The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
			
			
			
				Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
Im serious when i say i dont really know anything about the religion they worship, is it Christian based or?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Renee"
Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
Im serious when i say i dont really know anything about the religion they worship, is it Christian based or?
They are not Christian Keeper.
			 
			
			
				IT depends on what you consider Christian. I guess it's Christian if you consider Mormonism and shit like that Christian. They believe in a Christian type God and the heart after but I don't think they celebrate the Eucharist or believe in the Holy Trinity.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
IT depends on what you consider Christian. I guess it's Christian if you consider Mormonism and shit like that Christian. They believe in a Christian type God and the heart after but I don't think they celebrate the Eucharist or believe in the Holy Trinity.
Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, Catholics, United Church and most mainline protestant churches are not Christian.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Renee"
IT depends on what you consider Christian. I guess it's Christian if you consider Mormonism and shit like that Christian. They believe in a Christian type God and the heart after but I don't think they celebrate the Eucharist or believe in the Holy Trinity.
Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, Catholics, United Church and most mainline protestant churches are not Christian.
That pretty much sums it up nicely for me, Thanks Fashy
			 
			
			
				Fash and Keeper, I like you both because I agree with you both most of the time. However, this will be one instance where I will not agree with you. There is the internet superhighway where you will find resources that will vouch for the fact that all those groups you mentioned, Fash, are indeed Christians. For example, United Church of Christ mentions "Christ" because they are following Christ's teachings so that makes them CHRISTians. Maybe not to you but the truth is, they are Christians. I trust you will find supporting evidence of this so I won't bother in explaining it to you. They are all Christians.
			
			
			
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Fash and Keeper, I like you both because I agree with you both most of the time. However, this will be one instance where I will not agree with you. There is the internet superhighway where you will find resources that will vouch for the fact that all those groups you mentioned, Fash, are indeed Christians. For example, United Church of Christ mentions "Christ" because they are following Christ's teachings so that makes them CHRISTians. Maybe not to you but the truth is, they are Christians. I trust you will find supporting evidence of this so I won't bother in explaining it to you. They are all Christians.
I was referring to the United Church of Canada which betrayed our Lord and Saviour.
A former moderator wrote this The divinity of Jesus and the reality of heaven and hell are irrelevant.
And this What really matters, is mending a broken world.
How shocking.
 ac_wot
			 
			
			
				I was referring to the United Church of Christ. You only wrote United Church so how would I have known that you were speaking of the United Church of Canada? Any denomination that follows the teachings of Christ are Christians.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I was referring to the United Church of Christ. You only wrote United Church so how would I have known that you were speaking of the United Church of Canada? Any denomination that follows the teachings of Christ are Christians.
No, any church that says The divinity of Jesus and the reality of heaven and hell are irrelevant.
 is the enemy of our Lord and Saviour.
1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons
			 
			
			
				Perhaps you are right about that one particular church, United Church of Canada, but please educate yourself more before you claim that all those groups are not Christian. You will find that you are sadly mistaken.
			
			
			
				I only made the post Azhya because i wasnt sure why Jehovashs would go door to door. I do not know nothing of their religion. Good or bad, totally up to them who they want to worship.
I DO NOT judge people that way.
			
			
			
				We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Perhaps you are right about that one particular church, United Church of Canada, but please educate yourself more before you claim that all those groups are not Christian. You will find that you are sadly mistaken.
It's actually a highly debated issue.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
Hello Catholic  ac_hithere I am Keeper...  ac_tongue
			 
			
			
