Title: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 09:50:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 09:50:16 PM
Is this going too far?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 09:52:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 09:52:33 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33313807
Is this going too far?
I will not be using the rainbow filter tool SPECTRE.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on June 29, 2015, 09:58:02 PM
Post by: Romero on June 29, 2015, 09:58:02 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
It's a trend and it will stop in a short period of time. Why make a stink about it?Quote from: "RW"
Exactlly, I don't care if other people use it, but I won't be.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 10:22:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 10:22:57 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Well, according to Pat Robertson...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
There is nothing about that in the bible.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
Post by: RW on June 29, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
He doesn't like oral sex!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Annie on June 29, 2015, 11:35:46 PM
Post by: Annie on June 29, 2015, 11:35:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 29, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
As long as it involves consenting adults (both of whom have the capacity to consent), and no-one is harmed, what the fuck do I care? Its none of my business!!!
And if they want to get married, sure, why not? The only barrier appears to be religion-based, and if you don't follow a religion, why should you be excluded??
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
I'm just astonished at how much people care about what others do with their genitals.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
As long as it involves consenting adults (both of whom have the capacity to consent), and no-one is harmed, what the fuck do I care? Its none of my business!!!
And if they want to get married, sure, why not? The only barrier appears to be religion-based, and if you don't follow a religion, why should you be excluded??
I don't give a flying fuck what strangers do behind closed doors. However, when half-naked, old white guys close down city streets to remind us against our will what they do behind closed doors, then it is my biz.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: chuck wagon on June 30, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
Post by: chuck wagon on June 30, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
Well, according to Pat Robertson...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
let them eat cake
priceless
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 07:08:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 07:08:01 PM
I'm just astonished at how much people care about what others do with their genitals.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
As long as it involves consenting adults (both of whom have the capacity to consent), and no-one is harmed, what the fuck do I care? Its none of my business!!!
And if they want to get married, sure, why not? The only barrier appears to be religion-based, and if you don't follow a religion, why should you be excluded??
I don't give a flying fuck what strangers do behind closed doors. However, when half-naked, old white guys close down city streets to remind us against our will what they do behind closed doors, then it is my biz.
Agreed.
Gays seem hell bent on thrusting their lifestyle in our faces.
That would demonstrate some degree of insecurity on their part.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 08:42:16 PM
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 08:42:16 PM
As for Pride Shen, if you don't like it - don't go.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
That is petulant nonsense. They want to be treated normally...and I support them fully. How about they BEHAVE normally?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
What was the last street festival of theirs you went to? What was the location of the last rainbow flag you personally laid eyes on? Where and when did you see your last "flamer" in public?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
Well, according to Pat Robertson...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Well, he and his Right Wing Republican crowd were so obsessed with throwing so many men in prison when they were in power, so of course when they get out, all they're left with are buncha bumfuckers an' homos cause that's what they were exposed to when they were in prison. I hear the incarceration rate is especially high where Kiebers lives. So there must be a lotta homos comin' outta Texas prisons an' the South.
....oh well!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 09:17:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on June 30, 2015, 09:17:21 PM
When was the last time a gay person personally rubbed his or her lifestyle in your actual face?Quote from: "RW"
What was the last street festival of theirs you went to? What was the location of the last rainbow flag you personally laid eyes on? Where and when did you see your last "flamer" in public?
Can you not read?
I answered your question. It does not have to be "personal".
I do not go to their festivals, but they are broadcast live on television.
The last rainbow flag was on my Facebook page.
Why does it have to be in public?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 09:24:46 PM
Post by: RW on June 30, 2015, 09:24:46 PM
Most of those rainbow flag picture covers were straight people showing support. So WTF are you on about?
My point is that gay people aren't rubbing their "lifestyle" in your face.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on June 30, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
Post by: cc on June 30, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 11:22:35 PM
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 11:22:35 PM
So Joe, If you got bum raped / fucked you would become a homo .. is that what you are telling us?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Well cc, I know a couple of guys who've gone ta prison for an extended period of time and they seem kinda queer.
One of 'em always says to me when I'm with him, "Well you know I'm not gay, no I'm really not gay." Its almost as if he's tryin' ta exorcise a bad experience or something he saw when he was in prison.
Anyways, whether or not anything happens to a guy in the pen is besides the point. Bein' deprived of seeing a woman, any woman and seeing nothing but men for an extended period of time is sure to fuck up any guy's mind unless he was gay ta begin with.
Prisons a scary place to go, but once entered those who go there get initiated into a club and share an experience with other ex inmates which lasts a lifetime. Its like a brotherhood or somethin'.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: kiebers on June 30, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
Post by: kiebers on June 30, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
So Joe, If you got bum raped / fucked you would become a homo .. is that what you are telling us?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Did you really expect a direct answer?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 11:35:27 PM
Post by: J0E on June 30, 2015, 11:35:27 PM
So Joe, If you got bum raped / fucked you would become a homo .. is that what you are telling us?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Did you really expect a direct answer?ac_toofunny
Well K, I think so.
The guy I'm referring totold me he spent 5 years in a Texas prison for drug trafficking, the state where you live.
Can't imagine what he went thru.
I like him, he's a nice guy, but To be honest, he's kind of crazy.
Everything seems to remind him of prison. It must be a bizzare place as my friend says its a completely different world from the otuside. After the stories he's told me, makes me appreciate life on the otuside or the freedoms we have and take for granted.
He's sure gotta a lot of mental problems from spending too much time in the slammer that's fer sure.
Afterknowing him.I sure wouldn't wanna go there.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2015, 12:40:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2015, 12:40:29 AM
I'm just astonished at how much people care about what others do with their genitals.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
As long as it involves consenting adults (both of whom have the capacity to consent), and no-one is harmed, what the fuck do I care? Its none of my business!!!
And if they want to get married, sure, why not? The only barrier appears to be religion-based, and if you don't follow a religion, why should you be excluded??
I don't give a flying fuck what strangers do behind closed doors. However, when half-naked, old white guys close down city streets to remind us against our will what they do behind closed doors, then it is my biz.
Agreed.
Gays seem hell bent on thrusting their lifestyle in our faces.
That would demonstrate some degree of insecurity on their part.
I have mixed feelings about this SPECTRE.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 01:31:49 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 01:31:49 AM
What is the point of that? To brag? To promote the gay lifestyle? To reflect pride on being gay?
Not in my view. Its a "Fuck you" to straight people in my book, and I do not appreciate it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 01, 2015, 08:53:54 AM
Post by: keeper on July 01, 2015, 08:53:54 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
I don't. Only today, I drove up behind a vehicle with a rainbow sticker on the rear.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
What is the point of that? To brag? To promote the gay lifestyle? To reflect pride on being gay?
Not in my view. Its a "Fuck you" to straight people in my book, and I do not appreciate it.
I don't give a fuck about stickers on cars. However, gay day parades should be restricted to those over 18 and not on public streets. Worse than that, politicians feel pressured to attend those hedonistic exhibitions.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
I don't. Only today, I drove up behind a vehicle with a rainbow sticker on the rear.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
What is the point of that? To brag? To promote the gay lifestyle? To reflect pride on being gay?
Not in my view. Its a "Fuck you" to straight people in my book, and I do not appreciate it.
How does a sticker "promote the gay lifestyle"? Better yet, what is "the gay lifestyle"?
It's no different then people having Carlton AFL stickers or their Jesus fish or the stick people family stickers. I don't see you getting all worked up about those :P
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
There is a substantial difference between stickers that demonstrate loyalty to a football team, or declare the occupants a family, or even religious.
The rainbow motif stands for a sexual proclivity; what people do with their genitals. Shall we have stickers for anal sex? Bondage? Oral sex?
I do NOT need to know what people do in the privacy of their homes. I fully support the view that it should NOT affect their rights as members of our society. The LGBT tendency to flaunt themselves with their own icons says "We are different. We are a different category of society". I thought that's exactly what they were fighting against.
If they wish to be integrated as equals, they need to stop trying so hard to be different.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 09:05:55 PM
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 09:05:55 PM
You don't even know for sure that the person was gay. The owner go the vehicle may have a gay friend of child and supports that person.
When people have those family stickers it tells me what they've done with their genitals. Where's the thread bitching about that?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
Two wrongs???
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
These things are expressions of individuality. That's one of those freedoms we have in our civilized societies. Every time you see such a thing you should revel in that fact.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
How about kitchen utensils?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Now does anyone know where I can get an egg flipper bumper sticker?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 11:02:33 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2015, 11:02:33 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 11:08:08 PM
Post by: RW on July 01, 2015, 11:08:08 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2015, 01:23:29 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2015, 01:23:29 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 02, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
Post by: RW on July 02, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
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Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 02, 2015, 02:08:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 02, 2015, 02:08:29 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 02, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
Post by: J0E on July 02, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
Those Gay Pride street banners are in your face whether that part of town is considered 'gay' or not.
Originally, that sort of thang began on Davie Street, the gay section of town.
but now they're on street poles everywhere in the downtown core, even those streets don't have any history of the gay community in this city.
And what became a gay day, became a gay week, then month, and now it's virtually all year round 24/7, 365 days of the year.
Worse yet, we caint get rid of them even if we wanted to. If one made such a request, they'd instantly be labled a 'homophobe'.
So it's really an attempt to push their social agenda on everyone else.
No diff from Nazi Germany when they hung red white and black banners on street poles.
Same idea, but diametric opposites of the other.
Vancouver's merely a microcosm of what the US should expect in the future, now that gays have redefined marriage.
You leave Carlton out of this.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
There is a substantial difference between stickers that demonstrate loyalty to a football team, or declare the occupants a family, or even religious.
The rainbow motif stands for a sexual proclivity; what people do with their genitals. Shall we have stickers for anal sex? Bondage? Oral sex?
I do NOT need to know what people do in the privacy of their homes. I fully support the view that it should NOT affect their rights as members of our society. The LGBT tendency to flaunt themselves with their own icons says "We are different. We are a different category of society". I thought that's exactly what they were fighting against.
If they wish to be integrated as equals, they need to stop trying so hard to be different.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2015, 09:46:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2015, 09:46:44 PM
Every person should be given equal rights. Regardless of their personal convictions (but not their criminal convictions).
But we keep bowing to minority social noise that erodes and demeans the majority of citizens. It has to stop.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2015, 11:43:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2015, 11:43:02 PM
Like every other "liberated" minority...they cannot just stop and say, "we won"...now they have to grind it in our faces.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Every person should be given equal rights. Regardless of their personal convictions (but not their criminal convictions).
But we keep bowing to minority social noise that erodes and demeans the majority of citizens. It has to stop.
I support equal rights for everyone..
However, people like myself with dependent children who do not want them exposed to exposed adults are not the same as people who would discriminate against minorities or send children to labour camps..
I that kind of strange analogy very offensive besides being deceitful.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 12:25:59 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 12:25:59 AM
Gays need to be mindful that they are a small minority. They deserve equal rights...but not equal community space.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
If your straight asses can't handle it, move to the middle of nowhere. We don't have pride parades.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 01:56:49 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 01:56:49 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:05:23 AM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:05:23 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
here's a website:
Here's an article (I'll look for specific numbers, but these figures on attendance or numbers of victims are always fake anyways):
(from that ^ article):
Vancouver, BC: Each August, Vancouver celebrates the Gay Pride Festival and Parade which attracts more than 125,000 spectators and has an annual economic impact of close to $22 million.Quote
"Vancouver's gay friendly reputation and cultural diversity is becoming world renowned attracting thousands of international visitors to Pride each year."Quote
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:14:33 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:14:33 AM
That's anecdotal.
Hard numbers please.
Especially the number of STRAIGHT "tourists".
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:21:07 AM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:21:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:28:30 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:28:30 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:30:45 AM
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:30:45 AM
You're right about hard numbers. I don't know where to look for them :(
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:32:02 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 02:32:02 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:32:52 AM
Post by: asal on July 03, 2015, 02:32:52 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 03, 2015, 07:17:04 AM
Post by: J0E on July 03, 2015, 07:17:04 AM
Like every other "liberated" minority...they cannot just stop and say, "we won"...now they have to grind it in our faces.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Every person should be given equal rights. Regardless of their personal convictions (but not their criminal convictions).
But we keep bowing to minority social noise that erodes and demeans the majority of citizens. It has to stop.
Yup, and its only the beginning. More to come.
Since the gay agenda has taken hold in the Land of the Free, the entrepreneurs and media will cash in.
Some cities will be just like Vancouver, and the noise will be at least x10 since its America.
And since they feel they've been an 'oppressed minority' for all of these decades or centuries, they'llmore than overcompensate by blasting it in everyone's faces. Rivers, lakes in multirainbow colors? Sure the technology, knowhow and money is there, so why not? It'll be like celebrating the 4th of July every day of the year now.
They'll let us all know what they thought it was like all those years ta have to live 'the Lie'.
......oh well!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
What part of "anecdotal" are you having trouble with?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
When Vancouver City Council is reporting said numbers (last year it was closer to $30 million) it tends to hold a lot more weight. :p
FYI
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
A parade in a city once a year that attracts a lot of tourists. You do the math.Quote from: "RW"
If your straight asses can't handle it, move to the middle of nowhere. We don't have pride parades.
Why are the people that live and pay taxes in a community being shut out of any input. Old white men have the right to parade their lewd and lascivious behaviour in front of children on public streets during the day. Fuck, even straight pervs have the decency to go to the stripper bars.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Duh.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 02:05:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 02:05:09 PM
In Vancouver, the parade happens in community populated by gay people. There are also Chinese, native, East Indian, and WOMEN in these parades.Quote from: "RW"
Duh.
Sure, I know adults of all colours attend, but I still say the sexhibition aspect is a gay white male thing. Not white dykes, not immigrants from China or India, but white homos.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
In Vancouver, the parade happens in community populated by gay people. There are also Chinese, native, East Indian, and WOMEN in these parades.Quote from: "RW"
Duh.
Sure, I know adults of all colours attend, but I still say the sexhibition aspect is a gay white male thing. Not white dykes, not immigrants from China or India, but white homos.
I've been to the SGLMG once. Plenty of parades and floats full of scantily or barely at all clad gay and lesbians of various ethnicity strutting their stuff. I can't imagine it's any different in large cities elsewhere.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:24:05 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 02:24:05 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 02:55:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 02:55:47 PM
In Vancouver, the parade happens in community populated by gay people. There are also Chinese, native, East Indian, and WOMEN in these parades.Quote from: "RW"
Duh.
Sure, I know adults of all colours attend, but I still say the sexhibition aspect is a gay white male thing. Not white dykes, not immigrants from China or India, but white homos.
I've been to the SGLMG once. Plenty of parades and floats full of scantily or barely at all clad gay and lesbians of various ethnicity strutting their stuff. I can't imagine it's any different in large cities elsewhere.
I just Googled it and it appears to be held at night. I could live that. Kinda like what Rio or New Orleans does. The grossest shit still appears to be men and they are white. I don't give a fuck personally as long as it off limits to kids.
I have yet to see something at a gay pride parade that I have seen on a beach or swimming pool in terms of being covered.Quote
I don't know what beaches you are going to, but they must be run by gay white men. My mouse isn't working right now, so I can't post any pics. What I can tell you is I have been to a lot of beaches with scantily clad people. However, I did not see any men drinking out of phallic looking bottle. I didn't see anyone tied up or carrying giant dicks. You won't see this shit in Seoul or Taipei's fruit fests either. If they did, they would be arrested as they should.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
In Vancouver, the parade happens in community populated by gay people. There are also Chinese, native, East Indian, and WOMEN in these parades.Quote from: "RW"
Duh.
Sure, I know adults of all colours attend, but I still say the sexhibition aspect is a gay white male thing. Not white dykes, not immigrants from China or India, but white homos.
I've been to the SGLMG once. Plenty of parades and floats full of scantily or barely at all clad gay and lesbians of various ethnicity strutting their stuff. I can't imagine it's any different in large cities elsewhere.
I just Googled it and it appears to be held at night. I could live that. Kinda like what Rio or New Orleans does. The grossest shit still appears to be men and they are white. I don't give a fuck personally as long as it off limits to kids.
It's held over a number of days and nights and as I mentioned before, an array of men and women of diverse ethnicity and backgrounds.
Nobody seems to have a problem with it. I suppose people who might, simply choose to avoid such venues on those days and nights. Easy solution.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
It's held over a number of days and nights and as I mentioned before, an array of men and women of diverse ethnicity and backgrounds.
Nobody seems to have a problem with it. I suppose people who might, simply choose to avoid such venues on those days and nights. Easy solution.
I'm sure the look at me suck on a huge dick while naked and chained is white males like it is here. That part seems to be held at night. An easier solution for this continent is understand they are on public streets during the day while kids are present. Why can't they tone it down or hold it at night or daytime in an enclosed area with age restrictions. Girly bars do it, so why won't white homos follow the same standards?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Get a grip Shen.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
That doesn't seem to be a viable solution to the retardedly entitled.Quote from: "RW"
Apparently so.
It's held over a number of days and nights and as I mentioned before, an array of men and women of diverse ethnicity and backgrounds.
Nobody seems to have a problem with it. I suppose people who might, simply choose to avoid such venues on those days and nights. Easy solution.
I'm sure the look at me suck on a huge dick while naked and chained is white males like it is here. That part seems to be held at night. An easier solution for this continent is understand they are on public streets during the day while kids are present. Why can't they tone it down or hold it at night or daytime in an enclosed area with age restrictions. Girly bars do it, so why won't white homos follow the same standards?
You seem to harbor racist and sexist sentiments towards white gay males. Even when I've discounted your views on the SGLMG because I've attended one and know firsthand differently, you still maintain that white gay males are the cause of something which doesn't exist on any measurable level at the SGLMG. Why do you do that?
Age restrictions on seeing people dancing in the streets?Quote from: "RW"
Get a grip Shen.
I wonder if non whites and non males can still dance in the streets if Shen were the Mayor.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:18:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:18:42 PM
Age restrictions on seeing people dancing in the streets?Quote from: "RW"
Get a grip Shen.
For the umpteenth time, I don't care about dancing. I got to Caribana West every year. Sexy, skimpy outfits for sure. No chained, nude guys simulating giving head. See the diff?
I don't give a fuck what turns on anyone, but ffs sakes white fruits, put an age restriction on it like straight pervs do.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
Age restrictions on seeing people dancing in the streets?Quote from: "RW"
Get a grip Shen.
For the umpteenth time, I don't care about dancing. I got to Caribana West every year. Sexy, skimpy outfits for sure. No chained, nude guys simulating giving head. See the diff?
I don't give a fuck what turns on anyone,, put an age restriction on it like straight pervs do. but ffs sakes white fruits
Again with the racism?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:27:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:27:08 PM
Again with the racism?
Ohhhhhh, you poor little victimized minority. Coptic Christians in Egypt feel your pain.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:31:47 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 03:31:47 PM
Again with the racism?
Ohhhhhh, you poor little victimized minority. Coptic Christians in Egypt feel your pain.:laugh3: ac_lmfao
So in closing, you've repeatedly demonstrated that you're a self avowed racist, homophobe, and sexist so you'd like to leave it there?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Age restrictions on seeing people dancing in the streets?Quote from: "RW"
Get a grip Shen.
For the umpteenth time, I don't care about dancing. I got to Caribana West every year. Sexy, skimpy outfits for sure. No chained, nude guys simulating giving head. See the diff?
I don't give a fuck what turns on anyone, but ffs sakes white fruits, put an age restriction on it like straight pervs do.
I've yet to see that at a pride parade and I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO ONE.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Again with the racism?
Ohhhhhh, you poor little victimized minority. Coptic Christians in Egypt feel your pain.:laugh3: ac_lmfao
So in closing, you've repeatedly demonstrated that you're a self avowed racist, homophobe, and sexist so you'd like to leave it there?
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but special ed level, third grade level insults from a delusional gasbag will always be beneath me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
Post by: Frood on July 03, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
Again with the racism?
Ohhhhhh, you poor little victimized minority. Coptic Christians in Egypt feel your pain.:laugh3: ac_lmfao
So in closing, you've repeatedly demonstrated that you're a self avowed racist, homophobe, and sexist so you'd like to leave it there?
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but special ed level, third grade level insults from a delusional gasbag will always be beneath me.:crazy:
So you're suggesting that you're not a self avowed racist, homophobe, and sexist? I can show you what you've repeatedly said about white homosexual males if you like?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
What part of "anecdotal" are you having trouble with?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
When Vancouver City Council is reporting said numbers (last year it was closer to $30 million) it tends to hold a lot more weight. :p
FYIhttp://www.topeventscanada.com/canada-events-festivals-themes-gay-pride.html
We used to run Formula One Grands Prix here in Adelaide.
The Government told everyone that it generated over $100M in tourist dollars.
Eventually, they were asked how they knew that.
Anecdotal evidence only. There is NO hard data about revenue raised by specific events.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 03, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
Post by: keeper on July 03, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
I think it's done by formula based on the number of people and the minimum they spend during such events. I dropped at least $50 on food and drinks last time I went. Estimates aren't that hard come by.Quote from: "RW"
How many times have you went ?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
My gaybours make a trip down every year and spend hundreds of dollars each year doing so.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
I think it's done by formula based on the number of people and the minimum they spend during such events. I dropped at least $50 on food and drinks last time I went. Estimates aren't that hard come by.Quote from: "RW"
See the vaguaries..."I dropped at least"...
The point is did you go specifically for that event? How much MORE than normal trading was taken by vendors?
Then, factor that over the ENTIRE YEAR. A month's spike in takings does not mean the place made an extra $30M. It means people spent their money in a concentrated period of time...
Be that as it may, how is that important? If we rely on gay people to act like salacious fools for the entertainment of the mindless onlookers in order to raise revenue, how low are we going?
That's just a "live" version of reality TV.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:01:53 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:01:53 PM
As for my gaybours, they come to Van specifically for the event. That's airfare, hotel, food and money spent in Vancouver that they would not have otherwise spent. You cannot deny it brings money to the city.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
So, what you're saying is it brings GAYS to the city, and they spend money, so its OK?
I disagree.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
(It would have stayed in their pockets otherwise.)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 12:17:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 12:17:41 AM
My husband and I have no problem with parades even if we do not agree with the message..
But, this should have no place in public places where children may be present.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 12:44:07 AM
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 12:44:07 AM
Twice.Quote from: "RW"
My gaybours make a trip down every year and spend hundreds of dollars each year doing so.
I would go with a group, I want to see what its all about.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 04, 2015, 01:02:41 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 04, 2015, 01:02:41 AM
Who are you to dictate what I expose my children to Fash? I'm sorry, I mean no offence when I say I don't want someone with strong Christian convictions dictating what my children do or do not see in life.Quote from: "RW"
I am an atheist, and I agree with Fash.
You on the other hand seem to be in a minority.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 01:50:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 01:50:19 AM
Who are you to dictate what I expose my children to Fash? I'm sorry, I mean no offence when I say I don't want someone with strong Christian convictions dictating what my children do or do not see in life.Quote from: "RW"
On that same sentiment, I don't want and won't tolerate other people dictating what my children are exposed to on a sexual level. On a legal and moral level, if I saw a child being over exposed to sexual content I would step in. Boundaries are getting far too blurred. See this is why people make the connection between the lgbt and pedophilia. Not saying this is totally dead on
...but this loose with children mentality is exactly why the connect is made.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 01:54:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 01:54:03 AM
So your kids, your perogitive. But you take issue with people whose perogitive is Christianity? My kids are Christian. That's our perogitive. Are we out in the streets dancing with snakes and speaking in tongues? No. Well .. .not today lolSo?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 01:58:35 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 01:58:35 AM
So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:04:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:04:18 AM
Who said I'm not? I can celebrate diversity without prancing around in public naked during daylight hours. Why can't you?So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:09:02 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:09:02 AM
It's rather simple Dove. Is it too hard for you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:10:39 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:10:39 AM
So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:13:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:13:04 AM
Who said it was? My point is that public places ate for everyone and should neutral and safe for everyone.So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:14:37 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:14:37 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:17:18 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:17:18 AM
So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
So public places should be stripped of any religious symbolism or monuments, right? Fair is fair.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:19:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:19:15 AM
Everyone so long as you aren't gay and want to have a parade.Quote from: "RW"
Typical persecution complex. I don't care if you are gay and want a parade. I care when people are out half naked in droves in public with blow up penises and dry humping on high medians. Do you understand my point? Explain why this sort of thing can't wait until night time?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:19:47 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 02:19:47 AM
Why do you care?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:24:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:24:43 AM
No. Keep your clothes on in public places and cry about it. The problem I'm having is the idea that all forms of human expression should be permitted any time any place. Would it be fair if I expressed my bowels any public place I wished? We all have sex. There is a time and place for that. And it isn't right out on main street during lunch hours. I'm not preaching against a gay festival, so much as the conduct.So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
So public places should be stripped of any religious symbolism or monuments, right? Fair is fair.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:38:01 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 02:38:01 AM
So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
So public places should be stripped of any religious symbolism or monuments, right? Fair is fair.
How did the discussion of public parades and festivities in the West turn into a discussion about what more often happens in Rio during Carnival along the side streets? Western gay and lesbians are defecating and having street sex now?
You didn't answer my question.
How come your beliefs allow you to make demands on other people's behaviors which don't subscribe to your opinions of them?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:44:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:44:30 AM
This has been a discussion about overly sexual conduct that occurs in gay festivals in public during daylight hours. That's what the discussion is. Don't try to turn it into something else. I have no issues with gay festivals. I have issues with in your face sexuality outside of a proper time/place. Why is that unreasonable?So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
So public places should be stripped of any religious symbolism or monuments, right? Fair is fair.
How did the discussion of public parades and festivities in the West turn into a discussion about what more often happens in Rio during Carnival along the side streets? Western gay and lesbians are defecating and having street sex now?ac_toofunny
You didn't answer my question.
How come your beliefs allow you to make demands on other people's behaviors which don't subscribe to your opinions of them?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
Why is that unreasonable?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:07:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:07:08 AM
I heard an annual gay pride parade is that time and place.Quote from: "RW"
Why is that unreasonable?
Why is it unreasonable to compromise and save the nudity and sexual antics for night time?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:10:00 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:10:00 AM
DERP.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:17:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:17:03 AM
Because it's a parade and despite the rumours, gays can't see in the dark either.Quote from: "RW"
DERP.
So you are saying homosexuals are incapable of having a parade with clothes on and waiting until nightfall before breaking out blow up dildos? See its unwillingness to compromise with others. You want respect that are not willing to give.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:53:34 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:53:34 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 04:41:05 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 04:41:05 AM
So?Quote from: "RW"
I don't want to raise my kids in a white washed bubble. I find that to be a closed minded and ignorant approach.
My kids. My prerogative.
I'm also definitely not in the minority when it comes to Christianity dictating a child's educational path.
Do you see me bitching about how you raise your kids or what you expose them to? No, you don't. If you did have a speaking in tongues parade (there are many religious parades all over the world), you wouldn't hear me bitching about it. I'm fine with diversity. Why aren't you?
What makes her belief lesser than yours? I'm curious.
So public places should be stripped of any religious symbolism or monuments, right? Fair is fair.
How did the discussion of public parades and festivities in the West turn into a discussion about what more often happens in Rio during Carnival along the side streets? Western gay and lesbians are defecating and having street sex now?ac_toofunny
You didn't answer my question.
How come your beliefs allow you to make demands on other people's behaviors which don't subscribe to your opinions of them?
Gay festivals aren't flash mob festivals. Permits are applied for, venues, grounds, and events are outlined-advertised to the public well in advance, and it's an outward celebration of sexuality which until recent history was disparaged and its constituents imprisoned, degraded, tortured, discriminated against, and even killed. The irony of what you expect from participants of these sort of events is that they continue to live in the closet in the one moment in time per year which they openly celebrate their sexualities.
Most festival goers are conservatively clothed and wouldn't look out of place at the beach (clothed or nude). Those that aren't, have the benefit of declared venue perimeters and lax policing. Open sex on the street is virtually non existent and looked down on by most of the other party goers when it rarely if ever happens. I've heard of people in cars or bushes getting accidentally sprung by onlookers, but never a favela orgie. Sure, there's lots of pashing, hugging, dancing, commando breasts, gaudy G-strings and occasional gropes. Nothing you wouldn't also see at a concert, dance, 411 event, nude beach, or music festival which also occur on public grounds with permits or nuances of them.
That's what the discussion is. Don't try to turn it into something else. I have no issues with gay festivals. I have issues with in your face sexuality outside of a proper time/place. Why is that unreasonable?Quote
"Proper time/place" is the unreasonable aspect of your argument. The proper time and place were set aside for such gay pride events and it wasn't anywhere near your suburban street or local strip mall.
You don't have any grounds to protest because it's a nonevent unless you make it into one, or make it
Attend, don't attend, it's up to you. Learn to live with that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:56:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:56:42 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:00:42 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:00:42 AM
It's unreasonable for you to expect something you won't ever participate in to change because it offends your delicate sensibilities.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
So you can't cry "bigot" over numerous amounts of people who find homosexuality trashy and forceful. What is happening is one group of people taking it upon themselves to redfine sensitive topics like modern day nazis, telling people their values and comfort levels need to conform and "get with the times". It's unreasonable to expect people at a homosexual parade to keep things decent in a public place in broad day light. Maybe because the stereotype of homosexuals being raging, deviant perverts is true, and you fight that stereotype by enforcing it as much as possible. Makes perfect sense.Quote from: "Dove"
I have virtually no idea what you're on about and I'm sure you have even less.
What part of the theme "attend the festivities or don't, your choice, but stop bitching about other peoples behaviors" isn't getting through to you?
If you find quotients of homosexuality grotesque, fair enough. Don't engage in it. Just remember that in all likelihood, parts of your own ethos are reviled by others. You're going to get blowback and it's not going to be pleasant.
Oh fuck! The Nazi card.Quote from: "RW"
:laugh3:
It's unreasonable for you to expect something you won't ever participate in to change because it offends your delicate sensibilities.
You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 05:15:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 05:15:53 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 05:36:11 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 05:36:11 AM
The whole "gay way or no way" thing kinda inspires that word, yes. It IS nazi-ish. Unwillingness to compromise is not a good thing. And you guys are responding to my statements as though I'm an activist. I'm not. I have a right to disagree,Quote from: "Dove"
I'll sincerely say that of course you have that right.
and be dismayed that our public standards of decency are dropping to the level of a Roman bath house. I see it as going further down the slippery slope. And it really does enforce the stereotype.Quote
What if others don't see eye to eye on your views of what public decency standards are or should be? My whole point has been that you're not forced to attend publicized events yet you have some issues with them none the less.
My sensibilities certainly aren't "senstive". I was a stripper in new Orleans and I'm a recovering heroin addict. And my post that you didn't understand was basically pointing out blow back. There is a good growing group of homosexuals embarrassed by this as well. But who cares about how others feel about what gets done in public streets in broad daylight?Quote
Well done on getting away from soft core prostitution and the crank. I personally feel that neither do the participant any good in the long run but that's just me, and you, and we're agreeing on something. However I wouldn't object if you were just embarking down that path. It's not me and doesn't affect me. I would never take my children anywhere I knew narcotics were being consumed or scantily clad women were floundering in life around a metal pole. Free will should trump nearly all things.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:37:01 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:37:01 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 05:50:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 05:50:40 AM
The public standard of decent has always been that nudity and sexual behavior doesn't happen out in public places during times where everyone is out and about. Why does this get changed by one group? Why should other people with free will be pushed out of public areas to avoid this content? Why can't people wait until night so that people actually have a choice instead of forced options? And with the attitude like "it doesn't affect me unless I go looking for it if I chose" is why, well....if you don't want your kids around places where narcotics are consumed, you better remove them from school. Because heroin is now epidemic.The whole "gay way or no way" thing kinda inspires that word, yes. It IS nazi-ish. Unwillingness to compromise is not a good thing. And you guys are responding to my statements as though I'm an activist. I'm not. I have a right to disagree,Quote from: "Dove"
I'll sincerely say that of course you have that right.and be dismayed that our public standards of decency are dropping to the level of a Roman bath house. I see it as going further down the slippery slope. And it really does enforce the stereotype.Quote
What if others don't see eye to eye on your views of what public decency standards are or should be? My whole point has been that you're not forced to attend publicized events yet you have some issues with them none the less.My sensibilities certainly aren't "senstive". I was a stripper in new Orleans and I'm a recovering heroin addict. And my post that you didn't understand was basically pointing out blow back. There is a good growing group of homosexuals embarrassed by this as well. But who cares about how others feel about what gets done in public streets in broad daylight?Quote
Well done on getting away from soft core prostitution and the crank. I personally feel that neither do the participant any good in the long run but that's just me, and you, and we're agreeing on something. However I wouldn't object if you were just embarking down that path. It's not me and doesn't affect me. I would never take my children anywhere I knew narcotics were being consumed or scantily clad women were floundering in life around a metal pole. Free will should trump nearly all things.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:53:34 AM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 05:53:34 AM
And again I ask, why do you care?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 06:10:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 06:10:32 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 06:16:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 06:16:31 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 06:20:20 AM
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 06:20:20 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 06:30:23 AM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 06:30:23 AM
The whole "gay way or no way" thing kinda inspires that word, yes. It IS nazi-ish. Unwillingness to compromise is not a good thing. And you guys are responding to my statements as though I'm an activist. I'm not. I have a right to disagree,Quote from: "Dove"
I'll sincerely say that of course you have that right.and be dismayed that our public standards of decency are dropping to the level of a Roman bath house. I see it as going further down the slippery slope. And it really does enforce the stereotype.Quote
What if others don't see eye to eye on your views of what public decency standards are or should be? My whole point has been that you're not forced to attend publicized events yet you have some issues with them none the less.My sensibilities certainly aren't "senstive". I was a stripper in new Orleans and I'm a recovering heroin addict. And my post that you didn't understand was basically pointing out blow back. There is a good growing group of homosexuals embarrassed by this as well. But who cares about how others feel about what gets done in public streets in broad daylight?Quote
Well done on getting away from soft core prostitution and the crank. I personally feel that neither do the participant any good in the long run but that's just me, and you, and we're agreeing on something. However I wouldn't object if you were just embarking down that path. It's not me and doesn't affect me. I would never take my children anywhere I knew narcotics were being consumed or scantily clad women were floundering in life around a metal pole. Free will should trump nearly all things.
The public standard of decent has always been that nudity and sexual behavior doesn't happen out in public places during times where everyone is out and about.
So you're objecting to limited events in the public domain and previously broadcast to alert others (whether participation was sought or not)?
What are you feelings on
What about nude beaches?
What are your feelings about the social phenomenon known as the original Woodstock?
Why are you happy to moderate what your children watch movie wise but object to what could be happening in the CBD you're not visiting during certain time slots?
These are just a few examples to illustrate a main point. You either apply for membership or buy a pass, or you don't. This daylight/nightlight scenario you propose doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
Why does this get changed by one group? Why should other people with free will be pushed out of public areas to avoid this content?Quote
Why do people have to endure wedding and funeral motorcades? Why should charities get the green light to shut down main artery roads for fun runs or other revenue raising exploits? Why should a bunch of morons dressed up in red, white, and blue be allowed to book parades every July 4th and bring the traffic network to its knees?
Why can't people wait until night so that people actually have a choice instead of forced options? And with the attitude like "it doesn't affect me unless I go looking for it if I chose" is why, well....if you don't want your kids around places where narcotics are consumed, you better remove them from school. Because heroin is now epidemic.Quote
Ice is Australia's latest, not heroin.
Why do your perceptions and arguments revolve around others being North American like you? Are there no other sorts in your estimations? Do I need a permit, should I file for a yearly open international day to air my point of view, and would you approve of it even if it had jack shit to do with your real day to day life? Would it be any different should I post my scathing critiques of your lack of logic during the day, which would be your hemisphere night, which might placate your public daytime decency clause?
Are you required to participate in this exchange against your will, have your children read any of it, and are you sure I'm not completely naked when I'm posting this or at the very minimum, flicking the lentil while my mobile phone cloaked in condom and stuffed as far up my cunt vibrates to me redialing from the landline headset?
Your problem is mental. You're mental. Sort that shit out.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: ghost on July 04, 2015, 10:50:46 AM
Post by: ghost on July 04, 2015, 10:50:46 AM
In Vancouver, the parade happens in community populated by gay people. There are also Chinese, native, East Indian, and WOMEN in these parades.Quote from: "RW"
Duh.
Sure, I know adults of all colours attend, but I still say the sexhibition aspect is a gay white male thing. Not white dykes, not immigrants from China or India, but white homos.
And yet over six thousand people came out for Seoul's Gay Pride Parade last weekend.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:58:09 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:58:09 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
In Seoul, a gay pride parade 15 years in the running is at the center of heated controversy between LGBT groups and Christian activists, who threaten to do what it takes to stop the marchers.
The growing visibility of South Korea's gays and lesbians has led to louder opposition from church groups in recent years, and this weekend's event has organizers preparing for confrontation.
"In the Bible, homosexuality is sin. And to publicize your personal, private identity like that is a problem," says Pastor Jonah Lee of Calvary Church in Seoul. He is part of the religious opposition to gay culture, and calls himself formerly gay — cured of 43 years of homosexuality.
Gay rights in South Korea have become so contentious that at a pride month kickoff event earlier in June, more anti-gay protesters showed up than LGBT participants.
The Christian groups blared a Korean version of the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" to try and drown out pride event speakers. They also handed out leaflets, shouted into megaphones, and held up signs with messages like: "Homosexuality will destroy humanity."
"Churches oppose the festival and parade because it's too decadent," says Lee. "Korea is not as open and free so as you could walk around with your bottom hanging out like that."
Public polls seem to back up the pastor. A Pew Research Center survey on moral issues found that 57 percent of South Koreans thought that homosexuality was unacceptable, while 18 percent said it was acceptable.
Disruptions Last Year
At last year's parade, Christian protesters lay down in the streets, singing songs and stalling LGBT marchers for hours. This year, religious groups tried to stop the parade from happening at all. They flooded the police with permit applications to rally on the same day as the pride parade. It jammed up the permitting process, leading the Seoul police to ban the parade altogether, citing safety reasons.
But a court last week overturned the ban, upholding the LGBT group's right to assemble.
"Everybody has a right to protest, including the religious groups. What they don't have the right to do is to stop other people gathering in the way that they express themselves," says Graeme Reid. He's the LGBT rights director for Human Rights Watch.
"As there's progress on one level, and in this instance, internationally, we see an overall trend toward more inclusive policies. But then, we often see a reaction to those gains. And I think that's what we're seeing in South Korea," Reid says.
Now, all eyes turn to Sunday, when as many as 20,000 are expected to turn out for the parade and festivities around it. Organizers — like Kang Myeong-jin — say they have to prepare for confrontation.
"There's the possibility of unpredicted behaviors from the haters," Kang says. "And their sole purpose is to stop the parade, but it's a matter of how they're going to stop it, what they're going to do, so we need to prepare against that.
Organizers have warned participants to be ready for flying objects, long stalls along the route and other potential safety hazards. For his part, the pastor says he doesn't condone physical or violent confrontations.
"Extreme measures to LGBT parades will only breed social conflict. I try to convince the church on this matter, but I get a lot of contempt from them," Lee says.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
If gay pride parades were like this, there would be less objection.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
But you know, I've actually been to Pride events which is more than I can say for most of you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 03:52:57 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 03:52:57 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:59:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:59:54 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Nasty Bits
A slang term used to refer to someone's private parts, most effectively used when these parts are less then appealing.
I was referring to something like this. I know that child is thinking "nasty."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
I don't think we were talking about you. I don't think you were in the parade displaying nasty bits.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Nasty Bits
A slang term used to refer to someone's private parts, most effectively used when these parts are less then appealing.
I was referring to something like this. I know that child is thinking "nasty."(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.catholicanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Upset-child.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.catholicanada.com/wp-content%20...%20-child.png%22%3Ehttp://www.catholicanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Upset-child.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is amoral.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
How are they shoving it down your throat? If you DONT want to see it DONT GO. Pretty simple really....Quote from: "Keeper"
I explained my point. Several times. Just because the currently mental vibe is self centered, doesn't mean everyone is self centered. Btw, that isn't how you create a world of equality that's harmonious. Just saying.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 04:17:46 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 04:17:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:26:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:26:19 PM
And this is the problem. Your thinking is so horrifically extreme that you reason if people can do some things in public, like funerals and weddings, they should be allowed to do anything. And you call me mental because I'm capable of understanding boundaries and compromise. You aren't going to change my mind on this. And considering I've stated ad nauseum what my issue with the pride fest actually is....you should be able to take as a theme and understand the same goes for any parade out in public day light hours. A concert? That's held in a private venue. DER. Why don't the gays, do the fest in a concert hall then. Perfect. You can have all the blow up dolls and dick cups and sagging ass in an environment where others aren't being put upon in neighborhoods they pay taxes for too. I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this, because even my small children understand the difference between posting online nude and frolicking out in public nude. I shouldn't have to walk you through an exchange like this because of your extreme thinking. You just want to be right, not understand other people, and the all or nothing crap, is crap. I am posting from an American perspective because I live in America. Why do you expect other people to go outside of themselves to accommodate your opinions when you are combative against doing the same?The whole "gay way or no way" thing kinda inspires that word, yes. It IS nazi-ish. Unwillingness to compromise is not a good thing. And you guys are responding to my statements as though I'm an activist. I'm not. I have a right to disagree,Quote from: "Dove"
I'll sincerely say that of course you have that right.and be dismayed that our public standards of decency are dropping to the level of a Roman bath house. I see it as going further down the slippery slope. And it really does enforce the stereotype.Quote
What if others don't see eye to eye on your views of what public decency standards are or should be? My whole point has been that you're not forced to attend publicized events yet you have some issues with them none the less.My sensibilities certainly aren't "senstive". I was a stripper in new Orleans and I'm a recovering heroin addict. And my post that you didn't understand was basically pointing out blow back. There is a good growing group of homosexuals embarrassed by this as well. But who cares about how others feel about what gets done in public streets in broad daylight?Quote
Well done on getting away from soft core prostitution and the crank. I personally feel that neither do the participant any good in the long run but that's just me, and you, and we're agreeing on something. However I wouldn't object if you were just embarking down that path. It's not me and doesn't affect me. I would never take my children anywhere I knew narcotics were being consumed or scantily clad women were floundering in life around a metal pole. Free will should trump nearly all things.
The public standard of decent has always been that nudity and sexual behavior doesn't happen out in public places during times where everyone is out and about.
So you're objecting to limited events in the public domain and previously broadcast to alert others (whether participation was sought or not)?
What are you feelings onhttp://www.spencertunick.com/ ?
What about nude beaches?
What are your feelings about the social phenomenon known as the original Woodstock?
Why are you happy to moderate what your children watch movie wise but object to what could be happening in the CBD you're not visiting during certain time slots?
These are just a few examples to illustrate a main point. You either apply for membership or buy a pass, or you don't. This daylight/nightlight scenario you propose doesn't amount to a hill of beans.Why does this get changed by one group? Why should other people with free will be pushed out of public areas to avoid this content?Quote
Why do people have to endure wedding and funeral motorcades? Why should charities get the green light to shut down main artery roads for fun runs or other revenue raising exploits? Why should a bunch of morons dressed up in red, white, and blue be allowed to book parades every July 4th and bring the traffic network to its knees?Why can't people wait until night so that people actually have a choice instead of forced options? And with the attitude like "it doesn't affect me unless I go looking for it if I chose" is why, well....if you don't want your kids around places where narcotics are consumed, you better remove them from school. Because heroin is now epidemic.Quote
Ice is Australia's latest, not heroin.
