THeBlueCashew

He needs to be chucked out.

I was relatively strongish as a supporter in 2016, 2020, and even a bit in 2024. I loved the way he shut the borders and put illegals on notice... started negotiations to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, getting rid of woke shit, and fake crony green industry shit. I still do... 

...but the attacks on some of his prior ardent supporters because they disagreed with the manner and rationale of his policies really poisoned my well...particularly when we can easily pull up footage and transcripts of him pre 2015 ridiculing the mentality which has ironically driven his choices into this new term of his.

5-6 fumbled and changing reasons why Iran is an existential threat now, and that's why the time was now to attack unprovoked? Yeah, nah... Trump can go fuck himself on that one. And now the panhandling to NATO and semi aligned nations to sacrifice their military men and women plus the ships they're on in a narrow shipping lane TRUMP lit on fire? Yeah nah, Trump can go fuck himself again on that one. All those nations basically said the same.

Then there's the almost constant EO's to get his shit done. I understand he's got PTSD from a decade of false accusations, activist judges, and treasonous bureaucrats... I've often feel real empathy for the crap he's had to endure and continues to endure, but the US isn't his company. He has to make his best case and not his best iron fist.

Venezuela, Iran, potentially Cuba or even Mexico.... with quips about Greenland? Ok, I did find his Greenland stuff entertaining, but the rest never should have happened or shouldn't happen.

Double tap strikes on 170+ children and rescuers? Fuck Donald Trump.

Saying nothing about Israel pulverizing tens of thousands of Gazan civilians, while illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank divert water, cut down trees, and in some cases murder the lawful residents? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.

Removing armaments stationed in bases throughout the Middle East from reliable partners who just got their infrastructures attacked in retaliation for what the US and Israel did, then giving it to Israel? Taking components out of South Korea and giving it to Israel? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


Continuing to subsidize Israel to the tune of billions per year while US citizens have a lower standard of living? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


There's a whole slew of things we should say fuck Trump for... but if he regains his balls and changes course, I will forgive him but not forget.

He's killing REAL MAGA and turning the US into an even bigger pariah on the international stage where the US's word means nothing and people are sick of it... even former supporters like myself.

Fat Renee is a dumb cunt for shitpost repping my honest assertions that are backed by facts.... but fat people are always dumb cunts...otherwise they'd work out that eating shitty food and doing no exercise makes one a fat cunt.

Elementary, my dear dumb fat cunt.  :s_laugh:

An extremely popular leader who started out making things much better in his own country and then began blitzkrieging all over the globe... I've heard of that before.

However maybe there is an immediate threat requiring that it be done now...

But I've also heard of 'Weapons of mass destruction' before...

Perhaps it's true and perhaps it's not...

But the only thing I know for sure is we'll never know the real reason.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 07:57:46 PMHe needs to be chucked out.

I was relatively strongish as a supporter in 2016, 2020, and even a bit in 2024. I loved the way he shut the borders and put illegals on notice... started negotiations to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, getting rid of woke shit, and fake crony green industry shit. I still do... 

...but the attacks on some of his prior ardent supporters because they disagreed with the manner and rationale of his policies really poisoned my well...particularly when we can easily pull up footage and transcripts of him pre 2015 ridiculing the mentality which has ironically driven his choices into this new term of his.

5-6 fumbled and changing reasons why Iran is an existential threat now, and that's why the time was now to attack unprovoked? Yeah, nah... Trump can go fuck himself on that one. And now the panhandling to NATO and semi aligned nations to sacrifice their military men and women plus the ships they're on in a narrow shipping lane TRUMP lit on fire? Yeah nah, Trump can go fuck himself again on that one. All those nations basically said the same.

Then there's the almost constant EO's to get his shit done. I understand he's got PTSD from a decade of false accusations, activist judges, and treasonous bureaucrats... I've often feel real empathy for the crap he's had to endure and continues to endure, but the US isn't his company. He has to make his best case and not his best iron fist.

Venezuela, Iran, potentially Cuba or even Mexico.... with quips about Greenland? Ok, I did find his Greenland stuff entertaining, but the rest never should have happened or shouldn't happen.

Double tap strikes on 170+ children and rescuers? Fuck Donald Trump.

Saying nothing about Israel pulverizing tens of thousands of Gazan civilians, while illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank divert water, cut down trees, and in some cases murder the lawful residents? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.

Removing armaments stationed in bases throughout the Middle East from reliable partners who just got their infrastructures attacked in retaliation for what the US and Israel did, then giving it to Israel? Taking components out of South Korea and giving it to Israel? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


Continuing to subsidize Israel to the tune of billions per year while US citizens have a lower standard of living? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


There's a whole slew of things we should say fuck Trump for... but if he regains his balls and changes course, I will forgive him but not forget.

He's killing REAL MAGA and turning the US into an even bigger pariah on the international stage where the US's word means nothing and people are sick of it... even former supporters like myself.

I'm still giving the Persians a minute. We don't have a good picture on what's happening on the ground as far as the people's resistance to the regime at this point.

I'm not liking that a Marine Brigade is on the way there now, and I'm afraid we're gonna see boots on the ground on Kharg Island. I don't want to see that and I'm hoping we see some movement from the anti-regime Persians soon.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 07:57:46 PMHe needs to be chucked out.

I was relatively strongish as a supporter in 2016, 2020, and even a bit in 2024. I loved the way he shut the borders and put illegals on notice... started negotiations to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, getting rid of woke shit, and fake crony green industry shit. I still do... 

...but the attacks on some of his prior ardent supporters because they disagreed with the manner and rationale of his policies really poisoned my well...particularly when we can easily pull up footage and transcripts of him pre 2015 ridiculing the mentality which has ironically driven his choices into this new term of his.

5-6 fumbled and changing reasons why Iran is an existential threat now, and that's why the time was now to attack unprovoked? Yeah, nah... Trump can go fuck himself on that one. And now the panhandling to NATO and semi aligned nations to sacrifice their military men and women plus the ships they're on in a narrow shipping lane TRUMP lit on fire? Yeah nah, Trump can go fuck himself again on that one. All those nations basically said the same.

Then there's the almost constant EO's to get his shit done. I understand he's got PTSD from a decade of false accusations, activist judges, and treasonous bureaucrats... I've often feel real empathy for the crap he's had to endure and continues to endure, but the US isn't his company. He has to make his best case and not his best iron fist.

Venezuela, Iran, potentially Cuba or even Mexico.... with quips about Greenland? Ok, I did find his Greenland stuff entertaining, but the rest never should have happened or shouldn't happen.

Double tap strikes on 170+ children and rescuers? Fuck Donald Trump.

Saying nothing about Israel pulverizing tens of thousands of Gazan civilians, while illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank divert water, cut down trees, and in some cases murder the lawful residents? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.

Removing armaments stationed in bases throughout the Middle East from reliable partners who just got their infrastructures attacked in retaliation for what the US and Israel did, then giving it to Israel? Taking components out of South Korea and giving it to Israel? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


Continuing to subsidize Israel to the tune of billions per year while US citizens have a lower standard of living? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


There's a whole slew of things we should say fuck Trump for... but if he regains his balls and changes course, I will forgive him but not forget.

He's killing REAL MAGA and turning the US into an even bigger pariah on the international stage where the US's word means nothing and people are sick of it... even former supporters like myself.

Glad I could help!  :crampe:

I'll say this, if I lived in a shitty jakbooted country like Australia, I'd be more worried about the cops kicking in my door.

Trump is giving Iran the ass kicking I've begged for some 40+ years. We really owe them a LOT!!!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on March 18, 2026, 09:18:14 PMGlad I could help!  :crampe:

I'll say this, if I lived in a shitty jakbooted country like Australia, I'd be more worried about the cops kicking in my door.

Trump is giving Iran the ass kicking I've begged for some 40+ years. We really owe them a LOT!!!!!

Yeah... but you're a moron... so mileage may vary.  :popcorn:

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 09:09:59 PMI'm still giving the Persians a minute. We don't have a good picture on what's happening on the ground as far as the people's resistance to the regime at this point.

I'm not liking that a Marine Brigade is on the way there now, and I'm afraid we're gonna see boots on the ground on Kharg Island. I don't want to see that and I'm hoping we see some movement from the anti-regime Persians soon.

Boots on the ground is the SOP. Doesn't matter if they say it isn't. It is... and unless something changes, the West is committed to another forever unwinnable war at the behest of its master, Israel.

As for the anti-regime movement... they torpedoed that when they attacked civilian infrastructure unprovoked. The US went to war for a couple of skyscrapers that were hit and one that was untouched... and that was only 3-4k people..   despite Iraq having no WMD's. Hundreds of thousands of people died..

Let's face it. The West is Israel's hypnotically engineered sugar daddy and Karen, and Israel will put a bullet in Karen's head the first moment it's safe for them to do so.

You know it's true... so speak up like a man or remain a mouse....

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 09:45:09 PMBoots on the ground is the SOP. Doesn't matter if they say it isn't. It is... and unless something changes, the West is committed to another forever unwinnable war at the behest of its master, Israel.

As for the anti-regime movement... they torpedoed that when they attacked civilian infrastructure unprovoked. The US went to war for a couple of skyscrapers that were hit and one that was untouched... and that was only 3-4k people..   despite Iraq having no WMD's. Hundreds of thousands of people died..

Let's face it. The West is Israel's hypnotically engineered sugar daddy and Karen, and Israel will put a bullet in Karen's head the first moment it's safe for them to do so.

You know it's true... so speak up like a man or remain a mouse....

I disagree.  I don't think Trump sucks Jew cock.  Sorry. 

The fact is the Iranian Jihadis have given the US any number of "casus bellis" over the years, starting with the embassy fiasco in 1979.  Reagan should have gone in after all those Marines were blown up in Lebanon in the early 80s.  Jihadis are evil subhuman animals on the same level as pedophiles and should be exterminated wherever they are found.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:00:43 PMI disagree.  I don't think Trump sucks Jew cock.  Sorry. 

