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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: RW on July 07, 2015, 07:53:46 PM

Title: Racism
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
I am seriously fed up with what people deem to be "racist" these days.  It's time to stand up to the stupidity and stop allowing people to paint anything that is stereotypical, observatory, impressionistic, or just curiousity as racism.



Racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another and the discriminatory practices contained within belief.  What it isn't is doing an impression of a Chinese person talking.  It's not asking a black women how she manages her hair.  It's not saying East Indian people smell like curry.  It's not a white person dressing up like a black person for Halloween including brown face paint. It's not even saying natives have a problem with alcohol.



This need to paint everything with a racist brush is so counter productive.  It makes me think that we don't have enough exposure to actual racism that people need to go looking for it in anything and everything.  In my opinion, that demeans ACTUAL racism, which is a serious thing.  It isn't this frivolous crap that does nothing but encourage divisiveness.  The "PC racism" bullshit needs to stop because it's hurting, not helping.



/rant
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 07:58:53 PM
What about saying Asians can't drive.



Cue rant from the Iron Chink.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
It's offensive sure.  Stereotypical as well.  But is it racist?  I don't agree that it is.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 08:09:47 PM
Of course its not.



I often tell people I am a racist.



When I asked why, I respond by saying something like "Asian's can't drive", or "Aboriginal culture is incompatible with white culture".



It takes a moment for the irony to strike.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: "RW"I am seriously fed up with what people deem to be "racist" these days.  It's time to stand up to the stupidity and stop allowing people to paint anything that is stereotypical, observatory, impressionistic, or just curiousity as racism.



Racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another and the discriminatory practices contained within belief.  What it isn't is doing an impression of a Chinese person talking.  It's not asking a black women how she manages her hair.  It's not saying East Indian people smell like curry.  It's not a white person dressing up like a black person for Halloween including brown face paint. It's not even saying natives have a problem with alcohol.



This need to paint everything with a racist brush is so counter productive.  It makes me think that we don't have enough exposure to actual racism that people need to go looking for it in anything and everything.  In my opinion, that demeans ACTUAL racism, which is a serious thing.  It isn't this frivolous crap that does nothing but encourage divisiveness.  The "PC racism" bullshit needs to stop because it's hurting, not helping.



/rant

I don't like when people assume I cannot speak English.

 ac_unsure
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 09:10:43 PM
That is stereotyping, to be sure.



But its not racism.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"That is stereotyping, to be sure.



But its not racism.

Whatever one chooses to label it, it annoys me.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 07, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
Of course. And I understand.



What RW is saying though, is that although it is annoying, it is not a crime.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 07, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
Will chime in when time permits. [yawning...sleepy...]
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 10:13:29 PM
Please do!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2015, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Of course. And I understand.



What RW is saying though, is that although it is annoying, it is not a crime.

Oh I know it is not a criminal act..



It's not illegal to make racial assumptions.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 07, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
It's not racist either unless that assumption is one of discriminatory superiority.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:28:28 AM
Quote from: "RW"It's not racist either unless that assumption is one of discriminatory superiority.

On the old Asian American forums I used to post on they would disagree..



They argued a stereotype is racist period.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 12:33:39 AM
Dammit, RW. I was hoping to argue with you on a different topic. But you made totally valid points that I agree and empathize with. Shiet.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 01:09:01 AM
Oh, don't worry. She's got PLENTY of views that you can argue with...she LIKES arguing.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 01:10:39 AM
I do not!



Oh wait....



 ac_razz
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 01:20:45 AM
Actually, now you start the topic, what exactly is wrong with racism?



Every non-white nationality practices it in some form or another. It seems to me that the racially demeaning conduct of the colonial powers of the 16th century and onwards underpins a sense of white guilt at the way caucasians treated other races in the race for hegemony.



That was wrong, and we've learnt from that. Some damage has been undone, and some can never be undone...like the US social division.



But racism that only distinguishes one from another is not a bad thing. Some races have different belief systems and cultures that other races find repugnant. How is it wrong to reject those belief systems in your own country.



Racism has only become a serious issue because of the folly of global migration; people from poorer countries wanting to live in richer countries, but carry their own traditions and beliefs with them. Those traditions are sometimes incompatible with the country they move to, but they insistit is their right to practice them, because that's what they did in their homeland.



Why, then, did they LEAVE their homeland.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Actually, now you start the topic, what exactly is wrong with racism?



Every non-white nationality practices it in some form or another. It seems to me that the racially demeaning conduct of the colonial powers of the 16th century and onwards underpins a sense of white guilt at the way caucasians treated other races in the race for hegemony.



That was wrong, and we've learnt from that. Some damage has been undone, and some can never be undone...like the US social division.



But racism that only distinguishes one from another is not a bad thing. Some races have different belief systems and cultures that other races find repugnant. How is it wrong to reject those belief systems in your own country.



Racism has only become a serious issue because of the folly of global migration; people from poorer countries wanting to live in richer countries, but carry their own traditions and beliefs with them. Those traditions are sometimes incompatible with the country they move to, but they insistit is their right to practice them, because that's what they did in their homeland.



Why, then, did they LEAVE their homeland.

Taiwan is a very racist country..



There are hundreds of thousands of migrant workers in Taiwan mostly from South East Asia that are systematically discriminated against..



Taiwan is a rich, educated country, but the racism is primitive.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Actually, now you start the topic, what exactly is wrong with racism?



Every non-white nationality practices it in some form or another. It seems to me that the racially demeaning conduct of the colonial powers of the 16th century and onwards underpins a sense of white guilt at the way caucasians treated other races in the race for hegemony.



That was wrong, and we've learnt from that. Some damage has been undone, and some can never be undone...like the US social division.



But racism that only distinguishes one from another is not a bad thing. Some races have different belief systems and cultures that other races find repugnant. How is it wrong to reject those belief systems in your own country.



Racism has only become a serious issue because of the folly of global migration; people from poorer countries wanting to live in richer countries, but carry their own traditions and beliefs with them. Those traditions are sometimes incompatible with the country they move to, but they insistit is their right to practice them, because that's what they did in their homeland.



Why, then, did they LEAVE their homeland.

You are talking about cultural/social differences, not racial.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: "RW"I am seriously fed up with what people deem to be "racist" these days.  It's time to stand up to the stupidity and stop allowing people to paint anything that is stereotypical, observatory, impressionistic, or just curiousity as racism.



Racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another and the discriminatory practices contained within belief.  What it isn't is doing an impression of a Chinese person talking.  It's not asking a black women how she manages her hair.  It's not saying East Indian people smell like curry.  It's not a white person dressing up like a black person for Halloween including brown face paint. It's not even saying natives have a problem with alcohol.



This need to paint everything with a racist brush is so counter productive.  It makes me think that we don't have enough exposure to actual racism that people need to go looking for it in anything and everything.  In my opinion, that demeans ACTUAL racism, which is a serious thing.  It isn't this frivolous crap that does nothing but encourage divisiveness.  The "PC racism" bullshit needs to stop because it's hurting, not helping.



/rant

It seems like you are telling minorities to just suck it up? If that is what you are saying, I cannot accept it.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 02:18:23 PM
Not at all.  I'm saying quit looking for racism where it doesn't exist.  It degrades actual racism and creates further divisiveness.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: "RW"Not at all.  I'm saying quit looking for racism where it doesn't exist.  It degrades actual racism and creates further divisiveness.

What a person in the majority feels is not racism, a minority person may strongly disagree. Best rule of thumb, is if you think it may cause offense, then don't go there.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 02:38:56 PM
I don't accept that seoul.  I agree with you about being offensive but the racism card is being overplayed to the point of becoming meaningless.  Is that what the term "racism" should become?  Meaningless?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"It seems like you are telling minorities to just suck it up? If that is what you are saying, I cannot accept it.

For some white people, if they don't experience racism they assume it doesn't exist. How can racism be a problem when it's never been a problem for them?