Why do your perceptions and arguments revolve around others being North American like you? Are there no other sorts in your estimations? Do I need a permit, should I file for a yearly open international day to air my point of view, and would you approve of it even if it had jack shit to do with your real day to day life? Would it be any different should I post my scathing critiques of your lack of logic during the day, which would be your hemisphere night, which might placate your public daytime decency clause?
Are you required to participate in this exchange against your will, have your children read any of it, and are you sure I'm not completely naked when I'm posting this or at the very minimum, flicking the lentil while my mobile phone cloaked in condom and stuffed as far up my cunt vibrates to me redialing from the landline headset?
Your problem is mental. You're mental. Sort that shit out.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 04:38:21 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 04:38:21 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
Because you can't fit 400,000+ people in a concert hall.Quote from: "RW"
Many people are starting to feel the lgbt won't be happy until they can justifiably have orgies in elementary school playgrounds. I'm starting to see their point.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:42:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:42:02 PM
I don't think a parade is necessary. If they want to celebrate their gayhood, they should. Why can't they, instead of a parade, have a gay pride fest? It should be like a Woodstock theme, in a vast space like a park and invite bands, have rides galore, food, concession stands and other activities to please their hearts to their hearts' content. There, they can display and exhibit all they want. If I were the mayor, I'd even declare a 2-day gay fest in June or July, a Saturday and Sunday, there at that park over yonder in place of a parade. A two-day fest over a parade is quite a good deal. No one will ever agree to this because they just love attention-whoring, which seems to be backfiring, because it's not getting only positive attention.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Exactly. But they want their way period and fuck everyone else. Even the growing group of homosrxuals who are mortified by this.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 04, 2015, 05:53:12 PM
Post by: J0E on July 04, 2015, 05:53:12 PM
Actually I wonder why there isnt a similar sex-crazed parade/spectacle fer straight people?I don't think a parade is necessary. If they want to celebrate their gayhood, they should. Why can't they, instead of a parade, have a gay pride fest? It should be like a Woodstock theme, in a vast space like a park and invite bands, have rides galore, food, concession stands and other activities to please their hearts to their hearts' content. There, they can display and exhibit all they want. If I were the mayor, I'd even declare a 2-day gay fest in June or July, a Saturday and Sunday, there at that park over yonder in place of a parade. A two-day fest over a parade is quite a good deal. No one will ever agree to this because they just love attention-whoring, which seems to be backfiring, because it's not getting only positive attention.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Exactly. But they want their way period and fuck everyone else. Even the growing group of homosrxuals who are mortified by this.
Y'know, we heteroes need a release ta git our rocks off too.
How about a festival featuring an orgy or a cunnulingus tent?
Nude girls on parade? They could also have a "Let's play doctor!" Tent.
A play recreating Borgia Pope Leo's notorious 'Night of the Chestnuts'?
Strip poker? Nude twister? Since one sub-group got thers, least they kin do is offer it to the majority.
Ah if only.........but wait, unlike gays, I guess for straight people overt displays of sexuality is considered 'vulgar', 'obscene', 'crude' & 'sexist'.
......Oh well!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 06:09:27 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 06:09:27 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 07:29:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 07:29:53 PM
Yeah I was gonna point out some "straight festivals" aren't much different. But there is more than that that goes on too. Don't act like these parades are g rated now. If only I could figure out how to post pictures lolShame you aren't planning the festivities Frank. They just have boring old Telus tents, stop fur trading, and booths where you can get ice cold water and rainbow flags.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 04, 2015, 08:06:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 04, 2015, 08:06:28 PM
By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 08:06:58 PM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 08:06:58 PM
And this is the problem. Your thinking is so horrifically extreme that you reason if people can do some things in public, like funerals and weddings, they should be allowed to do anything. And you call me mental because I'm capable of understanding boundaries and compromise.
Extreme? It's fine for slow motorcades to drive around a casket of rotting bits in some sort of archaic and perverse religious wank but nudity has nasty bits? How about hoards of mindless intoxicated Neanderthals thumping their chests towards a bunch of colored swaths of cloth every year and lighting off explosives in the sky while eating undercooked chicken and puking on their own feet?
Oh, wait. Those festivities have permits and I'm able to keep myself and my children away from such bollocks. Who am I to complain what happens in the public square then? I know that it's happening and while I don't agree with the participants or their obscene displays,
You aren't going to change my mind on this. And considering I've stated ad nauseum what my issue with the pride fest actually is....you should be able to take as a theme and understand the same goes for any parade out in public day light hours. A concert? That's held in a private venue. DER.Quote
Concerts don't also happen in parks, reserves, and beaches? My CD collection is disappearing like a picture of Doc Brown as we speak!
Why don't the gays, do the fest in a concert hall then. Perfect. You can have all the blow up dolls and dick cups and sagging ass in an environment where others aren't being put upon in neighborhoods they pay taxes for too.Quote
Why can't corpses be buried immediately instead of paraded around by imbeciles? Why don't the Nation Day morons rent a stadium and puke in the bleachers? Your entire argument is flawed and while you state that you have no problem with homosexuality, in the end you actually do because you're happy to discriminate equal access and chuck up spurious claims about public nudity and hooliganism.
I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this, because even my small children understand the difference between posting online nude and frolicking out in public nude. I shouldn't have to walk you through an exchange like this because of your extreme thinking. You just want to be right, not understand other people, and the all or nothing crap, is crap. I am posting from an American perspective because I live in America. Why do you expect other people to go outside of themselves to accommodate your opinions when you are combative against doing the same?Quote
Please don't respond anymore. You haven't got a leg to stand on in this debate and I'm beginning to tire of attempting to educate a hypocrite with a righteousness complex.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 04, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 09:15:58 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 09:15:58 PM
By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Because they have one parade in a year?
They have a designated 3 hour stint where they can let loose and celebrate their sexuality and that's too much for you? That gets the biggest "AW MUFFIN" I could possibly muster.
Get a grip Spectre. This is what compromise looks like.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
exactly.By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:45:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:45:17 PM
I actually do have a leg to stand on and I'm certainly not alone with this. You can have the maturity to respect other people's points of view or not, but the last I checked, you don't have the authority to decide whose thoughts are valid. This is exactly the mentality I'm talking about. Selfish, entitled. You don't even understand my argument and you are reaching.
And this is the problem. Your thinking is so horrifically extreme that you reason if people can do some things in public, like funerals and weddings, they should be allowed to do anything. And you call me mental because I'm capable of understanding boundaries and compromise.
Extreme? It's fine for slow motorcades to drive around a casket of rotting bits in some sort of archaic and perverse religious wank but nudity has nasty bits? How about hoards of mindless intoxicated Neanderthals thumping their chests towards a bunch of colored swaths of cloth every year and lighting off explosives in the sky while eating undercooked chicken and puking on their own feet?
Oh, wait. Those festivities have permits and I'm able to keep myself and my children away from such bollocks. Who am I to complain what happens in the public square then? I know that it's happening and while I don't agree with the participants or their obscene displays,. I don't have to witness it unless I want toYou aren't going to change my mind on this. And considering I've stated ad nauseum what my issue with the pride fest actually is....you should be able to take as a theme and understand the same goes for any parade out in public day light hours. A concert? That's held in a private venue. DER.Quote
Concerts don't also happen in parks, reserves, and beaches? My CD collection is disappearing like a picture of Doc Brown as we speak!Why don't the gays, do the fest in a concert hall then. Perfect. You can have all the blow up dolls and dick cups and sagging ass in an environment where others aren't being put upon in neighborhoods they pay taxes for too.Quote
Why can't corpses be buried immediately instead of paraded around by imbeciles? Why don't the Nation Day morons rent a stadium and puke in the bleachers? Your entire argument is flawed and while you state that you have no problem with homosexuality, in the end you actually do because you're happy to discriminate equal access and chuck up spurious claims about public nudity and hooliganism.I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this, because even my small children understand the difference between posting online nude and frolicking out in public nude. I shouldn't have to walk you through an exchange like this because of your extreme thinking. You just want to be right, not understand other people, and the all or nothing crap, is crap. I am posting from an American perspective because I live in America. Why do you expect other people to go outside of themselves to accommodate your opinions when you are combative against doing the same?Quote
Please don't respond anymore. You haven't got a leg to stand on in this debate and I'm beginning to tire of attempting to educate a hypocrite with a righteousness complex.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
Straight people typically keep their adult themed shenanigans to private venues or night time hours. No one is saying anything against the parade itself.By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Because they have one parade in a year?
They have a designated 3 hour stint where they can let loose and celebrate their sexuality and that's too much for you? That gets the biggest "AW MUFFIN" I could possibly muster.
Get a grip Spectre. This is what compromise looks like.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 10:02:15 PM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 10:02:15 PM
And this is the problem. Your thinking is so horrifically extreme that you reason if people can do some things in public, like funerals and weddings, they should be allowed to do anything. And you call me mental because I'm capable of understanding boundaries and compromise.
Extreme? It's fine for slow motorcades to drive around a casket of rotting bits in some sort of archaic and perverse religious wank but nudity has nasty bits? How about hoards of mindless intoxicated Neanderthals thumping their chests towards a bunch of colored swaths of cloth every year and lighting off explosives in the sky while eating undercooked chicken and puking on their own feet?
Oh, wait. Those festivities have permits and I'm able to keep myself and my children away from such bollocks. Who am I to complain what happens in the public square then? I know that it's happening and while I don't agree with the participants or their obscene displays,. I don't have to witness it unless I want toYou aren't going to change my mind on this. And considering I've stated ad nauseum what my issue with the pride fest actually is....you should be able to take as a theme and understand the same goes for any parade out in public day light hours. A concert? That's held in a private venue. DER.Quote
Concerts don't also happen in parks, reserves, and beaches? My CD collection is disappearing like a picture of Doc Brown as we speak!Why don't the gays, do the fest in a concert hall then. Perfect. You can have all the blow up dolls and dick cups and sagging ass in an environment where others aren't being put upon in neighborhoods they pay taxes for too.Quote
Why can't corpses be buried immediately instead of paraded around by imbeciles? Why don't the Nation Day morons rent a stadium and puke in the bleachers? Your entire argument is flawed and while you state that you have no problem with homosexuality, in the end you actually do because you're happy to discriminate equal access and chuck up spurious claims about public nudity and hooliganism.I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this, because even my small children understand the difference between posting online nude and frolicking out in public nude. I shouldn't have to walk you through an exchange like this because of your extreme thinking. You just want to be right, not understand other people, and the all or nothing crap, is crap. I am posting from an American perspective because I live in America. Why do you expect other people to go outside of themselves to accommodate your opinions when you are combative against doing the same?Quote
Please don't respond anymore. You haven't got a leg to stand on in this debate and I'm beginning to tire of attempting to educate a hypocrite with a righteousness complex.
That's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black there, Dove.
You've repeatedly demonstrated that you are intolerant of certain types of permitted activities and festivals but have no problems with the permitted ones you happen agree with. Selfish and entitled you are indeed. You're also arrogant, self righteous, and expect society to bow down at your now puritan feet. In your short time at TBC, you've admitted being a former stripper, heroin addict, and now religious person. From one extreme to another you've demonstrated that your judgement isn't solid and therefore your current opinion is no more solid than shooting drugs in your veins, prostituting your body for cash, or worshiping unproven phantoms.
Nice job decimating yourself. You may drop the subject at your earliest convenience.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Because they have one parade in a year?
They have a designated 3 hour stint where they can let loose and celebrate their sexuality and that's too much for you? That gets the biggest "AW MUFFIN" I could possibly muster.
Get a grip Spectre. This is what compromise looks like.
Dove, you are bitching about one annual event and even that is too much for you. Where is YOUR respect for the gay community's want to celebrate their diversity? You want them to do it your way and I say to kindly go fuck your selfish self. Take Spectre with you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:35:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:35:43 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:45:42 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:45:42 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
What respect are you offering? Because I'm not seeing any.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 10:49:02 PM
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 10:49:02 PM
Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
What respect are you offering?
None, if the behaviors and opinions of others don't click with hers?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:54:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:54:10 PM
How many times have I told you to fuck off or insulted you in this conversation? How many times have I actually attacked your opinions and attempted to dismiss them? And how many times have you? There you go.Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
What respect are you offering? Because I'm not seeing any.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:58:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:58:33 PM
Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
Grown men exposing themselves in front of children cannot seriously demand respect.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:58:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 10:58:58 PM
You want them to celebrate diversity according to how you see fit. Where's the respect in that? You don't want harmony. You want conformity. And IMHO, you can go suck an egg.Quote from: "RW"
Actually you are demanding conformity. I'm not trying to change you or throw fits because you think people should be allowed to hold adult themed parades and run around half naked. I'm only pointing out how intrusive that is on public streets shared by everyone...including those who find it disturbing ....and the lack of respect by not waiting until families are inside or having a private venue. I don't understand why keeping clothes on is such a violation of "diversity" but whatever.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:00:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:00:27 PM
well they are.Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
Grown men exposing themselves in front of children cannot seriously demand respect.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:15:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:15:32 PM
You want them to celebrate diversity according to how you see fit. Where's the respect in that? You don't want harmony. You want conformity. And IMHO, you can go suck an egg.Quote from: "RW"
Actually you are demanding conformity. I'm not trying to change you or throw fits because you think people should be allowed to hold adult themed parades and run around half naked.I'm only pointing out how intrusive that is on public streets shared by everyone...including those who find it disturbing ....and the lack of respect by not waiting until families are inside or having a private venue. I don't understand why keeping clothes on is such a violation of "diversity" but whatever.
I agree Dove.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:32:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:32:42 PM
You'd think they would want to keep it a clean event during the day that's appropriate and sensitive to those who have families and "delicate sensibilities" so everyone could come and celebrate with them during the day. Plenty of homosexuals have families too. And then when the sun goes down...break out the thongs and penis cups and the mock crucifixion porno plays. But I guess they'd rather perpetuate the stereotype and make enemies.Quote from: "Dove"
They do seem to be needlessly angering people by not exercising common courtesy..
But, as you have stated, some gays are also sensitive to the community too.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 01:24:56 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 01:24:56 AM
By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Because they have one parade in a year?
They have a designated 3 hour stint where they can let loose and celebrate their sexuality and that's too much for you? That gets the biggest "AW MUFFIN" I could possibly muster.
Get a grip Spectre. This is what compromise looks like.
You miss the entire point.
3 hours, 3 days or 3 weeks. The point is they convey a message that simultaneously promotes their lifestyle, and puts up a finger at ours.
If this was about pride, or celebration, they would march along, wearing jeans and T shirts, and recognising they are part of the same society as STRAIGHT people.
Why, then, do they wear promiscuous clothing, adopt sexually aggressive postures and messages, and in some cases sneer at the very society they wish to belong to.
Being gay is OK. Being straight is OK. But, if strippers and hookers marched the streets celebrating heterosexual attitudes and lifestyles, whilst dressed in corsets and suspenders, or topless, is THAT what we want to promote is good citizenship?
A line has to be drawn at some point, or the harbingers of doom may have a point. Humanity has an abysmal record of knowing when to cease destructive or anti-community attitudes and conduct. Guilt is a powerful weapon for the once-oppressed, and they feed on it for as long as they can get away with it.
There is neither need nor purpose for gays to march the streets and celebrate that they are gay. Nobody cares but them.
I sure as fuck don't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 01:43:50 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 01:43:50 AM
By saying people can't have a parade once a year because you think it's wrong is a statement promoting harmony? I'm sorry but HA!Quote from: "RW"
Harmony is NOT giving one side carte blanche to behave like sequinned sleazebags that promotes or idealises their lifestyle.
Allowing mosques in our cities is not harmonising.
Harmonising is BOTH sides respecting the values and attitude of the other.
Gays do not appear to hold that respect.
Because they have one parade in a year?
They have a designated 3 hour stint where they can let loose and celebrate their sexuality and that's too much for you? That gets the biggest "AW MUFFIN" I could possibly muster.
Get a grip Spectre. This is what compromise looks like.
You miss the entire point.
3 hours, 3 days or 3 weeks. The point is they convey a message that simultaneously promotes their lifestyle, and puts up a finger at ours.
Celebrating homosexuality is an affront to your heterosexuality? It sure isn't to me. It just is. It's simply other people with other ways.
If this was about pride, or celebration, they would march along, wearing jeans and T shirts, and recognising they are part of the same society as STRAIGHT people.Quote
What's the point of a parade if everyone turns up in their casual everyday clothing? Should marching bands, soldiers, police, boy and girl scouts, and the rest all wear this casual parade clothing you're suggesting?
Why, then, do they wear promiscuous clothing, adopt sexually aggressive postures and messages, and in some cases sneer at the very society they wish to belong to.Quote
Sexually aggressive postures, messages, and promiscuous clothing at a celebration about sexuality? Say it isn't so?
Being gay is OK. Being straight is OK. But, if strippers and hookers marched the streets celebrating heterosexual attitudes and lifestyles, whilst dressed in corsets and suspenders, or topless, is THAT what we want to promote is good citizenship?Quote
Happens all of the time. What is this "good citizenship" you speak of anyway? Things in society you agree with or are you capable of accepting that which you don't necessarily agree with?
A line has to be drawn at some point, or the harbingers of doom may have a point. Humanity has an abysmal record of knowing when to cease destructive or anti-community attitudes and conduct. Guilt is a powerful weapon for the once-oppressed, and they feed on it for as long as they can get away with it.Quote
There is neither need nor purpose for gays to march the streets and celebrate that they are gay. Nobody cares but them.
I sure as fuck don't.
Great. You don't care. So that's the end of this discussion?
It's obviously not the end of this discussion for you because while you say you don't care what others get up to, you've got personal stipulations you're insisting they abide by despite the fact that they're following the letter of the law and seeking permission to hold their festivities.
Don't like it? Don't attend. It's what I do every Anzac Day or mindless sporting event. I don't attend. Case closed.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 02:11:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 02:11:09 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 02:24:27 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 02:24:27 AM
Honestly if you want respect, you have to give it as well. It's a 2 way street. The gay community has begun demanding respect that they don't give. And as I said....plenty of homosexuals are seeing that and pulling away from it.Quote from: "Dove"
What respect are you offering? Because I'm not seeing any.
I'm not a parading gay person.
Sorry about the colourful language. I get worked up about this issue.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 02:50:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 02:50:25 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 02:55:09 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 02:55:09 AM
And every parade isn't everyone's taste.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 03:05:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 03:05:19 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 03:10:11 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 03:10:11 AM
You are clearly one of those people who doesn't take the time to listen to what's actually being said, but rather you pick key words to bark at. You talk alot...but you don't communicate.Quote from: "Dove"
We're not communicating on this issue anymore. You said you were done and I welcomed you being done with it yet you keep talking, and talking, and talking at me.
On this issue you're worse than the local village religious idiot preaching at the passersby or a drug addicted stripper skidmarking up and down the chrome pole till her panties have enough low denomination notes to get another fix.
Irony, sweet irony.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 03:13:40 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 03:13:40 AM
You can't let gays have one parade during the day and be flamboyant as is warranted by an entertainment based medium and you call them unreasonable!? You call THEM disrespectful?!
Again, you want gays to behave as you see fit and even go so far as to inflate support for your argument. It doesn't fly.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:08:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:08:22 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:15:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:15:10 AM
We never actually communicated on this issue to begin with. Reason being is mostly due to you busting into conversations like a downs syndrome inflicted Kool Aid man rambling your idiotic circular statements with machine gun regularity, regardless if it's even valid to the points being made. The fact that you said you would not have objected my choice to exploit myself and use heroin, yet you have all kinds of nonsensical objects to spirituality and the standard of common courtesy and respect for others, has already pegged you as an argumentive cretin with shitty judgement who shouldn't be taken seriously. Dismissed. Stop with lame attempts to insult me. You don't have what it takes.You are clearly one of those people who doesn't take the time to listen to what's actually being said, but rather you pick key words to bark at. You talk alot...but you don't communicate.Quote from: "Dove"
We're not communicating on this issue anymore. You said you were done and I welcomed you being done with it yet you keep talking, and talking, and talking at me.
On this issue you're worse than the local village religious idiot preaching at the passersby or a drug addicted stripper skidmarking up and down the chrome pole till her panties have enough low denomination notes to get another fix.
Irony, sweet irony.:laugh3:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:23:12 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:23:12 AM
You are clearly one of those people who doesn't take the time to listen to what's actually being said, but rather you pick key words to bark at. You talk alot...but you don't communicate.Quote from: "Dove"
We're not communicating on this issue anymore. You said you were done and I welcomed you being done with it yet you keep talking, and talking, and talking at me.
On this issue you're worse than the local village religious idiot preaching at the passersby or a drug addicted stripper skidmarking up and down the chrome pole till her panties have enough low denomination notes to get another fix.
Irony, sweet irony.:laugh3:
I'm happy to drop the conversation and your ironic claims or carry on in more suitable venue like Naughty Squirrels. This has all devolved into a flamewar and I'm sure there are plenty of people who would rather debate the issue than watch us fling poo at one another.
Make a thread in NS if you still want to carry on. I've somewhat buried the hatchet with you in the other thread. Your choice.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:28:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 04:28:55 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 04:43:23 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 04:43:23 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:44:39 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:44:39 AM
Don't you dare fuck off Dinky
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 04:50:42 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 04:50:42 AM
If you wish Dinky to join you...so be it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:55:02 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:55:02 AM
How many times...every time you step up, you end up on your ass.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
If you wish Dinky to join you...so be it.
I've beat you my fair share of times and this will be another. If already spanked your ass and will do so again when I get to my desk.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:56:59 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:56:59 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 05, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
Post by: J0E on July 05, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
Just wait until the femnazis realize the Transgender ideas of "female" and watch the liberal civil war commence. Lol.Quote from: "Dove"
....may already be in the works.
This article may be of interest to you.
....posted it earlier in another thread:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 05, 2015, 05:06:33 AM
Post by: J0E on July 05, 2015, 05:06:33 AM
They're probably American feminists who had the bejeezuz scared outta them by the moral majority.
George w. Bush and the spate of religious righite republicans were the last straw, especially they came close overturning Roe vs.Wade. so they probably said never again and decided to align themselves with an encourage the LGBTQ movement. And of course the latter laps it all up suckled weaned and empowered by their ally.
So if the moral majority was trying to push the needle so far the right that it could never be turned back, the left is employing the same tactics. I bet the judges on the USSC who sided with them were anxious to vote yes on Gay rights since Obama is stepping down and just in case Hillary doesn't win, the GOP now can't turn the needle back.
So the feminists and the left use the LGBT community to get what they want.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 05:36:38 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 05:36:38 AM
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Don't try and ingratiate yourself. You started to fire warning shots, now you've attracted my rather more combatant attention. Lucky you.
This has nothing to do with "morality". If that were so, we would be debating homosexuality. Apparently you've not grasped that homosexuality is not the issue.
To help you focus, the issue is whether a sexually discrete group of people should be parading their particular proclivities on public streets in a manner that glorifies and promotes their particular sexuality.
Most of the rational people here are saying that promoting ANY form of sexuality in public displays is inappropriate. That includes heterosexual, solo-sexuals, sado-masochists, paedophiles, bestials, gangbangers, swingers, exhibitionists, nudists and any other facet of human sexuality.
If you wish to celebrate, rent a sports ground, charge admission, and let people make a choice.
You also seem unwilling to address the question I've posed more than once; what is the compelling reason these people wish to flaunt their sexuality to the world at large?
C'mon, biatch...show me some smarts.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 05:53:44 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 05:53:44 AM
I've made my argument, it's a valid one, and it is what it is. Nothing further is required with such a balanced and respectful stance. Anything else is just insults for the sake of insults which while fun for a spell, can get old and repetitive-
- like you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 06:20:24 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 06:20:24 AM
I've officially seen every cliche bullshit argument from Nazism to weeping for unfortunate children to "gay lifestyles" to the ole beastiality reference.
You (and others here) have no respect for diversity in sexual expression. You want gays out on your terms not their's. That's the very oppression they are parading out against.
As for the children argument, it's been stated multiple times now that no parent is forced to attend a parade that is sexuality based with (or even without) their children. If children are seeing nudity and other sexual displays, they are doing so at their parents' discretion. Believe it or not, some parents willingly and knowingly attend these parades with their children to celebrate diversity. (I will discuss the benefits of this up in Polka.).
The public street and daylight comments are a non-starter. Dove mentioned a "time and a place" and the designated parade route is that time and place. This attitude that one should be able to go wherever he or she pleases and not see anything offensive is unrealistic. No one has that guarantee but in this case, it's easily avoided.
The word "respect" gets thrown around and the greatest disrespect in this argument is the one that calls for conformity. It's said gay people have come so far that they don't even need parades while the majority of those posting here are saying how they should express themselves so that you respect them. How about you just respect them for the humans they are and leave them the hell alone? Why is this so difficult for you? They aren't hurting you or anybody else by having a parade in daylight - with or without clothes on - yet you insist on raining on their parade.
Just how selfish are you?
And I'll throw in a ".... yeah .... and the horse you rode in on!" for that combative edge.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 06:22:52 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 06:22:52 AM
Spec, you are embarrassing yourself. I started with the nastiness so let's you and I dance.Quote from: "RW"
I've officially seen every cliche bullshit argument from Nazism to weeping for unfortunate children to "gay lifestyles" to the ole beastiality reference.
You (and others here) have no respect for diversity in sexual expression. You want gays out on your terms not their's. That's the very oppression they are parading out against.
As for the children argument, it's been stated multiple times now that no parent is forced to attend a parade that is sexuality based with (or even without) their children. If children are seeing nudity and other sexual displays, they are doing so at their parents' discretion. Believe it or not, some parents willingly and knowingly attend these parades with their children to celebrate diversity. (I will discuss the benefits of this up in Polka.).
The public street and daylight comments are a non-starter. Dove mentioned a "time and a place" and the designated parade route is that time and place. This attitude that one should be able to go wherever he or she pleases and not see anything offensive is unrealistic on a good day. No one has that guarantee but in this case, it's easily avoided.
The word "respect" gets thrown around and the greatest disrespect in this argument is the one that calls for conformity. It's said gay people have come so far that they don't even need parades while the majority of those posting here are saying how they should express themselves so that you respect them. How about you just respect them for the humans they are and leave them the hell alone? Why is this so difficult for you.
They aren't hurting you or anybody else by having a parade in daylight - with or without clothes on - yet you insist on raining on their parade.
How selfish are you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:02:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:02:16 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
Fine?
Warning two
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:08:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:08:09 AM
The simple fact that you can't comprehend the huge difference between a nude beach and the busy streets of Chicago just shows you lack the capability to even grasp anything being said. Nudist go to nude beaches to enjoy being nude. They don't lounge around in open public places. The nude beach angel actually reinforces what we are attempting to express.That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:09:14 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:09:14 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:10:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:10:30 AM
Or what? You'll type more nonsense? LolThat's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
ac_toofunny
Fine?
Warning two
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:11:19 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:11:19 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:15:05 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:15:05 AM
Thanks for coming out.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:15:27 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:15:27 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Again with the insults? Can't you help yourself?
Warning three.
I thought i was the only who gave warnings around here?Quote from: "Keeper"
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
ac_toofunny
Fine?
Warning two
Warning four, isn't it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:15:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:15:54 AM
The problem with this is that many people DO find carousing about in busy public places during the day harmful, and invalidating those people IS disrespectful. What about people who need to pass through those areas and don't want their kids to see mostly nude people making out during remakes of Christ's crucifiction? They need to work their life around avoiding it? When this sort of thing could be done at night or in a private venue where it isn't so imposing on others?Spec, you are embarrassing yourself. I started with the nastiness so let's you and I dance.Quote from: "RW"
I've officially seen every cliche bullshit argument from Nazism to weeping for unfortunate children to "gay lifestyles" to the ole beastiality reference.
You (and others here) have no respect for diversity in sexual expression. You want gays out on your terms not their's. That's the very oppression they are parading out against.
As for the children argument, it's been stated multiple times now that no parent is forced to attend a parade that is sexuality based with (or even without) their children. If children are seeing nudity and other sexual displays, they are doing so at their parents' discretion. Believe it or not, some parents willingly and knowingly attend these parades with their children to celebrate diversity. (I will discuss the benefits of this up in Polka.).
The public street and daylight comments are a non-starter. Dove mentioned a "time and a place" and the designated parade route is that time and place. This attitude that one should be able to go wherever he or she pleases and not see anything offensive is unrealistic. No one has that guarantee but in this case, it's easily avoided.
The word "respect" gets thrown around and the greatest disrespect in this argument is the one that calls for conformity. It's said gay people have come so far that they don't even need parades while the majority of those posting here are saying how they should express themselves so that you respect them. How about you just respect them for the humans they are and leave them the hell alone? Why is this so difficult for you? They aren't hurting you or anybody else by having a parade in daylight - with or without clothes on - yet you insist on raining on their parade.
Just how selfish are you?
And I'll throw in a ".... yeah .... and the horse you rode in on!" for that combative edge.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:16:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:16:43 AM
So I need to conform to your ideas on what's acceptable then? Hmmmm.....That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Again with the insults? Can't you help yourself?:laugh:
Warning three.I thought i was the only who gave warnings around here?Quote from: "Keeper"
ac_smile It's nothing official. I've simply decided to issue a warning to Dove for every time she doesn't want to behave herself after I offered her the peace pipe.That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
ac_toofunny
Fine?
Warning two
Warning four, isn't it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Ooooo...who's a nasty girl then...
Fuck off, you vapid twat. You want to play hardball, talk to me. You're not even listening to other perspectives, simply applying the same asinine invectives to those who are NOT homophobic, nor denying that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
They are simply saying that celebrating sexuality, particularly that followed by less then 1% of the population, in a public and deprecating manner to the rest of us is unacceptable. A position I hold.
You fag fans are missing the point; celebrating sexuality is a frivolous and imprudent activity. Flaunting naked buttocks to children is bordering on abusive and indecent. It does not MATTER that the culprits are gay. It matters that they are imprudent, disrespectful, and far more decadent that our society can afford.
Now, you want to argue on merit rather than puerile posturing, I'm your man.
And I don't give warnings, you vacuous slag. I simply start shooting.
I have listened to other moral majority arguments besides yours and they have all but turned their backs on accepting a time and place for the LGBT community to let loose and do their thing when the sun is shining as well as at night. For some reason, a few you have decided that a celebration of homosexuality should be hidden away like homosexuality once had to be hidden away.
No sane human being would advocate flaunting their buttocks at children. Such people would seek out a time and place to do so and expect parents to do their jobs and maintain a healthy distance, if such parents felt it morally objectionable for their children to be around such antics. It's no different than taking your children to a nude beach if public nudity is an affront to your way of thinking.
I find it ironic that a number of you aren't really as accepting as you've made yourselves out to be.
I've attempted to bury the hatchet with Dove already. Do try to behave yourself.
Again with the insults? Can't you help yourself?:laugh:
Warning three.I thought i was the only who gave warnings around here?Quote from: "Keeper"
ac_smile It's nothing official. I've simply decided to issue a warning to Dove for every time she doesn't want to behave herself after I offered her the peace pipe.That's a strong boast to accompany what amounts to empty words. Let the poo slinging go, Dove. Warning one.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Not really. I'm retired from the world of trolling/flaming. I don't "sling poo", I let off nukes that made my name Google worthy. I'm probably ip banned from half of AL gores innerWebz. Sit down, kid. Go to a flame board if you are so desperate to be abused.
ac_toofunny
Fine?
Warning two
Warning four, isn't it?
Good on you for trying to be civil again.
I'll deduct a warning. You're back to three.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:20:51 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:20:51 AM
It isn't hurting anyone. It's easily avoided. We aren't so entitled as straighties that we can't share the streets for a few hours. The crowd is 5/6 people thick during these parades. You'd see nothing but the backs of heads if you were walking the parade route unless you specifically made an effort to see something. The streets are also shut down to traffic.
Honest to God, can we please stop grasping at the straws of idiocy for your self righteous justification of raining on someone's pride parade. Pretty please?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:26:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:26:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:27:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:27:50 AM
Dude you really need to look at the pictures of what I'm talking about. I'm thinking perhaps in your country it's not like how it is here. And I know plenty of homosexuals out of the closet happily with out the need to make pornographic displays of themselves in public. Really? Have you seen what goes on at American gay festivals?Or why don't we just shove them right back in the closet, eh Dove?Quote from: "RW"
It isn't hurting anyone. It's easily avoided. We aren't so entitled as straighties that we can't share the streets for a few hours. The crowd is 5/6 people thick during these parades. You'd see nothing but the backs of heads if you were walking the parade route unless you specifically made an effort to see something. The streets are also shut down to traffic.
Honest to God, can we please stop grasping at the straws of idiocy for your self righteous justification of raining on someone's pride parade. Pretty please?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:30:21 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:30:21 AM
Btw, I respect and enjoy sexuality immensely. And it's because I respect sexuality that I feel it should be treated with respect....not thrown about city streets in broad daylight right in everyone's face like a pornographic circus show. It makes it cheap and no more sacred than a community dumping ground. I celebrated my sexuality several times this week. I'll probably celebrate it before church while the kids are still sleeping. Without imposing it on the city I live in.Quote from: "Dove"
Everyone's face? Again, you seem to miss the very salient point that only those who wish to see such a thing will see it.
If you want to respect SEXUAL DIVERSITY, sit down and STFU. People are celebrating in the way THEY see fit.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
Or why don't we just shove them right back in the closet, eh Dove?Quote from: "RW"
It isn't hurting anyone. It's easily avoided. We aren't so entitled as straighties that we can't share the streets for a few hours. The crowd is 5/6 people thick during these parades. You'd see nothing but the backs of heads if you were walking the parade route unless you specifically made an effort to see something. The streets are also shut down to traffic.
Honest to God, can we please stop grasping at the straws of idiocy for your self righteous justification of raining on someone's pride parade. Pretty please?
I'm a Canadian woman.
I don't care if they parade around with their dicks in each other's asses elephant style in the U.S.
And again, you can know thousands of gay people who aren't into pride festivals. The beauty of our countries is the FREEDOM to participate or not.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
Btw, I respect and enjoy sexuality immensely. And it's because I respect sexuality that I feel it should be treated with respect....not thrown about city streets in broad daylight right in everyone's face like a pornographic circus show. It makes it cheap and no more sacred than a community dumping ground. I celebrated my sexuality several times this week. I'll probably celebrate it before church while the kids are still sleeping. Without imposing it on the city I live in.Quote from: "Dove"
Everyone's face? Again, you seem to miss the very salient point that only those who wish to see such a thing will see it.
If you want to respect SEXUAL DIVERSITY, sit down and STFU. People are celebrating in the way THEY see fit.
I'm not missing that point. However, you are missing my point that very public places are shared by everyone and this is imposing on people who have to go out of their way to avoid it. It's removing the choice of others who are uncomfortable with x rated material occurring right out in the middle of town while they have to work or pass through or find ways around it. Telling them to shut up and stay in thier house or avoid that section is what's unreasonable when there is an option of creating an environment for everyone during the day and doing the adult sex displays during the time when only adults are out. Again, things are probably different here in the states.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:40:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:40:35 AM
Well I do, and I'm in the states, and that's what I'm fussing about.Or why don't we just shove them right back in the closet, eh Dove?Quote from: "RW"
It isn't hurting anyone. It's easily avoided. We aren't so entitled as straighties that we can't share the streets for a few hours. The crowd is 5/6 people thick during these parades. You'd see nothing but the backs of heads if you were walking the parade route unless you specifically made an effort to see something. The streets are also shut down to traffic.
Honest to God, can we please stop grasping at the straws of idiocy for your self righteous justification of raining on someone's pride parade. Pretty please?
I'm a Canadian woman.
I don't care if they parade around with their dicks in each other's asses elephant style in the U.S.
And again, you can know thousands of gay people who aren't into pride festivals. The beauty of our countries is the FREEDOM to participate or not.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:40:54 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:40:54 AM
That goes double for Spectre's.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:43:56 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 07:43:56 AM
Or why don't we just shove them right back in the closet, eh Dove?Quote from: "RW"
It isn't hurting anyone. It's easily avoided. We aren't so entitled as straighties that we can't share the streets for a few hours. The crowd is 5/6 people thick during these parades. You'd see nothing but the backs of heads if you were walking the parade route unless you specifically made an effort to see something. The streets are also shut down to traffic.
Honest to God, can we please stop grasping at the straws of idiocy for your self righteous justification of raining on someone's pride parade. Pretty please?
I'm a Canadian woman.I don't care if they parade around with their dicks in each other's asses elephant style in the U.S.
And again, you can know thousands of gay people who aren't into pride festivals. The beauty of our countries is the FREEDOM to participate or not.
I would attend one of these festivals if they did that.
Seriously though, for me its pretty simple, If i dont want to see that sort of thing i just wont go!! , i see nothing wrong with how they celebrate
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:49:28 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:49:28 AM
I'm not saying you are stupid per se. I'm saying your arguments are.
A pride event probably has ZERO impact or influence on your life yet you bleat on about it. Time to get a grip.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:52:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:52:08 AM
It is literally that simple Keeper but there will always be those entitled assholes who have to kick up a stink about something that affects them in no way whatsoever.Quote from: "RW"
But the point is people who don't want it in the shared public grounds are JUST as entitled to that as the parade seems to feel in doing it. How is this lost on you? Lol. It's a public place and everyone pays taxes for it. And you do know that you get arrested for public indecency for this behavior, right? So it shouldn't be acceptable for homosexuals simply because they are a minority.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
You are also entitled to not walk the streets during a pride event because you don't want to see a peepee or boobie. See how that works?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:56:32 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:56:32 AM
What a fucking joke Dove. Seriously laughable.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:57:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:57:43 AM
No it doesnt. But I'm opinionated and I have Internet access...so alas...lol. I'm not broken up about it. People do unacceptable things in public on the daily. Whether you think my arguments are stupid is really moot, as they are just as valid as the arguments in favor. Not everyone appreciates displays like that in the public places they live in. This is why adult events are typically held in private venues or at night. Pride festivals shouldn't be different in this. If they want to celebrate sexuality by putting it all on display, fine. But follow the same rules everyone else does.We aren't talking any time or anywhere. We are talking about a designated time and place once a year. Come on ole girl, stay with me here in reality.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not saying you are stupid per se. I'm saying your arguments are.
A pride event probably has ZERO impact or influence on your life yet you bleat on about it. Time to get a grip.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Everyone is entitled to public places. That's what makes them public. Making public off limits to a portion of the public is entitled. Not everyone is okay with that.But you are okay with it so long as it happens after dark. That is literally how fickle your decency argument is.Quote from: "RW"
You are also entitled to not walk the streets during a pride event because you don't want to see a peepee or boobie. See how that works?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:04:17 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:04:17 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:08:05 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:08:05 AM
But you are okay with it so long as it happens after dark. That is literally how fickle your decency argument is.Quote from: "RW"
You are also entitled to not walk the streets during a pride event because you don't want to see a peepee or boobie. See how that works?
Where they have the Parade is still a PUBLIC PLACE, they tell you well in advance that : On this day this street at this time: were having a Parade. Its not off limits, JUST DON'T GO. I repeat DONT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Tell me im wrong.....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
Well done.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:11:56 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:11:56 AM
Maybe things are different in the U.S. but here in Canada we have these things called curtains.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
Let me paint a picture for you. I live in a downtown major city. I literally live right in the downtown area. So if a pride fest were to break out here, my family and I are right in it. How do I stop my kids from seeing the nudity and sexual displays occurring around were we live? At night they would be in bed. During the day, I guess I board up my windows and live in prison until everyone gets dressed and lights a smoke? Or am I forced to move? Not everyone had a choice here. Jeez. You guys act like no one lives and or works in these areas.Quote from: "Dove"
let them play x-box?
Finger paint
cooking lessons
read them a story
wash the dog
sex education about sexuality
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:14:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:14:54 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
Oh the humanity!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:16:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:16:15 AM
Yeah, they aren't going to notice the parade going on and want to go see it.Let me paint a picture for you. I live in a downtown major city. I literally live right in the downtown area. So if a pride fest were to break out here, my family and I are right in it. How do I stop my kids from seeing the nudity and sexual displays occurring around were we live? At night they would be in bed. During the day, I guess I board up my windows and live in prison until everyone gets dressed and lights a smoke? Or am I forced to move? Not everyone had a choice here. Jeez. You guys act like no one lives and or works in these areas.Quote from: "Dove"
let them play x-box?
Finger paint
cooking lessons
read them a story
wash the dog
sex education about sexuality
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
So I have to stay inside with my kids with the curtains closed for several days? That's reasonable to you? "Sorry kids, you can't play outside this weekend....and no I can't tell you why. Just deal with it. And don't open the windows either". And then they hear the music and excitement and I'm trapped inside dealing with upset kids and no explanation.Quote from: "Dove"
Days?! The parades around here are 3 hours at best.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:17:13 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:17:13 AM
Let me paint a picture for you. I live in a downtown major city. I literally live right in the downtown area. So if a pride fest were to break out here, my family and I are right in it. How do I stop my kids from seeing the nudity and sexual displays occurring around were we live? At night they would be in bed. During the day, I guess I board up my windows and live in prison until everyone gets dressed and lights a smoke? Or am I forced to move? Not everyone had a choice here. Jeez. You guys act like no one lives and or works in these areas.Quote from: "Dove"
let them play x-box?
Finger paint
cooking lessons
read them a story
wash the dog
sex education about sexuality
Those damn gays need to stop being so damn fun in their parading!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:21:46 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:21:46 AM
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:22:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:22:40 AM
Exactly. Fuck everyone else. Right?Failing that, you poor choiceless woman, gather the kids and stare intently at the naked bodies that will corrupt the very fabric of your children's pure little souls as it has been forced upon you!Quote from: "RW"
Oh the humanity!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:24:07 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:24:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:27:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:27:58 AM
Oh I do see. I'm not making a stink, per say. Im just pointing out that people actions and choices impact others, and harmony and equality are just not ever going to be possible. One group will always force their ways and views on others.I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
It's like Christmas morning and New Years Eve. I don't agree with a lot of the content, don't want my kids watching that stuff, so I either change the channel on the telly or turn it off. A few hours later and it's all over until the next year. Easy as.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:31:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:31:22 AM
This had absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. Ive had sex with a lot of women. Have you ever turned a straight girl gay? I have...lol. This isn't about homosexuality. It's about drawing a line on when and where adult activities take place.No fuck the gays because Princess Dove is precious, right?Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
Just like you are forcing your ways on a gay pride parade?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:33:11 AM
Post by: keeper on July 05, 2015, 08:33:11 AM
I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
I respect your views Dove and i understand what you are saying, many of my family members have the same view.
one day i will come out of the closet and ok im kidding
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:33:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:33:17 AM
Well here in Murica, you can host a porn parade in the middle of the street but you can't put a nativity on your lawn during Christmas. Did I say Christmas? Because they changed that to "holidays".I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
It's like Christmas morning and New Years Eve. I don't agree with a lot of the content, don't want my kids watching that stuff, so I either change the channel on the telly or turn it off. A few hours later and it's all over until the next year. Easy as.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
No fuck the gays because Princess Dove is precious, right?Quote from: "RW"
Last pride parade I went to, no one was fucking in the street.
And dreary, you are not the only woman in this place to have fucked another female.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:34:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:34:25 AM
No I'm not.I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
Just like you are forcing your ways on a gay pride parade?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
It's like Christmas morning and New Years Eve. I don't agree with a lot of the content, don't want my kids watching that stuff, so I either change the channel on the telly or turn it off. A few hours later and it's all over until the next year. Easy as.