				Hi Keeper! :D
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
This is very true..
I grew up in a Fellowship Baptist church and attended Christian school..
I was a church kid, but I was not a Christian..
My salvation came later.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Keeper"
I only made the post Azhya because i wasnt sure why Jehovashs would go door to door. I do not know nothing of their religion. Good or bad, totally up to them who they want to worship.
I DO NOT judge people that way.
Christians come from all those religions but I strongly believe it applies to the true Christian who believes in Jesus Christ as his/her lord and savior whether they were born a Protestant or a Catholic or a Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness followers go door to door to witness to people about their faith, just like the Mormons who are also called the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These people go door to door in hopes of bringing you to the fold to "save" you from a life of sin. Their goal is to bring as many people into their faith by "witnessing" to you and make you a "born again" Christian. When they succeed in bringing you into their fold, they consider you "saved." How do I know this? I grew up with a lot of these people. It's okay if you don't agree. I know I'm right and I will stick to my claim.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Keeper"
I only made the post Azhya because i wasnt sure why Jehovashs would go door to door. I do not know nothing of their religion. Good or bad, totally up to them who they want to worship.
I DO NOT judge people that way.
Christians come from all those religions but it I strongly believe it applies to the true Christian who believes in Jesus Christ as his/her lord and savior whether they were born a Protestant or a Catholic or a Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness followers go door to door to witness to people about their faith, just like the Mormons who are also called the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These people go door to door in hopes of bringing you to the fold to "save" you from a life of sin. Their goal is to bring as many people into their faith by "witnessing" to you and make you a "born again" Christian. When they succeed in bringing you into their fold, they consider you "saved." How do I know this? I grew up with a lot of these people. It's okay if you don't agree. I know I'm right and I will stick to my claim.
Well, with out trying to offend and "religious" people here, Just like Politics i dont have the time.....  ac_dunno
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
You were born into a Christian family but you don't consider yourself Christian. You can consider yourself anything but it does not have to be correct and we can also disagree on that and that is just fine with me. There are Christians who shouldn't claim they are Christians because they aren't following Christ's teachings, and there are Christians who really are Christians because they are Christ-like.
			 
			
			
				I believe much the same Asia but I still don't identify myself as a Christian. However when they are tallying numbers of or Christianity worldwide, I count as one.
			
			
			
				There you go.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
You were born into a Christian family but you don't consider yourself Christian. You can consider yourself anything but it does not have to be correct and we can also disagree on that and that is just fine with me. There are Christians who shouldn't claim they are Christians because they aren't following Christ's teachings, and there are Christians who really are Christians because they are Christ-like.
I get what you are saying but I still don't identify myself as a "Christian" as it's a different thing in my world.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
You were born into a Christian family but you don't consider yourself Christian. You can consider yourself anything but it does not have to be correct and we can also disagree on that and that is just fine with me. There are Christians who shouldn't claim they are Christians because they aren't following Christ's teachings, and there are Christians who really are Christians because they are Christ-like.
I get what you are saying but I still don't identify myself as a "Christian" as it's a different thing in my world.
Its Okay!!.
We ALL cant be perfect RW  ac_razz
			 
			
			
				Also, Keeper, you said you're not sure of why they go door to door and I just explained it from my perspective because I've known these people.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Also, Keeper, you said you're not sure of why they go door to door and I just explained it from my perspective because I've known these people.
I remember a couple years ago they also had a small child with them, He was trying to explain to me but hhe was so nervious, bless his heart he was so cute.
Mom wasnt so bad either (wink wink)  ac_dance
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "RW"
We can debate this one until the cows come home.
I am Catholic and I do not consider myself to be "Christian".  I see that as something completely separate.
You were born into a Christian family but you don't consider yourself Christian. You can consider yourself anything but it does not have to be correct and we can also disagree on that and that is just fine with me. There are Christians who shouldn't claim they are Christians because they aren't following Christ's teachings, and there are Christians who really are Christians because they are Christ-like.
Salvation is not something you inherit like height or eye color Azhya..
Getting saved is about fully accepting His death as the sufficient sacrifice for your sins (John 3:16), and fully trusting Him alone as your Savior (John 14:6; Acts 4:12)..
Becoming a Christian is all about having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ..
A personal relationship with Jesus Christ, through faith, is what makes a person a Christian.
Churches that tell their flock any different are heretical.
			 
			
			
				I know what I'm talking about, Fash, and I'm not changing my mind on it. Salvation is not Christianity. Salvation is just a word describing you are saved. Christians follow the teachings of Christ. Not all Christians are saved. Those who are saved have declared themselves born again.
			
			
			
				Those who consider themselves Christians because they have been saved and do not consider Christians who have not declared themselves born again engage in some kind of "religious bias" against those Christians who have not been born again because they consider themselves better than them. It isn't fair but I've seen this all throughout my life. It's annoying and irritating. It's like a social/class conflict.
			
			
			
				There are born again Christians but not all Christians are born again.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I know what I'm talking about, Fash, and I'm not changing my mind on it. Salvation is not Christianity. Salvation is just a word describing you are saved. Christians follow the teachings of Christ. Not all Christians are saved. Those who are saved have declared themselves born again.
That is heresy Azhya..
You cannot know Jesus with out being saved. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." 
			 