The fact is the Iranian Jihadis have given the US any number of "casus bellis" over the years, starting with the embassy fiasco in 1979.  Reagan should have gone in after all those Marines were blown up in Lebanon in the early 80s.  Jihadis are evil subhuman animals on the same level as pedophiles and should be exterminated wherever they are found.

 Had we took out the Islamic occupation in Iran to begin with, we would have crippled and dealt with Islam much faster.

 Leaving them standing was lollygagging with an enemy that will never back off.

 The whole anti Isreal stuff is so bizzare to me i dont even know how to counter it. It's like some sort of unhinged psyop to me and im blaming Islamic subversion for it lol 

I'm not a fan of boots on the ground at all. Especially when it's declared as some kind of "nation building" effort. Fuck building Iran

bomb the fuck out of and let them rebuild their own fucking shithole

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:11:34 PMI'm not a fan of boots on the ground at all. Especially when it's declared as some kind of "nation building" effort. Fuck building Iran

bomb the fuck out of and let them rebuild their own fucking shithole

 Im in favor of whatever gets it done.

 We have the most powerful and skilled military on earth and the best Commander of it that I've seen in my lifetime 

 And I voted for him. So im trusting it.

 I dont like boots on the ground war either but I also dont like the IRGC existing. I dont like what Iran was turned into.

 Having a secular democracy in these middle east is beneficial for everyone. So after we exterminate this regime, they better make us proud that we helped them.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:06:00 PMHad we took out the Islamic occupation in Iran to begin with, we would have crippled and dealt with Islam much faster.



 The whole anti Isreal stuff is so bizzare to me i dont even know how to counter it. It's like some sort of unhinged psyop to me and im blaming Islamic subversion for it lol 

It's so preposterous on it's face it simply cannot be countered to any quantifiable degree. It's like arguing that Darth Vader, luke sky-walker and the Millennium falcon really exist. it's cute for the first 15 seconds of a debate but when you begin to realize that your opponent really really believes this nonsense it kinda gets terrifying -- as in a --- I sure hope no one that thinks like you do lives within a 100 miles of my home.

To say that one of the tiniest nations on the planet  -- people who have gone through generation after generation of persecution and displacement at the hands of foreign invaders are somehow in control of EVERYTHING is quite fucking laughable on it's face

but then again, so is believing that we all live on a floating pizza pie

I mean, for what purpose would any entity, public or private, invest BILLIONS into doctoring photos, videos, astronaut testimony etc etc etc

hell, you can look up into the sky and see with your own eyes spherical shaped objects -- but earth? the only known habitat for life is a fucking Frisbee? LMAO -- I dunno where these people get this shit  :crampe:

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:00:43 PMI disagree.  I don't think Trump sucks Jew cock.  Sorry. 

The fact is the Iranian Jihadis have given the US any number of "casus bellis" over the years, starting with the embassy fiasco in 1979.  Reagan should have gone in after all those Marines were blown up in Lebanon in the early 80s.  Jihadis are evil subhuman animals on the same level as pedophiles and should be exterminated wherever they are found.

You fail to remember what the US did to Iran and numerous other nations in the ME and South America in the 60's and 70's. Why is that... convenience?

And you also fail to remember what Israel did to the USS Liberty in the 60's ostensibly to draw it into a conflict which failed but has been reanimated in 2025-2026.

Why is that? That your memory is so short circuited, missing, or otherwise,

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:19:23 PMIm in favor of whatever gets it done.

 We have the most powerful and skilled military on earth and the best Commander of it that I've seen in my lifetime 

 And I voted for him. So im trusting it.

 I dont like boots on the ground war either but I also dont like the IRGC existing. I dont like what Iran was turned into.

 Having a secular democracy in these middle east is beneficial for everyone. So after we exterminate this regime, they better make us proud that we helped them.

Not me

no boots on the ground. Drones missiles, nukes.. whatever, but when soldiers start rolling in on the ground and begin to die he loses my support entirely

Sorry.. Ive seen this bullshit shitshow play out too many times to sign on again. I don't care who's in charge

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:19:29 PMIt's so preposterous on it's face it simply cannot be countered to any quantifiable degree. It's like arguing that Darth Vader, luke sky-walker and the Millennium falcon really exist. it's cute for the first 15 seconds of a debate but when you begin to realize that your opponent really really believes this nonsense it kinda gets terrifying -- as in a --- I sure hope no one that thinks like you do lives within a 100 miles of my home.

To say that one of the tiniest nations on the planet  -- people who have gone through generation after generation of persecution and displacement at the hands of foreign invaders are somehow in control of EVERYTHING is quite fucking laughable on it's face

but then again, so is believing that we all live on a floating pizza pie

I mean, for what purpose would any entity, public or private, invest BILLIONS into doctoring photos, videos, astronaut testimony etc etc etc

hell, you can look up into the sky and see with your own eyes spherical shaped objects -- but earth? the only known habitat for life is a fucking Frisbee? LMAO -- I dunno where these people get this shit  :crampe:

Are you on drugs? Literally speaking;I'm earnestly asking. 

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:21:43 PMAre you on drugs? Literally speaking;I'm earnestly asking. 

I don't do drugs

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:19:29 PMIt's so preposterous on it's face it simply cannot be countered to any quantifiable degree. It's like arguing that Darth Vader, luke sky-walker and the Millennium falcon really exist. it's cute for the first 15 seconds of a debate but when you begin to realize that your opponent really really believes this nonsense it kinda gets terrifying -- as in a --- I sure hope no one that thinks like you do lives within a 100 miles of my home.

To say that one of the tiniest nations on the planet  -- people who have gone through generation after generation of persecution and displacement at the hands of foreign invaders are somehow in control of EVERYTHING is quite fucking laughable on it's face

but then again, so is believing that we all live on a floating pizza pie

I mean, for what purpose would any entity, public or private, invest BILLIONS into doctoring photos, videos, astronaut testimony etc etc etc

hell, you can look up into the sky and see with your own eyes spherical shaped objects -- but earth? the only known habitat for life is a fucking Frisbee? LMAO -- I dunno where these people get this shit  :crampe:

The flat earth shit is wild lol.

And who even cares?! What changes if we find out we are on some floating disc with an ice wall and firmament holding back space waters?

We still gotta pay taxes and go to work. Nothing changes.  :facepalm:

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:19:42 PMYou fail to remember what the US did to Iran and numerous other nations in the ME and South America in the 60's and 70's. Why is that... convenience?

And you also fail to remember what Israel did to the USS Liberty in the 60's ostensibly to draw it into a conflict which failed but has been reanimated in 2025-2026.

Why is that? That your memory is so short circuited, missing, or otherwise,

If memory serves Trump disliked Iran and felt we should bomb them when he was in his early thirties.

Was he under the mind control of the evil Jew back then too?

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:06:00 PMHad we took out the Islamic occupation in Iran to begin with, we would have crippled and dealt with Islam much faster.

 Leaving them standing was lollygagging with an enemy that will never back off.

 The whole anti Isreal stuff is so bizzare to me i dont even know how to counter it. It's like some sort of unhinged psyop to me and im blaming Islamic subversion for it lol 

Had we took out the Islamist regime in Tehran back in the 80s, perhaps the whole Al Queda 9/11 Iraq and Afghanistan shit wouldn't have happened. 

Think on that.

Trump doing this now, finally, will save a lot of difficulties down the road for all of us.  Just sayin'.

Quotethe attacks on some of his prior ardent supporters because they disagreed with the manner and rationale of his policies really poisoned my well

This is why I don't support universal suffrage, especially for whites. Normal people(Asians) care about policy and results. whites put personality ahead of substance.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:24:49 PMHad we took out the Islamist regime in Tehran back in the 80s, perhaps the whole Al Queda 9/11 Iraq and Afghanistan shit wouldn't have happened. 

Think on that.

Trump doing this now, finally, will save a lot of difficulties down the road for all of us.  Just sayin'.

Al Q is Sunni. They hate Shia Iran.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:22:44 PMThe flat earth shit is wild lol.

And who even cares?! What changes if we find out we are on some floating disc with an ice wall and firmament holding back space waters?

We still gotta pay taxes and go to work. Nothing changes.  :facepalm:

that's exactly what I'm saying.

it's fucking stupid to even argue about. So let's just say for the sake of a pointless argument that the curtain is lifted and boom we all suddenly are shown irrefutable evidence that the earth is indeed flat. Okay... aaaaaaand? What's going to change?

absolutely nothing.

and that's the whole point. our government, the elites -- whomever are not going to go through the trouble to conceal something that irrelevant for DECADES -- there is ZERO R.O.I on a lie like that  -- and where there is no ROI there is no effort nor financial backing to continue with the facade.

So you can show me all the fancy little ice wall stories, pictures doctored by some clown in the antarctic, your sea line calculator.. the stupid horizon theory.. etc etc.... once you cannot breach the most basic hurdle in logic you've lost me.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:21:12 PMNot me

no boots on the ground. Drones missiles, nukes.. whatever, but when soldiers start rolling in on the ground and begin to die he loses my support entirely

Sorry.. Ive seen this bullshit shitshow play out too many times to sign on again. I don't care who's in charge

I get it. But had we taken this regime out 20 years ago it would have played out differently.

Im still disgusted how we pulled out of Afghanistan and gave our equipment to our enemies.

That's the thing about the US, we always have election cycles and we are driving this ship. We elect different leaders who have different purposes and ways of handling business and im trusting the one we have in there now.

He has been very consistent on his position on Iran. He has had a good understanding of it for a long time.

Of course I understand why so many people have a bad taste in their mouth when it comes to war in the middle east.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:19:42 PMYou fail to remember what the US did to Iran and numerous other nations in the ME and South America in the 60's and 70's. Why is that... convenience?

And you also fail to remember what Israel did to the USS Liberty in the 60's ostensibly to draw it into a conflict which failed but has been reanimated in 2025-2026.

Why is that? That your memory is so short circuited, missing, or otherwise,

I agree that taking out Mosadeg or whatever and installing the Shah way the fuck back before I was even born was probably not a Kosher thing to do.