You were discriminated against because of the colour of your skin? Somebody yelled a racial slur at you? It's not racist, you're just playing the race card!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 03:11:40 PM
That's not what I'm saying Romero.  I'm saying things that aren't racist need to stop being called racist.  Someone yelling a racist slur is racism.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"That's not what I'm saying Romero.  I'm saying things that aren't racist need to stop being called racist.  Someone yelling a racist slur is racism.

"PC racism bullshit".
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Yes.  I provided examples.



You are actually one of the worst offenders around here of it to be honest.



Sorry.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Wulf on July 08, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
Most people can't tell the difference between an attack or criticism on a particular culture practice or activity and racism. Romero is a prime example. He wants to attach racism to any disparaging accusation leveled at minorities. That's just what his kind does because people like him use accusations of racism in an attempt to silence their political opposition.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yes.  I provided examples.



You are actually one of the worst offenders around here of it to be honest.



Sorry.

I am, am I? That's a laugh. But I thought you were seriously fed up with deeming everything to be racist? Aren't you playing the race card?



Sorry, you don't get to take the experiences that many people encounter and decide whether it's racist or not. You don't encounter these  things, so just because it's not a big deal for you doesn't mean it's not a big deal for everyone else.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: "Wulf"Most people can't tell the difference between an attack or criticism on a particular culture practice or activity and racism. Romero is a prime example. He wants to attach racism to any disparaging accusation leveled at minorities. That's just what his kind does because people like him use accusations of racism in an attempt to silence their political opposition.

Go ahead and show us any example of my doing so.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
I don't give a flying fuck what comes out of the sewers of ignorant assholes. Sticks and stones I say.



The kind of racism that really gets under my fucking hide is the racism of lowered expectations. You know, you coloured folks are boobs and you need us superior white liberals to give you a helping hand. Makes me fucking vomit.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"Yes.  I provided examples.



You are actually one of the worst offenders around here of it to be honest.



Sorry.

I am, am I? That's a laugh. But I thought you were seriously fed up with deeming everything to be racist? Aren't you playing the race card?



Sorry, you don't get to take the experiences that many people encounter and get to decide whether it's racist or not. You don't encounter these  things, so just because it's not a big deal for you doesn't mean it's not a big deal for everyone else.

Yeah, you are.  



I'm not demeaning real racist experiences.  I'm saying if we want to fight TRUE racism, we need to stop calling every damn thing racist.  It's DIVISIVE which is harmful in the long run.



And Romero, let me tell you right now - your PC bullshit is not going to shame me into silence.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 04:18:19 PM
Have I ever tried to stop you from being wrong? You can say what you want, and I can say what I want. You're not trying to shut me up, are you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Have I ever tried to stop you from being wrong? You can say what you want, and I can say what I want. You're not trying to shut me up, are you?

I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"Have I ever tried to stop you from being wrong? You can say what you want, and I can say what I want. You're not trying to shut me up, are you?

I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.

Anyone that says East Asians are shitty drivers is a racist, twirlybrained, nutcase crap and drooler. ac_razz

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Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Quote from: "RW"I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.

Those are poor examples since there's no context. Assuming that an Indo-Canadian smells like curry would be considered racist. Claiming Asians are bad drivers is racist. Because those insults are specifically meant to insult someone'rs race.



Can't claim "it's not racist" if it is in fact based solely on race.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.

Those are poor examples since there's no context. Assuming that an Indo-Canadian smells like curry would be considered racist. Claiming Asians are bad drivers is racist. Because those insults are specifically meant to insult someone'rs race.



Can't claim "it's not racist" if it is in fact based solely on race.

I couldn't give a flying fuck if you and Green Whore Nut think it's wacist or not.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.

Those are poor examples since there's no context. Assuming that an Indo-Canadian smells like curry would be considered racist. Claiming Asians are bad drivers is racist. Because those insults are specifically meant to insult someone'rs race.



Can't claim "it's not racist" if it is in fact based solely on race.

Context?  Wtf?  I don't think it is an unreasonable assumption to assume people who eat curry would smell like curry.  How the fuck is that racist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Wulf on July 08, 2015, 04:49:17 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I'm not wrong.  Maybe you can explain how asking someone how they manage their hair is racist or saying that someone who eats curry smells like curry.  



I'll listen.

Those are poor examples since there's no context. Assuming that an Indo-Canadian smells like curry would be considered racist. Claiming Asians are bad drivers is racist. Because those insults are specifically meant to insult someone'rs race.



Can't claim "it's not racist" if it is in fact based solely on race.


You have to be able to show inherent superiority of one race over another in order for either of those examples to be racist. Saying that some smells like curry does not show superiority in any way. Saying that someone is a shitty driver does not showcase racial superiority over another. Those type of disparaging remarks are cultural attacks.



Please learn the difference.



BTW, India is considered part of Southeast Asian and since all southeast Asians do not eat or smell like curry it is not a racial criticism, it is a criticism specifically directed at Indian culture. Again, learn the difference.



http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/as.htm
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: "Wulf"
You have to be able to show inherent superiority of one race over another in order for either of those examples for them to be racist. Saying that some smells like curry does not show racial superiority in any way. Saying that someone is a shitty driver does not showcase racial superiority over another. Those type of disparaging remarks are cultural attacks.



Please learn the difference.

I think East Asians are superior to whites. Especially old farts like you. :001_tongue:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: "Wulf"You have to be able to show inherent superiority of one race over another in order for either of those examples for them to be racist. Saying that some smells like curry does not show racial superiority in any way. Saying that someone is a shitty driver does not showcase racial superiority over another. Those type of disparaging remarks are cultural attacks.



Please learn the difference.

A white person saying "Asians are shitty drivers" is trying to showcase racial superiority. They're saying whites are better drivers than Asians.



That kind of statement is intended to be racist, because if it wasn't why would race even be mentioned at all? It's mentioned because it's on purpose.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Wulf on July 08, 2015, 05:40:44 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Wulf"You have to be able to show inherent superiority of one race over another in order for either of those examples for them to be racist. Saying that some smells like curry does not show racial superiority in any way. Saying that someone is a shitty driver does not showcase racial superiority over another. Those type of disparaging remarks are cultural attacks.



Please learn the difference.

A white person saying "Asians are shitty drivers" is trying to showcase racial superiority. They're saying whites are better drivers than Asians.



That kind of statement is intended to be racist, because if it wasn't why would race even be mentioned at all? It's mentioned because it's on purpose.


have you ever driven in an Asian country? They apparently have no real road rules and if they do, no one pays attention to them. To westerners their streets are absolutely chaotic. It is a cultural phenomenon and when they come here, they bring their driving habits with them.



It is not an indication that they are genetically or biologically incapable of driving safely but a criticism of their culturally specific driving habits. Race and cultural are not always the same. People like you need to learn that.



Every criticism leveled against groups of people is not based in racism. Your point of view is an exact example of what the OP was saying needs to go. You are either by choice ignorant of your actions or purposely deceptive so that you can push a leftist political agenda. Unfortunately for you, not everyone falls for your PC speak and misplaced criticisms. It is obvious that there are people on this forum a lot smarter than you and they can see through your politically correct nonsense.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
Quote from: "Wulf"have you ever driven in an Asian country? They apparently have no real road rules and if they do, no one pays attention to them. To westerners their streets are absolutely chaotic. It is a cultural phenomenon and when they come here, they bring their driving habits with them.

Look at you assuming that all Asians come from Asia!



Are all Asian Canadians born in Asia? No.



Are all Asians shitty drivers? No.



Assuming that someone must be a shitty driver just because they're Asian is racist. Don't want to be called racist? Then don't be racist!



Funny how you talk of political correctness and the leftist political agenda yet you don't have the guts to call something for what it really is. Own the racism! Be proud and loud! Don't try to hide or excuse it.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: "Wulf"
have you ever driven in an Asian country? They apparently have no real road rules and if they do, no one pays attention to them. To westerners their streets are absolutely chaotic. It is a cultural phenomenon and when they come here, they bring their driving habits with them.

Depends on the Asian country. Japanese and Singaporeans follow the rules. South Korea less so and China we don't need no stinking rules.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 06:09:39 PM
Since when was a stereotype 100% accurate?



