Title: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 01:42:16 PM
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 01:42:16 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 02:15:56 PM
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 02:15:56 PM
What assholes.Quote from: "RW"
You can always send him your love, eh 'Real?
Lots of others did!
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: cc on July 29, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Post by: cc on July 29, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
One stupid Dem congress woman has put forward a bill to have the feds investigate
spare me
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 04:02:50 PM
Post by: J0E on July 29, 2015, 04:02:50 PM
OK, it's stupid. But when we see the atrocities being committed every minute now around the world, it is kinda comical seeing every "Joe" and Jane dance to this "today's tune"Quote from: "cc la femme"
One stupid Dem congress woman has put forward a bill to have the feds investigate
spare me
Well cc, its a serious charge if a person illegally kills a species such as a lion from one of Africa's parks. If I'm not mistaken, some countries execute poachers on site. They're treated or looked on as murderers. At very least, they can face prison time.
Anyways, that dentist went into hiding and now the zimbabwe police are lookin' for him.
He may have caused an incident since it may get International wildlife and other organizations involved.
No, its not anythin' to be taken lightly, cc.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 04:26:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 04:26:42 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
Post by: RW on July 29, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
OK, it's stupid. But when we see the atrocities being committed every minute now around the world, it is kinda comical seeing every "Joe" and Jane dance to this "today's tune"Quote from: "cc la femme"
One stupid Dem congress woman has put forward a bill to have the feds investigate
spare me
I agree. Let's not add insult to injury.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 07:52:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 07:52:38 PM
No surprise as to his nationality.
I hope the torment continues and drives him out of business.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
I think this hunter's methods are dubious. In one news segment on TV, the reporter said this dentist/hunter shot a black bear, killed it, and then dragged its body to another location to make it look legit. Now that I just can't respect, if that's true. Hunt if you're going to hunt, but hunt legally. I don't care what these animal lovers have to say. I'm not going to poo poo hunting. If I was invited to hunt ducks, for example, I would go.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:50:15 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 08:50:15 PM
Does killing animals excite you? Entertain you? Make you feel big and strong?
You don't care about a LION? What animal do you care about?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 09:04:05 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 09:04:05 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:09:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 09:09:17 PM
Hunting has been around for centuries. Fishermen catch fish for food. Some hunters eat their prey, some hunt for recreation. You don't have to like it. It does not mean I like to kill animals. I am not entertained by it nor does it make me feel big and strong. I am fascinated by the sport. I love animals but I also don't mind hunting.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"I think it's too bad this lion was killed but let's move on. There are more important things to focus on.I've never gone hunting though which explains my fascination for it. Perhaps after the first experience I might change my mind about it but I'm not saying that to appease anyone. If you don't like hunting, fine. Some of us are okay with it.
This is how I feel too Azhya.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
But there's nothing wrong with being fed up and saying enough is enough once in a while. The lion was baited away from a national park(also legal!). He injured the lion with a bow and arrow, tracked it for two days and shot it. The lion was skinned and beheaded, and the guides removed its research radio collar without telling anyone.
We've done much worse to animals, but that's kind of sick.
The good doctor couldn't just take a picture and appreciate the majesty? Here's a trophy for 'dick of the year'.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
Hunting has been around for centuries. Fishermen catch fish for food. Some hunters eat their prey, some hunt for recreation. You don't have to like it. It does not mean I like to kill animals. I am not entertained by it nor does it make me feel big and strong. I am fascinated by the sport. I love animals but I also don't mind hunting. I think it's too bad this lion was killed but let's move on. There are more important things to focus on. I've never gone hunting though which explains my fascination for it. Perhaps after the first experience I might change my mind about it but I'm not saying that to appease anyone. If you don't like hunting, fine. Some of us are okay with it.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Hunting has been around for centuries, and will be with us always.
For FOOD and sustenance!! Not for entertainment, as in the case of slaughtering this beautiful lion. Or ducks, or rabbits, for that matter.
What sort of mentality ENJOYS killing animals.
It is not a "sport" by any measure. It is a carnal, barbaric act that humanity should have evolved from centuries ago.
At least this jerk will pay a huge price, and draw more attention to this evil activity.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 09:35:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 09:35:20 PM
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
And that makes it right?
Seriously?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
And that makes it right?
Seriously?
It's good context. Why are we outraged about just one lion but couldn't care less about the hundreds of others?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: the shark hunter on July 29, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
Post by: the shark hunter on July 29, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
There are good arguments for and against the outrage.Quote from: "Romero"
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
But there's nothing wrong with being fed up and saying enough is enough once in a while. The lion was baited away from a national park(also legal!). He injured the lion with a bow and arrow, tracked it for two days and shot it. The lion was skinned and beheaded, and the guides removed its research radio collar without telling anyone.
We've done much worse to animals, but that's kind of sick.
The good doctor couldn't just take a picture and appreciate the majesty? Here's a trophy for 'dick of the year'.
... good post, Romero. i tend to agree with your sentiments. as long as no laws were violated then there's really no issue here. but then it's not about law with the lefty news media is it? it's about reactions based on how they feel emotionally ...
