fight officers of the law in the streets. Absolutely NO ONE has done that and won lol. NO police anywhere have ever said "well we were gonna bring you in, but you resisted so hard we are letting you go! Congratz!! Guess we wont arrest you after all!"  No. They will beat your ass until you are compliant and if you have a weapon or grab for theirs? Youre dead. Thats it for you.

 I dont get their end game. None of these brainwashed wackos are thinking any of this through.  If they are thinking this through and still doing it? They are psychotic.

 I've seen several tik toks of these liberals lefties talking about how they are ready to die by law enforcement.  Pumping themselves up to go get creamed by officers. Its wild. If i see more of them I'll post it. They are crazy.

 My man just chuckles and says "hey the problem is solving itself"

 He ain't wrong lmao

They took away his gun. Unless the border patrol agents thought he had another gun or a knife, was his shooting justified? I am just throwing that out there.

This is what happens when Jacob Frey doesn't put handcuffs on Minnesota police.

Radicals swarmed a hotel in Maple Grove, Minnesota, on Monday night, working under the presumption that U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino was inside. While some in the mob appeared keen at the outset to simply scream, bang their pans, and impotently blow whistles in protest of CBP and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, others decided to get violent.

The Maple Grove Police Department, which responded around 8 p.m. to reports of a protest at the SpringHill Suites by Marriott, demonstrated that it has a lower tolerance for attacks on law enforcement than their local counterparts in Minneapolis — and the proof manifested in tear gas and arrests.

"The situation escalated when individuals in the crowd engaged in unlawful behavior," the MGPD said in a statement. "Property damage occurred, and objects were thrown at officers. At that point, the activity was no longer considered peaceful."

After declaring the mob action an unlawful assembly, police issued a dispersal order. Footage shows police securing the area around the hotel, standing off with radicals, then systematically driving away the mob.

In addition to using pepper balls, Maple Grove police — who were assisted by the Minnesota State Patrol, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, and the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office apparently utilized tear gas to drive away rioters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljC8aHN3AY

Quote from: Brent on January 27, 2026, 12:05:46 PMThey took away his gun. Unless the border patrol agents thought he had another gun or a knife, was his shooting justified? I am just throwing that out there.

 It doesnt matter. There was no way for all of them to know in that split second that he was unarmed.

 All they knew is he was armed and resisting.  When the officer said "gun!" thats a wrap.

 Its justified. Bottom line? Don't try to get involved in that situation with law enforcement with a gun and DONT resist arrest....especially with a gun.

 This exact kind of situation is one of the many reasons why its illegal to do what he did. Obstructing and interfering. Not telling them you have a gun. This is what can happen.

 No matter how much training is involved these are still human beings in high stress situations.

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 02:17:14 PMNo matter how much training is involved these are still human beings in high stress situations.

Human beings who are morally and physically exhausted. Night after night these animals are showing up to the hotels the agents are staying at and harassing them ALL NIGHT LONG

how much sleep you think you're average agent over there has had in the last two week? 5 or 6 hours maybe?

And they are expected to make solid decisions in an instant under circumstances like that?

No way.

this agent could have pulled his gun and fired at this guy from 20 ft away and I'd still vote to acquit if I'm on the jury

y0u don't put law enforcement in hostile situations for what amounts to peanuts and then straddle them with all kinds of rules of engagement that can cause them to lose their lives.

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 02:31:54 PMI was really saddend by the passing of Alex Pretti.

A registered Nurse, he provided sermons for American miitary veterans, Dove:

so one of the 'good ones' in your country was taken too soon, I'm afraid.

Did he help his landlady carry out her garbage too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXH0vuwC3Zk

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 02:39:18 PMVery True what they say....Only the Good die young, Bi gly.

Like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ASdk2N97YB8

I still remember the day Clemente died, Bi gly.

Wasn't long after he hit 500 home runs and 3000 hits in MLB.

He did so many think unecessarily when he got on a flight that crashed....

....helping others.

Oh yeah?


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Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 02:31:54 PMI was really saddend by the passing of Alex Pretti.

A registered Nurse, he provided sermons for American miitary veterans, Dove:

so one of the 'good ones' in your country was taken too soon, I'm afraid.

He wasnt taken. He voluntarily gave himself for a jackassassassassassassassassass ass cause. He CHOSE to go down there. He CHOSE to take his firearm and 46 rounds to this hostile mess being created by agitators.

