Title: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on March 29, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on March 29, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
"The signing of this bill doesn't seem like it's a step in the direction of equality and justice and liberty for all Americans," said Press Secretary Josh Earnest, noting that the administration's view was shared by the Republican mayor of Indianapolis and a "whole host of nonprofit and private-sector companies who have legitimate concerns about the impact of this legislation."
Earnest noted that a number of businesses and nonprofit organizations have said Gov. Mike Pence's decision to sign the measure into law has prompted them to reconsider doing business in the state. That includes the NCAA, which is hosting the men's basketball Final Four in Indianapolis.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 02:41:07 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 02:41:07 PM
Gov. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) can't seem to figure out why his state has been the focus of condemnation and boycotts after having passed a version of "religious freedom" legislation that already exists in 19 other states. Pointing out those states, Pence told a reporter from the Indianapolis Star, "I just can't account for the hostility that's been directed at our state."
We can. Pence's problem is that the 19 other laws were largely passed well before the recent and dramatic swing toward support for gay marriage — and after a similar bill was vetoed by the Republican governor of Arizona.
In 2011, support for same-sex marriage passed 50 percent in Gallup polling, the same year that New York's legislature passed a law allowing marriage in that state. New York was still at the front end of the wave of states approving gay marriage; to that point, the trend had mostly been the opposite. When the federal government passed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in 1993, a bill that made the same accommodations that are seen in Indiana's bill, a number of states echoed it. By 2003, 12 of the 19 states to which Pence referred had RFRA-like bills on the books. By the time the Supreme Court weighed in on two key gay marriage questions in June 2013, the total was 18 — only Mississippi had yet to pass its similar law.
Shortly before Mississippi's measure was passed, a national outcry arose over a bill that passed the legislature of Arizona. Ultimately, then-Gov. Jan Brewer (R) rejected that measure, after weeks of boycott threats from organizations and corporations concerned about being seen as friendly to a state that allowed businesses to deny service to gay couples.
Pence and the Indiana legislature did something similar to what those 19 states had done, but in a moment that included more scrutiny on gay issues and after public opinion had shifted away from blocking the rights of gay couples. Whether or not boycotts and outrage will extend to the other 19 states remains to be seen, but, by planting its stake in the ground at this moment, it's obvious why Indiana is already seeing such a backlash.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:02:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:02:35 PM
I guess thank you Azhya and gbb.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Don't announce your sexual orientation upon entering a store lest the owners not be wanting to serve straight people. ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:22:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:22:13 PM
Note to self:Quote from: "easter bunny"
Don't announce your sexual orientation upon entering a store lest the owners not be wanting to serve straight people. ac_rollseyes
Discrimination is terrible.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Agreed, but I'm a bit confused as to why the issue should even come up. Maybe if one orders a wedding cake or something it might happen, but then business owners should also have the freedom to show that they're jerks.Note to self:Quote from: "easter bunny"
Don't announce your sexual orientation upon entering a store lest the owners not be wanting to serve straight people. ac_rollseyes
Discrimination is terrible.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
Note to self:Quote from: "easter bunny"
Don't announce your sexual orientation upon entering a store lest the owners not be wanting to serve straight people. ac_rollseyes
Discrimination is terrible.
Frankly easter bunny, I am a little tired and only skimmed both articles.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
I don't know what to say about either article..Quote from: "Fashionista"
I guess thank you Azhya and gbb.
ac_smile
I don't care what two consenting adults, same sex or opposite sex, do behind closed doors. I also believe that lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders should not have to parade themselves. Straight folks don't do that. Your sexual preference is not entertainment like Mardi Gras. If it's so natural, then just let it be. I mind my own business and you mind your own. However, to turn them away because of their sexual preference is going backwards. It is disappointing.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 04:33:41 PM
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 04:33:41 PM
This is another example of the squeaky wheel.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:36:51 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:36:51 PM
I don't care what two consenting adults, same sex or opposite sex, do behind closed doors. I also believe that lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders should not have to parade themselves. Straight folks don't do that. Your sexual preference is not entertainment like Mardi Gras
Thank you! I'm tired of this as well.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Discrimination is terrible.
Frankly easter bunny,I am a little tired and only skimmed both articles.
ac_blush
That's all you need to do Fash. Same old game of tit for tat hair pulling.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
Agreed, but I'm a bit confused as to why the issue should even come up. Maybe if one orders a wedding cake or something it might happen, but then business owners should also have the freedom to show that they're jerks.Quote from: "easter bunny"
Frankly easter bunny,I am a little tired and only skimmed both articles.
ac_blush
That's all you need to do Fash. Same old game of tit for tat hair pulling.
I see easter bunny, thank you.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2015, 04:46:07 PM
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2015, 04:46:07 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought.Quote from: "Renee"
This is another example of the squeaky wheel.
Indiana Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Kevin Brinegar comments on SB 101, the Religious Freedom Restoration bill, becoming law today and the reaction to that:Quote
"In our eyes, the law is entirely unnecessary. The reactions to it are not unexpected or unpredicted; passing the law was always going to bring the state unwanted attention.
