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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: cc on April 16, 2015, 07:47:32 PM

Title: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: cc on April 16, 2015, 07:47:32 PM
A very good take in it that exactly fits what we see now in the West



The concept of Muslim immigration began with Islam's prophet. Soon after Muhammad arrived to Yathrib (Medina) together with his close friend and father of his wife Aisha, Abu Bakr, they were joined by a ring of other friends and followers, known in Islamic history as "Companions." They formed in Medina the first body of Muslim immigrants in history and very soon changed the face of Medina, making it the city of the victorious Islam. Immigration transformed Muslims from weak and scattered groups of individuals loyal to their religious leader, into a consolidated army, then a united community and finally, into a socio-religious political state. If Muhammad and his group had never immigrated to Yathrib in 622 AD, there would never have been any Islamic social, economic and political expansion.



Muslims learned and remembered this lesson, and since then the concept of Hijrah- Immigration- as a means of supplanting the native population and reaching the position of power became a well-developed doctrine in Islam. Immigration in Islam is not a Western liberal romance about how the newcomers gratefully search for opportunities for a better life in liberty and offer their talents and loyalty to the benefit of their new homeland. Immigration as Islam sees it is an instrument of Islamic expansionism that employs religious and ethnic separatism in order to gain special status and privilege, then subvert, subdue, and subjugate non-Muslim societies and pave the way for their total Islamization and implementation of Shari'ah law.



The main principle for a Muslim community in a non-Muslim country is that it must be separate and distinct. Already in the Charter of Medina, Muhammad outlined the basic rule for Muslims who emigrate to non-Muslim land, i.e., they must form a separate body, keeping their own laws and making the host country comply with them:



(3) The Quraysh emigrants according to their present custom shall pay the bloodwit within their number and shall redeem their prisoners with the kindness and justice common among believers.



Muslims from the beginning made it clear that they were going to live by their own laws.





Y.K. CHERSON
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: cc on April 16, 2015, 07:48:55 PM
Further ....



Muhammad's teachings forbid Muslims to immigrate to a non-Muslim country if they pursue the goal of their own personal gain or pleasure.



But if they immigrate with the ultimate goal of spreading Islam and making it victorious, or at least this is a part of the reason for their immigration, then they are allowed both pleasure and personal gain.



A Muslim immigrant should not integrate with the host society, but if his stay depends on showing some kind of integration to the host non-Muslim society, then he is permitted to demonstrate a fake  integration, only in appearance and only temporarily, until the goal of subduing and the Islamization of this host society is achieved.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: cc on April 16, 2015, 07:52:26 PM
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Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Thank you for posting that cc la femme..



It's a lot to read, so I only skimmed over it.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: easter bunny on April 16, 2015, 08:58:11 PM
The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: cc on April 16, 2015, 09:36:57 PM
This is about Mo's orders for his followers. There are "some" good people / bad islamics out there who do not follow his orders .... at least not until numbers grow and fundies give direct orders as to how to act.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"This is about Mo's orders for his followers. There are "some" good people / bad islamics out there.

I see cc la femme.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: easter bunny on April 16, 2015, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno

They have a much better chance of being fine when they live in a country like Canada where the laws are secular, but as soon as the laws change to what their religion dictates then the men gradually get more rights than the women until it ends up like Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The problem with Islam is that the culture treats women badly so their kids get all kinds of psychiatric disorders, and the more sick they get the worse the women get treated. It's a vicious cycle.

All I know is the lady I work with seems very normal..



I only met her children for a very short term, but they seemed fine.

 ac_dunno

They have a much better chance of being fine when they live in a country like Canada where the laws are secular, but as soon as the laws change to what their religion dictates then the men gradually get more rights than the women until it ends up like Saudi Arabia.

I am sorry easter bunny, I know so very little about the Islamic religion.

 ac_blush
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: easter bunny on April 16, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I am sorry easter bunny, I know so very little about the Islamic religion.

 ac_blush

There's a lot to know but you can get an idea by looking at the divorce laws. A man only has to say "I divorce you" three times while a woman has to go to a Sharia court (run by a man) and prove that she is being neglected (cc might be able to elaborate here), which can be really hard to do. Women also have to pay more money to the court and their word is only worth half that of the husband's. It's the ultimate good ol' boys club.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: RW on April 16, 2015, 10:00:29 PM
I heard a woman just has to say it three times.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times.

The lawyers must have a hard time making ends meet. About the only good thing about the Muddle East.ac_dance
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: cc on April 16, 2015, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times
You been schmoosin with Querky lately? That sounds like what he might believe and say
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: RW on April 16, 2015, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times
You been schmoosin with Querky lately?

I guess the person who told me got it backwards and not, it was't Romero.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: easter bunny on April 16, 2015, 11:11:31 PM
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times.

Only the men get to do that. Here's a sample:



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Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2015, 11:14:12 PM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "RW"I heard a woman just has to say it three times.

Only the men get to do that. Here's a sample:



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Too funny.....or sad.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: cc on April 17, 2015, 01:22:44 AM
Funny. So far not even a mention of the well detailed OP "The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings" -  (islam dictates and carefully instructs how to slowly take over non Islamic lands)



Maybe the write-up is too long?





