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Title: Are you black or white
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on June 14, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Surprising accusations against an NAACP leader, Rachel Dolezal, in Spokane. Her parents say she's white and has been falsely portraying herself as a black woman.



Rachel as a teen:



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And Rachel today:



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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 14, 2015, 01:36:10 PM
progs are hilarious to watch . Just when we think we've seen all the foolishness inherent in progs, now  we have a Trans-racial ac_toofunny



not  a new story, but this orientation fiasco has been great entertainment  



even when caught with her white tits out / outed,  she continues



This one is yet another prog gift that keeps on giving



I wonder what their next Trans-show will bring to us  ???   ac_popcorn
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
A lefty told a lie? Tell us it isn't true Bob....you fucking tool.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
She is just another far left, nutball. These people are so far out in left field that rational people can't even relate to them in anyway. In this case, liberalism IS a form of mental illness.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2015, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: "Renee"She is just another far left, nutball. These people are so far out in left field that rational people can't even relate to them in anyway. In this case, liberalism IS a form of mental illness.

There are mentally ill conservatives too Renee. But, I agree this one is exceptionally crazy.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 14, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2015, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"..

 ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2015, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"She is just another far left, nutball. These people are so far out in left field that rational people can't even relate to them in anyway. In this case, liberalism IS a form of mental illness.

There are mentally ill conservatives too Renee. But, I agree this one is exceptionally crazy.


I know there are crazy conservatives but they are usually crazy in a different way. They usually get fanatical about issues. I'm not sure what issue this woman is even trying to promote. This bitch is so crazy she is doing a reverse Michael Jackson. ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on June 14, 2015, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: "Renee"She is just another far left, nutball. These people are so far out in left field that rational people can't even relate to them in anyway. In this case, liberalism IS a form of mental illness.


Only on this forum would the NAACP be considered 'far left'.  It was founded in a 1909, and is the longest-running civil rights organization in the USA.



I guess fighting for equal rights is 'far left' - which means this thread should now be in the Politics sub-forum.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2015, 06:57:34 PM
Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
Quote from: "Renee"She is just another far left, nutball. These people are so far out in left field that rational people can't even relate to them in anyway. In this case, liberalism IS a form of mental illness.


Only on this forum would the NAACP be considered 'far left'.  It was founded in a 1909, and is the longest-running civil rights organization in the USA.



I guess fighting for equal rights is 'far left' - which means this thread should now be in the Politics sub-forum.


  ac_lmfao and the stupidity just keeps coming.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Bricktop on June 14, 2015, 07:40:46 PM
We have white coons here in Oz as well. These leftards just need a cause within which they get noticed. They claim aboriginal blood when they are whiter than Renee's ass.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on June 14, 2015, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: "Renee"ac_lmfao and the stupidity just keeps coming.


says the echo    ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 14, 2015, 08:01:52 PM
Does that mean you support this lying sack of color re-oriented shit?



Her parents, brother and really pissed sister sure do not



Don't blow my cover': How NAACP leader told her adopted black brother not to let on that she was actually white as she built 'whole new identity' as civil rights activist (//http)
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Does that mean you support this lying sack of color re-oriented shit?



Her parents, brother and really pissed sister sure do not



Don't blow my cover': How NAACP leader told her adopted black brother not to let on that she was actually white as she built 'whole new identity' as civil rights activist (//http)

If Bob will support a lying, decadent, rich celebutard's publicity stunt/fight against Canadian jobs, why not this bitch?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 14, 2015, 11:02:23 PM
good point
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 15, 2015, 01:58:32 AM
The NAACP was formed with black leaders in mind to control the black masses as an elitist group.

They thought Whites should have elitist running them as well.



The woman has a mental disorder, to me it's not really funny at all, and I have seen it with people trying to act like they are native Americans, it is a sickness in their minds.



As for the NAACP, here is who they should have had leading them, he was a great man.

