Title: God
Post by: RW on July 28, 2015, 11:17:02 PM
Post by: RW on July 28, 2015, 11:17:02 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2015, 11:58:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2015, 11:58:54 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 12:15:16 AM
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 12:15:16 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
What's sinful about martital relations?Quote from: "RW"
I wasn't talking about sex, sorry. I was extremely agitated with him and pretty demanding and ungrateful that day. I was mean. Self focused. In the flesh ;)
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 02:07:21 AM
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 02:07:21 AM
My version was funner though.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 02:50:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 02:50:08 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 02:53:16 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 02:53:16 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 02:58:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 02:58:00 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 03:47:51 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 03:47:51 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 04:34:56 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 04:34:56 AM
Is his name Bob?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
who? My brother?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 04:37:12 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 04:37:12 AM
He wants you to have a relationship with God, or himself?My oldest brother would like me to have a relationship with him, he keeps asking me.Quote from: "Keeper"
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
My oldest brother would like me to have a relationship with him, he keeps asking me.Quote from: "Keeper"
With God. Sorry i should have specified. Its 3am here and im not feeling well.
My bother is a Pastor.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 05:54:54 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 05:54:54 AM
I hope you know that if you have questions or issues that you don't feel comfortable addressing with your brother, but you toss around in your mind...you can come to me and/or Fash.Quote from: "Dove"
Long story short, I was brought up in "religious" family and was force feed the bible and their beliefs until i left home.
respectfully i have no use or need to have a relationship with our lord and savior, he has let me down more then once.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 05:59:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 05:59:35 AM
Discuss.Quote from: "RW"
God is with me always..
His wishes and blessings for my family are sought continuously throughout every single day.
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:10:24 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:10:24 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:11:32 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 06:11:32 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:55:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:55:02 AM
Yeah....I used to say all that too.I hope you know that if you have questions or issues that you don't feel comfortable addressing with your brother, but you toss around in your mind...you can come to me and/or Fash.Quote from: "Dove"
Long story short, I was brought up in "religious" family and was force feed the bible and their beliefs until i left home.
respectfully i have no use or need to have a relationship with our lord and savior, he has let me down more then once.
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
I hope you know that if you have questions or issues that you don't feel comfortable addressing with your brother, but you toss around in your mind...you can come to me and/or Fash.Quote from: "Dove"
Long story short, I was brought up in "religious" family and was force feed the bible and their beliefs until i left home.
respectfully i have no use or need to have a relationship with our lord and savior, he has let me down more then once.
And i have a reason to "say that"
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:59:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:59:14 AM
So did I.I hope you know that if you have questions or issues that you don't feel comfortable addressing with your brother, but you toss around in your mind...you can come to me and/or Fash.Quote from: "Dove"
Long story short, I was brought up in "religious" family and was force feed the bible and their beliefs until i left home.
respectfully i have no use or need to have a relationship with our lord and savior, he has let me down more then once.
And i have a reason to "say that"
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:10:07 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:10:07 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
Post by: keeper on July 29, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 03:42:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 03:42:56 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:52:13 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:52:13 PM
I am sorry it appeared to be insulting you. It was in error.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
I apologise...that came across as being directed at you personally and that wasn't my intent. I just thought the cartoon was funny in howQuote from: "SPECTRE"it reflected a lot of false believers is all.I am sorry it appeared to be insulting you. It was in error.
I was not offended by the cartoon you posted SPECTRE..
A false believer is worse than a non believer.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:05:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:05:19 PM
I apologise...that came across as being directed at you personally and that wasn't my intent. I just thought the cartoon was funny in how it reflected a lot of false believers is all.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I am sorry it appeared to be insulting you. It was in error.
Got it. I wasn't offended, I just thought you were calling me a jerk and couldn't understand why. Lol. Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
I got banned from commenting on the Osteen page because I was posting "inflammatory" scriptures. Yep.I apologise...that came across as being directed at you personally and that wasn't my intent. I just thought the cartoon was funny in howQuote from: "SPECTRE"it reflected a lot of false believers is all.I am sorry it appeared to be insulting you. It was in error.
I was not offended by the cartoon you posted SPECTRE..
A false believer is worse than a non believer.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:10:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:10:37 PM
I apologise...that came across as being directed at you personally and that wasn't my intent. I just thought the cartoon was funny in howQuote from: "SPECTRE"it reflected a lot of false believers is all.I am sorry it appeared to be insulting you. It was in error.
I was not offended by the cartoon you posted SPECTRE..
A false believer is worse than a non believer.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:36:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:36:08 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
1st Timothy 6:3 on.....prosperity gospel fans find it inflammatory.Quote from: "Dove"
I seldom watch a televangelist for more than a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:48:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:48:34 PM
I can't stomach it. I saw this infomercail called the 'prophets touch' and it was all I could do not to call them and preach lol. My in laws listen to Meyers and Osteen a lot, read their books. I had to gently tell my mother in law that if we have our "best life now", that could only be true if we are on our way to hell.1st Timothy 6:3 on.....prosperity gospel fans find it inflammatory.Quote from: "Dove"
I seldom watch a televangelist for more than a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: God
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:59:44 AM
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:59:44 AM
The boyfriend was drunk and suddenly he got angry and started hitting and threatening to kill his girlfriend.
We stopped off somewhere, got out, and he began throwing objects at her.
I think they were unopened beer cans. Cripes he could have killed or severely maimed her.
I got so scared and fearful for her safety that when she got in and we drove off without taking him with us.
He phoned her back and demanded we turn back but I just kept on driving.
That incident really traumatized me and I'm still angry at the guy.
He was so awful that he was worse than the most violent and ill behaved child I've ever encountered.
