Title: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 27, 2015, 11:16:01 PM
Post by: easter bunny on April 27, 2015, 11:16:01 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: chuck wagon on April 27, 2015, 11:20:58 PM
Post by: chuck wagon on April 27, 2015, 11:20:58 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 27, 2015, 11:33:47 PM
Post by: easter bunny on April 27, 2015, 11:33:47 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: chuck wagon on April 28, 2015, 12:08:36 AM
Post by: chuck wagon on April 28, 2015, 12:08:36 AM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 12:38:32 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 12:38:32 AM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 12:56:41 AM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 12:56:41 AM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 01:33:33 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 01:33:33 AM
Hey. Billybob and his sweety pay 15 cents on the dollarQuote from: "cc la femme"
You mean Bill Clinton?
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 02:52:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 02:52:49 AM
The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well they decided to repeat it with Nepal. I still have no idea who pocketed the money I donated, or what happened to the money the government matched. It pisses me off to this day that I could have been so stupid.Quote from: "easter bunny"
My husband and I avoid large charities that spend a high percentage of donations on overhead and salaries easter bunny..
This also applies to where we fellowship..
We avoid large multi-million dollar structures with bloated pastoral and church staff.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
Bingo!!Hey. Billybob and his sweety pay 15 cents on the dollarQuote from: "cc la femme"
You mean Bill Clinton?
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Hey. Billybob and his sweety pay 15 cents on the dollarQuote from: "cc la femme"
What do you mean cc la femme?
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:40:37 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:40:37 PM
And that's with 100s of millions coming in from unsavory cohorts and their countries around the world .... including a Canadian scammer "friend " who collected big time for them quite recently ... then sold his company to Putin Inc.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
I mean that Bill & Hill's self-serving scam "Foundation" has paid about 10 - 15 cents out for every dollar that came inQuote from: "cc la femme"
And that's with 100s of millions coming in from unsavory cohorts and their countries around the world
Oh I see cc la femme..
That is very unfortunate, but also a reminder of why my husband and I generally avoid large charities..
We don't have unlimited resources, so we need to make sure we use what we have to give wisely.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:45:57 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:45:57 PM
The size itself is not necessarily the most relevant factor - It's the "ethic" of the people running it and operational efficiency
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
good plan - I wish everyone checked out who they give to as most have terrible payout recordsQuote from: "cc la femme"
I feel people want to believe that is not the case cc la femme..
They want to feel they are helping people in need.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:49:36 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 03:49:36 PM
Haiti was another Billary / Hillary scam that really went bad
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Renee on April 28, 2015, 03:53:56 PM
Post by: Renee on April 28, 2015, 03:53:56 PM
I mean that Bill & Hill's self-serving scam "Foundation" has paid about 10 - 15 cents out for every dollar that came inQuote from: "cc la femme"
And that's with 100s of millions coming in from unsavory cohorts and their countries around the world .... including a Canadian scammer "friend " who collected big time for them quite recently ... then sold his company to Putin Inc.
Well in all fairness cc the Clintons were all but broke when the left the White House so they needed the money.
Obviously Bill squandered all his money while in office on chubby chicks and barbecue.
Well, I guess he could have spent it on worse things.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
I realize that - but itQuote from: "cc la femme"is a cruel world out there .. especially when one can live like kings on other's well-intended donations
Haiti was another Billary / Hillary scam that really went bad
It is cruel that some very greedy people use human suffering to build their wealth..
Most people accept on faith that a charity really is using their donations for what they think it will be used for.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 06:11:22 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 06:11:22 PM
You got me. Clearly I need to apply more fairness for sleazy crooks and scammersI mean that Bill & Hill's self-serving scam "Foundation" has paid about 10 - 15 cents out for every dollar that came inQuote from: "cc la femme"
And that's with 100s of millions coming in from unsavory cohorts and their countries around the world .... including a Canadian scammer "friend " who collected big time for them quite recently ... then sold his company to Putin Inc.
Well in all fairness cc the Clintons were all but broke when the left the White House so they needed the money.ac_toofunny
Obviously Bill squandered all his money while in office on chubby chicks and barbecue.ac_dunno
Well, I guess he could have spent it on worse things.ac_umm
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 06:55:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 06:55:15 PM
I mean that Bill & Hill's self-serving scam "Foundation" has paid about 10 - 15 cents out for every dollar that came inQuote from: "cc la femme"
And that's with 100s of millions coming in from unsavory cohorts and their countries around the world .... including a Canadian scammer "friend " who collected big time for them quite recently ... then sold his company to Putin Inc.
Bill Clinton has become as money hungry as Gene Simmons since leaving office. I still liked him as president.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 06:56:15 PM
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 06:56:15 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
By all means check the pay out record of charities but expect them to build endowments, require staff and have administrative overhead.Quote from: "RW"
I was speaking about Bill and Hillary Clinton specifically.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: WideEyeStupid on April 28, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
Post by: WideEyeStupid on April 28, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
Personally, If 70% of donations doesn't reach the people that need them then I usually don't donate.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 08:59:29 PM
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 08:59:29 PM
A good rule of thumb is to always check how much is actually being donated. The good ones will state their percentages on their page.Quote from: "WideEyeStupid"
Personally, If 70% of donations doesn't reach the people that need them then I usually don't donate.
70%? Hrm.
Do you guys understand endowments when giving?