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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2015, 02:03:39 AM
Quote from: "Frost"The NAACP was formed with black leaders in mind to control the black masses as an elitist group.

They thought Whites should have elitist running them as well.



The woman has a mental disorder, to me it's not really funny at all, and I have seen it with people trying to act like they are native Americans, it is a sickness in their minds.



As for the NAACP, here is who they should have had leading them, he was a great man.

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I have heard of Booker T. Washington, but I did not know anything about him..



Thank you Frost.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 15, 2015, 02:06:15 AM
If you read about him you will like the man, he worked his way up, educated himself, took care, and taught others, and started as a slave.

He didn't use the blame game, he made himself a great person.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2015, 02:08:00 AM
Quote from: "Frost"If you read about him you will like the man, he worked his way up, educated himself, took care, and taught others, and started as a slave.

He didn't use the blame game, he made himself a great person.

I will read about him some time Frost..



But, now I'm going to sleep..



Goodnight Frost, it is so nice to see you here again.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 15, 2015, 02:11:06 AM
Goodnight, nice to see you if for a moment ac_wub  

I'm off also, sweet dreams all.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: "Frost"Goodnight, nice to see you if for a moment ac_wub  

I'm off also, sweet dreams all.

We all look forward to seeing you again Frost.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on June 15, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
Bill Clinton decribes himself as the 'first black president'
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 15, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
So, he beat this twit to the punch.



If only he had resigned over it as this twit just did!!
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2015, 12:40:44 PM
Bob doesn't seem to understand what an embarrassment this it to the NAACP. He also doesn't seem to be able to distinguish the difference between the loony bitch who is so mentally disturbed that she is mortified to be Caucasian and the organization she represents.



It's bad enough that over the years the NAACP has been reduced to a race baiting, irrelevant, political lobby, it now has to deal with another huge credibility black eye because of this nutjob in their midst. I don't know if this is indicative of the sentiment of most African Americans but the ones I know are appalled by this shit. Most blacks in the US generally do not take kindly to white people pretending to be black. To them it is the equivalent of old vaudeville style "black face" and an insult.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: kiebers on June 15, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
She has resigned. On Facebook no less...LOL

https://www.facebook.com/spokane.naacp?fref=ts
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 15, 2015, 05:40:38 PM
Now watch the liberals who backed her flee like rats



No wonder she wanted to be black: (//http) Rachel Dolezal sued Howard University in 2002 for racial discrimination because she was white, The Smoking Gun reported Monday.



Dolezal accused the historically black college of improperly blocking her job as a teaching assistant, rejecting her application to be a post-graduate instructor, and denying her scholarship aid. Dolezal also claimed the university removed some of her artwork from a student exhibition because it was "motivated by a discriminatory purpose to favor African-American students over" her. An appeals court dismissed the complaint in 2004 because it found there was no evidence of discrimination.



Progs are so much fun to watch
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2015, 05:50:22 PM
Is any one else reminded of that shitty 1980s movie "Soul Man"?  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Now watch the liberals who backed her flee like rats



No wonder she wanted to be black: (//http) Rachel Dolezal sued Howard University in 2002 for racial discrimination because she was white, The Smoking Gun reported Monday.



Dolezal accused the historically black college of improperly blocking her job as a teaching assistant, rejecting her application to be a post-graduate instructor, and denying her scholarship aid. Dolezal also claimed the university removed some of her artwork from a student exhibition because it was "motivated by a discriminatory purpose to favor African-American students over" her. An appeals court dismissed the complaint in 2004 because it found there was no evidence of discrimination.



Progs are so much fun to watch

That is ironic cc la femme.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2015, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Now watch the liberals who backed her flee like rats



No wonder she wanted to be black: (//http) Rachel Dolezal sued Howard University in 2002 for racial discrimination because she was white, The Smoking Gun reported Monday.



