I put this to Fash, but she suggested I seek input from the masses...
I'd like to implement a sub forum, because I believe the "one forum - one index" isn't the best way to encourage people to post.
I'd like to confine the subforum to socio-political issues, with a strict no-flaming moderation. However, that does not mean or imply I want moderator authority...I don't. But I do believe the forum as a whole would benefit from some delineation.
The sub-forum would STILL be the responsibility of the existing moderators in terms of rule enforcement.
A "Sub-Forum Host" might be a more descriptive term for what I propose. Hosting is not moderating.
Anyway, throwing it out there for your consideration...
Of course, if you deny me, I'll leave....
ac_razz
lol. I've always liked things neat and orderly so that works for me. =)
I support giving it a go if you make the effort and commitment to populate and post in it.
Do whatever you want.
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Do whatever you want.
Well, firstly, I can't because its not MY forum, and secondly there's no point in doing so if the members either oppose or don't care.
Try and be a bit partial one way or the other!!!
But that IS the nicest thing you've ever said to me...
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I support giving it a go if you make the effort and commitment to populate and post in it.
Not like I'm doing now, you mean?
The 'socio' thing is a bit vague. Why not start with a politics only forum? See how it goes.
Good suggestion.
How one separates the two is a bit of a brain bender...but it is a good idea.
Whatever makes life easier for you guys...
I don't think one thread will cut it for the diversity of issues under the political hat.
If you want a sub forum for political topics I will do that this week..
But, I don't see myself contributing much to it.
ac_umm
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I put this to Fash, but she suggested I seek input from the masses...
I'd like to implement a sub forum, because I believe the "one forum - one index" isn't the best way to encourage people to post.
I'd like to confine the subforum to socio-political issues, with a strict no-flaming moderation. However, that does not mean or imply I want moderator authority...I don't. But I do believe the forum as a whole would benefit from some delineation.
The sub-forum would STILL be the responsibility of the existing moderators in terms of rule enforcement.
A "Sub-Forum Host" might be a more descriptive term for what I propose. Hosting is not moderating.
Anyway, throwing it out there for your consideration...
Of course, if you deny me, I'll leave....
ac_razz
It's not a bad idea, but I wouldn't want to see it become too compartmentalized. I suggest getting rid of the guest area. It's become an area where that gutless candyass bruce trolls us. Put those threads in the main board and open up a political/social sub forum area.
I don't see the point in having a sub-forum for sociopolitical issues. Why have some threads hidden in a sub-forum when they can just be on the main page? Why only sociopolitical issues?
I certainly don't see how having a sociopolitical sub-forum is going to encourage people to post.
Quote from: "Romero"
I don't see the point in having a sub-forum for sociopolitical issues. Why have some threads hidden in a sub-forum when they can just be on the main page? Why only sociopolitical issues?
I certainly don't see how having a sociopolitical sub-forum is going to encourage people to post.
I see your point too. I think what Sox is getting at, is the political junkies don't have to wade through cooking, what celebutards said or sports threads to find the only subject that interests them.
I haven't seen any political junkies complaining!
Quote from: "Romero"
I haven't seen any political junkies complaining!
Look, it's not a big deal to me Romero. I am just saying what I think the point Sox is trying to make. He believes a separate area for political junkies could attract traffic. However, how does that work when we are STILL on lock down? ac_dunno
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I put this to Fash, but she suggested I seek input from the masses...
I'd like to implement a sub forum, because I believe the "one forum - one index" isn't the best way to encourage people to post.
I'd like to confine the subforum to socio-political issues, with a strict no-flaming moderation. However, that does not mean or imply I want moderator authority...I don't. But I do believe the forum as a whole would benefit from some delineation.
The sub-forum would STILL be the responsibility of the existing moderators in terms of rule enforcement.
A "Sub-Forum Host" might be a more descriptive term for what I propose. Hosting is not moderating.
Anyway, throwing it out there for your consideration...
Of course, if you deny me, I'll leave....
ac_razz
It's not a bad idea, but I wouldn't want to see it become too compartmentalized. I suggest getting rid of the guest area. It's become an area where that gutless candyass bruce trolls us. Put those threads in the main board and open up a political/social sub forum area.
Guest posting has become a place for complaints and insults only..
How do posters feel about forcing posters to join if they want to complain about Blue Cashew?
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Guest posting has become a place for complaints and insults only..
How do posters feel about forcing posters to join if they want to complain about Blue Cashew?
Get rid of GP entirely. I am getting sick of drive by trolling from VF cowards.
If you do make a political sub, you have to let guests view it or it will NOT work.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Guest posting has become a place for complaints and insults only..
How do posters feel about forcing posters to join if they want to complain about Blue Cashew?
Get rid of GP entirely. I am getting sick of drive by trolling from VF cowards.
If you do make a political sub, you have to let guests view it or it will NOT work.
I have to go back to work now..
In a day or two, we will have a better idea if posters feel a new sub forum is a good idea or not..
Enjoy the rest of your day everyone.
ac_smile
Work...
Phew!
'socio-economic' is merely a euphemism for philosophical standpoints, be they in the field of religion; history interpretation or political orientation. Fact of the matter is, everybody has already a fairly entrenched position on all of those subjects, now either tries with missionary zeal to 'enlighten' others, ridicule other viewpoints or viciously defend own p.o.vs. In the end, nothing is gained and it"s a complete w.o.t.
How do I know? For years I battled Neonazis, communists ; sicko freaks; green nuts and Stalinists; revisionists ; antisemitists and pathological Jew haters. All of these people and the political Left, share a common hall mark: rather than deal with reality, they dwell in home spun delusions, phantasies, Utopian irrealism and neither have learned from history nor do they want to learn from it.
Of course, young people interested in pissing contests love to 'discuss' topics of 'socio-economic' nature.
Thanks for reading this far....
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'socio-economic' is merely a euphemism for philosophical standpoints, be they in the field of religion; history interpretation or political orientation. Fact of the matter is, everybody has already a fairly entrenched position on all of those subjects, now either tries with missionary zeal to 'enlighten' others, ridicule other viewpoints or viciously defend own p.o.vs. In the end, nothing is gained and it"s a complete w.o.t.
How do I know? For years I battled Neonazis, communists ; sicko freaks; green nuts and Stalinists; revisionists ; antisemitists and pathological Jew haters. All of these people and the political Left, share a common hall mark: rather than deal with reality, they dwell in home spun delusions, phantasies, Utopian irrealism and neither have learned from history nor do they want to learn from it.
Of course, young people interested in pissing contests love to 'discuss' topics of 'socio-economic' nature.
Thanks for reading this far....