I'm over the Liberty thing. If it was an operation to draw us into a war, it  failed.  I am not inclined to believe that the Israelis are directing the foreign policy of the US.  There are shared goals to be sure.  That how alliances work.

What has any of that got to do with the present situation?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:28:15 PMthat's exactly what I'm saying.

it's fucking stupid to even argue about. So let's just say for the sake of a pointless argument that the curtain is lifted and boom we all suddenly are shown irrefutable evidence that the earth is indeed flat. Okay... aaaaaaand? What's going to change?

absolutely nothing.

and that's the whole point. our government, the elites -- whomever are not going to go through the trouble to conceal something that irrelevant for DECADES -- there is ZERO R.O.I on a lie like that  -- and where there is no ROI there is no effort nor financial backing to continue with the facade.

So you can show me all the fancy little ice wall stories, pictures doctored by some clown in the antarctic, your sea line calculator.. the stupid horizon theory.. etc etc.... once you cannot breach the most basic hurdle in logic you've lost me.

Back in Canada people are dying because they can't get medical care. Something like 10% of families rely on food banks. There is a critical housing shortage because of immigration invasion.

The shape of the globe doesn't even register as a thought never mind a concern for people back in Canada.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:21:12 PMNot me

no boots on the ground. Drones missiles, nukes.. whatever, but when soldiers start rolling in on the ground and begin to die he loses my support entirely

Sorry.. Ive seen this bullshit shitshow play out too many times to sign on again. I don't care who's in charge

You would kill potentially millions of innocent non combatants with nukes, some of which want a regime change, just to save a pittance of US soldiers who signed up for bloodshed or supporting roles in it?

Are you fucking insane?

And has it not dawned on you that the ONLY nation to use a fissable weapon on another was the US at the tail end of WW2, and for no other reason except for a satanic one, so if the US does it again or allows Israel to do it, M.A D. unravels and first in best nuclear dressed prevails. India and Pakistan can go at until China ends one or both of them, the US steps in first or last along with Russia, and who the fuck cares about Europe anymore...but France, Germany, England might settle old scores.... in any viable place left that Russia didn't first strike.... then consider South Africa's missing suitcase nukes and how nobody will either say where they went or how.

This is a catastrophic humanity ending shit show in the making and you've got pom pom's and a skirt on for it 

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:30:31 PMI get it. But had we taken this regime out 20 years ago it would have played out differently.

Im still disgusted how we pulled out of Afghanistan and gave our equipment to our enemies.

That's the thing about the US, we always have election cycles and we are driving this ship. We elect different leaders who have different purposes and ways of handling business and im trusting the one we have in there now.

He has been very consistent on his position on Iran. He has had a good understanding of it for a long time.

Of course I understand why so many people have a bad taste in their mouth when it comes to war in the middle east.

you're right. Had we done that things might be different today

but In my mind we, as a society have exhausted that angle and I'm just not willing to throw away any more young lives on the premise that "this time it will be different" -- I don't believe that. within 10 months Trump will be hamstrung by a once again divided government with a bunch of crazies influencing outcomes

nope. no american lives on the ground and there isn't a soul on earth, trump himself included, that can convince me otherwise. He puts boots on the ground I don't care if it's Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul on the ticket for the republican party for 2028 -- I'm sitting it out.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:27:30 PMAl Q is Sunni. They hate Shia Iran.

Islam is Islam.  Their internecine disagreements mean nothing when both sides of the Shia/Sunni schism have the same goal of Islaming the whole world.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:32:29 PMI agree that taking out Mosadeg or whatever and installing the Shah way the fuck back before I was even born was probably not a Kosher thing to do.

I'm over the Liberty thing. If it was an operation to draw us into a war, it  failed.  I am not inclined to believe that the Israelis are directing the foreign policy of the US.  There are shared goals to be sure.  That how alliances work.

What has any of that got to do with the present situation?

Because the nation of Istael on the leadership level never stopped and it is persistent in its long goals. By hook or crook, it demands.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:28:15 PMthat's exactly what I'm saying.

it's fucking stupid to even argue about. So let's just say for the sake of a pointless argument that the curtain is lifted and boom we all suddenly are shown irrefutable evidence that the earth is indeed flat. Okay... aaaaaaand? What's going to change?

absolutely nothing.

and that's the whole point. our government, the elites -- whomever are not going to go through the trouble to conceal something that irrelevant for DECADES -- there is ZERO R.O.I on a lie like that  -- and where there is no ROI there is no effort nor financial backing to continue with the facade.

So you can show me all the fancy little ice wall stories, pictures doctored by some clown in the antarctic, your sea line calculator.. the stupid horizon theory.. etc etc.... once you cannot breach the most basic hurdle in logic you've lost me.

Im jealous of the flat earthers. You never met anyone who kinda believeit's, right? These people are COMMITTED to this. Passionate about it.

And they have A LOT of time to spend thinking about it, discussing it, and creating entire maps of it.

Some denominations believe that beyond the ice wall, there are more continents and oceans. And animals we haven't seen. Of course there are maps of the lands beyond the ice wall.

They fascinate and exhaust me lol.

But yep I have asked "So what does this change if its true?" Because absolutely nothing changes. We still have to live here. We can't DO anything. We have no choice but to just keep living our lives. Its probably best we dont know because then people would panick over it and buy all the toilet paper again lol.

Like if we all found out we really were being controlled and ran by some cabal of elite reptilian jews....I suppose we could do something with that information. That might shake things up for us. We could find ways to act upon that.

But the earth being flat? Outer space being some giant, horrific ocean? We can't do fuck all about that lol.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:33:53 PMYou would kill potentially millions of innocent non combatants with nukes, some of which want a regime change, just to save a pittance of US soldiers who signed up for bloodshed or supporting roles in it?

Are you fucking insane?

And has it not dawned on you that the ONLY nation to use a fissable weapon on another was the US at the tail end of WW2, and for no other reason except for a satanic one, so if the US does it again or allows Israel to do it, M.A D. unravels and first in best nuclear dressed prevails. India and Pakistan can go at until China ends one or both of them, the US steps in first or last along with Russia, and who the fuck cares about Europe anymore...but France, Germany, England might settle old scores.... in any viable place left that Russia didn't first strike.... then consider South Africa's missing suitcase nukes and how nobody will either say where they went or how.

This is a catastrophic humanity ending shit show in the making and you've got pom pom's and a skirt on for it 

Let me be clear with you. I don't give a fuck about any of them. Not a single one.

ONE American life (provided it's a conservative) is worth more to me than the entirety of Iran and the Gaza strip combined. I've heard their fucking sob story all too many times being used as a Trojan horse to leverage the average American bleeding heart only to stab cut a hole in that very same heart from the inside out

sorry man.. but zero fucks to give.

I don't have a bleeding heart. I don't give a fuck about them, their kids, their dogs, their cats.. not a single thing -- they could all die tomorrow and I wouldn't give two fucks.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:24:49 PMHad we took out the Islamist regime in Tehran back in the 80s, perhaps the whole Al Queda 9/11 Iraq and Afghanistan shit wouldn't have happened. 

Think on that.

Trump doing this now, finally, will save a lot of difficulties down the road for all of us.  Just sayin'.

No for sure....I agree completely. I just didnt get schooled or informed as much on this until 9/11. I was 20 years old and a brand new voter.

So thats my point of reference I guess. But you're correct. We should have handled this a long time ago.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:38:49 PMIm jealous of the flat earthers. You never met anyone who kinda believeit's, right? These people are COMMITTED to this. Passionate about it.

And they have A LOT of time to spend thinking about it, discussing it, and creating entire maps of it.

Some denominations believe that beyond the ice wall, there are more continents and oceans. And animals we haven't seen. Of course there are maps of the lands beyond the ice wall.

They fascinate and exhaust me lol.

But yep I have asked "So what does this change if its true?" Because absolutely nothing changes. We still have to live here. We can't DO anything. We have no choice but to just keep living our lives. Its probably best we dont know because then people would panick over it and buy all the toilet paper again lol.

Like if we all found out we really were being controlled and ran by some cabal of elite reptilian jews....I suppose we could do something with that information. That might shake things up for us. We could find ways to act upon that.

But the earth being flat? Outer space being some giant, horrific ocean? We can't do fuck all about that lol.

yeah I know.. they have stupid little conventions too

they're fucking retards

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:26:24 PMThis is why I don't support universal suffrage, especially for whites. Normal people(Asians) care about policy and results. whites put personality ahead of substance.

I think that to be allowed to vote you need to be a tax payer AND pass competency tests showing you understand how the government works and that you understand the policies being presented and the impact they will have.

So yes every election cycle, be tested and get a certificate or something that shows you can vote.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:37:25 PMIslam is Islam.  Their internecine disagreements mean nothing when both sides of the Shia/Sunni schism have the same goal of Islaming the whole world.

Shiites will never work with Sunnis. Sunni nations like those of the Gulf would rather offer tacit support to Israel than back Shia Iran.

I think the point a lot of people miss, frood included, when they declare that the US is the only nation to use nukes on it's enemy is that someone like me has no shame in that fact... and? Am I supposed to feel bad or something?

I don't give a fuck. Honestly

in fact, I don't give a fuck if they use them again.

Just like I don't give a fuck that the original settlers conquered the lands that now form the Americas. I live here now, quite comfortably, so yeah, I'm pretty happy they did.

And to be even more direct.. I really don't give a shit if the US decides to use a nuke in a show of force manner.. like "you see, this could happen to you"

so what? I don't care.

I pay my government to preserve my way of life and I quite honestly do not care how high or low on the morality spectrum they have to go to achieve that objective. Nor would I be expecting china or russia to feel any different about me. The world is an ugly place. Eat or be eaten

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:44:33 PMI think that to be allowed to vote you need to be a tax payer AND pass competency tests showing you understand how the government works and that you understand the policies being presented and the impact they will have.

So yes every election cycle, be tested and get a certificate or something that shows you can vote.

Absofuckinglutely!!

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:48:42 PMShiites will never work with Sunnis. Sunni nations like those of the Gulf would rather offer tacit support to Israel than back Shia Iran.