			
			
				Sure, if you follow the bible word for word. Christianity is a personal matter. You are not a Christian only because you were submerged in water. I don't believe in that for once.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Sure, if you follow the bible word for word. Christianity is a personal matter. You are not a Christian just because you were submerged in water. I don't believe in that for once.
The word of God is not a cafeteria where you pick and choose what suits you..
That is what man in his rebellious natural state does..
You are right though, I know people who have declared their love of our Lord and been baptized, but have not repented.
Our God knows the person's heart and if they have truly been transformed. 1 Samuel 16:7
			 
			
			
				Romans 8:9, "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
I don't believe that you are a Christian only if you are dunk in water. That makes me laugh. It is the individual who chooses to have Christ dwell in him/her who is a Christian in spirit and at heart.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Romans 8:9, "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
I don't believe that you are a Christian only if you are dunk in water. That makes me laugh. It is the individual who chooses to have Christ dwell in him/her who is a Christian in spirit and at heart.
The verse you quoted is what I am saying..
If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him..
It is God the father that brings us to Christ and through Christ we are saved. John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 
			 
			
			
				The "word of God" aka the Bible was written by MAN and not God.  And all Christian religions pick and choose which of the words in the good book they follow Fash.  If you want to challenge me on this, I'll whip out the OT and we'll talk about what God had to say in there.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
The verse you quoted is what I am saying..
If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him..
It is God the father that brings us to Christ and through Christ we are saved. John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 
We agree on that. However, many aspects of your belief and faith are dictated to you by your church which I may not agree to. I don't go to your church so I do not consider your church to be the AUTHORITY on Christianity. I believe in my own church that's why I am not following your church. Nevertheless, our basic beliefs ought to be similar since we're both protestants.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
The "word of God" aka the Bible was written by MAN and not God.  And all Christian religions pick and choose which of the words in the good book they follow Fash.  If you want to challenge me on this, I'll whip out the OT and we'll talk about what God had to say in there.
I agree with you on this.
			 
			
			
				She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 
Ezekiel 23:20 NIV
When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. 
Deuteronomy 25:11-12
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. 
Numbers 31:17-18
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
 ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				Just for the record, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a follower of anyone but me. =)))))
			
			
			
				Quote from: "easter bunny"
Just for the record, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a follower of anyone but me. =)))))
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. 
Ephesians 6:5 NLT
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
The "word of God" aka the Bible was written by MAN and not God.  And all Christian religions pick and choose which of the words in the good book they follow Fash.  If you want to challenge me on this, I'll whip out the OT and we'll talk about what God had to say in there.
RW should go out on the date with me because I have very high earning potential.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
The "word of God" aka the Bible was written by MAN and not God.  And all Christian religions pick and choose which of the words in the good book they follow Fash.  If you want to challenge me on this, I'll whip out the OT and we'll talk about what God had to say in there.
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God
Men are taking dictation from God.
			 
			
			
				Mel is Christian.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
The "word of God" aka the Bible was written by MAN and not God.  And all Christian religions pick and choose which of the words in the good book they follow Fash.  If you want to challenge me on this, I'll whip out the OT and we'll talk about what God had to say in there.
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God
Men are taking dictation from God.
Inspired and taking diction are very different things.
			 
			
			
				You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. . . . The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head. 
Deuteronomy 28:30-31,35
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Keeper"
I only made the post Azhya because i wasnt sure why Jehovashs would go door to door. I do not know nothing of their religion. Good or bad, totally up to them who they want to worship.
I DO NOT judge people that way.
Jehovah's believe that when they die, they go into the ground.  When the end of the world happens, God will call forth 144,000 of his most faithful followers to Heaven. 
It is their belief that they must spread the word of God to as many people as possible. If they don't, they can actually be kicked out of their religion for being a non-believer. 
And yes, they are everywhere. I had a few of them hunting me down in South Korea and recently spotted a few in Mexico.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
 ac_toofunny
Sometimes they run for the door so fast , that they leave skid marks.
			 