He was scary and I really thought he was gonna kill her or physically destroy her.
I'm not terribly religious, but at that point I actually wished there was a God.
At that moment, I knew what pure evil in humans looks and sounds like.
And when you see it you actually wish that some higher power would deliver us from that iniquity.
I dunno. Maybe the hand of some God was guiding me to save her that night.
Any event, that incident still bothers and haunts me a great deal
I had gotten "in the flesh" with my husband and was driving to work feeling hopelessly sinful and talking to God about how I feel like a perpetual train wreck. I looked up to see the clouds were gold, the sunset sky was so beautiful, and then "I would die for you" by prince came on the radio. God is comfort and deep inner peace ♡Quote from: "Dove"
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 01:15:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 01:15:16 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:10:11 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:10:11 AM
I was driving a couple I knew somewhere on the weekend and they were sitting in the backseat.Quote from: "Frank"
The boyfriend was drunk and suddenly he got angry and started hitting and threatening to kill his girlfriend.
We stopped off somewhere, got out, and he began throwing objects at her.
I think they were unopened beer cans. Cripes he could have killed or severely maimed her.
I got so scared and fearful for her safety that when she got in and we drove off without taking him with us.
He phoned her back and demanded we turn back but I just kept on driving.
That incident really traumatized me and I'm still angry at the guy.
He was so awful that he was worse than the most violent and ill behaved child I've ever encountered.
He was scary and I really thought he was gonna kill her or physically destroy her.
I'm not terribly religious, but at that point I actually wished there was a God.
At that moment, I knew what pure evil in humans looks and sounds like.
And when you see it you actually wish that some higher power would deliver us from that iniquity.
I dunno. Maybe the hand of some God was guiding me to save her that night.
Any event, that incident still bothers and haunts me a great dealI had gotten "in the flesh" with my husband and was driving to work feeling hopelessly sinful and talking to God about how I feel like a perpetual train wreck. I looked up to see the clouds were gold, the sunset sky was so beautiful, and then "I would die for you" by prince came on the radio. God is comfort and deep inner peace ♡Quote from: "Dove"
With respect and sympathy you think THAT represents the evil humans are capable of?
Oh, man...you ain't seen nuthin'.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:12:05 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:12:05 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 03:38:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 03:38:17 AM
It's one thing to see some evil, have knowledge of evil. We toss around the word evil to label things we inherently know are wrong. Then you have a moment where the "scales drop off your eyes", and you actually see the evil...with more than your mind. You see it crystal clear, and it is traumatizing. It's not simply the drunk ranting guy that stabbed him in his core....it was the evil in it that God allowed him to see.I was driving a couple I knew somewhere on the weekend and they were sitting in the backseat.Quote from: "Frank"
The boyfriend was drunk and suddenly he got angry and started hitting and threatening to kill his girlfriend.
We stopped off somewhere, got out, and he began throwing objects at her.
I think they were unopened beer cans. Cripes he could have killed or severely maimed her.
I got so scared and fearful for her safety that when she got in and we drove off without taking him with us.
He phoned her back and demanded we turn back but I just kept on driving.
That incident really traumatized me and I'm still angry at the guy.
He was so awful that he was worse than the most violent and ill behaved child I've ever encountered.
He was scary and I really thought he was gonna kill her or physically destroy her.
I'm not terribly religious, but at that point I actually wished there was a God.
At that moment, I knew what pure evil in humans looks and sounds like.
And when you see it you actually wish that some higher power would deliver us from that iniquity.
I dunno. Maybe the hand of some God was guiding me to save her that night.
Any event, that incident still bothers and haunts me a great dealI had gotten "in the flesh" with my husband and was driving to work feeling hopelessly sinful and talking to God about how I feel like a perpetual train wreck. I looked up to see the clouds were gold, the sunset sky was so beautiful, and then "I would die for you" by prince came on the radio. God is comfort and deep inner peace ♡Quote from: "Dove"
With respect and sympathy you think THAT represents the evil humans are capable of?
Oh, man...you ain't seen nuthin'.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 04:22:04 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 04:22:04 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 30, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
Post by: RW on July 30, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 01:30:12 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 01:30:12 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 02:28:58 AM
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 02:28:58 AM
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 05:06:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 05:06:09 AM
I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.
Mark 10:18
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 05:08:54 AM
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 05:08:54 AM
Why not just do terrible things and find God at the end of it and go to Heaven?!
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 31, 2015, 06:46:13 AM
Post by: keeper on July 31, 2015, 06:46:13 AM
I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.
Silly RW
See, I was told the decent people who behaved and never fucked around get to live in beautiful palaces and get waited on hand and foot, And the born agains are our servants
True Story. Sorry i dont have the "Timothy" for it.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 06:49:22 AM
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 06:49:22 AM
I said decent, not good :)Quote from: "RW"
Why not just do terrible things and find God at the end of it and go to Heaven?!
Alternately why not do what you think is right and not worry about the afterlife, if any does in fact exist, and let the cards fall there?
Like Keeper implied, maybe the earth dwelling god crazies are a lower caste in the afterlife.
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on July 31, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
Post by: keeper on July 31, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
I said decent, not good :)Quote from: "RW"
Why not just do terrible things and find God at the end of it and go to Heaven?!
Alternately why not do what you think is right and not worry about the afterlife, if any does in fact exist, and let the cards fall there?
Like Keeper implied,maybethe earth dwelling god crazies are a lower caste in the afterlife.
Maybe???
MAYBE???
I always tell the truth, Even when i Lie
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 07:49:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 07:49:31 AM
Well sin is sin. Humans put levels on it. God doesnt. That's the thing, you broke His law already. No one meets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what we do as it is about what Jesus did and how we surrender to Him.I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 07:51:34 AM
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 07:51:34 AM
I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.