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
Post by: Romero on July 29, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
I do understand why people are outraged, even though we never really care about the hundreds of other lions killed. Since this one has come to our attention, we've learned about the dirty details. This "hunt" wasn't a hunt at all.
Maybe we'll do something about the plight of lions, or maybe we'll just forget and move on to the next sensation.
I just read that the dentist actually had a professional hunter finish the kill for him. He is a dick! That's not hunting! He should have just taken a picture!
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 10:05:29 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 10:05:29 PM
Hunting has been around for centuries, and will be with us always.
For FOOD and sustenance!! Not for entertainment, as in the case of slaughtering this beautiful lion. Or ducks, or rabbits, for that matter.
What sort of mentality ENJOYS killing animals.
It is not a "sport" by any measure. It is a carnal, barbaric act that humanity should have evolved from centuries ago.
At least this jerk will pay a huge price, and draw more attention to this evil activity.
It is a sport. Anyone can tell me otherwise until they are blue in the face but I will maintain that it is a sport. There are hunting competitions worldwide. Hunting is a way of life in many parts of the world. If you don't like it, that's just too bad. Others do it whether you like it or not and it does not make you right on this matter.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 29, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
I do understand why people are outraged, even though we never really care about the hundreds of other lions killed.
Bullshit.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Wulf on July 29, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
Post by: Wulf on July 29, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
I marvel at the mentality of such a miserable human being that he takes delight, indeed, is prepared to pay a large sum of money, to slaughter one of the world's most magnificent animals.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No surprise as to his nationality.
I hope the torment continues and drives him out of business.
Don't start that nationality shit, old man. You Aussies slaughter more of you native animals than any other people on the planet. And for what? Dog food, gloves, fun?
We all know you stance on hunting of any kind. People like you think you are somehow morally superior because you get your half rancid chicken parts wrapped in plastic by some unwashed minimum wage store clerk in a filthy apron. Never mind the fact that the commercially raised animal that you shovel down your gullet lived an existence of pain and fear before it was slaughtered for the pleasure of your dinner table.
If you want to be outraged by the act that's fine, do it. The act deserves your outrage. But don't go casting aspersions on an entire country just because you are a twitchy old twat.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 10:43:53 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 29, 2015, 10:43:53 PM
I do not think I am morally superior.
In this respect, I AM morally superior. Are you assuming, as you so often do, that I do not deplore hunting in my own country? Let me clarify...regardless of the location anywhere on the planet, hunting animals for entertainment is abhorrent, barbaric and inhuman. Yes, yes, I know that I've captured the personality of your nation pretty well...but I take your point that others act like gun freaks and grow balls when aiming down the sights at defenceless animals...or in your nation's case...humans.
You asinine comparison between hunting for entertainment, and farming for food is as goofy as your country's gun laws, which practically give guns to every nut job (and there are a LOT of nut jobs) on request.
The killer of that lion is an American. Americans love guns. Americans love to kill pretty much any form of life.
Deal with it.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: cc on July 29, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
Post by: cc on July 29, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: kiebers on July 29, 2015, 11:53:58 PM
Post by: kiebers on July 29, 2015, 11:53:58 PM
Lame excuse event for anti American rant #G.245Quote from: "cc la femme"
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 11:55:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2015, 11:55:21 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:24:22 AM
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:24:22 AM
The authorities should just put an end to lion hunting by any means altogether.
And for that matter, all other exotic animals on the endangered species list, such as tigers, elephants.
The lion population in Africa was about 200,000 a century ago. Now its estimated to be less than a sixth ofthat, just 30,000. So in reality, we have to save as many healthy and able bodied lions as we possibly can or one day there won't be any left. Apparently, the lion is in danger of becoming extinct in West africa.
So for each Cecil the planet loses, it represents a significant % of the remaining lion population in the world.
Likewise, the Silverback Gorilla has been reduced to such small numbers, that a machine gun could literally mow the whole population down with a few rounds.
Whatever people think about the ethics of hunting, they oughta look at the numbers and wake up.
At the rate all these exotic animals are disappearing in the Wild, their days could be numbered.
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
And that makes it right?
Seriously?
It's good context. Why are we outraged about just one lion but couldn't care less about the hundreds of others?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:32:24 AM
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:32:24 AM
I don't really care about a lion. Yes, they're beautiful and it's too bad. I love those stories about the bear, tiger, and lion friends. Big cats are pretty to look at.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I think this hunter's methods are dubious. In one news segment on TV, the reporter said this dentist/hunter shot a black bear, killed it, and then dragged its body to another location to make it look legit. Now that I just can't respect, if that's true. Hunt if you're going to hunt, but hunt legally. I don't care what these animal lovers have to say. I'm not going to poo poo hunting. If I was invited to hunt ducks, for example, I would go.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: cc on July 30, 2015, 12:33:17 AM
Post by: cc on July 30, 2015, 12:33:17 AM
Personally I don't purchase or consume any commercial food....let alone tortured animals. So I'm in the good being repulsed by this senseless slaughter. I'm also repulsed by the selling of baby parts going on as well.Quote from: "Dove"
Welcome to a large element of 2015. A lion 10,000 miles away matters. Local baby parts don't
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:05:49 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 30, 2015, 03:05:49 AM
Personally I don't purchase or consume any commercial food....let alone tortured animals. So I'm in the good being repulsed by this senseless slaughter. I'm also repulsed by the selling of baby parts going on as well.Quote from: "Dove"
Welcome to a large element of 2015. A lion 10,000 miles away matters. Local baby parts don't
Since when?
