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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Henry on November 05, 2012, 08:39:24 PM

Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Henry on November 05, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I'm not surprised because our society today don't have equality. I'm not a communist because that government is corrupt as any form of government. I don't envy those workers who have those kind of ridiculous salary because I'm happy with my eager income. I think this is the problem with some of us because we don't become contented with what we earn but we want more.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Securious on November 06, 2012, 01:50:30 PM
and corrupt
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: jeffersonian on November 06, 2012, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Henry"I'm not surprised because our society today don't have equality. I'm not a communist because that government is corrupt as any form of government. I don't envy those workers who have those kind of ridiculous salary because I'm happy with my eager income. I think this is the problem with some of us because we don't become contented with what we earn but we want more.

Pampering and overpaying unskilled these labourers hurts the nation in the long run and drives inflation. Companies pass on he cost of these glorified warehouse wokers high wages to all of us.



In Eastern countries if you want to make a good wage you must have a skill that's in demand. The Western world has become unsustainable and will be forced to change in the next decade or so. I don't see much future for people with such a false sense of entitlement if they are unwilling to adapt to the new reality.


You are so right. I think that unions have served their purpose. I absolutely agree that workers should not be abused as they have been in times past. But unions have a stranglehold on employers and even too much power over their members. Let's not even start with how much illegitimate political power they wield.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
It is unfair to categorize all workers in any occupation as lazy..



There must be a good number of people performing that job who take pride in what they do.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Romero on November 08, 2012, 02:55:10 AM
Yes! That!  :)
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Zetsu on November 08, 2012, 11:29:23 AM
I gotta agree union jobs are rediculous, my brother works in a prison and his starting wage is even higher than Toronto Metro Police, even he's been telling me all the time they're overpaided.  Considering so many Canadians are working everyday just to see their tax wasted on these government union staff makes me think how unefficient our government is.  How is this justified?
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2012, 01:08:52 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"It is unfair to categorize all workers in any occupation as lazy..



There must be a good number of people performing that job who take pride in what they do.

No, it's pretty accurate. It is a job a retarded monkey could do. They couldn't find any, so they hire people like EU instead. ;)


Have you ever worked a day as a longshoreman? Have you worked as a provincial civil servant as I have most of my working life?



I give my all every day at work and I don't make an inflated salary as you think I do..I could make more in the private sector..

I stay where I am because it allows me the flexibility to be with my children...I am not a snivel serpant.



I don't know what has gotten into you lately, but you are not the same person you used to be..You had my back when I was being dumped on from all sides and I will never forget that. I admired you because you were a young person displaying principled tenacity...where is that girl?



You invite people here then insult them. Even ones that are not members are ridiculed. I don't who Hornung is, but I assume the reason you and Gary Oak post high school level insults about him is based on past acrimony on Vancouver Forum.



What irks me the most are the shenanigans with changing posts, handles and signatures. If you don't want anyone to post freely here then shut down this forum and get a blog. If you continue to do this then I'm afraid you leave me no alternative but to leave as well.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Frost on November 09, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Unskilled means dangerous in that business, the injuries alone should stop the practice if unskilled.

I have been in three unions in my life, it seems the bigger they are the less they care about the workers.

They become part of the , and a bit much politically motivated.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: "Blue"Unskilled means dangerous in that business, the injuries alone should stop the practice if unskilled.

I have been in three unions in my life, it seems the bigger they are the less they care about the workers.

They become part of the , and a bit much politically motivated.

I disagree with Li labelling jobs she has never done.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Frost on November 09, 2012, 02:34:00 PM
I'm not familiar with the industry so I can only speculate.

But the ones I have been in I know a little .

Paper workers union, Carpenters union, and the UAW, the worst of the three.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
I am on my lunch break now Li..



I'm not surfing the web while being paid.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Securious on November 09, 2012, 07:03:40 PM
Please leave we would all be happy if you did. Oh and BTW this is the most Liberal Forum you will find  on these topics. A Libertarian blog-style upsets you doesnt it pinkBoy. If you dont like the candour go, follow your heart and bugger-off.



QUOTE:"If you don't want anyone to post freely here then shut down this forum and get a blog. If you continue to do this then I'm afraid you leave me no alternative but to leave as well......."



Your words pinkBoy.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Securious on November 10, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
You are bombastic, so full of yourself, you're not suitable for Union work. You have an enomous amount of time on your hands...ever work? No wonder you are on line all the time and on company time to boot we see. You couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery, EUrethra, and you know it you lazy, good for nothing barstool.

Fascinated with this forum we see,bored with the trash at the other one?



NO! You grow a pair!