That's not right. It's private property. Anyone should be able to put virtually anything they like on their lawns or call Christmas what they want to call it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:36:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:36:33 AM
Again, what goes on here in the states sounds different than what goes on here. And I didn't say I was the only one, did i? I was pointing out that I have "fucked the gays", albeit not in the way you have assumedNo fuck the gays because Princess Dove is precious, right?Quote from: "RW"
Last pride parade I went to, no one was fucking in the street.
And dreary, you are not the only woman in this place to have fucked another female.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:40:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:40:27 AM
Yeah, you'd think so. But the "pc" crap is so overwhelming here that if your Christain expression on your own lawn offends your nieghbor, you'll probably be forced to remove it. There was a family last year whose nativity pissed off a woman down their street....and when the couple refused to comply, they were harassed and vandalized.I dunno Dove, Im just not the kind of guy that would make a stink over something that's been going on for years. It honestly dosent bother me and if it did i would go to my mother in laws or to the lake , sky dive, have sex under the bridge on 5th.Quote from: "Keeper"
See what im getting at? There is always some where to go....
It's like Christmas morning and New Years Eve. I don't agree with a lot of the content, don't want my kids watching that stuff, so I either change the channel on the telly or turn it off. A few hours later and it's all over until the next year. Easy as.
That's not right. It's private property. Anyone should be able to put virtually anything they like on their lawns or call Christmas what they want to call it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:52:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 08:52:50 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:55:53 AM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:55:53 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
No. Public isn't the same as private. And on that note....if I hosted a party with people out on my lawn at ANY time wearing underwear and making out....jail time would be had. Just sayin.Just like its bullshit that you rain on a pride parade.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 10:46:34 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 10:46:34 AM
Written by Selwyn Duke
Bolstered by the Supreme Court's recent DOMA decision, it is reported that two million people attended this past Sunday's homosexual "Pride" parade in New York City. This mirrors increased attendance in such parades nationwide, with participants eager to celebrate what is viewed as a milestone in the advancement of the homosexual agenda.
As per usual, the "Pride" events were supported by liberal politicians and celebrities. Writes CBS New York:
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Gov. Andrew Cuomo and other political leaders marched in the [NYC] parade. Mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner also courted support in the crowd speaking to spectators through a bullhorn, and Public Advocate and candidate Bill de Blasio also marched.
... Serving as this year's grand marshal is musician and activist Harry Belafonte.
... Lady Gaga kicked off the weekend of celebrations with an appearance and performance at the pride rally in TriBeCa.
... Gov. Cuomo also launched the "I Love NY LGBT" tourism website.
In attendance as well was City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who hopes to become NYC's first openly homosexual mayor.
As for notables making appearances elsewhere, CBS writes:
In Chicago, the parade down Halsted Street, Broadway and Diversey Parkway in the city's Boystown and East Lakeview districts was expected to top last year's record attendance of 850,000 people in the wake of the DOMA decision, WBBM Newsradio reported. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn were among the participants, and retired NHL player Wade Davis served as grand marshal.
Yet the picture of unity presented by the media belies the controversy over homosexual parades bubbling beneath the surface. Much of this centers around the nudity and simulated sex acts that are staples of such events and the double standard that allows for them in violation of local decency laws. As Peter LaBarbera writes about what he witnessed during Chicago "Pride" parades:
In 2004, a disgusting gay (oral-anal) sex act that was allowed to go on in the middle of the street (children were seen nearby) — right in front of a row of Chicago cops — involving two guys who were trying to get under the skin of a group of Christian protesters whom the cops were protecting;...
in 2007, a male transvestite (?) going topless with "his" breasts exposed for block after block as cops and parade organizers did nothing; see:
lewd acts (e.g., simulated sodomy) and gyrating sexual dances on floats — including one by an apparent lesbian cop who appeared to be drunk or high, riding atop a Chicago PD float;
a contingent of sadomasochists marching in the parades as they do every year;
blatant anti-religious and anti-conservative bigotry on display — usually equating Christianity or the Catholic Church with "hate";
after the 2007 parade, homosexual "pride" celebrants assaulted two peaceful men giving a Christian street witness in opposition to homosexuality; see
a homosexual bathhouse called "Steamworks," which fields a float every year at the parade. Steamworks is a 24/7 sex club on Halsted Street in Boystown where men go for anonymous sexual liaisons with other men.
In his article LaBarbera points out that the young often witness the above and asks, "Should children attend lewd 'Gay Pride' parades?"
This also raises another serious question: The clarion call among homosexual activists has long been that they just want to be treated like everyone else. So will the authorities ever grant them their wish? As columnist Joe Warmington wrote in 2009 about Toronto's homosexual parade:
"There is frequent nudity and mock sex acts on our main street and that is against the law."
— Rev. Charles McVety
Will there be as many indecent exposure charges handed out this Gay Pride weekend as there will be parking tickets?
... McVety [president of Canada Christian College] says it really comes down to nothing more than enforcing the law of the land equally — and making sure there is not a two-tiered system in which people associated with a powerful movement get away with breaking laws that those not as connected could not.
... police have in the past charged participants for nudity — only to have charges dropped because it was successfully argued the suspects were wearing shoes.
It was not specified on what part of the body the shoes were worn.
In fact, this double standard is now being enshrined in law. Spurred to action by a group of men who habitually display their birthday suits in the city's homosexual Castro district, notoriously libertine San Francisco recently enacted an ordinance prohibiting the exposure of one's genitalia in public (nudity, per se, was not previously illegal in SF). Yet exceptions are made for "the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures," writes CNS News.
It is this apparent hypocrisy that rankles many critics. For while the homosexual movement purports to be concerned with equality, one may ask: Is it really about making some Americans more equal than others?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
"Gay Pride" Parades, Nudity, and NihilismQuote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Written by Selwyn Dukehttp://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/15886-gay-pride-parades-nudity-and-nihilism
Bolstered by the Supreme Court's recent DOMA decision, it is reported that two million people attended this past Sunday's homosexual "Pride" parade in New York City. This mirrors increased attendance in such parades nationwide, with participants eager to celebrate what is viewed as a milestone in the advancement of the homosexual agenda.
As per usual, the "Pride" events were supported by liberal politicians and celebrities. Writes CBS New York:
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Gov. Andrew Cuomo and other political leaders marched in the [NYC] parade. Mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner also courted support in the crowd speaking to spectators through a bullhorn, and Public Advocate and candidate Bill de Blasio also marched.
... Serving as this year's grand marshal is musician and activist Harry Belafonte.
... Lady Gaga kicked off the weekend of celebrations with an appearance and performance at the pride rally in TriBeCa.
... Gov. Cuomo also launched the "I Love NY LGBT" tourism website.
In attendance as well was City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who hopes to become NYC's first openly homosexual mayor.
As for notables making appearances elsewhere, CBS writes:
In Chicago, the parade down Halsted Street, Broadway and Diversey Parkway in the city's Boystown and East Lakeview districts was expected to top last year's record attendance of 850,000 people in the wake of the DOMA decision, WBBM Newsradio reported. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn were among the participants, and retired NHL player Wade Davis served as grand marshal.
Yet the picture of unity presented by the media belies the controversy over homosexual parades bubbling beneath the surface. Much of this centers around the nudity and simulated sex acts that are staples of such events and the double standard that allows for them in violation of local decency laws. As Peter LaBarbera writes about what he witnessed during Chicago "Pride" parades:
In 2004, a disgusting gay (oral-anal) sex act that was allowed to go on in the middle of the street (children were seen nearby) — right in front of a row of Chicago cops — involving two guys who were trying to get under the skin of a group of Christian protesters whom the cops were protecting;...
in 2007, a male transvestite (?) going topless with "his" breasts exposed for block after block as cops and parade organizers did nothing; see:http://americansfortruth.com/news/angry-mob-assaults-peaceful-christians-at-chicago-gay-pride-parade.html
lewd acts (e.g., simulated sodomy) and gyrating sexual dances on floats — including one by an apparent lesbian cop who appeared to be drunk or high, riding atop a Chicago PD float;
a contingent of sadomasochists marching in the parades as they do every year;
blatant anti-religious and anti-conservative bigotry on display — usually equating Christianity or the Catholic Church with "hate";
after the 2007 parade, homosexual "pride" celebrants assaulted two peaceful men giving a Christian street witness in opposition to homosexuality; see; http://americansfortruth.com/news/angry-mob-assaults-peaceful-christians-at-chicago-gay-pride-parade.html
a homosexual bathhouse called "Steamworks," which fields a float every year at the parade. Steamworks is a 24/7 sex club on Halsted Street in Boystown where men go for anonymous sexual liaisons with other men.
In his article LaBarbera points out that the young often witness the above and asks, "Should children attend lewd 'Gay Pride' parades?"
This also raises another serious question: The clarion call among homosexual activists has long been that they just want to be treated like everyone else. So will the authorities ever grant them their wish? As columnist Joe Warmington wrote in 2009 about Toronto's homosexual parade:
"There is frequent nudity and mock sex acts on our main street and that is against the law."
— Rev. Charles McVety
Will there be as many indecent exposure charges handed out this Gay Pride weekend as there will be parking tickets?
... McVety [president of Canada Christian College] says it really comes down to nothing more than enforcing the law of the land equally — and making sure there is not a two-tiered system in which people associated with a powerful movement get away with breaking laws that those not as connected could not.
... police have in the past charged participants for nudity — only to have charges dropped because it was successfully argued the suspects were wearing shoes.
It was not specified on what part of the body the shoes were worn.
In fact, this double standard is now being enshrined in law. Spurred to action by a group of men who habitually display their birthday suits in the city's homosexual Castro district, notoriously libertine San Francisco recently enacted an ordinance prohibiting the exposure of one's genitalia in public (nudity, per se, was not previously illegal in SF). Yet exceptions are made for "the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures," writes CNS News.
It is this apparent hypocrisy that rankles many critics. For while the homosexual movement purports to be concerned with equality, one may ask: Is it really about making some Americans more equal than others?
I take those sources with a big grain of salt. Bozell (CNS), the Buckley's, LaBarbera, John Birch Society, and the AFTAH plus their spinoffs and sister organizations aren't exactly known for balanced policy or social commentary over the years and decades.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 04:41:46 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 04:41:46 PM
I take those sources with a big grain of salt. Bozell (CNS), the Buckley's, LaBarbera, John Birch Society, and the AFTAH plus their spinoffs and sister organizations aren't exactly known for balanced policy or social commentary over the years and decades.
I can appreciate your passion for your principles and beliefs but we, opponents of the obscene displays in our streets, are just as passionate about our own principles, values, and beliefs. We are not here to learn something new. This is how we feel about it and we are just as unbudging as you are. We, like you with your position, stand just as firmly with ours. I'm pleased to know there are still those who have the same views as I about this matter. This pleases me. I want to believe that the lawmakers we elect into office who approve important decisions stick to the law and not bend it for the convenience of certain groups and their agenda. As a concerned citizen and a stakeholder, I am well within my rights to expect this.
The body is a beautiful creation. As a John Mayer song goes,
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
If nudity is an issue, it's time to talk to organizers about it and see if they can find a solution together.Quote from: "RW"
A good compromise might be to allow topless but not bottomless. If it's designed to have pubes around it, keep it covered? Most people already do this as a matter of instinct but for the very odd ones out at these parades who like to freeball or freelip it, maybe they need to have a basic ground rule like that set in stone.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
I take those sources with a big grain of salt. Bozell (CNS), the Buckley's, LaBarbera, John Birch Society, and the AFTAH plus their spinoffs and sister organizations aren't exactly known for balanced policy or social commentary over the years and decades.
I can appreciate your passion for your principles and beliefs but we, opponents of the obscene displays in our streets, are just as passionate about our own principles, values, and beliefs. We are not here to learn something new. This is how we feel about it and we are just as unbudging as you are. We, like you with your position, stand just as firmly with ours. I'm pleased to know there are still those who have the same views as I about this matter. This pleases me. I want to believe that the lawmakers we elect into office who approve important decisions stick to the law and not bend it for the convenience of certain groups and their agenda. As a concerned citizen and a stakeholder, I am well within my rights to expect this.
The body is a beautiful creation. As a John Mayer song goes,your body is a wonderland. However, please don't display it lewdly and obscenely. That is all I ask. There's a place for that freedom any time and anywhere but not on Main Street.
I agree that laws should be stuck to 100 percent of the time (even if they're stupid laws). Maybe then enough enlightened people will get irritated with the sheer number of obnoxiously intrusive or religious dogma tainted laws and overturn most of them.
I do disagree with what you think constitutes lewd or obscene on this and how you characterize other peoples bodies and actions. We're probably not going to ever agree on this but that's fine if you can worry about what your body does and leave other peoples alone to do what's best for them. I find most parades offensive and it's not because of the clothes they're not wearing but the clothes they are wearing though I continue to look the other way albeit shaking my head and quietly cursing them for what I view as ignorance and pack mentality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:00:22 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:00:22 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:03:03 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:03:03 PM
I take those sources with a big grain of salt. Bozell (CNS), the Buckley's, LaBarbera, John Birch Society, and the AFTAH plus their spinoffs and sister organizations aren't exactly known for balanced policy or social commentary over the years and decades.
I can appreciate your passion for your principles and beliefs but we, opponents of the obscene displays in our streets, are just as passionate about our own principles, values, and beliefs. We are not here to learn something new. This is how we feel about it and we are just as unbudging as you are. We, like you with your position, stand just as firmly with ours. I'm pleased to know there are still those who have the same views as I about this matter. This pleases me. I want to believe that the lawmakers we elect into office who approve important decisions stick to the law and not bend it for the convenience of certain groups and their agenda. As a concerned citizen and a stakeholder, I am well within my rights to expect this.
The body is a beautiful creation. As a John Mayer song goes,your body is a wonderland. However, please don't display it lewdly and obscenely. That is all I ask. There's a place for that freedom any time and anywhere but not on Main Street.
I stand by the position that if you don't want to be exposed to something you find lewd or obscene, do not attend a pride event.
Live and let live.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:23:35 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:23:35 PM
I agree that laws should be stuck to 100 percent of the time (even if they're stupid laws). Maybe then enough enlightened people will get irritated with the sheer number of obnoxiously intrusive or religious dogma tainted laws and overturn most of them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I do disagree with what you think constitutes lewd or obscene on this and how you characterize other peoples bodies and actions. We're probably not going to ever agree on this but that's fine if you can worry about what your body does and leave other peoples alone to do what's best for them. I find most parades offensive and it's not because of the clothes they're not wearing but the clothes they are wearing though I continue to look the other way albeit shaking my head and quietly cursing them for what I view as ignorance and pack mentality.
I'm a taxpayer whose taxes also go into the care and maintenance of my Main Street so I also care what transpires on it. I might not be pleased if they use my taxes to paint the street with rainbow colors. Somehow, I don't care if my taxes help the unemployed disabled but the homosexual community too? Hm, they are not disabled.
That's right. We're not going to agree and that's okay. I'm also not trying to change your mind. I'm voicing my displeasure. You mistook my post as caring what people do with their bodies. I don't care what they do with their bodies. I care about upholding the law against indecent exposure. I view a gay pride parade and I see the float that is designed as a penis. What's with the penis float and the sexhibition of this organ? Why the emphasis on that symbol? That is one of the reasons why I question this sexhibit. It's screaming, "Look what we worship! This is our GOD!" If I had young children, I don't want them to get the message that they ought to worship their penises. I want their minds on loftier pursuits.
I like wholesome family parades like the ones for Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Stampede, or July 4th where people are parading proudly their noble causes and their inspiring achievements. It unites a community. It does not divide. These types of parades scream of tastefulness, not lewdness.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
I stand by the position that if you don't want to be exposed to something you find lewd or obscene, do not attend a pride event.Quote from: "RW"
Live and let live.
Nothing will force me to see an event that I don't want to see so I have never attended one but I have read and seen the news items about it enough to know what goes on. One day, perhaps I will see it for myself, if these parades continue. I don't have to go and see it because no one gay I know take part in it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
More than just you pay taxes for those streets. You don't own them any more than a parader does.
On top of it, despite question to the amount, it brings people to your city and they bring money which benefits your local economy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:45:55 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 05:45:55 PM
And all the straight people watching and participating in pride parades isn't uniting?Quote from: "RW"
More than just you pay taxes for those streets. You don't own them any more than a parader does.
On top of it, despite question to the amount, it brings people to your city and they bring money which benefits your local economy.
My hood draws tourists which benefit our local economy nevertheless. This town does not need a gay pride parade to boost its economy. It just does.
There may be straight people uniting at these events but one cannot ignore the loud voices of critics and the opposition.
I may not own the street but my voice against an issue, together with the voices of a multitude of critics on the same issue, could one day be heard. One has to be patient and maybe one day, our united voices will bring on change or an understanding between all parties that all can agree on.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 06:25:10 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 06:25:10 PM
You mean like how the united voices of gays have brought such parades? :)Quote from: "RW"
Absolutely. I don't dismiss that. It all starts with a voice.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 06:45:53 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 06:45:53 PM
I think gays should join the regular parades but without the lewdness and obscenities and pushing the shock factor farther and farther by the year angering conservatives. I think they should join the regular parades and march carrying their banner as their supporters cheer them on while remembering to keep the behavior decent. They will gain more respect this way. We'll say, "Oh, there's the gay community who are contributing members of society--bankers, teachers, accountants, engineers, behaving in such conduct that commands our respect." Is that possible? Behave like the rest of the parade participants? They want to be treated equally so there's a compromise.
By continuing with their current conduct, they are slitting their own throats. Anyway, on to the Women's Soccer match...
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
2 fast goals at the start 2 min, 15 seconds
2 zip - USA
Have you noticed the opposing goal tender close up? .. hmmmm
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 05, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: cc on July 05, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:27:51 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:27:51 PM
It's a designated place allowing nudity (just like a nude beach in fact). There is no difference in terms of a public place being a public place.Quote from: "RW"
Thanks for coming out.
Again, with the ignorance.
A "nude beach" is a specifically designated place where nudity is permitted; it is NOT a public place, because it excludes, for example, persons under 18.
The argument that gays parade their licentious conduct in a public place, thus if you do not wish to be offended stay OUT of said public place runs counter to the whole purpose of a PUBLIC place.
A PUBLIC place is not an appropriate place to celebrate and promote sexuality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
If you don't like what's going on in a public place at a specific time, don't go there. If I don't like car racing, I won't go down to the Indy track during an event. If I don't like jazz music, I don't go to a jazz festival in the public square. If I don't like gay pride parades, I don't attend them. Why is this seemingly so difficult for you to manage?
Where should gay people celebrate their freedom and diversity? In the closet?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:36:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 07:36:31 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Why is this seemingly so difficult for you to manage?Quote from: "RW"
OK, Miss Manage...at what point do you draw the line. By your flawed logic, its OK for me to walk naked down the main commercial street, and if the public don't like it, they can go elsewhere.
Boy, how much dumb can you fit inside one person.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
Why is this seemingly so difficult for you to manage?Quote from: "RW"
OK, Miss Manage...at what point do you draw the line. By your flawed logic, its OK for me to walk naked down the main commercial street, and if the public don't like it, they can go elsewhere.
Boy, how much dumb can you fit inside one person.:crazy:
Is that what's being said? We are talking about a city sanctioned annual EVENT. Stick to the topic or go fuck your hat mmmmkay.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:50:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 07:50:05 PM
The Iraq war was sanctioned by the US Congress. Was THAT right? Are you one of the drones that accept that if a statutory authority deems something legal or acceptable, it is right??
And "city sanctioned" does NOT override laws of public decency, conduct and behaviour IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Kindly do some research.
The fact is that a large number of people who lack the capacity to think will be drawn to any parade that has funny floats, people being stupid, pretty sparkles and noise. It is still not appropriate or in the best interests of the community. And you can add military parades (other than thanking the soldiers) to that list of carnivals we can happily live without.
And just because the mindless think its OK, it is not always OK. OK?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Face it Spec, this is entitled assholery for none other than the sake of it. No one is being harmed yet you have to bitch because deep down homosexuality offends your old school sensibilities.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
YOU know better. I have no issue with what ANYONE does with their genitals, as long as it meets the "no harm" criteria.
I DO have an issue with a specific group promoting and flaunting their lifestyle, without any purpose or reason other than to rub it in MY face. I do not LIKE things being rubbed in my face. I see no reason why gay people feel the need to walk public streets gloating and posturing because they happen to fuck their own gender. On the other hand, I see an example being set, and an image portrayed that is far from reality, and has the potential to influence impressionable young minds at their most vulnerable.
I am fully aware that a lot, if not MOST gays are simple, normal folks who live a simply normal life...and want to be allowed to do so free of discrimination and with access to the same rights as everyone else. I strongly SUPPORT their quest to these ends.
Yet you have yet to tell me what the point and purpose of displaying silly, lurid and sometimes offensive gay messages is on these "parades"?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:47:48 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:47:48 PM
It's not "in your face" unless you go down and attend the event. HAHAHA! DERP.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 08:56:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 08:56:11 PM
We've been over the parade thing many times.Quote from: "RW"
It's not "in your face" unless you go down and attend the event. HAHAHA! DERP.
It is on MY street, and should I choose to walk it, I do NOT need to confront the images, below.
What is their point and purpose? Still waiting for an answer that we BOTH know you cannot give.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
The street does not belong to you. If there is something on a shared street you don't want to see, don't go down it. Freedom of choice my dear.
Now stop being an entitled shit, get a grip and quit whining about something that has ZERO impact on your life.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
So, are you suggesting that conduct such as that displayed in those images are acceptable, reasonable and non-confronting? Would you allow your children to see watch the parade?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:09:03 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:09:03 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
The website is irrelevant. The photos speak for themselves. Unless you think the angry Christians doctored them (although if I were a Christian, I'd have every reason to be pissed at the lampooning of Christians icons such as the crucifixion, gay nuns and priests and religious flagellation).Quote from: "SPECTRE"
So, are you suggesting that conduct such as that displayed in those images are acceptable, reasonable and non-confronting? Would you allow your children to see watch the parade?
I see nothing wrong with those images as per a gay pride parade. Nudity and swear words don't offend me. I would have no issue taking my kids to said parade.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
That conduct outside of a "gay" parade would get someone a fine, at least.
Still waiting for justification for their antics. Take your time. I can wait.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
Again, I inderstand public. I just don't agree that everything that happens in a public place needs to suit everyone all the time. That seems to be a concept you can't grasp.Quote from: "RW"
That's what makes it PUBLIC. Oh my shit how are you not understanding this?! Real slow... public places are public because they are shared by the public. So yes, you DO have to adhere to certain standards of decency and conduct in public. It is fair and reasonable. And the more this concept is failing so many menrally, the more I'm taking a position that this group of people is to irresponsible to have ANY public gatherings.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Churchmilitant.com? ROFL! You're losing it big time there Spec.Quote from: "RW"
The street does not belong to you. If there is something on a shared street you don't want to see, don't go down it. Freedom of choice my dear.
Now stop being an entitled shit, get a grip and quit whining about something that has ZERO impact on your life.
It likewise doesn't belong to the people prancing naked on it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 10:33:50 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 10:33:50 PM
We aren't talking about antics outside of an event.Quote from: "RW"
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
And, what, THIS is right and appropriate too?
Why do you cite other examples of public idiocy as if they justify the whole concept of making an asshole of yourself in public?
Naked bike riding simply identifies Vancouver as lacking any real sense of responsibility and common fucking sense.
What does riding a bike naked represent? TWO dumb festivals do not make ONE right festival. It makes the city look just plain dumb.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 05, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
We aren't talking about antics outside of an event.Quote from: "RW"
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
By the way...you need to visit their Facebook site...
Here, let me help...
See the rainbow?
You're really losing the plot.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:43:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:43:42 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:48:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:48:23 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 10:49:03 PM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 10:49:03 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
They shit down public streets for car racing too. Should I be allowed to walk on the race track because it's a public street?
You don't get to go where ever you want, wherever you want. It's not how reality works. In this case, if you'd like to enjoy a pride parade, you are free to go down to the streets where it's being held. No one will stop you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:51:53 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:51:53 PM
What a joke. Taxation permits one group of mock offended payers to tug on public purse strings when something might happen with other tax payers on a distant street they're not attending because a moral majority is claimed, think of the children! ?#)@!!!&+!, while the self appointed moral majority don't have any issue with homosexuality as long as homosexuals accept that homosexuality is an abomination, an agenda, and never to be celebrated unless it's done in a way palatable to right wing and religious nut jobs which ironically tend to often be the same.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's the ridiculousness I'm reading.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:54:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:54:58 PM
What part of indecent exposure laws are you struggling with? Kids can celebrate Christmas, so they should have sex to! Same thing! Lol. Come on now. And btw.. here in America holiday festivals have to cater to all religions if they are public. Also...yes, you can go anywhere you want in public. That's what makes public public.They have a Christmas parade every year too and those who don't believe in Christmas just don't attend. Is that okay or should the streets be for all religions?Quote from: "RW"
They shit down public streets for car racing too. Should I be allowed to walk on the race track because it's a public street?
You don't get to go where ever you want, wherever you want. It's not how reality works. In this case, if you'd like to enjoy a pride parade, you are free to go down to the streets where it's being held. No one will stop you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
The same applies to straight people.What a joke. Taxation permits one group of mock offended payers to tug on public purse strings when something might happen with other tax payers on a distant street they're not attending because a moral majority is claimed, think of the children! ?#)@!!!&+!, while the self appointed moral majority don't have any issue with homosexuality as long as homosexuals accept that homosexuality is an abomination, an agenda, and never to be celebrated unless it's done in a way palatable to right wing and religious nut jobs which ironically tend to often be the same.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
We aren't talking about antics outside of an event.Quote from: "RW"
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
By the way...you need to visit their Facebook site...
Here, let me help...https://www.facebook.com/YVR.WNBR
See the rainbow?
:001_rolleyes:
You're really losing the plot.
Not all rainbows are "relentlessly gay"
The biking event is for alternative transportation, safe streets and body positivity. It's not to further the gay lifestyle HAHAHA! Gay lifestyle! I'm still laughing over that shit.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:58:57 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 10:58:57 PM
They have a Christmas parade every year too and those who don't believe in Christmas just don't attend. Is that okay or should the streets be for all religions?Quote from: "RW"
They shit down public streets for car racing too. Should I be allowed to walk on the race track because it's a public street?
You don't get to go where ever you want, wherever you want. It's not how reality works. In this case, if you'd like to enjoy a pride parade, you are free to go down to the streets where it's being held. No one will stop you.
What part of "no one is getting arrested ergo no legal fucks are given at that form of expression during said event", are you failing to grasp? It isn't a fuckfest either - it's a PARADE.
My Christmas parade comment is about the occupation of public streets for religious purposes that aren't all inclusive. Are you okay with that or should other religious groups bitch to high heaven because they pay taxes and should be able to walk down a street without seeing a baby Jesus?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:00:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:00:36 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:01:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:01:31 PM
They have a Christmas parade every year too and those who don't believe in Christmas just don't attend. Is that okay or should the streets be for all religions?Quote from: "RW"
They shit down public streets for car racing too. Should I be allowed to walk on the race track because it's a public street?
You don't get to go where ever you want, wherever you want. It's not how reality works. In this case, if you'd like to enjoy a pride parade, you are free to go down to the streets where it's being held. No one will stop you.
What part of "no one is getting arrested ergo no legal fucks are given at that form of expression during said event", are you failing to grasp? It isn't a fuckfest either - it's a PARADE.:oeudC:
My Christmas parade comment is about the occupation of public streets for religious purposes that aren't all inclusive. Are you okay with that or should other religious groups bitch to high heaven because they pay taxes and should be able to walk down a street without seeing a baby Jesus?
They are here.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:03:34 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:03:34 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:08:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:08:55 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:15:02 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:15:02 PM
What? That public holiday festivities are spiritually nuetral? I'm fine with that. It's a public place and not everyone is Christain. I don't believe in forcing my faith in public places. I do believe in sharing it with individuals respectfully, it a mutually consensual way. Jesus didn't teach force.Quote from: "Dove"
How do you feel about people calling for basically an end to public Christmas because they find it religiously offensive?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
That's been going on for years already. That's why publicly and commercially they say "holidays". On a public level, no one says Christmas. How do I feel about it? Doesn't impact my faith in Christ one bit. I celebrate the birth of my savoir with the community of other believers. To a Christain, it's not about decorations and gifts and santa. It's about God invading our dwelling place.What? That public holiday festivities are spiritually nuetral? I'm fine with that. It's a public place and not everyone is Christain. I don't believe in forcing my faith in public places. I do believe in sharing it with individuals respectfully, it a mutually consensual way. Jesus didn't teach force.Quote from: "Dove"
How do you feel about people calling for basically an end to public Christmas because they find it religiously offensive?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:31:40 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:31:40 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:39:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 05, 2015, 11:39:35 PM
YAWN.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 11:40:15 PM
Post by: Frood on July 05, 2015, 11:40:15 PM
So you see, I'm not at all religion phobic because I respect your right to practice but must insist you don't publicly do it anywhere I refuse to go and read. I pay my share of Internet posts every year so demonstrate some respect by praying on Darknet or rent an invite only website for Christiantexuals.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:52:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2015, 11:52:14 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:00:38 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:00:38 AM
Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.
Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
(can you write something and stick to it without constantly editing and revisiting to add more, or just write another post please?)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:01:34 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:01:34 AM
We aren't talking about antics outside of an event.Quote from: "RW"
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
By the way...you need to visit their Facebook site...
Here, let me help...https://www.facebook.com/YVR.WNBR
See the rainbow?
:001_rolleyes:
You're really losing the plot.
Not all rainbows are "relentlessly gay":oeudC:
The biking event is for alternative transportation, safe streets and body positivity. It's not to further the gay lifestyle HAHAHA! Gay lifestyle! I'm still laughing over that shit.
Laugh over this, cupcake.
If NOT gay, why the rainbow?
What has nudity got to do with transport and safe streets?
You keep painting yourself in a corner with rainbow paint.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:04:32 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:04:32 AM
Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:06:14 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:06:14 AM
We aren't talking about antics outside of an event.Quote from: "RW"
In Vancouver, they have an annual NAKED bike rally. No one gets arrested. And it doesn't even promote the gay lifestyle. Hahaha
By the way...you need to visit their Facebook site...
Here, let me help...https://www.facebook.com/YVR.WNBR
See the rainbow?
:001_rolleyes:
You're really losing the plot.
Not all rainbows are "relentlessly gay":oeudC:
The biking event is for alternative transportation, safe streets and body positivity. It's not to further the gay lifestyle HAHAHA! Gay lifestyle! I'm still laughing over that shit.
Laugh over this, cupcake.
If NOT gay, why the rainbow?
What has nudity got to do with transport and safe streets?
You keep painting yourself in a corner with rainbow paint.
I don't know why the rainbow and I'm not going to assume I do know.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:09:20 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:09:20 AM
There is much you don't know, but it does not seem to prevent you arguing.
But we BOTH know why the rainbow, and we both know that riding naked offers no benefit other than to outrage and draw attention to themselves.
Vancouver would seem to be a city run by fools.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:10:18 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:10:18 AM
Damn auto correct. Should have read "non-sectarian" earlier.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Do you shave your pussy?
Sorry...but that question is as relevant to the subject at hand as yours.
Where's my warning, twinkletoes?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:11:07 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:11:07 AM
I also know you've never been to a pride parade.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:11:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:11:58 AM
Yeah....religion and sex is the same. Lol. That's why sex with children is punishable by prison time. Listen, sex is for CONSENTING ADULTS. It's not an average community centered activity that is acceptable on public streets. Now stfu. I'm losing a shit ton of respect for you when you minimize human sexuality to the level of a holiday party or handshake. Apparently you don't understand respect for the views of others. You are coming off as an uncouth, uncivilized animal who doesn't value anything human.Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
(can you write something and stick to it without constantly editing and revisiting to add more, or just write another post please?)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:14:04 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:14:04 AM
And Dove, you don't respect the expression of the views of others. Why should anyone respect yours?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
I truly believe at this point, we could post pics of people all out fucking with children present and they will just deflect and justify. Apparently homosexuals are more important than everyone else, have free reign and privledges that go against our laws and if we don't like it....we are either bigots or need to just go on vacation.Damn auto correct. Should have read "non-sectarian" earlier.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Do you shave your pussy?
Sorry...but that question is as relevant to the subject at hand as yours.
Where's my warning, twinkletoes?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:21:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:21:21 AM
Let's get a few things straight here. And this is the last time I'm going to say it....so if we come back to this AGAIN I'll simply repost this. I DO respect the expression of others. I respect it MORE than you do, because unlike you, I'm respecting more than my chosen group. I did not, at ANY point, say people shouldn't be allowed to have sex/themed parties. I said they are free to do whatever they want in a private venue or after hours. But a public place during the day impacts other people. It's imposing, innapropriate, and a violation of decency laws. Because public places are for the general public. To disregard one group to the exclusion of everyone else is NOT respect. And that's going to be what causes problems. Just watch.It's a PARADE not an ORGY.Quote from: "RW"
And Dove, you don't respect the expression of the views of others. Why should anyone respect yours?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:22:26 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:22:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:23:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:23:15 AM
No its not. A car is not considered a private part. People don't pull up in parking lots and whip thier dicks out. Wtf? And that, is the whole point we are making. Thank you for pointing out that these events are known for public indecency.Bitching about seeing a dick at a gay pride parade is like bitching about seeing a car at the Indy.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
It will only be the problem YOU make it.Quote from: "RW"
Alot of people have problems with this.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:25:01 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:25:01 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
Damn auto correct. Should have read "non-sectarian" earlier.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Do you shave your pussy?
Sorry...but that question is as relevant to the subject at hand as yours.
Where's my warning, twinkletoes?
You weren't present when the photo was taken just mock outraged that it could be taken?
You'll get what you're given when and if I decide to discipline you, Sceptre. Don't beg. It's beneath youth (like logic and acceptance of diversity are)
Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
(can you write something and stick to it without constantly editing and revisiting to add more, or just write another post please?)
Sorry, but I don't wear jesus christ colored glasses so I don't have to abide by what I view as your Judaeo-christian Agenda. I will not as you requested stfu. You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Respect me, don't, it's not a pressing issue for me. Call me uncouth, inhuman, or just plain outright uncivilized all you like. Religion has always persecuted those who refuse to swallow its garbage.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:26:42 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:26:42 AM
Bitching about seeing a dick at a gay pride parade is like bitching about seeing a car at the Indy.Quote from: "RW"
Yes they do. I've seen many people pissing in parking lots haha.
My point remains, if you don't want to chance seeing nudity, don't go to pride - just to be safe.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:29:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:29:43 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:31:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:31:56 AM
and my point remains that if you respected others and the community, these things would be done in a private venue. Or at least when families (equally valued parts of the community) are not out and about. But this isn't about respect. It's about force and attention.Bitching about seeing a dick at a gay pride parade is like bitching about seeing a car at the Indy.Quote from: "RW"
Yes they do. I've seen many people pissing in parking lots haha.
My point remains, if you don't want to chance seeing nudity, don't go to pride - just to be safe.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:32:33 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:32:33 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:33:46 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:33:46 AM
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:37:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:37:15 AM
Sex expression isn't the same as religious expression. This is why if you take a kid to church, you might get sued, MIGHT. Now take a kid to a Sex club and have fun spending life in prison. And while you are there, I can give you the scripture references you are going to need for comfort after a few rounds of female on female rape. Would you rather spend the after noon with a chaplin, or with big betty "expressing" herself freely four fingers deep in the pink and thumb in the stink? See my point yet? Some people consider public Sex displays to be close or equal to sexual assult, and typically our laws agree.Damn auto correct. Should have read "non-sectarian" earlier.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Do you shave your pussy?
Sorry...but that question is as relevant to the subject at hand as yours.
Where's my warning, twinkletoes?
You weren't present when the photo was taken just mock outraged that it could be taken?ac_toofunny
You'll get what you're given when and if I decide to discipline you, Sceptre. Don't beg. It's beneath youth (like logic and acceptance of diversity are)Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
(can you write something and stick to it without constantly editing and revisiting to add more, or just write another post please?)
Sorry, but I don't wear jesus christ colored glasses so I don't have to abide by what I view as your Judaeo-christian Agenda. I will not as you requested stfu. You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Respect me, don't, it's not a pressing issue for me. Call me uncouth, inhuman, or just plain outright uncivilized all you like. Religion has always persecuted those who refuse to swallow its garbage.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:37:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:37:54 AM
Stop. You sound like an idiot.Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:38:38 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:38:38 AM
To hold it in private defeats the purpose.Quote from: "RealMoron"
WHAT IS THE FUCKING PURPOSE THEN???
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:39:02 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:39:02 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
So do you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:40:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:40:08 AM
To force an ideal of no boundaries sexuality. To be in everyone's face with it.You are an abject idiot.Quote from: "SPECTRE"To hold it in private defeats the purpose.Quote from: "RealMoron"
WHAT IS THE FUCKING PURPOSE THEN???
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:40:44 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 12:40:44 AM
Keep it up, cupcake.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:42:37 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:42:37 AM
Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
You sound like someone who puts demands on the behaviors of others because she follows some 2000 year old dead nut with an imaginary father in the sky which has been reinterpreted to mandate social behavior within communities of people who don't even follow such an asinine concept.
Which is more idiotic?
We won't be agreeing on this either.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:43:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:43:15 AM
Because a naked toddler, religious expression and car races is the same as public displays of sexuality. Right. I'll take my idiocy over that mess anyday.Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
So do you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Damn auto correct. Should have read "non-sectarian" earlier.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
You are an idiot.
We live by a code of conduct designed to behave with dignity, courtesy and respect.
How does THIS display courtesy and respect to others...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://static1.demotix.com/sites/defaul%20...%20230598.jpg%22%3Ehttp://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2200-8/photos/1373162153-nude-exposure-during-national-gay-pride-parade-2013-in-madrid_2230598.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
How far away from the photo subject were you when you snapped off a picture of the naked man? I'm assuming you were there when the photo was taken.
Do you shave your pussy?
Sorry...but that question is as relevant to the subject at hand as yours.
Where's my warning, twinkletoes?
You weren't present when the photo was taken just mock outraged that it could be taken?ac_toofunny
You'll get what you're given when and if I decide to discipline you, Sceptre. Don't beg. It's beneath youth (like logic and acceptance of diversity are)Sex is not the same as religious holidays.Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe not for the religious.:laugh: Or race car driving. Bottom line. And how many times do I have to say religious holidays and events are NOT HELD IN PUBLIC? Is there a translator here?!Quote
Is the internet not also public? Plenty of religious people expose themselves on sectarian message boards to others who wish they'd keep it in their spiritual pants where it should belong. Why can't they show some respect by doing it in the privacy of their own non public forums?
(can you write something and stick to it without constantly editing and revisiting to add more, or just write another post please?)
Sorry, but I don't wear jesus christ colored glasses so I don't have to abide by what I view as your Judaeo-christian Agenda. I will not as you requested stfu. You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Respect me, don't, it's not a pressing issue for me. Call me uncouth, inhuman, or just plain outright uncivilized all you like. Religion has always persecuted those who refuse to swallow its garbage.
Your fingers are typing but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot going on up in the top paddock.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:47:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:47:47 AM
Being Christian isn't a pre req to not being pro a day time public parade revolving around gay sex and dick. Get a grip. You keep bringing up Christianity here, and I'm not impressed. If you wish to challange the faith with me, you'll have to do faarrr better than that.Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
You sound like someone who puts demands on the behaviors of others because she follows some 2000 year old dead nut with an imaginary father in the sky which has been reinterpreted to mandate social behavior within communities of people who don't even follow such an asinine concept.
Which is more idiotic?
We won't be agreeing on this either.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
So do you.
Displays of sexuality or sex on display? Pride marches aren't orgies.
Who are you to decide what nudity is or isn't? Who are you to complain about something you're not present to witness? Who are you to drop bible references in this thread and another when some of us find it disrespectful and as revolting as you find
Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
You sound like someone who puts demands on the behaviors of others because she follows some 2000 year old dead nut with an imaginary father in the sky which has been reinterpreted to mandate social behavior within communities of people who don't even follow such an asinine concept.
Which is more idiotic?
We won't be agreeing on this either.
There's nothing in Christianity worth challenging. As far as I see it, Christians really need to visit psychiatrists. Same goes for most of the other religions too.
Anyone who objects to what other consenting adults do and feigns social conscience or moral indignation because it doesn't subscribe to their personal dogma really needs to go find an island and stay there.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
Nobody CARES what they do in their own homes. If gay rights and freedoms are all we had to worry about the world would be a happy place.
What I don't want is PEOPLE walking public streets flaunting their arses, promoting a specific sexuality, and demeaning mine.
Other than that, they can please their fucking selves.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 01:35:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 01:35:58 AM
And the stupid keeps rolling out...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nobody CARES what they do in their own homes. If gay rights and freedoms are all we had to worry about the world would be a happy place.
What I don't want is PEOPLE walking public streets flaunting their arses, promoting a specific sexuality, and demeaning mine.
Other than that, they can please their fucking selves.
The phobia keeps rolling out.
flaunting, promoting,
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 02:19:47 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 02:19:47 AM
I admit, I do suffer from Dumasaphobia. Look it up.
By the way, still waiting for my waaaarrrrrning....
You need to do a little research before you start barking, little doggie.
There are big dogs around, I am told.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:28:08 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:28:08 AM
WOOF
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 02:45:34 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 02:45:34 AM
Go over to the geek subbie and post something there.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:56:25 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:56:25 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 04:00:25 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 04:00:25 AM
Unless you mean kicking your own ass, in which case you have been exemplary.
I remind you AGAIN!!!
Where is the argument that justifies gay parades?
How many times must I ask??
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 05:46:34 AM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 05:46:34 AM
Google it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 07:03:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 07:03:17 AM
Anyone who writes what you wrote in the first paragraph, and then has the utter audacity to write the stuff you wrote in the second one......shouldn't even be allowed to speak. Deal with your OWN personal biases before you whine and cry about the perceived predujice of others. If anyone needs therapy it's people who find acceptable to whip out their junk for the whole city during business hours regardless of who is around, and then put the responsibility on others because they "shouldn't have been out there then" . Grow up.Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
So do you.
Displays of sexuality or sex on display? Pride marches aren't orgies.
Who are you to decide what nudity is or isn't? Who are you to complain about something you're not present to witness? Who are you to drop bible references in this thread and another when some of us find it disrespectful and as revolting as you findsome kindsof nudity in public? Why should anyone listen to anything you've got to say on this topic matter (Pride Marches, remember?)? Don't forget the nappy wearing children who occasionally have their soiled nappies changed on backseats or tailgates of cars and utes in parking lots. They need to go to jail or their parents need to. Young kids at the beach too. Incarcerate the lot!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudity is not acceptable in public, right?:laugh:
You sound like someone who puts demands on the behaviors of others because she follows some 2000 year old dead nut with an imaginary father in the sky which has been reinterpreted to mandate social behavior within communities of people who don't even follow such an asinine concept.
Which is more idiotic?
We won't be agreeing on this either.
There's nothing in Christianity worth challenging. As far as I see it, Christians really need to visit psychiatrists. Same goes for most of the other religions too.
Anyone who objects to what other consenting adults do and feigns social conscience or moral indignation because it doesn't subscribe to their personal dogma really needs to go find an island and stay there.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
There's nothing in Christianity worth challenging. As far as I see it, Christians really need to visit psychiatrists. Same goes for most of the other religions too.
