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Title: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 07, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
My money ($5) is on Labour.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: J0E on May 07, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
.......Another minority guv
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 07, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
Hi Joe!
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2015, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"Hi Joe!

WTF is Joe doing here ffs?? ac_wot
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 07, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
Joe is sweeter than fucking sugar..
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"My money ($5) is on Labour.

Oh my, not another election.

 ac_huh
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 02:17:54 PM
QuoteWho will win today's British election?
Guess



Here's a Shariah-compliant Labor meeting in Birmingham - blatant, eh?



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The "party for women" panders for misogynist's votes , sigh



Shame on them . but it gets them votes, eh? Ya, they will likely win and turn what little  is left of the UK over



Not that Cameron hasn't caved for islam again & again ... the election is just about who will do it faster
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 07, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
Islam or not.. The most important thing now is that Finland is owning Slovenia in hockey.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 04:36:14 PM
Go Finns!!!!



Well, it really doesn't matter who wins - it's more about who comes 3rd and the combined number of Cons + UKIP (suck it up or sit it out Cameron) or Labor + Lib Dems. The top 2 are around a measly 33% so unless one really picks up today someone will have to suck it up / sell or at least share their soul to share the rule



Whichever combo gets over 1/2 the seats rules
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Tatterdamelion on May 07, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
The exit poll in Britain's general election predicts that the Conservative Party will win 316 seats, just short of a majority in the House of Commons.



The surprise poll results are in contrast to polls leading up to the election that suggested Prime Minister David Cameron's party would not come close to a majority, and would be locked in a much tighter race with the opposition Labour Party, led by Ed Miliband -- predicted to gain 239 seats in the exit poll.



Cameron's Conservatives would need 326 for an outright majority in the 650-seat parliament.



If the exit poll is accurate, the Conservative Party would be in a commanding position to form the next government by seeking coalition partners from smaller parties.





There's no win here for the UK. Cameron is a panderer and fuckup almost as much as Millbrand and some others .. The UK is not the UK any more
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 07, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"UKIP (


They'll be lucky to win  more than ten seats
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Romero on May 07, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"The UK is not the UK any more

It isn't??? It was the last time I checked. So, what is it now?



Alberta was finished a couple of days ago, the UK isn't the UK anymore today... there won't be any place left by the end of summer!
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 07, 2015, 11:30:28 PM
prolly not



I'm curious. Your take on this Birmingham Labor rally? Spill your guts .. do you think it's ok for islam (under Labor's approval obviously) to segregate females? Any other thoughts on it.



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We already know islam is an incurable shitter ... but how about Labor's part in approving Islam's vile misogyny / separation ...



whites to the front ... blacks to the back ... OK with you too??
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2015, 05:30:42 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"prolly not



I'm curious. Your take on this Birmingham Labor rally? Spill your guts .. do you think it's ok for islam (under Labor's approval obviously) to segregate females? Any other thoughts on it.



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We already know islam is an incurable shitter ... but how about Labor's part in approving Islam's vile misogyny / separation ...



whites to the front ... blacks to the back ... OK with you too??

A segregated political rally?



This reinforces that my decision not to vote was a good choice.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Bricktop on May 08, 2015, 07:53:03 AM
Despite the Left's promise to increase welfare and reverse many of the Right's economic measures, the British people rejected them.



In western democracies, the Left is being repulsed on a grand scale.



Socialism is seen as the cause of many sociological problems created by multiculturalism, excess welfare, policies favouring the idle and antisocial, and economic mismanagement.



The world is turning to the right...
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 08, 2015, 10:19:33 AM
The BBC's latest forecast, based on results so far: This morning

Conservatives 331

Labour 232

SNP 56

Lib Dems 8
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: RW on May 08, 2015, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Despite the Left's promise to increase welfare and reverse many of the Right's economic measures, the British people rejected them.



In western democracies, the Left is being repulsed on a grand scale.



Socialism is seen as the cause of many sociological problems created by multiculturalism, excess welfare, policies favouring the idle and antisocial, and economic mismanagement.



The world is turning to the right...

Oh bullshit.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 08, 2015, 11:17:56 AM
Anyone got $5  ??
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on May 08, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"The world is turning to the right...