Dolezal accused the historically black college of improperly blocking her job as a teaching assistant, rejecting her application to be a post-graduate instructor, and denying her scholarship aid. Dolezal also claimed the university removed some of her artwork from a student exhibition because it was "motivated by a discriminatory purpose to favor African-American students over" her. An appeals court dismissed the complaint in 2004 because it found there was no evidence of discrimination.



Progs are so much fun to watch

She really knows how to play the ole race card eh CC.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 12:13:00 AM
Both ways ...  on blacks as a white and on whites as a black
QuoteProgs are so much fun to watch
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Both ways ...  on blacks as a white and on whites as a black
QuoteProgs are so much fun to watch

What a piece of fucking work she is.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 01:45:20 AM
just a another racist / race baiter prog, but  to the max
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 07:18:57 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"just a another racist / race baiter prog, but  to the max

Is she that or did she see an opportunity to use race to further her own career ambitions and go with it?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
ac_unsure

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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
Too true - for EVERY single one of them



 ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 02:34:15 PM
I must have missed something.  Why is it such a big deal that this woman is white?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: kiebers on June 16, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
She falsified documents saying she was black. She portrayed a black person at the NAACP. She posed with an older black man and led everyone to believe he was her father. She told her siblings not to talk about her past or blow her cover. (Her white parents adopted 4 black children) Hell in 2002 she sued a black college for discrimination (she was white at the time) which they threw out of court. She is the "black" in Frost's post.

This is her as a teenager.

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These are her parents whom she cut out of her life so she could accomplish her race change.

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Interview with parents.



Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
I get the part where she dressed up like a black person but my question is why is this an issue?  The woman clearly identifies herself as being African American.  She hasn't done it as a mockery or to abuse.  What's the problem?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: kiebers on June 16, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 04:36:51 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?


Look at it this way. If you dressed up in "black face" and tried to pass yourself off as black how do you think it would be received? Do you think people would approve of this socially or professionally? How is this any different, because she doesn't play a banjo and tap dance? How do you think African Americans see this? The few I've talked to find her little charade insulting.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?


Look at it this way. If you dressed up in "black face" and tried to pass yourself off as black how do you think it would be received? Do you think people would approve of this socially or professionally? How is this any different, because she doesn't play a banjo and tap dance? How do you think African Americans see this? The few I've talked to find her little charade insulting.

I'm going to skip the "black face" comment as that's a red herring.  It is not more irrelevant than calling out that dancing with the stars chick for dressing up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black on Halloween.  



This woman identify herself as being black.  She didn't do it as a mockery or satire or as an impression or costume.  She didn't do it to be deceptive or cruel or insulting.  What is the big deal if someone feels racially misidentified?  It is no more fraudulent than a man dressing and acting like a woman because he feels like he is one.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 05:03:03 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?

Maybe but I just want to know what the difference is between being "transracial" vs trans anything else.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 05:12:19 PM
I understand that and  have no intention of trying to change that view .. other than to say her transing and then spewing white hatred doesn't pass my test



Seems our world is transing into a construct of  silly putty where nothing is solid and everything is floating in transition
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?


Look at it this way. If you dressed up in "black face" and tried to pass yourself off as black how do you think it would be received? Do you think people would approve of this socially or professionally? How is this any different, because she doesn't play a banjo and tap dance? How do you think African Americans see this? The few I've talked to find her little charade insulting.

I'm going to skip the "black face" comment as that's a red herring.  It is not more irrelevant than calling out that dancing with the stars chick for dressing up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black on Halloween.  



This woman identify herself as being black.  She didn't do it as a mockery or satire or as an impression or costume.  She didn't do it to be deceptive or cruel or insulting.  What is the big deal if someone feels racially misidentified?  It is no more fraudulent than a man dressing and acting like a woman because he feels like he is one.


I don't think you have any idea how touchy this subject is among blacks in the US. The black face comment is not a "red herring". You Canadians have a totally different point of view when it comes to black and white race relations.