If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:02:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:02:07 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 08:09:16 AM
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 08:09:16 AM
Why do you assume we care about getting respect from non believers? You either respect us or you dont. That's your business.Quote from: "Dove"
Because religion followers (Christian, Muslim, etcetera) include non followers in their faith system regardless if non followers see any merits or accuracy in them or not at all.
Wouldn't you agree that it's arrogant and inherently dangerous to impose a faith based system on those who do not follow it?
Wouldn't a faith who believes in the potential of all sentient beings to follow a righteous path to enlightenment refrain from imposing its will and interpretations on others?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 09:00:43 AM
Post by: Frood on July 31, 2015, 09:00:43 AM
Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:
I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 31, 2015, 01:35:56 PM
Post by: Gay Boy Roberto on July 31, 2015, 01:35:56 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
It's not very respectful to police how others express their world view. If it doesn't apply, let it fly.Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
Post by: RW on July 31, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 01:49:51 AM
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 01:49:51 AM
I had gotten "in the flesh" with my husband and was driving to work feeling hopelessly sinful and talking to God about how I feel like a perpetual train wreck. I looked up to see the clouds were gold, the sunset sky was so beautiful, and then "I would die for you" by prince came on the radio. God is comfort and deep inner peace ♡Quote from: "Dove"
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 04:50:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 04:50:04 AM
Are Christians just those who can't make it within more structured religions or is there some deeper seeded history to it?Quote from: "RW"
Structured religions are man made..
Christianity is a relationship with the one true God through his son Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 08:07:16 AM
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 08:07:16 AM
Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Yet you incorporated me into what I feel is complete and utter delusion bullshit. How respectful was that of you towards me? If you like to eat bullshit, so be it. Talk about how you like to channel the spirit of the bullshit down your throat, the taste of it, the consistency, or how no other bullshit before or after it will ever attain the level of perfect bullshit flavor and fullness for you, that's fine.
I'll keep thinking, "she likes to eat bullshit. It's a fetish".
However, if you were to say that "in your opinion" or "according to our beliefs", I might be curious. I'd wonder how bullshit could even be palatable. I'd think to myself, how could this person who seems otherwise intelligent want to eat bullshit? Maybe there's some kind sustenance to bullshit? Maybe it's not even bullshit? Maybe I'm full of shit? Maybe I'm just bullheaded and don't know the good shit. Maybe I should delve deeper into this ideology?
Then I'd look at your words again and go "She's already told everyone that she has no respect for different points of view whether spiritually or without. She only has one true way and it's her way. She will shit otherwise meaningless scriptures for a non-believer, challenge their ethics and civic beliefs, and insist that society defer to her beliefs no matter how irrelevant those demands are to her own actual individual existence or that of her immediate family or sphere."
I'd think that such a person was off their rocker. I'd resign myself to ensure that no such unbridled arrogance could EVER have influence in my life, my family's, or within my spheres.
I'd also be warranted in doing so.
I'm fine with what you -think- humanity and myself as part of it should or shouldn't be doing, but you need to start making the distinction when you speak out loud. If you tell me I'm spiritually part of something which I'm not, and you don't respect our current difference in opinion, I will not hesitate to cut you down again and again. I will not accept force or "we" creep in the context of some pie in the sky belief.
You got away with not having anyone challenge your stripper drug days hard enough until you were ready to change gears on your own. Don't demand that the rest of humanity must strip for some sandal, dress wearing Middle East shit stirrer. and latent boyo club guru 2016 years ago so that everyone must snort Holy Spirit out of some deity buttocks because you felt lost long ago and now feel high chemically free for a change.
Alternately, maybe your God is the one and only true God if any God exists at all. All I know is that you're the last person who could ever convince me to even look at your God. Your God sounds conceited, arrogant, self centered, and a completely delusional and insecure fuckstain (as of this posting).
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 11:58:18 AM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 11:58:18 AM
Are Christians just those who can't make it within more structured religions or is there some deeper seeded history to it?Quote from: "RW"
Structured religions are man made..
Christianity is a relationship with the one true God through his son Jesus Christ.
So could you be a Christian and never stop foot in a church?
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 01, 2015, 12:17:28 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 01, 2015, 12:17:28 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
My Mom is a control freak when it comes to this. She thinks we have to go to church every Sunday to be blessed and to pray. I don't believe the same. You can have a relationship with God and pray while you are out in a field, for example. What God will punish me because I did not go to his house?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
It's a house of man.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
Okay well that's a problem you have, and you are going to spend a lot of time offended until you kinda get over yourself.Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Yet you incorporated me into what I feel is complete and utter delusion bullshit. How respectful was that of you towards me? If you like to eat bullshit, so be it. Talk about how you like to channel the spirit of the bullshit down your throat, the taste of it, the consistency, or how no other bullshit before or after it will ever attain the level of perfect bullshit flavor and fullness for you, that's fine.
I'll keep thinking, "she likes to eat bullshit. It's a fetish".
However, if you were to say that "in your opinion" or "according to our beliefs", I might be curious. I'd wonder how bullshit could even be palatable. I'd think to myself, how could this person who seems otherwise intelligent want to eat bullshit? Maybe there's some kind sustenance to bullshit? Maybe it's not even bullshit? Maybe I'm full of shit? Maybe I'm just bullheaded and don't know the good shit. Maybe I should delve deeper into this ideology?
Then I'd look at your words again and go "She's already told everyone that she has no respect for different points of view whether spiritually or without. She only has one true way and it's her way. She will shit otherwise meaningless scriptures for a non-believer, challenge their ethics and civic beliefs, and insist that society defer to her beliefs no matter how irrelevant those demands are to her own actual individual existence or that of her immediate family or sphere."