I always thought Alberta was out of this world
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: RW on May 08, 2015, 11:19:18 AM
Don't look at me.  All I have is a bag of wooden nickels and sore knees.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Renee on May 08, 2015, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: "RW"Don't look at me.  All I have is a bag of wooden nickels and sore knees.


Not touching that.   ac_angel
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: RW on May 08, 2015, 11:37:25 AM
I already did all the work :P
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Renee on May 08, 2015, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: "RW"I already did all the work :P


Not touching that, either.  ac_angel
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: RW on May 08, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 08, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
This thread has taken an interesting turn for the better ... a good mind pic has been created



And to think it all started from a sexless appearing  critter like the UK PM makes it even funnier
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: RW on May 08, 2015, 12:15:21 PM
Hahaha. I woke up on the right side of the bed today :)
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 08, 2015, 12:29:01 PM
Sounds like you were on his side
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 08, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
Finland now has "SSS-Government". :D



The party-leaders last names start with the letter S and they are all right wing conservatives.



The the bitter lazy left gave that name...
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Romero on May 08, 2015, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"prolly not



I'm curious. Your take on this Birmingham Labor rally? Spill your guts .. do you think it's ok for islam (under Labor's approval obviously) to segregate females? Any other thoughts on it.



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We already know islam is an incurable shitter ... but how about Labor's part in approving Islam's vile misogyny / separation ...



whites to the front ... blacks to the back ... OK with you too??

I do not approve of segregating females! The Labour leader didn't either.


QuoteHarriet Harman has given a partial justification of a gender-segregated Labour election rally, saying it was "better than a men-only meeting" and it would have been "rude" to boycott it.



The Labour Deputy leader said she did not "agree" with a meeting attended by senior Labour figures where Asian men and women were separated along gender lines, but she said it was an attempt to get more women from the Muslim community involved in politics.



It would have been better if the meeting had decided to "sit round in a big circle", she suggested.



"We don't agree with sex segregation. We didn't agree with it in higher education, and we don't agree with it in politics either," she told LBC Radio.

"This meeting was organised by a male Labour councillor and a female Labour councillor, and what they were trying to do is ensure there weren't men only meetings, which we are even more not in favour of it.



"It was actually bringing the women from the community into the meeting. But no, sex segregation in seating is not a good idea. But it's better than men-only meetings. We want to have meetings where men and women are on equal terms.



"I don't know the young woman Muslim councillor who organised this, but I bet I would be backing her up in getting more women from that community involved."



"I'm not a boycotting type of person, and if people are there I don't like to be rude and walk out of things. I perhaps would have discussed with the young woman councillor if we could have all sat together. Probably, I would have said let's all sit round in a big circle and mix everything up."



"We are for women's equality and women's progress. We want that for every woman in all communities. There's no uncertainty about that."



//http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11585886/Better-Labour-meetings-are-segregated-than-men-only-says-Harriet-Harman.html
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 08, 2015, 12:44:50 PM
We shouldnt separate males and females...



We should use the same shower rooms just like in starship troopers..



Gives a whole new meaning for picking up the soap.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Green_Hornet on May 08, 2015, 02:02:45 PM
The two racist parties that cc la femme supported did really badly.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage is resigning after he failed to win Thanet South, losing by nearly 2,800 votes to the Conservatives.  UKIP only got 1 seat.

The BNP did not win any seats.  That is expected since they almost disappeared from British Election after Nick Griffin quit last year.  The membership in the BNP dropped by 90%.


Quote from: "cc la femme"prolly not



I'm curious. Your take on this Birmingham Labor rally? Spill your guts .. do you think it's ok for islam (under Labor's approval obviously) to segregate females? Any other thoughts on it.



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We already know islam is an incurable shitter ... but how about Labor's part in approving Islam's vile misogyny / separation ...



whites to the front ... blacks to the back ... OK with you too??
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"The world is turning to the right...


I always thought Alberta was out of this world

Is it because Alberta attracted so many young Canadians seeking better opportunities?



I have heard at one time it was Ontario.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Despite the Left's promise to increase welfare and reverse many of the Right's economic measures, the British people rejected them.



In western democracies, the Left is being repulsed on a grand scale.



Socialism is seen as the cause of many sociological problems created by multiculturalism, excess welfare, policies favouring the idle and antisocial, and economic mismanagement.



The world is turning to the right...

Not the Western world Sox. It's not the 1990's anymore with government of all stripes implementing spending/tax cuts, smaller government, deregulating the economy and balanced budgets.