Take a hike we dont like you, now run along boy.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Obvious Li on November 10, 2012, 10:22:21 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"[b]It is unfair to categorize all workers in any occupation as lazy..

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There must be a good number of people performing that job who take pride in what they do.





i don't know you and this is not personal (per se) but UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10.....there are days i wouldn't mind paying someone extra if they did a decent job but being in a govt union automatically means you will become a nasty, discourteous, ignorant, arrogant asshole when dealing with the people that pay your salary.......if i was king for a day the problem would be resolved post haste.....



oh by the way Shen...i was Korean in a past life...so there
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Securious on November 11, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: "Blue"I'm not familiar with the industry so I can only speculate.

But the ones I have been in I know a little .

Paper workers union, Carpenters union, and the UAW, the worst of the three.




All top union bosses are Masonic with no interest in workers' welfare at all.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2012, 10:11:12 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"[b]It is unfair to categorize all workers in any occupation as lazy..

[/b]


There must be a good number of people performing that job who take pride in what they do.



Quotei don't know you and this is not personal (per se) but UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10.....there are days i wouldn't mind paying someone extra if they did a decent job but being in a govt union automatically means you will become a nasty, discourteous, ignorant, arrogant asshole when dealing with the people that pay your salary.......if i was king for a day the problem would be resolved post haste.....



oh by the way Shen...i was Korean in a past life...so there

I am a unionized government worker..



It is unfair and hurtful to say that about us.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2012, 01:00:01 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10

Utter nonsense. How could you abhor our teachers, postal workers, police, fire fighters, government workers and nurses so much? These are tough jobs that require the highest skills. They serve and protect admirably.



You're unemployed and they're paying you to sit on your ass!
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10

Utter nonsense. How could you abhor our teachers, postal workers, police, fire fighters, government workers and nurses so much? These are tough jobs that require the highest skills. They serve and protect admirably.



You're unemployed and they're paying you to sit on your ass!

Thank you Romero for defending me. :D
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2012, 01:11:09 AM
My pleasure! Obvious Li obviously has insecurity and jealousy issues. He could only dream of being an important, hard worker.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Obvious Li on November 12, 2012, 03:31:52 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10

Utter nonsense. How could you abhor our teachers, postal workers, police, fire fighters, government workers and nurses so much? These are tough jobs that require the highest skills. They serve and protect admirably.



You're unemployed and they're paying you to sit on your ass!




yo yo yo..homero.....well that's just one of the differences between us.....i was a boss all my career so i had to deal with these slugs......furthermore i have a few years experience in dealing with govt. (unionized) employees.....so i can rightly and justifiably call it like i experienced it......



i could dissect each and every one of the positions you mentioned above and show you how non-unionized workers could do a better job at less cost...but you couldn't understand it any way......



suffice to say the next time you need a cop lets hope you don't get one of the 1/3rd. of them that are off on maternity leave or stress leave or full pay because someone left a girlie magazine laying on their desk........hahahaha ......get rid of them all
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2012, 03:35:09 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"UNIONS ARE EVIL and unionized workers are evil, lazy, overpaid, spineless slugs....for government unions (teachers, posties, federal gvt. employees, rcmp, provincial etc etc) you can multiply that by a factor of 10

Utter nonsense. How could you abhor our teachers, postal workers, police, fire fighters, government workers and nurses so much? These are tough jobs that require the highest skills. They serve and protect admirably.



You're unemployed and they're paying you to sit on your ass!




yo yo yo..homero.....well that's just one of the differences between us.....i was a boss all my career so i had to deal with these slugs......furthermore i have a few years experience in dealing with govt. (unionized) employees.....so i can rightly and justifiably call it like i experienced it......



i could dissect each and every one of the positions you mentioned above and show you how non-unionized workers could do a better job at less cost...but you couldn't understand it any way......



suffice to say the next time you need a cop lets hope you don't get one of the 1/3rd. of them that are off on maternity leave or stress leave or full pay because someone left a girlie magazine laying on their desk........hahahaha ......get rid of them all

I'm a slug...thank you.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Obvious Li on November 12, 2012, 03:39:21 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Utter nonsense. How could you abhor our teachers, postal workers, police, fire fighters, government workers and nurses so much? These are tough jobs that require the highest skills. They serve and protect admirably.