Just because the topic is about the slaughter of a lion, it does not follow that contributors are apathetic to other injustices.
If there is an issue with the sale of baby parts, start a thread. Let's see it.
I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Romero on July 30, 2015, 03:57:00 AM
Post by: Romero on July 30, 2015, 03:57:00 AM
I do understand why people are outraged, even though we never really care about the hundreds of other lions killed.
Bullshit.http://www.worldanimalprotection.org.au
Actually Romero, lots of people care about the hundreds of lions slaughtered per year.Quote from: "Frank"
I was just generalizing. I know lots of people really care and are trying to change things. Many anti-poachers have risked their lives and been killed.
I'm talking about how this one death has become a sensation yet most people never become nearly as outraged over the fact that it happens all the time. Though I do understand why. Hearing about the dirty details makes it more personable. I feel the same way. I was just entertaining a couple of different arguments.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on July 30, 2015, 06:02:36 AM
Post by: Frood on July 30, 2015, 06:02:36 AM
He's not a hunter. He's a moron.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 30, 2015, 07:44:53 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 30, 2015, 07:44:53 AM
I would never try to turn a person to like hunting if they don't. Likewise, I don't appreciate being told I should not support it. I'll support anything I want to support. This is again one of those you stay in your lane and I'll stay in my lane matters. Since I've never hunted ever, I have no experience to speak of. Since there are no hunters here to answer Spectre's inquiry as to why one likes to hunt animals, here's a best answer from yahoo...
"Best Answer: For me there are many reasons. First off let me describe what I hunt and have hunted in the past. I primarily hunt pheasants and grouse. Both are small game birds. When I was younger I used to hunt deer but decided that I did not enjoy it as much as bird hunting. If I did decide to hunt deer again it would be mainly for the meat. I like venison. It is lower in fat and higher in protein than beef. I have a hunting dog that I hunt with and it is hard to explain the interaction between my dog and I but that is probably what I enjoy most. My dog loves to hunt and flush birds and retrieve them after I shoot one. Also the excitement of a pheasant flushing is hard to describe unless you experience it for yourself. Another reason is being out in the field and enjoying a nice day, getting exercise, and spending time with a friend/s. After the hunt talking about the ones we bagged and the ones that got away.
To answer your other questions:
desire to be a predator (power) - This is not the driver for me. For me it is watching the dog work and the skill involved it pulling your gun up in a split second and trying to get a shot off before the bird is out of range.
Do you feel bad for killing an animal - no, but I normally do not hunt anything I won't eat unless I am hunting with someone that I know will use it. I have a problem with anyone that wastes the meat and just kills for sport.
Population control is a really weak argument and this is coming from someone that hunts. There would be no need for population control if predator control did not preceed it. I can tell you though if I had to choose between being taken down and eaten alive by a pack of wolves or taking a bullet I would prefer the bullet. "
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Post by: J0E on July 30, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
And a need to feel in control and the ability to play God.
Also they are somewhat cowardly as well.
I read stories about how your former Vice President Dick Cheney hunted down hundreds if not thousands of helpless birds yet was afraid to sign up for military service during the Vietnam War.
In fact, he received a deferment while many other men served and died in his place.
I think they call suchmen 'chickenhawks'.
...there's no need to hunt wild animals down anymore.
For food all we need to do is go to the supermarket.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090115100428AAYSi3H
I would never try to turn a person to like hunting if they don't. Likewise, I don't appreciate being told I should not support it. I'll support anything I want to support. This is again one of those you stay in your lane and I'll stay in my lane matters. Since I've never hunted ever, I have no experience to speak of. Since there are no hunters here to answer Spectre's inquiry as to why one likes to hunt animals, here's a best answer from yahoo...
"Best Answer: For me there are many reasons. First off let me describe what I hunt and have hunted in the past. I primarily hunt pheasants and grouse. Both are small game birds. When I was younger I used to hunt deer but decided that I did not enjoy it as much as bird hunting. If I did decide to hunt deer again it would be mainly for the meat. I like venison. It is lower in fat and higher in protein than beef. I have a hunting dog that I hunt with and it is hard to explain the interaction between my dog and I but that is probably what I enjoy most. My dog loves to hunt and flush birds and retrieve them after I shoot one. Also the excitement of a pheasant flushing is hard to describe unless you experience it for yourself. Another reason is being out in the field and enjoying a nice day, getting exercise, and spending time with a friend/s. After the hunt talking about the ones we bagged and the ones that got away.
To answer your other questions:
desire to be a predator (power) - This is not the driver for me. For me it is watching the dog work and the skill involved it pulling your gun up in a split second and trying to get a shot off before the bird is out of range.
Do you feel bad for killing an animal - no, but I normally do not hunt anything I won't eat unless I am hunting with someone that I know will use it. I have a problem with anyone that wastes the meat and just kills for sport.