Then he approached law enforcement to "help" someone they had already put on the ground.

Then he resisted arrest while having a gun on him.

You know one of the major skills I have honed over the years having PTSD and substance abuse issues? This skill we call "playing the tape".

Look at how many steps were involved between this gentleman being at home, and the getting 11 rounds pumped into him by federal agents. There were A LOT steps involved in this. A LOT.

He could have changed his mind at every single step. He could have thought "man....wtf am I doing?" And just had a beer, went to bed.  From point A at home all the way to point B becoming a bullet filled corpse....he had A LOT choices he made that were bad. He didnt have to die. He ran into his death.

His bad decision making stayed consistent right up until he had the dumb fuck idea to get up close to law enforcement without announcing he has a gun and holding his hands up.

Why couldn't he stay off the side filming? He KNEW he had a gun. He knew he had it. He knew he had 46 bullets. So why did this absolute dumb ass get involved? Without even telling them he was armed. That is suicide, Joe. Every gun owner knows it.

If some asshole shoves a fork into a light socket ....was that asshole "taken from us too soon"?  No. He did a dumb and now he is dead.

I have had guns 80 percent of my life. I have had a gun....and my permit....for the past 12 years. It was one the first things I did when I got clean and got my life in order.

The very minute he inserted himself into that situation he was toast. Had he NOT got shot he would have been lucky.

Why dont you go watch police cam videos and see how this bullshit plays out on a daily basis. Its COMMON SENSE and now we are all getting gaslit like what happened to that man wasnt predictable.

I dont enjoy it, Joe. It isnt about that. It isnt even about him DESERVING it. This is about consequences. When you start fucking with people...especially law enforcement...and you do so armed? You WILL be judged FAST as a threat.

Anyone who isnt self aware enough to understand this shouldn't be carrying a firearm. We have a responsibility to our communities to act and conduct ourselves properly when we have our guns in public.

I suppose its too much for these liberal leftists to actually have the required empathy to be good and responsible citizens of a Republic.

If liberal leftists regarded and cared about democracy, they wouldn't be out there going against the will of the people in the first place. Theyd be raising money to help migrants with paperwork issues, visa problems, ect...and operating within the framework of our laws.

They CHOSE violence. So they have no business crying when violence finds them.

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 06:40:39 PMAlex Pretti & Roberto Clemente were Catholic just like you, Bi gly.

An' Clemente was a Puerto Rican just like you.

Both were good Catholics too who did their duty ta help others Biggie Smiles.

Remember that. Don' ferget it, eh?

Yer Pope wouldn't approve Bi gly.

 Who exactly did they help?

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 06:40:39 PMAlex Pretti & Roberto Clemente were Catholic just like you, Bi gly.

An' Clemente was a Puerto Rican just like you.

Both were good Catholics too who did their duty ta help others Biggie Smiles.

Remember that. Don' ferget it, eh?

Yer Pope wouldn't approve Bi gly.

I'm not catholic and fuck alex pretty and the pope

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 02:28:54 PMHuman beings who are morally and physically exhausted. Night after night these animals are showing up to the hotels the agents are staying at and harassing them ALL NIGHT LONG

how much sleep you think you're average agent over there has had in the last two week? 5 or 6 hours maybe?

And they are expected to make solid decisions in an instant under circumstances like that?

No way.

this agent could have pulled his gun and fired at this guy from 20 ft away and I'd still vote to acquit if I'm on the jury

y0u don't put law enforcement in hostile situations for what amounts to peanuts and then straddle them with all kinds of rules of engagement that can cause them to lose their lives.

 And THIS is why "qualified immunity" exists. 

 Nothing is going to happen to the officer who shot this guy. Its an unfortunate situation. But there was no way for him to know if the guy still had the gun or  not.

 Its a justified shooting and thats gonna piss people off but...oh well. People need to understand law and how our country works.

 We need to stop catering to ignorance.

 When REAL tyranny or abuse happens its serious. This isnt it.

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 06:59:29 PMAnd THIS is why "qualified immunity" exists.

The same clowns who are weeping and moaning over this clown's self instigated death had nothing to say when a rogue cop murdered a military veteran who served her country faithfully from down a lengthy hallway where there couldn't possibily be any threat of death or bodily harm

so they can all get fucked with both feet in their mouths over this petty clown and that stupid Lezbollah terrorist who thought she was above the law. 

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 06:51:00 PMFunny thing, that's how Roberto Clemente died too, Dove.