I don't disagree with you Heinzy. I know that attempting to persuade opponents to our POV is almost always a waste of time.
However, East Asians are generally more pragmatic than our caucasoid friends. In East Asian democracies, staying the course when something is not working is kind of an unknown. This is why you have centre-right parties in Asia getting support from labour unions and centre-left parties implementing things like open markets, streamlining regulations and other forms of economic liberalization.
Hey...
Simply keep throwing money at it... Keep the morons idea alive..
Quote from: "heinzy"
'socio-economic' is merely a euphemism for philosophical standpoints, be they in the field of religion; history interpretation or political orientation. Fact of the matter is, everybody has already a fairly entrenched position on all of those subjects, now either tries with missionary zeal to 'enlighten' others, ridicule other viewpoints or viciously defend own p.o.vs. In the end, nothing is gained and it"s a complete w.o.t.
How do I know? For years I battled Neonazis, communists ; sicko freaks; green nuts and Stalinists; revisionists ; antisemitists and pathological Jew haters. All of these people and the political Left, share a common hall mark: rather than deal with reality, they dwell in home spun delusions, phantasies, Utopian irrealism and neither have learned from history nor do they want to learn from it.
Of course, young people interested in pissing contests love to 'discuss' topics of 'socio-economic' nature.
Thanks for reading this far....
I couldn't agree more. Unless this place gets a huge influx of new blood, a sociopolitical forum will fail. Arguing sociopolitical point's of view among the regulars will be a complete waste of time. It's all been done before and it is just so tiresome to see the same and worn out arguments chased round and round with no resolution in sight. I do not relish the thought of taking part in a political forum so that the usual suspects can turn each thread into what amounts to nothing but a verbal circle jerk.
But on the other hand, if someone wants to devote the time and energy to maintain a sociopolitical forum then so be it. Let them knock themselves out. ac_cool
"limited earning potential".
Fuck I´ve only heard asians saying that.
Overall talk about earning potential.
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I don't see the point in having a sub-forum for sociopolitical issues. Why have some threads hidden in a sub-forum when they can just be on the main page? Why only sociopolitical issues?
I certainly don't see how having a sociopolitical sub-forum is going to encourage people to post.
Rom...let us put aside our enmity for a moment and simply consider the practical aspects of what I am advocating.
I know that some feel that throwing everything in one big bucket is preferred. RW is in that camp.
However, as an example, setting aside "discussions", I know many people enjoy the funnies thread. I wanted to add something a couple of days ago, and had to scroll through three pages of threads to find it. Some might find that onerous...and thus dies a popular thread, because its buried beneath issues about Canada, in which a number of us have no interest, and other threads that have little endurance, but remain above the more appealing threads due to their chronological recency.
Personally, I think this is dumb.
I cannot quite understand the resistance to compartmentalising the forum into a few subs...I am advised by your Admin that is not a technical challenge to do so. It does not affect your moderating. It merely points members into the direction of threads they may wish to contribute to on an ongoing basis. The consequence being that when visitors arrive, they will see, for example, "The Blue Cashew" under which there would be a few headings. "GLOBAL Politics", "General Discussion", "Creatives", and an old favourite...the Spitoon, or Dumpster.
The only change is that each sub would have a host who accepts some responsibility to maintain activity.
As I am happy to host a political discussion sub, I thus volunteer to see how it will function.
I advocate ONLY socio-political issues as a test case. See how it works, and perhaps the rather confusing resistance to creating a number of sub-categories may subside.
That's all.
The more I look at it, the more I have to agree that categorizing seems to be the way to go.
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because its buried beneath issues about Canada, in which a number of us have no interest
I knew this was really about your dislike of Canadian threads! It's no good reason to make a sub-forum. Who's "a number of us" to you? Because a number of us are the ones posting these threads.
I'd feel pretty foolish for joining an Australian forum and telling them I didn't want to see issues about Australia.
The next time you tire yourself out from scrolling through a few pages, keep in mind there is a search feature.
Most other forums do categories with great success. Why not try something tried and true?
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Quote from: "SPECTRE"
because its buried beneath issues about Canada, in which a number of us have no interest
I knew this was really about your dislike of Canadian threads! It's no good reason to make a sub-forum. Who's "a number of us" to you? Because a number of us are the ones posting these threads.
I'd feel pretty foolish for joining an Australian forum and telling them I didn't want to see issues about Australia.
The next time you tire yourself out from scrolling through a few pages, keep in mind there is a search feature.
Sigh...well, I tried.
This is NOT A FUCKING CANADIAN FORUM...geddit!!! Does the sign say "The Blue Canadians"?
If I go to Van, I expect a lot of Canadian discussion. That is its flavour. The Blue Cashew was intended, according to my information, to be non-national, and non-racial. Hence, "The Blue Cashew". Geddit?
I have NO dislike for Canadian threads, things or people Canadian or any other nation. I have a view that confining your discussion to Canadians actually suppresses other issues, as I have illustrated.
You're no better than Munday, if you cannot set aside personal animosity and at least discuss an issue as THE issue, not the person raising it.
You are being beligerent for its own sake, and you did not even have the decency to reply to my PM in person.
Seems to me someone is carrying a little latent Memebee attitude.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
The Blue Cashew was intended, according to my information, to be non-national, and non-racial. Hence, "The Blue Cashew". Geddit?
This forum is a Canadian forum as in it's in Canada and most of the posters are Canadian. If I visited an Australian based forum for whatever reason, I would call it an Australian forum. Nobody ever said this forum was only Canada or only for Canadians, and it's not.
People here are simply discussing whatever they want. It's not our problem if you don't like it. You get to post whatever you want. You don't see anyone here telling you to keep it off the main page.
We're posting the exact same kind of things we wanted to at any other forum. Why would we change what we wish to write about? Nobody knew you'd get all pissy about us discussing the same things we've always discussed.
Technically, it's not in Canada.
What's wrong with categories? I'm asking since you can't then the thread card at me and skirt the discussion with bullshit :)
It's not busy enough to warrant sub-forums. The bottom threads on the main page are from two days ago. We need a sub-forum because somebody had to find one thread?
We don't need a sub-forum just because one person doesn't like seeing Canadians discussing Canadian issues.
The question is, will subforum generate more discussion? I saw it on Blurt's board back in the day. He had categories and it inspired people to post a variety of topics.
Romerotard is displaying exactly the attitude that will eventually undermine this forum. He's taking an opposing stance because of personal animosity.
I am trying to MAKE it busy enough, he is just being obstructive.
Nothing changes.
He's only one person and so far, the only one with an opposing view.