I'd think that such a person was off their rocker. I'd resign myself to ensure that no such unbridled arrogance could EVER have influence in my life, my family's, or within my spheres.
I'd also be warranted in doing so.
I'm fine with what you -think- humanity and myself as part of it should or shouldn't be doing, but you need to start making the distinction when you speak out loud. If you tell me I'm spiritually part of something which I'm not, and you don't respect our current difference in opinion, I will not hesitate to cut you down again and again. I will not accept force or "we" creep in the context of some pie in the sky belief.
You got away with not having anyone challenge your stripper drug days hard enough until you were ready to change gears on your own. Don't demand that the rest of humanity must strip for some sandal, dress wearing Middle East shit stirrer. and latent boyo club guru 2016 years ago so that everyone must snort Holy Spirit out of some deity buttocks because you felt lost long ago and now feel high chemically free for a change.
Alternately, maybe your God is the one and only true God if any God exists at all. All I know is that you're the last person who could ever convince me to even look at your God. Your God sounds conceited, arrogant, self centered, and a completely delusional and insecure fuckstain (as of this posting).
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:42:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:42:04 PM
If you are a Christain, you ARE, literally, the church. The idea that the church is a building you become a member of is a man made one. We are supposed to get together and pray, study the word, take care of our sick, feed the poor.Are Christians just those who can't make it within more structured religions or is there some deeper seeded history to it?Quote from: "RW"
Structured religions are man made..
Christianity is a relationship with the one true God through his son Jesus Christ.
So could you be a Christian and never stop foot in a church?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
My Mom is a control freak when it comes to this. She thinks we have to go to church every Sunday to be blessed and to pray. I don't believe the same. You can have a relationship with God and pray while you are out in a field, for example. What God will punish me because I did not go to his house?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
It's a house of man.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 08:49:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 08:49:22 PM
I don't. Usually my eyes start to water after 2 lines.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 09:48:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 09:48:44 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 01, 2015, 10:28:20 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 01, 2015, 10:28:20 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 10:51:38 PM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 10:51:38 PM
My Mom is a control freak when it comes to this. She thinks we have to go to church every Sunday to be blessed and to pray. I don't believe the same. You can have a relationship with God and pray while you are out in a field, for example. What God will punish me because I did not go to his house?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
It's a house of man.The Church is called "one body in Christ" in Romans 12:5, "one body" in 1 Corinthians 10:17, "the body of Christ" in 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 4:12, and "the body" in Hebrews 13:3. The Church is clearly equated with "the body" of Christ in Ephesians 5:23 and Colossians 1:24.
What is the definition of church though?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 12:41:00 AM
My Mom is a control freak when it comes to this. She thinks we have to go to church every Sunday to be blessed and to pray. I don't believe the same. You can have a relationship with God and pray while you are out in a field, for example. What God will punish me because I did not go to his house?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
It's a house of man.The Church is called "one body in Christ" in Romans 12:5, "one body" in 1 Corinthians 10:17, "the body of Christ" in 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 4:12, and "the body" in Hebrews 13:3. The Church is clearly equated with "the body" of Christ in Ephesians 5:23 and Colossians 1:24.
What is the definition of church though?
A premises frequented by the mindless and fearful, in the hope that their life will make some kind of sense, and that they will live forever in a fourth dimension in the sky.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:53:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:53:39 AM
That's not even close to the truth in anyway. That's what atheists and lavey satanists think we believe.My Mom is a control freak when it comes to this. She thinks we have to go to church every Sunday to be blessed and to pray. I don't believe the same. You can have a relationship with God and pray while you are out in a field, for example. What God will punish me because I did not go to his house?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
It's a house of man.The Church is called "one body in Christ" in Romans 12:5, "one body" in 1 Corinthians 10:17, "the body of Christ" in 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 4:12, and "the body" in Hebrews 13:3. The Church is clearly equated with "the body" of Christ in Ephesians 5:23 and Colossians 1:24.
What is the definition of church though?
A premises frequented by the mindless and fearful, in the hope that their life will make some kind of sense, and that they will live forever in a fourth dimension in the sky.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 06:12:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 06:12:43 AM
I'm an atheist!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I can tell lol.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 06:35:39 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 06:35:39 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 06:43:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 06:43:38 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 04:05:24 PM
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 04:05:24 PM
Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Yet you incorporated me into what I feel is complete and utter delusion bullshit. How respectful was that of you towards me? If you like to eat bullshit, so be it. Talk about how you like to channel the spirit of the bullshit down your throat, the taste of it, the consistency, or how no other bullshit before or after it will ever attain the level of perfect bullshit flavor and fullness for you, that's fine.
I'll keep thinking, "she likes to eat bullshit. It's a fetish".
However, if you were to say that "in your opinion" or "according to our beliefs", I might be curious. I'd wonder how bullshit could even be palatable. I'd think to myself, how could this person who seems otherwise intelligent want to eat bullshit? Maybe there's some kind sustenance to bullshit? Maybe it's not even bullshit? Maybe I'm full of shit? Maybe I'm just bullheaded and don't know the good shit. Maybe I should delve deeper into this ideology?
Then I'd look at your words again and go "She's already told everyone that she has no respect for different points of view whether spiritually or without. She only has one true way and it's her way. She will shit otherwise meaningless scriptures for a non-believer, challenge their ethics and civic beliefs, and insist that society defer to her beliefs no matter how irrelevant those demands are to her own actual individual existence or that of her immediate family or sphere."