And aren't all Asians from Asia?  Isn't that THE definition of an Asian?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Wulf"have you ever driven in an Asian country? They apparently have no real road rules and if they do, no one pays attention to them. To westerners their streets are absolutely chaotic. It is a cultural phenomenon and when they come here, they bring their driving habits with them.

Look at you assuming that all Asians come from Asia!



Are all Asian Canadians born in Asia? No.



Are all Asians shitty drivers? No.



Assuming that someone must be a shitty driver just because they're Asian is racist. Don't want to be called racist? Then don't be racist!



Funny how you talk of political correctness and the leftist political agenda yet you don't have the guts to call something for what it really is. Own the racism! Be proud and loud! Don't try to hide or excuse it.

Is it racism or is it stereotyping?  



Why don't you stop running around calling everything racist?  What purpose does that serve?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 06:22:10 PM
I'm not calling everything racist. I'm calling racist things racist.



Look at you telling me to stop saying what I want to say. Am I offending you? Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?



"Hey, politically correct dude - you can't say that." Irony!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
I'm not saying you can't say that.  I've asked you questions which you are deflecting.  



I think what you are doing is detrimental to race relations.  I think we need to turn it around before things get worse.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 06:36:55 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Wulf"You have to be able to show inherent superiority of one race over another in order for either of those examples for them to be racist. Saying that some smells like curry does not show racial superiority in any way. Saying that someone is a shitty driver does not showcase racial superiority over another. Those type of disparaging remarks are cultural attacks.



Please learn the difference.

A white person saying "Asians are shitty drivers" is trying to showcase racial superiority. They're saying whites are better drivers than Asians.



That kind of statement is intended to be racist, because if it wasn't why would race even be mentioned at all? It's mentioned because it's on purpose.
 1. What if they really were bad drivers. Still a sin to say so?



2. OK. Vancouver drivers are bad. Is that in your oneway mind racist .. oops, oh fck, it is.  all Vancouver drivers are Chinese so it has to be racist
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: "RW".....

I think what you are doing is detrimental to race relations.  I think we need to turn it around before things get worse.
 Yup. He's off on that tangent again



It is so sad that we have so many like him ready to play the race card



Chinese are good pingpongers .... Kenyans are good distance runners. Are those that racist in your mind Q?



Not to mention that African origin blacks are superior basketball players.



He is really missing RW's excellent OP message
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
Quote from: "RW"I'm not saying you can't say that.  I've asked you questions which you are deflecting.

You asked me "why don't you stop". That means you want me to stop.



I've answered your questions. I'm not calling everything racist. I'm calling racist things racist.



If I believe that something is racist, I'm allowed to have that opinion aren't I?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 06:48:11 PM
Yes. That's freedom. People are allowed to be stupid.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I'm not saying you can't say that.  I've asked you questions which you are deflecting.

You asked me "why don't you stop". That means you want me to stop.



I've answered your questions. I'm not calling everything racist. I'm calling racist things racist.



If I believe that something is racist, I'm allowed to have that opinion aren't I?

If calling things racist that aren't racist causes further division between races, would you stop?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Wulf on July 08, 2015, 07:17:04 PM
Quote from: "Romero"I'm not calling everything racist. I'm calling racist things racist.



Look at you telling me to stop saying what I want to say. Am I offending you? Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?



"Hey, politically correct dude - you can't say that." Irony!


That would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that you are confused as to what is actually racist and what isn't.  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 07:18:56 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Not to mention that African origin blacks are superior basketball players.

Here she goes with her "the Creator made Africans better basketball players" again.



Strange how the NBA never drafts players directly from Africa.  :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: "RW"If calling things racist that aren't racist causes further division between races, would you stop?

I don't call things racist that aren't racist.



Why do you keep trying to stop me from having my opinion? Can't I say whatever I want without offending you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
You know you're on the right side of an argument if Romero is on the opposite side.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"If calling things racist that aren't racist causes further division between races, would you stop?

I don't call things racist that aren't racist.



Why do you keep trying to stop me from having my opinion? Can't I say whatever I want without offending you?

Yes you do.



You aren't offending me.  PC racist bullshit harms society - not offends it.  It's the same way feminists are harming gender relations.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
It seems like you are telling minorities to just suck it up? If that is what you are saying, I cannot accept it.


Then don't be in a minority.



We, in the majority, are tired of "minorities" whining and moaning about every comment made which is even remotely suggesting you are different. Minorities have found a pressure point, and are working on it with zeal...for NO clear reason.



Complaining will NOT aid your integration. It will make the barriers bigger and stronger.



It is largely WHITE nations which have opened the doors to "minorities", and its time those minorities showed a LOT more fucking respect for being accommodated. I have yet to see a rational argument that says "multiculturalism" provides any substantive benefit to the host country, other than the time honoured chestnut of having more diversity in restaurants.



Given the grief SOME "minorities" cause, and the resources they demand, that is not sufficient payoff for multuculturalism to continue.



I STRONGLY respect other cultures and nations. I have just returned from Cambodia, where I tried hard in three days to use their language, learn their customs, and engage the citizens their with utmost respect. The same cannot be said for Chinese and Indian tourists, who treated the locals like vermin. And that's a view expressed by a local. White people are generally respected and welcomed; other Asians, not so much. Yet, according to the leftards, white people are racists.



There are racists in every nation, its true. But what white people are now saying is we're tired of granting you the privilege of living in OUR community, only to endure your constant complaining, your failure to integrate, and your ever increasing demands on our government services.



So, the easiest way of NOT being in a minority is to stay in the country where you are the majority.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Not to mention that African origin blacks are superior basketball players.

Here she goes with her "the Creator made Africans better basketball players" again.



Strange how the NBA never drafts players directly from Africa.  :001_rolleyes:
 Added to the heat wave, the stench of misrepresentation is stifling here
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"You know you're on the right side of an argument if Romero is on the opposite side.
 Truest words this month
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:40:07 PM
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Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Not to mention that African origin blacks are superior basketball players.

Here she goes with her "the Creator made Africans better basketball players" again.



Strange how the NBA never drafts players directly from Africa.  :001_rolleyes:
 Added to the heat wave, the stench of made up misrepresentation and diversion  is stifling here
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:41:36 PM
I don't agree with that Spec.  I think people should be treated with respect because they are people.  It's how to integrate cultural customs that you are talking about more so than race.



We need better racial and cultural dialogue which cannot happen if every time someone asks a stupid question they are labelled a racist.  Are you getting it yet Ro?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yes you do.



You aren't offending me.  PC racist bullshit harms society - not offends it.  It's the same way feminists are harming gender relations.

No, I don't.



Don't you see the irony in you being "seriously fed up" with certain people having their own opinion? If you believe in freedom of speech, why doesn't it apply to "PC racism bullshit"? Talk about double standards!



"What I say shouldn't offend you, but I'm seriously fed up with your harmful bullshit."
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
Quote from: "RW"We need better racial and cultural dialogue which cannot happen if every time someone asks a stupid question they are labelled a racist.  Are you getting it yet Ro?

You would have to give me an example. You know, make some sense.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
Quote from: "RW"
We need better racial and cultural dialogue


Why?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:45:13 PM
You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"We need better racial and cultural dialogue which cannot happen if every time someone asks a stupid question they are labelled a racist.  Are you getting it yet Ro?

You would have to give me an example. You know, make some sense.

Saying assuming East Indians smell like curry.  That's not racist.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
We need better racial and cultural dialogue


Why?

Because our current dialogue sucks.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?
He never "knows he's wrong". He just very often cannot find a reply that will help him out ...  because there is none , so dances
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"It is largely WHITE nations which have opened the doors to "minorities", and its time those minorities showed a LOT more fucking respect for being accommodated

There are no "white nations", and our countries have "opened the doors" because they require immigration to prosper.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?
He never "knows he's wrong". He just very often cannot find a reply that will help him out ...  because there is none , so dances

I know.  I just really wish racism wasn't getting diluted.  It's far too important of an issue to have it degraded.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
We need better racial and cultural dialogue


Why?

Because our current dialogue sucks.