Besides the issue is not just some idiotic idea that she considered herself racially misidentified. Jesus H. Christ her parents are whiter than me, FFS. She can't be racially misidentified any more than I can. You can't change genetics. The only thing you can do is pretend to be something you are not and that is exactly what she is doing.



She obviously has some deep seated psychological issues toward being white that makes her think it is acceptable to lie to her employers, her friends, and the world. I'm struggling with the idea that you don't see this as crazy enough to question. If she had been up front by saying she was Caucasian but she identifies or sympathizes with blacks, nothing would have come of it but she didn't do that. She is a fucking nut. And as I stated previously the NAACP has enough of a credibility problem right now without having to deal with this circus act.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: kiebers on June 16, 2015, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?

Maybe but I just want to know what the difference is between being "transracial" vs trans anything else.




Actually its not about that as far as I am concerned. It boils down for me as falsifying documents. If she lies about that what else will she lie about. There is no trust. Because I do not have an issue with "trans" anything the truth becomes the important thing to me. Of course you could say she is starting out a political career the right way by lying. She can dress, talk, act like any race she wants to but when it comes down to a matter of trust and in a position that she had and was also applying for, there could be no trust. Check employment applications, they have statements about falsifying information can lead to immediate termination. If she felt that she would lose her position if the NAACP found out then she did it for personal gain. There are a lot of ways she could have helped African Americans without lying.


QuoteEzra Dolezal recalled going to Spokane in 2012 to meet his sister, to discover she had erased her family back home and had persuaded a black man to pretend to be her father.

He revealed Dolezal told him him: 'Over here, I'm going to be considered black, and I have a black father. Don't blow my cover.'

'She wanted to make a new life for herself but she took it to the ultimate extreme, - Not only did she move out to Spokane, but she created a whole new identity for herself.'

Ezra revealed that his sister started acting 'hateful to white people' after attending Howard University to get a Master of Fine Arts degree.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 05:25:12 PM
Nut or cause person / prog to the extreme? She sure used her pretend blackness to spew white hate. Hating ones  own skin does not give the right to race bait and spew hate



I can understand how blacks not filled with white hate would be offended
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?

Maybe but I just want to know what the difference is between being "transracial" vs trans anything else.


Is that even a word? The last I checked you can't physically change your race. There are no hormone injections or gene therapy or surgeries that allow you to really do that. I believe Micheal Jackson tried but we all know how that ended up.  ac_toofunny



This boils down to a person with extremely impaired judgement socially and professionally.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?


Look at it this way. If you dressed up in "black face" and tried to pass yourself off as black how do you think it would be received? Do you think people would approve of this socially or professionally? How is this any different, because she doesn't play a banjo and tap dance? How do you think African Americans see this? The few I've talked to find her little charade insulting.

I'm going to skip the "black face" comment as that's a red herring.  It is not more irrelevant than calling out that dancing with the stars chick for dressing up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black on Halloween.  



This woman identify herself as being black.  She didn't do it as a mockery or satire or as an impression or costume.  She didn't do it to be deceptive or cruel or insulting.  What is the big deal if someone feels racially misidentified?  It is no more fraudulent than a man dressing and acting like a woman because he feels like he is one.


I don't think you have any idea how touchy this subject is among blacks in the US. The black face comment is not a "red herring". You Canadians have a totally different point of view when it comes to black and white race relations.



Besides the issue is not just some idiotic idea that she considered herself racially misidentified. Jesus H. Christ her parents are whiter than me, FFS. She can't be racially misidentified any more than I can. You can't change genetics. The only thing you can do is play pretend and that is exactly what she is doing.



She obviously has some deep seated psychological issues toward being white that makes her think it is acceptable to lie to her employers, her friends, and the world. I'm struggling with the idea that you don't see this as crazy enough to question. If she had been up front by saying she was Caucasian but she identifies or sympathizes with blacks, nothing would have come of it but she didn't do that. She is a fucking nut. And as I stated previously the NAACP has enough of a credibility problem right now without having to deal with this circus act.