Islam is like the democrat party

Once there is no one left to hate they will then find fractions among themselves to hate and strike war with

these are animals -- sub human filth that cannot be reasoned with

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:40:57 PMLet me be clear with you. I don't give a fuck about any of them. Not a single one.

ONE American life (provided it's a conservative) is worth more to me than the entirety of Iran and the Gaza strip combined. I've heard their fucking sob story all too many times being used as a Trojan horse to leverage the average American bleeding heart only to stab cut a hole in that very same heart from the inside out

sorry man.. but zero fucks to give.

I don't have a bleeding heart. I don't give a fuck about them, their kids, their dogs, their cats.. not a single thing -- they could all die tomorrow and I wouldn't give two fucks.

You're a legitimate piece of shit if you really believe all that which you've just said. I can't be a part of this site anymore if that's the case. You've lost your empathy, compassion... your very humanity.

I expect those sort of unhinged shitposts from the likes of Lokmar, who let's face it, is battling his inner gay self demons... but from you? You're into software yet can't do simple math.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:40:57 PMLet me be clear with you. I don't give a fuck about any of them. Not a single one.

ONE American life (provided it's a conservative) is worth more to me than the entirety of Iran and the Gaza strip combined. I've heard their fucking sob story all too many times being used as a Trojan horse to leverage the average American bleeding heart only to stab cut a hole in that very same heart from the inside out

sorry man.. but zero fucks to give.

I don't have a bleeding heart. I don't give a fuck about them, their kids, their dogs, their cats.. not a single thing -- they could all die tomorrow and I wouldn't give two fucks.

This is what they've done to Americans. Just one example, mind you. And they'll continue murdering Americans and plotting terror attacks as long as they are standing.

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Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:48:54 PMI think the point a lot of people miss, frood included, when they declare that the US is the only nation to use nukes on it's enemy is that someone like me has no shame in that fact... and? Am I supposed to feel bad or something?

I don't give a fuck. Honestly

in fact, I don't give a fuck if they use them again.

Just like I don't give a fuck that the original settlers conquered the lands that now form the Americas. I live here now, quite comfortably, so yeah, I'm pretty happy they did.

And to be even more direct.. I really don't give a shit if the US decides to use a nuke in a show of force manner.. like "you see, this could happen to you"

so what? I don't care.

I pay my government to preserve my way of life and I quite honestly do not care how high or low on the morality spectrum they have to go to achieve that objective. Nor would I be expecting china or russia to feel any different about me. The world is an ugly place. Eat or be eaten

Does anybody think Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy would not have used the atom bomb if they had it first. Same goes for Stalin's Soviet Union and the Imperial Japs.

The US was first across the nuclear line.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 10:44:33 PMI think that to be allowed to vote you need to be a tax payer AND pass competency tests showing you understand how the government works and that you understand the policies being presented and the impact they will have.

So yes every election cycle, be tested and get a certificate or something that shows you can vote.

So those with a public high school diploma or GED would be disqualified automatically?

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:37:36 PMBecause the nation of Istael on the leadership level never stopped and it is persistent in its long goals. By hook or crook, it demands.

OK. 

Did I ever tell you how when white people escaped from the Gene Labs at Gobekli Tepe, the Annunaki tasked the Jews with hunting them all down and eliminating them?  Cool story.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:48:42 PMShiites will never work with Sunnis. Sunni nations like those of the Gulf would rather offer tacit support to Israel than back Shia Iran.

Hamas aren't Shia, but they're supported by Iran.  Hezbollah aren't Shia, but they are supported by Iran.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:52:14 PMDoes anybody think Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy would not have used the atom bomb if they had it first. Same goes for Stalin's Soviet Union and the Imperial Japs.

The US was first across the nuclear line.

So it makes it right? Japan wasn't a threat any further when they used the A bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It was purely a demonic inspired science experiment on non combatants to see how they immediately and slowly died.... as well as a flex by the US.

Why are you saying the US was better than the Germans because they did it first? The Germans didn't do it at all. They probably would have... but they didn't/couldn't at the time. Either or, Germany didn't use atomic weapons on non combatants BUT the US did!

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:50:28 PMYou're a legitimate piece of shit if you really believe all that which you've just said. I can't be a part of this site anymore if that's the case. You've lost your empathy, compassion... your very humanity.

I expect those sort of unhinged shitposts from the likes of Lokmar, who let's face it, is battling his inner gay self demons... but from you? You're into software yet can't do simple math.

If memory serves you've one of the very same ones I couldn't convince to extend a small measure of that same empathy you're all too willing to pontificate about now to someone who crossed our border illegally but has remained a productive member of society of upwards of 10 years?

THAT person deserved mercy. Someone jackassasso subscribing to the same playbook that produces bloodshed and mayhem all across the globe does not.

So the father of four has to up and go and probably die a slow and painful death in his country of origin despite being a good person at heart, causing no trouble and loving this country simply because he entered this country illegally 15 years ago but I'm supposed to weep over some kid, who weeks following Oct 7th was dancing in the street yelling Allah Akbar because he got his face blown off in a retaliatory strike? that aint happening

and now you're melting like a fully soaked pussy over some fucking cockroaches on the other side of the world who would slit your throat in an instant if given the opportunity?

You gotta be kidding me man... who the fuck shot you up with 500 ccs of estrogen and what happened to the old Frood?

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 10:56:45 PMHamas aren't Shia, but they're supported by Iran.  Hezbollah aren't Shia, but they are supported by Iran.

They are part of the Axis of Resistance. They are not national governments and also get support from North Korea and before Venezuela.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:59:04 PMIf memory serves you've one of the very same ones I couldn't convince to extend a small measure of that same empathy you're all too willing to pontificate about now to someone who crossed our border illegally but has remained a productive member of society of upwards of 10 years?

THAT person deserved mercy. Someone jackassasso subscribing to the same playbook that produces bloodshed and mayhem all across the globe does not.

So the father of four has to up and go and probably die a slow and painful death in his country of origin despite being a good person at heart, causing no trouble and loving this country simply because he entered this country illegally 15 years ago but I'm supposed to weep over some kid, who weeks following Oct 7th was dancing in the street yelling Allah Akbar because he got his face blown off in a retaliatory strike?

and now you're melting like a fully soaked pussy over some fucking cockroaches on the other side of the world who would slit your throat in an instant if given the opportunity?

You gotta be kidding me man... who the fuck shot you up with 500 ccs of estrogen and what happened to the old Frood?

You sneak across a border in order to game the system and live illegally, you broke a major law. Doesn't matter if you hold down a cash in hand job for decades or buy some dodgy SS numbers. You are a criminal. You never STOPPED being a criminal. Criminals with intent who hide under the radar are still crims.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:52:38 PMSo those with a public high school diploma or GED would be disqualified automatically?

That's not what Dove said.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:52:14 PMDoes anybody think Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy would not have used the atom bomb if they had it first. Same goes for Stalin's Soviet Union and the Imperial Japs.

The US was first across the nuclear line.

exactly -- anyone who had gotten the bomb first would have used to first. So I laugh when someone tries to run that emotional trip on me. it falls on deaf ears.

Again, the WORLD.. in it's entirety is a evil and dark place. ANd however my government chooses to keep me and the rest of the country safe from the savages that would undoubtedly seek to eliminate us for one reason or another is A OK with me.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:52:38 PMSo those with a public high school diploma or GED would be disqualified automatically?

Oh no, absolutely not. Whether someone graduated from public high school doesn't matter.

Just so long as they can show they know how our government works. And what policies they are actually voting for.

If we did it like this, propaganda and information wars wouldnt be so potent and nonstop as they are.

We have voting age adults who dont even understand "United States".  They want the federal government doing everything 

They want universal health care AND open borders. And they dont even think we should work to lower prices first at least...they really think the billionaires are gonna hang around and pay for it.

Politics are unhinged right now. Socail media is like gasoline on a fire.

Remember people saying voted ID laws were racists because black people dont have ID and dont understand how to get it?  Now its married women wont be able to vote with the SAVE Act.

We need people to understand what they are voting for and why. At least understand how our government works.

When everyone voted for Whitmer again....after her covid reign of tyranny because they believe Dixon was gonna take office and outlaw abortion?  It just KILLED me.

The governor cannot do that. That isnt within the scope of power for a governor. We have legislators.

So Whitmer won due to the ignorance of Michigan voters and its KNOWN and taken advantage of that we have voters who just dont know better.

I actually would have ZERO problem if we offered civics classes and government classes and people could learn and pass a competency test. Its a better use of tax dollars than a lot of other absolute shit we are funding. We would have a more informed voter and as a result..a better ran country.

 You could be a high school drop out. As long as you can show you understand how our government works and what policies will do.....get it. Get your certificate and get voting.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 10:58:35 PMSo it makes it right? Japan wasn't a threat any further when they used the A bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It was purely a demonic inspired science experiment on non combatants to see how they immediately and slowly died.... as well as a flex by the US.

Why are you saying the US was better than the Germans because they did it first? The Germans didn't do it at all. They probably would have... but they didn't/couldn't at the time. Either or, Germany didn't use atomic weapons on non combatants BUT the US did!

Personally, I'm thankful for the bombs that ended WWII. My father was on a troop transport heading to Japan in August of 1945 and would have been among the first waves of the gathering invasion force. Based on the Battle of Okinawa, projected casualties to take the Nip home islands 1-2 million dead and wounded.

I celebrate every Hiroshima day because all the Nips that got fried to burnt chromosomes there and at Nagasaki weren't worth one single drop of precious American blood ... especially my dad's.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 11:03:27 PMThat's not what Dove said.

That's what I said. People who are taught bs history are doomed to repeat it.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:05:20 PMThat's what I said. People who are taught bs history are doomed to repeat it.

So you decided to put words in her mouth she didn't say.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 18, 2026, 10:52:14 PMDoes anybody think Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy would not have used the atom bomb if they had it first. Same goes for Stalin's Soviet Union and the Imperial Japs.

The US was first across the nuclear line.