I'd think that such a person was off their rocker. I'd resign myself to ensure that no such unbridled arrogance could EVER have influence in my life, my family's, or within my spheres.
I'd also be warranted in doing so.
I'm fine with what you -think- humanity and myself as part of it should or shouldn't be doing, but you need to start making the distinction when you speak out loud. If you tell me I'm spiritually part of something which I'm not, and you don't respect our current difference in opinion, I will not hesitate to cut you down again and again. I will not accept force or "we" creep in the context of some pie in the sky belief.
You got away with not having anyone challenge your stripper drug days hard enough until you were ready to change gears on your own. Don't demand that the rest of humanity must strip for some sandal, dress wearing Middle East shit stirrer. and latent boyo club guru 2016 years ago so that everyone must snort Holy Spirit out of some deity buttocks because you felt lost long ago and now feel high chemically free for a change.
Alternately, maybe your God is the one and only true God if any God exists at all. All I know is that you're the last person who could ever convince me to even look at your God. Your God sounds conceited, arrogant, self centered, and a completely delusional and insecure fuckstain (as of this posting).
My problem is reacting to the problem-some behaviors of others when they impose themselves uninvited and disrespectfully? That's weird as.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
That's weird and disrespectful too.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 09:34:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 09:34:33 PM
You are willfully coming into a thread titled "God" where Christians are loosely discussing their faith and chosing to take it personally as if it's all about you. You are being the imposing one right now. You can't control other people, so make some peace with that. Just as easily, you can chose to disregard it. I think the key word you used was "react".Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Yet you incorporated me into what I feel is complete and utter delusion bullshit. How respectful was that of you towards me? If you like to eat bullshit, so be it. Talk about how you like to channel the spirit of the bullshit down your throat, the taste of it, the consistency, or how no other bullshit before or after it will ever attain the level of perfect bullshit flavor and fullness for you, that's fine.
I'll keep thinking, "she likes to eat bullshit. It's a fetish".
However, if you were to say that "in your opinion" or "according to our beliefs", I might be curious. I'd wonder how bullshit could even be palatable. I'd think to myself, how could this person who seems otherwise intelligent want to eat bullshit? Maybe there's some kind sustenance to bullshit? Maybe it's not even bullshit? Maybe I'm full of shit? Maybe I'm just bullheaded and don't know the good shit. Maybe I should delve deeper into this ideology?
Then I'd look at your words again and go "She's already told everyone that she has no respect for different points of view whether spiritually or without. She only has one true way and it's her way. She will shit otherwise meaningless scriptures for a non-believer, challenge their ethics and civic beliefs, and insist that society defer to her beliefs no matter how irrelevant those demands are to her own actual individual existence or that of her immediate family or sphere."
I'd think that such a person was off their rocker. I'd resign myself to ensure that no such unbridled arrogance could EVER have influence in my life, my family's, or within my spheres.
I'd also be warranted in doing so.
I'm fine with what you -think- humanity and myself as part of it should or shouldn't be doing, but you need to start making the distinction when you speak out loud. If you tell me I'm spiritually part of something which I'm not, and you don't respect our current difference in opinion, I will not hesitate to cut you down again and again. I will not accept force or "we" creep in the context of some pie in the sky belief.
You got away with not having anyone challenge your stripper drug days hard enough until you were ready to change gears on your own. Don't demand that the rest of humanity must strip for some sandal, dress wearing Middle East shit stirrer. and latent boyo club guru 2016 years ago so that everyone must snort Holy Spirit out of some deity buttocks because you felt lost long ago and now feel high chemically free for a change.
Alternately, maybe your God is the one and only true God if any God exists at all. All I know is that you're the last person who could ever convince me to even look at your God. Your God sounds conceited, arrogant, self centered, and a completely delusional and insecure fuckstain (as of this posting).
My problem is reacting to the problem-some behaviors of others when they impose themselves uninvited and disrespectfully? That's weird as.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 11:14:58 AM
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 11:14:58 AM
My problem is reacting to the problem-some behaviors of others when they impose themselves uninvited and disrespectfully? That's weird as.
Are you saying that I can't participate in a thread about god discussions unless I accept your belief system or at the very minimum, existence of a god as you view it?
We don't have to agree and we can still discuss such matters without agreeing. It's not like this thread is a Church and I walked in and started picking things apart which I don't really care about one way or another.
My point was and still is "If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people".
Would it be so horrible if you prefaced your beliefs with a "we believe, in our faith, that.." or whatever instead of:
"Well
Being civil and respectful isn't imposing or being imposed upon. Think about it.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Dd, I understand what you are saying. But this is how I see it. Regardless of whether you believe in God or not, I do, so if you feel the need to correct the way I speak maybe your best bet is to avoid talking about it. My view says everyone is accountable to God, including nonbelievers. You don't have to agree, but really....you can't impose your emotions onto how I express my world view if you are chosing to discuss it. I just spent all morning researching the dark web. I hate people right now.Quote from: "Dove"
I've got no emotions invested in this subject and was pointing out civil matters as in civic (diplomacy). You're entitled to your view as I am to mine. There's no issue with our disagreement on the topic of gods. You worship, I don't, whatever.
A spoonful of sugar and all.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 07:23:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 07:23:27 PM
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
I think it is more than 6000 thousand years ago Spectre..
In the Book of Job, dinosaur-like creatures are mentioned and so they appear to have existed at the same time that Adam and Eve and their descendants existed..
Job describes what sounds very much like a dinosaur in Job 40:15-24:
15 "Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
6000 years.
Before that?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 06:56:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 06:56:38 AM
God was not created.Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 06:57:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 06:57:59 AM
Also talks about leviathan. People always think we don't believe that dinosaurs were here.Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
I think it is more than 6000 thousand years ago Spectre..
