According to RW, Keeper, and Romero, straight people can only lose their virginity through vaginal sex, and gay men can only lose their virginity through anal sex.
But what about lesbians? How is it possible for them to lose their virginity if there's no penis involved?
Oh, and strap-on's don't count as sex, since there's no exchange of fluids.
Have you never heard of fingers or strap-ons.
The loss of virginity doesn't require an exchange of fluids.
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How come Lesbians can lose their virginity by fingers or strap-on's, but gay men can't lose their virginity by oral sex?
Oral sex has an exchange of fluids. Fingers and strap-on's don't.
Grasping at straws. You're still a virgin.
Oral sex involves putting one's penis in someone else's body, therefore sexual contact. Strap-on's are not actual sexual contact.
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Tell that to someone that just lost their hymen. Be sure and duck when they swing at you.
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Tell that to someone that just lost their hymen. Be sure and duck when they swing at you.
Strap-on's are a form of masturbation, since strap-on's are a sex toy.
Strap-on's are sexual contact between a person and a toy, not sexual contact between two people.
Also, fingering is masturbation too.
If gay men can't lose their virginity through masturbation, then Lesbians can't either.
It is a complicated subject but "The traditional view is that virginity is only lost through vaginal penetration by the penis, consensual or non-consensual, and that acts of oral sex, anal sex, mutual masturbation or other forms of non-penetrative sex do not result in loss of virginity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginity#Definitions_of_virginity_loss
Now that is the traditional view which I, like most people, were taught to think of as a loss of virginity. Your point of view may be different and really, WHO FUCKING CARES? It's nobodies business but your own.
No wonder so many people want to twist your head right off your fucking shoulders. You are an incredibly annoying little flea who doesn't know when to STFU! acc_angry
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginity#Definitions_of_virginity_loss
Now that is the traditional view which I, like most people, was raised to think of as a loss of virginity. Your point of view may be different and really, WHO FUCKING CARES? It's nobodies business but your own.
No wonder so many people want to twist your head right off your fucking shoulders. You are an incredibly annoying little flea who doesn't know when to STFU! acc_angry
So gay men who have anal sex are still virgins?
Thank you so much ac_dance
Why is this being replayed almost literally on both forums?
What a lot of fuss about nothing. Virginity is what you wish it to be or how it strikes you.
Mate & I have great fun with thinking up new twists and then "losing our virginity" to it. We are somewhere in the 100s of so far. Every time we think we have lost the last possible virginity, so will have to settle for the same old, one of us thinks up a new one. I highly recommend it for committed couples
So many virginities to lose .. so little time
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Because I want to hear different perspectives on this issue.
Well you will never get a real answer. All you will get is one person's perspective from one person.
What one was thought of as simple has become a subjective subject ... and can vary greatly from one person (or scientific source) to another.
All that matter is what it is to you
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What one was thought of as simple has become a subjective subject ... and can vary greatly from one person (or scientific source) to another.
All that matter is what it is to you
Thank you ac_dance
Blue Frost says it doesn't matter for guys.
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You have no hyman to break, there is no way to show proof, it's really a mute point.
For a woman it matters physically since you can show proof, she can be a virgin unlike a man who just didn't have sex, or did.
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What one was thought of as simple has become a subjective subject ... and can vary greatly from one person (or scientific source) to another.
All that matter is what it is to you
That's all well and good but as far as I'm concerned, RDL is a virgin.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
Hey!! Don't you get on my friend bluey
I may be smaller than you, but I'm quick and dirty
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I may be smaller than you, but I'm quick and dirty
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Bring it, bitch. ac_toofunny
Hrm. I wonder what virginity Renee is going to lose to cc...
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
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But what about lesbians? How is it possible for them to lose their virginity if there's no penis involved?
The proper way to lose your virginity is to get married first.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
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But what about lesbians? How is it possible for them to lose their virginity if there's no penis involved?
The proper way to lose your virginity is to get married first.
That's been done and it hasn't worked out so well. People like to try it before they buy it.
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I wonder what virginity I have left to lose.
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But what about lesbians? How is it possible for them to lose their virginity if there's no penis involved?