He went out of his way to help others against the advice and warnings of relief agencies.

He CHOSE to put himself in harm's way selflessly and that's what Got him killed as well.

IN a cryptic way, he frequently said he probably wouldn't live long and would go when God called him.

Clemente had a sense of his impending mortality.

So in the end God taok him.

So who did they help and how did they help?

 Let's unpack this.

 Jerking off ones ego and calling it "help" is rampant these days.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 07:02:33 PMThe same clowns who are weeping and moaning over this clown's self instigated death had nothing to say when a rogue cop murdered a military veteran who served her country faithfully from down a lengthy hallway where there couldn't possibily be any threat of death or bodily harm

so they can all get fucked with both feet in their mouths over this petty clown and that stupid Lezbollah terrorist who thought she was above the law. 

 We already know this isnt about anything but power.

 They know too.

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 07:05:48 PMWe already know this isnt about anything but power.

 They know too.

Imagine dying to protect somalis who defraud us at scale.

Somalis aren't even willing to die to protect Somalis

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 07:07:49 PMImagine dying to protect somalis who defraud us at scale.

Somalis aren't even willing to die to protect Somalis

 It isnt even about the damn bobble headed Somalis.

 Its about power over the country and defeating their opposition.

 They dont give a single rip fuck about any of the illegal migrants. They just hate US.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 07:07:49 PMImagine dying to protect somalis who defraud us at scale.

Somalis aren't even willing to die to protect Somalis

 So hey Big, lemme ask you a question

 Let's say for some reason you are getting your ass whooped by police. Or ICE. Or any law enforcement.

 Right? You were in the wrong place at the wrong time...did nothing...but they started curb stomping your ass and pepper spraying you. And I happen to be there and I have my 9mil glock..nothing fancy. Just ole faithful.

 Would like me to

 A. Stand off at a safe distance and film everything while keeping my hands and fire arm visable at all times

 Or

 B. Should I run up into a gaggle of officers who are whooping your ass to HELP you with my fire arm concealed?

 What course of action here would help you in this situation the most? Me being able to provide you with evidence of police brutality or me getting 11 rounds unloaded into my dainty white girl body because I was so emotionally sad about them being rough with you?

 Think about it as long as you need to lol

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 07:15:19 PMSo hey Big, lemme ask you a question

 Let's say for some reason you are getting your ass whooped by police. Or ICE. Or any law enforcement.

 Right? You were in the wrong place at the wrong time...did nothing...but they started curb stomping your ass and pepper spraying you. And I happen to be there and I have my 9mil glock..nothing fancy. Just ole faithful.

 Would like me to

 A. Stand off at a safe distance and film everything while keeping my hands and fire arm visable at all times

 Or

 B. Should I run up to HELP you with my fire arm concealed?

 What course of action here would help you in this situation the most? Me being able to provide you with evidence of police brutality or me getting 11 rounds unloaded into my dainty white girl body because I was so emotionally sad about them being rough with you?

 Think about it as long as you need to lol

I gave that .003 seconds and here's my answer

I want you to stay as far away as you can for your own safety NOT making any hostile moves and continuing to record the event so that it can be used to vindicate me later.

but this is because I care for you and your welfare as a friend and a fellow human being.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 07:17:53 PMI gave that .003 seconds and here's my answer

I want you to stay as far away as you can for your own safety NOT making any hostile moves and continuing to record the event so that it can be used to vindicate me later.

but this is because I care for you and your welfare as a friend and a fellow human being.

 Good because if you want me to suicide run into the officers, im gonna have to rethink our relationship lol.

 If police were whooping MY ass....just film it. Don't go running up and involving yourself. Jesus Christ.  :facepalm: Im SURE I'll live and they will get an ambulance for you after they fuck you up. No need for anyone to die over it. If its brutality FILM IT.

 So the woman this guy went to help is perfectly fine. Not even injured at all. He is swiss cheese. Im fact shes probably traumatized now because dumb ass got shot right in front of her. So he did MORE damage in every way.

 So....who did he help? Right NO ONE. He made a dangerous and high stress situation vastly WORSE and he is dead for nothing.

 Id never get my ass whooped by police anyway because I will never fight or challange them in the streets.

 If they grab me im going limp and letting them do whatever they are gonna do.

 And if they abuse me or violate my rights in anyway, im going to calmly allow it and as soon as im safe im asking for medical attention and an attorney.