Clearly I don't know how touchy this is because I think it's ridiculous.  And I stand by my comments about "black face".  This is part of the problem.  Blackface is theatrical stage make-up dating back to the 1800s.  How the hell do you compare stage make-up used in theatrical performances to a woman darkening her skin because she identifies with blacks?  Come on Renee.  It's just another bullshit buzzword people used to be outraged.  It's faux racial indignation and I'm sick of it.



If this woman was white, she never would have seen the light of day in the NAACP.  How's THAT for racism?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?

Maybe but I just want to know what the difference is between being "transracial" vs trans anything else.


Is that even a word? The last I checked you can't physically change your race. There are no hormone injections or gene therapy or surgeries that allow you to really do that. I believe Micheal Jackson tried but we all know how that ended up.  ac_toofunny



This boils down to a person with extremely impaired judgement socially and professionally.

Skin bleeching and tanning are real things are they not?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 05:58:00 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Add trans-racial to the fast growing trans list?

Maybe but I just want to know what the difference is between being "transracial" vs trans anything else.


Is that even a word? The last I checked you can't physically change your race. There are no hormone injections or gene therapy or surgeries that allow you to really do that. I believe Micheal Jackson tried but we all know how that ended up.  ac_toofunny



This boils down to a person with extremely impaired judgement socially and professionally.

Skin bleeching and tanning are real things are they not?


Yeah, but it doesn't change your race. ac_toofunny  



In order to change her race she would have to physically and biologically change her parentage. Last I checked that isn't possible.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 06:05:34 PM
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Quote from: "kiebers"If, for no other reason, she was dishonest about it. She was in a position of leadership at the NAACP. She falsified legal documents to get where she is.

In what way?  By saying she was African American?  Is that any different than someone transgendered ticking the gender box for what they feel they are rather than what their private parts dictate?


Look at it this way. If you dressed up in "black face" and tried to pass yourself off as black how do you think it would be received? Do you think people would approve of this socially or professionally? How is this any different, because she doesn't play a banjo and tap dance? How do you think African Americans see this? The few I've talked to find her little charade insulting.

I'm going to skip the "black face" comment as that's a red herring.  It is not more irrelevant than calling out that dancing with the stars chick for dressing up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black on Halloween.  



This woman identify herself as being black.  She didn't do it as a mockery or satire or as an impression or costume.  She didn't do it to be deceptive or cruel or insulting.  What is the big deal if someone feels racially misidentified?  It is no more fraudulent than a man dressing and acting like a woman because he feels like he is one.


I don't think you have any idea how touchy this subject is among blacks in the US. The black face comment is not a "red herring". You Canadians have a totally different point of view when it comes to black and white race relations.



Besides the issue is not just some idiotic idea that she considered herself racially misidentified. Jesus H. Christ her parents are whiter than me, FFS. She can't be racially misidentified any more than I can. You can't change genetics. The only thing you can do is play pretend and that is exactly what she is doing.



She obviously has some deep seated psychological issues toward being white that makes her think it is acceptable to lie to her employers, her friends, and the world. I'm struggling with the idea that you don't see this as crazy enough to question. If she had been up front by saying she was Caucasian but she identifies or sympathizes with blacks, nothing would have come of it but she didn't do that. She is a fucking nut. And as I stated previously the NAACP has enough of a credibility problem right now without having to deal with this circus act.


Clearly I don't know how touchy this is because I think it's ridiculous.  And I stand by my comments about "black face".  This is part of the problem.  Blackface is theatrical stage make-up dating back to the 1800s.  How the hell do you compare stage make-up used in theatrical performances to a woman darkening her skin because she identifies with blacks?  Come on Renee.  It's just another bullshit buzzword people used to be outraged.  It's faux racial indignation and I'm sick of it.