Take that up with those that have singularly destroyed it.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
QuoteI know. I just really wish racism wasn't getting diluted. It's far too important of an issue to have it degraded.
Me 2. People like that have removed any meaning to what really is racism ... which of course is your point.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
QuoteI know. I just really wish racism wasn't getting diluted. It's far too important of an issue to have it degraded.
Me 2. People like that have removed any meaning to true racism

I agree.  I suspect it's because they haven't actually come across real racism.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
We need better racial and cultural dialogue


Why?

Because our current dialogue sucks.


Take that up with those that have singularly destroyed it.

I'm trying to!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
QuoteI know. I just really wish racism wasn't getting diluted. It's far too important of an issue to have it degraded.
Me 2. People like that have removed any meaning to true racism

I agree.  I suspect it's because they haven't actually come across real racism.
 Excellent point / explanation.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?

Uh, talking? Giving an opinion? Practicing my right to free speech?



I know I'm not caring whether you approve or get all "seriously fed up".



I'll say what I want. Don't like it? Ignore it!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 08:08:08 PM
While you are pontificating away, take a second out and attempt to answer her legit and appropriate  question
QuoteWhat do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"It is largely WHITE nations which have opened the doors to "minorities", and its time those minorities showed a LOT more fucking respect for being accommodated

There are no "white nations", and our countries have "opened the doors" because they require immigration to prosper.


The net economic benefit of immigration is debatable. Leftards cite the increased taxation revenue these immigrants provide, but rarely discuss the government services they utilise. Nonetheless, the argument that immigration improves prosperity is widespread.



So what?



Nobody wants to discuss the SOCIAL cost. America stands as a prime example of a country that benefits from cheap Mexican labour, but has a massive problem with Mexican and Hispanic gangs and ghettos...not to mention 16 million ILLEGAL immigrants.



We need to STOP measuring everything we do in economic terms. That's what whore's do...and they're better at it.



We need to assess the impact holistically. What is the impact on the social fabric. What about the dominant culture.



What about the political system. In areas where national minorities are local majorities, we see them vote for candidates of their own nationality, excluding the indigenous candidates on the basis of race. A more blatant example of racism I've yet to see, but white people are supposed to suck it up?



I don't think so.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 08:12:44 PM
Hmm. Would you consider yourself a white supremacist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?

Uh, talking? Giving an opinion? Practicing my right to free speech?



I know I'm not caring whether you approve or get all "seriously fed up".



I'll say what I want. Don't like it? Ignore it!

I know you are going to say what you want to say.  Now about you you say an answer to my question? :P
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 08:15:46 PM
Here's a good one to start with  
QuoteWhat do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?


Quote from: "Romero"Hmm. Would you consider yourself a white supremacist?
 Even I'm embarrassed for you on that one
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?

Uh, talking? Giving an opinion? Practicing my right to free speech?



I know I'm not caring whether you approve or get all "seriously fed up".



I'll say what I want. Don't like it? Ignore it!

I know you are going to say what you want to say.  Now about you you say an answer to my question? :P

I did answer. It's right there. I have a right to my opinion just like you do.



"Gee, uh, what do you hope to accomplish in calling the sky blue?"
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 08:16:53 PM
QuoteHmm. Would you consider yourself a white supremacist?


No. Have I demonstrated or stated in any post where I believe my culture or race to be superior to any other? That is far from my opinion. In fact, I cited where I travelled to another country and showed complete respect for my hosts...as I have always done in my worldy travels.



I will, however, categorically state that my culture is different to that of China, France, Madagascar, Peru and every other nation on earth. I do not want my culture diluted or affected by others. Its mine. And theirs is theirs. I see no point or purpose in mixing them.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
I want to add to this but I have no time to read past posts.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
QuoteHmm. Would you consider yourself a white supremacist?


No.

Good. They're so racist.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"You are dancing.  I suspect it's because you know you're wrong.



Can you answer this:



What do you hope to accomplish by calling things racist?

Uh, talking? Giving an opinion? Practicing my right to free speech?



I know I'm not caring whether you approve or get all "seriously fed up".



I'll say what I want. Don't like it? Ignore it!

I know you are going to say what you want to say.  Now about you you say an answer to my question? :P

I did answer. It's right there. I have a right to my opinion just like you do.



"Gee, uh, what do you hope to accomplish in calling the sky blue?"

I didn't ask if you felt you had the right to your opinion.  In fact, I asked for more of your opinion by asking what you hope to accomplish when you call something/someone racist.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 08:42:52 PM
I'll just say that making fun of other nationalities like some of the jokes I post is not what I would call "racist." I don't care if there are jokes about my race. That's just the way it is. I'd say "racist" comes from a more fundamental level. For example, I think it is racist to disown a child because they married outside of your race. Some people from third world countries who are not black are "scared" of black people. They think of the stereotype violent black criminals they see on TV. I consider these types racist because they lumped blacks into one category. They did not even care to educate themselves that not all blacks are violent.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
What if some blacks are violent and people are leary of all blacks because they don't know which ones are violent and which ones aren't.  Is that real racism?



Note: I am not saying black people are violent.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 08, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Go ahead.



There is ample evidence they are.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 09:03:47 PM
Some are but that can be said about any and all races.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: "RW"I didn't ask if you felt you had the right to your opinion.  In fact, I asked for more of your opinion by asking what you hope to accomplish when you call something/someone racist.

I'm not necessarily trying to accomplish anything. I'm just speaking my mind.



If I call Odinson racist, I'm just calling him racist like he would call me a leftie. Also, he's racist.



I would like him to understand the error of his ways, but I don't actually believe I'll accomplish that. I'm just speaking my mind.



I don't see why I should have to censor my opinion just because some people don't like it. They get to say what they want so I do too.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 09:15:04 PM
Should you consider the social impact of what you say?  Do you feel something as important as racism deserves such consideration?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I didn't ask if you felt you had the right to your opinion.  In fact, I asked for more of your opinion by asking what you hope to accomplish when you call something/someone racist.

I'm not necessarily trying to accomplish anything. I'm just speaking my mind.



If I call Odinson racist, I'm just calling him racist like he would call me a leftie. Also, he's racist.



I would like him to understand the error of his ways, but I don't actually believe I'll accomplish that. I'm just speaking my mind.



I don't see why I should have to censor my opinion just because some people don't like it. They get to say what they want so I do too.


When I refer to someone as "racist," I just think that in my head. I don't actually call them out and say, "Hey, you are being racist!" I don't care who they make fun of because I do it too. It's not personal. It's just the way it is. We all do it. Maybe some do it more than others or have a knack for doing it constantly.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: "RW"Should you consider the social impact of what you say?  Do you feel something as important as racism deserves such consideration?

I consider and care about everything I say. I'm not just throwing things out there for fun.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"When I refer to someone as "racist," I just think that in my head. I don't actually call them out and say, "Hey, you are being racist!" I don't care who they make fun of because I do it too. It's not personal. It's just the way it is. We all do it. Maybe some do it more than others or have a knack for doing it constantly.

For sure! A lot of times it's not really personal.



There's nothing wrong with having some lighthearted fun. There's a difference between having some fun and actually being racist.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"Should you consider the social impact of what you say?  Do you feel something as important as racism deserves such consideration?

I consider and care about everything I say. I'm not just throwing things out there for fun.


Maybe you should once in a while.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"Should you consider the social impact of what you say?  Do you feel something as important as racism deserves such consideration?

I consider and care about everything I say. I'm not just throwing things out there for fun.

So what do you think the impact is of calling things racist that aren't?  (try not taking the question personally.)
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I didn't ask if you felt you had the right to your opinion.  In fact, I asked for more of your opinion by asking what you hope to accomplish when you call something/someone racist.

I'm not necessarily trying to accomplish anything. I'm just speaking my mind.



If I call Odinson racist, I'm just calling him racist like he would call me a leftie. Also, he's racist.



I would like him to understand the error of his ways, but I don't actually believe I'll accomplish that. I'm just speaking my mind.



I don't see why I should have to censor my opinion just because some people don't like it. They get to say what they want so I do too.