Population control is a really weak argument and this is coming from someone that hunts. There would be no need for population control if predator control did not preceed it. I can tell you though if I had to choose between being taken down and eaten alive by a pack of wolves or taking a bullet I would prefer the bullet. "
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on July 30, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Post by: RW on July 30, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
We know so many people that hunt that we find it hard to judge rural people that enjoy all the outdoors has to offer and that includes hunting and fishing.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
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I would think that guy wishes he had went to Vegas instead. You know, everything that happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Not like Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: cc on July 31, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
Post by: cc on July 31, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
What Cecil actually would say if he was in the presence of this psychic? "Umm, lunch!"...
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: asal on July 31, 2015, 01:52:05 PM
Post by: asal on July 31, 2015, 01:52:05 PM
Actually Romero, lots of people care about the hundreds of lions slaughtered per year.Quote from: "Frank"
The authorities should just put an end to lion hunting by any means altogether.
And for that matter, all other exotic animals on the endangered species list, such as tigers, elephants.
The lion population in Africa was about 200,000 a century ago. Now its estimated to be less than a sixth ofthat, just 30,000. So in reality, we have to save as many healthy and able bodied lions as we possibly can or one day there won't be any left. Apparently, the lion is in danger of becoming extinct in West africa.
So for each Cecil the planet loses, it represents a significant % of the remaining lion population in the world.Likewise, the Silverback Gorilla has been reduced to such small numbers, that a machine gun could literally mow the whole population down with a few rounds.
Whatever people think about the ethics of hunting, they oughta look at the numbers and wake up.
At the rate all these exotic animals are disappearing in the Wild, their days could be numbered.
One beloved lion? Americans alone kill hundreds of lions every year. Legally!
And that makes it right?
Seriously?
It's good context. Why are we outraged about just one lion but couldn't care less about the hundreds of others?
The mountain gorilla is a very sad truth Frank. I didn't read much closely, but that stood out. A few (one (1) or two (2)) upper class idiots in Europe were sporting mountain gorilla fur as a coat a few years ago.
There are about 500 mountain gorillas. They are playful, sweet animals. They can't outrun a human. People eat them.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
Below is example of how stupid this thing is in comparison to real issues everywhereQuote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/%20...%2078x650.png%22%3Ehttp://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
What Cecil actually would say if he was in the presence of this psychic? "Umm, lunch!"...
Actually, its not.
This sordid tragedy reflects an element of the human psyche that we must eradicate; that killing is OK. Lion, fur seals, or whale, killing animals unnecessarily, or worse, for entertainment, is wrong and reprehensible.
Human nature is capable of change. And it won't change unless the majority of humans make it clear that conduct such as this retard's is not acceptable.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
Below is example of how stupid this thing is in comparison to real issues everywhereQuote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/%20...%2078x650.png%22%3Ehttp://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
What Cecil actually would say if he was in the presence of this psychic? "Umm, lunch!"...
Actually, its not.
This sordid tragedy reflects an element of the human psyche that we must eradicate; that killing is OK. Lion, fur seals, or whale, killing animals unnecessarily, or worse, for entertainment, is wrong and reprehensible.
Human nature is capable of change. And it won't change unless the majority of humans make it clear that conduct such as this retard's is not acceptable.
You say that now, but wait till you try a moose roast in a slow cooker.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:30:12 PM
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:30:12 PM
Below is example of how stupid this thing is in comparison to real issues everywhereQuote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/%20...%2078x650.png%22%3Ehttp://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
What Cecil actually would say if he was in the presence of this psychic? "Umm, lunch!"...
Actually, its not.
This sordid tragedy reflects an element of the human psyche that we must eradicate; that killing is OK. Lion, fur seals, or whale, killing animals unnecessarily, or worse, for entertainment, is wrong and reprehensible.
Human nature is capable of change. And it won't change unless the majority of humans make it clear that conduct such as this retard's is not acceptable.
Well, Spec, we don't always agree on things, but we do here.
Just like one man can change the world, one incident can cause waves.
For everyone who is bitching about the 100's of other lions being killed, well maybe this will be the one event that forces people to stand up and make a difference.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
Below is example of how stupid this thing is in comparison to real issues everywhereQuote from: "cc la femme"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/%20...%2078x650.png%22%3Ehttp://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-31-at-7.59.17-AM-478x650.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
What Cecil actually would say if he was in the presence of this psychic? "Umm, lunch!"...
Actually, its not.
This sordid tragedy reflects an element of the human psyche that we must eradicate; that killing is OK. Lion, fur seals, or whale, killing animals unnecessarily, or worse, for entertainment, is wrong and reprehensible.
Human nature is capable of change. And it won't change unless the majority of humans make it clear that conduct such as this retard's is not acceptable.
Well, Spec, we don't always agree on things, but we do here.
Just like one man can change the world, one incident can cause waves.
For everyone who is bitching about the 100's of other lions being killed, well maybe this will be the one event that forces people to stand up and make a difference.
Alright, but this guy doesn't want anyone to stock their freezer with real free range meat.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:40:32 PM
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:40:32 PM
Alright, but this guy doesn't want anyone to stock their freezer with real free range meat.
And where does he say that? The only argument I've seen from him in this thread is that hunting for sport is wrong.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
Alright, but this guy doesn't want anyone to stock their freezer with real free range meat.