If this woman was white, she never would have seen the light of day in the NAACP.  How's THAT for racism?


Oh so it's okay to lie about your background or qualifications in order to get ahead professionally or socially? That's an interesting take on the issue AND one that I completely disagree with. It ranks right up there with the travesty that is "Affirmative Action".



 Whether you are sick of it or not pretending to be black when you are a Caucasian is frowned upon by a lot of blacks in the US. Not only that, using a false racial identity because you think it will help justify your hate for another race is reprehensible to say the least.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 06:09:45 PM
Some scientists believe the concept of race is bullshit in the first place.  And FYI - two white people can make a black baby and vice versa.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Is it okay to identify with a specific group - dress and act like a member of said group?  Should someone have to lie about their background for legitimacy or is that irrelevant?



Why is hating whites a requirement to succeeding as a black person in the first place?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 16, 2015, 06:23:57 PM
Quote from: "RW" two white people can make a black baby and vice versa.

I tried that on my hubby



I mean my ex hubby  



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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: "RW"Some scientists believe the concept of race is bullshit in the first place.  And FYI - two white people can make a black baby and vice versa.


Yeah especially if the milkman gets involved.



I know about the theory that there is no genetic difference between the races and on a base genetic level there aren't that many variations but it doesn't take into account the effect environment has on genetics and "natural selection" which is responsible for the differences in human physical traits.



If you are born Caucasian or Asian you just can't perm your hair and get a tan then magically be of black ancestry. You might think you can because you are a freaking lunatic but biologically it's not really possible. Sorry but no one on a professional or cultural or even a social level is going to take horseshit like that seriously.  ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"Is it okay to identify with a specific group - dress and act like a member of said group?  Should someone have to lie about their background for legitimacy or is that irrelevant?



Why is hating whites a requirement to succeeding as a black person in the first place?


It's not but according to family members that's what she was doing which just enhances my argument point that she is a crazy bitch.



Which BTW is an embarrassment to the organization she was supposed to represent.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 06:37:44 PM
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Quote from: "RW"Is it okay to identify with a specific group - dress and act like a member of said group?  Should someone have to lie about their background for legitimacy or is that irrelevant?



Why is hating whites a requirement to succeeding as a black person in the first place?


It's not but according to family members that's what she was doing which just enhances my argument point that she is a crazy bitch.



Which BTW is an embarrassment to the organization she was supposed to represent.

Why did she have to play black to be a part of the NAACP in the first place?  I mean it was in Spokane FFS.  That city is the poster child for white America.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: "RW"
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Quote from: "RW"Is it okay to identify with a specific group - dress and act like a member of said group?  Should someone have to lie about their background for legitimacy or is that irrelevant?



Why is hating whites a requirement to succeeding as a black person in the first place?


It's not but according to family members that's what she was doing which just enhances my argument point that she is a crazy bitch.



Which BTW is an embarrassment to the organization she was supposed to represent.

Why did she have to play black to be a part of the NAACP in the first place?  I mean it was in Spokane FFS.  That city is the poster child for white America.


I don't know. I don't pretend to understand that kind of mindset and it is probably best that I don't. To me and probably to more than half of society, she is crazier than a shithouse rat.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 06:50:38 PM
I am so tired of all the retardation around racial relations.  It's getting more and more ridiculous by the minute.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 06:58:19 PM
Come on, it's just an identity crises for her, shes mentally ill.



Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: "RW"Some scientists believe the concept of race is bullshit in the first place.  And FYI - two white people can make a black baby and vice versa.

I believe in one race, we just have some genetic differences. Like dogs, all of the are dogs, just they have been changed through selection, and geographical mutations over time.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 07:05:53 PM
Yeah.  We aren't all that different when you peel back the layers.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 07:07:00 PM
OMG "The Jerk" I forgot all about that movie.



There are some great lines and gags in that film that are so stupid you can't help but laugh.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yeah.  We aren't all that different when you peel back the layers.

