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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 09:41:28 PM

Title: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Yesterday, Australia was devastated by the murder of a coach of one of the leading Australian Football League teams...the Adelaide Crows.



Phil Walsh was stabbed to death by his son in the early hours of the morning, after a domestic confrontation.



http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/07/04/walsh-honoured-with-giant-afl-huddle.html



He had been involved in football most of his life, and held coaching or support positions in 7 of the 18 clubs that form the premier competition of our national sport. He was an obsessive mentor and leader, proclaiming football was his life. He worked tirelessly for many hours a week to assist in the success of his chosen team. He was an inspiration to his players, guiding and advising them, giving them help and support in their sporting career.



Yet, by his own admission, he became distant from his own son.



The why's and wherefore's of their tragic altercation remains unknown, but what is becoming clear is that Phil Walsh spent too much time on his profession, and not enough time with his family, who had to move three times to different states when he changed clubs.



Was his success worth it?



By any measure, it was not.



The message is clear...as if we needed a reminder...if you wish to be successful in a time consuming and demanding field, to become wealthy, powerful, revered and admired, think carefully about becoming a parent.



All too often we are reminded that in many, if not most cases, the two are incompatible.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 10:53:51 PM
Balancing a demanding career and parenting does not usually end well.  I feel for this family as I can relate.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2015, 11:13:40 PM
Me too.



It hits home rather hard.



There, but for the grace of god...
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:14:34 PM
Yeah thanks for touching that nerve :P
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 11:22:03 PM
Quote from: "RW"Balancing a demanding career and parenting does not usually end well.  I feel for this family as I can relate.

I don't see why it cannot if the parents work at both..



I am not talking from personal experience as I only have a job, not a successful career.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 03, 2015, 11:23:28 PM
My dad left when I was young to pursuit his career which was extremely successful.  I rarely saw him growing up.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
Quote from: "RW"My dad left when I was young to pursuit his career which was extremely successful.  I rarely saw him growing up.

That must have been traumatic for you RW..



But, our doctor is very successful both with career and family, so it is possible.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:22:34 AM
I'm happy for your doctor.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: "RW"I'm happy for your doctor.

I am too, but my doctor is not alone in having career and family success.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 12:25:38 AM
I'm happy for all of those people.  I know many who don't.  Maybe we could hook our people up so they can learn from each other.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Bricktop on July 04, 2015, 01:03:53 AM
There are no doubt some success stories...although fewer than you might think...but there are far too many tragedies.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 03:36:04 AM
It all depends on your definition of sucess. I was raised in poverty by my grandmother. So to me....success is contentment under any circumstance. I think people generally set these standards for themselves and sacrifice what's truly important in meeting those standards.  Life requires balance.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 03:52:07 AM
Success is measured differently by every person.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 07:09:54 AM
My mother raised 5 children while my father was out working his ass off, its just how it was back then. I was the youngest and didn't really understand why dad wasn't home.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Quote from: "Dove"It all depends on your definition of sucess. I was raised in poverty by my grandmother. So to me....success is contentment under any circumstance. I think people generally set these standards for themselves and sacrifice what's truly important in meeting those standards.  Life requires balance.

We have a similar outlook Dove because that is how I see success..



Than again, if I had a career instead of a job, maybe I would have a different opinion.

 ac_umm
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dove"It all depends on your definition of sucess. I was raised in poverty by my grandmother. So to me....success is contentment under any circumstance. I think people generally set these standards for themselves and sacrifice what's truly important in meeting those standards.  Life requires balance.

We have a similar outlook Dove because that is how I see success..



Than again, if I had a career instead of a job, maybe I would have a different opinion.

 ac_umm
 If you are in the faith you "know the secret to contentment in any situation ,  to living in prosperity and in poverty, with a full stomach or empty one, for you can do all things through Christ who gives you strength".  Paul wrote that in a prison cell.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 04, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"My mother raised 5 children while my father was out working his ass off, its just how it was back then. I was the youngest and didn't really understand why dad wasn't home.

Did your dad come home at the end of the day?
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Frood on July 04, 2015, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"There are no doubt some success stories...although fewer than you might think...but there are far too many tragedies.


It's a hard slog keeping a career and family well balanced.


Quote from: "Dove"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dove"It all depends on your definition of sucess. I was raised in poverty by my grandmother. So to me....success is contentment under any circumstance. I think people generally set these standards for themselves and sacrifice what's truly important in meeting those standards.  Life requires balance.

We have a similar outlook Dove because that is how I see success..



Than again, if I had a career instead of a job, maybe I would have a different opinion.

 ac_umm
 If you are in the faith you "know the secret to contentment in any situation ,  to living in prosperity and in poverty, with a full stomach or empty one, for you can do all things through Christ who gives you strength".  Paul wrote that in a prison cell.


 :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: keeper on July 04, 2015, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Keeper"My mother raised 5 children while my father was out working his ass off, its just how it was back then. I was the youngest and didn't really understand why dad wasn't home.

Did your dad come home at the end of the day?


I didnt see him for months at a time. My mom had my Aunt living with us and her 2 kids, it was a nut house omg RW
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2015, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: "Dove"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dove"It all depends on your definition of sucess. I was raised in poverty by my grandmother. So to me....success is contentment under any circumstance. I think people generally set these standards for themselves and sacrifice what's truly important in meeting those standards.  Life requires balance.

We have a similar outlook Dove because that is how I see success..



Than again, if I had a career instead of a job, maybe I would have a different opinion.

 ac_umm
 If you are in the faith you "know the secret to contentment in any situation ,  to living in prosperity and in poverty, with a full stomach or empty one, for you can do all things through Christ who gives you strength".  Paul wrote that in a prison cell.

For me, there is only one way to contentment in any situation..



If I had a career instead of a job, that would not change.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Yes, you can have it all. It takes fucking work though.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: Anonymous on July 06, 2015, 05:38:29 PM
Quote from: "RW"Success is measured differently by every person.

True enough. Since I am single, I cannot say if it is possible to balance a hectic career with raising kiddies. Those people that are able to find that right balancing act are unsung heroes.
Title: Re: Can success and parenthood co-exist?
Post by: RW on July 06, 2015, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Yes, you can have it all. It takes fucking work though.

I think once you add constant travel into the mix it becomes damn near impossible.