Anyone who objects to what other consenting adults do and feigns social conscience or moral indignation because it doesn't subscribe to their personal dogma really needs to go find an island and stay there.
Is there a REMOTE chance you will actually address the subject at hand?
Or will you just lash out at any issue you think will deflect from your asinine argument.
No..wait..there's your "warnings"...
Ooooooooo....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 10:16:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 10:16:58 AM
Do you even know what a phobia is?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I admit, I do suffer from Dumasaphobia. Look it up.
By the way, still waiting for my waaaarrrrrning....
:swoon:
You need to do a little research before you start barking, little doggie.
There are big dogs around, I am told.
+
There's nothing in Christianity worth challenging. As far as I see it, Christians really need to visit psychiatrists. Same goes for most of the other religions too.
Anyone who objects to what other consenting adults do and feigns social conscience or moral indignation because it doesn't subscribe to their personal dogma really needs to go find an island and stay there.
Is there a REMOTE chance you will actually address the subject at hand?
Or will you just lash out at any issue you think will deflect from your asinine argument.
No..wait..there's your "warnings"...
Ooooooooo....
Your two posts were done 6 hours apart well after my last post (until this one) and they're both absolutely brimming with base anticipation at the prospect of fueling a flamewar which is not going to happen. You're not very good at whatever you think you're trying to do here.
It is with deep regret that I must notify you that your application to be accepted onto the Warning Register has been denied at this time. Do try again.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 10:50:44 AM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 10:50:44 AM
Anyone who writes what you wrote in the first paragraph, and then has the utter audacity to write the stuff you wrote in the second one......shouldn't even be allowed to speak. Deal with your OWN personal biases before you whine and cry about the perceived predujice of others. If anyone needs therapy it's people who find acceptable to whip out their junk for the whole city during business hours regardless of who is around, and then put the responsibility on others because they "shouldn't have been out there then" . Grow up.Quote from: "Dove"
I admit that I have strong opinions about other peoples choices as you do about LGBT public festivities. The difference between you and I however is that I don't expect (scratch that- DEMAND) the world subscribe to my opinions.
People are free to go about their business as they see fit in my world, and if they've sought permission to set aside a small period of time once a year to do their thing in an advertised way as a public good precaution, I'm not self righteous or arrogant enough to expect them to do any different. In all of my life, I have never insisted that parades full of uniformed government employees (basically, thugs) get off the streets because I might want to drive down a boulevard they've applied to march on during their synchronized military or police masturbation waddles.
When motorcades of religion zombies get in my way near a funeral home or church on Saturdays and Sundays, I've always refrained from running them over so they can meet their fairy godfathers on their own terms.
A nipple out and feeding a baby gets no more of a look in than a topless woman sunning on a beach for me and if a man and woman are both not wearing tops, I see it as gender equality between two sets of breasts. I'm not to keen about seeing any of it and particularly with lower genitalia (some people really just have rude bits), but I can cope with it just as my children have been raised to cope with the naked human form.
I don't protest how certain religious holidays permit businesses to shut their doors and refuse service even though I don't celebrate any holidays at all.
Tolerance is my goal.
Now if Gay Pride parades wanted to set up shop near a primary school in session, or a church during a service, that would be intolerant by the LBGT attendees. The fact that they do the opposite and forewarn the public about a central city time frame once a year only is actually pretty tolerant of their detractors like you, Sceptre, and any others.
I think you're not well in the head, Dove, and would benefit from a shrink with some expertise in deprogramming former cult members with upbringing issues. That's just my opinion. Take it or leave it as it's entirely up to you. I'm not forcing anything on you or people like you so we on the other side of the spectrum expect the same from your kind.
RW has reiterated it enough to you. If you don't want to see it, don't attend. Very simple.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:45:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 12:45:05 PM
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That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
Just another day at any beach.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:46:38 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:46:38 PM
Anyone who writes what you wrote in the first paragraph, and then has the utter audacity to write the stuff you wrote in the second one......shouldn't even be allowed to speak. Deal with your OWN personal biases before you whine and cry about the perceived predujice of others. If anyone needs therapy it's people who find acceptable to whip out their junk for the whole city during business hours regardless of who is around, and then put the responsibility on others because they "shouldn't have been out there then" . Grow up.Quote from: "Dove"
I admit that I have strong opinions about other peoples choices as you do about LGBT public festivities. The difference between you and I however is that I don't expect (scratch that- DEMAND) the world subscribe to my opinions.
People are free to go about their business as they see fit in my world, and if they've sought permission to set aside a small period of time once a year to do their thing in an advertised way as a public good precaution, I'm not self righteous or arrogant enough to expect them to do any different. In all of my life, I have never insisted that parades full of uniformed government employees (basically, thugs) get off the streets because I might want to drive down a boulevard they've applied to march on during their synchronized military or police masturbation waddles.
When motorcades of religion zombies get in my way near a funeral home or church on Saturdays and Sundays, I've always refrained from running them over so they can meet their fairy godfathers on their own terms.
A nipple out and feeding a baby gets no more of a look in than a topless woman sunning on a beach for me and if a man and woman are both not wearing tops, I see it as gender equality between two sets of breasts. I'm not to keen about seeing any of it and particularly with lower genitalia (some people really just have rude bits), but I can cope with it just as my children have been raised to cope with the naked human form.
I don't protest how certain religious holidays permit businesses to shut their doors and refuse service even though I don't celebrate any holidays at all.
Tolerance is my goal.
Now if Gay Pride parades wanted to set up shop near a primary school in session, or a church during a service, that would be intolerant by the LBGT attendees. The fact that they do the opposite and forewarn the public about a central city time frame once a year only is actually pretty tolerant of their detractors like you, Sceptre, and any others.
I think you're not well in the head, Dove, and would benefit from a shrink with some expertise in deprogramming former cult members with upbringing issues. That's just my opinion. Take it or leave it as it's entirely up to you. I'm not forcing anything on you or people like you so we on the other side of the spectrum expect the same from your kind.
RW has reiterated it enough to you. If you don't want to see it, don't attend. Very simple.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
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That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
Just another day at any beach.:001_rolleyes:
What beaches are you going to?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 01:46:49 PM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 01:46:49 PM
Anyone who writes what you wrote in the first paragraph, and then has the utter audacity to write the stuff you wrote in the second one......shouldn't even be allowed to speak. Deal with your OWN personal biases before you whine and cry about the perceived predujice of others. If anyone needs therapy it's people who find acceptable to whip out their junk for the whole city during business hours regardless of who is around, and then put the responsibility on others because they "shouldn't have been out there then" . Grow up.Quote from: "Dove"
I admit that I have strong opinions about other peoples choices as you do about LGBT public festivities. The difference between you and I however is that I don't expect (scratch that- DEMAND) the world subscribe to my opinions.
People are free to go about their business as they see fit in my world, and if they've sought permission to set aside a small period of time once a year to do their thing in an advertised way as a public good precaution, I'm not self righteous or arrogant enough to expect them to do any different. In all of my life, I have never insisted that parades full of uniformed government employees (basically, thugs) get off the streets because I might want to drive down a boulevard they've applied to march on during their synchronized military or police masturbation waddles.
When motorcades of religion zombies get in my way near a funeral home or church on Saturdays and Sundays, I've always refrained from running them over so they can meet their fairy godfathers on their own terms.
A nipple out and feeding a baby gets no more of a look in than a topless woman sunning on a beach for me and if a man and woman are both not wearing tops, I see it as gender equality between two sets of breasts. I'm not to keen about seeing any of it and particularly with lower genitalia (some people really just have rude bits), but I can cope with it just as my children have been raised to cope with the naked human form.
I don't protest how certain religious holidays permit businesses to shut their doors and refuse service even though I don't celebrate any holidays at all.
Tolerance is my goal.
Now if Gay Pride parades wanted to set up shop near a primary school in session, or a church during a service, that would be intolerant by the LBGT attendees. The fact that they do the opposite and forewarn the public about a central city time frame once a year only is actually pretty tolerant of their detractors like you, Sceptre, and any others.
I think you're not well in the head, Dove, and would benefit from a shrink with some expertise in deprogramming former cult members with upbringing issues. That's just my opinion. Take it or leave it as it's entirely up to you. I'm not forcing anything on you or people like you so we on the other side of the spectrum expect the same from your kind.
RW has reiterated it enough to you. If you don't want to see it, don't attend. Very simple.
:t1236:
A big hug to you. I'm doing my best to not respond to the flamewar bait. Not saying that I didn't play along for awhile but it got old and real quick.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:31:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 02:31:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 03:11:16 PM
Post by: Frood on July 06, 2015, 03:11:16 PM
Spec is a master baiter so good on you for dodging hahaQuote from: "RW"
I looked his names up and saw a few things on a blog which indicated he's probably less than sincere or trustworthy. It was kind of sad seeing how long he's been playing games like a petulant child but the funny part is how after 6 years, he's still trapped in behaving like a moron.
Maybe he is actually a moron. I don't know and I really don't give a shit. If he can't behave, he's not getting any warnings and he gets the fly swatter.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 05:31:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 05:31:03 PM
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That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
Just another day at any beach.:001_rolleyes:
I have been to Toronto's Caribana and GP parades. It's too bad, but the latter has become a stage for exhibitionists and voyeurs. I think a lot of of both of them are not gay either.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:04:12 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:04:12 PM
Spec is a master baiter so good on you for dodging hahaQuote from: "RW"
I looked his names up and saw a few things on a blog which indicated he's probably less than sincere or trustworthy. It was kind of sad seeing how long he's been playing games like a petulant child but the funny part is how after 6 years, he's still trapped in behaving like a moron.
Maybe he is actually a moron. I don't know and I really don't give a shit. If he can't behave, he's not getting any warnings and he gets the fly swatter.
You seemed to have really done your homework. Even I don't know of things on a blog.
See Spec, I'm not much of a stalker after all.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
I think most people would ask you the same thing.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Wreck beach
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Spec is a master baiter so good on you for dodging hahaQuote from: "RW"
I looked his names up and saw a few things on a blog which indicated he's probably less than sincere or trustworthy. It was kind of sad seeing how long he's been playing games like a petulant child but the funny part is how after 6 years, he's still trapped in behaving like a moron.
Maybe he is actually a moron. I don't know and I really don't give a shit. If he can't behave, he's not getting any warnings and he gets the fly swatter.
Wait...let me get this right...you DON'T want a flamewar?
Yet you research me, judge me, and insult me? Apparently, you seem ignorant of the fact that being untrustworthy is what a FLAMER is all about.
Well, dear...regardless of whatever it is you want, a flamewar is what you're going to get.
Oh, by the way, you may need something a little more robust than a fly swatter.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:37:38 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:37:38 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
They cannot even address the ONE question that will make any sense. Just the same old mooing..."You dont like what we do, so you must be sexist/racist/homophobic (Delete those which do not apply).
It is the SOP for people who's argument is, at the end, constructed on an ideal, rather than reality. They cannot justify the asinine conduct of this particular social group, so, in lieu, they attack those who criticise it.
Such debating tactic is common for people who's vision is narrow, who's mentality is limited, and who's ability to think beyond a single issue is severely impaired.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Most people at pride parades don't whip out their junk. How's that for compromise?Quote from: "RW"
But SOME do?
Is the number important?
What if they all did? Or just 100? Maybe 10. What is the cutoff point between "making a statement" and "acting like a stupid fag"?
That's your problem. You try to apply numerical measures to a standard of general behaviour.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:43:17 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:43:17 PM
Sorry but my argument has been that your unreasonable, being stupid, and acting selfishly. :DQuote from: "RW"
Translation; "I'm out of ideas...and cannot answer your key and fundamental question...because there IS no justification for their parades".
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 06, 2015, 07:44:42 PM
Post by: Romero on July 06, 2015, 07:44:42 PM
(NSFW)Quote from: "SPECTRE"
That is a GAY PRIDE parade.
Now, please post a picture of naked Christians marching through city streets.
Fuck...if it wasn't for me, people would read your crap and think Australians are fucking stupid.
Go ahead...give me a warning...
You're using Spain as an example? In Spain, it's legal for adults to be nude and have sex in public spaces.
Irony: trying to prove that gays flaunt too much by posting a picture of naked people and their genitals.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
If I recall correctly, similar conduct occurred in Vancouver. Here...let me give you some hometown examples...
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:55:19 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 07:55:19 PM
Sorry but my argument has been that your unreasonable, being stupid, and acting selfishly. :DQuote from: "RW"
Translation; "I'm out of ideas...and cannot answer your key and fundamental question...because there IS no justification for their parades".
More like I'm tired of repeating reasonableness in the face of idiocy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:57:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 07:57:44 PM
I guess I missed that part.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me why the image above is reasonable.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:00:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:00:54 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 08:05:46 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 08:05:46 PM
Thats OK, as long as you don't look at it?
A man stands in the window of his first floor apartment while his girlfriend blows him in full view of the street below? No problemo, if you don't look?
Now, aside from blowing THAT argument clear out of the park...I will ask AGAIN, what is the jusitification, point and purpose of their lewd and usually illegal conduct?
Anybody? Bob? Romero? Only I've been asking RW for days now and she cannot answer.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:08:06 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:08:06 PM
I've answered you so many times I've lost count. It seems your fat head can't process logic. We've even gone down the legal route in terms of exceptions which you had no come back for. Face it Spec, you don't have a third leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Your point being?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
If I recall correctly, similar conduct occurred in Vancouver. Here...let me give you some hometown examples...(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.avalancheevents.com/media/toronto-pride-TNT.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.avalancheevents.com/media/to%20...%20de-TNT.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.avalancheevents.com/media/toronto-pride-TNT.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
FYI - this ^^^ is NOT Vancouver.
Vancouver has only ever had one entry that has had male nudity and it was a group promoting foreskin.
The Vancouver Pride Society (the parade people) ask that participants don't go nude as they do not encourage nudity. If people take their clothes off at the start of the parade, there really isn't anything they can do about it aside from not allowing them back in future years, as they have now done with the foreskin guys.
That compromise enough for you?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 09:00:41 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 06, 2015, 09:00:41 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 09:08:47 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 09:08:47 PM
Now who said ignorance was bliss?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 06, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
Post by: Romero on July 06, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
So, a man sits in his car in a busy street full of everyday people and children, and starts jerking off.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Thats OK, as long as you don't look at it?
A man stands in the window of his first floor apartment while his girlfriend blows him in full view of the street below? No problemo, if you don't look?
Now, aside from blowing THAT argument clear out of the park...I will ask AGAIN, what is the jusitification, point and purpose of their lewd and usually illegal conduct?
Anybody? Bob? Romero? Only I've been asking RW for days now and she cannot answer.
There's no masturbation and fellatio at gay pride parades.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 06, 2015, 10:01:52 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 06, 2015, 10:01:52 PM
Are you really refuting our convictions on this matter as though they are irrelevant? Dismissing it as unreasonable? We are not high on drugs. We are not alone in this. We are a large enough group that we can make a difference too if we continue to push back and we will. Try not to attack posters also just because they don't agree with you. That is a low-blow tactic. Stick to the subject matter.
Do you think we will change our views? No. No amount of name calling will. By calling us names because you don't agree with us does not make you more reasonable. To us, we view you as the ones who are unreasonable and selfish. Why is it that just because they are gay they are right? And must get preferential treatment. Why? What makes them so special above the rest of the community? I thought they wanted to be treated equally? This leads me to believe you are sadly midguided. It's not the gays we are against. It is the lewd acts that we wish to be addressed and managed. We also want the hypocrisy and the double standards addressed. More importantly, where are the gays who will stand up against the inappropriate acts? I wish they would step forward.
I cited compromise and ways in which the two sides may agree on. You have not come up with any sound compromise but you seem to be lashing out with contempt. For you all, it's your way or the highway. It does not work that way either. If your way or the highway is allowed to continue then something is not right. Opponents of the lewdness have the right to be heard as well. I'm confident some day we will see changes. I still believe that there are sound men and women out there who are in office or will be in office who may be the difference makers. True tolerance is seeing all sides and coming up with a rational compromise that all can be happy with. Please don't tell us tolerance is your goal and then display your gross intolerance. I don't want to be rude by laughing at that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 11:42:32 PM
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 11:42:32 PM
See how happy the monkey is?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:04:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:04:22 AM
no one said anything about being offended by body parts. That being said, many people are offended by body parts being flung around main street like confetti.How does it affect you Asia? Do you attend these parades and are offended by seeing a penis or breasts?Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
Proponents of the Gay Parade Obscenities:Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Are you really refuting our convictions on this matter as though they are irrelevant? Dismissing it as unreasonable? We are not high on drugs. We are not alone in this. We are a large enough group that we can make a difference too if we continue to push back and we will. Try not to attack posters also just because they don't agree with you. That is a low-blow tactic. Stick to the subject matter.
Do you think we will change our views? No. No amount of name calling will. By calling us names because you don't agree with us does not make you more reasonable. To us, we view you as the ones who are unreasonable and selfish. Why is it that just because they are gay they are right? And must get preferential treatment. Why? What makes them so special above the rest of the community? I thought they wanted to be treated equally? This leads me to believe you are sadly midguided. It's not the gays we are against. It is the lewd acts that we wish to be addressed and managed. We also want the hypocrisy and the double standards addressed. More importantly, where are the gays who will stand up against the inappropriate acts? I wish they would step forward.
I cited compromise and ways in which the two sides may agree on. You have not come up with any sound compromise but you seem to be lashing out with contempt. For you all, it's your way or the highway. It does not work that way either. If your way or the highway is allowed to continue then something is not right. Opponents of the lewdness have the right to be heard as well. I'm confident some day we will see changes. I still believe that there are sound men and women out there who are in office or will be in office who may be the difference makers. True tolerance is seeing all sides and coming up with a rational compromise that all can be happy with. Please don't tell us tolerance is your goal and then display your gross intolerance. I don't want to be rude by laughing at that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:04:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:04:57 AM
Exactly.Proponents of the Gay Parade Obscenities:Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Are you really refuting our convictions on this matter as though they are irrelevant? Dismissing it as unreasonable? We are not high on drugs. We are not alone in this. We are a large enough group that we can make a difference too if we continue to push back and we will. Try not to attack posters also just because they don't agree with you. That is a low-blow tactic. Stick to the subject matter.
Do you think we will change our views? No. No amount of name calling will. By calling us names because you don't agree with us does not make you more reasonable. To us, we view you as the ones who are unreasonable and selfish. Why is it that just because they are gay they are right? And must get preferential treatment. Why? What makes them so special above the rest of the community? I thought they wanted to be treated equally? This leads me to believe you are sadly midguided. It's not the gays we are against. It is the lewd acts that we wish to be addressed and managed. We also want the hypocrisy and the double standards addressed. More importantly, where are the gays who will stand up against the inappropriate acts? I wish they would step forward.
I cited compromise and ways in which the two sides may agree on. You have not come up with any sound compromise but you seem to be lashing out with contempt. For you all, it's your way or the highway. It does not work that way either. If your way or the highway is allowed to continue then something is not right. Opponents of the lewdness have the right to be heard as well. I'm confident some day we will see changes. I still believe that there are sound men and women out there who are in office or will be in office who may be the difference makers. True tolerance is seeing all sides and coming up with a rational compromise that all can be happy with. Please don't tell us tolerance is your goal and then display your gross intolerance. I don't want to be rude by laughing at that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:09:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:09:35 AM
Thank you linesmen, thank you ballboys.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
I know that war is wrong. I don't have to go fight in one to confirm my views.
Public lewdness is unacceptable, and not indicative of a civilised and advanced country...nor a third world one, for that matter. You either have your head stuck in the sand, or simply fail to grasp that their conduct serves NO purpose but to shock and offend. You have NOT at any time validated their conduct as sensible, reasonable or even purposeful. They are acting like crude, immoral and juvenile assholes for no reason BUT to challenge the sensibilities of onlookers.
Its bullshit, and you know it. If you condone it...or take your children to watch it...you are equally irresponsible and disrespectful.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:23:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:23:44 AM
Trouble is there is no intolerance to your point of view. Its saying if you have an issue with a pride parade, don't attend one. No harm. No foul. Simple compromise.Quote from: "RW"
How about if you have a gay pride parade, keep it clean until families are off the streets. No harm. No foul. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:24:00 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:24:00 AM
Take Vancouver for example. Gay Pride had one foreskin awareness naked group and you guys shit. It has a naked bike ride and not a fricken word. Why is that? Explain THAT to me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:24:35 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:24:35 AM
Trouble is there is no intolerance to your point of view. Its saying if you have an issue with a pride parade, don't attend one. No harm. No foul. Simple compromise.Quote from: "RW"
How about if you have a gay pride parade, keep it clean until families are off the streets. No harm. No foul. Simple as that.
Who sets the the standard for "lewd" conduct?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:28:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:28:38 AM
Is this seriously a question?! The public did. Our governments did. Self respecting grown ups and the family units that are so vital to our communities did.Trouble is there is no intolerance to your point of view. Its saying if you have an issue with a pride parade, don't attend one. No harm. No foul. Simple compromise.Quote from: "RW"
How about if you have a gay pride parade, keep it clean until families are off the streets. No harm. No foul. Simple as that.
Who sets the the standard for "lewd" conduct?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:29:04 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:29:04 AM
At least in our civilised country.
How about yours?
Oh, and in regards to your naked bike ride (upon which I commented and referenced its gay connotations) and other equally empty headed public endeavours...I DON'T LIVE IN CANADA. How would I know what the fuck you clowns get up to???
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:30:18 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:30:18 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
Parliament. And the Courts.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
At least in our civilised country.
How about yours?
Oh, and in regards to your naked bike ride (upon which I commented and referenced its gay connotations) and other equally empty headed public endeavours...I DON'T LIVE IN CANADA. How would I know what the fuck you clowns get up to???
It's a world wide event which I informed you of earlier today ya meat head :P
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:42:00 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:42:00 AM
That proposition is simply illogical.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:46:31 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:46:31 AM
Either way, that fact that I do not partake of a certain event does NOT preclude me from judgment and voicing an opinion.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
That proposition is simply illogical.
I know. I know. Opinions are like assholes.
The fact that you can be offended by an event you do not and would not partake in is what gets me. Only those who wish to be a part of the festivities participate. They are the ones who don't have an issue with the odd naked body to promote foreskins.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:48:14 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 12:48:14 AM
Where is that written?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:50:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 12:50:53 AM
Maybe some people would otherwise partake.Either way, that fact that I do not partake of a certain event does NOT preclude me from judgment and voicing an opinion.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
That proposition is simply illogical.
I know. I know. Opinions are like assholes.
The fact that you can be offended by an event you do not and would not partake in is what gets me. Only those who wish to be a part of the festivities participate. They are the ones who don't have an issue with the odd naked body to promote foreskins.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:59:55 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:59:55 AM
You keep citing participation as a pre-requisite to objection.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Where is that written?
That's the solution to your objection. DUH!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 01:00:58 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 01:00:58 AM
Either way, that fact that I do not partake of a certain event does NOT preclude me from judgment and voicing an opinion.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
That proposition is simply illogical.
I know. I know. Opinions are like assholes.
The fact that you can be offended by an event you do not and would not partake in is what gets me. Only those who wish to be a part of the festivities participate. They are the ones who don't have an issue with the odd naked body to promote foreskins.
And maybe organizers listen to that and don't allow nudity in the parades as much as they can prevent it. They do in Vancouver.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 03:47:07 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 03:47:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 03:58:26 AM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 03:58:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 04:13:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 04:13:42 AM
Aannddd we are in agreement on something. LolHouse is hot.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 07, 2015, 07:02:20 AM
Post by: keeper on July 07, 2015, 07:02:20 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 07, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
Post by: Frood on July 07, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
I am bored by this discussion.Quote from: "SPECTRE"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://heresyandheroes.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/6a0120a95a88d5970b019aff5d568e970c-800wi.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://heresyandheroes.files.wordpress%20...%20-800wi.gif%22%3Ehttps://heresyandheroes.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/6a0120a95a88d5970b019aff5d568e970c-800wi.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
House is hot.Quote from: "RW"
Me too. We have to stop agreeing with each other. People might talk.
House is hot.Quote from: "RW"
Hugh Laurie is a fine specimen of an older man up there with the likes of Sean Connery in his day.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:50:44 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 12:50:44 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 07, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
Post by: Frood on July 07, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:20:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:20:34 PM
So, a man sits in his car in a busy street full of everyday people and children, and starts jerking off.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Thats OK, as long as you don't look at it?
A man stands in the window of his first floor apartment while his girlfriend blows him in full view of the street below? No problemo, if you don't look?
Now, aside from blowing THAT argument clear out of the park...I will ask AGAIN, what is the jusitification, point and purpose of their lewd and usually illegal conduct?
Anybody? Bob? Romero? Only I've been asking RW for days now and she cannot answer.
There's no masturbation and fellatio at gay pride parades.
Do you feel this is fine for day time hours on city streets
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
You're wrong Spec. I have made those points. YOU just don't listen. You don't seek out answers to your own questions or accept or acknowledge the answers.Quote from: "RW"
Take Vancouver for example. Gay Pride had one foreskin awareness naked group and you guys shit. It has a naked bike ride and not a fricken word. Why is that? Explain THAT to me.
It's quite simple really. The naked bikers are on their bikes and they are simply biking by although I am also not a fan of that event. Even though I may try to understand, I don't agree with people who do things to shock their fellow men. Why? Now, the exhibitionists in gay pride parades are simulating sodomy. A vulnerable young boy or girl may see that and believe, "Oh, I guess it's okay to let Uncle Richard's peepee in my mouth." or "I guess it's normal to let Uncle Richard put his peepee in my butt but I'll still promise not to tell." There. Nice, ain't it? The internet allows us to be voyeurs if we want to be. Go on the internet then. These acts are not necessary on our streets.
Anyway, I am bored now with this topic as well.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:33:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:33:33 PM
During a gay pride parade, I think it's okay. Otherwise, no.Quote from: "RW"
So anything is permitted at gay pride?
Why?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:43:22 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:43:22 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:43:59 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 09:43:59 PM
You're wrong Spec. I have made those points. YOU just don't listen. You don't seek out answers to your own questions or accept or acknowledge the answers.Quote from: "RW"
Take Vancouver for example. Gay Pride had one foreskin awareness naked group and you guys shit. It has a naked bike ride and not a fricken word. Why is that? Explain THAT to me.
It's quite simple really. The naked bikers are on their bikes and they are simply biking by although I am also not a fan of that event. Even though I may try to understand, I don't agree with people who do things to shock their fellow men. Why? Now, the exhibitionists in gay pride parades are simulating sodomy. A vulnerable young boy or girl may see that and believe, "Oh, I guess it's okay to let Uncle Richard's peepee in my mouth." or "I guess it's normal to let Uncle Richard put his peepee in my butt but I'll still promise not to tell." There. Nice, ain't it? The internet allows us to be voyeurs if we want to be. Go on the internet then. These acts are not necessary on our streets.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2012/06/columbus.jpeg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/20%20...%20umbus.jpeg%22%3Ehttp://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2012/06/columbus.jpeg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Anyway, I am bored now with this topic as well.ac_boring
Is it shocking if you aren't there to be shocked by it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:57:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:57:08 PM
You're wrong Spec. I have made those points. YOU just don't listen. You don't seek out answers to your own questions or accept or acknowledge the answers.Quote from: "RW"
Take Vancouver for example. Gay Pride had one foreskin awareness naked group and you guys shit. It has a naked bike ride and not a fricken word. Why is that? Explain THAT to me.
It's quite simple really. The naked bikers are on their bikes and they are simply biking by although I am also not a fan of that event. Even though I may try to understand, I don't agree with people who do things to shock their fellow men. Why? Now, the exhibitionists in gay pride parades are simulating sodomy. A vulnerable young boy or girl may see that and believe, "Oh, I guess it's okay to let Uncle Richard's peepee in my mouth." or "I guess it's normal to let Uncle Richard put his peepee in my butt but I'll still promise not to tell." There. Nice, ain't it? The internet allows us to be voyeurs if we want to be. Go on the internet then. These acts are not necessary on our streets.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2012/06/columbus.jpeg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/20%20...%20umbus.jpeg%22%3Ehttp://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2012/06/columbus.jpeg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Anyway, I am bored now with this topic as well.ac_boring
That has no place on city streets during the day.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
No but I don't think nudity is a big deal at a pride parade.Quote from: "RW"
They should change the name to lewd and nude parade..
Then restrict viewing to those 18 and over.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 09:59:41 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 09:59:41 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 10:05:06 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 10:05:06 PM
I'm not shocked. I'm incensed at the disrespect.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Disrespect that is not intended and you never have to see unless you actively seek it out?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Do you feel this is fine for day time hours on city streetsQuote from: "Fashionista"
No, I don't think some nudity at a gay pride parade is a big deal. People choose to go. People including children aren't harmed by it.
Let's compare it to some things that most kids and teens encounter on a daily basis. Sex and violence in tv, movies and videos. Teen/fashion mags and advertisements showing that only thin is beautiful. Peer/society pressure into having sex. Tell mom you want McDonald's so you can get a toy!
Then there are the really serious problems kids have to deal with way too much. Bullying, depression, abuse, sexual assault and harassment...
We are all naked underneath and it's really nothing to be ashamed of. The rare full nudity at a gay pride parade is actually trying to promote a positive sense of ourselves, unlike the negative examples of sex and nudity kids often encounter in mainstream society.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:41:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:41:15 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:42:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:42:47 PM
Do you feel this is fine for day time hours on city streetsQuote from: "Fashionista"
No, I don't think some nudity at a gay pride parade is a big deal. People choose to go. People including children aren't harmed by it.
Let's compare it to some things that most kids and teens encounter on a daily basis. Sex and violence in tv, movies and videos. Teen/fashion mags and advertisements showing that only thin is beautiful. Peer/society pressure into having sex. Tell mom you want McDonald's so you can get a toy!
Then there are the really serious problems kids have to deal with way too much. Bullying, depression, abuse, sexual assault and harassment...
We are all naked underneath and it's really nothing to be ashamed of. The rare full nudity at a gay pride parade is actually trying to promote a positive sense of ourselves, unlike the negative examples of sex and nudity kids often encounter in mainstream society.
It's funny you mention movies because if the same things that were shown in movies that occur at gay pride the movies would be restricted to those 18 and over..
Why the double standard for gay pride?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
exactly.Do you feel this is fine for day time hours on city streetsQuote from: "Fashionista"
No, I don't think some nudity at a gay pride parade is a big deal. People choose to go. People including children aren't harmed by it.
Let's compare it to some things that most kids and teens encounter on a daily basis. Sex and violence in tv, movies and videos. Teen/fashion mags and advertisements showing that only thin is beautiful. Peer/society pressure into having sex. Tell mom you want McDonald's so you can get a toy!
Then there are the really serious problems kids have to deal with way too much. Bullying, depression, abuse, sexual assault and harassment...
We are all naked underneath and it's really nothing to be ashamed of. The rare full nudity at a gay pride parade is actually trying to promote a positive sense of ourselves, unlike the negative examples of sex and nudity kids often encounter in mainstream society.
It's funny you mention movies because if the same things that were shown in movies that occur at gay pride the movies would be restricted to those 18 and over..
Why the double standard for gay pride?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:45:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:45:42 PM
It makes them look like utter trash. People who have zero sense of self respect or value for their bodies and sex. It's just another way to market and prostitute human beings. Positive? I asked my kids what they thought of this. They find it disgusting and would want to move if people started doing that in our nieghborhood. I'm secure with my sexuality. And it is a positive thing. I have no desire to abuse myself by flinging it all over the city like it's no different or special than a handshake. Thank you for pointing out everything wrong with the world that led us into this no boundaries, whip out the dick in front of kids mentality. They have it hard enough. This is the same exploitation and abuse of sex you hear in music and all that cap you just listed. It does NOT promote any sort of healthy view of intimacy. It supports promiscuity and self deprecuation. Every single one of those people doing that no doubt has serious depression issues. Maybe a few suicide attempts.Quote from: "Dove"
I fail to see what the lewd and lascivious has to do with pride in being gay?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
The theme of the video is basically if you're a cool guy, sexy women will be all over you and want to have sex with you. If you're a cool girl, you'll want to fawn all over and have sex with Mr. Cool Guy.
The song has come under a lot of criticism because it's actually kind of misogynist and rapey.
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky,
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Promoting the straight lifestyle? Should a young person be shown naked rapey videos? Because they can already see them any time and they have.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Each group has a purpose in a parade. The one nude group in Vancouver was about foreskin awareness. That is a sexual health issue. You are looking at things out of context and passing judgement.
There will always be those who get carried away in a moment and you pass them off as EXCEPTIONS. You guys are fixating on pictures from pride parades all over the world - all of which have varying standards in terms of what is lewd and lascivious. In Vancouver for example, there was ONE group that marched nude out of 120 entries. Does that tell you something?
My biggest issue in this debate is self autonomy. It's this need to change something that doesn't affect you personally if you don't attend the event. It can't offend you if you don't look at it. Why do you feel it's okay for you to dictate what the rest of us see?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:07:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:07:17 PM
Here's an excellent example - the song and video for Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke. It was a huge hit, and the video has been watched hundreds of thousands of times. The version where the women are almost completely naked has been watched hundreds of thousands of times.Quote from: "Romero"
The theme of the video is basically if you're a cool guy, sexy women will be all over you and want to have sex with you. If you're a cool girl, you'll want to fawn all over and have sex with Mr. Cool Guy.
The song has come under a lot of criticism because it's actually kind of misogynist and rapey.Ok, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky,
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Promoting the straight lifestyle? Should a young person be shown naked rapey videos? Because they can already see them any time and they have.
I don't know, but why is that one must be over 18 to see nude dancers on a stage, but no age restriction at gay pride?
What does the nudity have to do with pride in being gay anyway?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:07:59 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:07:59 PM
Here's an excellent example - the song and video for Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke. It was a huge hit, and the video has been watched hundreds of thousands of times. The version where the women are almost completely naked has been watched hundreds of thousands of times.Quote from: "Romero"
The theme of the video is basically if you're a cool guy, sexy women will be all over you and want to have sex with you. If you're a cool girl, you'll want to fawn all over and have sex with Mr. Cool Guy.
The song has come under a lot of criticism because it's actually kind of misogynist and rapey.Ok, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky,
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Promoting the straight lifestyle? Should a young person be shown naked rapey videos? Because they can already see them any time and they have.
The rap part about tearing one's ass in two is particularly special.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 11:08:31 PM
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 11:08:31 PM
It's funny you mention movies because if the same things that were shown in movies that occur at gay pride the movies would be restricted to those 18 and over..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Why the double standard for gay pride?
I don't believe the positive sense of nudity that may occur at gay pride is the same as the often negative sense of nudity as portrayed by the media. Nudists aren't ashamed of their nudity, but the mainstream regularly uses sex and nudity to sell and entice.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Here's an excellent example - the song and video for Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke. It was a huge hit, and the video has been watched hundreds of thousands of times. The version where the women are almost completely naked has been watched hundreds of thousands of times.Quote from: "Romero"
The theme of the video is basically if you're a cool guy, sexy women will be all over you and want to have sex with you. If you're a cool girl, you'll want to fawn all over and have sex with Mr. Cool Guy.
The song has come under a lot of criticism because it's actually kind of misogynist and rapey.Ok, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky,
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Promoting the straight lifestyle? Should a young person be shown naked rapey videos? Because they can already see them any time and they have.
I don't know, but why is that one must be over 18 to see nude dancers on a stage, but no age restriction at gay pride?
What does the nudity have to do with pride in being gay anyway?
The same reason you don't have to be 18 to see the statue of David.
Erotic dancers are there to sexually excite. Naked men in pride parades, not so much.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 11:31:13 PM
Post by: Romero on July 07, 2015, 11:31:13 PM
I fail to see what the lewd and lascivious has to do with pride in being gay?Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_dunno
So many LGBTQs for so long have been discriminated against based solely on their sexual orientation. When many heterosexuals see homosexuals in love, maybe just walking hand in hand like the rest of us do, the first thing that comes to their mind is "they have sex together?".
Too often, people don't see that gays are just doing what the rest of us are doing. Falling in love and having sex. But those against gays only see the sex. Not the love.
It took this long just for gays to be allowed to get married. Why? Because so many of us were too freaked out about the idea that they would have sex with each other.
So, sometimes they're going to protest against that kind of thinking. Straights are allowed to exude all the sexuality they want, so why can't they just one time?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
I'm not okay with promoting sex to children period. Just to be clear on that. For the 100th time. We are aware that you can't take five steps into the world without being mentally or visually raped. That doesn't mean its okay to tear down what remaining boundaries we have. We does this stop, btw? When everyone is allowed to fuck children if it's "consensual" and "positive"?Here's an excellent example - the song and video for Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke. It was a huge hit, and the video has been watched hundreds of thousands of times. The version where the women are almost completely naked has been watched hundreds of thousands of times.Quote from: "Romero"
The theme of the video is basically if you're a cool guy, sexy women will be all over you and want to have sex with you. If you're a cool girl, you'll want to fawn all over and have sex with Mr. Cool Guy.
The song has come under a lot of criticism because it's actually kind of misogynist and rapey.Ok, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky,
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Promoting the straight lifestyle? Should a young person be shown naked rapey videos? Because they can already see them any time and they have.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:39:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:39:23 PM
Really this sort of thing is ONLY reinforcing the idea that homosexuality is nothing more than sexual perversion because that is exactly this shows. I'm being honest when I say that because of stuff like that, many people...even other homosexuals...have lost respect and the will to support the community.I fail to see what the lewd and lascivious has to do with pride in being gay?Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_dunno
So many LGBTQs for so long have been discriminated against based solely on their sexual orientation. When many heterosexuals see homosexuals in love, maybe just walking hand in hand like the rest of us do, the first thing that comes to their mind is "they have sex together?".
Too often, people don't see that gays are just doing what the rest of us are doing. Falling in love and having sex. But those against gays only see the sex. Not the love.
It took this long just for gays to be allowed to get married. Why? Because so many of us were too freaked out about the idea that they would have sex with each other.
So, sometimes they're going to protest against that kind of thinking. Straights are allowed to exude all the sexuality they want, so why can't they just one time?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
You must be seriously baked if you think allowing people to march down streets naked will give way to allowing people to have sex with children. That is deranged.
If you don't want YOUR kids to see it, don't take them to it. Why is this so hard for you to compute?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:55:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:55:06 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:55:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:55:27 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:58:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 11:58:28 PM
I fail to see what the lewd and lascivious has to do with pride in being gay?Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_dunno
So many LGBTQs for so long have been discriminated against based solely on their sexual orientation. When many heterosexuals see homosexuals in love, maybe just walking hand in hand like the rest of us do, the first thing that comes to their mind is "they have sex together?".
Too often, people don't see that gays are just doing what the rest of us are doing. Falling in love and having sex. But those against gays only see the sex. Not the love.
It took this long just for gays to be allowed to get married. Why? Because so many of us were too freaked out about the idea that they would have sex with each other.
So, sometimes they're going to protest against that kind of thinking. Straights are allowed to exude all the sexuality they want, so why can't they just one time?
So the lewd and nude part of the parades is because gay sex has traditionally been subject to legal discrimination?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:01:22 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:01:22 AM
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:02:02 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:02:02 AM
I fail to see what the lewd and lascivious has to do with pride in being gay?Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_dunno
So many LGBTQs for so long have been discriminated against based solely on their sexual orientation. When many heterosexuals see homosexuals in love, maybe just walking hand in hand like the rest of us do, the first thing that comes to their mind is "they have sex together?".
Too often, people don't see that gays are just doing what the rest of us are doing. Falling in love and having sex. But those against gays only see the sex. Not the love.
It took this long just for gays to be allowed to get married. Why? Because so many of us were too freaked out about the idea that they would have sex with each other.
So, sometimes they're going to protest against that kind of thinking. Straights are allowed to exude all the sexuality they want, so why can't they just one time?
So the lewd and nude part of the parades is because gay sex has traditionally been subject to legal discrimination?
:confused1:
I told you - in these pictures you are missing the context for these group.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
I'm not okay with promoting sex to children period. Just to be clear on that. For the 100th time. We are aware that you can't take five steps into the world without being mentally or visually raped. That doesn't mean its okay to tear down what remaining boundaries we have. We does this stop, btw? When everyone is allowed to fuck children if it's "consensual" and "positive"?Quote from: "Dove"
Just look at what you're saying. Gay pride is nothing about allowing people to fuck children. You have to realize that you're the one having these sick thoughts, not them.
Hmm, who is actually claiming that sexually abusing children is "consensual" and "positive"? Not gay pride - but pedophiles, most often family members, and apparently quite a few in the Catholic Church.
Ever hear of a gay pride parade sexually abusing children? No? Well, plenty of straights have done it.
The real issues. Too many children have been abused in too many ways. It's never been from some gay pride parade.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:05:28 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:05:28 AM
I'm not okay with promoting sex to children period. Just to be clear on that. For the 100th time. We are aware that you can't take five steps into the world without being mentally or visually raped. That doesn't mean its okay to tear down what remaining boundaries we have. We does this stop, btw? When everyone is allowed to fuck children if it's "consensual" and "positive"?Quote from: "Dove"
Just look at what you're saying. Gay pride is nothing about allowing people to fuck children. You have to realize that you're the one having these sick thoughts, not them.
Hmm, who is actually claiming that sexually abusing children is "consensual" and "positive"? Not gay pride - but pedophiles, most often family members, and apparently plenty in the Catholic Church.
Ever hear of a gay pride parade sexually abusing children? No? Well, plenty of straights have done it.
The real issues. Too many children have been abused in too many ways. It's never been from some gay pride parade.
Well said.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 12:06:20 AM
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 12:06:20 AM
Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:06:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:06:49 AM
I'm not dictating who sees what. I'm pointing out a compromise. Hetrosexuals and gays alike have been enjoying sexual displays for years in private venues. Why does this group get to be so special that THEY dictate everyone's day? Ever think there are reasons WHY the pedo card gets played?Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:07:48 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:07:48 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:08:31 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:08:31 AM
I'm not okay with promoting sex to children period. Just to be clear on that. For the 100th time. We are aware that you can't take five steps into the world without being mentally or visually raped. That doesn't mean its okay to tear down what remaining boundaries we have. We does this stop, btw? When everyone is allowed to fuck children if it's "consensual" and "positive"?Quote from: "Dove"
Just look at what you're saying. Gay pride is nothing about allowing people to fuck children. You have to realize that you're the one having these sick thoughts, not them.
Hmm, who is actually claiming that sexually abusing children is "consensual" and "positive"? Not gay pride - but pedophiles, most often family members, and apparently plenty in the Catholic Church.
Ever hear of a gay pride parade sexually abusing children? No? Well, plenty of straights have done it.
The real issues. Too many children have been abused in too many ways. It's never been from some gay pride parade.
Well said.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:09:05 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:09:05 AM
Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Actually you need to look at what I'm saying. You are not responding to what I said. You are responding to what you think I'm saying.I'm not okay with promoting sex to children period. Just to be clear on that. For the 100th time. We are aware that you can't take five steps into the world without being mentally or visually raped. That doesn't mean its okay to tear down what remaining boundaries we have. We does this stop, btw? When everyone is allowed to fuck children if it's "consensual" and "positive"?Quote from: "Dove"
Just look at what you're saying. Gay pride is nothing about allowing people to fuck children. You have to realize that you're the one having these sick thoughts, not them.
Hmm, who is actually claiming that sexually abusing children is "consensual" and "positive"? Not gay pride - but pedophiles, most often family members, and apparently quite a few in the Catholic Church alone.
Ever hear of a gay pride parade sexually abusing children? No? Well, plenty of straights have done it.