When I refer to someone as "racist," I just think that in my head. I don't actually call them out and say, "Hey, you are being racist!" I don't care who they make fun of because I do it too. It's not personal. It's just the way it is. We all do it. Maybe some do it more than others or have a knack for doing it constantly.

What was the last racist thing someone said to you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: "RW"
What was the last racist thing someone said to you?


I don't know if it's my circle or the company I keep or where I live or where I work, I cannot tell you a racist thing said to me ever except for once when I was younger. Story another time. I cannot count the ones said to me on the forums because I consider those sources null and void. They don't know me so those don't count.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 09:36:57 PM
Quote from: "RW"So what do you think the impact is of calling things racist that aren't?  (try not taking the question personally.)

Well, if it's something that's not true then it can't have a beneficial impact. A falsehood is a falsehood. Like how SPECTRE believes black people are violent.



The amount of impact depends. It may become completely forgotten or full-blown depending on the situation.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"I don't know if it's my circle or the company I keep or where I live or where I work, I cannot tell you a racist thing said to me ever except for once when I was younger. Story another time. I cannot count the ones said to me on the forums because I consider those sources null and void. They don't know me so those don't count.

Just goes to show that people are less likely to be racist when they get to know you or can't hide.



Who wouldn't love an intelligent, beautiful Filipina-American?



Go back to your country! Have a nice visit but come back right away because you're awesome.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 08, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Just goes to show that people are less likely to be racist when they get to know you or can't hide.



Who wouldn't love an intelligent, beautiful Filipina-American?



Go back to your country! Have a nice visit but come back right away because you're awesome.

 ac_biggrin  :nhl_checking:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"So what do you think the impact is of calling things racist that aren't?  (try not taking the question personally.)

Well, if it's something that's not true then it can't have a beneficial impact. A falsehood is a falsehood. Like how SPECTRE believes black people are violent.



The amount of impact depends. It may become completely forgotten or full-blown depending on the situation.

You don't think that it diminishes actual racism by over using the term for things that aren't racist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 10:12:12 PM
No, actual racism isn't dependent on whether someone overuses the term. Actual racism happens because racists want to be racist. They don't do it just because someone's overusing the term.



There's a good argument that some people scream racism for no good reason, but I think it pales in comparison to the real issue of so many more people encountering racism throughout their lives.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: "Romero"No, actual racism isn't dependent on whether someone overuses the term. Actual racism happens because racists want to be racist. They don't do it just because someone's overusing the term.

Running around calling people who aren't racists and who aren't saying racist things degrades actual racism.  It's also really bad for inter-racial relationship building.  It's also ignorant.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
If someone gets to say(seriously, not jokingly) Asians are bad drivers, then I get to say it's racist. It's a two-way street. They get to have their opinion and possibly offend, so I get to have my opinion and possibly offend them right back. If you can't take what you dish out...



Someone says "fucking Asians can't drive!". But I'm not allowed to say "you're a racist piece of shit"? That's total hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "RW"
What was the last racist thing someone said to you?


I don't know if it's my circle or the company I keep or where I live or where I work, I cannot tell you a racist thing said to me ever except for once when I was younger. Story another time. I cannot count the ones said to me on the forums because I consider those sources null and void. They don't know me so those don't count.

I have heard about some of the disgusting racist comments written about you Azhya..



I feel terrible about it.

 ac_crying
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"No, actual racism isn't dependent on whether someone overuses the term. Actual racism happens because racists want to be racist. They don't do it just because someone's overusing the term.

Running around calling people who aren't racists and who aren't saying racist things degrades actual racism.  It's also really bad for inter-racial relationship building.  It's also ignorant.

Where is this happening? Who's running around calling people racist when they aren't racist? Is it anywhere near as often as the actual racism so many have to deal with all their lives?



I've never seen any pc equivalent of the KKK. What's worse? Too much pc or too much racism?



Funny how you're more seriously fed up with political correctness. Why aren't you more seriously fed up with the much higher number of actual racists that actually exist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 10:47:36 PM
I so love Asian our wonderful people even though seriously, (not jokingly) Asians are bad drivers
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I so love Asian our wonderful people even though seriously, (not jokingly) Asians are bad drivers

So you're saying that the Asians here are bad drivers.



Personally, I wouldn't know. I haven't driven with them. I base my assumptions on real life, individual situations and not the colour of someone's skin or what continent they or their ancestors came from.



You should realize that, shockingly, many Asian Canadians are actually born here. They must be bad drivers just because they're Asian, eh?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 08, 2015, 11:00:19 PM
Dunno why. From observation, all I know is that the Asians I so love are bad drivers.



Except Shen, Fash, seoulbro and my former lover of course
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Dunno why. From observation, all I know is that the Asians I so love are bad drivers.



Except Shen, Fash, seoulbro and my former lover of course

Huh? You said Asians are bad drivers and those people are Asian.



Now you're saying not all Asians are bad drivers? Am I detecting some political correctness?



If you believe Asians are bad drivers, then have the guts to tell them they are.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I so love Asian our wonderful people even though seriously, (not jokingly) Asians are bad drivers

 ac_wot
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2015, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Dunno why. From observation, all I know is that the Asians I so love are bad drivers.



Except Shen, Fash, seoulbro and my former lover of course

You had an Asian boyfriend cc la femme?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 11:18:36 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"No, actual racism isn't dependent on whether someone overuses the term. Actual racism happens because racists want to be racist. They don't do it just because someone's overusing the term.

Running around calling people who aren't racists and who aren't saying racist things degrades actual racism.  It's also really bad for inter-racial relationship building.  It's also ignorant.

Where is this happening? Who's running around calling people racist when they aren't racist? Is it anywhere near as often as the actual racism so many have to deal with all their lives?



I've never seen any pc equivalent of the KKK. What's worse? Too much pc or too much racism?



Funny how you're more seriously fed up with political correctness. Why aren't you more seriously fed up with the much higher number of actual racists that actually exist?

Because I am finding it hard to focus on real racism with all the stupid people calling everything racist.



Go look up stuff like "racist things white people say that they don't know is racist".  It's that crap that I can't stand.  I can't stand it because it hurts racial relations and it demeans actual racism and those who experience it.  



You also can't qualify your statement on racists vs PC bullshitters.  I challenge you to do so if you wish to hang on to that comment.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 08, 2015, 11:19:32 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Dunno why. From observation, all I know is that the Asians I so love are bad drivers.



Except Shen, Fash, seoulbro and my former lover of course

Huh? You said Asians are bad drivers and those people are Asian.



Now you're saying not all Asians are bad drivers? Am I detecting some political correctness?



If you believe Asians are bad drivers, then have the guts to tell them they are.

Wait!  Are we talking about Asians from Asia?



 ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 08, 2015, 11:25:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"Because I am finding it hard to focus on real racism with all the stupid people calling everything racist.



Go look up stuff like "racist things white people say that they don't know is racist".  It's that crap that I can't stand.  I can't stand it because it hurts racial relations and it demeans actual racism and those who experience it.  



You also can't qualify your statement on racists vs PC bullshitters.  I challenge you to do so if you wish to hang on to that comment.

It's not stupid people's fault you can't focus on real racism. Why are you blaming stupid people but not the real racists? I don't have a problem focusing on real racism.



Go look up stuff like whites actually saying racist things. It happens much more often. In this very thread, Asians are "bad drivers" and blacks are "violent". Do you agree with those statements?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 12:25:21 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Dunno why. From observation, all I know is that the Asians I so love are bad drivers.

Hey, I resemble that comment. :001_tongue:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 01:07:05 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"Because I am finding it hard to focus on real racism with all the stupid people calling everything racist.



Go look up stuff like "racist things white people say that they don't know is racist".  It's that crap that I can't stand.  I can't stand it because it hurts racial relations and it demeans actual racism and those who experience it.  



You also can't qualify your statement on racists vs PC bullshitters.  I challenge you to do so if you wish to hang on to that comment.

It's not stupid people's fault you can't focus on real racism. Why are you blaming stupid people but not the real racists? I don't have a problem focusing on real racism.



Go look up stuff like whites actually saying racist things. It happens much more often. In this very thread, Asians are "bad drivers" and blacks are "violent". Do you agree with those statements?