 We ended WW2 and as an American I dont apologize for that. At all.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:05:07 PMPersonally, I'm thankful for the bombs that ended WWII. My father was on a troop transport heading to Japan in August of 1945 and would have been among the first waves of the gathering invasion force. Based on the Battle of Okinawa, projected casualties to take the Nip home islands 1-2 million dead and wounded.

I celebrate every Hiroshima day because all the Nips that got fried to burnt chromosomes there and at Nagasaki weren't worth one single drop of precious American blood ... especially my dad's.

My one grandpa was a POW in the Philippines... he barely survived and was never the same again. My other was trained as a B17 pilot but didn't see action because the war ended before he needed to be deployed.

So what?

The time to stand up to unethical or immoral actions is always in the now....and you supposed Christians are doing a bang up job making yourselves into hypocrites on that score.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:03:20 PMYou sneak across a border in order to game the system and live illegally, you broke a major law. Doesn't matter if you hold down a cash in hand job for decades or buy some dodgy SS numbers. You are a criminal. You never STOPPED being a criminal. Criminals with intent who hide under the radar are still crims.

And Muslims who are true believers "never stopped" believing YOU and I should die if we don't submit to the will of Allah. They just bury that belief as they are instructed to do so since they're just in no position to enforce such a mandate with violence here like they are in their own shitholes.

Pick up a Koran sometime and read it. I did. You will find the experience very enlightening and perhaps understand why, no matter how much you'd like to view these people as a kind and benevolent fellow tribe of the human race they are not. Or at least, won't be when the opportune time for them arrives. 

I have a heart has cold as ice and as hard as stone in this regard for a reason brah. Because I know, when the chips are down, that Muslim, no matter how close we are (and I have plenty of Muslim friends) will sell me up the river in a heartbeat if the time were to come. And in many respects, I cannot blame him, his holy book tells him to do just that. So at the end of the day, my money is on my fellow AMERICAN patriot and my fellow AMERICAN patriot is all that matters to me when the going gets rough

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 11:09:52 PMWe ended WW2 and as an American I dont apologize for that. At all.

WW2 was already ending. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were live human radiation trials.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:11:54 PMAnd Muslims who are true believers "never stopped" believing YOU and I should die if we don't submit to the will of Allah. They just bury that belief as they are instructed to do so since they're just in no position to enforce such a mandate with violence here like they are in their own shitholes.

Pick up a Koran sometime and read it. I did. You will find the experience very enlightening and perhaps understand why, no matter how much you'd like to view these people as a kind and benevolent fellow tribe of the human race they are not. Or at least, won't be when the opportune time for them arrives. 

I have a heart has cold as ice and as hard as stone in this regard for a reason brah. Because I know, when the chips are down, that Muslim, no matter how close we are (and I have plenty of Muslim friends) will sell me up the river in a heartbeat if the time were to come. And in many respects, I cannot blame him, his holy book tells him to do just that. So at the end of the day, my money is on my fellow AMERICAN patriot and my fellow AMERICAN patriot is all that matters to me when the going gets rough

You're part of the reason why humanity is fucked. So jaded.... so self righteous...so ignorant....so clearly hateful. :(

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:05:20 PMThat's what I said. People who are taught bs history are doomed to repeat it.

Public schools only offer so much. I went to private and I didn't get much better.

My grandmother supplemented my education at home. I was reading classic literature and learning about history at home as well as the bare boned history in school.

I also supplemented my own kids education. I mean I still do with my youngest. Her summer reading will be deep.

What would be helpful would be government and civics classes taught as part of a regular curriculum. How can our history be properly understood when these kids aren't being taught even how the US government works? What we are and why we are specail?

We have had a steady stream of anti America bullshit crammed down our throats for decades and I cant help but feel like its intentional people grow up not knowing these things.

I'd like to see that changed. Before the country ends up utterly destroyed.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:14:11 PMYou're part of the reason why humanity is fucked. So jaded.... so self righteous...so ignorant....so clearly hateful. :(

I do have a lot of hate. Guilty as fuckin charged. Because I see the world for exactly what it is. A floating bag of shit. So don't think for one second you'll ever get me to weep because the US is doing something immoral if such an action ensures my way of life. If the US doesn't someone else will and that someone else may not be as benevolent towards my personal interests as the US has been

so it's one of those "devil you know" kind of things.

I'm selfish as fuck in that regard and damn proud of it.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:12:00 PMWW2 was already ending. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were live human radiation trials.

Maybe. But we made sure of it.

I disagree with the second part. We already had a lot of knowledge on how radiation works. I cant imagine THAT being how we do trials....there are mucb easier and less costly ways even back then.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:10:15 PMMy one grandpa was a POW in the Philippines... he barely survived and was never the same again. My other was trained as a B17 pilot but didn't see action because the war ended before he needed to be deployed.

So what?

The time to stand up to unethical or immoral actions is always in the now....and you supposed Christians are doing a bang up job making yourselves into hypocrites on that score.

There's a high probability I never would have been born had those bombs not fallen.  I'm supposed to cry and make paper cranes because some Nip cities got baked, saving the lives of tens of thousands of American boys?

Sorry, not sorry. 

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 11:16:06 PMPublic schools only offer so much. I went to private and I didn't get much better.

My grandmother supplemented my education at home. I was reading classic literature and learning about history at home as well as the bare boned history in school.

I also supplemented my own kids education. I mean I still do with my youngest. Her summer reading will be deep.

What would be helpful would be government and civics classes taught as part of a regular curriculum. How can our history be properly understood when these kids aren't being taught even how the US government works? What we are and why we are specail?

We have had a steady stream of anti America bullshit crammed down our throats for decades and I cant help but feel like its intentional people grow up not knowing these things.

I'd like to see that changed. Before the country ends up utterly destroyed.

So you don't actually understand American history... check. It's got some great moments but far more warts and pustules.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:20:07 PMThere's a high probability I never would have been born had those bombs not fallen.  I'm supposed to cry and make paper cranes because some Nip cities got baked, saving the lives of tens of thousands of American boys?

Sorry, not sorry. 

I'm sorry your historically ignorant...

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 11:18:48 PMMaybe. But we made sure of it.

I disagree with the second part. We already had a lot of knowledge on how radiation works. I cant imagine THAT being how we do trials....there are mucb easier and less costly ways even back then.

Point out where else atomic based city bomb/mass incineration/radiation poisoning trials were going on before or after... 

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:22:36 PMI'm sorry your historically ignorant...

My dad was in the first patrol that went into Nagasaki. He used to tell the story of walking across a big square of what he thought was white gravel, but it turned out to be the cremated and crunchy bones of dead burnt Japs.

Do you think he would have made it to Nagasaki if we had to invade?

The war wasn't over when the decision was made to drop the bombs.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:17:31 PMI do have a lot of hate. Guilty as fuckin charged. Because I see the world for exactly what it is. A floating bag of shit. So don't think for one second you'll ever get me to weep because the US is doing something immoral if such an action ensures my way of life. If the US doesn't someone else will and that someone else may not be as benevolent towards my personal interests as the US has been

so it's one of those "devil you know" kind of things.

I'm selfish as fuck in that regard and damn proud of it.

Right... immorality is okay if you get the momentary win... cool. You don't by chance also hold an Israeli passport?

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:12:00 PMWW2 was already ending. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were live human radiation trials.

So the history of the Samurai was all doctored to prop up our desire to test radiation on humans?

I don't buy that

if you read up on the Samurai their code of the bushido was literally the driving force behind THOUSANDS of them jumping to their own deaths on the islands of Okinawa. It was the driving force behind the Kamikaze -- navy fleet commanders locking themselves in their chambers as their vessels sank etc etc

was all of that doctored too? For what end? To prop up a lie because we needed human trials on radiation? c'mon man, you're smarter than that.

The Japanese, through their actions, gave every indication that they would fight hand to hand until every last man and woman were dead. We did not want to stomach the loses and therefore allowed THEM to choose 350,000 thousand of their own instead of millions of our boys AND theirs.

it was a tough choice but in retrospect was the right one.

Unless of course, you have compelling proof that the Emperor of Japan was willing to shit all over the very same doctrine that made him a "living God" just to surrender the entire country in shame.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:27:56 PMRight... immorality is okay if you get the momentary win... cool. You don't by chance also hold an Israeli passport?

No - I don't hold an Israeli passport

and to be clear. I don't give a shit about them either. I just dont condemn their acts of retaliation the way the other lemmings do.

They can do whatever it is they need to do to secure their own preservation. I don't judge. I don't weep for either side. All I care about are Americans. Period

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:21:39 PMSo you don't actually understand American history... check. It's got some great moments but far more warts and pustules.

Okay hear me out.

I have a position in which i assert that voting age citizens need to demonstrate they understand what kind of country the United States is, how our government works to serve US, what the purpose of government is, what the branches and separation of powers is for, AND what policies are being voted on and passed and what they do.

As far as history, I dont see how anyone who is uneducated on the US government could possibly fully understand our history and the contexts and nuances in it. But im not talking about understanding history. Im talking about understanding the US government.

I do hold that a proper understanding of the government gives a proper understanding of history. That and understanding the times historic events took place in. They go together, sure. But you can still understand the purpose and function of government whether you take a public school history courses or not.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:27:40 PMMy dad was in the first patrol that went into Nagasaki. He used to tell the story of walking across a big square of what he thought was white gravel, but it turned out to be the cremated and crunchy bones of dead burnt Japs.

Do you think he would have made it to Nagasaki if we had to invade?

The war wasn't over when the decision was made to drop the bombs.

My dad was born in June 1945 roughly 9 months after my grandfather was eventually rescued in a Japanese POW camp. I wouldn't exist if anything happened differently.

The war was over. Your public school text books led you down the garden path...  same as the US Civil War reasons, and pretty much everything after the 1820's/1830's.

The time to speak out at wrongdoing is in the here and now, or our lineage will be force fed horse shit. You want to be a patriotic American? Start doing it by calling out power and lies.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:25:34 PMPoint out where else atomic based city bomb/mass incineration/radiation poisoning trials were going on before or after... 