Federally, we have a nominally conservative government, but the truth is they are socialists compared to the 90's Chretien Liberals.



Provincially, in election after election, decade after decade, Albertans have voted for a big-spending party that gave them stuff on a scale most provinces could only dream of, squandered their money on various mad "diversification" schemes, and involved itself in all of the meddlesome busywork you would expect to find in any modern bureaucratic state. Under Peter Lougheed it even had its own airline. It may have had the word Conservative in its name, but that was all it was: a word.



The province spent more than most, paid its employees more — then was shocked to find that it could not sustain itself on this lifestyle at less than $100 a barrel.


QuoteThat's true more generally of so-called "progressive" parties: Liberal, NDP or Green. I've said it before: The left is winning. They are raising taxes, they are running deficits, they are adding whole new government programs, like carbon trading or the Ontario pension plan — all things they were told were politically impossible. Of what comparable victory can the right boast in recent years? In what important way has government become smaller? What industry has been deregulated? What Crown corporation has been privatized? What corporate subsidy has been eliminated?



Has the tax system grown simpler and flatter or more complicated? Are there fewer needless intrusions on personal freedom? Are the toxic fixations of identity politics any less dominant a concern under Conservative than progressive parties? Conservatives used to talk confidently about rolling back the frontiers of the state. Now they don't talk about anything much. Oh wait, I've just been handed this press release from Rona Ambrose: the Conservatives will impose "comply or explain" gender quotas on corporate boards. Hallelujah. You'd never catch a Liberal or NDP government doing that.



Which is to say, part of the reason the left is winning is that it is the only side showing up. The left pushes, and the right does not push back — doesn't offer its own alternatives, certainly, or even a serious critique. Because it doesn't have one, really. We are back to the 1960s and 1970s, when the expansion of the state was a one-way ratchet — growing during periods of left-wing rule, barely held in check under the right — and the only alternative the right could offer was "we'd do it less expensively."

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-alberta-never-really-was-all-that-conservative
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
I do not approve of segregating females! The Labour leader didn't either.


QuoteHarriet Harman has given a partial justification of a gender-segregated Labour election rally, saying it was "better than a men-only meeting" and it would have been "rude" to boycott it.



The Labour Deputy leader said she did not "agree" with a meeting attended by senior Labour figures where Asian men and women were separated along gender lines, but she said it was an attempt to get more women from the Muslim community involved in politics.



It would have been better if the meeting had decided to "sit round in a big circle", she suggested.



"We don't agree with sex segregation. We didn't agree with it in higher education, and we don't agree with it in politics either," she told LBC Radio.

"This meeting was organised by a male Labour councillor and a female Labour councillor, and what they were trying to do is ensure there weren't men only meetings, which we are even more not in favour of it.



"It was actually bringing the women from the community into the meeting. But no, sex segregation in seating is not a good idea. But it's better than men-only meetings. We want to have meetings where men and women are on equal terms.



"I don't know the young woman Muslim councillor who organised this, but I bet I would be backing her up in getting more women from that community involved."



"I'm not a boycotting type of person, and if people are there I don't like to be rude and walk out of things. I perhaps would have discussed with the young woman councillor if we could have all sat together. Probably, I would have said let's all sit round in a big circle and mix everything up."



"We are for women's equality and women's progress. We want that for every woman in all communities. There's no uncertainty about that."



//http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11585886/Better-Labour-meetings-are-segregated-than-men-only-says-Harriet-Harman.html

The Labour doesn't approve of gender segregation, but they tolerate it?? ac_rollseyes Would they tolerate racial segregation too even if they don't approve??



No wonder they did so fucking poorly. Not that David Cameron is much better. Britain is FUBAR!!
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 08, 2015, 07:06:00 PM
Yup. FUBAR
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Bricktop on May 08, 2015, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Despite the Left's promise to increase welfare and reverse many of the Right's economic measures, the British people rejected them.



In western democracies, the Left is being repulsed on a grand scale.



Socialism is seen as the cause of many sociological problems created by multiculturalism, excess welfare, policies favouring the idle and antisocial, and economic mismanagement.



The world is turning to the right...

Oh bullshit.


Scuse me? The British election was an endorsement of right-sided politics.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: J0E on May 09, 2015, 10:05:51 AM
Voters who give ANY party a clear majority in ANY country these days are dumb.