The real issues. Too many children have been abused in too many ways. It's never been from some gay pride parade.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:10:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:10:37 AM
we know how to have parades without taking off our clothes and simulating sex acts.Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
:crazy:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:11:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:11:42 AM
Are you saying the lgbt community is not a supporter of nambla?The reason the pedo card gets played is sheer stupidity. Period.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:16:01 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:16:01 AM
Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
:crazy:
You also know how to keep gays out of your congregations. You should be so damn proud.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:16:35 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:16:35 AM
Actually you need to look at what I'm saying. You are not responding to what I said. You are responding to what you think I'm saying.Quote from: "Dove"
I was agreeing with you until you thought gay pride might lead to all of us raping children.
Boundaries have already been crossed in heterosexual world. Het's are abusing children right at this very moment. Gay pride is not.
You spoke of your own experiences. Were they caused by gay pride?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:17:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:17:07 AM
my outreach mission currently houses 6 homosexuals and employs 2.Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.[/quote
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
:crazy:
You also know how to keep gays out of your congregations. You should be so damn proud.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:18:07 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:18:07 AM
The reason the pedo card gets played is sheer stupidity. Period.Quote from: "RW"
It isn't. DERP!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.[/quote
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
:crazy:
You also know how to keep gays out of your congregations. You should be so damn proud.
Sorry, are you saying the church's stance on homosexuality has changed?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
What it is "the church" you speak of? The man made heretic mess that is the RC... or what Christ defined in the bible? Because I'm organic. According to Christ, a saved believer is in dwelt by the Spirit and IS the church.Right. Whenever we talk about gays, someone has to play the pedo card. Please Dove, put away the cliche and unlinked bullshit and get a grip.Quote from: "RW"
I want to know if you think you are so damn special that you get to dictate who sees what in life.[/quote
People of faith tend to do that sort of thing.
I know. They have no problems with their Christmas parades taking up the streets much to the chagrin of others but gays doing it? Oh hell no!
:crazy:
You also know how to keep gays out of your congregations. You should be so damn proud.
Sorry, are you the church's stance on homosexuality has changed?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:22:32 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:22:32 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:23:57 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:24:33 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:24:33 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:33:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:33:37 AM
Well catholics fancy themselves as "the" church. So I assumed you meant them. What do you believe the scriptural and church stance on homosexuality is?Quote from: "Dove"
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Are you a Christian Dove?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:37:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:37:18 AM
Yes. Let's not forget speaking truth in love. The homosexuals at our mission struggle with sexual sin just like all of us.Well catholics fancy themselves as "the" church. So I assumed you meant them. What do you believe the scriptural and church stance on homosexuality is?Quote from: "Dove"
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Are you a Christian Dove?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
These countless travesties have never once been caused by gay pride.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:40:49 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:40:49 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:44:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:44:30 AM
Because you haven't seen yourself a sinner.I don't struggle with sexual sin.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 12:44:53 AM
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 12:44:53 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:45:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:45:17 AM
Why are stuck on something that no one is disputing?Countless millions of children have been victims of violence, domestic violence, sexual abuse, mental abuse, war, hunger, slavery and sex slavery. Millions of children are having to deal with it right now.Quote from: "Romero"
These countless travesties have never once been caused by gay pride.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:49:25 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:49:25 AM
I don't struggle with sexual sin.Quote from: "RW"
I went to Catholic school. I know all about being a sinner. I just got over that crap.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:52:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:52:29 AM
Well catholics fancy themselves as "the" church. So I assumed you meant them. What do you believe the scriptural and church stance on homosexuality is?Quote from: "Dove"
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Are you a Christian Dove?Let's not forget speaking truth in love. The homosexuals at our mission struggle with sexual sin just like all of us.
Absolutely Dove.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:53:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:53:20 AM
Catholic school puts emphasis on religion and salvation by works. Seeing yourself a sinner is a moment of clarity and grace in a detox center. Or the prostitute weeping at the feet of Christ. It's being in the presence of a holy and pure God and understanding how corrupt we truly are. It cannot be taught, it cannot be forced.I don't struggle with sexual sin.Quote from: "RW"
I went to Catholic school. I know all about being a sinner. I just got over that crap.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:55:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:55:08 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Well catholics fancy themselves as "the" church. So I assumed you meant them. What do you believe the scriptural and church stance on homosexuality is?Quote from: "Dove"
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Are you a Christian Dove?Let's not forget speaking truth in love. The homosexuals at our mission struggle with sexual sin just like all of us.
Absolutely Dove.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
I don't struggle with sexual sin.Quote from: "RW"
I went to Catholic school. I know all about being a sinner. I just got over that crap.
Romans 3:23-24, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:58:48 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 12:58:48 AM
I'm glad you had that epiphany Dove. I'm sure it has been for the better in your life.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:59:21 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 12:59:21 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
Well catholics fancy themselves as "the" church. So I assumed you meant them. What do you believe the scriptural and church stance on homosexuality is?Quote from: "Dove"
Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Are you a Christian Dove?Let's not forget speaking truth in love. The homosexuals at our mission struggle with sexual sin just like all of us.
Absolutely Dove.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Our church does not relentlessly condemn gays who get married, but we still oppose it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 01:01:39 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 01:01:39 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:03:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:03:01 AM
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin......Romans 7:21 until the end verse. For Fash.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:04:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:04:23 AM
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:06:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:06:29 AM
Oh, it's what the rest of us call hitting rock bottom and finding God.Quote from: "RW"
I'm glad you had that epiphany Dove. I'm sure it has been for the better in your life.
I've had epiphanies and been on rock bottom. Seeing yourself ad you are... is far deeper, and traumatic. You are never the same after that. That being said, thank you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:14:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:14:25 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
agreed
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 01:16:08 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 01:16:08 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:20:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:20:45 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:21:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:21:09 AM
Do you have gay members of your church?Quote from: "RW"
I cannot say for sure that some members have never been in a same sex relationship in the past..
I can say though that nobody in our church has proclaimed to be gay and non abstaining.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:24:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:24:19 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
Yes, the bible says homosexuality is sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:25:13 AM
God says homosexuality is a sin. So is fornication. Adultry. Christ used the word "pornea". Which is all sex outside of God's designed parameters of marriage.I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 08, 2015, 01:33:43 AM
Post by: J0E on July 08, 2015, 01:33:43 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
agreed
Well if that be the case, how can a follower achieve salvation in Christianity?
That's the whole idea behind, just like Jesus dying on the cross for everyones sins so that the can be reborn, isn't it?
One of its core principles is that we are all sinners, and those who wish to become Christians must admit this in order to be absolved of them. Its not as if its supposed to be a free ride.
All the passages in the Bible which pertain to Chistianity condemn, not condone it.
Therefore a person cannot in unholy acts of sodomy and then simultaneously expect to enter the Kingdom of God.
And the only way for those individuals who subscribe to this lifestyle can avoid eternal hell in the afterlife is to renounce homosexuality altogether. Interestingly, the Bible does not condemn lesbians, but male homosexuality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:35:00 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:35:00 AM
Yes, the bible says homosexuality is sin.Quote from: "Fashionista"
I believe the Bible says we are all created in God's image, we are all equally born into sin, love thy neighbour, and Jesus loves us unconditionally.
There are a few verses in the Bible that can be interpreted to be against homosexuality.
But there are many more verses in the Bible saying there is more than enough sin within heterosexuality.
Heterosexual polygamy, affairs, sex, slavery, rape... homosexual stuff is barely even mentioned. According to the Bible, heterosexuals are much more likely to sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:36:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:36:44 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
Pornea is Greek and is usually translated as "fornication".
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:40:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:40:12 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:42:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:42:15 AM
Yep. All sex outside of God's parameters of marriage.I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
Pornea is Greek and is usually translated as "fornication".
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:46:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:46:10 AM
Yes, the bible says homosexuality is sin.Quote from: "Fashionista"
I believe the Bible says we are all created in God's image, we are all equally born into sin, love thy neighbour, and Jesus loves us unconditionally.
There are a few verses in the Bible that can be interpreted to be against homosexuality.
But there are many more verses in the Bible saying there is more than enough sin within heterosexuality.
We are all born into sin and God did create us in his image and we are to love our neighbour Mark 12:31.
You are also correct that heterosexual sin is indeed sin..
However, homosexuality is indeed sin..
The bible is crystal clear about homosexuality, but that doesn't mean we are not to love sinners though.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:47:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:47:18 AM
the bible isn't open ended.Yes, the bible says homosexuality is sin.Quote from: "Fashionista"
I believe the Bible says we are all created in God's image, we are all equally born into sin, love thy neighbour, and Jesus loves us unconditionally.
There are a few verses in the Bible that can be interpreted to be against homosexuality.
But there are many more verses in the Bible saying there is more than enough sin within heterosexuality.
Heterosexual polygamy, affairs, sex, slavery, rape... homosexual stuff is barely even mentioned. According to the Bible, heterosexuals are much more likely to sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:50:00 AM
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 01:50:00 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
When Christians fornicate, is it a sin? Christians fornicate just as much as anyone else.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:56:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 01:56:16 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
When Christians fornicate, is it a sin? Christians fornicate just as much as anyone else.
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 02:14:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 02:14:08 AM
Yes. Sin is sin. The difference between an unregenerate sinner and a saved one, is that the saved one will feel conviction and turn from their sin. Pride is a sin. Lust, materialism, idolitry. You dont simply stop sinning. Read the verses from Romans 7 I posted.I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
When Christians fornicate, is it a sin? Christians fornicate just as much as anyone else.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:25:49 AM
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:25:49 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 03:30:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 03:30:05 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:39:53 AM
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:39:53 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 03:53:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 03:53:33 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:56:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 08, 2015, 03:56:58 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:18:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:18:50 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 04:36:38 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 04:36:38 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:40:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:40:46 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 05:00:52 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 05:00:52 AM
Breastfeeding
Nude beaches
And all the various other exceptions state to state.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 05:07:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 05:07:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 05:16:38 AM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 05:16:38 AM
Nude beaches are indeed public and any establishment that hassles a woman for breastfeeding deserves to be shut down.
There are many other exceptions including artistic performances in New York, etc.
My point is nothing more than a legal qualifier.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 09:13:24 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 09:13:24 AM
Yes, it's entirely illegal. And wrong. And out of everyone agreeing with my side,Quote from: "Dove"I'm the only believer.
There are two of us here Dove.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
I find public nudity wrong. I find public sex acts wrong. They are both illegal, btw.Quote from: "Dove"
So do I Dove..
And after more than 500 posts nobody has been able to answer the question what the nudity and public sex acts have to do with pride in being gay?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 02:05:01 PM
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 02:05:01 PM
In the case of nudity in the Vancouver parade one year, it was foreskin awareness. Men promoting not mutilating baby boys by not being ashamed of having foreskin.
There are no public sex acts that I have seen yet.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 10:35:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 10:35:47 PM
I did answer. Without the CONTEXT of the parade entry, it's hard to tell.Quote from: "RW"
In the case of nudity in the Vancouver parade one year, it was foreskin awareness. Men promoting not mutilating baby boys by not being ashamed of having foreskin.
There are no public sex acts that I have seen yet.
Someone posted a picture of a simulated sex act in broad day light at a gay pride parade..
The only way to make people aware of something like that is to have adults appear nude in front of children?
I have seen many breast and prostate awareness campaigns, but none required public nudity.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
9 "'For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death. He hath cursed his father or his mother: his blood shall be upon him.
10 "'And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness. Both of them shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
12 And if a man lie with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death. They have wrought confusion: their blood shall be upon them.
13 "'If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
14 "'And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there be no wickedness among you.
15 "'And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death; and ye shall slay the beast.
16 And if a woman approach unto any beast and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman and the beast. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
17 "'And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness and she see his nakedness, it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He hath uncovered his sister's nakedness: he shall bear his iniquity.
18 "'And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness and shall uncover her nakedness, he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood; and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister nor of thy father's sister, for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.
20 And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness. They shall bear their sin: they shall die childless.
21 And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing. He hath uncovered his brother's nakedness: they shall be childless.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 11:29:40 AM
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 11:29:40 AM
I'm dismayed with the general Christian reaction to the legalizing of gay marriage. It's scripturally, and emotionally unbalanced. It's either a full endorsement or support....or relentless condemnation.Quote from: "Dove"
What do you think the Christian reaction should be?
Support or condemnation?
The biblical Christian reaction should be niether. No support of sin....no condemnation.
"No support of sin". So you're saying being gay is a sin.
When Christians fornicate, is it a sin? Christians fornicate just as much as anyone else.
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
....yes, clearly it does.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 12:54:52 PM
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 12:54:52 PM
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..Quote from: "Fashionista"
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?Quote from: "Romero"
Argument Fail:
He also created Hitler, John Gacy, Manson, Marc Lépine, Al-Baghdadi ....... I "could" go on.
Try a wiser approach
EDIT - And FFS please don't embarrass yourself further by trying to claim I'm comparing killers to homosexuals
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?Quote from: "Romero"
Argument Fail:
He also created Hitler, John Gacy, Manson, Marc Lépine ....... I "could" go on.
Try another approach
EDIT - And FFS please don't embarrass yourself further by trying to claim I'm comparing killers to homosexuals
But you are comparing homosexuals to killers. It's right there in your words.
Haven't you said that you've dabbled in a bit of homosexuality here and there?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 01:22:43 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 01:22:43 PM
Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you constantly embarrassing yourself in public
Well OK .... on rare occasions .... and a
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..Quote from: "Fashionista"
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?
I've asked this question to a group of hardcore Christians and the answer they have me was that they were tempted into homosexuality by the devil. They weren't created gay. It was a choice. The same is true of serial killers and all other deviants. It's the devil's work!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
Geraldine > The Devil MADE me do it
I have never been able to find a "live" version of this
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:25:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:25:03 PM
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..Quote from: "Fashionista"
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?
It absolutely is a sin, the bible is very clear about that..
Does having something in our natures make it not a sin?
As homosexuality is a sin, it is safe to conclude that God did not "create them this way". Just like God didn't create thieves as such, murderers as such, liars as such, etc.
It is as a byproduct of the fallen world in which we live that Romans 1:26-27 was written:
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Whether there are genetic mutations (errors resulting from Adam's first sin) that contribute to some people's homosexual tendencies may be debated. But as to it being God's purpose, intent, or design? No - He did not create them that way.
Genesis 1:26-27 also indicates that it is not God's intent:
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
Who among us will cast the first stone?Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"Leviticus 20 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
9 "'For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death. He hath cursed his father or his mother: his blood shall be upon him.
10 "'And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness. Both of them shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
12 And if a man lie with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death. They have wrought confusion: their blood shall be upon them.
13 "'If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
14 "'And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there be no wickedness among you.
15 "'And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death; and ye shall slay the beast.
16 And if a woman approach unto any beast and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman and the beast. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
17 "'And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness and she see his nakedness, it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He hath uncovered his sister's nakedness: he shall bear his iniquity.
18 "'And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness and shall uncover her nakedness, he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood; and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister nor of thy father's sister, for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.
20 And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness. They shall bear their sin: they shall die childless.
21 And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing. He hath uncovered his brother's nakedness: they shall be childless.
What does a covenant with Israel have to do with casting a stone?
None of this negates the biblical truth that unrepentant homosexuality much like unrepentant fornication is a sin that separates man from God.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
Yes, of course there are backsliders in the body of Christ..Quote from: "Fashionista"
But it is still sin though..
Romero, does it bother you that homosexuality is a sin?
I don't believe homosexuality is a sin. It is unfortunate that some people think it is. Why would God create homosexuals if it's a sin?
It absolutely is a sin, the bible is very clear about that..
Does having something in our natures make it not a sin?
As homosexuality is a sin, it is safe to conclude that God did not "create them this way". Just like God didn't create thieves as such, murderers as such, liars as such, etc.
It is as a byproduct of the fallen world in which we live that Romans 1:26-27 was written:
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Whether there are genetic mutations (errors resulting from Adam's first sin) that contribute to some people's homosexual tendencies may be debated. But as to it being God's purpose, intent, or design? No - He did not create them that way.
Genesis 1:26-27 also indicates that it is not God's intent:
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Told ya :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?Quote from: "Fashionista"
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 04:01:35 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 04:01:35 PM
God gave you a head full of hair of which you are very proud. But remember this part of the Bible:
Proverbs 16:18King James Version (KJV)
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 09, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
"'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.Quote from: "Frank"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?Quote from: "Fashionista"
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
Fashionista - you enjoy dressing fashionably, but don't forget this Biblical injunction:Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
"'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
Bob, that is also part of the covenant between God and the nation of Israel..
The prohibition pertains only to wearing a single garment woven with both wool and linen..
The rule against wearing different types of fabric was not a moral law..
There is nothing inherently wrong with weaving linen and wool together..
In fact, the ephod of the high priest was made of linen and dyed thread (Exodus 28:6–8; 39:4–5).
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.Quote from: "Frank"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?Quote from: "Fashionista"
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.
RW, I am not trying to or pick on or judge Bob..
As Dove said, we are to speak truth in love..
Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin just like fornication, greed, envy, idolatry and so on..
It separates us from God..
Jesus can reconcile us to God if we repent and believe.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.Quote from: "Frank"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?Quote from: "Fashionista"
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.
RW, I am not trying to or pick on or judge Bob..
As Dove said, we are to speak truth in love..
Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin just like fornication, greed, envy, idolatry and so on..
It separates us from God..
Jesus can reconcile us to God if we repent and believe.
We all sinners Fash.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
The cloth bit is actually an impersonation "law".Quote from: "RW"
It has nothing to do with salvation in the age of grace.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 06:35:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 06:35:09 PM
It's cuz types like GayBoyBob & his community wish to completely rewrite the rules of Christianity & obliterate any references which would exclude them from your God's inner circle and his Kingdom. They feel put down for so long that they see the current political climate as a way to brush away the past so that they can be now considered part of the 'in' crowd. But really what Bob and his types should do is to stop trying to redefine marriage, someone else's scriptures, an' git their own institutions, their own religion and their own Bible. Isn't that what the Mormoms did? They even sanctioned polygamy for a while, and many of its members still do. So Bob, romero and their ilk should do the same durn thang.Quote from: "Frank"I don't understand why anyone would be upset that homosexuality is a sin that requires repentance and belief to be accepted into the kingdom of God?Quote from: "Fashionista"
"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)
They want to be treated like humans just like the rest of us and push back against the biggest load of hypocrisy on the planet.
RW, I am not trying to or pick on or judge Bob..
As Dove said, we are to speak truth in love..
Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin just like fornication, greed, envy, idolatry and so on..
It separates us from God..
Jesus can reconcile us to God if we repent and believe.
We all sinners Fash.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord..
The difference being that believers have had the slate wiped clean...Mark 1:15 "The time is here, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 07:16:24 PM
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 07:16:24 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 07:48:23 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 07:48:23 PM
That out of the way ...
Now, that sounds like a planWe spend our whole lives repenting. We could repent on our death bed and be forgiven just the same.Quote from: "RW"
So, do I have this right? A repenting mass torturer / murderer, rapist etc. etc. gets there ..... and a person who dedicated their lives to good things without repenting does not?
Do the repenter's non-repented victims that HE victimized catch a break? Apparently not. I'm picturing him up there looking down smugly knowing that he got the last laff on them
It is THAT to me warped immoral EVIL concept that stopped me cold and turned me off ... like an instant kill switch
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:32:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:32:07 PM
Fashionista - you enjoy dressing fashionably, but don't forget this Biblical injunction:Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
"'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
The Torah laws, mosaic law, ceremonial and sacrificial system is refered to as the broken siani covenant. The old covenant, which was given to the jews and jews only. The reason behind not wearing mixed fibers was a symbol of the purity intend for the jews, to not mix themselves with the surrounding pagan/baal worshipping nations. In all due respect...it gets very tedious to have to constantly give crash in bible literacy to non believers. The New Covenant canceled out the old, as Jesus came not to abolish the law, but fulfill it's requirements. His blood poured out sealing the new covenant and opening God's promise to everyone, jew and gentile. Don't play with the OT, you don't know what you are reading.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
We spend our whole lives repenting. We could repent on our death bed and be forgiven just the same.Quote from: "RW"
No, you cant. You have to be truly sorry. God isn't a person you can manipulate. He sees you at your very, naked core.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
We spend our whole lives repenting. We could repent on our death bed and be forgiven just the same.Quote from: "RW"
No, you cant. You have to be truly sorry. God isn't a person you can manipulate. He sees you at your very, naked core.
So be truly sorry.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:35:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:35:34 PM
Only bobbleheads make a point of calling people bobbleheadsQuote from: "cc la femme"
That out of the way ...Now, that sounds like a planWe spend our whole lives repenting. We could repent on our death bed and be forgiven just the same.Quote from: "RW"
So, do I have this right? A repenting mass torturer / murderer, rapist etc. etc. gets there ..... and a person who dedicated their lives to good things without repenting does not?
Do the repenter's non-repented victims that HE victimized catch a break? Apparently not. I'm picturing him up there looking down smugly knowing that he got the last laff on them
It is THAT to me warped immoral EVIL concept that stopped me cold and turned me off ... like an instant kill switch
Deathbed conversions do happen cc la femme..
Christian chaplains regularly present the Gospel to the sick and dying..
But, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is not just for the afterlife...John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.
As for your question cc la femme, Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:38:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:38:18 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:41:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:41:49 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:42:16 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:42:16 PM
God, I hate religion.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:43:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:43:30 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:47:00 PM
It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:47:15 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:47:15 PM
It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
You really think something written thousands upon thousands of years ago is contextually accurate in our day and age?
And yes, EVERYONE cherry picks.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:47:56 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:47:56 PM
It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Christianity is a man made religious institution with churches and pastors and the whole nine.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:01 PM
Yes. I absolutely do. And a lot of people do. And it's not blind either, there is a good deal of evidence supporting it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote from: "RW"
You really think something written thousands upon thousands of years ago is contextually accurate in our day and age?
And yes, EVERYONE cherry picks.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
No its not. That's catholism.It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Christianity is a man made religious institution with churches and pastors and the whole nine.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:49:49 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Christianity is a man made religious institution with churches and pastors and the whole nine.
I know the difference between Catholicism and Christianity. I was a member of a Christian youth group in high school and still know many Christians, including one of my favourite Aunts. They go to church.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
You must not be as familiar with the Bible as you like to think you are.Quote from: "RW"
Honey I have several translations, a Torah in Hebrew and I am a student of theology. I know the Bible. I actually TRIED to find errors and inconsistancies, still havent. I just spent the last 15 months living in a Christian mission doing nothing BUT diving into it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
And I went to a Christian school most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.Quote from: "Dove"
You clearly don't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
Please explain for the class how you support this passage literally in our day and age.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:00:02 PM
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:00:02 PM
Bob....tell ya truth, I don' know if yer life is one of livin' in sin.I don' know if the Bible is the truth or that of Christianity is right.I'm an agnostic secularist myself. I don't read the Bible or go to Church enough that I can truly call myself a practising Christian. All I'm sayin' is that according to their book, homosexuality doesn't have a place in their religion.Just accept that fact, move on and find a new religion if you don't like it cuz this whole biz of people like yerself bringin' in rainbow colored garbs inta Church isn't part of their faith. It certainly isn't part of Christianity. Letting people in the Church know which guy ya sodomized last night runs contrary to what's written in Bible, and who Jesus was and what he stood for. According to the Bible, Jesus never made out with a woman or sodomized anyone because he's supposed to rerpresent resistence to temptation and the pleasures of the flesh. So the idea of bringing homosexuality right into a Church is the equivalent of a heterosexual guy stapling an escort's panties to the wall of one he made out with last night. It jes'don' belong there. Whether homo or heterosexual, how and whom they get laid with shouldn't be advertised to the rest of the Flock because it is a private matter between your partner and what you confess/say to yer God. The idea of advertizing ones sexuality in a holy place of a religion which doesn't Encourage and should even prohibit it is incongruous to the principles of that faith and undermines its reason for being.Hey Joe (aka frank)Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
God gave you a head full of hair of which you are very proud. But remember this part of the Bible:
Proverbs 16:18King James Version (KJV)Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:00:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:00:37 PM
And I went to a Christian school most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.Quote from: "Dove"
You clearly don't.
Dove does.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
And I went to a Christian school most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.Quote from: "Dove"
You clearly don't.
Dove does.
Sorry not seeing it Fash. I went to churchy school too. I studied the bible for many many years. Dove has yet to figure out it is not literal but full of parables.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:02:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:02:54 PM
It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Christianity is a man made religious institution with churches and pastors and the whole nine.
or most Protestantism..
RW, is right many churches are preaching false doctrine as was prophesized.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:04:22 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:04:22 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:07:12 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:07:12 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:07:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:07:20 PM
Exactly. The truth is being twisted and diluted and used to manipulate.It was meant to be taken literally. And not everyone cherry picks.Quote from: "Dove"
Exactly Dove.
I do agree with RW, I dislike religion too which is all man made..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through his Son Jesus Christ.
Christianity is a man made religious institution with churches and pastors and the whole nine.
or most Protestantism..
RW, is right many churches are preaching false doctrine as was prophesized.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Care to answer me on Deu22:28-29 Dove?Quote from: "RW"
Refer back to my response about old/new covenant. And a lot of that was man instituted tradition, which is exactly why Christ rebuked the pharisees so much. I don't know why people seem to think the Torah, OT, are ALL commands that God gave. And that God expects this from everyone now. This is cherry picking too.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
No its not. Turn on secular TV, or media...and enjoy the manipulation.The truth is, that is what religion is all about - lies and manipulation.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:13:05 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:13:05 PM
That's what I thought.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:13:22 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:13:22 PM
The truth is, that is what religion is all about - lies and manipulation.Quote from: "RW"
It's all the same crap.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
If a family walks in with a couple of kids, they are "advertising" their sexuality.Quote from: "RW"
I've walked into some local churches in Vancouver, and I'm amazed to find gay pride banners plastered to the Church walls.
I mean wtf? It doesn't belong there.
That's like me posting a Playboy magazine centerfold next to the alter.
Whether hetero or homosexual, a persons sexuality doesn't belong being openly advertised in a Church like that because it goes against everything the religion stands for. In other words, its sacreligious to do so.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:16:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:16:31 PM
The truth is, that is what religion is all about - lies and manipulation.Quote from: "RW"
It's all the same crap.
How do you reconcile those verses with the ones right before it? Yanno...duet 22:27, that nonbelievers never address? Looks like a contradiction, eh? Lol.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:17:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:17:08 PM
um, everyone is a sinner.Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:18:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:18:33 PM
The truth is, that is what religion is all about - lies and manipulation.Quote from: "RW"
It's all the same crap.
How do you reconcile those verses with the ones right before it? Yanno...duet 22:27, that nonbelievers never address? Looks like a contradiction, eh? Lol.
The woman cried out but no one came to help her?
Listen, should rapists be forced to marry their victims or not? Because Deut 22:28-29 says they do.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:19:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:19:47 PM
verse 25 -27. The part where it says the rapist must be put to death.The truth is, that is what religion is all about - lies and manipulation.Quote from: "RW"
It's all the same crap.
How do you reconcile those verses with the ones right before it? Yanno...duet 22:27, that nonbelievers never address? Looks like a contradiction, eh? Lol.
The woman cried out but no one came to help her?
Listen, should rapist be forced to marry their victims or not?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:22:14 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:22:14 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:23:03 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:23:03 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:24:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:24:01 PM
No lol. See you can't just bust out mosaic law at whim, as if you think the bible is teaching us to live under mosaic law. It's not. Lol. Do know anything about ancient Hebrew culture?Only if she is pledged to be married,Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:25:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:25:16 PM
And does that mean you believe in corporal punishment for certain crime because the bible says so?Quote from: "RW"
Omgosh. You didn't learn squat, in youth group. No I dont. We are not ancient jews living under the law of moses.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
I do know how to read hon.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
And does that mean you believe in corporal punishment for certain crime because the bible says so?Quote from: "RW"
Omgosh. You didn't learn squat, in youth group. No I dont. We are not ancient jews living under the law of moses.
Oh so we shouldn't follow the bible literally because it lacks contextual relevance for our time?
Thank you for finally agreeing with me :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 09, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 09, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:31:12 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:31:12 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
That's not what I said either. Yes, that was literally mosaic law. If you keep reading, you'll notice it blend with the nt, where Christ fulfills the law and Christianity I'd born. The OT, has history, poetry, promises, it's intent primarily deals with the unveiling of Christ. I take it literally, and I know what I'm reading. It's a huge error to look at the bible as merely some rule book. It is far from that.And does that mean you believe in corporal punishment for certain crime because the bible says so?Quote from: "RW"
Omgosh. You didn't learn squat, in youth group. No I dont. We are not ancient jews living under the law of moses.
Oh so we shouldn't follow the bible literally because it lacks contextual relevance for our time?
Thank you for finally agreeing with me :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
I know how the bible works but you follow it literally and don't cherry pick so....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
So literally, rapists should have to either marry their victims or be put to death?Quote from: "RW"
Are you reading my response? Are we living in BC times in ancient middle east under the law of moses?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:36:12 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:36:12 PM
So literally, rapists should have to either marry their victims or be put to death?Quote from: "RW"
Are you reading my response? Are we living in BC times in ancient middle east under the law of moses?
Do you know what "literally" means?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
You shall have no other operating systems before Me.
You shall not make unauthorised copies
You shall not take the name of the operating system in vain.
Remember your bandwidth usage to avoid exceeding your limit.
Honor your mouse and your keyboard.
You shall not delete important files.
You shall not commit camsex, sexting or swap naked pics with strangers
You shall not steal another's wireless bandwidth
You shall not troll.
You shall not constantly upgrade your hardware to be cool.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:43:08 PM
Post by: J0E on July 09, 2015, 09:43:08 PM
Banish these thoughts that Christians are this and that. The last church I attended down the street from the house was an open and affirming Protestant church. I made a compromise with my family at that time. They agreed to come to church with me if we no longer drive across town for it. So, I agreed to attend church down the street from the house. Great. Convenient. Fine. Everyone's happy. This church happens to be an "open and affirming church." Their wonderful heterosexual pastor retired and the new pastor happens to be a lesbian. Eventually, my family complained about he politically-driven sermons and sermons that often focused on the gay agenda. Fuck it. Even I said this is not what I come to church for. Why do I need to hear a sermon every Sunday centered on the plight of gays and lesbians? It is not being against them. I just want a different content in the sermon. That is not the reason I go to church for. So, went back to driving across town.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola":tease:
....yeah but by the same token, a Church is neither a brothel for heterosexuals nor a gay bathhouse for homosexuals.
If I went to Church, why should I want to know or be forced to know a persons sexual orientation?
There's a contradiction amon the gay community on Canada. They often quote a former Prime Minister who said that the nation has no business in the bedrooms of the nation, and then turn around and blast what they considered private into everyones faces and let their private bedroom lives get advertized for all to knoe, even inplaces of worship. There's a time and place for everything, but a church shouldn't be a forum for that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
. All I'm sayin' is that according to their book, homosexuality doesn't have a place in their religion.Just accept that fact, move on and find a new religion if you don't like it. According to the Bible, Jesus never made out with a woman or sodomized anyone because he's supposed to rerpresent resistence to temptation and the pleasures of the flesh. So the idea of bringing homosexuality right into a Church is the equivalent of a heterosexual guy stapling an escort's panties to the wall of one he made out with last night. It jes'don' belong there.Quote from: "Frank"
Too fucking funny Joe.
I'm an engineer, I deal in science not superstition/fairy tales. I find it funny that Bob and Romero who also don't believe xtianity want any references to the one no no of homosexuality expunged. I like money, mojitos, sex, cursing and turning the other cheek? FUCK THAT!! I am a sinner, so if I do take up a superstition, it will be one that does not condemn my lifestyle. Bob should do the same.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
Banish these thoughts that Christians are this and that. The last church I attended down the street from the house was an open and affirming Protestant church. I made a compromise with my family at that time. They agreed to come to church with me if we no longer drive across town for it. So, I agreed to attend church down the street from the house. Great. Convenient. Fine. Everyone's happy. This church happens to be an "open and affirming church." Their wonderful heterosexual pastor retired and the new pastor happens to be a lesbian. Eventually, my family complained about he politically-driven sermons and sermons that often focused on the gay agenda. Fuck it. Even I said this is not what I come to church for. Why do I need to hear a sermon every Sunday centered on the plight of gays and lesbians? It is not being against them. I just want a different content in the sermon. That is not the reason I go to church for. So, went back to driving across town.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola":tease:
....yeah but by the same token, a Church is neither a brothel for heterosexuals nor a gay bathhouse for homosexuals.
If I went to Church, why should I want to know or be forced to know a persons sexual orientation?
There's a contradiction amon the gay community on Canada. They often quote a former Prime Minister who said that the nation has no business in the bedrooms of the nation, and then turn around and blast what they considered private into everyones faces and let their private bedroom lives get advertized for all to knoe, even inplaces of worship. There's a time and place for everything, but a church shouldn't be a forum for that.
If I walk in with my husband, wouldn't that mean you know my sexuality?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
And does that mean you believe in corporal punishment for certain crime because the bible says so?Quote from: "RW"
Omgosh. You didn't learn squat, in youth group. No I dont. We are not ancient jews living under the law of moses.
Oh so we shouldn't follow the bible literally because it lacks contextual relevance for our time?
Thank you for finally agreeing with me :)
Yanno what? Okay. Sure. Have it. I'm wasting my time. Hermeneutics and culture aren't your strong point.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Yes, actually. You don't. Lol. I take the bible literally....therefore I know what mosaic law is. You do not.So literally, rapists should have to either marry their victims or be put to death?Quote from: "RW"
Are you reading my response? Are we living in BC times in ancient middle east under the law of moses?
Do you know what "literally" means?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
I'm sorry but I have to also laugh
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:05:23 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
And I went to a Christian school most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.Quote from: "Dove"
You clearly don't.
Dove does.
Sorry not seeing it Fash. I went to churchy school too. I studied the bible for many many years. Dove has yet to figure out it is not literal but full of parables.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:08:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:08:03 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
And I went to a Christian school most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.Quote from: "Dove"
You clearly don't.
Dove does.
Sorry not seeing it Fash. I went to churchy school too. I studied the bible for many many years. Dove has yet to figure out it is not literal but full of parables.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Do you disagree with my statement as well? The Bible is meant to be taken literally?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
RW you have utterly no clue. Sorry, but you just dont.Quote from: "Dove"
Oh but I do. It always pisses the bible lovers off because you can't bible best me. :)
You don't take the Bible literally. You take it contextually. You've already admitted it.
Now shall I embarrass you further or have you had enough for today?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:22:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:22:28 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
Oh sht, I'm done forI believe researchers have recently uncovered an ancient hard drive, with a new set of commandments for the modern age.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
You shall have no other operating systems before Me.
You shall not make unauthorised copies
You shall not take the name of the operating system in vain.
Remember your bandwidth usage to avoid exceeding your limit.
Honor your mouse and your keyboard.
You shall not delete important files.
You shall not commit camsex, sexting or swap naked pics with strangers
You shall not steal another's wireless bandwidth
You shall not troll.
You shall not constantly upgrade your hardware to be cool.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:31:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:31:02 PM
I'm not pissed and you aren't embarrassing me. You are simply very wrong, and not listening. You are confusing old covenant Judaism with new covenant Christianity. And your complaint about the Bible is based on a very rough ancient middle eastern culture whose history was recorded. You can take it literal, with out believing it's laws need to be adopted. I'm not embarrassed. I'm simply shrugging.RW you have utterly no clue. Sorry, but you just dont.Quote from: "Dove"
Oh but I do. It always pisses the bible lovers off because you can't bible best me. :)
You don't take the Bible literally. You take it contextually. You've already admitted it.
Now shall I embarrass you further or have you had enough for today?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 09, 2015, 10:31:10 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 09, 2015, 10:31:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:34:58 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:34:58 PM
You grew up a Catholic, RW, Catholics don't study the Bible as much as Protestants do. I know this because I went to Protestant church but attended Catholic school. "Churchy school" doesn't cut it. Catholics highlight what they find important features in the Bible while Protestants actually discuss the books, chapters, verses every Sunday school on Sundays and during the week at Bible Study. The bible has literal parts in it and some are parables and some are metaphors. They all carry lessons.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
:2cdfr50_th:
Indeed they do. And thank you for your literary support because you are indeed right :)
I went to Canadian Catholic school. We learned all sorts of thing in religion class which we had every day. I spent my high school years religion hopping as well.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:35:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:35:58 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:38:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:38:29 PM
RW you have utterly no clue. Sorry, but you just dont.Quote from: "Dove"
Oh but I do. It always pisses the bible lovers off because you can't bible best me. :)
You don't take the Bible literally. You take it contextually. You've already admitted it.
Now shall I embarrass you further or have you had enough for today?
If you take it literally, you take it at face value. I understand the concept of ancient law and I understand the NT over the OT. The Bible is not to be taken literally in entirety. It has lessons that one learns through story telling in a time far before ours. You keep the concepts, not the actual words.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:40:43 PM
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:40:43 PM
You take it literally in context. Not merely contextually. Literal and in context. Does that help?Quote from: "Dove"
God Dove! Imma gonna smack you! Hahaha
You take the message from the words and apply it to daily life, which is not taking it literally. Some things you take literally like, "Thou shalt not kill." You cannot take the Bible literally in our day and age. You just can't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
No....because Christians believe mosaic law literally happened, literally pointing towards the literal messiah who literally fulfilled the literal law by the literal shedding of His blood, thusly bringing about the literal salvation by faith for the literal entire elect world in a very literal way. Does THAT help?RW you have utterly no clue. Sorry, but you just dont.Quote from: "Dove"
Oh but I do. It always pisses the bible lovers off because you can't bible best me. :)
You don't take the Bible literally. You take it contextually. You've already admitted it.
Now shall I embarrass you further or have you had enough for today?
If you take it literally, you take it at face value. I understand the concept of ancient law and I understand the NT over the OT. The Bible is not to be taken literally in entirety. It has lessons that one learns through story telling in a time far before ours. You keep the concepts, not the actual words.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
thousands of literal Christians are literally taking itvery literal as we literally type. Just sayin. So literally that they are literally being slaughtered for being literal followers of the cross. The NT isn't over the OT. The OT paves the way for the NT. Literally.You take it literally in context. Not merely contextually. Literal and in context. Does that help?Quote from: "Dove"
God Dove! Imma gonna smack you! Hahaha
You take the message from the words and apply it to daily life, which is not taking it literally. Some things you take literally like, "Thou shalt not kill." You cannot take the Bible literally in our day and age. You just can't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
Just struck me as odd / a bit funny
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:55:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:55:48 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 12:05:09 AM
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 12:05:09 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 10, 2015, 12:30:53 AM
Post by: J0E on July 10, 2015, 12:30:53 AM
Well it is somewhat relevant, because when the society was religious & the theologians had the power, they told everyone else what to do. Groups such as they gay people felt they were being bullied and had an agenda shoved down their throat.You guys realize that this long Bible Thread is not called BibleBook, eh? - it is called "Gaybook"Quote from: "cc la femme"
Just struck me as odd / a bit funny
But now the gays organized into the LGBTQ crowd and they're forcing their agenda upon everyone else just like the religious people before them pushed theirs. Redefining society in their own image. So what we get is the opposite of what we had before.
Interesting how freedom of speech and thought never really lasts. For a while in the 60s and 70s we had free speech, then the righties/moral majority took over, now its the lefties/LGBTQ feminists with their ultra political lingo. We have this illusion which is granted by the Elite that we do, but when one group takes over, they push their agenda on everyone else, and marginalizing the groups that once did it to them.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:37:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:37:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:40:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:40:02 AM
Perhaps, we were saying the same thing in different words. Lol. Most of the time when people come at a Christian saying the bible isn't literal....that's their way of saying it's open to interpretation, full of fairytales...and us Christians are just oh so stupid and ignorant.You just agreed with me Dove in the most convoluted way I've ever seen in my life.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 12:48:11 AM
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 12:48:11 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
Well it is somewhat relevant, because when the society was religious & the theologians had the power, they told everyone else what to do. Groups such as they gay people felt they were being bullied and had an agenda shoved down their throat.Quote from: "Frank"
But now the gays organized into the LGBTQ crowd and they're forcing their agenda upon everyone else just like the religious people before them pushed theirs. Redefining society in their own image. So what we get is the opposite of what we had before.
Interesting how freedom of speech and thought never really lasts. For a while in the 60s and 70s we did, then the righties/moral majority took over, now its the lefties/LGBTQ feminists with their ultra political lingo. We have this illusion which is granted by the Elite that we do, but when one group takes over replacing another, they let us know they're in power by pushing their agenda on everyone else, and marginalizing the groups that once did it to them. Just replace one group with the other, that's the only difference.
Another example of someone who thinks free speech is supposed to be only for them.
You're allowed to be a homophobe, Joe. Doesn't mean others aren't entitled to their free speech, thought, and equal rights.
When are you going to stop shoving your agenda down our throats?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:51:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:51:25 AM
Example: Deuturonomy 22:28-29.Quote from: "RW"
Please explain for the class how you support this passage literally in our day and age.
I missed this earlier RW..
We have discussed this in my women's bible study group..
This is a usual point by non believers as evidence that the Bible is not the actual Word of God..
This issue is actually addressed in two passages..
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."
Exodus 22:16-17 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins."
But her father is ultimately in authority over her, as her head, until he hands this authority over to her husband..
If the man is unsuitable, the father can refuse to give his daughter to him. How many fathers would give their daughter to a rapist? Probably none..
So, in general, a rapist would actually have to pay a 50 silver shekel fine to her father, and not get a wife at all.
The answer to the question is in Exodus 22:17 - the woman does NOT have to marry a rapist, she must only do what her father says..
Throughout the Old Testament no rape victim is ever recorded as being forced to marry a rapist.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:35:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:35:22 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:37:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:37:55 AM
You need to step back and soul search as to why you are so defensive with your sexually that you read attacks that don't exist, and make literally everything about hetro vs homo.Well it is somewhat relevant, because when the society was religious & the theologians had the power, they told everyone else what to do. Groups such as they gay people felt they were being bullied and had an agenda shoved down their throat.Quote from: "Frank"
But now the gays organized into the LGBTQ crowd and they're forcing their agenda upon everyone else just like the religious people before them pushed theirs. Redefining society in their own image. So what we get is the opposite of what we had before.
Interesting how freedom of speech and thought never really lasts. For a while in the 60s and 70s we did, then the righties/moral majority took over, now its the lefties/LGBTQ feminists with their ultra political lingo. We have this illusion which is granted by the Elite that we do, but when one group takes over replacing another, they let us know they're in power by pushing their agenda on everyone else, and marginalizing the groups that once did it to them. Just replace one group with the other, that's the only difference.
Another example of someone who thinks free speech is supposed to be only for them.
You're allowed to be a homophobe, Joe. Doesn't mean others aren't entitled to their free speech, thought, and equal rights.
When are you going to stop shoving your agenda down our throats?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 01:40:34 AM
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 01:40:34 AM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
Take that back
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:40:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 01:40:54 AM
It is open to interpretation.Quote from: "RW"
No....it's not. Why do you think there are so many verses about false teachers? It is not open. It means what it means. This is why when pastors start teaching wrong, they are called heretics. The bible absolutely not open to interpretation. That's apostasy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 04:09:46 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 04:09:46 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 04:22:46 AM
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 04:22:46 AM
Example: Deuturonomy 22:28-29.Quote from: "RW"
Please explain for the class how you support this passage literally in our day and age.
