14 months gaol for leaking an album by Madonna.
http://www.skynews.com.au/culture/showbiz/music/2015/07/11/man-jailed-for-leaking-madonna-s-album.html?cid=BP_RSS_sn-showbiz_3_man-jailed-for-leaking-madonna-s-album_110715
Meantime, a woman on ice walks after hitting a child at a crossing.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-26/motorist-who-hit-schoolboy-acquitted-meth-can-help-drivers/6574902
Justice system? 
What fucking justice system?
			
			
			
				Child protective services have nothing to say about that woman being around her kids while high?
			
			
			
				Child services has become a huge joke. They are becoming more and more like legal kid nappers, than family advocates. After some of the shit I've personally witnessed other people go through, I wouldn't let them in my house unless they had a signed by a judge court order, a detailed list of the accusations against me and they agree to let everything be recorded. They lie.
			
			
			
				Sounds like a good idea to me.
			
			
			
				Our Child Services is under huge scrutiny, as recent deaths of children have exposed them as a useless, impotent and socialistic.
They are seeking to recruit ex-cops as their field staff, because their current personnel lack the fortitude to take decisions that save childrens' lives.
Its a major political storm here.
			
			
			
				It's like that here too.  They are to be "supportive" with removal being the last resort.
			
			
			
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their current personnel lack the fortitude to take decisions that save childrens' lives.
 cuts both  ways .. often removed when they should not be, often left with horrible and dangerous people
It does come down to people with the savvy and guts to make right decisions based only on what is evident and wisely in the gut ....  not on personal agenda or lack of ability and / or guts to make good calls
If there is an area that needs only "special" people, that is it
			 
			
			
				I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
Good luck with that. Sounds like you have the respect of both parties so your efforts won't go in vain. Eventually you should be able to get them into the peace groove around their child.
			 
			
			
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It's like that here too.  They are to be "supportive" with removal being the last resort.
 cps here has loads of lawsuits against them. They will use bully tactics and make threats, and people unaware of their rights intimidate and do whatever these nazis ask. The worst thing you can do when confronted with cps is cooperate with them. If they show up, it's hardball time. And no one comes into my home and privately interrogates my children without a court order and tape recorder that I provide and keep...or an attorney present. These people overreach.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
A tough job, but that's Great of you GrAnnie! Friends need some good, sound support during these times and the kids deserve the best of interests.
I'm sure your friends are nice. It's just unreal how breakups and custody battles can change people and everything else. It's rough but you're a true friend.
			 
			
			
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				Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
SPECTRE'S recipe for personal disaster.
Take one family dispute, preferably involving children. Simmer for several months.
Add a court hearing.
Offer to become an intermediary...or moderator.
Wait 3 months.
			 
			
			
				Canada is different from you eh
			
			
			
				Unless its NOT populated by humans, no.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
SPECTRE'S recipe for personal disaster.
Take one family dispute, preferably involving children. Simmer for several months.
Add a court hearing.
Offer to become an intermediary...or moderator.
Wait 3 months.
Have you never heard of happy stories? I prefer to think of those in these situations. Sometimes an intermediary is all that's needed to put things into context for those trying times. 
Happy stories are out there. Maybe they're not rampant, but they still exist.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
SPECTRE'S recipe for personal disaster.
Take one family dispute, preferably involving children. Simmer for several months.
Add a court hearing.
Offer to become an intermediary...or moderator.
Wait 3 months.
Have you never heard of happy stories? I prefer to think of those in these situations. Sometimes an intermediary is all that's needed to put things into context for those trying times. 
Happy stories are out there. Maybe they're not rampant, but they still exist.
Sugarplum if you actually knew anything about me, you would know I've been around, and had a LOT of experience in family disputes.
If there any happy stories, I've yet to see one, where parents are in dispute.
Stick to changing band-aids and emptying bedpans.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "GrAnnie"
I have a friends who's fighting for her daughter to be returned to her.  Social Services removed her from her care and put her in her Dad's care because he didn't like the guy she has living with her. The Dad and his Mom want full custody. Previously the Mother had fully custody. I went to court yesterday with her for emotional support and her lawyer suggested a middle person to act between parties when they can't agree. She appointed me, and he agreed, since I know them both well and am on good terms with both of them.  I said yes and gave all my info. I have no criminal record, not even a speeding ticket  (I don't drive lol) So I'll be the "supervisor" at visits. All parties are very nice people, they just can't agree and all want to keep the daughter for themselves.  I think joint custody would be in the best interest of the daughter as she is only 4 and they live close together anyways.  But I'm just there to keep the peace, I am able to stop them from bickering, especially in front of their daughter.
SPECTRE'S recipe for personal disaster.
Take one family dispute, preferably involving children. Simmer for several months.
Add a court hearing.
Offer to become an intermediary...or moderator.
Wait 3 months.
Have you never heard of happy stories? I prefer to think of those in these situations. Sometimes an intermediary is all that's needed to put things into context for those trying times. 
Happy stories are out there. Maybe they're not rampant, but they still exist.
Sugarplum if you actually knew anything about me, you would know I've been around, and had a LOT of experience in family disputes.
If there any happy stories, I've yet to see one, where parents are in dispute.
Stick to changing band-aids and emptying bedpans.
Where as I've seen my fair share of disputes left behind for the child's sake. It's rarer but it does happen. 
You must not be very good at your job if you're surrounded by non happy stories. It probably doesn't help that you're a blowhard either.
			 