 I've had a bad run in with police once before. It was mistaken identify and they treated me to a felony stop. It was fucking terrifying. But I cooperated and it got cleared up. I was crying a lot and they felt really bad and apologized profusely but...it is what it is and shit happens.  They mistook me for someone who just committed an armed robbery and they treated me exactly like that until they realized it wasnt me. I cooperated to best of my ability with yelling cop with his gun drawn...it was NOT pleasant. At all. 

 It was a mistake on their behalf. They were not monsters because of it. They truly felt awful and said "we really try to not mistakes like this because we understand this is very frightening experince". 

 I could have made it a lot worse than it already was but...I like staying alive lol.

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 08:06:07 PMIm disappointed by your responses Dove.

You cried out of outrage & asked for public sympathy when Charlie Kirk was shot dead. And many liberals and those on the Left actually offered their to he and his surviving family. condolences and sympathies Dove. And Yet you offer no sympathy for the Minnesota shooting victims.

I offered my sympathies to Charlie Kirk and his widow.

So why cant you the same for 'the other side' Dove.

because the other side are lowlife cock sucking scum who deserve what they get

now fuck off and take your fake sympathies with you

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 08:06:07 PMIm disappointed by your responses Dove.

You cried out of outrage & asked for public sympathy when Charlie Kirk was shot dead. And many liberals and those on the Left actually offered their condolences and sympathies  to he and his surviving family Dove. And Yet you offer no sympathy for the Minnesota shooting victims.

I offered my sympathies to Charlie Kirk and his widow.

So why cant you the same for 'the other side' Dove.

 I didnt do that. I knew when Charlie Kirk was murdered the left would celebrate it. Im well aware the liberal left are savages who want violence and bloodshed of people they disagree with 

 I never once expected, or called for ANY sympathy. For the same reasons I dont expect my dog Eddie to do algebra.  I dont ask for or expect anything from anyone that I know they are incapable of giving.

 I stopped believing a long time ago that liberal leftists were even capable of empathy. I have watched these people destroy US communities, beat and kill innocent people...even children. Drive into parades and mock children killed in floods.

 I never "cried out in outrage" over Kirk, nor did I ask tyrannical sociopaths for sympathy.

 I observe and I point out. Thats it.

 I expect gas lighting attempts like this one you just did.

 Shooting a man for no reason who is doing nothing more than hosting a legal event isnt the same thing as a law enforcement officers shooting a person who got involved in them carrying out lawful duties while having a gun on him.

 But I dont know how capable any of you are in understanding why those two situations are fundamentally different. And that is terrifying and I hope that we never end up at the mercy of people who are this in capable of empathy and who cannot grasp nuance, context or discern information.

 I appreciate your severe limitations here and I understand that in your head this is only about "sides".  That your grasp of this is not much deeper than "they were upset when we shot one of theirs....now they are mocking us because they shot one of ours!" Like i GET this is the mentality here. And its fucking SCARY.

 There is right and wrong. We have laws and processes. NO ONE on the liberal left understands any of it....and if any do? They are gaslighting and lying than for the sake of this cold civil war.

 Never at any point in any state can anyone...me included...get involved myself in a police confrontation with a gun without being tased or shot.

 The rules we ALL have to follow dont magically change to accommodate angry liberals who hate democracy.

 What law was Charlie Kirk breaking?

 I swear to God we have a massive intelligence gap in the world because if you cant see the different between Charlie Kirk being murdered over speech the tyrants didnt like and a guy committing felonies and resisting arrest with a gun?

 We can't discuss this. You are not equipped to discuss this. You cant understand any of it.

 If Charlie Kirk was out there obstructing law enforcement and had a gun on him and resisted arrest? He would have been shot there as well. And it would still be justified.

 With the way so many of you think in this one dimensional, no nuance way.....like Kirks murder was the same as Pretti....thats a terrifying world you are hoping for. 

 A lot of you are disconnected from reality. Or pretending to be. Either way....its ridiculous, Joe. And dishonest. 

 Be better than this.

The owner of BF is the worst forum admin. But, charging a fee to post is a good idea for forum cancers like Seamoron. I think it's time Joe paid a fee to post his prehistoric trolling here.

Sorry to interrupt the thread. Carry on.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 26, 2026, 10:55:51 PMDon't be lectured by people who cheer political violence and then claim the moral high ground.