			
			
				What the fuck is up with this idiotic, stupid fucking thread. It's a book of fucking fairytales people. There's more important fucking issues in the fucking world like what is my Daddy doing with that fucking golddigging cunt?
Do you stupid fucks believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny too?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
What the fuck is up with this idiotic, stupid fucking thread. It's a book of fucking fairytales people. There's more important fucking issues in the fucking world like what is my Daddy doing with that fucking golddigging cunt?
Do you stupid fucks believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny too?
The Easter Bunny is real. I know this because it posts here. It also seems to like my sense of humour so it must also have good taste.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
What the fuck is up with this idiotic, stupid fucking thread. It's a book of fucking fairytales people. There's more important fucking issues in the fucking world like what is my Daddy doing with that fucking golddigging cunt?
Do you stupid fucks believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny too?
The Easter Bunny is real. I know this because it posts here. It also seems to like my sense of humour so it must also have good taste.
Is that the same guy from the white idiot forum?
			 
			
			
				When they come to my door i dont say a word but point to my no soliviting sign and when they look i shut the door. The sign is right next to my door lol. My daughter on the other hand will tell them shes a devil worshipper and in the middle of a seance.... Lol
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
What the fuck is up with this idiotic, stupid fucking thread. It's a book of fucking fairytales people. There's more important fucking issues in the fucking world like what is my Daddy doing with that fucking golddigging cunt?
Do you stupid fucks believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny too?
The Easter Bunny is real. I know this because it posts here. It also seems to like my sense of humour so it must also have good taste.
Is that the same guy from the white idiot forum?
Enough with hating on the white people.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
The Easter Bunny is real. I know this because it posts here. It also seems to like my sense of humour so it must also have good taste.
Is that the same guy from the white idiot forum?
Enough with hating on the white people.
Yeah, but but you guys suck. You stink of cheese and margarine too.
			 
			
			
				The Easter Bunny guy isn't the same guy - just another troll.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
The Easter Bunny guy isn't the same guy - just another troll.
Yeah, that's what I thought.....thanx!!
			 
			
			
				What?? Easter bunny a troll? I thought it was blurt
			
			
			
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What?? Easter bunny a troll? I thought it was blurt
I thought it was one of Phagdish Hardy's white homo left coast handles. Truth is, who fucking cares. We know it's a troll.
			 
			
			
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What?? Easter bunny a troll? I thought it was blurt
Blurt is the chicken.
			 
			
			
				Maybe its evs.... Lolol
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Annie"
What?? Easter bunny a troll? I thought it was blurt
Blurt is the chicken.
A week or two ago, I thought Blurt was as big a spineless creep as the admin here. It is amazing how both of them have grown up recently.
			 
			
			
				I wouldn't know.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
I wouldn't know.
Yes, you fucking do. Fash and Burt are a couple of buttkissing losers. They both make me fucking sick!! acc_angry
			 
			
			
				You're putting your pal here in a tough spot.  Bad Shen!  Spanking time for you!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Renee"
Yes they do it all over. 
They are usually very sincere and polite so it makes it very hard to tell them to get lost. I usually just stand there, smile, take there literature, say thank you and then tell them I'm a pagan and that I have a virgin tied up in the basement waiting to be sacrificed so I'm really busy and I'm not interested at this time.
 ac_toofunny
Sometimes they run for the door so fast , that they leave skid marks.
That's so mean!     ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "ghost"
Quote from: "Keeper"
I only made the post Azhya because i wasnt sure why Jehovashs would go door to door. I do not know nothing of their religion. Good or bad, totally up to them who they want to worship.
I DO NOT judge people that way.
Jehovah's believe that when they die, they go into the ground.  When the end of the world happens, God will call forth 144,000 of his most faithful followers to Heaven. 
It is their belief that they must spread the word of God to as many people as possible. If they don't, they can actually be kicked out of their religion for being a non-believer. 
And yes, they are everywhere. I had a few of them hunting me down in South Korea and recently spotted a few in Mexico.
Correct. They also don't vote or fight in wars. A lot of them were killed for that in WW2.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
What the fuck is up with this idiotic, stupid fucking thread. It's a book of fucking fairytales people. There's more important fucking issues in the fucking world like what is my Daddy doing with that fucking golddigging cunt?
Do you stupid fucks believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny too?
The Easter Bunny is real. I know this because it posts here. It also seems to like my sense of humour so it must also have good taste.
 ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Sure, if you follow the bible word for word. Christianity is a personal matter. You are not a Christian just because you were submerged in water. I don't believe in that for once.
The word of God is not a cafeteria where you pick and choose what suits you..
That is what man in his rebellious natural state does..
You are right though, I know people who have declared their love of our Lord and been baptized, but have not repented.
Our God knows the person's heart and if they have truly been transformed. 1 Samuel 16:7
Until I see the video of God dictating the bible, I must remain open to all possibilities. Books can be changed, but how you treat people can't be mistaken. That's how I know that both of you are real.  ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Sure, if you follow the bible word for word. Christianity is a personal matter. You are not a Christian just because you were submerged in water. I don't believe in that for once.
The word of God is not a cafeteria where you pick and choose what suits you..
Actually, that is EXACTLY what it is.
			 