Asians are bad driver and blacks are violent.  Now I know you're going to freak but there is no qualifier in either of those sentences although you will read "all" and these are stereotypes.  



Why am I not addressing racists and racism? Because this is a discussion about the detriments of PCism.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 02:52:28 AM
Immigrants are often bad drivers. I have a number of Australian born and raised friends with Asian ancestry who openly tell off other Asian bad drivers who they believe are immigrants. They're usually right about the immigrant status too.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 04:09:42 AM
Quote from: "RW"Asians are bad driver and blacks are violent.  Now I know you're going to freak but there is no qualifier in either of those sentences although you will read "all" and these are stereotypes.

I'm not going to freak. You're the one who's seriously fed up, remember? I'm not the one who started whining about others. I'm okay with knowing what kind of person you are.


Quote from: "RW"Why am I not addressing racists and racism? Because this is a discussion about the detriments of PCism.

Aw. I'm so sorry for your hardship. I hope you'll find a way to get through these challenging times.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:39:44 AM
Oh and by the way...



Whites are violent.  Asians are violent.  Natives are violent.  Whites are bad drivers.  Blacks are bad drivers.  



Tell me Romero, what kind of person am I?  Racist?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"Asians are bad driver and blacks are violent.  Now I know you're going to freak but there is no qualifier in either of those sentences although you will read "all" and these are stereotypes.

I'm not going to freak. You're the one who's seriously fed up, remember? I'm not the one who started whining about others. I'm okay with knowing what kind of person you are.


Quote from: "RW"Why am I not addressing racists and racism? Because this is a discussion about the detriments of PCism.

Aw. I'm so sorry for your hardship. I hope you'll find a way to get through these challenging times.

I'm not whining about others.  I'm expressing concern for the degradation of a serious issue - racism.  Being that you are one of the worst offenders in these parts, I can see why you'd be so defensive.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:07:03 AM
I think feminism is whee the pendulum will right itself first.  Something has to give.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 05:21:23 AM
Quote from: "RW"I think feminism is whee the pendulum will right itself first.  Something has to give.


I don't know. I hope something changes but how long can a breath be held? I'm just amazed that so many women are fine with using their gender as a weapon when scenarios don't go their way. The same thing happens with race. I work with huge groups of diverse people from assignment to assignment and I'm always disappointed when I see people using or relying on the race and gender cards to push up ahead of other people who are better qualified or suited for a position. Virtually nobody who values their job ever objects. It's career suicide. Even if the situation is later ruled discriminatory, not many organizations are willing to employ with that reputation attached.



I would like to repeat my basic feeling on this. Discrimination based on anything besides experience and qualifications is wrong just like racism or sexism are wrong.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:01:16 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

This is true Dinky Diana..



In my experience, it is best to be mindful of what we say, so as not offend those that are easily offended.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 09, 2015, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

This is true Dinky Diana..



In my experience, it is best to be mindful of what we say, so as not offend those that are easily offended.


That only goes so far.



Pointing out reverse racism equally offends many of those who purport standard racism aversion. That's the untouched topic or subject matter. I have boys and I fear for their lifestyles and plans because they're white in color. If they're not good enough, okay. If they're not multicultural enough, fuck their detractors in the ass with a poison tipped lance.



Sorry for being blunt, but I'm not going to apologize for reproduction or the characteristics of those I've given birth to.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

This is true Dinky Diana..



In my experience, it is best to be mindful of what we say, so as not offend those that are easily offended.


That only goes so far.



Pointing out reverse racism equally offends many of those who purport standard racism aversion. That's the untouched topic or subject matter. I have boys and I fear for their lifestyles and plans because they're white in color. If they're not good enough, okay. If they're not multicultural enough, fuck their detractors in the ass with a poison tipped lance.



Sorry for being blunt, but I'm not going to apologize for reproduction or the characteristics of those I've given birth to.

All I can say is what I know from personal experience..



I try to be mindful of the sensitivities of others and I have been able to avoid offense.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 11:46:05 AM
I have never brought a quote from the unmentionable site before, but this Odism shocked me and was too appropriate for this thread
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "cc la tarte"To get this Archie comic book pair off Odi, maybe I should start a new "Mel Advice" comedy thread.

Romero is like a pigeon shitting on the chess board and calling it winning.



(+ reference to a serial Archie cheerleader)
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: "RW"I'm not whining about others.  I'm expressing concern for the degradation of a serious issue - racism.  Being that you are one of the worst offenders in these parts, I can see why you'd be so defensive.

So does this mean you're going to allow us to criticize American policies again without telling us to stop it and calling us "America haters"?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I'm not whining about others.  I'm expressing concern for the degradation of a serious issue - racism.  Being that you are one of the worst offenders in these parts, I can see why you'd be so defensive.

So does this mean you're going to allow us to criticize American policies again without telling us to stop it and calling us "America haters"?

You don't understand being cheeky do you?   :oeudC:



Can you please stick to the topic or does it upset you this much for being called out for being a detrimental PCist that you have to act like a boob?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 02:28:17 PM
You were just being cheeky when you told "America haters" to stop it and seriously fuck off?



SPECTRE thought you were being serious. But it's good to know that we no longer have to be all pc when discussing the US.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Yes Romero.  That was right after Renee left citing anti-Americanism, including mine.  I'm terribly sorry that you live in a world that is so black and white where there's nothing underneath a statement - no additional context or reason.  Now that I think about it, it's as if your world is flat.



Now tell me, how do you feel about the public slagging of a woman who dressed up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black because she made herself brown like the character?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
The Julianne Hough Crazy Eyes blackface thing?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:04:55 PM
Yeah.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think feminism is whee the pendulum will right itself first.  Something has to give.
 Jeez one would hope / think so



However, the crap we have seen in that and so many  other areas is increasing exponentially. Of course I hope, but I expect it all to continue to grow



Sorry to be pessimistic, but this kind of counter-productive crap is out of control I fear. Q is just a tiny blip example of how fck up and self-destructive society has become
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:18:23 PM
I know it is.  I see it everywhere including in comedy but seriously speaking.  There's this theme that we all suffer from "mild racism" or that we are all "a little bit racist".  Bullshit!  Inventing racism where there is none is not the right path to eliminating racism.  It's insane.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yeah.

It was wrong and offensive. She knows it too because she apologized.



You would never go out in blackface, would you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:31:07 PM
It wasn't wrong or offensive.  She apologized because people threw a massive fit over a Halloween costume.  I was embarrassed for the U.S. during that whole thing and disappointed that the actress who played Crazy Eyes didn't stand up for her.



This is exactly the insanity I'm talking about and that you and far too many others subscribe to.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 03:34:18 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yes Romero.  That was right after Renee left citing anti-Americanism, including mine.  I'm terribly sorry that you live in a world that is so black and white where there's nothing underneath a statement - no additional context or reason.  Now that I think about it, it's as if your world is flat.



Now tell me, how do you feel about the public slagging of a woman who dressed up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black because she made herself brown like the character?

I feel Renee is taking a break because she has other things in her life that require a great deal of attention.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"Yes Romero.  That was right after Renee left citing anti-Americanism, including mine.  I'm terribly sorry that you live in a world that is so black and white where there's nothing underneath a statement - no additional context or reason.  Now that I think about it, it's as if your world is flat.



Now tell me, how do you feel about the public slagging of a woman who dressed up like Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black because she made herself brown like the character?

I feel Renee is taking a break because she has other things in her life that require a great deal of attention.

Shhhh don't tell Romero.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: "RW"It wasn't wrong or offensive.  She apologized because people threw a massive fit over a Halloween costume.  I was embarrassed for the U.S. during that whole thing and disappointed that the actress who played Crazy Eyes didn't stand up for her.



This is exactly the insanity I'm talking about and that you and far too many others subscribe to.

Yes, that little forgotten episode has made racism so much worse than it used to be. How dare people say they feel!



So, would you go out on Halloween in blackface? How about as a Nazi?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
I didn't say it made racism worse.  I said it takes away from ACTUAL racism and REAL racial issues.