I missed this earlier RW..
We have discussed this in my women's bible study group..
This is a usual point by non believers as evidence that the Bible is not the actual Word of God..
This issue is actually addressed in two passages..
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."
Exodus 22:16-17 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins."
But her father is ultimately in authority over her, as her head, until he hands this authority over to her husband..
If the man is unsuitable, the father can refuse to give his daughter to him. How many fathers would give their daughter to a rapist? Probably none..
So, in general, a rapist would actually have to pay a 50 silver shekel fine to her father, and not get a wife at all.
The answer to the question is in Exodus 22:17 - the woman does NOT have to marry a rapist, she must only do what her father says..
Throughout the Old Testament no rape victim is ever recorded as being forced to marry a rapist.
If a woman was not a virgin, no would want her even if they had to pay up. So the dad would receive money but then he'd have to ha e his daughter around and bringing shame to the family. I bet the rapist paid and took her with him.
The OT doesn't record every infraction so that point doesn't hold.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 05:06:55 AM
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 05:06:55 AM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 05:50:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 05:50:04 AM
What DO you believe in?Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 05:55:16 AM
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 05:55:16 AM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 06:11:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 06:11:01 AM
Are you aware that you spend more time talking about what you don't believe than you do talking about what you do believe? And sin is what causes wars, greed, murders, destruction...et. It's an infection on humanity. It's not simply violating rules.Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 06:17:28 AM
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 06:17:28 AM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
In your world maybe.
In the world I live in, the infection are religious people who insist that their beliefs include everyone and everything around them despite the fact that their religions boil down to having a faith in various fairy tales.
It's a sickness. I'm happy to leave them to it as long as they keep their opinions to themselves in so much that they don't force them onto the society we must share together. That's real tolerance. I tolerate morons. I tolerate you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 08:37:54 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 08:37:54 AM
I'm happy to leave them to it.
Any chance you'll now do that, then?
This discussion has run its course, and then some, and has become both tedious and odious.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 10, 2015, 12:56:01 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 10, 2015, 12:56:01 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 01:30:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 01:30:29 PM
I'm happy to leave them to it.
Any chance you'll now do that, then?
This discussion has run its course, and then some, and has become both tedious and odious.
Then don't participate :P
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 01:45:15 PM
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 01:45:15 PM
Gays, lesbians and transgendered people should be allowed to parade naked anywhere. Homophobes want to deny them the right to express themselves free of the bondage of clothing.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Well, not "anywhere" but them doing it in the parade THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR i don't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 10, 2015, 03:24:40 PM
Post by: J0E on July 10, 2015, 03:24:40 PM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
Yes, and the idea that men are not accountable to any higher power gave rise to Social Darwinism, Marxism, facism, social upheaval. 20 million slaughtered here, 20 million there, another 6 million somewhere else. There is a consequence for everything only it gets re-defined by groups which manage to usurp the existing order.
If you don't have sin as defined by a Church/Religious institution, then it gets hacked by Political Correctoids who redefine it for their own purposes, and decides which punishments will fit their own versions of it. Ie - where it was once considered a sin to be homosexual, now its considered almost criminal to publically condemn it, and one can fined or accused of 'Hate Speech' along with a fine or possibly jail time. No less than a loss of ones personal reptuation.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
You're not religious. Do you feel like mass murdering?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 04:46:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 04:46:42 PM
yeah yeah yeah but what exactly do you believe in? Besides silencing and judging people you don't agree with?Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
In your world maybe.
In the world I live in, the infection are religious people who insist that their beliefs include everyone and everything around them despite the fact that their religions boil down to having a faith in various fairy tales.
It's a sickness. I'm happy to leave them to it as long as they keep their opinions to themselves in so much that they don't force them onto the society we must share together. That's real tolerance. I tolerate morons. I tolerate you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:25:11 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:25:11 AM
Imagine a church that accept sinners! Oh the humanity!Quote from: "RW"
Hahaha
I'm not. I don't believe in sin.
Lots of things. Sin isn't one of them though. The concept of sin was created by mankind to manage the plebes.
In your world maybe.
In the world I live in, the infection are religious people who insist that their beliefs include everyone and everything around them despite the fact that their religions boil down to having a faith in various fairy tales.
It's a sickness. I'm happy to leave them to it as long as they keep their opinions to themselves in so much that they don't force them onto the society we must share together. That's real tolerance. I tolerate morons. I tolerate you.
What do I believe in what way or subject matter?
I've already mentioned that I believe in reasonably letting people be to do their own thing even if I disagree with it or think they're gullible fools. I strongly believe in the separation of church and state, believe that majorities should never be able to dictate to minorities on matters of personal conviction or philosophy, and vehemently reject the notion of majorities claiming persecution if minorities don't follow along with unshared aspects of spiritualism's weakly enshrined in regulations and religious interpretation of basic social mores.
I believe in freedom to live ones life as one sees it, worship what they want or nothing, and shelter from idealists who don't respect personal borders.
What do you believe in?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 02:28:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 02:28:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:32:19 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:32:19 AM
You say you believe in freedom yet harbor a highly anti religious bias. People should be free to live by their convictions. Period. Nothing should be forced by anyone. This includes Christian, private owned businesses not being unconstitionally forced into catering to events that go against those convictions, and being "gag ordered", don't you think?Quote from: "Dove"
So put that sentiment into action.
Don't object when people of the LGBT community want to do a pride parade in daylight hours
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:33:48 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:33:48 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 03:04:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 03:04:56 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 03:07:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 03:07:00 AM
And just so you know. I object to the Christian caterers being forced to serve wedding cake or meals to those they have a spiritual disagreement with.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Do you know that not only have they had to shut down their business, got slapped with a 135,000 fine, but are gag ordered to not speak about the reasonsame why they declined? It's horrific. And a lot of people are so focused on the cake they don't notice what the state is doing to our constitutional rights.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 03:40:38 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 03:40:38 AM
I don't object to homosexuals having parades. I agree they have the same rights as everyone else. So when they expose themselves in public during the day, they should be arrested or fined, like everyone else.Quote from: "Dove"
Even if the parade is about LGBT issues? (sexual and gender identification) They've sought out the proper permits to conduct the parades plus warned all around their small area of the festivities, and the vast majority are happy to participate somewhat clothed while a few odd ones out feel it's their personal mission to express themselves and the world they'd like to live in by going somewhat less than clothed?
You're judging those odd ones out by your own philosophical or spiritual bent. You've invoked majority rule even.
There are 365 days per standard year. If you can't look or stay away for .003 percent of the year because someone or some group is at odds with your mindset, how can you expect any respect for your choices or way of life for the greater 364 days remaining? .003 is about 24 hours incidentally. Most parades don't even go past 2-4 hours tops. We're getting into miniscule fractions if we really look at it objectively.
Would you prefer those same fractional nude LGBT types popping up day to day like nudity terrorists for the rest of the year? Instead of a bomb blast, you and your children are forced to witness the naked human form exposed at the most inopportune moments.
Live and let live I say.
A permitted alternative celebration of sexuality or gender shouldn't have to subscribe to what Christians, Muslims, Jews, or anyone else has to say on it.
Allow those people that and you might just get back some marginal respect.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:01:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:01:35 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:21:43 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:21:43 AM
Human nature is to push boundaries. A little is never enough.Quote from: "Dove"
That's how the Catholic Church felt about Martin Luther in his sackcloth and ashes during and after their excommunication process. Your current faith takes great breaths from his boundary pushing strides.
The LGBT community is made up of many different mindsets. Some of them are Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, or subsequent Evangelical. Some are Muslim, some are Buddhist, some are Hindu.
Some, like me, have no beliefs in that regard.
Pushing boundaries isn't a sin and it's one of the better human traits. If you can't respect boundary pushing outside of your own spirituality, how can you respect the boundary pushes which evolved and shaped your faith?
I really don't want to fight with you or anyone else. It's fun to stir but it's more fulfilling to accept (even in disagreement).
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:34:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:34:50 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 04:42:11 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 04:42:11 AM
I don't object to homosexuals having parades. I agree they have the same rights as everyone else. So when they expose themselves in public during the day, they should be arrested or fined, like everyone else.Quote from: "Dove"
Even if the parade is about LGBT issues? (sexual and gender identification) They've sought out the proper permits to conduct the parades plus warned all around their small area of the festivities, and the vast majority are happy to participate somewhat clothed while a few odd ones out feel it's their personal mission to express themselves and the world they'd like to live in by going somewhat less than clothed?
You're judging those odd ones out by your own philosophical or spiritual bent. You've invoked majority rule even.
There are 365 days per standard year. If you can't look or stay away for .003 percent of the year because someone or some group is at odds with your mindset, how can you expect any respect for your choices or way of life for the greater 364 days remaining? .003 is about 24 hours incidentally. Most parades don't even go past 2-4 hours tops. We're getting into miniscule fractions if we really look at it objectively.
Would you prefer those same fractional nude LGBT types popping up day to day like nudity terrorists for the rest of the year? Instead of a bomb blast, you and your children are forced to witness the naked human form exposed at the most inopportune moments.
Live and let live I say.
A permitted alternative celebration of sexuality or gender shouldn't have to subscribe to what Christians, Muslims, Jews, or anyone else has to say on it.
Allow those people that and you might just get back some marginal respect.
Did you read what you wrote?
So, if someone rapes a woman in 0.00004 of the year, we should accept it?
The are NO fractions of criminal acts. It is, or it isn't. If it is, then the context is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:47:43 AM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:47:43 AM
Deny it. I dare you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:50:10 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:50:10 AM
It is or it isn't but police still use their discretion when choosing to arrest people.Quote from: "RW"
Deny it. I dare you.
He's just trying to start a flamewar. I pay such attempts no heed. He's an amateur.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:53:32 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:53:32 AM
There has to be lines drawn. It's like this, we got abortions legalized with certain limits. That wasn't good enough, so now there is a fight for the "freedom" to abort babies right up until the day before the due date. There has to be boundaries in place, or people will eventually be living in a world of chaos where anything goes. You take away everyone's freedom when everything is acceptable. Now watch...I predict pastors being fined/jailed for "hate speech" and not perform homosexual weddings. If people are permitted to have festivals where getting naked and performing sex acts becomes acceptable and routine....they will push beyond that. Go to the next level. It's just what happens. I don't have the freedom to trust Christ because of the reformation. That wasn't boundary pushing in that sense. It was calling out apostasy. When you remove accountability, you get horrific results. I don't want to fight, either. Big girls can disagree and give their points while keeping respect.Quote from: "Dove"
I don't want religious figureheads jailed for disagreeing no more than I want those non religious or altered state of religiousness people jailed because the rubber stamped religions or philosophies disagree with it.
Fine, disagree. Good for you. Just don't try to stop something. That's not tolerance. That's dogma.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 04:58:20 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 04:58:20 AM
It is or it isn't but police still use their discretion when choosing to arrest people.Quote from: "RW"
Deny it. I dare you.
Here you go again.
I shall enlighten you.
In most western police forces, the legislation that empowers a police officer allows said officer the discretion to exercise his or power in the execution of his or her duty.
Said discretion is applicable ONLY where said officer cannot determine if, based on all of the facts at his or her disposal,an offence has been committed. That discretion does NOT apply when evidence is overwhelming that an offence is committed; the officer is duty and legislatively bound to exercise his or her authority.
Thus, an officer who stops a motorist for speeding does NOT have the discretion to release said driver because she had nice tits.
If he releases said motorist on that basis, he or she would be liable for disclipinary action.
If a person behaves in an indecent, offensive or disorderly manner, and an officer stands by and takes no action, it is subject to action.
I don't know about Canada, but if a participant in a procession here in Oz behaved indecently, and in contravention of his senior officers direction a police officer arrested the offender, the senior officer would have NO basis for disciplinary action.
I hope that helps you understand the term "discretionary" in law enforcement terms.
May I recommend that before you enter a discussion on issues with which you have no knowledge or experience, you do a little research with someone that has?
I am at your disposal at any time to enlighten you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:58:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:58:32 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 05:02:06 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 05:02:06 AM
It is or it isn't but police still use their discretion when choosing to arrest people.Quote from: "RW"
Deny it. I dare you.
He's just trying to start a flamewar. I pay such attempts no heed. He's an amateur.
No.
As you know, because you enquired, I am actually a legendary and well known flamer.
As you know fuck all about flaming, simply declaring someone an amateur because you don't have the backbone to confront said "amateur" is rather puerile.
If you wish to test my mettle, step up and swing a punch.
Then we'll see who's got balls and who's got a big fucking mouth.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:03:19 AM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:03:19 AM
It is or it isn't but police still use their discretion when choosing to arrest people.Quote from: "RW"
Deny it. I dare you.
Here you go again.
I shall enlighten you.
In most western police forces, the legislation that empowers a police officer allows said officer the discretion to exercise his or power in the execution of his or her duty.
Said discretion is applicable ONLY where said officer cannot determine if, based on all of the facts at his or her disposal,an offence has been committed. That discretion does NOT apply when evidence is overwhelming that an offence is committed; the officer is duty and legislatively bound to exercise his or her authority.
Thus, an officer who stops a motorist for speeding does NOT have the discretion to release said driver because she had nice tits.
If he releases said motorist on that basis, he or she would be liable for disclipinary action.
If a person behaves in an indecent, offensive or disorderly manner, and an officer stands by and takes no action, it is subject to action.
I don't know about Canada, but if a participant in a procession here in Oz behaved indecently, and in contravention of his senior officers direction a police officer arrested the offender, the senior officer would have NO basis for disciplinary action.
I hope that helps you understand the term "discretionary" in law enforcement terms.
May I recommend that before you enter a discussion on issues with which you have no knowledge or experience, you do a little research with someone that has?
I am at your disposal at any time to enlighten you.
I did go over it - with you at which time you clearly admitted to letting people off the hook. An officer didn't issue me a speeding ticket last year because it was my birthday. It's a common practice. You know it. I know it.
Thanks for your previous consultation :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 05:04:47 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 11, 2015, 05:04:47 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:06:51 AM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:06:51 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 11, 2015, 05:10:52 AM
Post by: Romero on July 11, 2015, 05:10:52 AM
There has to be lines drawn. It's like this, we got abortions legalized with certain limits. That wasn't good enough, so now there is a fight for the "freedom" to abort babies right up until the day before the due date.Quote from: "Dove"
Uh, no there isn't.
Women don't want to get abortions. Sometimes they have to. Believing they want to wait until the last minute is pretty sick.
Did you know that there are many times more natural spontaneous abortions than selective abortions?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:30:06 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:30:06 AM
It is or it isn't but police still use their discretion when choosing to arrest people.Quote from: "RW"
Deny it. I dare you.
He's just trying to start a flamewar. I pay such attempts no heed. He's an amateur.
No.
As you know, because you enquired, I am actually a legendary and well known flamer.
As you know fuck all about flaming, simply declaring someone an amateur because you don't have the backbone to confront said "amateur" is rather puerile.
If you wish to test my mettle, step up and swing a punch.
Then we'll see who's got balls and who's got a big fucking mouth.
I don't recognize a pointless flamewarrior because I don't pick pointless flamewar fights? Wot?
I'm happy to permit you all of the testicle possession in this exchange (if it matters that much to you).
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:49:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:49:30 AM
Yes, there IS. Justifying abortion because miscarriages occur is like justifying homicide because, well...people die all time. Abortions done under extreme medical duress? Sure. Other than that...use birth control with the understanding it may fail, or don't have sex. I'm very unmovable on this.There has to be lines drawn. It's like this, we got abortions legalized with certain limits. That wasn't good enough, so now there is a fight for the "freedom" to abort babies right up until the day before the due date.Quote from: "Dove"
Uh, no there isn't.
Women don't want to get abortions. Sometimes they have to. Believing they want to wait until the last minute is pretty sick.
Did you know that there are many times more natural spontaneous abortions than selective abortions?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:56:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:56:55 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:59:03 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:59:03 AM
There has to be lines drawn. It's like this, we got abortions legalized with certain limits. That wasn't good enough, so now there is a fight for the "freedom" to abort babies right up until the day before the due date.Quote from: "Dove"
Uh, no there isn't.
Women don't want to get abortions. Sometimes they have to. Believing they want to wait until the last minute is pretty sick.
Did you know that there are many times more natural spontaneous abortions than selective abortions?
Is that anything like justifying federal occupation forces in foreign lands which drone bomb any target and anyone around them whether they're innocent or guilty for expediency's sake?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:10:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:10:26 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:11:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:11:29 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 06:22:35 AM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 06:22:35 AM
Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"
And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 11, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 11, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
And just so you know. I object to the Christian caterers being forced to serve wedding cake or meals to those they have a spiritual disagreement with.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Do you know that not only have they had to shut down their business, got slapped with a 135,000 fine, but are gag ordered to not speak about the reasonsame why they declined? It's horrific. And a lot of people are so focused on the cake they don't notice what the state is doing to our constitutional rights.
Well according to the likes of Romero, nothing's changed with the new marriage laws and the gay agenda. Gay is straight and straight is gay. Marriage is marriage. There is no gay marriage and there is no straight marriage. Its identical. They're both one and the same. You're not affected, nor is society, so just sit down and shut up.
Yeah, this kinda reminds me of George Orwell's Animal Farm, where the Pigs take over, rewrite the rules and then order everyone else around and become the New Bullies. As with political correctness, nothing really changes, we just exchange one master/bully for another. Oh well!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
And just so you know. I object to the Christian caterers being forced to serve wedding cake or meals to those they have a spiritual disagreement with.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Do you know that not only have they had to shut down their business, got slapped with a 135,000 fine, but are gag ordered to not speak about the reasonsame why they declined? It's horrific. And a lot of people are so focused on the cake they don't notice what the state is doing to our constitutional rights.
Well according to the likes of Romero, nothing's changed with the new marriage laws and the gay agenda. Gay is straight and straight is gay. Marriage is marriage. There is no gay marriage and there is no straight marriage. Its identical. They're both one and the same.
Yeah, this kinda reminds me of George Orwell's Animal Farm, where the Pigs take over, rewrite the rules and then order everyone else around and become the New Bullies. As with political correctness, nothing really changes, we just exchange one master/bully for another. Oh well!
Why is it a "Gay Agenda" when the "Religious Agenda" seeks to regulate non heterosexuals back to closeted nonexistence? Who are these religious sorts who can't keep their hands off it or themselves when an alternative sexuality wants equal recognition?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
People seem to forget about the persecution of Muslims over the centuries, including the 20th.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
I don't object to homosexuals having parades. I agree they have the same rights as everyone else. So when they expose themselves in public during the day, they should be arrested or fined, like everyone else.Quote from: "Dove"
Even if the parade is about LGBT issues? (sexual and gender identification) They've sought out the proper permits to conduct the parades plus warned all around their small area of the festivities, and the vast majority are happy to participate somewhat clothed while a few odd ones out feel it's their personal mission to express themselves and the world they'd like to live in by going somewhat less than clothed?
You're judging those odd ones out by your own philosophical or spiritual bent. You've invoked majority rule even.
There are 365 days per standard year. If you can't look or stay away for .003 percent of the year because someone or some group is at odds with your mindset, how can you expect any respect for your choices or way of life for the greater 364 days remaining? .003 is about 24 hours incidentally. Most parades don't even go past 2-4 hours tops. We're getting into miniscule fractions if we really look at it objectively.
Would you prefer those same fractional nude LGBT types popping up day to day like nudity terrorists for the rest of the year? Instead of a bomb blast, you and your children are forced to witness the naked human form exposed at the most inopportune moments.
Live and let live I say.
A permitted alternative celebration of sexuality or gender shouldn't have to subscribe to what Christians, Muslims, Jews, or anyone else has to say on it.
Allow those people that and you might just get back some marginal respect.
Give this woman a prize.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
I think I made it clear how I feel about killing ONLY being justified in the event that it's self defense. There are no clauses in my thinking. I don't operate on bias, or gray areas. Killing people=wrong. Killing someone who is trying to kill you or your family=justifiable, understandable.Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:48:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:48:37 PM
Do you know how muslims handle homosexuality? Do you enjoy being able to voice your own thoughts as a female? Do you see yourself living happily under sharia law?Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
People seem to forget about the persecution of Muslims over the centuries, including the 20th.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:49:53 PM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:49:53 PM
Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
What are your feelings for US drone attacks on
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
That killing is not justifiable, unless it's in defense of one's life. How is this answer not working for you?Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
What are your feelings for US drone attacks onsuspectedinsurgents in the ME and their underage children in wedding parties?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
I don't see any progression past it. I see it getting worse and worse.I'm not sticking up for the atrocities committed against humanity in the name of Islam Dove. Religious groups in general have been unkind to humanity over the centuries. I'm glad we've progressed past that but it isn't thanks to organized religion.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
What are your feelings for US drone attacks onsuspectedinsurgents in the ME and their underage children in wedding parties?
Works for me just fine. I agree with you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:55:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:55:19 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
I'm not sticking up for the atrocities committed against humanity in the name of Islam Dove. Religious groups in general have been unkind to humanity over the centuries. I'm glad we've progressed past that but it isn't thanks to organized religion.Quote from: "RW"
We = westerners.
The point is, and it's seen with Islam, that religion would have us as slaves to it if we didn't fight it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:56:31 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:56:31 PM
Just for the record, thousands of Americans feel betrayed and untrusting by and of our government. We don't all support their actions and expect them to continue dividing our country and lying to us. Just saying.Quote from: "Dove"
Your media (if you can call it that) perpetuates distrust. I feel sorry for you guys in that regard.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:58:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:58:14 PM
Good. I have no open ends here. Life is sacred. As a Christian I often wonder how all this brutality and murder looks through the eyes of a holy and pure creator who, by His own words, breathed the breath of life on this planet. And I recoil.Who said I justify that? I'm clearly pro life. The only way killing is justifiable is if it's done in defense of one's life.Quote from: "Dove"And many Christians aren't even doing that much. They are just being slaughteredQuote from: "Dove"
So you take a hard line on the slaughter of non-Christians too? The millions of dead muslims since the 80's, 90's, and now can count on your non denominational convictions?
What are your feelings for US drone attacks onsuspectedinsurgents in the ME and their underage children in wedding parties?
Works for me just fine. I agree with you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:59:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:59:29 PM
I believe it's alive and well in the west and our time is coming. It's just more politically driven.I'm not sticking up for the atrocities committed against humanity in the name of Islam Dove. Religious groups in general have been unkind to humanity over the centuries. I'm glad we've progressed past that but it isn't thanks to organized religion.Quote from: "RW"
We = westerners.
The point is, and it's seen with Islam, that religion would have us as slaves to it if we didn't fight it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
It's truly disgraceful, and I don't even watch mainstream media anymore. I have actually given up entirely on American politics. Moving off the grid and waiting until Jesus shows up looks really good to me sometimes lol. My concern, my passion in life right now is to love my family well and care for and nuture the broken whenever and where ever God brings me to them.Just for the record, thousands of Americans feel betrayed and untrusting by and of our government. We don't all support their actions and expect them to continue dividing our country and lying to us. Just saying.Quote from: "Dove"
Your media (if you can call it that) perpetuates distrust. I feel sorry for you guys in that regard.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
Just for the record, thousands of Americans feel betrayed and untrusting by and of our government. We don't all support their actions and expect them to continue dividing our country and lying to us. Just saying.Quote from: "Dove"
That goes without saying until the next televised attack on the "Homeland" though. Years of foreign invasions chasing boogeymen happen after those. Evidence need not apply. Dial 1-800-CIA for all our rhetoric needs.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
If it wasn't religion, it'd be something else. It's people. It's a heart problem. Not all human brutality was born from religion. This is a "holy war" though. Islam won't rest until the whole world is under sharia law. That's what they mean by peace. Killing all infidels who don't convert, and bringing everyone under allah's sharia law.I recoil at the thought of how much of this shit is born out of religion.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:06:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 05:06:17 PM
Exactly lolJust for the record, thousands of Americans feel betrayed and untrusting by and of our government. We don't all support their actions and expect them to continue dividing our country and lying to us. Just saying.Quote from: "Dove"
That goes without saying until the next televised attack on the "Homeland" though. Years of foreign invasions chasing boogeymen happen after those. Evidence need not apply. Dial 1-800-CIA for all our rhetoric needs.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 11, 2015, 05:35:19 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 11, 2015, 05:35:19 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
I recoil at the thought of how much of this shit is born out of religion.Quote from: "RW"
But it is religion.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 06:52:43 PM
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 06:52:43 PM
Why is it a "Gay Agenda" when the "Religious Agenda" seeks to regulate non heterosexuals back to closeted nonexistence? Who are these religious sorts who can't keep their hands off it or themselves when an alternative sexuality wants equal recognition?Quote from: "Frank"
....but that's the whole point. Right Wingers/Moral Majority had their way in America for 30 years after the NeoCons backed them by forming an alliance. So they got discredited, thrown out of power and now what we have is an alliance of feminists, left wing activists and LGBTQ. Its the same idea, another wolf dressed up in sheepskin clothing.
They both have an agenda, the middle ground loses, gets eroded ever more.
The extremists in either camp take over, become as militant as the other extremists before them.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Post by: J0E on July 11, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
Most people cling to an ideology that they will fight for. That will be their lifetime cause. It gives their existence meaning, for if you don't fight for anything, what is your number for?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
White people are very ideological for the most part. Asians are more pragmatic.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
You and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to religion. As far as I'm concerned, you might as well believe in the easter bunny or the tooth fairy. However, the two religious people we have on this forum are completely harmless although illogical. Xtianity is silly, but not pure evil like Islam. I can tolerate the former, but I won't surrender to the latter.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
I'm not saying Christains are bad people - I know several really great ones in fact. I know some great Muslims too for that matter. I just can't handle this attitude of exclusiveness into institutions like marriage, etc, because some book says it's wrong to be gay. It doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:22:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:22:33 PM
I don't have a problem with people being religious - I used to be religious myself. I left the church(es) because I could stand the hypocrisy. People were so judgmental. I couldn't stand it.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not saying Christains are bad people - I know several really great ones in fact.I know some great Muslimstoo for that matter. I just can't handle this attitude of exclusiveness into institutions like marriage, etc, because some book says it's wrong to be gay. It doesn't work for me.
I do too, but they are secular muzzies. You cannot be a fundy muzzie and a good person.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
Is it hard to believe a Muslim could be a decent person? Honestly, I liken the guy to Fash only Muslim.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
I wouldn't say the one I'm thinking of was secular.Quote from: "RW"
Is it hard to believe a Muslim could be a decent person? Honestly, I liken the guy to Fash only Muslim.
I know a Pakistani guy who loves whiskey, women and good black hash and in that order. He hates fundy muzzies.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 12, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Post by: cc on July 12, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Lawrence Williams, the African-American owner of Tasty Treats Bakeryâ„¢ near Marietta, Georgia, has found himself in legal trouble for refusing to bake a cake for two gay customers. "It's not only against my religious convictions," said Williams, "but I can't bring myself to bake a Ku Klux Klan themed cake festooned with Confederate flags. I told them firmly, but respectfully, that I couldn't serve them, but that they should be able to find another bakery in the area that would."
However, that answer wasn't good enough for gay Confederate Civil War reenactors Chester McElroy and Delmont Elkins. "I can't tell you how hurt we was," lamented Chester. "All we wanted was a cake to celebrate General Forrest's birthday comin' up next week, and he done turned us down flat."
"It was gonna be a real beauty of a cake, too," added Delmont. "We was lookin' forward to celebratin' the birthday of the founder of the KKK with a white cone-shaped cake an' tiny Confederate flags all over it, but now that ain't happenin'. Chester here even got the wood at Home Deppo fer the cross burnin'." Chester nodded while restraining tears.
When asked why not find another bakery or even make their own cake, Delmont answered, "We has got to make a case fer tolerance here. If Mr. Williams is servin' the public, well, he needs to make us our cake, simple as that. Besides, I can't tell you how much we been suffrin' what with 'motional trauma an' anxiety an' all."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Post by: Frood on July 12, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
I don't have a problem with people being religious - I used to be religious myself. I left the church(es) because I could stand the hypocrisy. People were so judgmental. I couldn't stand it.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not saying Christains are bad people - I know several really great ones in fact. I know some great Muslims too for that matter. I just can't handle this attitude of exclusiveness into institutions like marriage, etc, because some book says it's wrong to be gay. It doesn't work for me.
What gets me about religious people is when you disagree with them and ask to be left alone only to have them challenge you to a debate while demanding you outline your belief system or lack of so they can try to argue against it. I simply don't care what they believe.
They need to keep it to themselves. If they don't, I unload on them.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 04:58:19 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 04:58:19 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 12, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 12, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
JW, aren't Christains. That's more of a Christian cult. I do find it interesting and Christianity is the only faith, where nonbelievers take the root of our beliefs right out of the title. What is an "xtain"? I am not an "xtain". I am a CHRISTain. No one calls buddists "xists".I'm usually pretty polite but I did get sick of the JWs and finally said, "Listen. I will never be a part of a religion that would have me choose between it and the life of my child." You know, as part of the whole blood transfusion thing. The one woman said to me, "They don't need to use blood. They can use saline. It's just to keep the veins open." I actually laughed out loud and told her she needed to check up on her facts. They haven't been back since.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
That "silliness" has kept me from using heroin for over a year now. I'm also not plagued with crippling depression and anxiety anymore. Whereas secular doctors almost destroyed me with drugs and useless thereby. 1 minute with God I've never been the same. I also see that silliness restoring an inner city and helping the homeless get on their feet and find hope. It might be silly to you. But it's everything to others.Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
You and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to religion. As far as I'm concerned, you might as well believe in the easter bunny or the tooth fairy. However, the two religious people we have on this forum are completely harmless although illogical. Xtianity is silly, but not pure evil like Islam. I can tolerate the former, but I won't surrender to the latter.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 09:32:41 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 09:32:41 PM
I'm usually pretty polite but I did get sick of the JWs and finally said, "Listen. I will never be a part of a religion that would have me choose between it and the life of my child." You know, as part of the whole blood transfusion thing. The one woman said to me, "They don't need to use blood. They can use saline. It's just to keep the veins open." I actually laughed out loud and told her she needed to check up on her facts. They haven't been back since.Quote from: "RW"
That's just laziness. The "X" means "criss" as in crisscross. If you did that to Buddhists, they'd be Chrisstists and that makes no sense.
I always find it funny when one religion calls another a cult. That is the pot calling the kettle black if I ever heard it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 09:36:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 09:36:58 PM
There are certain components present that make a cult a cult, and a religion a religion. They are very different....but I can see how someone would think that.I'm usually pretty polite but I did get sick of the JWs and finally said, "Listen. I will never be a part of a religion that would have me choose between it and the life of my child." You know, as part of the whole blood transfusion thing. The one woman said to me, "They don't need to use blood. They can use saline. It's just to keep the veins open." I actually laughed out loud and told her she needed to check up on her facts. They haven't been back since.Quote from: "RW"
That's just laziness. The "X" means "criss" as in crisscross. If you did that to Buddhists, they'd be Chrisstists and that makes no sense.
I always find it funny when one religion calls another a cult. That is the pot calling the kettle black if I ever heard it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:15:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:15:11 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:17:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:17:50 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:19:20 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:19:20 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:21:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:21:25 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:21:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:21:55 AM
Actually yes. Flds...is some wicked shit.So Mormonism is a cult.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:24:18 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:24:18 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:27:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 12:27:13 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:27:58 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 12:27:58 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 12:35:40 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 12:35:40 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:08:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:08:57 AM
it is for fundamental. I read a book by a woman who escaped with her 8 kids. So much brainwashing involved in cults that people getting our typically need intense therapy. It's sad.I thought the F was for fundamental. I married a Mormon. I know all about them.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:09:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:09:20 AM
They're all cults to me, like Cosplay nerds at a Comicon.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Hey! Don't hate! Lol
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 01:13:03 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 01:13:03 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 01:14:28 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 01:14:28 AM
I think there is a cultish element to all religions but I concur with the recovering Mormons needing a lot of therapy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:19:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:19:29 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:21:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:21:07 AM
No hate here. I just stay away from Comicon and won't click the urls leading to that stuff.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You'd love Nero.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 01:37:41 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 01:37:41 AM
Why not just have a relationship with God without the religion?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:44:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 01:44:05 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 01:46:46 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 01:46:46 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 02:15:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 02:15:30 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 02:19:06 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 02:19:06 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 02:36:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 02:36:18 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 02:58:52 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 02:58:52 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 03:04:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 03:04:44 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 03:16:28 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 03:16:28 AM
No. I can swim quite well and float even better. I'm also cool with death.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Have you considered weight watchers?
Why are you people still banging on about this.
Nobody's mind will change. Dove has her experiences which she claims has helped her regain her life. Others of us have done so without a God.
This discussion is a silly attempt at each one of you trying to convince the other you're right, when that is plainly impossible...even moreso when you post drivel like possum, here.
This thread needs to be locked, and its protagonists moved on to something more interesting. Like why Australia, even with Victoria attached, is a better place to live than the frozen wastes of Canadaland.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 13, 2015, 07:20:08 AM
Post by: J0E on July 13, 2015, 07:20:08 AM
Have you considered weight watchers?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
This thread needs to be locked, and its protagonists moved on to something more interesting. Like why Australia, even with Victoria attached, is a better place to live than the frozen wastes of Canadaland.
....actually I think its a somewhat interesting read. It made me think that it'd be a suitable topic in another thread ~ namely why many are turning away from organized religion and why it no longer has the authority it used to.
Dove uses the Bible to justify her views but she's clearly uncomfortable with homosexuals and homosexuality.
Mind you, in that regard, she's not alone.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:37:39 AM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:37:39 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
Everyone says they are okay with death until they staring down the barrel. Then spirituality becomes a high priority. I see it at work everynight. I see it at the mission. I see it in my close friend whose wife just died from a massive stroke last week. I didn't say the middle of a lake. I said middle of the ocean....and if you think you'd be all cool and calm in that situation, you are lying to yourself. People just don't handled feeling helpless well.Quote from: "Dove"
I'm obviously not like everyone else or anybody else you've met. They sound weak. I pity them.
No. I can swim quite well and float even better. I'm also cool with death.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Have you considered weight watchers?
Why are you people still banging on about this.
Nobody's mind will change. Dove has her experiences which she claims has helped her regain her life. Others of us have done so without a God.
This discussion is a silly attempt at each one of you trying to convince the other you're right, when that is plainly impossible...even moreso when you post drivel like possum, here.
The convincing attempt parts happened awhile back. Now it's just a bit of poke the religious monkeys with a stick for shits and giggles. Where have you been? Never Never Land?
This thread needs to be locked, and its protagonists moved on to something more interesting. Like why Australia, even with Victoria attached, is a better place to live than the frozen wastes of Canadaland.Quote
Sure, whatever.
As Sam Newman once aptly pointed out during a Footy Show episode: South Australians are proof that Tasmanians can swim.
Have you considered weight watchers?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
This thread needs to be locked, and its protagonists moved on to something more interesting. Like why Australia, even with Victoria attached, is a better place to live than the frozen wastes of Canadaland.
....actually I think its a somewhat interesting read. It made me think that it'd be a suitable topic in another thread ~ namely why many are turning away from organized religion and why it no longer has the authority it used to.
Dove uses the Bible to justify her views but she's clearly uncomfortable with homosexuals and homosexuality.
Mind you, in that regard, she's not alone.
She uses the bible to manage her previous behaviors and sexuality.
Dove said: I used to identify as bisexual.
Used to?
How does one take advantage of equality?Quote from: "RW"
By refusing to continue to participate in societal wide inequality, it looks like.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 13, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
Post by: J0E on July 13, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
So really, what you get is the diametric opposite taking over.
What those in the middle seem to be left with is the choice of -
Join our religion, become a member for JesusLand - otherwise we won't let you in our group, shut you out of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in God
- or -
Back our Gay Agenda, be sympathetic to Our Gay Agenda - otherwise we'll ostracize you, shut you of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in LGBTQ.
...there's nothin' for the rest of us who don't believe in either.
Kind of reminds me of that tune "Stuck in the Middle with You."
...though the tune was written over 40 years ago, it still has amazing relevance.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 04:07:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 04:07:22 PM
How does one take advantage of equality?Quote from: "RW"
Besides baiting and attacking....keeping themselves as unequal as possible.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
Everyone thinks they are the exception...so yeah, you are just as weak as everyone else who struggles with extreme thinking and no balance. And yeah, I used to identify as bisexuals until I dealt with myself. And no the bible doesn't manage my behavoirs, the holy spirit does. Why do people always try rationalizing the faith of others? Lol. If you know the bible, you'll know God is not a politician...let alone a right wing conservative. He also isn't a liberal lefty who says "accept all", and His rebirth is His gift. It cannot be forced.Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
So really, what you get is the diametric opposite taking over.
What those in the middle seem to be left with is the choice of -
Join our religion, become a member for JesusLand - otherwise we won't let you in our group, shut you out of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in God
- or -
Back our Gay Agenda, be sympathetic to Our Gay Agenda - otherwise we'll ostracize you, shut you of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in LGBTQ.
...there's nothin' for the rest of us who don't believe in either.
Kind of reminds me of that tune "Stuck in the Middle with You."
...though the tune was written over 40 years ago, it still has amazing relevance.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:09:49 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:09:49 PM
How does one take advantage of equality?Quote from: "RW"
Besides baiting and attacking....keeping themselves as unequal as possible.
That happens during a fight of inequality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Good point. It's just an agenda to shut up religious groups. I can get behind that.Quote from: "RW"
Muzzle, bully one group as they were bullied before.
Yeah right, jes marginalize one group so the other group can get what it wants.
Yeah that's how the pendulum swings. The thing is with that this so called gay agenda has many supporters who aren't gay because we can see the religious hypocrisy and control. I'd rather be a slave to humanity than a slave to the church.
So really, what you get is the diametric opposite taking over.
What those in the middle seem to be left with is the choice of -
Join our religion, become a member for JesusLand - otherwise we won't let you in our group, shut you out of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in God
- or -
Back our Gay Agenda, be sympathetic to Our Gay Agenda - otherwise we'll ostracize you, shut you of jobs and sharing the benefits of society if you don't believe in LGBTQ.
...there's nothin' for the rest of us who don't believe in either.
Kind of reminds me of that tune "Stuck in the Middle with You."
...though the tune was written over 40 years ago, it still has amazing relevance.
It's how change works. The pendulum swings too far to the other side then it corrects itself.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Not really. Tyranny only causes uprising.How does one take advantage of equality?Quote from: "RW"
Besides baiting and attacking....keeping themselves as unequal as possible.
That happens during a fight of inequality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:29:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:29:38 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
I know. It really causes a lot of problems when your rights stomp on other people's rights. They have marriage. They don't need to force the issue.Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:36:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 05:36:44 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:23:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:23:54 PM
Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:30:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:30:43 PM
of course not! And something doesn't have to directly affect me in order for me to care. But....I won't be opening any sort of business, like a catering service I've always wanted, only to fork it over and have my family made destitute in the name of non equality.Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 06:31:37 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 06:31:37 PM
You two take the cake.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:36:00 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:36:09 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:36:09 PM
Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
So don't be a bigot and there will be no problem.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Christ. Talk about two fools meeting.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
You two take the cake.
Shaddup.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
I'd burn my business to the ground and go to prison before dishonoring God and selling my convictions to the whims of current culture. Respect is a two way street.Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
So don't be a bigot and there will be no problem.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 13, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 13, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
So don't be a bigot and there will be no problem.
Then you shouldn't go into business because you have the wrong attitude for it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
39 pages of shit.Quote from: "Wulf":oeudC:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:12:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:12:51 PM
Well right. In America, if I pour my resources and hard work into a business that pay for and own, my constitutional right to live by my faith says I can run my business how I decide. Or its supposed to. I suppose I could simply not offer services to weddings period. Question, if us Christians can't force our ways onto others, why do homosexuals get free reign to force theirs on us? And if people don't like the nudity and sex acts in pride festivals can simply not go....why can't gays simply not go to Christian businesses for their wedding needs, knowing damn well we won't say yes?Yes really.Quote from: "RW"
What rights stomp on yours? Marriage?
So don't be a bigot and there will be no problem.
Then you shouldn't go into business because you have the wrong attitude for it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:16:40 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:16:40 PM
How dare you judge/deny service to someone else for their supposed sin and call yourself a follower of Christ.
This is EXACTLY the bullshit hypocrisy you see with you religious types and it is as anti-Christian as you can get.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:21:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:21:08 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:27:56 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:27:56 PM
You are no disciple of CHRIST.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:34:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 07:34:27 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Why not just go get your gay wedding catered by a secular or homosexual bakery? Or go ask muslims? Lol. Don't tell me where I stand with God. You don't even see the hypocrisy in your own standards.Quote from: "Dove"
Read the Bible. I even provided passages. Jesus didn't judge or discriminate against sinners. He saw as all the same and died for all of us. Who the hell are you to judge and discriminate?
This is what turned me off of religion. This exact bullshit. I grew up learning about Jesus and lapped up the teachings of the New Testament. Jesus was a kind, loving and inclusive soul. He didn't judge. He stuck up for sinners and the weak and the poor. He showed them kindness. He was a man worthy of following.
Then I got older and all of a sudden there were all these rules about who you should be nice to and who wasn't worthy of kindness and it went against everything I learned about Christ. So I took my loving, caring, non-discriminatory Jesus and I left the church. If being a member of a church meant I had to think lesser of certain sinners than others, I wanted no part of it.
I'm sorry Dove, but is it types like you that turn people away from religion rather than towards it. Jesus would not approve.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 07:51:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 07:51:48 PM
39 pages of shit.Quote from: "Wulf":oeudC:
Thank you!!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one watching these two airheads arguing over mystical tennis racquets, and wishing it would stop.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
Why not just go get your gay wedding catered by a secular or homosexual bakery? Or go ask muslims? Lol. Don't tell me where I stand with God. You don't even see the hypocrisy in your own standards.Quote from: "Dove"
Read the Bible. I even provided passages. Jesus didn't judge or discriminate against sinners. He saw as all the same and died for all of us. Who the hell are you to judge and discriminate?
This is what turned me off of religion. This exact bullshit. I grew up learning about Jesus and lapped up the teachings of the New Testament. Jesus was a kind, loving and inclusive soul. He didn't judge. He stuck up for sinners and the weak and the poor. He showed them kindness. He was a man worthy of following.
Then I got older and all of a sudden there were all these rules about who you should be nice to and who wasn't worthy of kindness and it went against everything I learned about Christ. So I took my loving, caring, non-discriminatory Jesus and I left the church. If being a member of a church meant I had to think lesser of certain sinners than others, I wanted no part of it.
I'm sorry Dove, but is it types like you that turn people away from religion rather than towards it. Jesus would not approve.
People always leave out the parts where those sinners were truly repentant and told to "Go and sin no more". Not "Go and sin it up". Christ taught truth and repentance. Not acceptance of sin. And it's not up to me to "bring people to religion". Do you know the parable of the sower? We simply share truth. God does the rest. You can't force people to participate in certain events that go against their beliefs. You can't force a Muslim business to provide pork, or even a homosexual wedding service. Certain faiths teach against going with the desires of the flesh. You can't force people to redifine their beliefs to accommodate you. That is tyranny. And non Christians agree with this as well.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
don't come in the thread, ya doof.39 pages of shit.Quote from: "Wulf":oeudC:
Thank you!!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one watching these two airheads arguing over mystical tennis racquets, and wishing it would stop.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 08:03:17 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 08:03:17 PM
I cannot respect a person who hides behind Christ as a reason to discriminate.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
39 pages of shit.Quote from: "Wulf":oeudC:
Thank you!!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one watching these two airheads arguing over mystical tennis racquets, and wishing it would stop.