I say let's experiment with categorization because it can't hurt. This place has experienced little or no growth since the split and if it is going to survive it has to revive interest and attract new members. If Romero has a better idea he better produce it because this place is on the edge of being just another dead forum. All it needs is for one or two regulars to lose interest and probably 50% of the current forum traffic will cease.
Again, if someone wants to put in the effort to create a sub forum and maintain it, then by all means do it.
I agree Renee.
I think you're a fatalist renee. This forum could sustain people losing interest - it does all the time. There's nothing to panic about. You posters are a core group with a forum habit. You've all become close and eliminated a lot of your problems (myself, for example). About categorization - I have an opinion but I don't think I should make suggestions.
What do you mean eliminated our problems (you)?
Why shouldn't you make suggestions?
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What do you mean eliminated our problems (you)?
Why shouldn't you make suggestions?
I was a problem that I'm sure many of you are relieved to be rid of :)
I thought maybe I shouldn't make suggestions, although you guys are fine with it, because I'm not as involved as most of you.
Are you being sarcastic? You? A problem?! NO WAY!
I think you should make suggestions :)
:)
On this subject, categorization, I don't like categories. My opinion aligns generally with Romero's. I didn't like how blurt's forum was set up into categories. But, a few categories wouldn't hurt - just so long as the whole thing wasn't categorized (as blurt's was).
I didn't like categories until Blurt'z place inspires me to post things I normally wouldn't have.
I think that's a good compromise - categories while maintaining the main board :)
And, it is a Canadian forum that should focus more on Canadian topics. We should agree on that before proceeding.
Grade B maple syrup is better (better taste although less dense) than grade A.
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Quote from: "RW"
What do you mean eliminated our problems (you)?
Why shouldn't you make suggestions?
I was a problem that I'm sure many of you are relieved to be rid of :)
I thought maybe I shouldn't make suggestions, although you guys are fine with it, because I'm not as involved as most of you.
For the record, asal I never thought of you as a problem and I never would consider eliminating you. I may consider you annoying from time to time as I'm sure you consider me the same. ac_toofunny
BTW, as far as I'm concerned you are more than welcome to make suggestions on whatever subject you like. You are a member here and have every right to do so.
Thanks Renee :) I never thought you're annoying. Sometimes we don't understand each other. It made me laugh when you got pissed off that I posted a plum pudding poem in a thread I started on the wolf moon. I enjoyed your reaction on a lot of things.
Quote from: "asal"
And, it is a Canadian forum that should focus more on Canadian topics. We should agree on that before proceeding.
Grade B maple syrup is better (better taste although less dense) than grade A.
Unlike others, I am less kindly disposed towards you, although I recognise your right to an opinion, and that opinion deserves respect.
However, if this IS a Canadian forum, I would invite Fashionista to confirm that. Why then, don't many contributors such as yourselves confine yourself to a dedicated and acknowledged forum like Van? Why come here? Not that its an issue...the point is why is there a need for TWO Canadian forums?
And thus, can I assume that no fucks are given for non-Canadians? A simple yes or no will do.
That wasn't "pissed off". That was just me being me. ac_gumpop
Quote from: "Renee"
That wasn't pissed off. That was just me being me. ac_gumpop
:) It was funny. That poem was out of place. It was funny to be called on it.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "asal"
And, it is a Canadian forum that should focus more on Canadian topics. We should agree on that before proceeding.
Grade B maple syrup is better (better taste although less dense) than grade A.
Unlike others, I am less kindly disposed towards you, although I recognise your right to an opinion, and that opinion deserves respect.
However, if this IS a Canadian forum, I would invite Fashionista to confirm that. Why then, don't many contributors such as yourselves confine yourself to a dedicated and acknowledged forum like Van? Why come here? Not that its an issue...the point is why is there a need for TWO Canadian forums?
And thus, can I assume that no fucks are given for non-Canadians? A simple yes or no will do.
I didn't think you would answer Spectre. Really, I was just soliciting opinions on maple syrup.
Quote from: "asal"
And, it is a Canadian forum that should focus more on Canadian topics. We should agree on that before proceeding.
I'm sorry.
Did I misread?
ha ha ha. I said that Chief Spectre, but I was teasing you! I'm glad you read it :) I'm glad you questioned it. Forget about it. I was just teasing you. And soliciting opinions on maple syrup, which is pretty much all we Canadians do.
Like half of the reg posters here are from somewhere else.
Does that count for something?
The more international, the better. Every place has different perspectives. One of my sisters lives in Europe - her opinion is completely influenced by living there.
Quote from: "asal"
ha ha ha. I said that Chief Spectre, but I was teasing you! I'm glad you read it :) I'm glad you questioned it. Forget about it. I was just teasing you. And soliciting opinions on maple syrup, which is pretty much all we Canadians do.
Oh, you're priceless.
Does anyone swallow your crap any more? Which face are you displaying here in TBC? The sweet, innocent and kindly face, or the treacherous, duplicitous visage?
Create a sub forum, how hard can that be?
Why does it have to be modded? are we not adults?
There are very few occasions that people have ever accused me of lying or being duplicitous.
Then add this one to the very few occasions. I'm sorry...I believe you enjoy running simultaneously with the fox whilst hunting with the hounds.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Then add this one to the very few occasions. I'm sorry...I believe you enjoy running simultaneously with the fox whilst hunting with the hounds.
It's a forum. Yes, I'm doing that. In real life I'm part of a martial arts group - I've never taken classes at a different group - it's important to the politics of this type of martial art that we're loyal. On the internet I post at memebee and have posted here. It's not duplicitous, it's chatting with two (2) different groups of posters. I never voted in the who's the worst mother poll or did anything mean. I never made mean references to anyone that posts here or on memebee, spectre.
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Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Then add this one to the very few occasions. I'm sorry...I believe you enjoy running simultaneously with the fox whilst hunting with the hounds.
It's a forum. Yes, I'm doing that. In real life I'm part of a martial arts group - I've never taken classes at a different group - it's important to the politics of this type of martial art that we're loyal. On the internet I post at memebee and have posted here. It's not duplicitous, it's chatting with two (2) different groups of posters. I never voted in the who's the worst mother poll or did anything mean. I never made mean references to anyone that posts here or on memebee, spectre.
I don't know what SPECTRE's problem is. It's great having you here, asal!
I think there's little value in having a sub-forum. This is not a fast paced forum, so there's really no need to categorize. Sub-categorizing is unlikely to draw new posters and I don't see the rationale that it will increase posting amongst the existing posters; I expect the opposite. Sub-forums decrease usability by reducing the visibility of topics. It requires another click to see the topics in the sub-forums, an effort that many won't take on a regular basis.