Heard an interesting one tonight. "We got through the cold war with good luck and the fact that no one wanted to push the button" ...... "As to today's and tomorrows enemy ... it WANTS desperately to push the button"
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2015, 01:31:18 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Funny. So far not even a mention of the well detailed OP "The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings"



Maybe the write-up is too long?





Heard an interesting one tonight. "We got through the cold war with good luck and no one wanted to push the button" ...... "As to today's and tomorrows enemy ... they WANT to push the button"

Communism was/is a scary ideology. Islam makes it look absolutely humane.
Title: Re: THE GOAL OF MUSLIM IMMIGRATION ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS
Post by: Rambo Wong on April 17, 2015, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"This is about Mo's orders for his followers. There are "some" good people / bad islamics out there who do not follow his orders .... at least not until numbers grow and fundies give direct orders as to how to act.

Still being a racist, Islamophobic, fucked in the head twirlybrained, crap n' drool, moron fruitcake cyberbully cc la femme.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: RW on April 17, 2015, 01:58:00 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Heard an interesting one tonight. "We got through the cold war with good luck and the fact that no one wanted to push the button" ...... "As to today's and tomorrows enemy ... it WANTS desperately to push the button"

That desperation is palpable and it scares the shit out of me.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Leopardsocks on April 17, 2015, 02:09:28 AM
I think that comment is somewhat melodramatic and unfounded.



The reality is that western governments have more than enough firepower to obliterate radical muslim if pushed hard enough.



To think that islam is not aware of this would be somewhat irrational.



Let's not lose sight of their military capability, which is to say, minuscule in relative terms. Their biggest asset is subterfuge and sabotage. In a front on military action, they would be swept aside with consumate ease, as witnessed in Iraq and Afghanistan.



I do not fear islam. I fear our government NOT fearing islam.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2015, 02:12:15 AM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"I think that comment is somewhat melodramatic and unfounded.



The reality is that western governments have more than enough firepower to obliterate radical muslim if pushed hard enough.



To think that islam is not aware of this would be somewhat irrational.



Let's not lose sight of their military capability, which is to say, minuscule in relative terms. Their biggest asset is subterfuge and sabotage. In a front on military action, they would be swept aside with consumate ease, as witnessed in Iraq and Afghanistan.



I do not fear islam. I fear our government NOT fearing islam.

Haven't you heard Sox, it's a religion of peace. Anyone who disputes the  peaceful nature of this head chopping ideology is an Islamophobe.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Leopardsocks on April 17, 2015, 02:14:35 AM
And I am, indeed, an islamaphobe, and will never shy away from making that perfectly clear. Even to muslims.



I like to regard myself as non-racist. That does not mean I cannot criticise them.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2015, 02:19:13 AM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"And I am, indeed, an islamaphobe, and will never shy away from making that perfectly clear. Even to muslims.



I like to regard myself as non-racist. That does not mean I cannot criticise them.

Equating opposition to Islam with racism is so disingenuous. It's just an ideology and in my opinion, a barbaric one at that.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: RW on April 17, 2015, 02:20:57 AM
Islam isn't a race so hating Muslims wouldn't make you a racist Leo.  



Now would you consider yourself a bigot perhaps?
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Leopardsocks on April 17, 2015, 03:25:56 AM
Point taken, and you are well aware that I hold that view. However, the leftards tend to lump it all under the same category, so to avoid confusion...
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Renee on April 17, 2015, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"I think that comment is somewhat melodramatic and unfounded.



The reality is that western governments have more than enough firepower to obliterate radical muslim if pushed hard enough.



To think that islam is not aware of this would be somewhat irrational.



Let's not lose sight of their military capability, which is to say, minuscule in relative terms. Their biggest asset is subterfuge and sabotage. In a front on military action, they would be swept aside with consumate ease, as witnessed in Iraq and Afghanistan.



I do not fear islam. I fear our government NOT fearing islam.


I don't think it's all that melodramatic or unfounded to say that the enemy is more than willing to push the button. Remember we are not talking about rational people here. We are talking about individuals afflicted with religious fanaticism. To expect them to behave in accordance with the same social rules you or I adhere to is foolish in the extreme.

There is a sizable difference in ideological behaviour between Islam in general and radical Islam. Radical Islam is owned and operated by nutjobs whose entire reason for being is to die in the service of the prophet. They also do not follow the same rules of engagement that we follow. This is a force that uses intimidation and fear to impose their will on everything from their opponents to the general population that they live amongst. Sure the western powers have the conventional and nuclear ability to "obliterate" them but at what cost? This is an enemy that doesn't declare itself as a conventional target. When the going gets tough for them, they simply melt into the general population of whatever shit hole country or territory they occupy. Just like what we faced in Vietnam, you have a fighting force that cannot be distinguished from the civilian population. The cost in innocent lives alone required to "obliterate" all of radical or militant Islam would be staggering to put it mildly. It would make the nukes dropped on Japan look like minor blips on the historical time line. AND most troubling of all is the fact that the enemy knows we do not have the resolve for such an action BUT I truly believe that THEY do.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2015, 08:57:52 AM
Quote from: "RW"Islam isn't a race so hating Muslims wouldn't make you a racist Leo.  



Now would you consider yourself a bigot perhaps?

Hating Christianity or Islam is not racist.
Title: Re: The Goal of islamic immigration - According to Mo's Teachings
Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
Quote from: "Renee"


Radical Islam is owned and operated by nutjobs whose entire reason for being is to die in the service of the prophet.

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