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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 03:40:34 AM

Title: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 03:40:34 AM
You will be a tough act to follow..



Best of luck to Ms. Notley.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 11:54:21 AM
The PC party left us with the practically no debt, the lowest tax burden, the highest wages and the largest recipient of investment. However, most of their accomplishments occurred under one premier. They've made a lot of missteps in the past decade since Klein left office. Change was needed. Let's just hope Nothead doesn't turn us into another Manitoba.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: cc on May 06, 2015, 11:56:47 AM
Listen to the "ideas". They know no other way
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"They know no other way

Manitoba's number one export to Saskatchewan and Alberta is economic refugees fleeing dipper mismanagement. I suspect Saskatchewan and BC will be the recipients of Manitoba's dipper disaster. Maybe Alberta too, depending how ideological she wants to get.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: cc on May 06, 2015, 12:02:02 PM
What does this mean for the sands and keystone etc?



I don't know Alta politics. Why 2 similar parties who made up 52% of the vote ? ... Dippers had only 39



What's with that? Looks like a gunfight in a circle
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: RW on May 06, 2015, 12:04:32 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"What does this mean for the sands and keystone etc?



I don't know Alta politics. Why 2 similar parties who made up 52% of the vote ? ... Dippers had only 39



What's with that? Looks like a gunfight in a circle

It's bad news for pipeline development, but a gift to CN and CP. At best she gives lukewarm support to Energy East, less to Kinder Morgan expansion and none at all to either NG or KXL. Our economy will slow from what we have averaged over the past 15 years that is for sure.



As for the oilsands, they are long term developments less sensitive to price and policy fluctuations. Current projects will continue, but new ones may decide to sit on plans until 2019.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The PC party left us with the practically no debt, the lowest tax burden, the highest wages and the largest recipient of investment. However, most of their accomplishments occurred under one premier. They've made a lot of missteps in the past decade since Klein left office. Change was needed. Let's just hope Nothead doesn't turn us into another Manitoba.

After 44 years, it's only natural for voters to be fed up. Campaign mistakes aside, their time was done.



It reminds me of Nova Scotia where after trading between the PC's and Liberals, each election they voted for the NDP for the first time. They lost the election badly and finished third. My guess is that Alberta voters will have buyer's remorse in a year or two and vote out the NDP next election.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Shen Li"The PC party left us with the practically no debt, the lowest tax burden, the highest wages and the largest recipient of investment. However, most of their accomplishments occurred under one premier. They've made a lot of missteps in the past decade since Klein left office. Change was needed. Let's just hope Nothead doesn't turn us into another Manitoba.

After 44 years, it's only natural for voters to be fed up. Campaign mistakes aside, their time was done.



It reminds me of Nova Scotia where after trading between the PC's and Liberals, each election they voted for the NDP for the first time. They lost the election badly and finished third. My guess is that Alberta voters will have buyer's remorse in a year or two and vote out the NDP next election.

She contacted Roy Romanow this morning, so she may be a centrist like him. If not, it will definitely be a one time experiment.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
My main concern about the NDP is their aversion to resource development. It's too bad we don't have a social democratic party that did not see mines, pipelines, and LNG exports as a bigger threat than radical Islam.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
Markets are down as a reaction to the uncertainties of a Nothead victory. Alberta's economy is critical to Canada. She would be wise to hold off on tinkering with the economy until oil prices are on a stronger footing. Crude had it's best month in years in April. She would be wise to hold off until 2016 before charging higher taxes, fees that we all pay anyway.



Alberta spends more per capita on our civil service and this probem will only get worse under Nothead.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2015, 03:02:17 PM
Under Nothead, Alberta is facing a triple whammy of low(though improving) energy prices, higher corporate taxes on declining profits, opening up the royalty review(which has always meant raising rates). On top of this our tax on carbon is up for review on June 1. My guess is that she will expand it and charge more.



Hold on to your purses Albertans, things may get very costly here. If you can keep an eye on the Saskatchewan option. Nothead may reverse the brain drain.



Chretien's Liberals got it, Lorne Calvert's Saskatchewan NDP got it, Gary Doer's Manitoba NDP got it, Ralph Klein's PC Alberta got it. Greg Selinger's NDP doesn't get it, nor does Rachel Notley. This is why TSX is not having a good day as a result of this result.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: J0E on May 06, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"You will be a tough act to follow..