I see nothing wrong with using brown paint on your face if you are dressing up like a black person for Halloween, just like it isn't offensive to paint your face white if you were dressing up like a white person for Halloween.  What the fuck is offensive about it?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 04:03:20 PM
Hmm. Would you dress up in blackface or as a Nazi for Halloween?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Hmm. Would you dress up in blackface or as a Nazi for Halloween?

That's not really my style of Halloween costumes but would I get upset if someone painted their face brown to look like a character from a popular TV show - no.



Now answer my question - what is offensive about making yourself look like someone you idolize?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 04:33:08 PM
You wouldn't dress up in blackface or as a Nazi and you know it. You wouldn't because you know it's wrong and offensive.



If you wish to keep feigning ignorance, you can just look up "blackface" on the internet and educate yourself!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 04:47:21 PM
I know what "blackface" is - a theatric style of make-up that has not been used for decades.  Is it the same thing as putting brown paint on your face to look like someone for Halloween?  No, it's not.



Do you think Julianna Hough deserved to be called a racist and racially insensitive amoung other things for dressing up like someone she idiolizes?  Is THAT what fighting racism is all about?  Attacking white people for their Halloween costume that they meant absolutely no offense by?  Is fighting racism dragging innocent people through the mud in the name of off base sensitivity?



Come on Romero.  Tell me this shit is the good fight against REAL RACISM.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2015, 04:59:25 PM
Gee, why do people get so offended over dressing up as a Nazi in public? What's the big deal?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:03:46 PM
Want to answer the question or just play Frogger with the point?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 05:04:14 PM
I wonder how people who have suffered real racism feel about this stupid crap.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 08:05:18 PM
I'm sure Q knows lot of them, will ask them  and will update us soon
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 09, 2015, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: "RW"I wonder how people who have suffered real racism feel about this stupid crap.


In a way, I feel a little guilty that I don't pay attention to racism debates because I don't have much to add. I don' have compelling stories to tell although it was the reason why I first joined the forums. I was googling something and one of the results led me to a thread on DV where posters were bashing Filipinos. I had never seen anything like that before. It irritated my virgin eyes. I had never read racist views on Filipinos before that moment and it vexed me. I guess they were always out there but I had never come across it until then. So, I registered to be able to post and blast those unkind posters for their ignorant rants but then I realized that bashing others was a norm in that forum and they weren't only bashing Filipinos but each other as well and constantly too. I was led to the mouth of hell.   ac_toofunny



I was driving on Constitution Avenue one day after the Memorial Day Parade. I was alone. While waiting for the traffic light to turn green, a car pulled up to my right. There were a bunch of white men in that car and they called my attention. They cried, "Hey, gook!" They were taunting me. I just ignored them and drove off when the light turned green. I was not really upset because they did not further harass me or followed me. I drove off and turned and that was that. Once I got to a dictionary, I looked up what gook meant. Heheh. At that time, I was younger so I had not yet developed the balls to give them the middle finger. Now I gladly will. :laugh3:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 09:52:14 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:02:52 PM
Abuh?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 09, 2015, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


HEY!!! That's MY job.



She just makes Australians look like racists.



And we ARE!!!! :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


HEY!!! That's MY job.



She just makes Australians look like racists.



And we ARE!!!! :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Congrats!! I'm not a racist, but whites ARE lazy, entitled, self-absorbed whiners.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 09, 2015, 10:49:17 PM
What about the Swedes?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2015, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: "RW"What about the Swedes?

As you know, I love Sweden. Well, other than them letting in all those muzzies who don't respect Scandie values.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 09, 2015, 11:06:00 PM
QuoteCongrats!! I'm not a racist, but whites ARE lazy, entitled, self-absorbed whiners.
And Asians can't drive
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"And Asians can't drive

Can too. It's just that the windshield fucking blinds me. :wink:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 12:20:26 AM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 12:53:54 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "cc la femme"And Asians can't drive

Can too. It's just that the windshield fucking blinds me. :wink:

 :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 10, 2015, 01:28:58 AM
lol
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 01:51:57 AM
Is it Racist to say Albertan's cant drive in B.C ?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 04:02:51 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


HEY!!! That's MY job.



She just makes Australians look like racists.



And we ARE!!!! :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Congrats!! I'm not a racist, but whites ARE lazy, entitled, self-absorbed whiners.


And you chinks are soulless, robotic, money-obsessed overbreeders.



You want some of this, Mousey Tongue, come get some.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 04:04:59 AM
Why does the word "ch ink" get substituted with Asian?



Fix it.



"Ch ink" is slang for Chinese. Not all Asians are Chinese.



Thank god.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 04:07:35 AM
Quote from: "Keeper"Is it Racist to say Albertan's cant drive in B.C ?

That is just a known fact!  Like I told you, no BCer is going to sympathize with you either :P
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 10, 2015, 05:14:03 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


Were you drinking at the time of writing that?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
If she was drinking, she would have been abusive.



That's her normal (sober) way of talking.



She's Chinese. Thinks she's special.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: keeper on July 10, 2015, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Keeper"Is it Racist to say Albertan's cant drive in B.C ?

That is just a known fact!  Like I told you, no BCer is going to sympathize with you either :P




You have no idea what your talking about :crazy:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 08:47:53 AM
Does this typify Canadian drivers?



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Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 10, 2015, 08:49:46 AM
And this is for Shen Li.



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Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Does this typify Canadian drivers?



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No chance of that driver being hijacked. :laugh:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 10, 2015, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: "RW"I didn't say it made racism worse.  I said it takes away from ACTUAL racism and REAL racial issues.



I see nothing wrong with using brown paint on your face if you are dressing up like a black person for Halloween, just like it isn't offensive to paint your face white if you were dressing up like a white person for Halloween.  What the fuck is offensive about it?

If a white person wears black face they are bringing back the pain of Jim Crow. If a says Asians can't drive they are bringing back the racism of the exclusion act.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 10, 2015, 03:08:41 PM
Asians can't drive



Whites and Asians can't dance
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 03:29:58 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


Were you drinking at the time of writing that?

Yes, it's reasonable to assume the only way to make your illogical tripe palatable is by consuming buckets of pre-made mojitos.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 10, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
Accidental top



Thanks god that we don't do that dumb MB top routine here
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 10, 2015, 06:33:13 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


Were you drinking at the time of writing that?

Yes, it's reasonable to assume the only way to make your illogical tripe palatable is by consuming buckets of pre-made mojitos.
 :roll:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 06:39:23 PM
Dinky Di, don't listen to this crapola.  You are plenty logical :)
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Quote from: "RW"I didn't say it made racism worse.  I said it takes away from ACTUAL racism and REAL racial issues.



I see nothing wrong with using brown paint on your face if you are dressing up like a black person for Halloween, just like it isn't offensive to paint your face white if you were dressing up like a white person for Halloween.  What the fuck is offensive about it?

If a white person wears black face they are bringing back the pain of Jim Crow. If a says Asians can't drive they are bringing back the racism of the exclusion act.

Have you had your ass kicked again by another Chinese boxer with ball bearing packed gloves Joak? :laugh3:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
Seoul, have you experienced any real racism in your life?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: "RW"Seoul, have you experienced any real racism in your life?

Thanks for asking RW. Yes, I have. I don't mean I was attacked by a bunch of baseball bat wielding skins. But, like most Asian guys I have had my share of punks pull up to me in a car and shout slurs.



The racism that disturbs me the most is what the media feeds the masses. All too often I see network producers pandering to the most tired stereotypes of Asian men. It's getting a little better, with shows like Hawaii 5-0 for example. But, it's there though. I guess it is a matter of plenty of patience and chipping away at them. Stereotypes of Asian men as being spoiled mamma's boys or effeminate tool a while to build up. They won't be knocked down over night.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
You consider that racism or is it merely stereotyping?  Are those different to you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: "RW"You consider that racism or is it merely stereotyping?  Are those different to you?

You ask the tough questions RW. I've never analyzed it, but I'll give it a shot.



