Title: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
Ozgur Sahin, Ph.D., believes that water evaporation is the largest power source in nature. In an effort to demonstrate the potential of this untapped resource, Sahin and his fellow researchers have created prototype electrical generators with rubber sheets that move in response to changes in humidity thanks to a coating of bacterial spores.Quote
Powerful indeed. Sahin discovered that the flexible, spore-coated plank could generateQuote1,000 times as much force as human musclewhen the humidity was increased from that of a dry, sunny day to a humid, misty day – this is 10 times greater than materials currently used to build actuators. Sahin also calculated that moistening 1 lb (0.45 kg) of dry spores would generate enough force to lift a car 3.2 ft (1 m) off the ground.
The researchers believe the technology will one day make it possible to have electrical generators driven by changes in humidity from sun-warmed ponds and harbors.Quote
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:04:02 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:04:02 PM
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:10:26 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:10:26 PM
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:10:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:10:41 PM
A lot of things have and had potential. Cost is a factor.Quote from: "RW"
Yes, it is. Along with reliability/deliverability.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 11:10:56 PM
Post by: RW on June 16, 2015, 11:10:56 PM
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:11:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:11:40 PM
This is true. How much do bacteria cost? =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
How much does wind cost? It is more than natural gas though.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =P
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
This is true. How much do bacteria cost? =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
How much does wind cost? It is more than natural gas though.
Wind is kind of unpredictable though. I wonder, if you were to put enough of these things on boats in the south Atlantic, maybe they could soak up enough energy to reduce the power of hurricanes. That might just cover the cost.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:19:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:19:21 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =P
Will they work. Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:21:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:21:25 PM
This is true. How much do bacteria cost? =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
How much does wind cost? It is more than natural gas though.
Wind is kind of unpredictable though. I wonder, if you were to put enough of these things on boats in the south Atlantic, maybe they could soak up enough energy to reduce the power of hurricanes. That might just cover the cost.
Go to Pincher Creek some time. Most of the people would like nothing better than to see all those turbines on boats in the South Atlantic than in their back yards.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =PWill they work.Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Damn rights they'll work. And for free too. No unions or minimum wages! hahaha
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =PWill they work.Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Damn rights they'll work. And for free too. No unions or minimum wages! hahaha
I am glad you have faith in it, but so far it is a prototype/idea at best. As for free, on what planet?
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
This is true. How much do bacteria cost? =PQuote from: "easter bunny"
How much does wind cost? It is more than natural gas though.
Wind is kind of unpredictable though. I wonder, if you were to put enough of these things on boats in the south Atlantic, maybe they could soak up enough energy to reduce the power of hurricanes. That might just cover the cost.
Go to Pincher Creek some time. Most of the people would like nothing better than to see all those turbines on boats in the South Atlantic than in their back yards.
Those turbines are not particularly pleasing to the eye, I'll admit. Birds don't like them either. And then there's the RF noise from the generators. I hear that some people get headaches. It would be nice to have something else.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:26:21 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:26:21 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =PWill they work.Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Damn rights they'll work. And for free too. No unions or minimum wages! hahaha
I am glad you have faith in it, but so far it is a prototype/idea at best. As for free, on what planet?
I mean the bacteria. They'll work for free. =))
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =PWill they work.Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Damn rights they'll work. And for free too. No unions or minimum wages! hahaha
I am glad you have faith in it, but so far it is a prototype/idea at best. As for free, on what planet?
I mean the bacteria. They'll work for free. =))
It won't be free to end users. Anyway, neat idea, but I have seen a lot of them. Biofuels was considered a great idea at one time too.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:29:33 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:29:33 PM
Depends on the bacteria.Quote from: "RW"
We'll go for the cheapest ones. =PWill they work.Look come see us in a few years after you have some deliverability results to boast of. Far too early for any of us to comment meaningfully.
Damn rights they'll work. And for free too. No unions or minimum wages! hahaha
I am glad you have faith in it, but so far it is a prototype/idea at best. As for free, on what planet?
I mean the bacteria. They'll work for free. =))
It won't be free to end users. Anyway, neat idea, but I have seen a lot of them. Biofuels was considered a great idea at one time too.
Yup. We'll just have to wait and see. What impressed me the most was the bit about them being 1000 times more powerful than muscles! That's very cool.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:33:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2015, 11:33:20 PM
Yup. We'll just have to wait and see. What impressed me the most was the bit about them being 1000 times more powerful than muscles! That's very cool.
I will keep my eye on any developments, but so far we have no results to go on.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:46:14 PM
Post by: easter bunny on June 16, 2015, 11:46:14 PM
Yup. We'll just have to wait and see. What impressed me the most was the bit about them being 1000 times more powerful than muscles! That's very cool.
I will keep my eye on any developments, but so far we have no results to go on.
I think you need lots of heat for it to really work well. I'd say your job is safe for while. =)
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: cc on June 17, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
Post by: cc on June 17, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
What list was that? Hydro is the only one economically viable and its been around a long while but unfortunately it will never be available in most locations on this planet. Turbines (wind) and solar don't and won't ever cut it .. they are "artificial" .. phony baloney in that they cannot pay their way on their own.list of renewable energyQuote
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 07:37:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 07:37:38 AM
list of renewable energyQuote
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
list of renewable energyQuote
It is true that some types of renewable are corrupt wastelands.
Title: Re: Could humidity power join the list of renewable energy sources?
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
Yup. We'll just have to wait and see. What impressed me the most was the bit about them being 1000 times more powerful than muscles! That's very cool.
I will keep my eye on any developments, but so far we have no results to go on.
I think you need lots of heat for it to really work well. I'd say your job is safe for while. =)
Why would it ever affect my job? Renewables like nuclear, hydro, wind and solar compete with coal, natural gas or even peat in some countries. When they start being used in the petrochemical industry, then we'll call it a competitor.