- They laughed and celebrated when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
- They praised and lionized Luigi Mangione.
- They mocked the attempted assassination of President Trump and said the shooter should've been better.
- They never mourned Ashley Babbitt.
- They never mourned Laken Riley.
- They never mourned Jocelyn Nungary.
- They never mourned Iryna Zarutska.

And none of those folks assaulted law enforcement and resisted arrest.
That Mangione guy is a different case.

End sanctuary cities now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kxPanJVL58

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Of 170 US citizens detained by ICE, about 130 were arrested for interfering with or assaulting officers, according to the left-leaning ProPublica.

Trump error rate = 0.0067%.

Obama's error rate = 0.0225%.  I.e. THREE TIMES THE TRUMP ERROR RATE.
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Under Trump, there's been one death for every 18,594 detainees.

Under Obama there was one death for every 14,314 detainees.

Under Trump, the number of American citizens accidentally deported: ZERO.

Under Obama, the number of American citizens accidentally deported: FOUR.
https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/2015123907330683100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2015127988426219777%7Ctwgr%5Ef7cbe5f4be82b47f636f044746971384407b7ed4%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheadlineusa.com%2Fobama-ice-error-rate-3x-trump%2F

https://instagram.com/p/DT_EokEDy4T?igsh=MWFzdWVieHZ0bXZrYw==

Isn't this interesting.

Data analyst Kevin Bass (@kevinnbass) just exposed the pattern nobody in the media wants to admit. After analyzing public databases and media reports on violent confrontations with ICE over the past year, Bass found that just nine counties—each a sanctuary jurisdiction run by Democrat politicians—accounted for 63% of all violent ICE confrontations nationwide.

These nine counties produced twice as many violent incidents as the remaining 3,134 counties combined, and a violent confrontation in one of these jurisdictions was 590 times more likely than in any of the other counties.

The top offenders were plotted on the map and included:
 • Los Angeles County: 25 incidents
 • Chicago (Cook County): 28
 • Minneapolis (Hennepin County): 21
 • New York City: 12
 • San Francisco: 6
 • Portland: 6
 • Seattle: 4
 • Denver: 4
 • Newark: 4

All nine are sanctuary jurisdictions where local officials actively resist federal immigration enforcement.

Bass's conclusion is stark: "These violent confrontations are rare in states and cities where local officials cooperate with law enforcement." In non-sanctuary areas, cooperation leads to calm enforcement. In these nine Democrat-run sanctuary strongholds, resistance breeds violence—against agents, bystanders, protesters, and the public.

This isn't coincidence. It's policy. Sanctuary rules create havens for escalation, doxxing, blockades, and attacks—while the rest of America sees almost none.

Something else I found that white marxists won't reveal.

Under Obama, the ACLU and Migration Policy Institute documented a complete shift toward "non-judicial removals" what they called "speed over fairness."

By 2012, 75% of all deportations bypassed judges entirely**, handled instead by DHS officers acting as both judge and jury. That's not due process that's administrative removal.

> "Only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge... Nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by DHS, sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury."
> — Joanne Lin, *ACLU*, "Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration" (May 1, 2014)

And while we're on facts the Los Angeles Times investigation confirmed that at least 1,480 U.S. citizens were detained by ICE between 2012 and 2018 and later released after proving citizenship.
Many were held for weeks or months before ICE admitted its mistake.
That's not conjecture that's ICE's own data.
It's inconsistent, pretending that abuses only count when your preferred party isn't in power.

Weird how ICE is operating perfectly fine in every other state, but the one with $19 billion in fraud has riots

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 08:34:24 PMI didnt do that. I knew when Charlie Kirk was murdered the left would celebrate it. Im well aware the liberal left are savages who want violence and bloodshed of people they disagree with 

 I never once expected, or called for ANY sympathy. For the same reasons I dont expect my dog Eddie to do algebra.  I dont ask for or expect anything from anyone that I know they are incapable of giving.

 I stopped believing a long time ago that liberal leftists were even capable of empathy. I have watched these people destroy US communities, beat and kill innocent people...even children. Drive into parades and mock children killed in floods.

 I never "cried out in outrage" over Kirk, nor did I ask tyrannical sociopaths for sympathy.

 I observe and I point out. Thats it.

 I expect gas lighting attempts like this one you just did.

 Shooting a man for no reason who is doing nothing more than hosting a legal event isnt the same thing as a law enforcement officers shooting a person who got involved in them carrying out lawful duties while having a gun on him.