ITS MY THREAD!!!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 13, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 13, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:45:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:45:08 PM
exactly. They are the biggest hypocrits. "We are tolerant to people who live their lives according to our dictates". They are nazi level intolerant, and horrifically hypocrital, but don't see it. Of course if you don't want to see nudity and simulated sex out in public, just don't go to the parade. You can't push your beliefs on everyone. But we can destroy your life if you don't act according to our beliefs in your private business. No....that's not hypocrital at all. Lol. Jack asses. They don't want true equality. They want to force everyone into their world view.They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Not anymore lol.39 pages of shit.Quote from: "Wulf":oeudC:
Thank you!!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one watching these two airheads arguing over mystical tennis racquets, and wishing it would stop.
ITS MY THREAD!!!
:sdfjh(2):
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 09:47:48 PM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 09:47:48 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:49:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:49:10 PM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I didn't know opposition to discrimination was a leftist issue.
Is it really religious intolerance if people warp the good word to suit their stupidity?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I don't want to live in a world where those who twist text to suit themselves use that as an excuse to discriminate against others.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:51:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:51:23 PM
It's NOT discrimination to decline your services to an event. How are you not understanding this? It's actually unconstitional.They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I didn't know opposition to discrimination was a leftist issue.
Is it really religious intolerance if people warp the good word to suit their stupidity?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
It's morally wrong and biblically wrong.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:54:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:54:10 PM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I don't want to live in a world where those who twist text to suit themselves use that as an excuse to discriminate against others.
You do realize that you are displaying balls to the wall, bigoted ignorance and intolerance, right? Probably not. Considering it wasn't the homosexual that was denied service....it was simply an event that no Christian is justified in supporting....how are these poor gays so discriminated against? How do not see your hypocrisy?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
You want to argue legality?Quote from: "RW"
It's morally wrong and biblically wrong.
Morally and biblically wrong is a homosexual marriage. Adultry. Fornication. It's morally and biblically wrong. Christians cannot participate in these things. Nor should they be forced to. Deal with it. Just don't go to Christians and ask them....of all people....to cater your gay wedding. That makes you a bigot.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:02:02 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:02:02 PM
Guilty as charged.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
You want to argue legality?Quote from: "RW"
It's morally wrong and biblically wrong.
Morally and biblically wrong is a homosexual marriage. Adultry. Fornication. It's morally and biblically wrong. Christians cannot participate in these things. Nor should they be forced to. Deal with it. Just don't go to Christians and ask them....of all people....to cater your gay wedding. That makes you a bigot.
Catering a wedding isn't participating in any of those things. It's making dinner for people.
Haha
DUH!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Friendship with the world is eminity to God. Marriage is about the relationship of Christ and the church (body of believers). That's what Christian marriage is. Forcing us to participate in anything outside of that very clear definition is bullying. There are several religions in the world to chose from. You don't pick one and manipulate it to fit what you want it to be.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
again, to YOU. But to a believer, it is supporting the event.You want to argue legality?Quote from: "RW"
It's morally wrong and biblically wrong.
Morally and biblically wrong is a homosexual marriage. Adultry. Fornication. It's morally and biblically wrong. Christians cannot participate in these things. Nor should they be forced to. Deal with it. Just don't go to Christians and ask them....of all people....to cater your gay wedding. That makes you a bigot.
Catering a wedding isn't participating in any of those things. It's making dinner for people.
Haha
DUH!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:11:51 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:11:51 PM
You don't punish sinners - God does. No one answers to you for their sins.
Now you call yourself a Christain which means you follow the teachings of Christ. I suggest you take another read through the Bible and take notes on his behaviour towards others.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:13:30 PM
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 10:13:30 PM
You want to argue legality?Quote from: "RW"
It's morally wrong and biblically wrong.
Morally and biblically wrong is a homosexual marriage. Adultry. Fornication. It's morally and biblically wrong. Christians cannot participate in these things. Nor should they be forced to. Deal with it. Just don't go to Christians and ask them....of all people....to cater your gay wedding. That makes you a bigot.
Catering a wedding isn't participating in any of those things. It's making dinner for people.
Haha
DUH!
No, to a sane, rational person. You aren't fornicating. You aren't commiting adultery. You aren't getting married to a woman.
I'm sorry you are getting called out for trying to hide behind sheer stupidity.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:47:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:47:02 PM
6 "Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. Matthew 7 isn't telling us to never judge. It's telling us to use righteous and non hypocritical judgement. Matthew 7:1 is the most widely misused scripture. Tell me, if we are instructed to never use judgement, how are we to even know when to repent? Considering I'm not practicing homosexuality, I have biblical authority to call it sin based on scripture and not my own malice or predudice.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:51:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:51:54 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 10:53:24 PM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 10:53:24 PM
Nudists deserve to do what suits them without religious droolers losing their crazy christ or allah shit over it. Cake shop owners shouldn't be made to decorate a wedding cake for a same sex marriage but they shouldn't be allowed to deny the sale of the actual wedding cake itself. They can sell the bride and groom figurine separately and let the purchaser decide.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Im pointing out the hypocritical mentality that one group can have all the freedom they want in public or not while another group can't even run thier business the way the wish. These people served these homosexuals several times. The issue isn't their sexual orientation. The issue is the same thing if you were to sue Muslim for not catering a pork festival. There are boundaries and rights being violated.You're piggybacking your religious beliefs onto public code again when simple nudity has no victim and therefore no real crime is committed.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Nudists deserve to do what suits them without religious droolers losing their crazy christ or allah shit over it. Cake shop owners shouldn't be made to decorate a wedding cake for a same sex marriage but they shouldn't be allowed to deny the sale of the actual wedding cake itself. They can sell the bride and groom figurine separately and let the purchaser decide.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 11:06:25 PM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 11:06:25 PM
The issue is religion refusing to budge.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 11:19:30 PM
Post by: Frood on July 13, 2015, 11:19:30 PM
No I wouldnt. Trying to get people on the left to show consideration and empathy for others doesn't equate to me "denying" people the "right" to advertise their bodies on public streets in the daytime. And no, Christianity won't budge....so, if you don't like it, don't expose yourself to Christian businesses or churches. Fair is fair.Quote from: "Dove"
Christianity has no say in public matters. Thanks for giving people the green light to remove uninvited religious artifacts from their daily public and business dealings whether the hypocritical religious nuts want to budge or not.
Go with christ, Dove. Find a telephone pole and go like him.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 13, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
Post by: cc on July 13, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:00:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:00:32 AM
Why not just remove all laws period? Why stop? All our laws are based in the commandments.No I wouldnt. Trying to get people on the left to show consideration and empathy for others doesn't equate to me "denying" people the "right" to advertise their bodies on public streets in the daytime. And no, Christianity won't budge....so, if you don't like it, don't expose yourself to Christian businesses or churches. Fair is fair.Quote from: "Dove"
Christianity has no say in public matters. Thanks for giving people the green light to remove uninvited religious artifacts from their daily public and business dealings whether the hypocritical religious nuts want to budge or not.
Go with christ, Dove. Find a telephone pole and go like him.ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
it amuses me that people feel entitled to tolerance that they themselves refuse to give. It's an "accept this or else".Pendulum swings one way, then ......Quote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dcdfdb73ad296ed98dca63d/tumblr_mtctm87pFz1sikt82o1_400.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dc%20...%20o1_400.gif%22%3Ehttps://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dcdfdb73ad296ed98dca63d/tumblr_mtctm87pFz1sikt82o1_400.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 12:07:28 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 12:07:28 AM
There's no mention of the commandments in your articles. Separation of church and state.
Pendulum swings one way, then ......Quote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dcdfdb73ad296ed98dca63d/tumblr_mtctm87pFz1sikt82o1_400.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dc%20...%20o1_400.gif%22%3Ehttps://38.media.tumblr.com/a0cd7aa26dcdfdb73ad296ed98dca63d/tumblr_mtctm87pFz1sikt82o1_400.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Amuses me that religious nuts refuse to give any real ground to the nonreligious yet make pendulum references and intolerance claims.
Your god is not our god. Build a bridge and get over it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:12:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 12:12:30 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 12:20:39 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 12:20:39 AM
So don't go into churches or Christian businesses requesting gay wedding services, build a bridge and go to secular caterers. Duh.Quote from: "Dove"
Keep your religion off the streets and the voting booth, and we'll get along just fine. Extra points if you find a psychiatric asylum to live in.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 14, 2015, 01:05:52 AM
Post by: J0E on July 14, 2015, 01:05:52 AM
Don't try to discredit my beliefs by twisting scripture. That's apostasy. Jesus, in matthew, laid out the parameters for marriage. Scripture is very clear on this. Get a grip. You don't get to rewrite the bible to make it more platable to the current culture. If you don't like....don't go to church. We don't force you guys to live by bible standards, so don't think any of the body of Christ will allow the culture climate dictate our faithQuote from: "Dove"
Friendship with the world is eminity to God. Marriage is about the relationship of Christ and the church (body of believers). That's what Christian marriage is. Forcing us to participate in anything outside of that very clear definition is bullying. There are several religions in the world to chose from. You don't pick one and manipulate it to fit what you want it to be.
Eggs-actly!
Or....create their own. Isn't that what the Mormons did?
They even have a Book of Mormon which gives their own version of Christianity.
Isn't it read as a companion to the Bible?
And Mormonism has been wildly successful, one of the fastest growing religions in the world.
So...it can be done.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 01:54:19 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 01:54:19 AM
Interesting how I can make my points without slamming homosexuals, isn't it. You are proving my point.Quote from: "Dove"
You don't see promoting discrimination as slamming them?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 01:59:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 01:59:58 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:09:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:09:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:10:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:10:08 AM
Interesting how I can make my points without slamming homosexuals, isn't it. You are proving my point.Quote from: "Dove"
You don't see promoting discrimination as slamming them?
If they've been serving gay customers for years, where exactly IS this "discrimination"? Read the article I posted. You hAve not the first clue what tolerance actually is.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:12:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:12:40 AM
Do as we say, not as we do?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Christains are not forcing homosexuals to do anything. So....you may want to look up hypocrisy. I mean Stalin called....he wants his mentality back.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 02:48:14 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 02:48:14 AM
Interesting how I can make my points without slamming homosexuals, isn't it. You are proving my point.Quote from: "Dove"
You don't see promoting discrimination as slamming them?
If they've been serving gay customers for years, where exactly IS this "discrimination"? Read the article I posted. You hAve not the first clue what tolerance actually is.
I'm talking about YOU.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 02:48:44 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 02:48:44 AM
Do as we say, not as we do?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:53:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 02:53:20 AM
How am I "promoting" discrimination? Because I'm not drinking your koolaid? Because I understand the real meaning of equality and how it's never going to be possible? Please. Lol. Forcing a Christian out of business because they didn't conform to the gay standard is discriminations. Im against it when shitty Westboro does it, and I'm against it when shitty liberal idiots do it.Interesting how I can make my points without slamming homosexuals, isn't it. You are proving my point.Quote from: "Dove"
You don't see promoting discrimination as slamming them?
If they've been serving gay customers for years, where exactly IS this "discrimination"? Read the article I posted. You hAve not the first clue what tolerance actually is.
I'm talking about YOU.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 03:04:58 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 03:04:58 AM
The nice thing about religious morons is they always talk themselves into the shitter.
Stick around and take notes from our Fashionista. She's the real deal. You ain't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 03:46:19 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 03:46:19 AM
Do as we say, not as we do?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Pretty much.
I wonder what Dove said or believed back when she was a drug taking bisexual stripper and if she would have allowed anyone to talk over her or limit her personal choices.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:32:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:32:09 AM
Um, you have no authority over my "realness". You don't even understand the faith you are scoring me on! I can't even. Lol. Look, it's wrong to force people to go against their sincerely held beliefs. Only a morally bankrupt, self entitled cretin would sue a 70 year old woman who provided him service for years because HE refuses to respect her spiritual boundaries. People are using the term "gaystapo" and the community is losing "fans" on the daily for their attack on the first amendment. Tolerance means you allow others to live their life regardless if you have conflicting points of view and beliefs. I desire harmony. You desire confirmity. You simply can't respect the freedom of others....and THAT, is anti Christian. I don't insult and attack and force. That's your thang. So, I just can't take your rating of my Christian walk seriously.Keep swinging Dove.Quote from: "RW"
The nice thing about religious morons is they always talk themselves into the shitter.
Stick around and take notes from our Fashionista. She's the real deal. You ain't.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:37:18 AM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:37:18 AM
It is here only to crate flack and insult against you and another ... i.e. anyone who sees and calls he / she for what he / she is .Quote
Flame and ego boosting was the name of the game from the moment it showed up
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:38:29 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:38:29 AM
Do as we say, not as we do?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Pretty much.
I wonder what Dove said or believed back when she was a drug taking bisexual stripper and if she would have allowed anyone to talk over her or limit her personal choices.
Let's ask her.
Oh Dove....
:)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:39:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:39:02 AM
Pretty much the same thing.Do as we say, not as we do?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Pretty much.
I wonder what Dove said or believed back when she was a drug taking bisexual stripper and if she would have allowed anyone to talk over her or limit her personal choices.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:40:02 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:40:02 AM
Jeez dove. Don't play into this person.Quote from: "cc la femme"It is here only to crate flack and insult against you and another ... i.e. anyone who sees and calls he / she for what he / she is .Quote
Flame and ego boosting was the name of the game from the moment it showed up
Why do I always see through this shit?
She's an Aussie. That seems to be their greeting format :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:42:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:42:36 AM
It's because I'm a bible believing christain, that I don't believe in force. Or bashing.I never claimed to be Christian and honestly, I can't believe you have the nerve to do it either.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:43:15 AM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:43:15 AM
true enough. We have other examplesShe's an Aussie. That seems to be their greeting format :)Quote
except moi of course
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:48:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 04:48:14 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:57:27 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:57:27 AM
There. I said it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:59:55 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:59:55 AM
I never claimed to be Christian and honestly, I can't believe you have the nerve to do it either.Quote from: "RW"
No, you believe in maintaining a status quo and letting the authorities deliver the force and bashings on your behalf while pretending to accept other ways, thoughts, religions, whatnot. It's actually cowardice and very disingenuous.
Oh fuck. Quit using Jesus as an excuse for being a cunt to other people.Quote from: "RW"
There. I said it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:02:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:02:45 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:03:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:03:38 AM
Oh, I do? Thank you for informing me. What color panties am I wearing right now?I never claimed to be Christian and honestly, I can't believe you have the nerve to do it either.Quote from: "RW"
No, you believe in maintaining a status quo and letting the authorities deliver the force and bashings on your behalf while pretending to accept other ways, thoughts, religions, whatnot. It's actually cowardice and very disingenuous.Oh fuck. Quit using Jesus as an excuse for being a cunt to other people.Quote from: "RW"
There. I said it.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:11:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:11:02 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 05:24:14 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 05:24:14 AM
Listen here, I don't think anyone should be excluded from freedom. No one should be forced into an event that offends their sincerely held beliefs. Period. Not even you. This is what you can't seem to grasp.Quote from: "Dove"
I grasp it just fine. What I can't get behind is people who call themselves Christians who don't actually follow the teachings of the Bible inventing bullshit to justify discriminating against others.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:41:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:41:32 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 05:44:04 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 05:44:04 AM
I actually believe in anarchy. I think I've been pretty vocal in my mistrust with government. DD, you however were agreeing the other day that what was done to the christain bakers was unjust. Now you are on the bandwagon . Cowardice? Lol.Quote from: "Dove"
You mistrust government to the extent that they might repeal a number of your religious railroaded morality rules you force on others who don't even share your point of view. I'm first and foremost on board with freedom of thought and particularly, freedom of action. That goes with the bakers as much as it does the odd nude marcher at Pride events. I do however draw the line at food, water, shelter, etcetera. Bakers can defer from writing same sex names with icing sugar and not mounting the figurine on the cake while still selling an otherwise perfectly baked wedding cake. They can even include them with instructions in a small accompanying box.
Nudists have no recourse when you shrilly squeak "public nuditeasze!" because unlike the bakers, you didn't have the good sense to heed a warning and make alternative arrangements in those odd circumstances.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 05:55:37 AM
You don't even understand the teachings of the bible. I've taken you to school on this at least three times, and even Fash stepped in and told you. Of course, deflect this anyway you want. I've made several valid points while all you do is resort to personal attacks. I rest my case.Quote from: "Dove"
Fash has yet to correct me.
I'm sorry if I don't get all excited about hiding behind Jesus to suit discrimination and intolerance. It's just not my bag baby.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:57:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 05:57:53 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:01:20 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:01:20 AM
She corrected you in this thread. And dear, you are perfectly displaying intolerance right now. You aren't even having a mature dialog about this.Quote from: "Dove"
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Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:10:59 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:10:59 AM
She corrected you in this thread. And dear, you are perfectly displaying intolerance right now. You aren't even having a mature dialog about this.Quote from: "Dove"
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Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:29:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:29:42 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 06:30:08 AM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 06:30:08 AM
She corrected you in this thread. And dear, you are perfectly displaying intolerance right now. You aren't even having a mature dialog about this.Quote from: "Dove"
I'm intolerant because I don't believe in bullshitting your way to intolerance?
Hahaha
YOU are intolerant and no amount of trying to throw it back on me will change that. Sorry.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:36:49 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 06:36:49 AM
If it's directed at her, it MUST include you. LolQuote from: "Dove"
I'm just here at this point to showcase your lack of mature dialogue as you insist others are the guilty parties.
Truthseeker!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:40:51 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 06:40:51 AM
Reaching pretty hard, coming off desperate....not really doing much.If it's directed at her, it MUST include you. LolQuote from: "Dove"
I'm just here at this point to showcase your lack of mature dialogue as you insist others are the guilty parties.
Truthseeker!ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 07:11:09 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 07:11:09 AM
She corrected you in this thread. And dear, you are perfectly displaying intolerance right now. You aren't even having a mature dialog about this.Quote from: "Dove"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i58.tinypic.com/i4g0mg.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i58.tinypic.com/i4g0mg.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
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She corrected you in this thread. And dear, you are perfectly displaying intolerance right now. You aren't even having a mature dialog about this.Quote from: "Dove"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i59.tinypic.com/1zlumtt.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i59.tinypic.com/1zlumtt.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
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If it's directed at her, it MUST include you. LolQuote from: "Dove"
I'm just here at this point to showcase your lack of mature dialogue as you insist others are the guilty parties.
Truthseeker!ac_biggrin
You definitely are.
Because I believe that EVERYONE has a right to believe and live the way they wish? Yanno, you are beyond reasoning with. You are so pitifully biased that you don't even see how hypocritical your statements are.Quote from: "Dove"
Demonstrate then. Demonstrate how you'll afford Pride March attendees a bit of self determination for 1-3 hours per year to day-march in their birthday suits because they have a "right to believe and live the way they wish". The vast majority don't even do it now and for their own reasons wouldn't do so even if a bunch of self entitled religious people stopped crowing about it and calling anyone else besides themselves "intolerant".
I don't expect to change your mind. It doesn't matter one iota if you agree or disagree and in fact, I support your right to agree or disagree to the fullest extent and well beyond what's currently permissible by law, that includes action as long as such action follow the basic rules of human interaction (murder, rape, theft, slavery, and no George Carlin comedy haters, etcetera). These are rules that no religion, nationalism, or philosophy has ever been able to truly twist in their favor because they're intuitive and don't rely on institutions for validation.
You say you believe in anarchy? All I've seen you suggest is that you don't mind piggybacking on anarchy when and where it suits your agenda. A real anarchist wouldn't necessarily drag their children to a parade full of willies and nipples but they wouldn't try to stop it by invoking public decency laws or some unsupported grassroots moral code.
Live by your shield or die on it, Dove. You can't cherry pick. Just learn to live your own life and not other peoples for them. Mmmkay?
I'm turning the snarky back on now, unless you work out how to
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:20:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:20:21 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:23:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:23:34 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 07:36:16 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 07:36:16 AM
Do what you will but harm none. I'll do what I will but harm none.
Christians can do their weekend day parades every week, I won't object for all 52 weeks per year. LBGT's can do their nude walk once day out of 365 days per year but only for a few hours tops, and you won't say shit about it?
That's it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 07:59:52 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 07:59:52 AM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I didn't know opposition to discrimination was a leftist issue.
Is it really religious intolerance if people warp the good word to suit their stupidity?
I'm curious, exactly what "good word" are these bigoted Christians warping? I'm no holy roller but I'll tell you right now, the Old Testament doesn't approve of buggery and to my knowledge neither did Christ or the Apostles. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Christ couldn't even handle seeing money lenders in the temple, he practically started a riot getting rid of them. Do you really think he would of approved of men fucking other men in the ass? Get some perspective FFS. For you hypocrite nonbelievers everything in the Bible cannot be twisted to suit your political agenda, especially when you spit on it in the first place so fucking deal with it.
One thing I do know is bullying when I see it and you rabid gay agenda supporters are guilty of it in spades.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 08:14:37 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 08:14:37 AM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I didn't know opposition to discrimination was a leftist issue.
Is it really religious intolerance if people warp the good word to suit their stupidity?
I'm curious, exactly what "good word" are these bigoted Christians warping? I'm no holy roller but I'll tell you right now, the Old Testament doesn't approve of buggery and to my knowledge neither did Christ or the Apostles. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Christ couldn't even handle seeing money lenders in the temple, he practically started a riot getting rid of them. Do you really think he would of approved of men fucking other men in the ass? Get some perspective FFS. For you hypocrite nonbelievers everything in the Bible cannot be twisted to suit your political agenda, especially when you spit on it in the first place so fucking deal with it.
One thing I do know is bullying when I see it and you rabid gay agenda supporters are guilty of it in spades.
Rabid gay supporters have more power than rabid religious people?
When did this happen?
I'm doing my best to not descend into outright insult or baiting but feel it's imperative that I ask a particular question:
Did your parents taste the god cock and insist you sample it too, or did you come to the god cock later in life and think, "that's so mindlessly tasty, I simply can't put it down! It sates all my fears and personal blackholes."?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:18:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:18:01 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: keeper on July 14, 2015, 08:21:35 AM
Post by: keeper on July 14, 2015, 08:21:35 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 08:52:59 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 08:52:59 AM
Are you drunk? Wow. That was truly uncouth. And you wonder why so many people find this mentality repulsive.Quote from: "Dove"
So many people, again?
You have the benefit of tricking your politicians, now and present, into doing your bidding. Now that your politicians are beginning to consider other points of view, it's suddenly repulsive to you? Grow the hell up. Some whores, drug addicts, and bisexuals see no problem with their ways of life if they don't affect anyone else.
You are not tolerant of other ways. You are in fact a true apologetic hypocrite and turd on the timeline of humanity because you suck the jesus penis now. Far be it for me to tell you that you can't do it. Return the favor and don't push your cloud god cocksucking onto people who think, like me, that you're a bag of crazy hypocritical bat shit.
By the way, please stop knocking on my forum door. I've done more than enough to indicate that religious door knockers are not welcome. Continue the way you're doing and I might just garote you before you feebly attempt to knock again on my closed door.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 09:24:40 AM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 09:24:40 AM
I think it's time you go sleep it off. Or better yet, stop typing your psychopathic drivel and irrational hatred at strangers on the net and get therapy. You are NOT mentally stable.Quote from: "Dove"
You believe in cloud gods.
I really don't care what you think, reality cop-out.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 01:05:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 01:05:54 PM
They deserve it.Quote from: "RW"
NO they don't. Enough with your far left bullying.
Your kind are all the same. You preach tolerance but only when it fits YOUR agenda. Once again we are witness to the left's special brand of hypocrisy.
I didn't know opposition to discrimination was a leftist issue.
Is it really religious intolerance if people warp the good word to suit their stupidity?
I'm curious, exactly what "good word" are these bigoted Christians warping? I'm no holy roller but I'll tell you right now, the Old Testament doesn't approve of buggery and to my knowledge neither did Christ or the Apostles. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Christ couldn't even handle seeing money lenders in the temple, he practically started a riot getting rid of them. Do you really think he would of approved of men fucking other men in the ass? Get some perspective FFS. For you hypocrite nonbelievers everything in the Bible cannot be twisted to suit your political agenda, especially when you spit on it in the first place so fucking deal with it.
One thing I do know is bullying when I see it and you rabid gay agenda supporters are guilty of it in spades.
I already answered that Wulf and who said I was a "non-believer"? I have never said I didn't believe in God or Jesus.
Jesus didn't like greed. He didn't approve of the perversion of a holy place in the name of it either.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
I don't believe for one second that Jesus would approve in the discrimination of gay people. It's time to stop using religion as an excuse for treating others like shit.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
:2r4ml1j_th: is god cockac_wot
She's not right, don't question it.
When you sit in vigil at a death bed day in and day out it fucks with your head. For many people the trauma of such shit will cause them to either become a religious nut-job or they end up subscribing to nihilism. It's not hard to see which way that puerile and arrogant cunt went.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
One often sees this extent of obsession in atheists that are unsure of themselves and have to keep running by putting down religion 24/7 using as much nastiness as is allowed. They are quite common and quite predictable
They can't stop themselves from doing it .... like as though the devil makes them do it
Cue Geraldine .. the devil made me do it
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
Good point but I have a feeling this one was born nasty.Quote from: "cc la femme"
One often sees this extent of obsession in atheists that are unsure of themselves and have to keep running by putting down religion 24/7 using as much nastiness as is allowed. They are quite common and quite predictable
They can't stop themselves from doing it .... like as though the devil makes them do itac_smile
Cue Geraldine .. the devil made me do it
How can an atheist be unsure of themselves? An atheist by definition doesn't have any beliefs about life or the further afterlife (if it even exists).
However, religious nutters DO have beliefs about the afterlife before they even hit it.
Who can't stop themselves from doing it?
You're just as sick in the head as Dove is, CC.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
Yet another obsession-driven tired old lazy copout coming 1 .. 2.... 3....
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
I already answered that Wulf and who said I was a "non-believer"? I have never said I didn't believe in God or Jesus.
Jesus didn't like greed. He didn't approve of the perversion of a holy place in the name of it either.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."I don't believe for one second that Jesus would approve in the discrimination of gay people.It's time to stop using religion as an excuse for treating others like shit.
I don't know how Christ felt about it. I wasn't there and I never met the guy. Neither did you I have to assume.
But one of his apostles (Paul) had this to say. That is if you believe the following are his actual words.
"The apostle Paul, in one of his letters to the Corinthians, wrote the verses most often quoted on this subject:"
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)"
"This verse has been translated in as many different ways as there are different versions of the Bible, so we have to look at the original Greek to see what Paul was really saying. The word translated here as "male prostitute" is the Greek word malakos which literally means "soft to the touch." However, it was used metaphorically to refer to a catamite (a boy kept for sexual relations with a man) or to a male prostitute in general. The word translated here as "homosexual offender" is the Greek word arsenokoites which means a sodomite, a person who engages in any kind of unnatural sex, but especially homosexual intercourse5. Some believe this use of arsenokoites referred specifically to the men who kept catamites6, but that is not certain."
"There are two other New Testament mentions of homosexual acts, in Romans 1:25-27 and 1 Timothy 1:8-10. In this passage from Romans, again in the context of idolatry, Paul mentions women who "exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones." This is the only mention of lesbian acts:"
"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-- who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (NIV, Romans 1:25-27)"
Believe what you want, it's your interpretation. In light of the above passages I will form my opinion on the basis of logical deduction. When a supposed follower of Christ such as Paul refers to homosexual relations as unnatural I'm inclined to think JC would not have approved of it's practice. Call me crazy.
But the reality is......who gives a shit if he did or not approve, he died 2000 years ago. It's the modern dogma that Christians are more or less obligated to live by.
Hell, Christ wasn't even a Christian; he was a Jew. The Christian sect sprung up after his death and they adopted the teachings of Christ that suited their needs best. If homosexuality was left out in the cold, well......tough shit. Everyone doesn't get picked for the team because that's just how the ball rolls.
You can argue the point on both sides until the cows come home but who is right and who is wrong is simply a matter of opinion. The only thing I know it that here in the US the Constitution affords the INDIVIDUAL the right to religious expression and if he or she doesn't want to accept gay marriage on the basis of religious conviction, there is nothing you can do about it.
That's one of the areas where the recent SCOTUS ruling gets it wrong. It allows for religious organizations to abstain from sanctioning gay marriage but it forces it onto the individual. Unfortunately for our activist bench, the Constitution was expressly written to protect the rights of the individual. The wildly broad interpretation that claims that the 14th Amendment extends to state marriage laws is in direct conflict with the 1st Amendment which makes the ruling unconstitutional. Our supreme court has once again caved to political agenda and the dangers of social engineering. Simply put; 5 justices waved a magic wand and made up a law based on the whim of special interest groups and in the process, displaced and trampled constitutional law.
Now what does this have to do with what Christ believed?.......NOTHING. It's simply an illustration of how much of a dog and pony show the whole argument of legalized gay marriage actually is.
That's the last I will be saying on this subject because it's a idiot's argument.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Post by: Frood on July 14, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:58:35 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 04:58:35 PM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.:laugh:
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
I guess all that assumption comes from being stupid enough to assign character traits to people based on your worthless reading comprehension.
A word of advice; and I strongly suggest you take it. Don't fuck with people who are your intellectual superiors. You tried it with the chief inspector and got your ass handed to you so badly that you went crawling over to VF to lick your wounds. If you think you got your ass handed to you by the....kindly old gent, then you don't even want to tangle with me. You'll only end up crying like the weak ass pretender that I know you are.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 05:10:26 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 14, 2015, 05:10:26 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that.Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
I know you are smarter than that. Don't be as dumb as dingus or Romero. You know damn well that Constitutional law has NOTHING to do with the "religious right". At least I hope you do.
BTW, asking for an example of Christs alleged discrimination against people based on religious doctrine or any other info we have on the man is a fools request. We don't even know how accurate the portrayal of Christ is in the Bible. It was written after his death by people with a religious and political agenda. For all intents and purposes it's a work of fiction that for various emotional and spiritual reasons some people chose to believe as truth. For all we really know the man could of had multiple wives, bad breath and had a habit of kicking his dog when he was pissed off. He could have been a total dick and his goodness could be nothing but a work of propaganda.
The whole issue of Christs approval or disapproval is a circus performed for idiots.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Romero on July 14, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
Post by: Romero on July 14, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
Christ couldn't even handle seeing money lenders in the temple, he practically started a riot getting rid of them. Do you really think he would of approved of men fucking other men in the ass? Get some perspective FFS. For you hypocrite nonbelievers everything in the Bible cannot be twisted to suit your political agenda, especially when you spit on it in the first place so fucking deal with it.Quote from: "Wulf"
We don't even know how accurate the portrayal of Christ is in the Bible. It was written after his death by people with a religious and political agenda. For all intents and purposes it's a work of fiction that for various emotional and spiritual reasons some people chose to believe as truth.Quote from: "Wulf"
???
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that.Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
I know you are smarter than that. Don't be as dumb as dingus or Romero. You know damn well that Constitutional law has NOTHING to do with the "religious right". At least I hope you do.
BTW, asking for an example of Christs alleged discrimination against people based on religious doctrine or any other info we have on the man is a fools request. We don't even know how accurate the portrayal of Christ is in the Bible. It was written after his death by people with a religious and political agenda. For all intents and purposes it's a work of fiction that for various emotional and spiritual reasons some people chose to believe as truth. For all we really know the man could of had multiple wives, bad breath and had a habit of kicking his dog when he was pissed off. He could have been a total dick and his goodness could be nothing but a work of propaganda.:laugh3:
The whole issue of Christs approval or disapproval is a circus performed for idiots.
I know in my country religion has less and less influence on law but I don't know that about your country, especially when reading references to God in Supreme Court decisions.
But Christians believe in the good word. It's just a shame how selective they are with their passages especially when it means treating others poorly. The acronym is WWJD (what would Jesus do). I don't believe Jesus would discriminate against gays. I think he would treat them well by showing them the love and grace of God.
Don't forget Wulf, I'm not an atheist. I'm familiar with the teachings of the church. Let's operate on that level okay?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:08:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:08:44 PM
The whole issue of Christs approval or disapproval is a circus performed for idiots.
By idiots.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:10:17 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:10:17 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
An atheist or an idiot.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:13:24 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:13:24 PM
Well, which one are you?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
An atheist or an idiot.
I'm agnostic.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Some may argue that it's the refuge of those too frightened to admit there is no God, yet too smart to believe the nonsense his salesmen spout.
You are a person of fact. Where is there one SINGLE fact that supports the existence of an omnipotent, benevolent (hahahahaha) and even remotely caring deity? Just ONE.
The closest you can get is this person called "Jesus".
Where is the evidence that HE existed? As just one example...there was no such place called Gallilee.
Agnostics want a bet each way...and lose on both counts.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:25:14 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 07:25:14 PM
I believe the "invention" of deities are a human condition. Many different cultures have a God or Gods - ones that weren't even connected. Every form of earlier civilisation had a worship structure of some sort. Why?
I won't lie. I am often comforted by the thought of God in times of trouble. Maybe he exists and maybe he doesn't - I don't know. Do I think he's some dude in the sky reigning down with good will and terror alike? No. Did a guy named Jesus exist - I don't know but in the story called the Bible, he sounds like an all right guy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:53:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 07:53:05 PM
But most people understand that the character is fiction, and its the conduct, spirit and actions of the character we relate to.
Religion wants its devotees to belief in its characters as REAL, and thus suborn themselves to these fictional deities.
Jesus may have been an alright guy, although he screwed around with whores and his father wasn't his real father ("Honest, Joe...I have no idea who this happened...there's been nobody else but you!!!").
Religion as a guidebook is OK. As a lifestyle, it has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
And that is perfectly fine. We all enjoy certain fictitious characters. Indeed, some inspire us.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
But most people understand that the character is fiction, and its the conduct, spirit and actions of the character we relate to.
Religion wants its devotees to belief in its characters as REAL, and thus suborn themselves to these fictional deities.
Jesus may have been an alright guy, although he screwed around with whores and his father wasn't his real father ("Honest, Joe...I have no idea who this happened...there's been nobody else but you!!!").
Religion as a guidebook is OK. As a lifestyle, it has a lot to answer for.
You won't get much argument from me on any of those points.
(Mary was a virgin when God mixed her egg into his Jesus baby batter btw)
The thing is, if you want to do the Christian thing, you kinda gotta follow the teachings of Christ. Many "Christian" people don't do that which makes them disgusting hypocrites. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:13:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:13:50 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:33:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:33:35 PM
Rw, you can't even point out the discrimination because there IS NONE. And you keep grabbing scriptures out of context. Christ did not, ever once, support sin. His words, everytime, we're "go and sin no more". He outlined in Matthew the parameters for marriage. It's not just gay marriage either, it's also fornication and adultry. Believe what you want, I believe the bible and I have a right to.Quote from: "Dove"
I'm not challenging your right to believe in the Bible. But you've really only addressed one quote of my three provided. Where does it say in the bible you should not offer services to gay people? Where does it say it is your job to judge the sins of others? Where does it say you will be punished for fornication and adultery (wtf?) if you do catering for a gay marriage? Where does it say you should avoid gay people when doing business? Where does it say to discriminate against others based on your religious beliefs?
The Bible I've read says "let he without sin cast the first sin", "judge not lest ye be judged", and "God doesn't show favouritism". Now you can dance around it however you like, but the truth is, discrimination isn't promoted in the Bible so why would you promote it in your life when you claim you follow the good word?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:55:21 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:55:21 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
Didn't I already Matthew 7 to you? Matthew 7....if you actually read past verse 1, isn't telling us NOT to judge. It's instructing us on HOW to judge. You do realize that if Jesus taught zero judgement...what a mess that would be to apply? You wouldn't even be right to judge your own actions as sinful or not. No where in my post did I say if you cater a gay wedding you'll be punished for fornication. I'm telling you, Christ spoke about sexual sin as any sex outside of God instituted marriage. Discrimination was the fake hateful paramedic who denied medical attention to a homosexual. It's not a 70 year old Christian florist who served a gay man for years before politely denying her services for his homosexual wedding and giving him referrals to florists who would.Quote from: "Dove"
I'm talking about you and your comment about not catering gay weddings and how your discrimination would drive you out of business. I've made that clear several times now.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 08:57:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 08:57:01 PM
It is, if I am not very much in error, a chronicle of God's work in creating heaven and earth, and the historical journey of his early human creations.
It is written by humans, from memory, hearsay, legend and myth. Some of it written some hundreds of years after the events it portrays.
Why, then, is it regarded as "God's Word"? He didn't write it. In fact, he probably wasn't even consulted. So why is it so sacred?
Why does it suddenly stop chronicling around the time of Jesus' death? Did God's work finalise, then, and all other events since are unimportant?
I would have thought that many events since the death of Jesus would warrant an entry, at least. The Crusades. The Pope. The several anti-Christs. Nostradamus.
Lots of interesting things have happened since its last publication. Why isn't it updated?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:57:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:57:32 PM
We are instructed to not support sin. I don't understand why you can't understand that.Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 08:58:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 08:58:08 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:58:25 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 08:58:25 PM
Speaking of the bible...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
It is, if I am not very much in error, a chronicle of God's work in creating heaven and earth, and the historical journey of his early human creations.
It is written by humans, from memory, hearsay, legend and myth. Some of it written some hundreds of years after the events it portrays.
Why, then, is it regarded as "God's Word"? He didn't write it. In fact, he probably wasn't even consulted. So why is it so sacred?
Why does it suddenly stop chronicling around the time of Jesus' death? Did God's work finalise, then, and all other events since are unimportant?
I would have thought that many events since the death of Jesus would warrant an entry, at least. The Crusades. The Pope. The several anti-Christs. Nostradamus.
Lots of interesting things have happened since its last publication. Why isn't it updated?
God worked through the writers and translators. :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
because all those things "new things"....we're actually already put in the bible. There is no need for an update. They were foretold in scripture.Speaking of the bible...Quote from: "SPECTRE"
It is, if I am not very much in error, a chronicle of God's work in creating heaven and earth, and the historical journey of his early human creations.
It is written by humans, from memory, hearsay, legend and myth. Some of it written some hundreds of years after the events it portrays.
Why, then, is it regarded as "God's Word"? He didn't write it. In fact, he probably wasn't even consulted. So why is it so sacred?
Why does it suddenly stop chronicling around the time of Jesus' death? Did God's work finalise, then, and all other events since are unimportant?
I would have thought that many events since the death of Jesus would warrant an entry, at least. The Crusades. The Pope. The several anti-Christs. Nostradamus.
Lots of interesting things have happened since its last publication. Why isn't it updated?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
Is "forgiveness" not the same as "supporting"?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No. What? Forgiveness is not the same as supporting.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:00:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:00:05 PM
But why did he stop?
"Ah, Jesus is dead...that's a good ending. Fuck doing a sequel."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:01:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:01:30 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
If they abstain, absolutely not..
They can become full participating members of the congregation..
But, if they do not repent from a life of sinful indulgence they cannot..
Same applies to unrepentant heterosexuals too..
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:01:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:01:38 PM
What?! It stops when Jesus...who rose from the dead three days after his crucifixion, comes back. The bible keeps going after Christ. You have acts, the record of the first church. You have the epistles and the revelation.Ah.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
But why did he stop?
"Ah, Jesus is dead...that's a good ending. Fuck doing a sequel."
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
Why?
Surely not because human enlightenment reached suck a peak that the fables and stories that support the bible could no longer stand close scrutiny?
Nah, surely not.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
if Jesus was walking the earth today, could you imagine the reaction?Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
If they abstain, absolutely not..
They can become full participating members of the congregation..
But, if they do not repent from a life of sinful indulgence they cannot..
Same applies to unrepentant heterosexuals too..
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:10:31 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:10:31 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
If they abstain, absolutely not..
They can become full participating members of the congregation..
But, if they do not repent from a life of sinful indulgence they cannot..
Same applies to unrepentant heterosexuals too..
How do you know if they have repented or not?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Because Christ comes back. You do know that the Bible ends at the point of the end of this natural world. Alot of the events taking place today were already foretold in scripture.Yes. But it does stop.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Why?
Surely not because human enlightenment reached suck a peak that the fables and stories that support the bible could no longer stand close scrutiny?
Nah, surely not.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
By thier fruit. Homosexuals are welcome in our congregation. But they won't be supported in sin. Nor will a heterosexuals be supported in sin.Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
If they abstain, absolutely not..
They can become full participating members of the congregation..
But, if they do not repent from a life of sinful indulgence they cannot..
Same applies to unrepentant heterosexuals too..
How do you know if they have repented or not?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
I find that a lame excuse. The sinner has a choice. What about accountability? That's such bullshit.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
I agree with that statement which has been said to me as well.
As a person, you do not know the sins of others per se. I bet there are loads of sinners all up in your congregations.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:27:35 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
Show me in the bible where Jesus himself discriminated against people. Then show me how doing so is living the life of Christ. I'll wait.Quote from: "RW"
Your highest court should not bend to the will of the religious right past the defence of freedom of religion and in the case of gay marriage, it just that. Discrimination based on sexual orientation was not warranted. We saw it here in Canada as well. Such a restriction of said freedom was not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I see it no differently than it in the U.S. Your Supreme Court finally caught up with the times.
2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not be unequally yolked with unbelievers..
1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are instructed to abstain from all appearance of evil..
1 Timothy 3:2 says that church elders should be the husband of one wife..
Christians are instructed to be discriminatory because righteousness has no part of wickedness..
But that is for the body of Christ, no such thing is said for secular governments.
So you are instructed to discriminate against gay people?
If they abstain, absolutely not..
They can become full participating members of the congregation..
But, if they do not repent from a life of sinful indulgence they cannot..
Same applies to unrepentant heterosexuals too..
How do you know if they have repented or not?
Ah, trust..
Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 09:38:02 PM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 09:38:02 PM
A woman was arrested Sunday night after refusing to pay her dinner tab at a Myrtle Beach seafood restaurant because, as she explained to police,
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:39:57 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:39:57 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:40:15 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:40:15 PM
A woman was arrested Sunday night after refusing to pay her dinner tab at a Myrtle Beach seafood restaurant because, as she explained to police,Quote from: "cc la femme""Jesus" was going to cover the cost of her meal".(//http)
Oh Lord.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:43:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:43:13 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Post by: cc on July 14, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
In my deepest voice ... Yes??A woman was arrested Sunday night after refusing to pay her dinner tab at a Myrtle Beach seafood restaurant because, as she explained to police,Quote from: "cc la femme""Jesus" was going to cover the cost of her meal".(//http)
Oh Lord.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
See I feel you are intentionally not listening and trying to corner. You are going to see this solely through your own eyes, not ours, not scripture. The bible teaches nonconformity to the world.Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:49:47 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:49:47 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
I'm sorry but I'm not addressing you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:50:55 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:50:55 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:55:51 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 14, 2015, 09:55:51 PM
I wouldn't count loving another human of the same sex as harmful to others or worthy of being called out on.Quote from: "RW"
That is not what I am talking about. I have two siblings who are gay. I have never ever said to them that they must change their ways and become straight. I am not a homophobe. I'm talking about graver sins.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Absolutely not, there is no command to discriminate against sexual sinners in any way..
God will not allow unrepentant sin into Heaven, but there is nothing about employment discrimination.
Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4).
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:58:57 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 09:58:57 PM
Thanks Fash! That's exactly as it was taught to me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
I wouldn't count loving another human of the same sex as harmful to others or worthy of being called out on.Quote from: "RW"
That is not what I am talking about. I have two siblings who are gay. I have never ever said to them that they must change their ways and become straight. I am not a homophobe. I'm talking about graver sins.