			
			
				There are damn few happy stories in these types of situations. If there were happy stories, Child Protective Services would not need to get involved. Even when or if a situation ends on a good note, the emotional, mental and all too often physical damage is already done.
Arguing the pros and cons of these kinds of situations is like arguing which color turd is prettier.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Dove"
Child services has become a huge joke. They are becoming more and more like legal kid nappers, than family advocates. After some of the shit I've personally witnessed other people go through, I wouldn't let them in my house unless they had a signed by a judge court order, a detailed list of the accusations against me and they agree to let everything be recorded. They lie.
There are some people who should not be allowed to raise a cat let alone a child.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Wulf"
There are damn few happy stories in these types of situations. If there were happy stories, Child Protective Services would not need to get involved. Even when or if a situation ends on a good note, the emotional, mental and all too often physical damage is already done.
Arguing the pros and cons of these kinds of situations is like arguing which color turd is prettier.
I agree.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dove"
Child services has become a huge joke. They are becoming more and more like legal kid nappers, than family advocates. After some of the shit I've personally witnessed other people go through, I wouldn't let them in my house unless they had a signed by a judge court order, a detailed list of the accusations against me and they agree to let everything be recorded. They lie.
There are some people who should not be allowed to raise a cat let alone a child.
 Agreed. And those people are exactly who cps will give children too. Foster homes are known for abuse.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
It probably doesn't help that you're a blowhard either.
Oooo...nursey gettin' frisky. "Blowhard"?
Did you think that up all by yourself, or did you get some help from the "Flaming for Idiots"?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
It probably doesn't help that you're a blowhard either.
Oooo...nursey gettin' frisky. "Blowhard"?
Did you think that up all by yourself, or did you get some help from the "Flaming for Idiots"?
Are you going to huff and puff then blow my house down?  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
				No. Just highlight your idiocy.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No. Just highlight your idiocy.
Now what?  ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
				I don't need pretty colours, toots.
A simple quotation tells our members all they need to know.
Here's an oxymoron for you.
"Intelligent Nurse".
You'll get it eventually.
			
			
			
				You so want me and I so don't want anything you think you're in a position to give me. Don't mistake my playful banter as an invitation for you to flog your noodle. Respect the boundaries. Me, aggressor. You, prey.  ac_biggrin
			
			
			
				Honeybunch, you are a nurse.
When's the last time YOU saw a nurse that was remotely appealing to members of the opposite sex.
			
			
			
				Don't fish for my particulars. I'm not interested in old knuckle draggers like yourself.
			
			
			
				Deflect all you like...it merely answers the question as I presumed you would. 
Why is a swimming pool different to a nurse?
You can touch the sides of a swimming pool.
			
			
			
				I bet you talk dirty to nurses every day.
When they're changing your nappies.