			
			
				IMHO, there is no God. Because if he made us in his image, what a flawed being he or she must be and that isn't any God I ever intend to accept.
There ain't no Holy Ghost and there ain't no burning Bush either....unless you are talking about that thing between Shen Li's legs.
Just jokes, Shen. Put down the meat cleaver. ac_razz
			
			
			
				I don't know if there is a god or not.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
I don't know if there is a god or not.
Well if he exists, I never met him and I never met his hippie son either. Just a lot of wishful thinkers hoping for the best when their number is up.
			 
			
			
				Even as a kid I always felt it was kind of dumb to believe there was an invisible man in the sky watching you. I do believe the spirits of our ancestors are up there somewhere watching over us though.
			
			
			
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Even as a kid I always felt it was kind of dumb to believe there was an invisible man in the sky watching you. I do believe the spirits of our ancestors are up there somewhere watching over us though.
I thought so too. Now there's a whole bunch of them. =P

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				I'm just keeping my options open is all.
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Annie"
Even as a kid I always felt it was kind of dumb to believe there was an invisible man in the sky watching you. I do believe the spirits of our ancestors are up there somewhere watching over us though.
I thought so too. Now there's a whole bunch of them. =P

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Haha those too
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
IMHO, there is no God. Because if he made us in his image, what a flawed being he or she must be and that isn't any God I ever intend to accept.
There ain't no Holy Ghost and there ain't no burning Bush either....unless you are talking about that thing between Shen Li's legs.
Just jokes, Shen. Put down the meat cleaver. ac_razz
I've sobered up, I'm OK now.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
The nazis called them 'bible students'. They got thrown into the concentration camps when they refused to fight or pledge allegiance to mr. hilter. Jehovah is just the name of God, so they're just God's witnesses. I think they mean 'witness' as in to tell people about him and not like spies or anything. ac_tongue
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
The nazis called them 'bible students'. They got thrown into the concentration camps when they refused to fight or pledge allegiance to mr. hilter. Jehovah is just the name of God, so they're just God's witnesses. I think they mean 'witness' as in to tell people about him and not like spies or anything. ac_tongue
All religious groups that did not bend their ideology to suit Nazism were persecuted weren't they easter bunny?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
The nazis called them 'bible students'. They got thrown into the concentration camps when they refused to fight or pledge allegiance to mr. hilter. Jehovah is just the name of God, so they're just God's witnesses. I think they mean 'witness' as in to tell people about him and not like spies or anything. ac_tongue
All religious groups that did not bend their ideology to suit Nazism were persecuted weren't they easter bunny?
I don't think the Nazis tolerated anyone who disagreed with them.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
The nazis called them 'bible students'. They got thrown into the concentration camps when they refused to fight or pledge allegiance to mr. hilter. Jehovah is just the name of God, so they're just God's witnesses. I think they mean 'witness' as in to tell people about him and not like spies or anything. ac_tongue
All religious groups that did not bend their ideology to suit Nazism were persecuted weren't they easter bunny?
I don't think the Nazis tolerated anyone who disagreed with them.
That is what I was trying to say..
Thank you easter bunny.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
All religious groups that did not bend their ideology to suit Nazism were persecuted weren't they easter bunny?
I don't think the Nazis tolerated anyone who disagreed with them.
That is what I was trying to say..
Thank you easter bunny.
 ac_smile
Okay.  ac_biggrin   
Gotta go for now. See ya later!  ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
I don't think the Nazis tolerated anyone who disagreed with them.
That is what I was trying to say..
Thank you easter bunny.
 ac_smile
Okay.  ac_biggrin   
Gotta go for now. See ya later!  ac_smile
Have a nice evening easter bunny..
Hopefully, we'll see you soon.
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				Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
I have two come to my house almost every month now, the same one comes each time. 
He caught me in the yard one day cleaning up, and seemed to enjoy the history I knew, and bible stuff. 
I have been doomed since with him bringing me pamphlets. 
They are really nice people the ones that have came here. 
Oh, Hitler didn't like them either, he sent maybe 2000 to death camps, and many more in prisons.
			 