We simply dont need to bomb humans to know how radiation will impact them. We have seen heavy radiation poisoning. We had live examples.

We have cells that have been exposed in controlled setting. We also use bodies donated to science for weird military shit.

Im not saying the US has never acted unethically, im just saying I disagree that the bombs dropped on Japan were any sort of trial. I know people who were in that war agreed those bombs ended it.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 11:30:37 PMOkay hear me out.

I have a position in which i assert that voting age citizens need to demonstrate they understand what kind of country the United States is, how our government works to serve US, what the purpose of government is, what the branches and separation of powers is for, AND what policies are being voted on and passed and what they do.

As far as history, I dont see how anyone who is uneducated on the US government could possibly fully understand our history and the contexts and nuances in it. But im not talking about understanding history. Im talking about understanding the US government.

I do hold that a proper understanding of the government gives a proper understanding of history. That and understanding the times historic events took place in. They go together, sure. But you can still understand the purpose and function of government whether you take a public school history courses or not.

What is your position on the prolific explosion of Executive Orders used for well over half a century which have circumvented 2 branches of government?

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:20:07 PMThere's a high probability I never would have been born had those bombs not fallen.  I'm supposed to cry and make paper cranes because some Nip cities got baked, saving the lives of tens of thousands of American boys?

Sorry, not sorry.

Nor should you be.

Do you think those japs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima were crying for the young American sailors, many of whom remain entombed in the Arizona to this very day, when their radios broadcasted a "great victory for the Japanese Empire"?

no.. they danced in the streets just like those cockroaches did in Gaza on 911 2001. 

Did any of them cry as their barbaric soldiers, many of of whom were total fucking perverts, raped and pillaged their way through Chinese farmlands in a quest for natural resource and land mass?

no.. they hailed these conquests as great victories in the advancement of their empire

But all of the sudden we're supposed to get all teary eyed when Karma came to bit them in the ass in the form of two very bright displays of American might. 

not me man.

Quote from: Dove on March 18, 2026, 11:35:34 PMWe simply dont need to bomb humans to know how radiation will impact them. We have seen heavy radiation poisoning. We had live examples.

We have cells that have been exposed in controlled setting. We also use bodies donated to science for weird military shit.

Im not saying the US has never acted unethically, im just saying I disagree that the bombed dropped on Japan were any sort of trial. I know people who were in that war agreed those bombs ended it.

You'd be more upset for Fauci's beagle testing than the massive incineration of whole cities worth of humans...

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:36:40 PMWhat is your position on the prolific explosion of Executive Orders used for well over half a century which have circumvented 2 branches of government?

Seriously man.. what is it about Iran that has your tits in such a twist?

I can understand you calling me an asshole over Gaza and my total lack of empathy there. At least in that instance there is some level of controversy over whether Palestinians are displaced and whether this is a fight for their freedom or just plain old Islamic terrorism

but Iran? Bro.. you're weeping for rodents who would happily behead every last one of us for no reason at all.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:39:47 PMYou'd be more upset for Fauci's beagle testing than the massive incineration of whole cities worth of humans...

Do you believe that the Iranian regime killed 30,000 Iranian protesters ?

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:33:58 PMMy dad was born in June 1945 roughly 9 months after my grandfather was eventually rescued in a Japanese POW camp. I wouldn't exist if anything happened differently.

The war was over. Your public school text books led you down the garden path...  same as the US Civil War reasons, and pretty much everything after the 1820's/1830's.

The time to speak out at wrongdoing is in the here and now, or our lineage will be force fed horse shit. You want to be a patriotic American? Start doing it by calling out power and lies.

The example of Okinawa is pretty clear.  It would have been a long hard slog and many hundreds of thousands of Americans and Japanese would have died.  This garden path you speak of isn't familiar to me.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:27:40 PMMy dad was in the first patrol that went into Nagasaki. He used to tell the story of walking across a big square of what he thought was white gravel, but it turned out to be the cremated and crunchy bones of dead burnt Japs.

Do you think he would have made it to Nagasaki if we had to invade?

The war wasn't over when the decision was made to drop the bombs.

Honestly, when you have an ideology that is bent on blaming the US for WWII the crying will be loud and wearisome no matter which course of action was taken.

We microwave a couple of hundred thousand of them we're criminals

we go in their with the intent to preserve life, double the causality count on BOTH sides and in the end the crybabies will look up every damned and dreadful thing ANY of our soldiers did and point to it as evidence we are an evil and corrupt empire.

Look no further than Vietnam for proof as to what I'm saying

so in the end? FUck them and their feelings. Drop the nukes and preserve young American lives like your grandfather.

We didn't drop bombs on ourselves on Dec 7th 1942 so you aint gonna see a single tear come out of me for anyone on that side.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:36:56 PMNor should you be.

Do you think those japs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima were crying for the young American sailors, many of whom remain entombed in the Arizona to this very day, when their radios broadcasted a "great victory for the Japanese Empire"?

no.. they danced in the streets just like those cockroaches did in Gaza on 911 2001. 

Did any of them cry as their barbaric soldiers, many of of whom were total fucking perverts, raped and pillaged their way through Chinese farmlands in a quest for natural resource and land mass?

no.. they hailed these conquests as great victories in the advancement of their empire

But all of the sudden we're supposed to get all teary eyed when Karma came to bit them in the ass in the form of two very bright displays of American might. 

not me man.

Were most Japanese Shinto followers or most Germans nazi ideologues? No. They were manipulated/fomented like Americans were when Sadam Hussein called up the Bush Whitehouse and was assured of no blowback for invading Kuwait, or when the Trade Towers were supposedly attacked years later by a bunch of Saudi's and Afghans but Iraq had WMD's OMG! OMG! OMG!

You got duped both times and not only those times.... the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. WW2 was a direct result of the punitive and inhumane conditions placed on German civilians after the Treaty of Versailles and the Japanese would have never attacked Pearl Harbor except their oil supply to their tiny nation so dependent on it was being strangled by the US and the West at large, as well as US mercenary pilots flying for China.

Oh, and the Middle East wouldn't be the hell storm it is today if the Treaty of Versailles never transpired.

The West makes the problem then exacerbates it over numerous generations until the history books indoctrinate out the last remnants of common sense, and you're proof of it.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:50:13 PMHonestly, when you have an ideology that is bent on blaming the US for WWII the crying will be loud and wearisome no matter which course of action was taken.

We microwave a couple of hundred thousand of them we're criminals

we go in their with the intent to preserve life, double the causality count on BOTH sides and in the end the crybabies will look up every damned and dreadful thing ANY of our soldiers did and point to it as evidence we are an evil and corrupt empire.

Look no further than Vietnam for proof as to what I'm saying

so in the end? FUck them and their feelings. Drop the nukes and preserve young American lives like your grandfather.

We didn't drop bombs on ourselves on Dec 7th 1942 so you aint gonna see a single tear come out of me for anyone on that side.

I shot up your zany attempted points in my last reply without even seeing this comment of yours... lulz

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:43:50 PMDo you believe that the Iranian regime killed 30,000 Iranian protesters ?

Maybe, maybe not. I certainly don't believe anything said in the current US MSM though... it's pure propaganda these days.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 11:42:49 PMSeriously man.. what is it about Iran that has your tits in such a twist?

I can understand you calling me an asshole over Gaza and my total lack of empathy there. At least in that instance there is some level of controversy over whether Palestinians are displaced and whether this is a fight for their freedom or just plain old Islamic terrorism

but Iran? Bro.. you're weeping for rodents who would happily behead every last one of us for no reason at all.

Iranians are rodents? Are rodents WMD's?

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:51:16 PMWere most Japanese Shinto followers or most Germans nazi ideologues? No. They were manipulated/fomented like Americans were when Sadam Hussein called up the Bush Whitehouse and was assured of no blowback for invading Kuwait, or when the Trade Towers were supposedly attacked years later by a bunch of Saudi's and Afghans but Iraq had WMD's OMG! OMG! OMG!

You got duped both times and not only those times.... the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. WW2 was a direct result of the punitive and inhumane conditions placed on German civilians after the Treaty of Versailles and the Japanese would have never attacked Pearl Harbor except their oil supply to their tiny nation so dependent on it was being strangled by the US and the West at large, as well as US mercenary pilots flying for China.

Oh, and the Middle East wouldn't be the hell storm it is today if the Treaty of Versailles never transpired.

The West makes the problem then exacerbates it over numerous generations until the history books indoctrinate out the last remnants of common sense, and you're proof of it.

Who would you prefer write thew history books?

We've seen what happens when history is "revised."  We need only witness the young nitwits on college campuses who fervently believe we live on "stolen land" and that organizing homosexuals to "protest for Palestine" makes any kind of rational sense.

So, who would you prefer write the history books?  The losers instead of the winners?

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:51:16 PMWere most Japanese Shinto followers or most Germans nazi ideologues? No. They were manipulated/fomented like Americans were when Sadam Hussein called up the Bush Whitehouse and was assured of no blowback for invading Kuwait, or when the Trade Towers were supposedly attacked years later by a bunch of Saudi's and Afghans but Iraq had WMD's OMG! OMG! OMG!

You got duped both times and not only those times.... the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. WW2 was a direct result of the punitive and inhumane conditions placed on German civilians after the Treaty of Versailles and the Japanese would have never attacked Pearl Harbor except their oil supply to their tiny nation so dependent on it was being strangled by the US and the West at large, as well as US mercenary pilots flying for China.

Oh, and the Middle East wouldn't be the hell storm it is today if the Treaty of Versailles never transpired.

The West makes the problem then exacerbates it over numerous generations until the history books indoctrinate out the last remnants of common sense, and you're proof of it.

Were the 3000 employees who showed up for work in the world trade center on 9-11 soliders? Intelligence officers? Combatants of any kind?

Nope.