In the Book of Job, dinosaur-like creatures are mentioned and so they appear to have existed at the same time that Adam and Eve and their descendants existed..
Job describes what sounds very much like a dinosaur in Job 40:15-24:
15 "Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
You are not able to say that.
You have no knowledge, proof, evidence, fact or even hint.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 07:37:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2015, 07:37:34 AM
God is infinite. God is the creator, not the created. That's hard for people to understand because you were born and you will die. We are subject to laws of science that God is soviergn over. God doesn't even answer to time. I have knowledge of this. Proof is another thing. There is some evidence. Thousands get the hint.Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
You are not able to say that.
You have no knowledge, proof, evidence, fact or even hint.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on August 04, 2015, 09:57:23 AM
Post by: Frood on August 04, 2015, 09:57:23 AM
Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
Serious question here. What made God?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
You are not able to say that.
You have no knowledge, proof, evidence, fact or even hint.
So, there's always been a god, but we're only 6,000 (your comment) years old?
Man, he must have been bored shitless.
Many would wonder what he was doing for infinity until we came along.
Anyway...I'm sure there is a mantra or doctrine that explains that in a logical and rational way.
I'm not really THAT interested.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
Nothing, God is infinite.Let me see if I understand this Christian god correctly.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He is omnipotent and omniescent. Around 3,000 years ago, he decided to create Earth (and the rest of the solar system, which seems to be a huge waste of real estate). Then he decided to populate it with man (who couldn't figure out why there were dinosaur bones that pre-date him), in his image. We are his only children.
May I ask, what was this deity doing before that? Where did HE come from? Who created him? Was he created just 3,000 years ago too? In that case, is there a Dinosaur God?
Let there be enlightenment.
Serious question here. What made God?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Bricktop on August 05, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 05, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
If God is infinite, why isn't man, or space, or time?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 09:21:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 09:21:23 AM
That is a nonsensical and irrational answer.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
If God is infinite, why isn't man, or space, or time?
Why aren't we God?
"He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn't live in man-made temples, and human hands can't serve his needs—for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need" (Acts 17:24-25)
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
He created those things. Outside of it is eternity. There is nothing nonsensical or irrational about this. Nonsensical and irrational is attempting to make sense of the infinite by making finite in our finite minds. Trying to make sense of a being beyond us by condescending Him to our level is irrational. We have a beginning and ending. God doesnt. We ate under the linear time dimension, God isnt. You can't fathom this because we are subject to time, try to imagine an existence devoid of time....you cant. You just have to accept it. It's only irrational to you because you are reasoning based on the very little knowledge you have on the very little knowledge humans have in general have on how the universe works. Keep in mind Tesla was thought to be a madman. No one reaches greater knowledge or deeper understanding playing on the shallow end....just sayin. Text books and science changes consistently to accommodate new information, yet the bible stays the same and makes more sense as new knowledge comes in. Like the round earth, thermodynamics, and springs in the ocean. When you start thinking outside of the confines of self things get clearer....you start understanding we know nothing at all. The more you know, the more you realize you know nothing. So really, what's irrational?That is a nonsensical and irrational answer.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
If God is infinite, why isn't man, or space, or time?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 11:15:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2015, 11:15:59 AM
It always gets me when people say, Christians are in this box of religion and are not free thinkers.....and you see statements like that one. Scripture teaches us to think in terms of eternity....the world forces directed and rule based thought that goes with current culture and modern understanding and anything outside of that is considered either ignorance or insanity. It's so backwards.That is a nonsensical and irrational answer.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
If God is infinite, why isn't man, or space, or time?
Why aren't we God?
"He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn't live in man-made temples, and human hands can't serve his needs—for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need" (Acts 17:24-25)
Title: Re: God
Post by: J0E on August 05, 2015, 11:22:31 AM
Post by: J0E on August 05, 2015, 11:22:31 AM
Instead of finding any common ground, she will purposely find something to disagree with & your discussion with her will end up in a recursive loop. A bit of a battleaxe this one:
...I suppose hormones have somethin' ta do with it too.
Dd, how many times do I have to repeat, that you cannot force faith into a person? That even the bible teaches that? That bible believing Christians simply don't go there with politics? Fash even stated this. How many times do you need this said? Are you reading it this time?Quote from: "Dove"
I was remarking about this:I don't understand something about the whole God thing....Quote from: "RW"
You can be a huge piece of shit and do terrible things in your life and all will be forgiven if you repent while a person who has been decent and who has done nothing terribly bad will not go to the kingdom of heaven.
I can't help but feel just a little resentful of the born agains who got to fuck around while the rest of us behaved.sin is sin. Humans put levels on it.God doesnt. That's the thing, youbroke His law already. No onemeets the holy standard. It's not so much about behaving or what wedo as it is about what Jesus did and how wesurrender to Him. If you could replace the plurals with singulars in that statement, religious people would be more respected by nonreligious people.
If you would have prefaced with "In our belief, our interpretations of sin are shared sins across all humanity. We believe that humans put levels on it. Our own perception of God doesn't. That's the thing, according to our way of thinking, humanity broke his law already. We feel that non one could meet the holy standard of our faith but we strive for it regardless. It's not so much about behaving or actions in our faith but out belief in Jesus and his actions which we, as Christians, want to surrender to."
See how easy that was? It's respectful of other ways too.
Yet you incorporated me into what I feel is complete and utter delusion bullshit. How respectful was that of you towards me? If you like to eat bullshit, so be it. Talk about how you like to channel the spirit of the bullshit down your throat, the taste of it, the consistency, or how no other bullshit before or after it will ever attain the level of perfect bullshit flavor and fullness for you, that's fine.
