Our baby is only 8 months old and our current society is crashing down either economically or socially. I'm afraid that my child's future is worse than we have today. What should we do for our children to have better future than ours?
Our futures have been in decline over the last hundred years or more, the computer age the main reason. We werent meant to have it. I'll explain later. I am a neo-Ludite BTW. I accept technology but dont embrace it.
I would suggest teaching your children to be as self-sufficient as possible. That is what we are doing both for our children and ourselves. We have spent a lot of time teaching ourselves to hunt and process our own food, growing gardens, preserving food by canning and dehydrating, learning to sew, and making candles from animal fat. Maybe they will never be skills that you just HAVE to have, but you give yourself more options and better odds if you can take care of yourself.
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One of the wisest posts I have seen in a long time.
very unlikely we have to become hunter gatherers again. not anytime soon anyways. that would be more than a huge step backwards to wear animal skins and burn animal fat in log cabins. that's some doomsday prepper shit.
best way to secure a future for your children? buy a nice house with a suite or 2, pay almost all of it off so that your children have a place to live without a mortgage.
don't listen to the redneck hunters
anyone can shoot a head off a moose or plant a garden.
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See the Maurice Wilkes thread..Technology has a dark side not discussed that often...now the favoured tool of global enslavement. Lets start first with the basics.
"We weren't meant to have the computer age. I don't embrace technology. Technology has a dark side. Technology is the favoured tool of global enslavement."
Yet you use and enjoy technology just as much as anyone.
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Yet you use and enjoy technology just as much as anyone.
cant you read, I accept it, use it but dont embrace it. I understand it but I am not a slave to it..is that better. By the same token we wernt meant to have it as it was for miitary purposes but was leaked out and comercialized by the Americans/how convenient. Now its used for spying, hacking, listenning & watching our mov ements/messaging and other calls..,.etc etc etc. Bringing to mind project echelon. The 5 eyes as they its called.
Meanwhile those who are fighting this facist system use it as social media, as I am doing.
Yes I enjoy it in as much as It allows one to communicate ideas/thats it!
But to preach and extol the virtues of the computer age, sorry there pink'Boy
While I don't expect we will return to a frontier society, teaching self-sufficiency skills is always a good idea. You just never know when you'll need those skills.
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Yet you use and enjoy technology just as much as anyone.
cant you read, I accept it, use it but dont embrace it. I understand it but I am not a slave to it..is that better. By the same token we wernt meant to have it as it was for miitary purposes but was leaked out and comercialized by the Americans/how convenient. Now its used for spying, hacking, listenning & watching our mov ements/messaging and other calls..,.etc etc etc. Bringing to mind project echelon. The 5 eyes as they its called.
Meanwhile those who are fighting this facist system use it as social media, as I am doing.
Yes I enjoy it in as much as It allows one to communicate ideas/thats it!
Accepting it, using it and enjoying it is embracing it. You're not a slave? You wouldn't be able to go one day without it.
You embrace technology just as much as anyone. You're not using it any less or any differently than the rest of us.
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The best gift I can give to my children is to teach them to think for themselves. I give them a lot of opportunities to gain real life skills and confidence in their decision-making abilities. I teach them to question everything others assume and search and find out for themselves the truth, as best as they are able.
I believe that part of why we have ended up where we are, politically, is because our children are no longer taught to think as individuals. People are very easily led and manipulated. Being able to think for yourself will give you an advantage in any situation.
^^i agree jeferson
i think you may find interest in this article i stumbled upon searching about the powers that manipulate.
please let your children read what we are all subject to by others who hold positions in higher levels than ourselves.
http://www.co-intelligence.org/CIPol_democSocPwrAnal.html
"Stimulus-response manipulation: Psychologists, con men, and PR professionals have developed powerful technologies of manipulation that can cause people to act for reasons that are outside their control or awareness. People can think they are behaving freely and rationally when actually they are being heavily influenced by "
Economic power
Industrial or productive power to control production, resources and labor
Financial power to buy or control things with money or credit
Market power to influence consumption, production, prices, wages or other market conditions.