And what did Osama bin Laden say when interviewed? "they were tax paying citizens who's taxes contributed to the American war machine and were therefore legitimate targets"

and you know what? as Much as I hate to admit it he's got a point. Our military wouldn't have the muscle it has without the everyday person

so yes, when it's dog it dog and we're fighting to win EVERYONE is a fucking target. and I expect the otherside to be looking at the chessboard from the same perspective

this idea of sterile war is fucking stupid. So a medic runs out into the battlefield ready to stitch up a few causalities so as to get them back into the fight and I'm suddenly a criminal if I take him out before he's had a chance to do so?

that's silly ideology there man. War is brutal. It's ugly and quite frankly disgusting. It's supposed to be that way so people AVOID it.

Now .. to your point about our meddling in Middle eastern affairs getting us to where we are today. I quite frankly don't give a fuck about that either. I didn't support it and I didn't start it... it's there despite my personal wishes that it wasn't -- but the fact of the matter is that since it's there these people have a bone to pick with me, and all the yellow belly sobbing I decide to do on their behalf isn't going to change the fact that they view me with the same level of contempt they view every other AMerican and will take me out the first chance they get.

so based on that set of circumstances? Fuckem. I wont weep for any of them no matter how many bombs we drop on their heads

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:55:30 PMMaybe, maybe not. I certainly don't believe anything said in the current US MSM though... it's pure propaganda these days.

Anna Kasparian was asked the very same question and answered similarly.

But she happily gobbles up the bloated civilian casualty reports coming out of a terrorist organization.

so I now put the question to you. How many civilians do you think died in Gaza at the hands of the Isrealies?

Quote from: Reggie Essent on March 18, 2026, 11:59:46 PMWho would you prefer write thew history books?

We've seen what happens when history is "revised."  We need only witness the young nitwits on college campuses who fervently believe we live on "stolen land" and that organizing homosexuals to "protest for Palestine" makes any kind of rational sense.

So, who would you prefer write the history books?  The losers instead of the winners?

The honest....wherever the cards may fall.

Our ancestors at one point stole land from others who stole territory in turn from others. It's all very disgusting but once a few generations spring forth, the time to call it out is over because they are the people of the land.

Courage is saying right away... "no, this is wrong. I will not participate in it."

As for homos protesting the killing of civilians and children? Homos are allowed to recognize some bad things they see, even if they do bad things to themselves and others.

Don't throw the gay baby out with the gay bath water...

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:03:03 AMAnna Kasparian was asked the very same question and answered similarly.

But she happily gobbles up the bloated civilian casualty reports coming out of a terrorist organization.

so I now put the question to you. How many civilians do you think died in Gaza at the hands of the Isrealies?

In the rubble or by sniper fire?

Gaza is largely rubble now and anything which stirs is shot at.

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 11:53:18 PMI shot up your zany attempted points in my last reply without even seeing this comment of yours... lulz

I'm sure in your world you believe you "shot up" my points

but the reality of the matter is quite different as you have yet to produce anything but emotional hysterics and some shameless pontificating about "empathy" -- which is laughable considering you cannot show any it to some poor Mexican roofer or sheet rocker working his ass to the bone 12 hours a day because he crossed some imaginary line on a border 15 years ago.

Yeah, that guy simply has to suffer for his reprehensible crime but lets all hold hands and weep together because YOU suddenly grew something that remotely resembles a conscience on some petri dish and feel that the people who want us dead should be allowed to run ragshod through their efforts to harm us

No sale here, pal.

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:09:55 AMIn the rubble or by sniper fire?

Gaza is largely rubble now and anything which stirs is shot at.

Have you been there?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:01:03 AMWere the 3000 employees who showed up for work in the world trade center on 9-11 soliders? Intelligence officers? Combatants of any kind?

Nope.

And what did Osama bin Laden say when interviewed? "they were tax paying citizens who's taxes contributed to the American war machine and were therefore legitimate targets"

and you know what? as Much as I hate to admit it he's got a point. Our military wouldn't have the muscle it has without the everyday person

so yes, when it's dog it dog and we're fighting to win EVERYONE is a fucking target. and I expect the otherside to be looking at the chessboard from the same perspective

this idea of sterile war is fucking stupid. So a medic runs out into the battlefield ready to stitch up a few causalities so as to get them back into the fight and I'm suddenly a criminal if I take him out before he's had a chance to do so?

that's silly ideology there man. War is brutal. It's ugly and quite frankly disgusting. It's supposed to be that way so people AVOID it.

Now .. to your point about our meddling in Middle eastern affairs getting us to where we are today. I quite frankly don't give a fuck about that either. I didn't support it and I didn't start it... it's there despite my personal wishes that it wasn't -- but the fact of the matter is that since it's there these people have a bone to pick with me, and all the yellow belly sobbing I decide to do on their behalf isn't going to change the fact that they view me with the same level of contempt they view every other AMerican and will take me out the first chance they get.

so based on that set of circumstances? Fuckem. I wont weep for any of them no matter how many bombs we drop on their heads

If you identify as a Christian, you're probably assured of a executive class flight to hell.....

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:13:12 AMIf you identify as a Christian, you're probably assured of a executive class flight to hell.....

I don't believe in hell - no such place.

Nor do I believe that anyone who vests their hope in THIS world, it's leaders or it's policies is a true Christian

Jesus said his Kingdom was 'not of this world' 

so your attempts at a gotcha won't make it off the tarmac with me, bro.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:11:13 AMI'm sure in your world you believe you "shot up" my points

but the reality of the matter is quite different as you have yet to produce anything but emotional hysterics and some shameless pontificating about "empathy" -- which is laughable considering you cannot show any it to some poor Mexican roofer or sheet rocker working his ass to the bone 12 hours a day because he crossed some imaginary line on a border 15 years ago.

Yeah, that guy simply has to suffer for his reprehensible crime but lets all hold hands and weep together because YOU suddenly grew something that remotely resembles a conscience on some petri dish and feel that the people who want us dead should be allowed to run ragshod through their efforts to harm us

No sale here, pal.

The law was clear. The illegal intentionally broke it. The illegal is a criminal and there's no recourse just because they shadow lived in a quiet fashion.

Still a criminal shitbag. There is no statute of limitations on that.

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:06:57 AMThe honest....wherever the cards may fall.

Our ancestors at one point stole land from others who stole territory in turn from others. It's all very disgusting but once a few generations spring forth, the time to call it out is over because they are the people of the land.

Courage is saying right away... "no, this is wrong. I will not participate in it."

As for homos protesting the killing of civilians and children? Homos are allowed to recognize some bad things they see, even if they do bad things to themselves and others.

Don't throw the gay baby out with the gay bath water...

All our ancestors were brutal fucks. That's true history there. And innocent civilians die in every war. I wish the Brits hadn't firebombed Dresden.  That was a nasty business. And the war was over anyway, right?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:15:22 AMI don't believe in hell - no such place.

Nor do I believe that anyone who vests their hope in THIS world, it's leaders or it's policies is a true Christian

Jesus said his Kingdom was 'not of this world' 

so your attempts at a gotcha won't make it off the tarmac with me, bro.

Sweet... not a Christian, not a Jew, not a Muslim.... you must be NEW AGE... ie, whatever you reckon because you reckon it!    :s_laugh:

The furries will call you a steadfast bro, brah!

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:16:10 AMThe law was clear. The illegal intentionally broke it. The illegal is a criminal and there's no recourse just because they shadow lived in a quiet fashion.

Still a criminal shitbag. There is no statute of limitations on that.

Okay... demonstrate for all of us your lack of Empathy on such a minor crime.

Guy fucked up.. and no matter what he's done since is inconsequential. Once a criminal always a criminal -- act of desperation or not be damned.

yeah.. your empathy is stellar... a true shining light.

now please continue to weep for people who wish to kill us an remain amazed at why we are laughing at the idea of YOU feeling sorry for these people.

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:18:30 AMSweet... not a Christian, not a Jew, not a Muslim.... you must be NEW AGE... ie, whatever you reckon because you reckon it!    :s_laugh:

The furries will call you a steadfast bro, brah!

I'm sorry, but your attempts to box me in will continue to fail. I don't even know what "new age" is. Is that a tiktok thing or something?

Let's just say I'm highly informed as to what the bible says and does not say, needn't be a "christian, a jew or any other religion to pick up the book and read it.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:18:54 AMOkay... demonstrate for all of us your lack of Empathy on such a minor crime.

Guy fucked up.. and no matter what he's done since is inconsequential. Once a criminal always a criminal -- act of desperation or not be damned.

yeah.. your empathy is stellar... a true shining light.

now please continue to weep for people who wish to kill us an remain amazed at why we are laughing at the idea of YOU feeling sorry for these people.

I name specific instances of criminality. Ie an illegal alien. You tar and feather whole nations worth of people's, civilians, old men, women, children... 

No contest, mate. You're fully delusional.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 19, 2026, 12:21:34 AMI'm sorry, but your attempts to box me in will continue to fail. I don't even know what "new age" is. Is that a tiktok thing or something?

Let's just say I'm highly informed as to what the bible says and does not say, needn't be a "christian, a jew or any other religion to pick up the book and read it.

Highly informed on the Bible but refutes the concept of hell... okayyyyyy...  :s_laugh:

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:22:35 AMI name specific instances of criminality. Ie an illegal alien. You tar and feather whole nations worth of people's, civilians, old men, women, children... 

No contest, mate. You're fully delusional.

Anyone who supports my enemy whether they are doing so willingly or through coercion is my enemy by extension

why is that so difficult for you to understand? 

I'm off to bed, lads. Please condense your posts to me in one burst with the lead word being FROOD in all caps so I can weed out distractions and diversions when I get back to it.  :pardon:

Quote from: Frood on March 19, 2026, 12:23:40 AMHighly informed on the Bible but refutes the concept of hell... okayyyyyy...  :s_laugh:

Present me ONE scripture that proves conclusively there is a place of fiery torment where people are sent to suffer unimaginable pain for all eternity

And if you go the cheap route ie the Lake of fire referenced in the book of revelation I'm going to laugh at you even harden than I am now

go with something a little more robust -- like -- the Valley of Hinnom ... that way I know you are at least semi literate on the matter.

go.  :popcorn:

Quote from: Frood on March 18, 2026, 07:57:46 PMHe needs to be chucked out.