There has been a lot of study being done showing the Europeans was black at one time till mutations happened.

It's speculations a lot of it, but still the people that came from The regions like Egypt, and Euphrates regions wasn't White.

Skin color is nothing but a shell in the end, it's what we make of ourselves is what counts.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: "Renee"OMG "The Jerk" I forgot all about that movie.



There are some great lines and gags in that film that are so stupid you can't help but laugh.

LOL, that movie is very dated, and sad  ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: kiebers on June 16, 2015, 07:16:45 PM
Quote from: "RW"I am so tired of all the retardation around racial relations.  It's getting more and more ridiculous by the minute.

Until the Al Sharptons, Jessie Jacksons, Quanel X's and even the NAACP are finally swept under the carpet the retardation will continue. There is no end in sight in our lifetimes. You have no idea how tiresome it is here in the states.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 16, 2015, 07:17:54 PM
Gotta agree with you Kiebers, they are the sickness that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Renee on June 16, 2015, 07:43:21 PM
As long as there is money to be made and media attention to be garnered, the Sharptons and the Jacksons of this world will never go away.



Just like the business of fighting cancer, they make a big show of progress in the fighting of the disease but not quite enough to truly make a real difference. Their livelihood, and the livelihoods of all their minions and cling-ons depends on the perpetuation of the problem.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 16, 2015, 08:56:32 PM
I am neither black nor white. I am Ojibwe.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 08:58:50 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think the name of NAACP should be modernized?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 17, 2015, 01:19:18 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Is it just me, or does anyone else think the name of NAACP should be modernized?
You are on target. NAAP would be nice, the ideal in fact



however,  a huge industry  of race obsessed   race baiters would become unemployed and will never let it happen
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 17, 2015, 01:26:29 AM
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Quote from: "Fashionista"Is it just me, or does anyone else think the name of NAACP should be modernized?
You are on target. NAAP would be nice, the ideal in fact



however,  a huge industry  of race obsessed   race baiters would become unemployed and will never let it happen

Over a name change?
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 17, 2015, 01:48:56 AM
That response does not compute. Maybe I didn't state my intended message clearly



NAACP and my  suggested NAAP are light years apart in meaning .. They "should" not be, but sadly in our world with a huge industry of professional race baiters, they are polar opposites



National Association for the Advancement of People has a lovely ring to my ears
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 07:39:03 AM
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Quote from: "Fashionista"Is it just me, or does anyone else think the name of NAACP should be modernized?
You are on target. NAAP would be nice, the ideal in fact



however,  a huge industry  of race obsessed   race baiters would become unemployed and will never let it happen

I was referring to the C word in their name?



It's 2015 and the name C@l@oured is still used?

 ac_huh
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: cc on June 17, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
True, but for me it is not the word used but the narrow concept of the organization and the whole antagonistic black thing going on. It has spawned 1,000s of race baiters ... many of whom make a living off race baiting



Possibly I was a bit cutsey and not direct - I later said it clearly
QuoteNAAP - National Association for the Advancement of People has a lovely ring to my ears
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: RW on June 17, 2015, 12:40:40 PM
Thanks for clarifying cc.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 17, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: "RW"I am so tired of all the retardation around racial relations.  It's getting more and more ridiculous by the minute.


I never paid that much attention to it until I came to the forums because there's always a thread about it so it finally made its way to my line of sight.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 17, 2015, 08:21:13 PM
ac_dance I'm in, i feel a bit white for my color as well, big heepum pale face.  ac_dance



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Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Frost on June 17, 2015, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"I am neither black nor white. I am Ojibwe.  ac_biggrin

Your just beautiful ac_flower no color needed, or any color.
Title: Re: Are you black or white
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 08:34:24 PM
Quote from: "Frost"ac_dance I'm in, i feel a bit white for my color as well, big heepum pale face.  ac_dance



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lol Frost