Governmental power
Legislative power to make the rules governing the acquisition, distribution and use of social power
Police power to enforce laws or the interests of powerholders
Judicial power to make judgments about the use and balance of social power
Regulatory power to supervise economic and political activities
Bureaucratic power to enable or resist the implementation of policies
Physical power
Physical force, violence and the threat of violence to coerce the behavior of others
Political power
Organizational power to coordinate the actions of many people
Propaganda power to influence public opinion, motivation and experience of reality
Media power
Media power to influence or control information and communication and people's ability to give and receive them
Knowledge power
Knowledge to comprehend circumstances, to predict and plan, and to create effects - particularly by knowing how to use other forms of power
Personal power
Leadership to motivate and coordinate other people
Persuasion to mobilize people's awareness and opinions
Energy and initiative to begin and carry out activities
Intelligence to comprehend meaning and solve problems
Technical skill to manipulate physical resources and barriers
Love to encourage people to drop their defenses, to respond and grow
Integrity to inspire reciprocal honesty, loyalty and support
Ambition to motivate the accumulation and use of social power
Strategic and tactical skill to create and utilize situations to best advantage
Inspirational ability to motivate people and bring out their best
Situational power
Security to give bargaining power & freedom to maneuver
Advantageous position from which to use other forms of power
Invisibility and secrecy to limit others' ability to interfere
Cultural and institutional power (can be used but not possessed)
Social institutions and traditions define the context in which power is exercised
Laws and constitutions define the limits and channels of power
Ideas provide a focus around which to mobilize people, and a direction to go
Public opinion constitutes the extent of popular support or opposition
Thanks a lot for the suggestions and this made a little ruckus but I hope it won't make any problems.
I don't blame technology as the culprit in making our society to deteriorate. I think Jeffersonian has a point that many individuals, but not all, today don't think for themselves and just swallow what the media tells us. I watched the documentary the Big Fix, about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and it makes me wonder why majority of the people believe what they were told even though they are not sure whether it is the truth or not.
I will try to teach my child to scrutinize what is good and what is bad in anything that he does. Whether it might be eating at a fast food or cooking his own food to buying a house or just renting a room.
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I don't blame technology as the culprit in making our society to deteriorate. I think Jeffersonian has a point that many individuals, but not all, today don't think for themselves and just swallow what the media tells us. I watched the documentary the Big Fix, about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and it makes me wonder why majority of the people believe what they were told even though they are not sure whether it is the truth or not.
I will try to teach my child to scrutinize what is good and what is bad in anything that he does. Whether it might be eating at a fast food or cooking his own food to buying a house or just renting a room.
Technology in itself is benign silly its the people behind it. We are not able to put intrinsic and innate intelligence to work anymore as we are forced to delegate it to such machines [in schools]. The system doesn't allow for human evolvement..its been removed. sounds obscure doesn't it, well I'm not doing it on purpose it is the simplest way I can explain it. Man is devolving and abdicating intelligence. Such is our future. Human evolvement must happen intrinsically indeed organically to fulfill genuine desires to succeed.
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You have missed my point. I'm not advocating turning back the pages of time but to ask serious questions as to where we are going.
I can't say I don't enjoy technology because I do. However, I also know how to be self sufficient and provide for my family. If you live too far away from the land, you wouldn't be able to learn quickly enough if there is a breakdown of society.
thank you
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I don't blame technology as the culprit in making our society to deteriorate. I think Jeffersonian has a point that many individuals, but not all, today don't think for themselves and just swallow what the media tells us. I watched the documentary the Big Fix, about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and it makes me wonder why majority of the people believe what they were told even though they are not sure whether it is the truth or not.
I will try to teach my child to scrutinize what is good and what is bad in anything that he does. Whether it might be eating at a fast food or cooking his own food to buying a house or just renting a room.
Technology in itself is benign silly its the people behind it. We are not able to put intrinsic and innate intelligence to work anymore as we are forced to delegate it to such machines [in schools]. The system doesn't allow for human evolvement..its been removed. sounds obscure doesn't it, well I'm not doing it on purpose it is the simplest way I can explain it. Man is devolving and abdicating intelligence. Such is our future. Human evolvement must happen intrinsically indeed organically to fulfill genuine desires to succeed.
I somewhat agree with you because students nowadays rely on spell check of the software they are using when they are writing. They don't even bother checking the spelling themselves because they think that the computer knows better. I guess we need to limit our children with the use of technology and only give them the devices that are really necessary.
The fault is the system itself not the parents. Parents only follow what is expected of them. One cant love their language and its usage unless its taught correctly which includes spelling of course. Tyre instead of Tire for example. By default slang is thrown in as acceptable usage without an option to understand where it's coming from. We need to teach our children to discriminate good from bad, make good choices in life, to question the origins of our mores [this includes language] and of course the keystone, ..DEBATE.
Oddly enough some of the best Classic English Schools are found in India for example. An environment where there is a genuine love for the English language and cultural heritage.