"Yet we are optimistic that the public overall will continue to look to Indiana as a place to come to do business, attend a convention or enjoy a sporting event. Indiana has shown time and time again – whether it's hosting the Super Bowl or working with companies to bring new jobs to the state – that it's full of individuals and businesses who are truly welcoming and hospitable.
"Businesses are open for business and want to continue to serve customers in Indiana and throughout the country. That's the message we are hearing from our members and want to communicate."//http://www.indianachamber.com/
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on March 29, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on March 29, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought. This is another example of the squeaky wheel.Quote from: "Renee"
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 29, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
ac_smile
I would like some of these for Easter:
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought. This is another example of the squeaky wheel.Quote from: "Renee"
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Who is Orval Faubus gbb?
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:52:50 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:52:50 PM
I don't care what two consenting adults, same sex or opposite sex, do behind closed doors. I also believe that lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders should not have to parade themselves. Straight folks don't do that. Your sexual preference is not entertainment like Mardi Gras
Thank you! I'm tired of this as well.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought. This is another example of the squeaky wheel.Quote from: "Renee"
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Who is Orval Faubus gbb?
Fash, I know you asked gbb but here's something on Orval Faubus by Wiki.
Orval Eugene Faubus (January 7, 1910 – December 14, 1994) was the 36th Governor of Arkansas, serving from 1955 to 1967. He is best known for his 1957 stand against the desegregation of the Little Rock School District during the Little Rock Crisis, in which he defied a unanimous decision of the United States Supreme Court by ordering the Arkansas National Guard to stop black students from attending Little Rock Central High School. In response to the governor's actions in Little Rock, jazz bassist and composer Charles Mingus recorded "Fables of Faubus" on his 1959 album Mingus Ah Um.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:58:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 04:58:22 PM
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Who is Orval Faubus gbb?
Fash, I know you asked gbb but here's something on Orval Faubus by Wiki.
Orval Eugene Faubus (January 7, 1910 – December 14, 1994) was the 36th Governor of Arkansas, serving from 1955 to 1967. He is best known for his 1957 stand against the desegregation of the Little Rock School District during the Little Rock Crisis, in which he defied a unanimous decision of the United States Supreme Court by ordering the Arkansas National Guard to stop black students from attending Little Rock Central High School. In response to the governor's actions in Little Rock, jazz bassist and composer Charles Mingus recorded "Fables of Faubus" on his 1959 album Mingus Ah Um.
Thank you Azhya, between yourself, Blue, Renee and now gbb, you have posted some interesting information on American history.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 29, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
ac_smile
I would like some of these for Easter:(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/31/03/44/3103447f56814d661d1540a6ebcb74fd.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/%20...%20cb74fd.jpg%22%3Ehttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/31/03/44/3103447f56814d661d1540a6ebcb74fd.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 05:04:10 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 05:04:10 PM
I would like some of these for Easter:(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/31/03/44/3103447f56814d661d1540a6ebcb74fd.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/%20...%20cb74fd.jpg%22%3Ehttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/31/03/44/3103447f56814d661d1540a6ebcb74fd.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Nice.
I like this, B. Truffles.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought. This is another example of the squeaky wheel.Quote from: "Renee"
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Unfortunately there is a big difference between being refused a wedding cake and pissing yourself because you are considered unworthy to use a public rest room.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
The truth of the matter is all this outrage doesn't really exist. All of this so-called outrage is mainly centered on the far left. This is mostly media contrived nonsense. The majority of Americans really couldn't give a crap enough to give it more than a passing thought. This is another example of the squeaky wheel.Quote from: "Renee"
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Unfortunately there is a big difference between being refused a wedding cake and pissing yourself because you are considered unworthy to use a public rest room.
I don't think anyone was saying they were the same Renee.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
Thank you Azhya, between yourself, Blue, Renee and now gbb, you have posted some interesting information on American history.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Well, thank you, Fash. I'm glad.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
Orval Faubus said the same thing in 1957
Unfortunately there is a big difference between being refused a wedding cake and pissing yourself because you are considered unworthy to use a public rest room.
I don't think anyone was saying they were the same Renee.
No they aren't the same, far from it. People's attitudes toward it aren't the same either. Much to the displeasure of the gay community it simply doesn't hold the same level of importance.
Sorry to bear the sad reality.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2015, 05:26:59 PM
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2015, 05:26:59 PM
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 05:27:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2015, 05:27:35 PM
Unfortunately there is a big difference between being refused a wedding cake and pissing yourself because you are considered unworthy to use a public rest room.
I don't think anyone was saying they were the same Renee.
No they aren't the same, far from it. People's attitudes toward it aren't the same either. Much to the displeasure of the gay community it simply doesn't hold the same level of importance.
Sorry to bear the sad reality.
It's not the same, so the outrage is not the same..
I feel most people can distinguish between the two.
Title: Re: New slogan for Indiana
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 06:09:13 PM
Post by: Renee on March 29, 2015, 06:09:13 PM
If it bears such little importance, then why did Indiana Republicans author and pass the law?Quote from: "Romero"
Because they are homophobic. Why else would anyone pass a law like that?