I also agree that the attack on Asal is totally unwarranted and that generally speaking, Asal is a delightful creature with a sparkle in her eye and a wit to match, who rarely speaks negatively of anyone. I would note that the effort to instill an us vs. them politic is likely to be far more damaging than having her around.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Then add this one to the very few occasions. I'm sorry...I believe you enjoy running simultaneously with the fox whilst hunting with the hounds.
Much as I luv ya Leo, this seems way out of line.
Asal does not play sides. She is also not the only one who posts in both forums .. certainly I do despite some animosities toward me in the "other" place .. maybe that is partly why I like to do it? ac_smile
From where I sit you are also a great poster ... all regulars here sure are too ... and I do not see why we cannot just post away without getting negatively personal
What say you?
Enjoy!!
What say you now? ... NO? Not yet? Try this
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I think there's little value in having a sub-forum. This is not a fast paced forum, so there's really no need to categorize. Sub-categorizing is unlikely to draw new posters and I don't see the rationale that it will increase posting amongst the existing posters; I expect the opposite. Sub-forums decrease usability by reducing the visibility of topics. It requires another click to see the topics in the sub-forums, an effort that many won't take on a regular basis.
Hello reel, thank you for your sound advice..
I want to get rid of guest posting..
It has turned into a place where a couple of immature posters from Vancouver Forum post insults.
ac_huh I don't visit guest posting, but I can't see people wanting to join here based on a guest posting area either. No value. You want to get rid of it, do it.
I can't really see there being a mass of new posters coming, but if the goal is to increase numbers, the discussion should be about what draws people in. Sub-categorization is unlikely to do that. My belief is that forums attract posters much like celestial bodies attract mass. A strong, cohesive central mass exerts a gravitational attraction that draws them in. In the case of a forum, this has little to do with structure. It has to do with a sense of community. Even a few posters if they possess some charisma and an open attitude can draw in new comers, who are looking for a welcoming community.
You obviously get this Fash, whether consciously or not. You are trying to build a sense of community and respond kindly to a new person or rare poster every time. Some of the others don't seem to get it.
There are some charismatic individuals here. The best route is to encourage them to do what they do.
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I don't visit guest posting, but I can't see people wanting to join here based on a guest posting area either. No value. You want to get rid of it, do it.
I can't really see there being a mass of new posters coming, but if the goal is to increase numbers, the discussion should be about what draws people in. Sub-categorization is unlikely to do that. My belief is that forums attract posters much like celestial bodies attract mass. A strong, cohesive central mass exerts a gravitational attraction that draws them in. In the case of a forum, this has little to do with structure. It has to do with a sense of community. Even a few posters if they possess some charisma and an open attitude can draw in new comers, who are looking for a welcoming community.
You obviously get this Fash, whether consciously or not. You respond kindly to a new person or rare poster every time. Some of the others don't seem to get it.
I used to like my little guest posting area..
It was light hearted and the tone was friendly..
Recently it it being used only by people who want to start flame wars..
That is disappointing.
I like the pizza thread in guest posting. I saw it yesterday :)
Reel, I think it's worth a shot to try out categories IMHO. Nothing to lose frankly and easy to revert back if need be. This place has always had a spirit of experimentation - why stop now?
Who's going to move the threads that SPECTRE doesn't want to see into this new sub-forum?
I'll happily do it, ya fucking smart ass.
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I like the pizza thread in guest posting. I saw it yesterday :)
The guest poster who posted that was OK.
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I'll happily do it, ya fucking smart ass.
No, you happily won't.
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No, you happily won't.
If no other admin or mod wants to, I'll happily step up. You on the other hand can sit your ax grinding ass down.
Nobody deserves having their threads removed from the main page just because he doesn't want to see them.
He advocated for categories long ago. Most people who post regularly expressed wanting to try it. You are being obstinate because you don't like him.
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
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He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
I have been on forums where it did work. They had a lot more traffic though. If we allowed guests to view us again and added some new posters it MIGHT work. However, as it stands right now, I tend to agree with you.
You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
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Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
I have been on forums where it did work. They had a lot more traffic though. If we allowed guests to view us again and added some new posters it MIGHT work. However, as it stands right now, I tend to agree with you.
I've seen small forums have way more posts because of categories. I saw it on Blurt's board. I've seen it on start ups. They work regardless of traffic as I was under an earlier impression that they didn't as well.
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You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
If it's what members want then we'll give it a shot. I'm sure it'll be a smashing success. We'll call it "The Heat II".
But threads are not going to be removed from the main page just because ONE poster doesn't want to see them.
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Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
I have been on forums where it did work. They had a lot more traffic though. If we allowed guests to view us again and added some new posters it MIGHT work. However, as it stands right now, I tend to agree with you.
I've seen small forums have way more posts because of categories. I saw it on Blurt's board. I've seen it on start ups. They work regardless of traffic as I was under an earlier impression that they didn't as well.
Blurtsome currently doesn't have any sub-forums.
The original Blurtsome ya ninny. It was more active than the current one has been.
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Quote from: "RW"
You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
If it's what members want then we'll give it a shot. I'm sure it'll be a smashing success. We'll call it "The Heat II".
But threads are not going to be removed from the main page just because ONE poster doesn't want to see them.
Pick up your needle slappy.
Personally I don't see why anyone would want to post here if they have to sift through pages and pages of shit just to find a topic that interests them. Categories will make it much easier to identify topics you are interested in. Almost every other forum I've belonged to for the past decade eventually went to a category type format and it seemed to have worked. The resistance to trying something new smacks way too much of Van like atitudes.
I wonder if there would be so much push back if someone other than Spectre had suggested it.
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
If it's what members want then we'll give it a shot. I'm sure it'll be a smashing success. We'll call it "The Heat II".
But threads are not going to be removed from the main page just because ONE poster doesn't want to see them.
Romerotard, you can shove your forum up your ignorant ass.
If that is to be your attitude, fuck you and fuck your forum.
Quote from: "Renee"
Personally I don't see why anyone would want to post here if they have to sift through pages and pages of shit just to find a topic that interests them. Categories will make it much easier to identify topics you are interested in. Almost every other forum I've belonged to for the past decade eventually went to a category type format and it seemed to have worked. The resistance to trying something new smacks way too much of Van like atitudes.
I wonder if there would be so much push back if someone other than Spectre had suggested it.
He doesn't just want categories. He wants threads he doesn't like removed from the main page into those categories. And you've already called the idea a "waste of time" earlier in this thread.