I was relatively strongish as a supporter in 2016, 2020, and even a bit in 2024. I loved the way he shut the borders and put illegals on notice... started negotiations to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, getting rid of woke shit, and fake crony green industry shit. I still do... 

...but the attacks on some of his prior ardent supporters because they disagreed with the manner and rationale of his policies really poisoned my well...particularly when we can easily pull up footage and transcripts of him pre 2015 ridiculing the mentality which has ironically driven his choices into this new term of his.

5-6 fumbled and changing reasons why Iran is an existential threat now, and that's why the time was now to attack unprovoked? Yeah, nah... Trump can go fuck himself on that one. And now the panhandling to NATO and semi aligned nations to sacrifice their military men and women plus the ships they're on in a narrow shipping lane TRUMP lit on fire? Yeah nah, Trump can go fuck himself again on that one. All those nations basically said the same.

Then there's the almost constant EO's to get his shit done. I understand he's got PTSD from a decade of false accusations, activist judges, and treasonous bureaucrats... I've often feel real empathy for the crap he's had to endure and continues to endure, but the US isn't his company. He has to make his best case and not his best iron fist.

Venezuela, Iran, potentially Cuba or even Mexico.... with quips about Greenland? Ok, I did find his Greenland stuff entertaining, but the rest never should have happened or shouldn't happen.

Double tap strikes on 170+ children and rescuers? Fuck Donald Trump.

Saying nothing about Israel pulverizing tens of thousands of Gazan civilians, while illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank divert water, cut down trees, and in some cases murder the lawful residents? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.

Removing armaments stationed in bases throughout the Middle East from reliable partners who just got their infrastructures attacked in retaliation for what the US and Israel did, then giving it to Israel? Taking components out of South Korea and giving it to Israel? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


Continuing to subsidize Israel to the tune of billions per year while US citizens have a lower standard of living? Yeah nah... fuck Donald Trump.


There's a whole slew of things we should say fuck Trump for... but if he regains his balls and changes course, I will forgive him but not forget.

He's killing REAL MAGA and turning the US into an even bigger pariah on the international stage where the US's word means nothing and people are sick of it... even former supporters like myself.

Trump was not my first choice for the Republican nomination. Kamala was not even an option. She was part of the intentionally worst administration in US history.

There are many policies of the current administration I like and others I disagree with. One idea I think is a vote buying gimmick and a waste of money is tariff dividends. The hundreds of billions collected through tariffs should be applied to the deficit.

Serious question for all the crybabies weeping their little hearts out over the scumbag Ayatollah's getting exactly what they deserved

why is it that Kim Yong Ping Pong or whatever the fuck his name is, was able to develop nukes, test rockets and basically give a big middle finger to anyone telling him he cant? With no real consequence

I'll tell you why.. because north Korea has NOT proven itself to be a fanatical suicidal scourge on humanity that cannot be reasoned with on any level.

People ask why do we keep picking on these camel fuckers? that's why. They are sick, twisted and on a religiously motivated quest to assimilate EVERYONE into their lunacy.

so yeah, so Trump need only get a NO Caller ID phone call in the middle of the night with some very anonymous source whispering that they heard someone say at a party somewhere that Iran might have the ability to develop a nuke and I fully support him saying "that's enough intel to bomb them back to the stone ages"

Hell, Trump could say "I had a dream last night that Iran set off a dirty bomb in Miami" and that would be enough credible evidence for me to support him going in and bombing them back to the stone ages

Fuck.. he could announce tomorrow he was eating a bowl of alphabet soup and suddenly the letters spontaneously assembled together in the broth to spell out "bomb Iran" and that this was proof of providence and a sign for God and that would be enough for me.

I'm dead ass here.

I don't want some Psychotic regime that kills their own women for the crime of being attacked and raped by their lustful scumbag male population even knowing how to spell nuclear fusion -- let alone have the ability to master it

I don't give a fuck who doesn't like what I have to say. I am NOT willing to take chances with the lives of my fellow, Patriotic, Americans and I am certainly not willing to hedge their safety and security on the mercy and rationality of a bunch of sub human heathens.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 18, 2026, 10:11:34 PMI'm not a fan of boots on the ground at all. Especially when it's declared as some kind of "nation building" effort. Fuck building Iran

bomb the fuck out of and let them rebuild their own fucking shithole

Neither am I. I just hope this ends well. That means the end of the Islamic revolutionary regime.

I did not want this action, but now that it has happened I want the Iranian government replaced.

This discussion is has taken many turns. I will only address the biggest present issue in Mr. Trump's presidency.

This war will all be for naught if the current Iranian government is still in power at the conclusion of hostilities.

Gotta admit Netanyahu made a good point earlier today  :crampe:

Quote from: Oliver the Second on March 19, 2026, 09:34:51 PMGotta admit Netanyahu made a good point earlier today  :crampe:

Excellent point.

The midterms are shaping up to be a rough outing for Republicans, according to CNN analyst Harry Enten.

On Thursday, Enten pointed to Americans' attitudes on the cost of living and a massive drop in satisfaction from just before the election in 2024 until March 2026.

While President Donald Trump enjoyed a three-point net positive on the issue of cost of living in October 2024, he now has a negative 41-point rating on the same issue. The rating is the worst recorded, said the analyst.

"I would say that this is the most troublesome sign that I have seen for the president of the United States and the Republican Party so far," said Enten.

"You can't win when you're 41 points below water on the cost of living."

Among independent voters, which many consider to be a bellwether for elections, the drop is even steeper. The president had a net positive rating of 11 points in 2024, but that has fallen by 71 points to a net negative rating of 60 points among independents for the cost-of-living question.

"This, my dear friends, is just a political nightmare waiting to happen for the Republican Party come the midterm election," Enten added.

This is very unfair. Until the war, gasoline prices have dropped, food inflation is third what it is in Canada, he gave workers more disposable income with no taxes on tips and overtime.

Trump is a G. lmao

The Strait of America?  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wn7eqdVr0

Quote from: Oliver the Second on March 19, 2026, 09:34:51 PMGotta admit Netanyahu made a good point earlier today  :crampe:

Bullseye.

Only total retards believe that Israel is dragging the US into anything.

If Israel had the means to drag a president into war they would have done so when that cantaloupe was in office

I swear, this jew hate turns otherwise normal and intelligent people into absolute spastics 

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 09:39:20 AMTrump is a G. lmao

The Strait of America?  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wn7eqdVr0

Dude, I listened to that shit live yesterday when I was traveling for work. I LOL'd so fuking hard when he said "Pearl Harbor", I didnt hear another fucking thing said for a solid 10 seconds! I immediately called 5 people to tell them and they all asked "What was said after that?" and I told them "Dont have a clue cause I was laughing so fukin hard!"

Some pretty solid commentary on the current situation.

Despite my full support of Trump I am still convinced we are not getting the whole story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikdufnTfNo

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 10:54:31 AMSome pretty solid commentary on the current situation.

Despite my full support of Trump I am still convinced we are not getting the whole story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikdufnTfNo

They are getting ready for a ground invasion. :facepalm:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 10:54:31 AMSome pretty solid commentary on the current situation.

Despite my full support of Trump I am still convinced we are not getting the whole story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikdufnTfNo

I know boots on the ground is deeply unpopular. But, if the Islamic revolutionary regime is still in power two years from now this military operation was all for nothing.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 09:41:46 AMBullseye.

Only total retards believe that Israel is dragging the US into anything.

If Israel had the means to drag a president into war they would have done so when that cantaloupe was in office

I swear, this jew hate turns otherwise normal and intelligent people into absolute spastics 

Only a total retard would not recognize that Israel drags the US into wars.

A legit grade A fucking moron...

Quote from: Frood on March 20, 2026, 01:59:01 PMOnly a total retard would not recognize that Israel drags the US into wars.

A legit grade A fucking moron...

Only a totally gillible fuckwit with the iq of a house fly would be spastix emough to believe isreal can make the US do anything it did mot want to do already

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 02:45:30 PMOnly a totally gillible fuckwit with the iq of a house fly would be spastix emough to believe isreal can make the US do anything it did mot want to do already

You deserve whatever retaliation is coming for the US. I have no sympathy for ostriches with their heads up their own arses.

Quote from: Frood on March 20, 2026, 03:08:43 PMYou deserve whatever retaliation is coming for the US. I have no sympathy for ostriches with their heads up their own arses.

Dont worry Fred. You'll be WW3'd too!  :crampe:

My best guess on the F35 is Russia is playing with a new toy. I know if I was your buddy Putin, thats what I'd do. Thats what Russia AND China did back in the 50's and 60's.

All this shit has been coming to a head for years. Maybe Russia and China figure the US/Trump has blown its load of interceptors and left the mainland vulnerable and launch nukes at us..... Oh well.  :dontknow:

Like the old saying goes, better to die on your feet than cowering like a bitch!

Quote from: Frood on March 20, 2026, 03:08:43 PMYou deserve whatever retaliation is coming for the US. I have no sympathy for ostriches with their heads up their own arses.

Well, As-Salaam-Alaikum to you too Ayatollah Froodmenie


If it comes it comes ... it's not like whatever does come wasn't already in progress and play long before we took down these scumbags that you weep for

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 09:39:20 AMTrump is a G. lmao

The Strait of America?  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wn7eqdVr0

He knows how to troll libtards like nobody else.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on March 20, 2026, 04:15:10 PMWell, As-Salaam-Alaikum to you too Ayatollah Froodmenie


If it comes it comes ... it's not like whatever does come wasn't already in progress and play long before we took down these scumbags that you weep for

They have been planning that for forty seven years.

Here is the best reason for a long drawn out beating of Iran.
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Quote from: Herman on March 22, 2026, 08:27:21 PMHere is the best reason for a long drawn out beating of Iran.
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Thats fukin priceless!! Fuk that dumb whore in her herpes infested twat!  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on March 22, 2026, 08:32:01 PMThats fukin priceless!! Fuk that dumb whore in her herpes infested twat!  :crampe:

Even if it is bullshit fuck singers and actors.