I'll keep thinking, "she likes to eat bullshit. It's a fetish".
However, if you were to say that "in your opinion" or "according to our beliefs", I might be curious. I'd wonder how bullshit could even be palatable. I'd think to myself, how could this person who seems otherwise intelligent want to eat bullshit? Maybe there's some kind sustenance to bullshit? Maybe it's not even bullshit? Maybe I'm full of shit? Maybe I'm just bullheaded and don't know the good shit. Maybe I should delve deeper into this ideology?
Then I'd look at your words again and go "She's already told everyone that she has no respect for different points of view whether spiritually or without. She only has one true way and it's her way. She will shit otherwise meaningless scriptures for a non-believer, challenge their ethics and civic beliefs, and insist that society defer to her beliefs no matter how irrelevant those demands are to her own actual individual existence or that of her immediate family or sphere."
I'd think that such a person was off their rocker. I'd resign myself to ensure that no such unbridled arrogance could EVER have influence in my life, my family's, or within my spheres.
I'd also be warranted in doing so.
I'm fine with what you -think- humanity and myself as part of it should or shouldn't be doing, but you need to start making the distinction when you speak out loud. If you tell me I'm spiritually part of something which I'm not, and you don't respect our current difference in opinion, I will not hesitate to cut you down again and again. I will not accept force or "we" creep in the context of some pie in the sky belief.
You got away with not having anyone challenge your stripper drug days hard enough until you were ready to change gears on your own. Don't demand that the rest of humanity must strip for some sandal, dress wearing Middle East shit stirrer. and latent boyo club guru 2016 years ago so that everyone must snort Holy Spirit out of some deity buttocks because you felt lost long ago and now feel high chemically free for a change.
Alternately, maybe your God is the one and only true God if any God exists at all. All I know is that you're the last person who could ever convince me to even look at your God. Your God sounds conceited, arrogant, self centered, and a completely delusional and insecure fuckstain (as of this posting).
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on August 05, 2015, 11:27:33 AM
Post by: keeper on August 05, 2015, 11:27:33 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: cc on August 05, 2015, 11:48:16 AM
Post by: cc on August 05, 2015, 11:48:16 AM
:howdy: We all deserve to be heard and we all have an opinion. That's why were here.
Bingo!!
If we can't express personal stuff that matters to us without being stomped on or belittled, the place will become uncomfortable ... which is exactly the opposite of what the I believe the site creators ... funny that I used that word
I believe that the intentions of those who created and maintain this site where the best intentions I have ever encountered - I think we all need to compliment those intentions by respecting others "personal" feelings and beliefs .. and for sure not attack "personally" if we don't feel the same way.
Now, beliefs outside of the personal, like political etc. are fair game, right?
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 08, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 08, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
:howdy: We all deserve to be heard and we all have an opinion. That's why were here.
Yes, I agree with that. I am just against posters implying that their lifestyles are better than others because that is debatable. I am pretty happy with my lifestyle and I am not interested in the lifestyles of others. I've been around, I've done a lot, I've had little, I've had plenty, I've seen enough. I am finally where I want to be and I continue to marvel at the surprises that come my way. While I've learned a lot from life, I continue to be a pupil of the universe and welcome new things from my daily encounters. I conclude that as I have breath, each day is an exciting day.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
:howdy: We all deserve to be heard and we all have an opinion. That's why were here.
Yes, I agree with that. I am just against posters implying that their lifestyles are better than others because that is debatable. I am pretty happy with my lifestyle and I am not interested in the lifestyles of others. I've been around, I've done a lot, I've had little, I've had plenty, I've seen enough. I am finally where I want to be and I continue to marvel at the surprises that come my way. While I've learned a lot from life, I continue to be a pupil of the universe and welcome new things from my daily encounters. I conclude that as I have breath, each day is an exciting day.
That's a healthy outlook Azhya.
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on August 11, 2015, 12:50:41 AM
Post by: keeper on August 11, 2015, 12:50:41 AM
:howdy: We all deserve to be heard and we all have an opinion. That's why were here.
Yes, I agree with that. I am just against posters implying that their lifestyles are better than others because that is debatable. I am pretty happy with my lifestyle and I am not interested in the lifestyles of others. I've been around, I've done a lot, I've had little, I've had plenty, I've seen enough. I am finally where I want to be and I continue to marvel at the surprises that come my way. While I've learned a lot from life, I continue to be a pupil of the universe and welcome new things from my daily encounters. I conclude that as I have breath, each day is an exciting day.
That's a healthy outlook Azhya.
ac_smile
I loved reading that, put a smile on my face
Title: Re: God
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2015, 06:56:47 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2015, 06:56:47 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
ac_dance ac_hithere :yahoo:
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Frood on September 14, 2015, 12:23:20 PM
Post by: Frood on September 14, 2015, 12:23:20 PM
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2015, 01:06:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2015, 01:06:38 AM
I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
It doesn't bother me. As long as the spaghetti chef in the sky is not the reason for severed heads.
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 09:14:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 09:14:07 AM
I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That explains why no one can discuss it without you hanging on every word. And yeah cancel carbs, lose wieght. No one here is a pastaferian.
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Frood on September 16, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Post by: Frood on September 16, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That explains why no one can discuss it without you hanging on every word. And yeah cancel carbs, lose wieght. No one here is a pastaferian.
I've left the topic alone but you enjoy dragging realists into your demented discussions about fictional icons, even when I stated I wasn't interested. Typical religious behavior that is. They smear the world around them with their retarded bullshit and then blame the nonbelievers for it.