And where does he say that? The only argument I've seen from him in this thread is that hunting for sport is wrong.
That's right, he did say For FOOD and sustenance!! But then adds Not for entertainment.
See, I used to hunt and it was not wasted, but I also enjoyed bagging a trophy buck.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 08:54:47 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 08:54:47 PM
That's right, he did say For FOOD and sustenance!! But then adds Not for entertainment.Quote from: "Herman"
See, I used to hunt and it was not wasted, but I also enjoyed bagging a trophy buck.
Don't feel bad just because some people don't like it. I don't listen. I do what I want.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:57:06 PM
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 08:57:06 PM
Alright, but this guy doesn't want anyone to stock their freezer with real free range meat.
And where does he say that? The only argument I've seen from him in this thread is that hunting for sport is wrong.
That's right, he did say For FOOD and sustenance!! But then adds Not for entertainment.
See, I used to hunt and it was not wasted, but I also enjoyed bagging a trophy buck.
I think there's a fine line there that isn't black and white. You may enjoy hunting, but at least you're doing the reasonable thing by eating what you kill.
Personally I find hunting barbaric. But I'm not a hypocrite. If you're going to eat what you kill, then I'm not going to argue against it. At least the animal's death isn't in vain.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 09:13:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 09:13:06 PM
Alright, but this guy doesn't want anyone to stock their freezer with real free range meat.
And where does he say that? The only argument I've seen from him in this thread is that hunting for sport is wrong.
That's right, he did say For FOOD and sustenance!! But then adds Not for entertainment.
See, I used to hunt and it was not wasted, but I also enjoyed bagging a trophy buck.
I think there's a fine line there that isn't black and white. You may enjoy hunting, but at least you're doing the reasonable thing by eating what you kill.
Personally I find hunting barbaric. But I'm not a hypocrite. If you're going to eat what you kill, then I'm not going to argue against it. At least the animal's death isn't in vain.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 09:17:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 09:17:45 PM
You stay in your lane and I will stay in mine.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
When you shoot animals for entertainment, or for no real purpose other than to satisfy some primal lust that should have been eradicated centuries ago, you move into MY lane.
See, those animals are mine. And yours. And everyone else's on this planet.
You keep killing them, they will disappear, or you will deny me my pleasure in seeing these animals in their own habitat.
Those animals belong to the planet, not to humanity. Sure, some must be killed in order to sustain us, and I have no beef (pun intended) with that. Our survival is imperative.
But when meat is freely available through the market system, I fail to see any reason to go into the wild with lethal firearms and slaughter them simply to make you feel more...human? That suggests that you may also feel compelled to engage in other activities undertaken by primitive humans, like rape, slavery, war, cannibalism and male dominated domestic violence. The fact the we impose our barbarity on other life forms does not excuse it.
For those who enjoy shooting and killing so much, I propose an alternative. Fence off an area of, say, 100 acres. Drop all wannabe hunters into the area with their firearms, and the last man or woman standing wins. Now, THAT would be something to be proud of.
You in, Azhya?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 09:32:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 09:32:21 PM
But that's OK...turn and run. Like a lot of hunters, when their prey starts shooting back, they retreat poste haste.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
Post by: ghost on July 31, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
But when meat is freely available through the market system, I fail to see any reason to go into the wild
There are still some places in Canada where meat isn't freely available in the market system. And even more so in the rest of the world.
And considering how barbaric the meat processing business is, I kinda agree with those who prefer wild game.
But I also like to believe that if people had to kill what they wanted to eat, we'd have a shitload more vegetarians on this planet.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
But when meat is freely available through the market system, I fail to see any reason to go into the wild
There are still some places in Canada where meat isn't freely available in the market system. And even more so in the rest of the world.
And considering how barbaric the meat processing business is, I kinda agree with those who prefer wild game.
But I also like to believe that if people had to kill what they wanted to eat, we'd have a shitload more vegetarians on this planet.
I agree with that statement ghost..
We have friends who on occasion have given us elk or pheasants or ruffed grouse..
I know the animals lived a better life than factory farmed meat sold at Safeway or Costco.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
But when meat is freely available through the market system, I fail to see any reason to go into the wild
There are still some places in Canada where meat isn't freely available in the market system. And even more so in the rest of the world.
And considering how barbaric the meat processing business is, I kinda agree with those who prefer wild game.
But I also like to believe that if people had to kill what they wanted to eat, we'd have a shitload more vegetarians on this planet.
I have no issue with hunting for sustenance. I don't like it, but that's an opinion, and I take the point that the way we farm animals has much to be answered for.
However, hunting using "sustenance" as an excuse, when it is not necessary, is a different ball game.
My ire is directed at the psychopaths, morons, social inadequates and mentally dysfunctional reprobates that kill for "sport", entertainment or pleasure, such as that vile moron who slaughtered a lion for kicks and jollies. That is in a whole other realm. It reflects a mentality that is primitive, recklessly indifferent, and degenerate. That asshole needs to be hounded out of business, and out of civil society. I note that the US Government is making a prompt change to its laws so that villainous cretins like this are prosecuted for their despicable acts.