			
			
				Never accept anything, or even talk to, a JW.  Once you do, you'll never get rid of 'em.
Their mission the world over is to convert non-followers.  They don't care about anything else, really...
			
			
			
				They stayed away for Decades, and passed our house by because they thought i was a devil, but my moms friend pointed me out as someone to talk with when she was leaving. 
I didn't even get to clean the drive off with them here.
			
			
			
				Now they will come around often.  You'll have to really offend them somehow, or they'll continue to come back...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
I have two come to my house almost every month now, the same one comes each time. 
He caught me in the yard one day cleaning up, and seemed to enjoy the history I knew, and bible stuff. 
I have been doomed since with him bringing me pamphlets. 
They are really nice people the ones that have came here. 
Oh, Hitler didn't like them either, he sent maybe 2000 to death camps, and many more in prisons.
I had some come to my house too Blue and yes they were nice.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Lucky Number 8"
Never accept anything, or even talk to, a JW.  Once you do, you'll never get rid of 'em.
Their mission the world over is to convert non-followers.  They don't care about anything else, really...
You got that right, the same ones have been showing up for a decade now. 
I'm not interested, but they keep preaching. It's alright with me right now, but they come at some bad times. 
I guess I can get some shrunken heads, and hang on the door, maybe an upside down pentagram, wear a hood  acc_devil
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blue"
Quote from: "Keeper"
The other day i had 2 Women knock on my door who were Jehovah's Witness followers, I listen to what they had to say then politely told them i was a christian and i wasnt interested.
im curious if they do this sort of thing all over the country? Do they do this in the USA also? I find it odd they have to go door to door "spreading the word of god"
What are your thoughts?
I have two come to my house almost every month now, the same one comes each time. 
He caught me in the yard one day cleaning up, and seemed to enjoy the history I knew, and bible stuff. 
I have been doomed since with him bringing me pamphlets. 
They are really nice people the ones that have came here. 
Oh, Hitler didn't like them either, he sent maybe 2000 to death camps, and many more in prisons.
I had some come to my house too Blue and yes they were nice.
I respect their zeal, they do seem faithful to their doctrine. I don't see how they can follow it, and the bible though.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
Quote from: "Lucky Number 8"
Never accept anything, or even talk to, a JW.  Once you do, you'll never get rid of 'em.
Their mission the world over is to convert non-followers.  They don't care about anything else, really...
You got that right, the same ones have been showing up for a decade now. 
I'm not interested, but they keep preaching. It's alright with me right now, but they come at some bad times. 
I guess I can get some shrunken heads, and hang on the door, maybe an upside down pentagram, wear a hood  acc_devil
The other factor that my husband and I are worried about is are they really who they say they are..
They could have criminal intentions and are using that religion to gain entry to our homes.
			 
			
			
				I rarely let them in, we talk on the porch usually.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
I rarely let them in, we talk on the porch usually.
My husband doesn't want me to even answer the door to male strangers.
			 
			
			
				You really shouldn't unless you know them, I read sometimes people force their way in. 
I tell my mom not to answer the door to unknown people unless I'm there, I usually have something for protection.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
You really shouldn't unless you know them, I read sometimes people force their way in. 
I tell my mom not to answer the door to unknown people unless I'm there, I usually have something for protection.
There have been instances in Calgary where people have entered homes using charity or religion as an excuse..
I won't answer the door anymore if strange men are there.
			 
			
			
				Woman here get their foot in while their partner comes in from the back sometimes. 
Never trust anyone that you don't know. I know it's sad being like that, but it's safer for you, and your family.
			
			
			
				We should respect others beliefs
			
			
			
				As long as they respect back, and there is a few which does not.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
As long as they respect back, and there is a few which does not.
I am a Christian, but I see no reason why I cannot live in harmony with religions I think are man made.
			 