 But I dont know how capable any of you are in understanding why those two situations are fundamentally different. And that is terrifying and I hope that we never end up at the mercy of people who are this in capable of empathy and who cannot grasp nuance, context or discern information.

 I appreciate your severe limitations here and I understand that in your head this is only about "sides".  That your grasp of this is not much deeper than "they were upset when we shot one of theirs....now they are mocking us because they shot one of ours!" Like i GET this is the mentality here. And its fucking SCARY.

 There is right and wrong. We have laws and processes. NO ONE on the liberal left understands any of it....and if any do? They are gaslighting and lying than for the sake of this cold civil war.

 Never at any point in any state can anyone...me included...get involved myself in a police confrontation with a gun without being tased or shot.

 The rules we ALL have to follow dont magically change to accommodate angry liberals who hate democracy.

 What law was Charlie Kirk breaking?

 I swear to God we have a massive intelligence gap in the world because if you cant see the different between Charlie Kirk being murdered over speech the tyrants didnt like and a guy committing felonies and resisting arrest with a gun?

 We can't discuss this. You are not equipped to discuss this. You cant understand any of it.

 If Charlie Kirk was out there obstructing law enforcement and had a gun on him and resisted arrest? He would have been shot there as well. And it would still be justified.

 With the way so many of you think in this one dimensional, no nuance way.....like Kirks murder was the same as Pretti....thats a terrifying world you are hoping for. 

 A lot of you are disconnected from reality. Or pretending to be. Either way....its ridiculous, Joe. And dishonest. 

 Be better than this.

Why do you bother attempting to reason with imbeciles? you really think you are going to get somewhere productive with this mong?

Quote from: Shen Li on January 27, 2026, 10:30:36 PMSomething else I found that white marxists won't reveal.

Under Obama, the ACLU and Migration Policy Institute documented a complete shift toward "non-judicial removals" what they called "speed over fairness."

By 2012, 75% of all deportations bypassed judges entirely**, handled instead by DHS officers acting as both judge and jury. That's not due process that's administrative removal.

> "Only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge... Nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by DHS, sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury."
> — Joanne Lin, *ACLU*, "Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration" (May 1, 2014)

And while we're on facts the Los Angeles Times investigation confirmed that at least 1,480 U.S. citizens were detained by ICE between 2012 and 2018 and later released after proving citizenship.
Many were held for weeks or months before ICE admitted its mistake.
That's not conjecture that's ICE's own data.
It's inconsistent, pretending that abuses only count when your preferred party isn't in power.

 Yep. And Obama put them in "cages".

 The facilities during that time were shitty.  Now? They look like a summer camp.

 56 people also died on Obamas deportation watch. Trumps isnt making as many mistakes deporting legal ones as much as Obama oversaw.

 They are hypocrites but we all know its not about the migrants. They dont give any fucks about the migrants.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 11:49:51 PMWhy do you bother attempting to reason with imbeciles? you really think you are going to get somewhere productive with this mong?

 I mean that one seems to like me so I figure eh....give it a shot lol.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 27, 2026, 10:34:21 PMWeird how ICE is operating perfectly fine in every other state, but the one with $19 billion in fraud has riots

 I saw ICE agents at a gas station standing by their vehicle with coffees.

 I nodded and waved and they nodded and waved back.

 And I didnt get shot in the face, go figure.  Oh and one of them was Hispanic even.  Faces covered though.

 Pretty friendly and approachable even for people said to be a "gestapo".   

Quote from: Shen Li on January 27, 2026, 10:28:58 PMIsn't this interesting.

Data analyst Kevin Bass (@kevinnbass) just exposed the pattern nobody in the media wants to admit. After analyzing public databases and media reports on violent confrontations with ICE over the past year, Bass found that just nine counties—each a sanctuary jurisdiction run by Democrat politicians—accounted for 63% of all violent ICE confrontations nationwide.

These nine counties produced twice as many violent incidents as the remaining 3,134 counties combined, and a violent confrontation in one of these jurisdictions was 590 times more likely than in any of the other counties.

The top offenders were plotted on the map and included:
 • Los Angeles County: 25 incidents
 • Chicago (Cook County): 28
 • Minneapolis (Hennepin County): 21
 • New York City: 12
 • San Francisco: 6
 • Portland: 6
 • Seattle: 4
 • Denver: 4
 • Newark: 4

All nine are sanctuary jurisdictions where local officials actively resist federal immigration enforcement.