One of those rare occasions upon which I commend the US for its prompt and correct response.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 10:34:39 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 10:34:39 PM
If you are a grown woman, why hunt?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
But that's OK...turn and run. Like a lot of hunters, when their prey starts shooting back, they retreat poste haste.
Get off my back on this already, Spec, as you aren't going to change my mind at all. What do you care if I go with my friends to hunt? That dentist/hunter was wrong to kill a well-loved lion by luring it out. I don't approve of poachers either. I am for legal hunting. I haven't seen my hunting friends for a while. Who knows when they'll invite me. I'm only going to go if I'm invited. I'm not going to go out hunting on my own. I am not dying to go hunting tomorrow but what I'm saying is that I am not opposed to legal hunting. Nuff said.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 11:16:09 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 31, 2015, 11:16:09 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 31, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 08:56:58 AM
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 08:56:58 AM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 01:40:44 PM
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 01:40:44 PM
Just do the numbers. From a mathematical perspective, supply and demand, it is no longer viable.
Lions aren't exactly cuddly creatures. They take down thousands of weaker ones every year.
They kill livestock and sometimes people.
However, their numbers are going down and if organizations and countries don't intervene, this species will eventually disappear.
That's why trophy hunting of lions and every other kind of endangered species should be banned, just to preserve them.
If there were millions of lions and fewer people killing them, then hunting them for sport wouldn't be an issue, like it is - for example - moose.
But when their existence is in peril, then obviously we have to step up to the plate and say - enough is enough. no more.
There are just aren't enough lions left for the growing number of hunters who want to kill them.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:00:53 PM
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:00:53 PM
I look at the slaughter of lions less of a humanitarian issue, than a cold, scientific view of it.Quote from: "Frank"
Just do the numbers. From a mathematical perspective, supply and demand, it is no longer viable.
Lions aren't exactly cuddly creatures. They take down thousands of weaker ones every year.
They kill livestock and sometimes people.
However, their numbers are going down and if organizations and countries don't intervene, this species will eventually disappear.
That's why trophy hunting of lions and every other kind of endangered species should be banned, just to preserve them.
If there were millions of lions and fewer people killing them, then hunting them for sport wouldn't be an issue, like it is - for example - moose.
But when their existence is in peril, then obviously we have to step up to the plate and say - enough is enough. no more.
There are just aren't enough lions left for the growing number of hunters who want to kill them.
I put to motion a "ban" on you Frank. Anyone who suggests banning, by default, must be banned because they initially invoked the ban hammer. It's in the State worshiping bylaws. Have a look yourself.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
I look at the slaughter of lions less of a humanitarian issue, than a cold, scientific view of it.Quote from: "Frank"
Just do the numbers. From a mathematical perspective, supply and demand, it is no longer viable.
Lions aren't exactly cuddly creatures. They take down thousands of weaker ones every year.
They kill livestock and sometimes people.
However, their numbers are going down and if organizations and countries don't intervene, this species will eventually disappear.
That's why trophy hunting of lions and every other kind of endangered species should be banned, just to preserve them.
If there were millions of lions and fewer people killing them, then hunting them for sport wouldn't be an issue, like it is - for example - moose.
But when their existence is in peril, then obviously we have to step up to the plate and say - enough is enough. no more.
There are just aren't enough lions left for the growing number of hunters who want to kill them.
I put to motion a "ban" on you Frank. Anyone who suggests banning, by default, must be banned because they initially invoked the ban hammer. It's in the State worshiping bylaws. Have a look yourself.
You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Post by: J0E on August 01, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Not at all. When I see someone propose banning something, I envision wrapping my hands around their necks and banning their breathing function.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
...you want to ban someone because it offends your sensibilties even though it doesn't contravene the forum guidelines?
I call that stifling of free speech.
Your argument/motion needs a more solid foundation than that in order to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
Post by: Frood on August 01, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
Not at all. When I see someone propose banning something, I envision wrapping my hands around their necks and banning their breathing function.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
...you want to ban someone because it offends your sensibilties even though it doesn't contravene the forum guidelines?
I call that stifling of free speech.
Your argument/motion needs a more solid foundation than that in order to be taken seriously.
I wasn't talking about the forum.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: cc on August 01, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
Post by: cc on August 01, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
Sorry Joe. Could not resist
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 05:06:34 PM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 05:06:34 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 01, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
That does bother me about the hunting debate. It's so wrong to kill animals for meat if you have to hunt for them but it's okay to slaughter defenceless animals by the gazillion in the name of mass food production. We are so unhealthy as a society because of such easy access to beef and the like but if you get off your lazy ass and kill a deer to eat, Spectre will call you a scourge on humanity.Quote from: "RW"
Apparently, you and your Australian klingon have lost the ability to read.
I said, quite clearly, that I have no issue with sustenance based hunting, as long as that is its primary purpose.
That excludes "I'm going to go hunting a kill a moose because it makes my dick hard, but then I'll put it in the freezer to assuage any feelings of guilt".
That also excludes killing animals that are not edible. This category would include lions, giraffes, rhinoceros', elephants and goldfish. It does not exclude humans.
In most modern nations, sustenance meat is freely available. I note the diabolical conditions that it is often raised in, but that is a separate issue and does not justify open slaughter on wild animals. If you want a steak, got to the butcher.