I didn't doubt we were on the same page. I agree with you that there are sinners who must be locked up :)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:03:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:03:59 PM
She just manipulated you into agreeing, in her mind, that Christian businesses should be forced to cater to homosexual weddings. That is what she means by judging and discrimination. She isn't talking about employment discrimination, which isn't happening.Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Absolutely not, there is no command to discriminate against sexual sinners in any way..
God will not allow unrepentant sin into Heaven, but there is nothing about employment discrimination.
Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4).
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
A woman was arrested Sunday night after refusing to pay her dinner tab at a Myrtle Beach seafood restaurant because, as she explained to police,Quote from: "cc la femme""Jesus" was going to cover the cost of her meal".(//http)
Oh Lord.
LOL!
Can I have a pony?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:09:24 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:09:24 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:09:39 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:09:39 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Absolutely not, there is no command to discriminate against sexual sinners in any way..
God will not allow unrepentant sin into Heaven, but there is nothing about employment discrimination.
Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4).
Oh it happens. See here in Canada, you can't refuse someone service as a business owner for reasons of sexual orientation. It's a human rights thing.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:10:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:10:43 PM
Yes God will judge - not you or Dove or anyone else.Quote from: "RW"
Thanks Fash! That's exactly as it was taught to me.
Employment is a secular issue, not a church one..
The bible gives instructions for those in the body of Christ to live a Godly life.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
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And that's what I'll tell God should he ever ask me why I've stood up as a witness at a few gay weddings.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Absolutely not, there is no command to discriminate against sexual sinners in any way..
God will not allow unrepentant sin into Heaven, but there is nothing about employment discrimination.
Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4).
Oh it happens. See here in Canada, you can't refuse someone service as a business owner for reasons of sexual orientation. It's a human rights thing.
Its an offence to refuse service to another on the basis of discrimination against race, religion, sexual orientation or culture.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:16:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:16:28 PM
So answer this, how does that apply when it's an EVENT? How is a person refusing service based on sexual. orientation when they have been serving the same homosexual couple for years? Explain that. You still have yet to. I actually agree that you should never discriminate. I also feel you can't force a private business to cater an event that is an affront to their beliefs. There is a HUGE difference here that you are convienatly sweeping under the rug. It's called the First Amendment.Fash, did Jesus preach discrimination?Quote from: "RW"
Do you mean that governments should discriminate against gays, women or ethnic minorities?
Absolutely not..
If you mean did Jesus say that unrepentant sin would not see the kingdom of God, oh yes he did.
Does he say that you as a Christian should discriminate against gay people in the course or your business or your life?
Absolutely not, there is no command to discriminate against sexual sinners in any way..
God will not allow unrepentant sin into Heaven, but there is nothing about employment discrimination.
Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge" (Hebrews 13:4).
Oh it happens. See here in Canada, you can't refuse someone service as a business owner for reasons of sexual orientation. It's a human rights thing.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:22:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:22:01 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:22:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2015, 10:22:21 PM
I also feel you can't force a private business to cater an event that is an affront to their beliefs. There is a HUGE difference here that you are convienatly sweeping under the rug. It's called the First Amendment.Quote from: "Dove"
You can here. It is an offence, plain and simple.
If you bake cakes, anyone who comes into your shop can buy a cake.
Refusal to sell is an offence.
By the way...that First Amendment...it does not apply beyond your borders.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
If you don't want to respect the law around discrimination, then don't go into business.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:25:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:25:29 PM
(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i61.tinypic.com/k3xj60.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i61.tinypic.com/k3xj60.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E) Spec, it's more like this.
Only no one is telling you what to BELIEVE. You're being told that you can't treat people like second rate citizens because they are gay. (Read Animal Farm for details.)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:30:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:30:31 PM
So then private business owners who are black should cater kkk events. Or homosexuals should have to cater Westboro Baptist events. Muslims should be shut down and fined as well. Peoples religious freedom, and free speech, is being robbed.Here, if you refuse to provide a service to someone based on sexual orientation you can be fined. It's against our laws. If your business is catering, and you refuse to cater an event because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law. If you are a florist and you usually provide flowers for a wedding but refuse to do so because the couple is gay, you are discriminating and its against the law.Quote from: "RW"
If you don't want to respect the law around discrimination, then don't go into business.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
Who is doing that?(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i61.tinypic.com/k3xj60.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i61.tinypic.com/k3xj60.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E) Spec, it's more like this.
Only no one is telling you what to BELIEVE. You're being told that you can't treat people like second rate citizens because they are gay. (Read Animal Farm for details.)
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
Post by: RW on July 14, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
You are welcome to your religious freedom as part of your personal beliefs but we are talking about business. If you don't want to serve the general public, go work in a church. You are FREE to do that.
Also, freedom of speech is not without its limits. Best to keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:00:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:00:13 AM
Yes, anyone can come in aND buy a cake. That is different than forcing an AMERICAN, who has protection under first amendment, to tie their private business to events that go directly against their sincerely held beliefs. And these businesses were known Christian businesses. By your logic, the old lady who runs the Christian book store should be forced to take business from a porn publisher. This not about refusing to sell a cake to a homosexual. This is about how the government can step in and dictate YOUR business. Private business. Then gag order you. And why does this only apply to small town private Christian business owners?I also feel you can't force a private business to cater an event that is an affront to their beliefs. There is a HUGE difference here that you are convienatly sweeping under the rug. It's called the First Amendment.Quote from: "Dove"
You can here. It is an offence, plain and simple.
If you bake cakes, anyone who comes into your shop can buy a cake.
Refusal to sell is an offence.
By the way...that First Amendment...it does not apply beyond your borders.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 02:08:35 AM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 02:08:35 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:15:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:15:20 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:21:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:21:02 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:23:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:23:07 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 15, 2015, 02:28:14 AM
Post by: J0E on July 15, 2015, 02:28:14 AM
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And that's what I'll tell God should he ever ask me why I've stood up as a witness at a few gay weddings.
....a bit like this, eh 'Real?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 15, 2015, 02:36:51 AM
Post by: J0E on July 15, 2015, 02:36:51 AM
Religion is protected under our Constitution ....and separation of church and state seems to only go one way right now. And simply because a group is 'protected' doesn't make it right. Politely declining servicing an event you find offensive to your convictions is not discrimination. Denying service to someone because of a personal bias, is wrong. But not wanting to involved in an event? Get real! Weren't you just saying "if you don't like it, don't go"?Quote from: "Dove"
I wonder why Church and State have been determined to be separate in Canada and the US we're no longer able to divide marriage into two different institutions to differentiate between gay and the other for straight. Society is divisible, but one of the institutions fundamental to it is not.
Seems like a contradiction to me.
Another example of political correctness at work, making up the rules for everyone else.
Oh well.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:41:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:41:00 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:42:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 02:42:17 AM
Exactly. There is no more real freedom.Religion is protected under our Constitution ....and separation of church and state seems to only go one way right now. And simply because a group is 'protected' doesn't make it right. Politely declining servicing an event you find offensive to your convictions is not discrimination. Denying service to someone because of a personal bias, is wrong. But not wanting to involved in an event? Get real! Weren't you just saying "if you don't like it, don't go"?Quote from: "Dove"
I wonder why Church and State have been determined to be separate in Canada and the US we're no longer able to divide marriage into two different institutions to differentiate between gay and the other for straight. Society is divisible, but one of the institutions fundamental to it is not.
Seems like a contradiction to me.
Another example of political correctness at work, making up the rules for everyone else.
Oh well.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:21:25 AM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:21:25 AM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.
In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 10:12:59 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 10:12:59 AM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
past it.....right into government regulated everything, right? You can freely express your beliefs and be who you are so long as it's approved. This isn't equality, nor is it moving forward.Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.
In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 15, 2015, 12:32:24 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 15, 2015, 12:32:24 PM
I have scoured the Bible, but nowhere do I see anything about photo radar.Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
When you stick your junk in the faces of little boys are you wearing a ring on it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 15, 2015, 02:51:56 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 15, 2015, 02:51:56 PM
I have scoured the Bible, but nowhere do I see anything about photo radar.Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
When you stick your junk in the faces of little boys are you wearing a ring on it?
That's your fantasy. Not mine.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
It means nothing in the U.S. haha
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:08:05 PM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 05:08:05 PM
I have scoured the Bible, but nowhere do I see anything about photo radar.Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
When you stick your junk in the faces of little boys are you wearing a ring on it?
Aren't you a little new to be insulting our regular members there Chip?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 07:58:53 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 07:58:53 PM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
It means nothing in the U.S. haha
Seriously, that's your answer? If you don't know, just say so.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 08:03:33 PM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 08:03:33 PM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
It means nothing in the U.S. haha
Seriously, that's your answer? If you don't know, just say so.
No not seriously :P
It's your first amendment's limitation to Congress creating laws around religion and the free exercise of it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 15, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
It means nothing in the U.S. haha
Seriously, that's your answer? If you don't know, just say so.
No not seriously :P
It's your first amendment's limitation to Congress creating laws around religion and the free exercise of it.
Nice Google,......Wikipedia?
The phrase "a separation of church and state" is generally credited to Thomas Jefferson and what it means is the government shall not declare an official religion by legislation.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
Post by: RW on July 15, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
But the term separation of church and state has developed a new meaning and you know it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 09:34:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 09:34:30 PM
:laugh3: Look, you know how I feel about the nudity and sex stuff at a pride parade. I shouldn't be forced to attend that under any circumstance, let alone be forced to cater it. People used to have a right to decide what contracts they wanted to enter.Quote from: "Dove"
In other words people should have the right to discriminate. Yeah, see, we're past that as a society. Please catch up.In the U.S., I don't believe there is a separation between church and state.
Do you even know what "the separation between church and state" means in the US?
Most people don't which is evident when they trot out the tired and pseudo constitutional arguments regarding how religion should play no part in government.
It means nothing in the U.S. haha
Seriously, that's your answer? If you don't know, just say so.
No not seriously :P
It's your first amendment's limitation to Congress creating laws around religion and the free exercise of it.
Nice Google,......Wikipedia?
The phrase "a separation of church and state" is generally credited to Thomas Jefferson and what it means is the government shall not declare an official religion by legislation.
That's what I thought too Wulf..
But, it's the state's job to try at least to accommodate diverse lifestyles..
The church's job to uphold the gospel of Jesus Christ..
We can't expect that secular society to accept the church's mission and the state cannot expect us to accept secular values within the church.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
We can't expect that secular society to accept the church's mission and the state cannot expect us to accept secular values within the church.
Yes, it can.
I'm sure you've noticed that religion's grip on society has been severely reduced over the past 50 or 60 years.
When I was a child, simply saying "there is no God" would result in severe punishment...even if those overhearing were not devout.
Religion was a school subject. Attendance required. Prayers mandatory.
Every home had a bible.
Churches were filled to capacity, and attendance on Sunday was a given.
But now, religion has been exposed as a sanctuary for paedophiles, charlatans, manipulators and liars. Fact has overrun fiction.
Consequently, the State will continue to overrule and override religious imperatives. In fact, I would vote for greater removal of religion from society.
Religion-based holidays would be withdrawn.
Religions would have their tax exempt status removed.
Religions who knowingly and willingly harboured paedophiles would be expunged.
Religions who are clearly based on deception and lies, to the extent that they persecute and harass their followers (Scientology, I'm looking at you) will be banned.
Doorknocking and street harassment will be banned.
Religious icons will be confined to churches, and not be displayed in schools or other community centres such as courts or public buildings.
For the truly religious, these measures will have no impact on their faith. For the rest of us, it will allow us to progress and grow as a civilisation.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
We can't expect that secular society to accept the church's mission and the state cannot expect us to accept secular values within the church.
Yes, it can.
I'm sure you've noticed that religion's grip on society has been severely reduced over the past 50 or 60 years.
When I was a child, simply saying "there is no God" would result in severe punishment...even if those overhearing were not devout.
Religion was a school subject. Attendance required. Prayers mandatory.
Every home had a bible.
Churches were filled to capacity, and attendance on Sunday was a given.
But now, religion has been exposed as a sanctuary for paedophiles, charlatans, manipulators and liars. Fact has overrun fiction.
Consequently, the State will continue to overrule and override religious imperatives. In fact, I would vote for greater removal of religion from society.
Religion-based holidays would be withdrawn.
Religions would have their tax exempt status removed.
Religions who knowingly and willingly harboured paedophiles would be expunged.
Religions who are clearly based on deception and lies, to the extent that they persecute and harass their followers (Scientology, I'm looking at you) will be banned.
Doorknocking and street harassment will be banned.
Religious icons will be confined to churches, and not be displayed in schools or other community centres such as courts or public buildings.
For the truly religious, these measures will have no impact on their faith. For the rest of us, it will allow us to progress and grow as a civilisation.
You're talking about societal norms and religion..
Christianity is a relationship with a living God through Jesus Christ, it is not a religion..
The real church will never water down the gospel of Jesus Christ to be accepted by secular society..
Bible believing churches are growing while the mainstream fake churches see empty benches..
If a real church pastor starts to water down the gospel, he will be replaced by a leader with a true faith and the courage of his convictions..
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
Religion must therefore accept it cannot be granted the status it held many years ago. Such is human nature. It has lost trust, and thus the fragile faith it depended on.
Its days are numbered as a pillar of modern society. It has failed us, and cannot be allowed to adopt a position of influence.
Its a shame America has not learned the lesson. They are so insecure they will believe in anything that offers them more.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.:laugh:
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
I guess all that assumption comes from being stupid enough to assign character traits to people based on your worthless reading comprehension.
A word of advice; and I strongly suggest you take it. Don't fuck with people who are your intellectual superiors. You tried it with the chief inspector and got your ass handed to you so badly that you went crawling over to VF to lick your wounds. If you think you got your ass handed to you by the....kindly old gent, then you don't even want to tangle with me. You'll only end up crying like the weak ass pretender that I know you are.
Don't want to tangle with you? someone who believes in a fairy tale?
Oh dear me. However will I survive an exchange with the likes of someone such as yourself?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
That's not true. The real church, the born again body of Christ, sees heresy and apostasy coming miles away. We don't tolerate it. The government doesn't need to give us any status. True converts will take death over conversion or denial of Christ. Just look around the world. They can go ahead and try to force secular values on us...but really whatll happen is we will take prison or death before we accept it. And if it's prison, we will share the gospel with inmates. Force didn't work with the first church in Acts. And it won't work now. So they may as well leave us to it, or go ahead and test us.If only that were true...unfortunately, many religions have not been vigilant in identifying the wolves dressed as sheep.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Religion must therefore accept it cannot be granted the status it held many years ago. Such is human nature. It has lost trust, and thus the fragile faith it depended on.
Its days are numbered as a pillar of modern society. It has failed us, and cannot be allowed to adopt a position of influence.
Its a shame America has not learned the lesson. They are so insecure they will believe in anything that offers them more.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 10:38:15 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 10:38:15 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 10:41:41 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 10:41:41 AM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.:laugh:
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
I guess all that assumption comes from being stupid enough to assign character traits to people based on your worthless reading comprehension.
A word of advice; and I strongly suggest you take it. Don't fuck with people who are your intellectual superiors. You tried it with the chief inspector and got your ass handed to you so badly that you went crawling over to VF to lick your wounds. If you think you got your ass handed to you by the....kindly old gent, then you don't even want to tangle with me. You'll only end up crying like the weak ass pretender that I know you are.
Don't want to tangle with you? someone who believes in a fairy tale?:crazy:
Oh dear me. However will I survive an exchange with the likes of someone such as yourself?
Obviously you write shit just so you can see your blatant idiocy in print. You have all the perception and reading comprehension of an individual living in an alcoholic haze.
What exactly are these "fairy tales" of which you speak? It's my guess that the only "fairy tales" around here are the child like points of view generated in your sub-par intellect. So far you have provided nothing around this place but blather and cheesy insults. By watching your little flame warrior dance thus far, I can accurately assume that you have all the intellectual capacity of a mud turtle. But then again what can we expect from your kind? Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains. I strongly suggest you mull that over during your next 9 AM fosters binge.
BTW, what kind of a moron posts pictures of their child on a public forum known to host a lurking freak who has a fascination with child rape? Keep that shit on Facebook where your own private little circle of mush heads can ooh and aah over your pink sneakered, crumb snatching, sprog. One has to almost feel sorry for a child that has such an irresponsible moron for a mother. Since you read this forum "profusely" before showing your ill begotten self; you should have known better than to do something so ridiculously stupid. Yeah, that's right, I've read a lot of your yammering kangaroo shit going all the way back when you first wafted into this place like a sour fart and I see nothing that tells me that you are anything other than a waste of text space.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 10:49:02 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 10:49:02 AM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.:laugh:
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
I guess all that assumption comes from being stupid enough to assign character traits to people based on your worthless reading comprehension.
A word of advice; and I strongly suggest you take it. Don't fuck with people who are your intellectual superiors. You tried it with the chief inspector and got your ass handed to you so badly that you went crawling over to VF to lick your wounds. If you think you got your ass handed to you by the....kindly old gent, then you don't even want to tangle with me. You'll only end up crying like the weak ass pretender that I know you are.
Don't want to tangle with you? someone who believes in a fairy tale?:crazy:
Oh dear me. However will I survive an exchange with the likes of someone such as yourself?
Obviously you write shit just so you can see your blatant idiocy in print. You have all the perception and reading comprehension of an individual living in an alcoholic haze.
What exactly are these "fairy tales" of which you speak? It's my guess that the only "fairy tales" around here are the child like points of view generated in your sub-par intellect. So far you have provided nothing around this place but blather and cheesy insults. By watching your little flame warrior dance thus far, I can accurately assume that you have all the intellectual capacity of a mud turtle. But then again what can we expect from your kind? Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains. I strongly suggest you mull that over during your next 9 AM fosters binge.
BTW, what kind of a moron posts pictures of their child on a public forum known to host a lurking freak who has a fascination with child rape? Keep that shit on Facebook where your own private little circle of mush heads can ooh and aah over your pink sneakered, crumb snatching, sprog. One has to almost feel sorry for a child that has such an irresponsible moron for a mother. Since you read this forum "profusely" before showing your ill begotten self; you should have known better than to do something so ridiculously stupid. Yeah, that's right, I've read a lot of your yammering kangaroo shit going all the way back when you first wafted into this place like a sour fart and I see nothing that tells me that you are anything other than a waste of text space.
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"Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:13:18 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:13:18 AM
Are you threatening violence because other people not of your faith or any faith at all want to have true social equality and be treated with dignity and respect?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's kind of how I read it too - a little bit of a fundy weirdness.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:16:40 AM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:16:40 AM
I have scoured the Bible, but nowhere do I see anything about photo radar.Quote from: "Gay Boy Bob"
When you stick your junk in the faces of little boys are you wearing a ring on it?
That's your fantasy. Not mine.
Did you just say I know you are but what am I?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Run away, little mind.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
To be honest, it wasn't ever going to be a surprise to me.
If you have nothing to really say then it's best to just STFU and save the energy.
I'm sure a faux intellectual such as yourself has been told that before by smarter people than me so what's all the noise?
I believe the message was quite clear. You and your ilk are mindless religion zombies. You might not have gathered that since you're a mindless religion zombie.:laugh:
/whack/
(Stay down, buddy)
I guess all that assumption comes from being stupid enough to assign character traits to people based on your worthless reading comprehension.
A word of advice; and I strongly suggest you take it. Don't fuck with people who are your intellectual superiors. You tried it with the chief inspector and got your ass handed to you so badly that you went crawling over to VF to lick your wounds. If you think you got your ass handed to you by the....kindly old gent, then you don't even want to tangle with me. You'll only end up crying like the weak ass pretender that I know you are.
Don't want to tangle with you? someone who believes in a fairy tale?:crazy:
Oh dear me. However will I survive an exchange with the likes of someone such as yourself?
Obviously you write shit just so you can see your blatant idiocy in print. You have all the perception and reading comprehension of an individual living in an alcoholic haze.
What exactly are these "fairy tales" of which you speak? It's my guess that the only "fairy tales" around here are the child like points of view generated in your sub-par intellect. So far you have provided nothing around this place but blather and cheesy insults. By watching your little flame warrior dance thus far, I can accurately assume that you have all the intellectual capacity of a mud turtle. But then again what can we expect from your kind? Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains. I strongly suggest you mull that over during your next 9 AM fosters binge.
BTW, what kind of a moron posts pictures of their child on a public forum known to host a lurking freak who has a fascination with child rape? Keep that shit on Facebook where your own private little circle of mush heads can ooh and aah over your pink sneakered, crumb snatching, sprog. One has to almost feel sorry for a child that has such an irresponsible moron for a mother. Since you read this forum "profusely" before showing your ill begotten self; you should have known better than to do something so ridiculously stupid. Yeah, that's right, I've read a lot of your yammering kangaroo shit going all the way back when you first wafted into this place like a sour fart and I see nothing that tells me that you are anything other than a waste of text space.
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"Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains"ac_toofunny
Wow, looky here, another stunted cunt that doesn't know enough when to STFU, what a surprise.
Why don't you try addressing the question I asked you instead of blabbering out your usual nonsense? What's the matter Skippy; you have a fear of gaining some credibility or are you just as fucking inane as most of us know you are?
Don't worry cupcake, you don't have to answer. I already know what you are all about.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:28:32 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:28:32 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
Are you threatening violence because other people not of your faith or any faith at all want to have true social equality and be treated with dignity and respect?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's kind of how I read it too - a little bit of a fundy weirdness.
Maybe she only meant it in the context of religious fundamentalists not getting their way over social policy anymore and threatening to spray paint cross graffiti on Pride March Posters or have priests bless the community water supply in a late night religious black ops?
"Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains"Quote from: "Wulf"
Wow, looky here, another stunted cunt that doesn't know enough when to STFU, what a surprise.:oeudC:
Why don't you try addressing the question I asked you instead of blabbering out your usual nonsense? What's the matter Skippy; you have a fear of gaining some credibility or are you just as fucking inane as most of us know you are?
Don't worry cupcake, you don't have to answer. I already know what you are all about.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:34:43 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:34:43 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Are you threatening violence because other people not of your faith or any faith at all want to have true social equality and be treated with dignity and respect?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That's kind of how I read it too - a little bit of a fundy weirdness.
Maybe she only meant it in the context of religious fundamentalists not getting their way over social policy anymore and threatening to spray paint cross graffiti on Pride March Posters or have priests bless the community water supply in a late night religious black ops?"Arrogance and an inflated sense of self is NOT a substitute for brains"Quote from: "Wulf"
Wow, looky here, another stunted cunt that doesn't know enough when to STFU, what a surprise.:oeudC:
Why don't you try addressing the question I asked you instead of blabbering out your usual nonsense? What's the matter Skippy; you have a fear of gaining some credibility or are you just as fucking inane as most of us know you are?
Don't worry cupcake, you don't have to answer. I already know what you are all about.
ac_toofunny
Got nothin eh?
Well, no consolation prize for you.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:39:46 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:39:46 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
If Dove was Muslim, how would you feel about that comment?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:40:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:40:09 AM
Yeah, that desire to stand by convictions to the point of death...it's what honor is all about. It's that and deeper with followers of Christ. Martyrs have sang hymns to the Lord while being tortured to death. I read about one guy who was being skinned alive for refusing to deny Christ. He was quoted shouting out "Thank you for removing me of my earthly garment, I shall soon put on my new one in Christ". The political religious right isn't the face of the faith. It's a misrepresentation. People have a hard time in western nations separating it from some political thing.Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:41:05 AM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:41:05 AM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
How do you know that? This is the thread that motivated me to register here. I've read all one thousand posts. Some people are not only not alarmed by it, they make excuses for it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:41:36 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:41:36 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
If Dove was Muslim, how would you feel about that comment?
Oh no, you didn't!? lol
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:42:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:42:32 AM
Do evil in the sight of God, for God? Is this a real question?Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:43:46 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:43:46 AM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
How do you know that? This is the thread that motivated me to register here. I've read all one thousand posts. Some people are not only not alarmed by it, they make excuses for it.
If someone at a parade is putting their junk in children's faces, talk to their parents for taking them to said parade. That said, I don't believe people at Pride parades are doing this because they would be arrested if they were.
This is just another pedophile linking to homosexuality. It's not right.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:45:03 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:45:03 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?! Is it really that much of a stretch?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
If you're feuding with another religion (directly or indirectly through the political and military avenues) and neither accept one another, how far would you go?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?! Is it really that much of a stretch?
God also spoke the universe into existence. Can we do that? God is entitled to take life. He is the one who gives it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:50:37 AM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:50:37 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
I have no idea how many times someone has to say the say the same thing to you over and over but I've told you at least ten times that I don't believe in force, violance or killing. Which is why I don't particularly feel obligated to answer ridiculous and repetitive questions to a person who doesn't listen and goes off on vile, hateful tangents, complete with expressing a desire to see me have my throat cut. Why don't you go to rehab and come back when you can think clearly enough not to gross out 90 percent of this board? And I'm not responding to you again.Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
If you're feuding with another religion (directly or indirectly through the political and military avenues) and neither accept one another, how far would you go?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:53:37 AM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 11:53:37 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?
Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?! Is it really that much of a stretch?
God also spoke the universe into existence. Can we do that? God is entitled to take life. He is the one who gives it.
So your god is the one true god and he can take life?
Sounds like a recipe for human on human bloodshed.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:55:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 11:55:43 AM
Yeah but he's been a right prick over the centuries.Quote from: "RW"
Because His creation should be allowed to do whatever they want with zero consequence? Look at the destruction we caused. If God burn this while thing down, He is justified in doing so. And if you read Genesis, he saved humans....and destroyed human/angel hybrids called neplim.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:56:36 AM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 11:56:36 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
But if they aren't doing anyone any harm; what's wrong with it? Only when these people start to interfere with society in detrimental ways is it a problem. Other than that, it is their choice to believe as they wish and it is not our place to judge.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
How do you know that? This is the thread that motivated me to register here. I've read all one thousand posts. Some people are not only not alarmed by it, they make excuses for it.
If someone at a parade is putting their junk in children's faces, talk to their parents for taking them to said parade. That said, I don't believe people at Pride parades are doing this because they would be arrested if they were.
This is just another pedophile linking to homosexuality. It's not right.
That is the problem, the police in too many cities are not doing their jobs. I am not linking pedophilia to homosexuality. I know that exhibitionists represent just one part of the gay community. Many of these exhibitionists that pollute the gay pride celebrations are not even gay. They are heterosexual fetishists there in public view to flaunt themselves on the one day they will likely get away with it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
Yeah but he's been a right prick over the centuries.Quote from: "RW"
Because His creation should be allowed to do whatever they want with zero consequence? Look at the destruction we caused. If God burn this while thing down, He is justified in doing so. And if you read Genesis, he saved humans....and destroyed human/angel hybrids called neplim.
The Nephilim? Weren't they the offspring of rapey Angel giants (or Aliens, depending on who you ask) who blew their baby batter into young human girls? Sounds like a tall tale to me.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 16, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
But if they aren't doing anyone any harm; what's wrong with it? Only when these people start to interfere with society in detrimental ways is it a problem. Other than that, it is their choice to believe as they wish and it is not our place to judge.
That is what I was getting at. I understand fundamentalist places of worship hold a literal view. As I read this thread it seems that some people who are not religious are not willing to accept that. They want these places of worship to exchange their non religious values for what they perceive as dated ones. I don't do that. I don't care if their books say I am going to hell. But, if they want to cut my head off then I would be offended.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
Oh no...He did. He wiped out everything on the planet in the flood. He destroyed Sodom with fire and brimstone. He instructed Israel to slaughter all surrounding nations (pagans). Gods wrath in the OT, was nothing to mess with lol.Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:16:11 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:16:11 PM
Yeah but he's been a right prick over the centuries.Quote from: "RW"
Because His creation should be allowed to do whatever they want with zero consequence? Look at the destruction we caused. If God burn this while thing down, He is justified in doing so. And if you read Genesis, he saved humans....and destroyed human/angel hybrids called neplim.
I have read Genisis. It's one of my favourite chapters in the Bible minus the boring begates section.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:17:25 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Hush now my child. We don't talk poorly of Isreal around here. The A-rab dislikers get huffy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:19:29 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:19:29 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Yeah and he turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, had Noah build an ark, parted the Red Sea and all that shit too.
Believe what you want it's your choice. If you draw spiritual strength from it then that's wonderful but don't wave it in my face.
BTW, where was the city of Sodom? Do we have any proof of it's existence other than Homo Bob being a probable descendant of one of it's inhabitants?
I know the alleged city of Troy and other once thought of as mythical places have been found but I don't recall any archaeological digs for the city of Sodom.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:21:24 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:21:24 PM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
How do you know that? This is the thread that motivated me to register here. I've read all one thousand posts. Some people are not only not alarmed by it, they make excuses for it.
If someone at a parade is putting their junk in children's faces, talk to their parents for taking them to said parade. That said, I don't believe people at Pride parades are doing this because they would be arrested if they were.
This is just another pedophile linking to homosexuality. It's not right.
That is the problem, the police in too many cities are not doing their jobs. I am not linking pedophilia to homosexuality. I know that exhibitionists represent just one part of the gay community. Many of these exhibitionists that pollute the gay pride celebrations are not even gay. They are heterosexual fetishists there in public view to flaunt themselves on the one day they will likely get away with it.
So why are you bugging Gay Boy Bob about it?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Yeah and he turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, had Noah build an ark, parted the Red Sea and all that shit too.
Believe what you want it's your choice. If you draw spiritual strength from it then that's wonderful but don't wave it in my face.
BTW, where was the city of Sodom? Do we have any proof of it's existence other than Homo Bob being a probable ancestor of one of it's inhabitants?:wink:
I know the alleged city of Troy and other once thought of as mythical places have been found but I don't recall any archaeological digs for the city of Sodom.
When God does his flaming, he does it right!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:22:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:22:48 PM
The Lord smacked them around up and down our time line like red headed step children. Lol. I have deep respect for Israel.Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Hush now my child. We don't talk poorly of Isreal around here. The A-rab dislikers get huffy.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
well, God wiped them off the map, like He said He was going to do. So it makes sense we would find almost nothing of them.Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Yeah and he turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, had Noah build an ark, parted the Red Sea and all that shit too.
Believe what you want it's your choice. If you draw spiritual strength from it then that's wonderful but don't wave it in my face.
BTW, where was the city of Sodom? Do we have any proof of it's existence other than Homo Bob being a probable ancestor of one of it's inhabitants?:wink:
I know the alleged city of Troy and other once thought of as mythical places have been found but I don't recall any archaeological digs for the city of Sodom.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:26:58 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:26:58 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
But if they aren't doing anyone any harm; what's wrong with it? Only when these people start to interfere with society in detrimental ways is it a problem. Other than that, it is their choice to believe as they wish and it is not our place to judge.
That is what I was getting at. I understand fundamentalist places of worship hold a literal view. As I read this thread it seems that some people who are not religious are not willing to accept that. They want these places of worship to exchange their non religious values for what they perceive as dated ones. I don't do that.I don't care if their books say I am going to hell. But, if they want to cut my head off then I would be offended. :wink:
I don't care either because that's where I'm going. Besides, Hell sounds like a place that's a lot more interesting than heaven. I just hope I don't have to bunk with my ex-wife.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
Not so much anymore.And now the U.S. holds it to their breast.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.
Would you kill for it? Falsely imprison, fine, or torture for it? Would you steal for it?Have you missed all the killing God himself has done?!?!Is it really that much of a stretch?
Well I did but I think that's because God, who or whatever that is, didn't do it.
Yeah and he turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, had Noah build an ark, parted the Red Sea and all that shit too.
Believe what you want it's your choice. If you draw spiritual strength from it then that's wonderful but don't wave it in my face.
BTW, where was the city of Sodom? Do we have any proof of it's existence other than Homo Bob being a probable descendant of one of it's inhabitants?:wink:
I know the alleged city of Troy and other once thought of as mythical places have been found but I don't recall any archaeological digs for the city of Sodom.
Oh that explains it.
But what purpose would utterly destroying the city serve? If no physical proof of it's destruction was left behind, what lesson to future generations would it's destruction provide? Ultimately over time the lack of physical evidence of it's destruction would relegate the event to myth which is exactly what many people believe it to be.
Seems to me that God made a mistake when he destroyed Sodom utterly. Are you trying to say God is fallible? I don't know if I could ever get behind a God that makes mistakes like that. One might just as well worship deities that exhibit human qualities such as any number of the ancient pagan Gods, if that is indeed the case.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:55:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:55:59 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:59:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 12:59:10 PM
8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord.
9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
Post by: Frood on July 16, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
"My thoughts are higher than your thoughts".Quote from: "Dove"
I don't doubt that.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 01:53:36 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 01:53:36 PM
But now you are judging God. You are using your finite mind to judge an infinite being massively more intlligent and powerful than anything you can conceive of. Thousands upon thousands of people throughout the ages have leaned upon Him. His purpose cant be thwarted. There is enough evidence to support His word without violating the importance of faith. People used to believe the earth was flat, and Isaiahs claim that it was round was proof that God was "fallible". See how that turned out? You may not see or understand God's purpose for some of the things he does...but as He said,Quote from: "Dove""My thoughts are higher than your thoughts".
Ah, so that's God's a boiler plate cover your ass statement. How convenient for God. You do know that many of the pagan Gods had similar mindsets where their motives where their's and their's alone and being so, beyond the ken of mortal men? So would you agree that the Christian God and the pagan Gods that came before him or her or it have similarities? And if so, what makes the Christian God greater; perception in man's mind or is it something more tangible?
I'm not busting balls here, I'm just trying to establish if you have stopped searching for the knowledge of your existence or are you completely content with the answers that the bible provides. It seems to me that once someone stops thinking, questioning, searching they become something less than human.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Why are you thinking that God is somehow accountable to humans? God doesn't need anything "convienant". That was a statement of fact. We don't posses the capabilities of understanding God's ways. It's like an insect understanding our cognitive ability. It's simply not possible. We don't even fully understand God's creation, and we barely grasp the Trinity. We can't do it. We are severely limited. You've gotta come to grips with that, before you even tackle scripture in a serious way. Do you know, that God looks at us as we truly are, our naked core selves? Every thought, every motive, is all laid out in His sight all at once? That He is present in every single existing moment that is now, has been and will be? Take a moment, and try to fathom living in a dimension with no time. Think about that. No time. We can't even grasp His dwelling place. You think He needs to give us an excuse? That He is accountable? You know I actually fought religion, to the point of experiment with all kinds of different beliefs, including the occult. I didn't just up and decide to be a Christain. I had an experience with Him. If you actually study the science laid out in scripture about the workings of the planet and universe, it's hilarious watching it line up. I don't know why nonbelievers think we just stop thinking and exploring simply because we have a structure to look at the world from. If anything, I think it's dangerous to just swallow everything the mainstream tells you no matter how lunatic and hair brained it sounds. Contrary to popular belief, God encourages us to test His word.But now you are judging God. You are using your finite mind to judge an infinite being massively more intlligent and powerful than anything you can conceive of. Thousands upon thousands of people throughout the ages have leaned upon Him. His purpose cant be thwarted. There is enough evidence to support His word without violating the importance of faith. People used to believe the earth was flat, and Isaiahs claim that it was round was proof that God was "fallible". See how that turned out? You may not see or understand God's purpose for some of the things he does...but as He said,Quote from: "Dove""My thoughts are higher than your thoughts".
Ah, so that's God's a boiler plate cover your ass statement. How convenient for God. You do know that many of the pagan Gods had similar mindsets where their motives where their's and their's alone and being so, beyond the ken of mortal men? So would you agree that the Christian God and the pagan Gods that came before him or her or it have similarities? And if so, what makes the Christian God greater; perception in man's mind or is it something more tangible?
I'm not busting balls here, I'm just trying to establish if you have stopped searching for the knowledge of your existence or are you completely content with the answers that the bible provides. It seems to me that once someone stops thinking, questioning, searching they become something less than human.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 16, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
Now if you don't mind, may I ask (if is not too terribly personal); what is your experience with God that makes you so devout in your belief that we cannot seek to understand his or her motives or existence? If we could find the answers we seek wouldn't that bring us closer to him?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2015, 07:31:37 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2015, 07:31:37 PM
I just hope I don't have to bunk with my ex-wife.
That is the whole point of hell!!!
Better change your ways, smartly.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: J0E on July 16, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
Post by: J0E on July 16, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.Quote from: "Dove"
...with the Political Correctoids taking over, expect more of the same...in fact much much more.
With their newfound power (megalomania?) they'll make their presence felt and redefine everything they can get their hands on in your country.
Change the Bible, re-word this, ban that from the school library for bein' homophobic, sue this business, put that one under, sister, you aint seen nothin' yet.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 09:53:05 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 09:53:05 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 09:59:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 09:59:35 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 10:04:17 PM
Post by: RW on July 16, 2015, 10:04:17 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 17, 2015, 05:35:57 AM
Post by: Frood on July 17, 2015, 05:35:57 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Or they're just smarter than your average religious bear.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2015, 07:23:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2015, 07:23:05 AM
I know it. I just watched a video on Facebook of this very sassy homosrxual pastry chef bitching out his community for being bullies. I know you don't believe in the Bible, but these things were touched on. I'm not worried or intimidated. "In this world, ye shall have tribulation, but fear not, I have overcome the world". I'm not fighting these things. I'm trusting God.It is what it is. In other countries, Christians are forced to fellowship and study, and worship and pray in hiding. It won't be any different here if that day comes. A group that will take death over abandoning Christ, won't accept the forceful watering down of their church. That Christian baker isn't going to back down. I understand that the secular world sees us as religious, that's it's mere beliefs we follow. But it's not religion. It's a bond, a strong relationship with our God where we would rather die than give it up or dishonor it.Quote from: "Dove"
...with the Political Correctoids taking over, expect more of the same...in fact much much more.
With their newfound power (megalomania?) they'll make their presence felt and redefine everything they can get their hands on in your country.
Change the Bible, re-word this, ban that from the school library for bein' homophobic, sue this business, put that one under, sister, you aint seen nothin' yet.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 17, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 17, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Or they're just smarter than your average religious bear.
You make intelligent atheists second guess themselves.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 17, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 17, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
No offebse Chip but that's all you're comment warranted in terms of a response.Quote from: "RW"
I'm not offended at all. But then again I am not the one making excuses for sticking my junk in the faces of children. Or worse, the kids that are forced by their sick parents to see that grossness.
I don't think anyone here sticks their junk in children's faces.
How do you know that? This is the thread that motivated me to register here. I've read all one thousand posts. Some people are not only not alarmed by it, they make excuses for it.
If someone at a parade is putting their junk in children's faces, talk to their parents for taking them to said parade. That said, I don't believe people at Pride parades are doing this because they would be arrested if they were.
This is just another pedophile linking to homosexuality. It's not right.
That is the problem, the police in too many cities are not doing their jobs. I am not linking pedophilia to homosexuality. I know that exhibitionists represent just one part of the gay community. Many of these exhibitionists that pollute the gay pride celebrations are not even gay. They are heterosexual fetishists there in public view to flaunt themselves on the one day they will likely get away with it.
So why are you bugging Gay Boy Bob about it?
Everyone should be bugged by the one part of gay pride that has dubious legality.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 17, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 17, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Or they're just smarter than your average religious bear.
I have no doubt they think they are very smart.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2015, 03:47:19 AM
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2015, 03:47:19 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Or they're just smarter than your average religious bear.
You make intelligent atheists second guess themselves.:negative:
Do you make anything besides low grade bait?
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 03:50:33 AM
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 03:50:33 AM
Haha
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2015, 03:51:56 AM
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2015, 03:51:56 AM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 11:39:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 11:39:32 AM
Reread it. A couple times. Slowly, using all my words. It's very clear I said true converts won't be swayed into accepting secular values. They'd accept death and imprisonment first.Quote from: "Dove"
I read what you said. It just had that creepy fundy feel to it is all.
You find it creepy that someone is willing to die or endure imprisonment for their beliefs? .......Interesting.
As I've said previously I'm not a religious individual but I can respect that kind of devotion to an idea or principle. That kind of resolve is not limited to religious belief and it has well served many a person for a variety of principles and issues. Just because you don't share belief in the context of it's application it doesn't make it creepy.
I am not a religious individual either. But if you join a church, synagogue or mosque, especially a fundamentalist one, then you are accepting their literal interpretations of the word.
Why would someone who does not believe care what believers know to be sin?
They don't believer in God or his written word, but they say things like that is not what God meant?
They are contradicting themselves.
And what of people who were once believers and studied the Bible?
Their salvation was false.
Or they're just smarter than your average religious bear.
You make intelligent atheists second guess themselves.:negative:
Do you make anything besides low grade bait?:laugh:
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 18, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 18, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Low grade baiting again!Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You could convert more atheists to faith than Billy Graham.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 18, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 18, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
I don't feel Gay Boy Bob or RW are "sick", but I am sorry to see you go so soon Chip Atkins.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
Pedophiles? I have a big problem with pedophiles - just not imaginary ones.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
I don't feel Gay Boy Bob or RW are "sick", but I am sorry to see you go so soon Chip Atkins.
:sad:
He's just a troll Fash.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 01:03:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 01:03:35 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
I don't feel Gay Boy Bob or RW are "sick", but I am sorry to see you go so soon Chip Atkins.
:sad:
He's just a troll Fash.
I didn't see that..
A strong opinion about one thing, but otherwise he seemed fine..
Anyway, we'll never really know for sure now that he's gone.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 01:05:59 PM
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 01:05:59 PM
If he really goes.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
He came here and the first thing he did was insult Gay Boy Bob. He's no newbie.Quote from: "RW"
If he really goes.
He wouldn't be the first newbie that came here and started insulting right out of the gate..
I didn't like that either, but he seemed to be less hostile after.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 05:19:26 PM
Post by: RW on July 18, 2015, 05:19:26 PM
You. You stay!
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 19, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Post by: Chip Atkins on July 19, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
I'm not.Quote from: "RW"
You and gay bob are not bugged by fetishists and pedophiles using a parade as an opportunity to expose themselves to kids?
You are both very, very sick. I am so out of here.
I don't feel Gay Boy Bob or RW are "sick", but I am sorry to see you go so soon Chip Atkins.
:sad:
Meh, that was yesterday.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: RW on July 19, 2015, 05:18:59 PM
Post by: RW on July 19, 2015, 05:18:59 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Thiel on July 20, 2015, 05:46:22 PM
Post by: Thiel on July 20, 2015, 05:46:22 PM
I know that exhibitionists represent just one part of the gay community. Many of these exhibitionists that pollute the gay pride celebrations are not even gay. They are heterosexual fetishists there in public view to flaunt themselves on the one day they will likely get away with it.Quote
These people do not represent mainstream gays and lesbians. It's unfortunate they get the lion's share of attention at pride parades. We cannot condemn communities for not embracing that part of our festivals. It's time mainstream gays and lesbians distanced ourselves from them.
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 20, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
Title: Re: Gaybook
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2015, 01:32:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2015, 01:32:34 AM
I know that exhibitionists represent just one part of the gay community. Many of these exhibitionists that pollute the gay pride celebrations are not even gay. They are heterosexual fetishists there in public view to flaunt themselves on the one day they will likely get away with it.Quote
These people do not represent mainstream gays and lesbians. It's unfortunate they get the lion's share of attention at pride parades. We cannot condemn communities for not embracing that part of our festivals. It's time mainstream gays and lesbians distanced ourselves from them.
Hello Jimmy LaSalvia and welcome..