You're unemployed and they're paying you to sit on your ass!




yo yo yo..homero.....well that's just one of the differences between us.....i was a boss all my career so i had to deal with these slugs......furthermore i have a few years experience in dealing with govt. (unionized) employees.....so i can rightly and justifiably call it like i experienced it......



i could dissect each and every one of the positions you mentioned above and show you how non-unionized workers could do a better job at less cost...but you couldn't understand it any way......



suffice to say the next time you need a cop lets hope you don't get one of the 1/3rd. of them that are off on maternity leave or stress leave or full pay because someone left a girlie magazine laying on their desk........hahahaha ......get rid of them all

I'm a slug...thank you.

lol....i told you it was nothing personal...i'm sure your a super person who loves her job and just wants to do the right thing......i have no problem with that......however, in general unions and union management and employees are all (and more) of the things i said...



by the way..what time zone are you in....it,s 2:39 in Dog River
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2012, 12:35:19 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




yo yo yo..homero.....well that's just one of the differences between us.....i was a boss all my career so i had to deal with these slugs......furthermore i have a few years experience in dealing with govt. (unionized) employees.....so i can rightly and justifiably call it like i experienced it......



i could dissect each and every one of the positions you mentioned above and show you how non-unionized workers could do a better job at less cost...but you couldn't understand it any way......



suffice to say the next time you need a cop lets hope you don't get one of the 1/3rd. of them that are off on maternity leave or stress leave or full pay because someone left a girlie magazine laying on their desk........hahahaha ......get rid of them all

I'm a slug...thank you.

lol....i told you it was nothing personal...i'm sure your a super person who loves her job and just wants to do the right thing......i have no problem with that......however, in general unions and union management and employees are all (and more) of the things i said...



by the way..what time zone are you in....it,s 2:39 in Dog River

Same time as Saskatchewan until spring.
Title: Re: Unionized Longshoreman Are Unskilled And Overpaid
Post by: EU on December 11, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: "Securious"
Quote from: "Blue"I'm not familiar with the industry so I can only speculate.

But the ones I have been in I know a little .

Paper workers union, Carpenters union, and the UAW, the worst of the three.




All top union bosses are Masonic




Of course they are Rand/Securious/Sherlock/Doc Watson/ Pork Chop and the multitude of other handles you use to play your stupid little game...everyone in any position of power in your mind is Masonic...even the the lil old bake sale ladies at the Rebekah Lodge...hell CC is probably one of em too...



But seriously Rand, it's good to have you back, I got 1000's of PM's all of them wondering how you might be filling those empty days of doom and gloom and conspiracy without your 24/7 soapbox here at MB. Unfortunately you and Shin Li being a mod didn't last more than a week or two, for the life of me I can't figure out why and then you were banned, that was disappointing especially to see you banned because I know it seemed a bit Dr Strangelove with you yourself on the ban button...then all of a sudden you were gone...ohh ohh maybe shouldn't have used the doomsday button quite so much huh?



But you and Shin Li...you two as allies...that's the best comedic relief this board have ever see and you're both right, there is a conspiracy, the most righteous conspiracy of all conspiracies: Working people are trying to take over the world and on the front lines fighting for the lives of all workers are Organized Working People, organized groups who are bright enough to know that when it comes to dealing with the New World Order of Kinder Morgan/Union Carbide/Shell Oil or even Coca Cola you better get it in writing exactly what they are going to pay you and how you will be treated. It's called a contract and if you have any brains at all, you'll negotiate a good one.



The greatest nations on earth in terms of where people seem to want to live and or immigrate have a large contingent of Unionized workers, look it up, America, Canada, Germany, England, Australia, New Zealand, Scandanavia...it's where workers of the world want to go and generally that's because back home they get treated like shit and make garbage wages.



Listen you get what you pay for and in any group of people, union or non union, it's human nature, there will be lazy people fckin the dog but it's up to the majority and or the leader, to tell that person to get off their ass and let's get er done...happens all the time where I work, nobody pulls any punches, trust me. Not sure where you all work.



And this stems from two things: A) I ain't pullin nobody along with me, I believe in equal opportunity, man or women, get in there and get dirty if you have to and B) Any crew will work extra hard and do extra work if they complete the job and then you cut em lose, but pay them the full eight...you wanna see a crew start to hustle if you dangle that carrot? Pile the work up and show thew the light at the end of the tunnel. Common down to the beach for a day...just stay outta the fckin way or you'll get killed.



Numerous studies have shown any job...in a chair or climbing stairs... after 6 hours, productivity and concentration wanes dramatically (most accidents occur then too)...so no wonder these Chinese made products are garbage. They're all half asleep makin em.



The Economist Intelligence Unit's (EIU) most recent global liveability report[1] shows cities in Canada, Australia, Austria, Finland and New Zealand as the ideal destinations, thanks to a widespread availability of goods and services, low personal risk, and an effective infrastructure.