If you prefer to go into the wilderness and kill a defenceless animal for your "meat", it still makes a substantial comment on your psychology. You enjoy killing. Is that the sign of a civilised and progressive society?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Post by: RW on August 01, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Those animals out in the bush have not had their defences bred out of them like cows, or were you not aware of that?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 12:39:26 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 12:39:26 AM
The last paragraph proved my point.Quote from: "RW"
Those animals out in the bush have not had their defences bred out of them like cows, or were you not aware of that?
Is there a point you're making?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
The last paragraph proved my point.Quote from: "RW"
Those animals out in the bush have not had their defences bred out of them like cows, or were you not aware of that?
Some humans have been so domesticated that they can't fathom the concept of acquiring their own meat and therefore make up excuses to undermine those who still have some or all of their basic instincts intact.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:36:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:36:53 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:39:46 PM
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:39:46 PM
An animal, albeit a beautiful one was wasted. Meanwhile in Syria, homos are being thrown off of buildings to their death and young kids are being trained to behead people while they are handcuffed. Get the fuck over it people. It's not a big deal.Quote from: "Shen Li"
The media doesn't want to let it go. Last night I heard on the radio that they've identified another medical professional who killed a lion last year also.
I wonder how much traction they'll get out of Liongate.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:47:21 PM
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:47:21 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:49:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 05:49:18 PM
No way. You have to be lion to me?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
Post by: Frood on August 02, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 07:19:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 07:19:01 PM
Some humans have been so domesticated that they can't fathom the concept of acquiring their own meat and therefore make up excuses to undermine those who still have some or all of their basic instincts intact.
How about rape? That's a basic instinct.
Paedophilia?
War?
Violence?
My basic instinct tells me you're an idiot.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Miss Stiletto on August 02, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
Post by: Miss Stiletto on August 02, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on August 02, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
Post by: RW on August 02, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:34:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:34:38 PM
Hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That gross dentist will probably be out of business when he returns to his clinic.Quote from: "Miss Stiletto"
Thank you very much. Don't hold back, tell us what you really think of people who prefer to harvest their own meat
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: RW on August 02, 2015, 07:37:26 PM
Post by: RW on August 02, 2015, 07:37:26 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:39:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:39:31 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 07:45:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 07:45:28 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:50:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2015, 07:50:56 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Are you saying it's healthier for us and better for animals to eat force fed animals who live a short life like sardines in a can rather than instantly kill a hormone free moose? Balderdash my friend, balderdash.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 02, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Are you saying it's healthier for us and better for animals to eat force fed animals who live a short life like sardines in a can rather than instantly kill a hormone free moose? Balderdash my friend, balderdash.
If I want you to speak on my behalf, I'll let you know.
No, that is NOT what I am saying. Firstly, I repeat, sustenance hunting is acceptable where it is necessary and essential to survive.
Secondly, I repeat, 2 wrongs don't make a right, and arguing that its more humane to kill an animal in the wild, and thus hunting is justifiable is illogical.
Fixing the farming is the solution. Not killing wild animals. On that premise, in a year, there won't BE any wild animals.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 12:52:11 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 12:52:11 AM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 10:57:58 AM
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 10:57:58 AM
Some humans have been so domesticated that they can't fathom the concept of acquiring their own meat and therefore make up excuses to undermine those who still have some or all of their basic instincts intact.
How about rape? That's a basic instinct.
Paedophilia?
War?
Violence?
My basic instinct tells me you're an idiot.
Rape, war, the molestation of non sexually mature youth, and violence are basic instincts to you?
The desire and need to reproduce is an instinct, rape or molestation of youth are not instinctual.
Fight or flee is a basic human instinct, war or violence are meaningless in that context. They're general terms whereas fight or flee is an actual survival mechanism built into us.
I think your basic instinct is to lash out when challenged. It should just be the fight or flee instinct and nothing else, except you don't seem to flee and you relish the use of composition or words on a screen for acting out in manners not too different from war for war's sake or violence for violence's sake. That type of construct mirrors your belief that eating meat is ethical if someone else kills it in a certain manner or in certain contexts which would be fine if your opinion only applied to your behavior and you stopped short of imposing it as a wider truth.
You could simply agree to disagree with others on hunting just as you could make your case on any other forum topic and avoid your steady use of pejoratives but how would you get your jollies if there was no text wars, violence, or ideology rape. As such, you share some similarities with this American dentist discussed.
He however has a slightly stronger stomach in reality.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 08:56:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 08:56:27 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Are you saying it's healthier for us and better for animals to eat force fed animals who live a short life like sardines in a can rather than instantly kill a hormone free moose? Balderdash my friend, balderdash.
If I want you to speak on my behalf, I'll let you know.
No, that is NOT what I am saying. Firstly, I repeat, sustenance hunting is acceptable where it is necessary and essential to survive.
Secondly, I repeat, 2 wrongs don't make a right, and arguing that its more humane to kill an animal in the wild, and thus hunting is justifiable is illogical.
Fixing the farming is the solution. Not killing wild animals. On that premise, in a year, there won't BE any wild animals.