Quote from: "Renee"
Personally I don't see why anyone would want to post here if they have to sift through pages and pages of shit just to find a topic that interests them. Categories will make it much easier to identify topics you are interested in. Almost every other forum I've belonged to for the past decade eventually went to a category type format and it seemed to have worked. The resistance to trying something new smacks way too much of Van like atitudes.
I wonder if there would be so much push back if someone other than Spectre had suggested it.
Of course not. Romero doesn't like him. Period.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
If it's what members want then we'll give it a shot. I'm sure it'll be a smashing success. We'll call it "The Heat II".
But threads are not going to be removed from the main page just because ONE poster doesn't want to see them.
Romerotard, you can shove your forum up your ignorant ass.
If that is to be your attitude, fuck you and fuck your forum.
It's not HIS forum. He has ONE opinion and it's an opinion that the majority doesn't seem to share.
Calm down.
Quote from: "RW"
Of course not. Romero doesn't like him. Period.
One person does not have the right to decide which threads get removed from the main page.
Are you not listening to everyone else in this thread?
Has anyone said they would like their threads moved into some sub-forum against their wishes? I don't think so.
Go ahead and hold a vote.
Then let's make categories so no one is being moved into a "sub forum".
It's time for the, "DECIDER!" ac_toofunny
Quote from: "RW"
Then let's make categories so no one is being moved into a "sub forum".
We can make categories if our members want.
Hey Ro, thanks for sharing your opinion. I hope Fash has enough sense to read what you are ignoring.
I highly doubt Fash would ever want SPECTRE to decide which threads should be removed from the main page because he personally doesn't like them.
And there we have it folks. Romero denying the idea of a poster because HE doesn't like him.
Thanks for showing your personal bias over the interest of this forum and its members.
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Personally I don't see why anyone would want to post here if they have to sift through pages and pages of shit just to find a topic that interests them. Categories will make it much easier to identify topics you are interested in. Almost every other forum I've belonged to for the past decade eventually went to a category type format and it seemed to have worked. The resistance to trying something new smacks way too much of Van like atitudes.
I wonder if there would be so much push back if someone other than Spectre had suggested it.
He doesn't just want categories. He wants threads he doesn't like removed from the main page into those categories. And you've already called the idea a "waste of time" earlier in this thread.
He wants threads put into categories. It has very little to do with what he likes or doesn't like. SPECTRE has no problem with the threads themselves. This whole issue was generated because last week there were about 5 threads on front page were devoted to the Candian elections and they were clogging the main page. You would know this If you could manage to read more than one or two of the most recent posts in any given thread.
As for whether or not I think it's a waste of time is sort of irrelevant. Again if you could read you would understand that I was against posting in a sociopolitical sub forum based on the current membership. I am of the opinion that any sociopolitical discussions within the confines of this small circle will do nothing but degenerate into the kind of useless circular arguements that are a waste of time. BUT that doesn't mean I'm against sub categorization of topics, especially if someone is willing to make the effort to moderate and maintain the sub.
I still don't understand why you are against this idea other than the fact that you have an issue with SPECTRE.
I assure you Renee had you or Shen or anyone else suggested it, there wouldn't be this debate. Frankly, Romero's attitude reeks of VF, which I think most of us agree we don't want to be just another version of.
Quote from: "Renee"
He wants threads put into categories. It has very little to do with what he likes or doesn't like. SPECTRE has no problem with the threads themselves.
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
because its buried beneath issues about Canada, in which a number of us have no interest
I knew this was really about your dislike of Canadian threads!
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I thought this place was not going to be a carbon copy of Van...where the Canadian theme is part of its DNA, and so is perfectly reasonable to expect.
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
That's what I propose we rename this forum to.
5 threads about CANADIAN politics???
ac_wot
As you can see, he doesn't like the Canadian threads and wants them removed from the main page. He has gone into some of these threads to complain about them.
He does not like them.
Right now there are three threads regarding Canadian issues out of twenty-five on the main page. That's not a huge deal or hassle, and they don't deserve to be hidden away in some sub-forum because one person doesn't like them.
I found 5 threads about the same thing annoying. Am I evil too?
Keep digging that hole Romero.
Romero and hysterics, perfect together.
Why am I not surprised?
It's the way he rolls. What's worse is Spec seems to give him weight.
Quote from: "RW"
I found 5 threads about the same thing annoying. Am I evil too?
Keep digging that hole Romero.
Would you remove threads you don't like from the main page?
Quote from: "Renee"
Romero and hysterics, perfect together.
Why am I not surprised?
I'm not the one constantly whining about threads I personally don't like. I believe posters have the right to have their threads on the main page.
I support putting in categories as a trial for facilitating conversation.
Without mentioning Spectre's comments, what is your reason for opposing trying this?
Quote from: "RW"
It's the way he rolls. What's worse is Spec seems to give him weight.
Unfortunately we all give him weight by engaging his hysterical irrationality. As you said, he is one opinion and the decision is not up solely to him. If Fash sees merit in making one or more sub forums it will happen.
I just hope she doesn't give him more weight because he wears the green.
Quote from: "RW"
I support putting in categories as a trial for facilitating conversation.
Without mentioning Spectre's comments, what is your reason for opposing trying this?
I don't oppose categories or sub-forums if posters want them.
I'm opposed to SPECTRE personally deciding which threads should be removed from the main page.
Yikes, just look at how hysterical I'm being. If you don't understand what "hysterical" means.
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Romero and hysterics, perfect together.
Why am I not surprised?
I'm not the one constantly whining about threads I personally don't like. I believe posters have the right to have their threads on the main page.
Exactly,so that after a few days they can disappear into a morass of shit never to be found again. ac_rollseyes
I hate to break it to you but that is an inefficient and antiquated format.
Quote from: "Renee"
I couldn't agree more. Unless this place gets a huge influx of new blood, a sociopolitical forum will fail. Arguing sociopolitical point's of view among the regulars will be a complete waste of time. It's all been done before and it is just so tiresome to see the same and worn out arguments chased round and round with no resolution in sight. I do not relish the thought of taking part in a political forum so that the usual suspects can turn each thread into what amounts to nothing but a verbal circle jerk.
But on the other hand, if someone wants to devote the time and energy to maintain a sociopolitical forum then so be it. Let them knock themselves out. ac_cool
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
I couldn't agree more. Unless this place gets a huge influx of new blood, a sociopolitical forum will fail. Arguing sociopolitical point's of view among the regulars will be a complete waste of time. It's all been done before and it is just so tiresome to see the same and worn out arguments chased round and round with no resolution in sight. I do not relish the thought of taking part in a political forum so that the usual suspects can turn each thread into what amounts to nothing but a verbal circle jerk.