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 11:00:38 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 11:00:38 PM
Further, endowments give the perps ... I mean officers .... the ability to use them for luxury travel and an endless string of personal and usually luxurious perks ... all of which reduce the overall value ... often greatly .... and of course come from what unwitting givers donate ..... and are perks that never quit / go on for years and even for decades
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 11:05:33 PM
Post by: cc on April 28, 2015, 11:05:33 PM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 11:06:27 PM
Post by: easter bunny on April 28, 2015, 11:06:27 PM
but not to be repeated I take it?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Definitely not.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 11:17:10 PM
Post by: RW on April 28, 2015, 11:17:10 PM
Of course. Problem is that most do not go out of their way to say they are an endowment and most people think their money is going to a current cause ... when it is notQuote from: "cc la femme"
Further, endowments give the perps ... I mean officers .... the ability to use them for luxury travel and an endless string of personal and usually luxurious perks ... all of which reduce the overall value ... often greatly .... and of course come from what unwitting givers donate ..... and are perks that never quit / go on for years and even for decades
When money goes into an endowment, it never stops giving. It is the interest from said endowment that is disbursed.
Perps. Oh cc, you are so dramatic. Charities need people to run them and those people are paid (and rightfully so). I worked for a charity and I assure you, there were no luxury perks for anyone on payroll.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: cc on April 29, 2015, 12:43:01 AM
Post by: cc on April 29, 2015, 12:43:01 AM
Have followed foundation investigations way back .. have seen the books (cooked to various degrees of doneness)... so have a fair idea of how many are used to advantage ... and gotten Putin his uranium, lol. It's usually the big ones and closely held ones that are scams
Most people choose to help based on an immediate cause and immediately. It is not right that many long term ... and I mean long ... and after "expenses" pay someone something
This thread is about a very current and immediate situation which as bunny said he wished his money to be used directly and immediately .... and certainly he intended to be far away from foundations and or endowments
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: RW on April 29, 2015, 01:17:28 AM
Post by: RW on April 29, 2015, 01:17:28 AM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Not on yours maybe. Yours is only one of 1000s so any direct experience is merely specific situation relevant and is no criteria for many of the big ones ... and especially of the closely held ones ... no different than "I know a cpl of xxxxx's and they are really sweet = most or all xxxx's are sweet" ... you remember those daysQuote from: "cc la femme"ac_smile
Have followed foundation investigations way back .. have seen the books (cooked to various degrees of doneness)... so have a fair idea of how many are used to advantage ... and gotten Putin his uranium, lol. It's usually the big ones and closely held ones that are scams
Most people choose to help based on an immediate cause and immediately. It is not right that many long term ... and I mean long ... and after "expenses" pay someone something
This thread is about a very current and immediate situation which as bunny said he wished his money to be used directly and immediately .... and certainly he intended to be far away from foundations and or endowmentsStudied Drama Queen out
It must be so disheartening to find out that donations have not been used the way we thought they were.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2015, 09:46:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2015, 09:46:17 PM
A good rule of thumb is to always check how much is actually being donated. The good ones will state their percentages on their page.Quote from: "WideEyeStupid"
Personally, If 70% of donations doesn't reach the people that need them then I usually don't donate.
Hello WideEyeStupid, I am so happy to see you here..
I agree that 70% is a good rule of thumb to follow when deciding whether to donate or not.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 12:46:56 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 12:46:56 AM
The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well they decided to repeat it with Nepal. I still have no idea who pocketed the money I donated, or what happened to the money the government matched. It pisses me off to this day that I could have been so stupid.Quote from: "easter bunny"
People come inside my bank to make collect the money for Nepal.
They should severely punish those who try to make money from disasters. It's a disgusting thing to do because it stops people from donating to real charities.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 12:50:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 12:50:28 AM
The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well they decided to repeat it with Nepal. I still have no idea who pocketed the money I donated, or what happened to the money the government matched. It pisses me off to this day that I could have been so stupid.Quote from: "easter bunny"
People come inside my bank to make collect the money for Nepal.
They should severely punish those who try to make money from disasters. It's a disgusting thing to do because it stops people from donating to real charities.
Fucking rights it's disgusting. In today's day and age you better verify where your hard earned loot is going.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 12:52:40 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 12:52:40 AM
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
You'd think the govt of Canada would be legit. =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
The words government and legit to do not belong in the same sentence. Biggest wasters of cash in this country and most others too. Look at how well all the billions poured into the Aboriginal industry have worked out. ac_rollseyes
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 01:06:31 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 01:06:31 AM
You'd think the govt of Canada would be legit. =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
The words government and legit to do not belong in the same sentence. Biggest wasters of cash in this country and most others too. Look at how well all the billions poured into the Aboriginal industry have worked out. ac_rollseyes
I was young and naive. No wait, I blame it on Obama. hahaha
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 01:25:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 01:25:18 AM
You'd think the govt of Canada would be legit. =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
The words government and legit to do not belong in the same sentence. Biggest wasters of cash in this country and most others too. Look at how well all the billions poured into the Aboriginal industry have worked out. ac_rollseyes
I was young and naive. No wait, I blame it on Obama. hahaha
We research investments and we should research who we donate to as well EB
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
Post by: easter bunny on April 30, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
You'd think the govt of Canada would be legit. =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
The words government and legit to do not belong in the same sentence. Biggest wasters of cash in this country and most others too. Look at how well all the billions poured into the Aboriginal industry have worked out. ac_rollseyes
I was young and naive. No wait, I blame it on Obama. hahaha
We research investments and we should research who we donate to as well EB
You're absolutely right. No excuses.
Title: Re: The Haiti earthquake scam worked so well...
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 09:20:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2015, 09:20:17 AM
You'd think the govt of Canada would be legit. =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
The words government and legit to do not belong in the same sentence. Biggest wasters of cash in this country and most others too. Look at how well all the billions poured into the Aboriginal industry have worked out. ac_rollseyes
I was young and naive. No wait, I blame it on Obama. hahaha
We research investments and we should research who we donate to as well EB
You're absolutely right. No excuses.
I agree with both of you.