Bass's conclusion is stark: "These violent confrontations are rare in states and cities where local officials cooperate with law enforcement." In non-sanctuary areas, cooperation leads to calm enforcement. In these nine Democrat-run sanctuary strongholds, resistance breeds violence—against agents, bystanders, protesters, and the public.

This isn't coincidence. It's policy. Sanctuary rules create havens for escalation, doxxing, blockades, and attacks—while the rest of America sees almost none.

The smoking gun.  :good:

Quote from: Dove on January 28, 2026, 12:32:43 AMYep. And Obama put them in "cages".

 The facilities during that time were shitty.  Now? They look like a summer camp.

 56 people also died on Obamas deportation watch. Trumps isnt making as many mistakes deporting legal ones as much as Obama oversaw.

 They are hypocrites but we all know its not about the migrants. They dont give any fucks about the migrants.

Any violence that has occurred between ICE agents carrying out their sworn duties was caused by Democratic regimes obstruction. At the state and local levels.

Alex Pretti was known to federal agents. A week before he assaulted officers and resisted arrest that lead to his death he was involved with another altercation with ICE agents.
https://www.ibtimes.sg/alex-pretti-was-known-feds-he-broke-rib-during-anti-ice-protest-week-before-he-was-shot-killed-83455

Quote from: Oliver the Second on January 28, 2026, 09:45:05 AM

George Floyd would not have assaulted ICE agents. Like most Blacks he probably wanted illegal criminals deported.

Pretti had a physical altercation with ICE a week before he was shot for assaulting agents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Axlx9bZs0

I got this from Linkedin about Alex Pretti.

Quote"At the Minneapolis VA Health Care System, patient safety comes first — and every complaint is taken seriously," said Executive Director Dr. Elena Vasquez.
Now, that statement carries chilling weight. Alex Pretti, 37, a former senior ICU nurse, has been accused by patients' families of deeply disturbing, alleged misconduct toward the most vulnerable.
The claims — ranging from unwanted contact to invasive, predatory behavior — were serious enough to trigger his immediate termination and the involvement of authorities.
As the hospital breaks its silence, one question hangs in the air: how much more is still hidden beneath the surface?

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Quote from: Brent on January 28, 2026, 12:14:55 PMI got this from Linkedin about Alex Pretti.
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 I looked into that and it was false. The last one about Good burning her kids with cigarettes was also false. That one had me hot too.

Quote from: Dove on January 28, 2026, 02:51:27 PMI looked into that and it was false. The last one about Good burning her kids with cigarettes was also false. That one had me hot too.

I never bought the cigarette thing -- nowadays you have to check and triple check everything as AI is getting out of control

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 28, 2026, 03:20:57 PMI never bought the cigarette thing -- nowadays you have to check and triple check everything as AI is getting out of control

 Haha I believed that one. Now im super skeptical of these claims.

 In the past when gnarly shit like that was said about some activist it turned out true so I did fall for that one.

Quote from: Dove on January 28, 2026, 02:51:27 PMI looked into that and it was false. The last one about Good burning her kids with cigarettes was also false. That one had me hot too.

Fox is reporting that the broken rib is FACT!. I havent heard about his work performance tho.

Here are just 12 reasons as to why I support ICE! All of these lives mattered. All were young. All had a future, but that was taken away from them by people who shouldn't have been in our country to begin with!
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Good job Tom. :good:
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Quote from: Dove on January 28, 2026, 02:51:27 PMI looked into that and it was false. The last one about Good burning her kids with cigarettes was also false. That one had me hot too.

I didn't know if it was fake or not. I just saw it and posted it.

Quote from: Brent on January 29, 2026, 12:08:34 PMI didn't know if it was fake or not. I just saw it and posted it.

Oh i know, happens to me too lol.

Quote from: Herman on January 28, 2026, 09:27:55 PMHere are just 12 reasons as to why I support ICE! All of these lives mattered. All were young. All had a future, but that was taken away from them by people who shouldn't have been in our country to begin with!
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the scum on the left will say

a) this represents 0.0001% of all crime and is therefore insignificant (unless it's their child then it's a different matter)

b) But there was a white guy that killed a girl that other time too!!!

C) you don't blame a whole community for the actions of a few


you cannot have a sensible conversation with these cockroaches

This aint satire.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWf7-e9voU

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I don't get how they became this radicaalized either.
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Armed helper is an oxymoron.

No shit. You have deranged progtards attacking their vehicles, what would they do to them and their families if they knew their identities.
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