Best of luck to Ms. Notley.


Quote from: "Shen Li"The PC party left us with the practically no debt, the lowest tax burden, the highest wages and the largest recipient of investment. However, most of their accomplishments occurred under one premier. They've made a lot of missteps in the past decade since Klein left office. Change was needed. Let's just hope Nothead doesn't turn us into another Manitoba.


...somehow, I don't think this bodes well for Alberta.



Maybe the rest of the country.



Can't really trust the ndp to manage a wealthy province like Alberta, especially with no experience.



Makes me feel uneasy, with them getting too much too soon.



ndp is best left to small enterprises like Manitoba, Nova Scotia or PEI.



But Alberta? Hope they don't run it inta the ground.



BC's fortunes are tied to Alberta, as is much of the country.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Bricktop on May 06, 2015, 07:26:14 PM
ac_boring
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: RW on May 06, 2015, 08:41:11 PM
This is kind big news here Spec.  



I agree about only one thread though :)
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 06, 2015, 10:20:52 PM
Toronto Star editorial says NDP win in Alberta is bad news for the Harper Conservatives:



The bounce the NDP win has given progressives can't be good news for the Harper team; for federal Tories the road to another mandate has just grown steeper. Change is in the air, bad news for a Conservative party that has been in power for nearly a decade and seeks a fourth consecutive stint in office....



Alberta now has an NDP government after 44 years of continuous Tory rule. So does Manitoba. Liberals hold sway almost everywhere else: in Ontario, Quebec, British Columbia, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. The Conservatives have been reduced to a single provincial bastion, Newfoundland, while the centre-right Saskatchewan party holds power there. With Alberta's seismic shift the political landscape has tilted decisively against the Tories....



What voters really wanted was renewal and a government that would be on their side. That shattered the Tory monolith.



Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Bricktop on May 06, 2015, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: "RW"This is kind big news here Spec.  



I agree about only one thread though :)


An Archbishop has been indicted for concealing child abuse as a Bishop in New South Wales.



That is big news here.



Is that of any interest to you?
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: RW on May 07, 2015, 12:02:23 AM
If it wasn't yet another bishop doing that very thing.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 12:50:17 AM
right - kiddy diidler concealment by bishops is old news
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 12:56:48 AM
Tomorrow we have the UK going at it - general election & most local areas also
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: J0E on May 07, 2015, 12:57:44 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"This is kind big news here Spec.  



I agree about only one thread though :)


An Archbishop has been indicted for concealing child abuse as a Bishop in New South Wales.



That is big news here.



Is that of any interest to you?


...but even the New York Times is interested in the Alberta Election



http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/americas/leftist-party-in-alberta-ends-long-dominance-of-conservatives.html?_r=1?EXIT_URI=http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/americas/leftist-party-in-alberta-ends-long-dominance-of-conservatives.html?_r=1
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Bricktop on May 07, 2015, 01:32:22 AM
Quote from: "Frank"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"This is kind big news here Spec.  



I agree about only one thread though :)


An Archbishop has been indicted for concealing child abuse as a Bishop in New South Wales.



That is big news here.



Is that of any interest to you?


...but even the New York Times is interested in the Alberta Election



http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/americas/leftist-party-in-alberta-ends-long-dominance-of-conservatives.html?_r=1?EXIT_URI=http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/americas/leftist-party-in-alberta-ends-long-dominance-of-conservatives.html?_r=1


Look around.



Do you see "New York Times" signed anywhere near here?
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2015, 03:51:50 AM
Quote from: "RW"This is kind big news here Spec.  



I agree about only one thread though :)

There are too many threads about this subject..



I know the change Alberta experienced is to Canadians what electing Taiwan electing a non Kuomintang president in 2000..



But, there are enough already.
Title: Re: Good bye Alberta PC's, you helped make us the best province
Post by: Renee on May 07, 2015, 06:45:57 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"right - kiddy diidler concealment by bishops is old news


It's my understanding that a "bishop" is usually involved even if the kiddy diddling isn't done by a member of the clergy.



I know, I know.....I'm going to he'll.....no need to say it. ac_blush