But on the other hand, if someone wants to devote the time and energy to maintain a sociopolitical forum then so be it. Let them knock themselves out. ac_cool
You're an illiterate fool but I don't need to call attention to it as you do a great job all by yourself. ac_toofunny
When are you ever going to learn?
That isn't your original response to SPECTRE's idea? I'm pretty sure it is! Your words. "A sociopolitical forum will fail... a complete waste of time."
Now you want one?
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Quote from: "reel"
I think there's little value in having a sub-forum. This is not a fast paced forum, so there's really no need to categorize. Sub-categorizing is unlikely to draw new posters and I don't see the rationale that it will increase posting amongst the existing posters; I expect the opposite. Sub-forums decrease usability by reducing the visibility of topics. It requires another click to see the topics in the sub-forums, an effort that many won't take on a regular basis.
Hello reel, thank you for your sound advice..
I want to get rid of guest posting..
It has turned into a place where a couple of immature posters from Vancouver Forum post insults.
You could always rename it the immature posters from Vancouver Forum insult posting forum. =))
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "reel"
I think there's little value in having a sub-forum. This is not a fast paced forum, so there's really no need to categorize. Sub-categorizing is unlikely to draw new posters and I don't see the rationale that it will increase posting amongst the existing posters; I expect the opposite. Sub-forums decrease usability by reducing the visibility of topics. It requires another click to see the topics in the sub-forums, an effort that many won't take on a regular basis.
Hello reel, thank you for your sound advice..
I want to get rid of guest posting..
It has turned into a place where a couple of immature posters from Vancouver Forum post insults.
You could always rename it the immature posters from Vancouver Forum insult posting forum. =))
Thank you for your suggestion easter bunny, but I don't want to bring back guest posting.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "reel"
I think there's little value in having a sub-forum. This is not a fast paced forum, so there's really no need to categorize. Sub-categorizing is unlikely to draw new posters and I don't see the rationale that it will increase posting amongst the existing posters; I expect the opposite. Sub-forums decrease usability by reducing the visibility of topics. It requires another click to see the topics in the sub-forums, an effort that many won't take on a regular basis.
Hello reel, thank you for your sound advice..
I want to get rid of guest posting..
It has turned into a place where a couple of immature posters from Vancouver Forum post insults.
You could always rename it the immature posters from Vancouver Forum insult posting forum. =))
Thank you for your suggestion easter bunny, but I don't want to bring back guest posting.
I was only kidding anyway. =))
Quote from: "Romero"
That isn't your original response to SPECTRE's idea? I'm pretty sure it is! Your words. "A sociopolitical forum will fail... a complete waste of time."
Now you want one?
I explained and ellaborated my position quite clearly and it is not what you are trying to portray.
This is typical of you. You've been exposed for the hysterical insipid fool that you are so you have resorted to being deceptive and disingenuous.
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
I support putting in categories as a trial for facilitating conversation.
Without mentioning Spectre's comments, what is your reason for opposing trying this?
I don't oppose categories or sub-forums if posters want them.
I'm opposed to SPECTRE personally deciding which threads should be removed from the main page.
Yikes, just look at how hysterical I'm being. If you don't understand what "hysterical" means.
He doesn't have the ability to decide. That's up to Fash so your concern is MOOT.
And YAY! Romero doesn't oppose sub-categories! He just opposes the made up crap he invented.
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
I support putting in categories as a trial for facilitating conversation.
Without mentioning Spectre's comments, what is your reason for opposing trying this?
I don't oppose categories or sub-forums if posters want them.
I'm opposed to SPECTRE personally deciding which threads should be removed from the main page.
Yikes, just look at how hysterical I'm being. If you don't understand what "hysterical" means.
He doesn't have the ability to decide. That's up to Fash so your concern is MOOT.
And YAY! Romero doesn't oppose sub-categories! He just opposes the made up crap he invented.
"made up crap" = Hysterics.
I think Romero is starting to sound like........Munday? ac_umm
Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
Aha! Therein lies the problem. It's pageism! The assumption that a sub-forum is somehow inferior to the main page. This is not nor should it be the case. A sub-forum is simply a division of the main forum that is specific to a certain topic or range of topics. There's no inferiority implied. It just makes it easier for people to find what they are looking for.
Anyway, I'm glad that's settled.
Quote from: "RW"
You are stuck on repeat Ro. Categories aren't punishment and can you explain if he hates these thread so much, why has he agreed to spend so much time with them in a sub forum?
I'd like to try CATEGORIES like MOST FORUMS DO to see how it works out.
As a German I just vant to say zet I'm all in favour of keeping sings neat und organized, ja. =)
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
Aha! Therein lies the problem. It's pageism! The assumption that a sub-forum is somehow inferior to the main page. This is not nor should it be the case. A sub-forum is simply a division of the main forum that is specific to a certain topic or range of topics. There's no inferiority implied. It just makes it easier for people to find what they are looking for.
Thank you, Easter Bunny!
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
Aha! Therein lies the problem. It's pageism! The assumption that a sub-forum is somehow inferior to the main page. This is not nor should it be the case. A sub-forum is simply a division of the main forum that is specific to a certain topic or range of topics. There's no inferiority implied. It just makes it easier for people to find what they are looking for.
Thank you, Easter Bunny!
:howdy:
I still disagree with the idea of subgroups or categories. I think it decreases usability. Only use I've ever had for them on a small forum was segregating posts that certain posters just wouldn't allow to die. As soon as they were segregated into the subforum, they did die.
On a big forum, they serve to develop sub communities within the larger community. I don't see that happening here.
Maybe you are thinking too small reel.
I think it's worth trying.
I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
If you are going to make anything into a subforum, make one for threads about the site itself, like this one. you've got enough of those on the main page filling up space without adding any community content.
You mean sorta have something like we just had?
Hrm....that's not the idea.
Quote from: "reel"
I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place and Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including the existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "reel"
I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place a Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
I totally agree with Renee and share in her frustration about how the board is scattered. Pooh thread? Really?
we need to fix this shit right now.
OK, I agree that since all the guest posting threads just got merged with the main ones, it's pretty messy, but that will be temporary. Realistically, I think the majority of those guest posts should just have been deleted.
What will bring more people is a culture and a community that people can relate to. Somewhere with interesting discussion that you might actually tell a friend about. I really don't think that depends on the structure of the board.
Anyway, I don't think it will do that much harm to categorize other than slowing down or reducing existing posting, so go ahead and try it.
Quote from: "reel"
OK, I agree that since all the guest posting threads just got merged with the main ones, it's pretty messy, but that will be temporary. Realistically, I think the majority of those guest posts should just have been deleted.