			
			
				It's good to get along, but there is always someone who messes things up. I can live with people who can live with me :)
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
It's good to get along, but there is always someone who messes things up. I can live with people who can live with me :)
I am fine with live and let live too Blue.
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				Have not read all posts so don't know if this has been said
HBO is doing a SERIOUS expose on it this Sunday. Several top honchos have left it in disgust and are spilling their guts sbout how they play the game to keep people from leaving ... wiretaps etc etc ... illegal stuff .... but, as it is a beliefe system it has certain protections  
It is a cult ... not unlike the "other" cult that is doing such harm in the world .... yet get.s protection as though they were "real" belief systems
			
			
			
				Oh for sure CC, and how they do people who leave, and especially family is terrible. 
Some Mormon groups are the same, and Amish also.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc li tarte"
Have not read all posts so don't know if this has been said
HBO is doing a SERIOUS expose on it this Sunday. Several top honchos have left it in disgust and are spilling their guts sbout how they play the game to keep people from leaving ... wiretaps etc etc ... illegal stuff .... but, as it is a beliefe system it has certain protections  
It is a cult ... not unlike the "other" cult that is doing such harm in the world .... yet get.s protection as though they were "real" belief systems
I assume the "other cult" you mentioned is scientology? ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"
Have not read all posts so don't know if this has been said
HBO is doing a SERIOUS expose on it this Sunday. Several top honchos have left it in disgust and are spilling their guts sbout how they play the game to keep people from leaving ... wiretaps etc etc ... illegal stuff .... but, as it is a beliefe system it has certain protections  
It is a cult ... not unlike the "other" cult that is doing such harm in the world .... yet get.s protection as though they were "real" belief systems
I assume the "other cult" you mentioned is scientology? ac_biggrin
I wish i had the time and understanding to read up on Scientology, it sounds fascinating (raises eyebrow)
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc li tarte"
Have not read all posts so don't know if this has been said
HBO is doing a SERIOUS expose on it this Sunday. Several top honchos have left it in disgust and are spilling their guts sbout how they play the game to keep people from leaving ... wiretaps etc etc ... illegal stuff .... but, as it is a beliefe system it has certain protections  
It is a cult ... not unlike the "other" cult that is doing such harm in the world .... yet get.s protection as though they were "real" belief systems
I assume the "other cult" you mentioned is scientology? ac_biggrin
I wish i had the time and understanding to read up on Scientology, it sounds fascinating (raises eyebrow)
Oh do yourself a favor and make the time. It's fucking hilarious. You won't believe that grown and supposedly educated people could be that God damn stupid. ac_toofunny
			 
			
			
				
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Blue"
You got that right, the same ones have been showing up for a decade now. 
I'm not interested, but they keep preaching. It's alright with me right now, but they come at some bad times. 
I guess I can get some shrunken heads, and hang on the door, maybe an upside down pentagram, wear a hood  acc_devil
Signs of any sort don't seem to apply to JW's.  Trust me, I've tried!  Those signs only apply to other people.
I kid you not...  To stop these people from coming, you literally have to tell them to, "Get the fuck off my property, and never step foot on it again."  You must state this in a firm voice, to their face.
Nothing else, within the law, seems to work.
			 
			
			
				I actually signed up for a Scientology free course awhile back. It was about how to self heal emotional and health problems. After about the fourth page I said oh hell no and never went back. This was online. Don't do it, it's a cult!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc li tarte"
Have not read all posts so don't know if this has been said
HBO is doing a SERIOUS expose on it this Sunday. Several top honchos have left it in disgust and are spilling their guts sbout how they play the game to keep people from leaving ... wiretaps etc etc ... illegal stuff .... but, as it is a beliefe system it has certain protections  
It is a cult ... not unlike the "other" cult that is doing such harm in the world .... yet get.s protection as though they were "real" belief systems
The Jehovah's Witnesses cc li tarte?
I would like to see that too.
			 
			
			
				Do you guys get PBS in Canada?
			
			
			
				Yes we do.
			
			
			
				Telling a religious person you believe in Satan is not a deterrent BTW.  It's easier to convert a Satan worshiper than it is an Athiest because they already believe in God.
			
			
			
				If you substitute the words 'Satan the Devil' with the words 'psychological problem' it works almost every time. =))
			
			
			
				When I woke up this morning, guess what was in my mail slot in the door? A JW flyer! lolol
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Do you guys get PBS in Canada?
Yes, we do Azhya.