The proper way to lose your virginity is to get married first.
That's been done and it hasn't worked out so well. People like to try it before they buy it.
It worked for my husband and I are RW..
But I know most people would disagree with us.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
I'm saying you're a virgin because you are.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
Hahaha
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
No?.....Yes you did.
Hot lesbians lose their virginities the same way as regular women.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
No?.....Yes you did.
Oh yeah that's right... I did insinuate that you're lying... because you did lie... you said Blue Frost was a virgin... I know he's not.
Was he the one who put his penis in your mouth?
He doesn't strike me as that kind of guy.
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No.
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Because he's not.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
No?.....Yes you did.
Oh yeah that's right... I did insinuate that you're lying... because you did lie... you said Blue Frost was a virgin...
How do you know that?
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
No?.....Yes you did.
Oh yeah that's right... I did insinuate that you're lying... because you did lie... you said Blue Frost was a virgin...
How do you know that?
Because he told me.
http://bluefrost.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1711#p102902
Calling a spade a spade isn't mean Richard.
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Sometimes it is.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spade
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Why are you offended at being called the virgin that you are? Are you ashamed of your lack of sexual experience?
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I do not have a lack of sexual experience.
I have oral sexual experience, but not anal sexual experience or vaginal sexual experience.
So you lack sexual experience. Why are you ashamed of that fact?
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I do not lack sexual experience.
I do not lack oral sexual experience.
I only lack anal sexual experience and vaginal sexual experience.
How many d's have you s'ed?
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One.
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He only says that because he's a virgin too. ac_biggrin
No, he's not ac_rollseyes
Yes, he is.
Did he actually say that, or are you just making that up?
RW never lies.
She might be lying about Blue Frost.
Now you are insinuating that I'm lying.
I never said that.
No?.....Yes you did.
Oh yeah that's right... I did insinuate that you're lying... because you did lie... you said Blue Frost was a virgin...
How do you know that?
Because he told me.
http://bluefrost.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1711#p102902
You believe everything you read on the net?
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One.
And how many times has your d been s'ed?
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One.
And how many times has your d been s'ed?
Do you really want the answer to that question? ac_wot
How can I ascertain experience without asking?
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One.
And how many times has your d been s'ed?
Once.
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ac_huh
And you think "one" constitutes as being sexually experienced?
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Why is volume sexual experience important?
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"Ascertain experience"......... ac_lmfao
Let's face it, the poor guy is and has been "fucked" in the head for some time. I think that's good enough, don't you?
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Lack of sexual experience means none at all.
To be experienced, one must have knowledge or skill. Most of the time, that knowledge or skill is gained over time and through repetition.
I just can't bring myself to consider someone who has had ONE sexual encounter to be experienced. Denotatively speaking the dictionary can't seem to either.
The truth of the matter is that RDL is a virgin who has extremely limited sexual exposure.
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I just can't bring myself to consider someone who has had ONE sexual encounter to be experienced. Denotatively speaking the dictionary can't seem to either.
The truth of the matter is that RDL is a virgin who has extremely limited sexual exposure.
Alright. I'm a virgin. I admit it. Are you happy now?
Well I feel better now.
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The truth of the matter is that RDL is a virgin who has extremely limited sexual exposure.
I know I am not sexually experienced by some people's standards, but why does that matter?
We have two lovely children and we love each other..
Would we love each other more if either of us were not virgins prior to marriage?
Listen Fash, this is about the only interesting conversation I've had with RDL and we've been on the same boards for years. Does it "matter"? Of course not but I am still doing the little scamp a favour by clarifying matters of sexual experience because he's clearly confused.
It's just one of the many services I offer.
Hi Fash: What works for you is great. You do not need to defend it in any way
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Do you have a brochure?
ac_smile
I should make one haha.
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ac_sothere
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It's just one of the many services I offer.
Sorry RW, I thought this was about people that marry as virgins..
I will stay out of it.
I have total respect for people who marry virgins. Good on your having such self control :)
I'm merely reminding RDL that he's a virgin with extremely limited sexual experience. :)