Every time a majority gets in, special interest groups always get favored at the expense of the majority.

So what really happens is the a 'majority' ends up ruling for a minority in the population.

Its akin to having 5 stores selling the same product. Well of course the more stores you have, the lower the price is for the consumer because there's more competition. But as soon as a few of those stores go out of business, the price goes up. And the remaining stores make up a faux excuse such as they had to do it to remain in business. But of course they could always afford to sell it at the lower price, they just don't want to pass the benefits on to the consumers. Likewise, a majority guv could do a lot more for its people, but they just don't want to. Because they're not accountable, they choose to dole out favors for their friends while witholding help for the rest of the population, which is the majority.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 09, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
Newsflash: UK chooses slow suicide over immediate suicide
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2015, 03:03:19 PM
Newsflash: FUCK OFF Joe acc_angry
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 09, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
Joe is a good fella.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Joe is a good fella.

Then go blow each other on the Phag phorum.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 09, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
Didn't take long for those moonbats who hate democracy / will not respect the will of other people



Anarchy In The U.K: Rioting Begins Over Democratic Process In London
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Didn't take long for those moonbats who hate democracy / will not respect the will of other people



Anarchy In The U.K: Rioting Begins Over Democratic Process In London

I wonder what the re-elected PM plans to do about this? My guess is not nearly enough.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 09, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
Maybe women will de-ball the wimps
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Maybe women will de-ball the wimps

De-ball?? That implies they had a pair to begin with.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 09, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
My error. I know better. I just got carried away with the moment
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2015, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"My error. I know better. I just got carried away with the moment

Perfectly understandable.



Islam has enriched British society. Just ask the Tory and Labour parties. ac_toofunny  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Bricktop on May 09, 2015, 08:58:59 PM
On a recent trip to the UK, muzzies were handing out copies of the Koran in the street.



No biggie...except some whities were TAKING them!!!



I took 4 copies before the refuse bin was filled.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: cc on May 09, 2015, 10:35:44 PM
This speaks for itself and tells us what is out there .. how many progs think (or rather don't) and how they hate .... and good luck governing the country with this crap out there in numbers guys



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Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 10, 2015, 01:08:21 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Joe is a good fella.

Then go blow each other on the Phag phorum.


So much gay stuff... Somebody is on the downlow..



You should thank the lefties/gay people in Canada.. Imagine if my kind gets in control..



Might not be so lenient with lazy immigrants.



 ac_toofunny



You are so ungrateful.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Odinson on May 10, 2015, 01:10:56 AM
Average Joe is sweeter than fucking sugar.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2015, 04:40:49 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"On a recent trip to the UK, muzzies were handing out copies of the Koran in the street.



No biggie...except some whities were TAKING them!!!



I took 4 copies before the refuse bin was filled.

Are you joking SPECTRE?
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Bricktop on May 10, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
Yes and no... ac_bashful



However, in regard to Leftards, and their appalling post election conduct, no. It is so typical of leftists that when things do not swing their way, they succumb to violence and civil disruption.



When leftist governments are elected, as in the case on Tony Blair in the UK, or Kevin Rudd in Australia, rightists are not seen filling the streets and venting the spleen at the election results.



Yet when the ELECTORATE (not the government) decide to vote in a rightist party, the Left goes loopy. Unsurprisingly really, as the left is the politics of violence, disruption, mobilisation, vituperation and hate.
Title: Re: Who will win today's British election?
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2015, 04:31:35 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Yes and no... ac_bashful



However, in regard to Leftards, and their appalling post election conduct, no. It is so typical of leftists that when things do not swing their way, they succumb to violence and civil disruption.



When leftist governments are elected, as in the case on Tony Blair in the UK, or Kevin Rudd in Australia, rightists are not seen filling the streets and venting the spleen at the election results.



Yet when the ELECTORATE (not the government) decide to vote in a rightist party, the Left goes loopy. Unsurprisingly really, as the left is the politics of violence, disruption, mobilisation, vituperation and hate.

Thank you for the political information SPECTRE..



My own feeling is that I do not understand how anyone can act in such an irrational way about politics..



It's different for my father who was challenging the dictatorship of Chiang Kai Shek and his son Chiang Ching Kuo before Taiwan became a democracy.