What will bring more people is a culture and a community that people can relate to. Somewhere with interesting discussion that you might actually tell a friend about. I really don't think that depends on the structure of the board.
Anyway, I don't think it will do that much harm to categorize other than slowing down or reducing existing posting, so go ahead and try it.
It will not be temporary as long as the few turds are still posting here.
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "reel"
OK, I agree that since all the guest posting threads just got merged with the main ones, it's pretty messy, but that will be temporary. Realistically, I think the majority of those guest posts should just have been deleted.
What will bring more people is a culture and a community that people can relate to. Somewhere with interesting discussion that you might actually tell a friend about. I really don't think that depends on the structure of the board.
Anyway, I don't think it will do that much harm to categorize other than slowing down or reducing existing posting, so go ahead and try it.
It will not be temporary as long as the few turds are still posting here.
Out of pure morbid curiosity I took a look at Van the other day. It was the first time in weeks that I was either dumb or bored enough to lurk at the monkey ranch and I have to tell you, I wasn't disappointed. The place was exactly as I expected. Every thread on the main page was either started by or dominated by the usual brigade of ree-ree's and their mommy/caretaker. Almost every thread, IMHO, was a throw-away, full of nut-jobs spouting nonsense and coddling of the said nut-jobs by the asylum staff.
I think mixing the "Guest Forum" and the "turds" that lived in it with the main board was a mistake as it only adds to the messiness and most of all, I'm extremely puzzled at what it was supposed to accomplish. Personally I think it adds a bit of a repellent vibe to the place that any non-freak is going to pick up on almost immediately and as you say, it's probably not going to go away. I for one do not want this place to become a home for miscreants, perverts, and leg humping apes the way that Van has.
I agree Renee or at least if this place is going to allow these folks, they should be confined.
Quote from: "RW"
I agree Renee or at least if this place is going to allow these folks, they should be confined.
I agree; confinement is probably the best option. I mean we can put them on ignore but that doesn't help make this forum an attractive place to hang out. It just ignores the turds floating in the punch bowl.
Personally I'm kinda exasperated that we are still having to deal with issue when this is one of the reasons why many of us migrated here from Van. ac_dunno My main beef with evs and my reason for being such a bitch to her was because she out and out refused to get rid of or even reign in the creeps.
Yes the blocked board looks attractive to every1 outside our little community.
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
I agree Renee or at least if this place is going to allow these folks, they should be confined.
I agree; confinement is probably the best option. I mean we can put them on ignore but that doesn't help make this forum an attractive place to hang out. It just ignores the turds floating in the punch bowl.
Personally I'm kinda exasperated that we are still having to deal with issue when this is one of the reasons why many of us migrated here from Van. ac_dunno My main beef with evs and my reason for being such a bitch to her was because she out and out refused to get rid of or even reign in the creeps.
Again, I agree.
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Romero"
He's talking about removing threads he doesn't like off the main page. He's one poster. Why should he get to decide where everyone else gets to post? I don't want any of my threads removed from the main page. Nobody does.
I don't like his threads. So make a sub-forum for his threads and I'll move them all there. Okay?
Aha! Therein lies the problem. It's pageism! The assumption that a sub-forum is somehow inferior to the main page. This is not nor should it be the case. A sub-forum is simply a division of the main forum that is specific to a certain topic or range of topics. There's no inferiority implied. It just makes it easier for people to find what they are looking for.
It's discrimination. ac_razz
So the little girl didnt get her will through...
She got mad at mommy.
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "reel"
I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place a Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
I totally agree with Renee and share in her frustration about how the board is scattered. Pooh thread? Really?
we need to fix this shit right now.
That thread should be deleted. Can you do that Keeper? If you can, you should.
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "reel"
I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place a Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
I totally agree with Renee and share in her frustration about how the board is scattered. Pooh thread? Really?
we need to fix this shit right now.
That thread should be deleted. Can you do that Keeper? If you can, you should.
Yes he can.
I honestly thought when you said you were getting rid of guest posting, you meant that you were getting rid of guest posting - ie. pushing the big red delete button and evacuating the whole mess.
Quote from: "reel"
I honestly thought when you said you were getting rid of guest posting, you meant that you were getting rid of guest posting - ie. pushing the big red delete button and evacuating the whole mess.
Whatever reels, just as long as it's gone.
So what's the word Fash?
Quote from: "RW"
So what's the word Fash?
I'm sorry RW, what's the question?
ac_blush
Categories/sub forums - we giving it a go? Yay or nay?
Quote from: "RW"
Categories/sub forums - we giving it a go? Yay or nay?
Sure we can RW..
Do you want to start with politics?
Should I start it new or put some threads in it?
Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
Quote from: "RW"
Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
What do you suggest as a name for it?
Will politics do?
Quote from: "RW"
Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
I don't want to use the term "prison" but can it be like permanent and escape proof? ac_biggrin acc_brix
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Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
What do you suggest as a name for it?
Will politics do?
Sure
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Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
What do you suggest as a name for it?
Will politics do?
Sure
Politics it will be then RW..
We can always change it or even get rid of the sub forum if posters want to.
Sure can :)
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Sure can :)
I have to empty the dishwasher, clean the table and counters, sweep and then I will do it..
I will say in three quarters of an hour.
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I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place a Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
I totally agree with Renee and share in her frustration about how the board is scattered. Pooh thread? Really?
we need to fix this shit right now.
That thread should be deleted. Can you do that Keeper? If you can, you should.
Done!! ac_biggrin
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I never think too small.
You need more people for this to have value. If you want more people, you need to focus on what will bring you more, not structure things as though it were so and wish that it was.
This forum is a stream of consciousness. It's not unmanageable in it's present state, so there's no reason to split the stream.
If you want to, then do it, but it won't actually affect anything other than forcing you to click on more things and remember where you were in two streams instead of just one.
Well what's going to bring more people here? A big pile of disorganized shit, scattered all over any number of pages or a neat and orderly format where topics of interest are easier to locate?
Currently both this place a Van are of the big pile of crap type of forum. Now ask yourself; exactly how many new members has either place attracted in the past year? I think the answer is almost none. And yes I'm NOT including existing nuisance posters creating additional handles. Those we can do completely without.
I'm all for trying a new format. I'm not saying every category is going to be a hit but it can't perform any worse than the current format has. Right now the stagnation in terms of new incoming members is growing more obvious by the day.
I totally agree with Renee and share in her frustration about how the board is scattered. Pooh thread? Really?
we need to fix this shit right now.
That thread should be deleted. Can you do that Keeper? If you can, you should.