In my opinion only, stereotyping is not necessarily racism although it often is. If someone believes I cannot drive based on widely held assumptions of people they know little about, I would call that ignorance. If some guy like Gary Joak utters a stereotype it is racism. That's how I see it anyway.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"You consider that racism or is it merely stereotyping?  Are those different to you?

You ask the tough questions RW. I've never analyzed it, but I'll give it a shot.



In my opinion only, stereotyping is not necessarily racism although it often is. If someone believes I cannot drive based on widely held assumptions of people they know little about, I would call that ignorance. If some guy like Gary Joak utters a stereotype it is racism. That's how I see it anyway.

So context is key?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"You consider that racism or is it merely stereotyping?  Are those different to you?

You ask the tough questions RW. I've never analyzed it, but I'll give it a shot.



In my opinion only, stereotyping is not necessarily racism although it often is. If someone believes I cannot drive based on widely held assumptions of people they know little about, I would call that ignorance. If some guy like Gary Joak utters a stereotype it is racism. That's how I see it anyway.

So context is key?

Most definitely for the examples I gave.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 10, 2015, 07:45:14 PM
So someone could comment on your driving or tease you as a stereotype and it could be just fine with you?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 11, 2015, 02:01:42 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Racism like sexism seems to me to be in the eye of the beholder. If not enough of one group or gender is seen to be successful or included in roles, activities, or discussions, then it is often called racism or sexism and the solutions proposed by those offended which are also often racist or sexist by definition, aren't oddly racist or sexist. Why isn't it?



It's why I despise militant feminists so much. They give women a bad name.



It should be about equal opportunity not equal coverage.

You fucking hypocritical asshole. You have no probs labelling others that don't kiss your flat white narcissistic ass racist, sexist, homophobic. Fuck off turd, you make whites look bad.


Were you drinking at the time of writing that?

Yes, it's reasonable to assume the only way to make your illogical tripe palatable is by consuming buckets of pre-made mojitos.


Are you sober now?  ac_biggrin


Quote from: "RW"Dinky Di, don't listen to this crapola.  You are plenty logical :)


I thought I was plenty logical, even possibly polite and didn't see that fast bowled and garbled fortune cookie post coming at me until after it missed the wicket by a country mile.  ac_smile
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2015, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: "RW"So someone could comment on your driving or tease you as a stereotype and it could be just fine with you?

I would prefer you didn't. Let's leave the stupidity to Gary Joak and Green Hornut.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 04:49:19 PM
That's not my style but I was wondering if that's the case.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 11, 2015, 09:28:41 PM
A poster can vouch for me that I am a fine driver. ac_sothere
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 11, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
Oh really??



 ac_smile



You guys know that I was only smartassing with Shen, right?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 11, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
Of course we know that cc!  There's no brain drain here.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 11, 2015, 11:23:50 PM
I noticed that .. but just wanted to be sure no one would take insult at my silliness
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 11, 2015, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Oh really??



 ac_smile




   :Laie_68:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Oh really??



 ac_smile



You guys know that I was only smartassing with Shen, right?

You shouldn't make fun of the Iron Ch!nk. You know what a sensitive thin-skinned gal I am. :roll:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 12, 2015, 12:54:15 PM
Petition To Change The Name Of 'Cracker Barrel' To 'Caucasian Barrel' Because of Racist Slur



Change the name C****er Barrel to Caucasian Barrel



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I say all of us European Americans start protesting C****er Barrel. It uses an offensive slur and it is deeply offensive and mocks our long and proud heritage.



The name is offensive, their logo stereotypes European Americans as people who sit on chairs and lean against what appears to be a bourbon barrel, claiming we are all a bunch of alcoholics. Sure, they'll SAY it's a "cracker" barrel but everyone knows crackers don't come in barrels, they come in bags and boxes!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Petition To Change The Name Of 'Cracker Barrel' To 'Caucasian Barrel' Because of Racist Slur



Change the name C****er Barrel to Caucasian Barrel



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I say all of us European Americans start protesting C****er Barrel. It uses an offensive slur and it is deeply offensive and mocks our long and proud heritage.



The name is offensive, their logo stereotypes European Americans as people who sit on chairs and lean against what appears to be a bourbon barrel, claiming we are all a bunch of alcoholics. Sure, they'll SAY it's a "cracker" barrel but everyone knows crackers don't come in barrels, they come in bags and boxes!

Best post of the week award goes to CC. ac_drinks  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 12, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Petition To Change The Name Of 'Cracker Barrel' To 'Caucasian Barrel' Because of Racist Slur



Change the name C****er Barrel to Caucasian Barrel



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I say all of us European Americans start protesting C****er Barrel. It uses an offensive slur and it is deeply offensive and mocks our long and proud heritage.



The name is offensive, their logo stereotypes European Americans as people who sit on chairs and lean against what appears to be a bourbon barrel, claiming we are all a bunch of alcoholics. Sure, they'll SAY it's a "cracker" barrel but everyone knows crackers don't come in barrels, they come in bags and boxes!

HAHAHA!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 12, 2015, 01:31:18 PM
lol
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Petition To Change The Name Of 'Cracker Barrel' To 'Caucasian Barrel' Because of Racist Slur



Change the name C****er Barrel to Caucasian Barrel



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I say all of us European Americans start protesting C****er Barrel. It uses an offensive slur and it is deeply offensive and mocks our long and proud heritage.



The name is offensive, their logo stereotypes European Americans as people who sit on chairs and lean against what appears to be a bourbon barrel, claiming we are all a bunch of alcoholics. Sure, they'll SAY it's a "cracker" barrel but everyone knows crackers don't come in barrels, they come in bags and boxes!

No more Cracker Barrel cheese for my family cc la femme.

 :laugh3:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
Hey...we have a cheese here called "Coon Cheese"!!



Everything tastes better with Coon.



http://www.coon.com.au
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Hey...we have a cheese here called "Coon Cheese"!!



Everything tastes better with Coon.



http://www.coon.com.au

 :swoon:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 13, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Everybody should celebrate the differences.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 13, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
I do. Every night I celebrate that I was not brought up in a cousin-fucking shithole that resulted in stunted intelligence males so lacking in male confidence that they cover and lock up their females.



Wait!! We have that here now. We can celebrate those "differences" up close  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: RW on July 13, 2015, 05:23:53 PM
That's a harsh truth right there cc.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2015, 06:33:41 PM
God bless America.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 16, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Athiests bless America too.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"Athiests bless America too.

Everyone has left their mark Lance.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on July 21, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
We are all the same. Everybody must be more tolerant.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: keeper on July 23, 2015, 09:06:38 AM
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"We are all the same. Everybody must be more tolerant.


We are NOT all the same TYVM
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 26, 2015, 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"We are all the same. ..... further bs

O Romerio, Romerio! Wherefore art thou Romerio?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2015, 03:02:52 PM
Quote from: "Well Hung"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"What about saying Asians can't drive.

They CAN'T drive.  It is a well known fact.

FUCK OFF!! :t1929:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 26, 2015, 03:53:30 PM
People who don't grow up in driving cultures or if their culture is somewhat new to it, often don't drive well. I've noticed that Westernized Asians or Africans (2nd or 3rd generation) drive just fine. It's the imports who struggle with driving.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2015, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"People who don't grow up in driving cultures or if their culture is somewhat new to it, often don't drive well. I've noticed that Westernized Asians or Africans (2nd or 3rd generation) drive just fine. It's the imports who struggle with driving.

You're Waycist!!
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 26, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
This round eye made a cultural observation, squint eye.
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2015, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"This round eye made a cultural observation, squint eye.

 :roll:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 26, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
All whites are waccist
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Frood on July 26, 2015, 05:38:41 PM
How much for Waccist Manor? How many square?
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2015, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"All whites are waccist

no
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 27, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
When I use the word "waccist" it's a good clue I'm kidding / making fun of those lazy people who try to paint others as racist
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"When I use the word "waccist" it's a good clue I'm kidding / making fun of those lazy people who try to paint others as racist

Now that's weally waycist. :001_tongue:
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: cc on July 27, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
typical  PC idiot  ac_smile
Title: Re: Racism
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2015, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"typical  PC idiot  ac_smile

Guilty as charged.
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