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 10:15:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 10:15:35 AM
bringing it up during a conversation that couldn't be farther from it doesn't qualify as "leaving it alone". In order to "leave it alone", you'd simply not acknowledge it. Which you continually show you are incapable of doing. I can't stand golf.....so...I won't even click on discussions about it. And I certainly wouldnt start yammering about it in a conversation about cat pee. You are not a "realist" btw. You are commy lib bigot. You don't know how to be a realist and if you had your way everyone would be trapped in a secular dictatorship. Grow up and respect other views if you wish to be taken seriously.I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That explains why no one can discuss it without you hanging on every word. And yeah cancel carbs, lose wieght. No one here is a pastaferian.
I've left the topic alone but you enjoy dragging realists into your demented discussions about fictional icons, even when I stated I wasn't interested. Typical religious behavior that is. They smear the world around them with their retarded bullshit and then blame the nonbelievers for it.
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 10:19:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 10:19:49 AM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 16, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
Post by: Frood on September 16, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
There she goes again pushing her fruit loop psychosis on anyone who doesn't bow down to her make believe noodle in the sky pasta overlord or rejects efforts by the religious nutters to smear their feces across society. It's always everyone else who are wrong, bigots, or dictatorship lackeys but never the loonies like Dove.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
Title: Re: Helter-Skelter
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Are you a fucking mental case or just plain stupid? Who the fuck cares if someone believes in dieties, saints, sacred underwear, the Easter Bunny or the tooth fairy? Strange as they may seem, they are not commanded to kill us the way that death cult called Islam does.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
But the reality is, you are smearing your secular feces in religious themed threads you are in no way obligated to even click on. You are doing it to yourself, dipshit. I don't care what you believe in. You are the one inserting yourself and having tantrums.Quote from: "Dove"
⇡ Temper tantrum after being exposed as a pushy religious fanatic who injects her bullshit everywhere she can but doesn't respect those who try to avoid it or her pedantic mental illnesses.
It's like watching a retard repetitively shove his finger in light socket and cry about being shocked.Quote
Your children have fetal alcohol syndrome or something far worse?
Is Jimmy Swagger holding you at gun point and forcing you to discuss God on the internet?Quote
Who is Jimmy Swagger, pole queen?
I know you like to toss around your pseudo intellect but your conduct really drowns it out.Quote
You know an ant's bumhole worth of sweet fuck all, bible nutter. Your conduct over the last few months has shown that you not only enjoy believing in a farce, you've actively sought to infuse it whenever and wherever you could while pointing fingers at anyone except yourself. This psychotic need to exalt your spaghetti sky monster above gay pride marches and other social phenomenons demonstrates a complete disregard for the rights and beliefs of all the sane people around you who think you're cankle and ham wrist sporting middle aged drug addict, soft core prostitute, questionable mum, and overall horses ass (at least on your born again spiritual junkie front).
You've used your belief system as a divisive forum tool. That's right. You've brandished Christianity as a word based weapon.
Don't cry foul if you get backhanded for it.
I'd rather be locked in a small room with Fran Drescher humming GNR's Patience through her nose then listen to people debating whose spaghetti overlord in the clouds is the one and only cosmic noodle.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Are you a fucking mental case or just plain stupid? Who the fuck cares if someone believes in dieties, saints, sacred underwear, the Easter Bunny or the tooth fairy? Strange as they may seem, they are not commanded to kill us the way that death cult called Islam does.
No death threats this time, just finger pointing at ill perceived "death cults"?
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 02:01:49 PM
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 02:01:49 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
^ Drunken faced wingnut.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You still fucking here Mr? I thought you'd be over at evs' forum talking about us with Ricky boy.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
Post by: Frood on September 17, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on September 19, 2015, 04:34:51 AM
Post by: keeper on September 19, 2015, 04:34:51 AM
^ Bottom dwelling rice eating simian of short stature, emaciated muscles, and basic mental synapses.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Shen is sweet as sugar, give her a chance
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 04:39:51 AM
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 04:39:51 AM
I actually quite like Shen. She's a total loon but she's funny and honest.
Title: Re: God
Post by: keeper on September 19, 2015, 04:42:42 AM
Post by: keeper on September 19, 2015, 04:42:42 AM
ac_biggrin
I actually quite like Shen. She's a total loon but she's funny and honest.
I luv her like a sister.
So be nice to her
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 05:24:05 AM
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 05:24:05 AM
ac_biggrin
I actually quite like Shen. She's a total loon but she's funny and honest.
I luv her like a sister.:t4522:
So be nice to heracc_devil
I can't guarantee nice but somewhat subdued admiration is still in order.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
^ Bottom dwelling rice eating simian of short stature, emaciated muscles, and basic mental synapses.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Shen Li is tall and has a curvy figure..
I'm the short East Asian lady with emaciated muscles.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 07:44:10 PM
Post by: Frood on September 19, 2015, 07:44:10 PM
^ Bottom dwelling rice eating simian of short stature, emaciated muscles, and basic mental synapses.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Shen Li is tall and has a curvy figure..
I'm the short East Asian lady with emaciated muscles.
ac_blush
Thank you for letting me know. I'll have to start referring to Shen as a waterlogged Sasquatch fortune cookie on stilts and you as a petite woman of delicate features.
Title: Re: God
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2015, 07:14:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2015, 07:14:21 AM
^ Bottom dwelling rice eating simian of short stature, emaciated muscles, and basic mental synapses.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Shen Li is tall and has a curvy figure..
I'm the short East Asian lady with emaciated muscles.
ac_blush
ac_biggrin
Thank you for letting me know. I'll have to start referring to Shen asa waterlogged Sasquatch fortune cookieon stilts and you as a petite woman of delicate features.
A waterlogged Sasquatch fortune cookie?