Done!! ac_biggrin
Thanks pal. ac_drinks
Soon all the former guest posting threads will be off the first page.
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Start it fresh so Romero doesn't cry.
Maybe make a new home for our more "colourful" posters like Odinson and RDL.
What do you suggest as a name for it?
Will politics do?
I was thinking of "Spectre's Spitoon"...but that is a bit coarse.
Good call, Fashionista. Saved the day, so to speak. I will do all I can to create threads that attract interest and discussion, and I'm sure if Canadian politics are included it will appeal to all.
No threads need to be moved, except at the discretion of the mods. I do hope Romerotard embraces his responsibility to the forum, and does his very best to exclude personal feelings from the issue.
And if he has any personal issues, my PM box is available to him 24/7.
Unless he does a Munday.... ac_umm
I have a lot of personal issues. Why does only Romero get the offer to talk about his?
That was an unfortunate top
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I was thinking of "Spectre's Spitoon"...but that is a bit coarse.
Good call, Fashionista. Saved the day, so to speak. I will do all I can to create threads that attract interest and discussion, and I'm sure if Canadian politics are included it will appeal to all.
No threads need to be moved, except at the discretion of the mods. I do hope Romerotard embraces his responsibility to the forum, and does his very best to exclude personal feelings from the issue.
And if he has any personal issues, my PM box is available to him 24/7.
Unless he does a Munday.... ac_umm
What are you talking about Sox? He's not crazy about the idea, that's all.
He's not crazy about it because of personal animosity. THAT'S all.
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I have a lot of personal issues. Why does only Romero get the offer to talk about his?
I'm sure Spec will accept your PM :)
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He's not crazy about it because of personal animosity. THAT'S all.
Personal animosity?? I'm not crazy about your suggestion either, but it has nothing to do with "personal animosity".
Shen, he even said he had no problem with sub forums as long as Spec wasn't deciding on threads.
It was obvious it was personal.
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Shen, he even said he had no problem with sub forums as long as Spec wasn't deciding on threads.
It was obvious it was personal.
I am not going to speak on Ro's behalf. However, from what you have just said, it sounds like Ro is saying how do you decide which threads meet the politics litmus test. Let's let him explain it himself.
Ro already spoke. It's how a few of us came to said conclusion.
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Ro already spoke. It's how a few of us came to said conclusion.
It's too late to go back and search, but I would like Ro to explain what he meant himself....even if he did it already.
By all means but it's rather moot.
You're grumpy. What's up?
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By all means but it's rather moot.
You're grumpy. What's up?
Am I coming across that way? No, not pissed off at all. I have to go to Winnipeg next week, but there are worse things.
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By all means but it's rather moot.
You're grumpy. What's up?
Am I coming across that way? No, not pissed off at all. I have to go to Winnipeg next week, but there are worse things.
Not much hahaha
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By all means but it's rather moot.
You're grumpy. What's up?
Am I coming across that way? No, not pissed off at all. I have to go to Winnipeg next week, but there are worse things.
Not much hahaha
ac_tongue
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He's not crazy about it because of personal animosity. THAT'S all.
Personal animosity?? I'm not crazy about your suggestion either, but it has nothing to do with "personal animosity".
Just post in the sub-forum, or I'll kick your chink ass.
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He's not crazy about it because of personal animosity. THAT'S all.
Personal animosity?? I'm not crazy about your suggestion either, but it has nothing to do with "personal animosity".
Just post in the sub-forum, or I'll kick your chink ass.
ac_wot
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Shen, he even said he had no problem with sub forums as long as Spec wasn't deciding on threads.
It was obvious it was personal.
I am not going to speak on Ro's behalf. However, from what you have just said, it sounds like Ro is saying how do you decide which threads meet the politics litmus test. Let's let him explain it himself.
Nothing personal! He wanted certain threads he didn't like removed from the main forum into a sub-forum and I disagreed. I would disagree no matter who it was.
I have no problem giving a political sub-forum a shot! Though I don't think it's busy enough here for sub-forums.
We shall see how it goes :)
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Shen, he even said he had no problem with sub forums as long as Spec wasn't deciding on threads.
It was obvious it was personal.
I am not going to speak on Ro's behalf. However, from what you have just said, it sounds like Ro is saying how do you decide which threads meet the politics litmus test. Let's let him explain it himself.
Nothing personal! He wanted certain threads he didn't like removed from the main forum into a sub-forum and I disagreed. I would disagree no matter who it was.
I have no problem giving a political sub-forum a shot! Though I don't think it's busy enough here for sub-forums.
That's what I thought. That's about how I see things too.
As RW says, give it a shot and we'll see how it goes.
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Nothing personal! He wanted certain threads he didn't like removed from the main forum into a sub-forum and I disagreed. I would disagree no matter who it was.
I have no problem giving a political sub-forum a shot! Though I don't think it's busy enough here for sub-forums.
BULLSHIT!!! At NO stage was there ever a mention of threads being moved. In fact I made it ABUNDANTLY clear in both PM to you, and to the members, that there is no change to how the place is moderated.
Don't try to re-invent history. You were beligerent because it was me behind the request...and other members have the evidence of that should you wish to continue the debate any further.
Okay time to hug it out.
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Nothing personal! He wanted certain threads he didn't like removed from the main forum into a sub-forum and I disagreed. I would disagree no matter who it was.
I have no problem giving a political sub-forum a shot! Though I don't think it's busy enough here for sub-forums.
BULLSHIT!!! At NO stage was there ever a mention of threads being moved. In fact I made it ABUNDANTLY clear in both PM to you, and to the members, that there is no change to how the place is moderated.
Don't try to re-invent history. You were beligerent because it was me behind the request...and other members have the evidence of that should you wish to continue the debate any further.
People disgree Sox, get over it. The sticking point is not always YOU personally......jeesh!!
Shen...it was because it was him. I have no doubt about that.
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Shen...it was because it was him. I have no doubt about that.
I am not saying whether Ro likes Sox or not. I really don't know and it's none of my biz anyway. What I am saying is that just because someone does not like his suggestion does not mean it's personal.
And sometimes, it's personal.
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And sometimes, it's personal.
In this case, only Romero knows the real answer to that.
And me because I know everything :)
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And me because I know everything :)
Of course you do.
I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
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I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
ac_toofunny
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I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
I want a pair of grumpy pants damn it acc_angry
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I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
Am not. ac_tongue
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I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
I want a pair of grumpy pants damn it acc_angry
I'll draw you up a pair!
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I know you're wearing your grumpy pants Mrs. Li!
I want a pair of grumpy pants damn it acc_angry
I'll draw you up a pair!
ac_toofunny
ac_dance