Harvesting healthy animals in the wild is wrong, but Mcmeat isn't. And you call me illogical.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Wulf on August 03, 2015, 09:11:18 PM
Post by: Wulf on August 03, 2015, 09:11:18 PM
Another brave and fearless white hunter demonstrates his courage and prowess!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"(//%3C/s%3Ehttps://farm1.staticflickr.com/507/20253421941_503ac8155b_c.jpg%3Ce%3E)(//https) 11416330_1005194056158717_4053445321296976500_o(//https)
Relative of yours? After all the pic is linked to your flicker account.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Are you saying it's healthier for us and better for animals to eat force fed animals who live a short life like sardines in a can rather than instantly kill a hormone free moose? Balderdash my friend, balderdash.
If I want you to speak on my behalf, I'll let you know.
No, that is NOT what I am saying. Firstly, I repeat, sustenance hunting is acceptable where it is necessary and essential to survive.
Secondly, I repeat, 2 wrongs don't make a right, and arguing that its more humane to kill an animal in the wild, and thus hunting is justifiable is illogical.
Fixing the farming is the solution. Not killing wild animals. On that premise, in a year, there won't BE any wild animals.
Harvesting healthy animals in the wild is wrong, but Mcmeat isn't. And you call me illogical.:crazy:
Would you mind pointing out where I have condoned barbaric farming practices? You keep referring to burgers as a reference point, when as far as I know American fast food burgers contain no meat.
So, by your logic, we should all go out and hunt animals, rather than sustain farming practices that are in MOST cases fair and humane, but I accept there are exceptions in battery farms (which, I might add, are being phased out in Australia as cruel and unacceptable).
How many wild animals will be left in 12 months?
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
This case was not harvesting meat though.Quote from: "RW"
Miss Stiletto said hunting is disgusting and of low intellect. That's insulting to people who hunt for their meat.
No. I think its a pretty fair assessment insofar as we who live in a modern society goes.
I guess for undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Brazilian rainforest, its quite reasonable.
Perhaps those that wish to live off their own means should go live with them.
Are you saying it's healthier for us and better for animals to eat force fed animals who live a short life like sardines in a can rather than instantly kill a hormone free moose? Balderdash my friend, balderdash.
If I want you to speak on my behalf, I'll let you know.
No, that is NOT what I am saying. Firstly, I repeat, sustenance hunting is acceptable where it is necessary and essential to survive.
Secondly, I repeat, 2 wrongs don't make a right, and arguing that its more humane to kill an animal in the wild, and thus hunting is justifiable is illogical.
Fixing the farming is the solution. Not killing wild animals. On that premise, in a year, there won't BE any wild animals.
Harvesting healthy animals in the wild is wrong, but Mcmeat isn't. And you call me illogical.:crazy:
Would you mind pointing out where I have condoned barbaric farming practices? You keep referring to burgers as a reference point, when as far as I know American fast food burgers contain no meat.
So, by your logic, we should all go out and hunt animals, rather than sustain farming practices that are in MOST cases fair and humane, but I accept there are exceptions in battery farms (which, I might add, are being phased out in Australia as cruel and unacceptable).
How many wild animals will be left in 12 months?
You don't condemn domestic livestock processing the way you do people who hunt. You leave me little choice besides the conclusion you are less bothered by it than hunting.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
I have repeatedly said that I differentiate between this and sustenance hunting. You must have missed that bit.
I also do not automatically accept that country yokels who go forth and kill beasts in the wild for entertainment purposes (and please...don't try to jerk me off by saying they NEED to do it to survive, or that they do it to feed their families) and then store it in their freezer are any better. The fact that THEIR kill is edible does not mask their rather disturbing passion to kill. If, however, their's is a genuine need for survival, have at it. Good luck proving THAT case in a modern nation like Canada, however.
If you wish to discuss farming ethics, please...start a thread. I'm happy to demonstrate my disgust at many primary production techniques currently utilised by "farmers". I'm also happy to inform you that here in Australia, the Government is closely monitoring farming techniques that are constantly brought to its attention by animal rights movements, and has already outlawed a number of them, including the phasing out of practices that are regarded as cruel.
But, please...if you propose that yokels go out and kill as a protest against the farming practices undertaken BY THOSE VERY SAME YOKELS, you will merely highlight your own folly.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 10:24:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 03, 2015, 10:24:04 PM
Another brave and fearless white hunter demonstrates his courage and prowess!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"(//%3C/s%3Ehttps://farm1.staticflickr.com/507/20253421941_503ac8155b_c.jpg%3Ce%3E)(//https) 11416330_1005194056158717_4053445321296976500_o(//https)
Relative of yours? After all the pic is linked to your flicker account.ac_biggrin
For some reason it wouldn't link to the Facebook article.
Fuck, if that was a relative, I'd put him on a diet post haste. Probably got real close to the lion, which mistook him for a hippo.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: keeper on August 03, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Post by: keeper on August 03, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
You stay in your lane and I will stay in mine.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
When you shoot animals for entertainment, or for no real purpose other than to satisfy some primal lust that should have been eradicated centuries ago, you move into MY lane.
See, those animals are mine. And yours. And everyone else's on this planet.
You keep killing them, they will disappear, or you will deny me my pleasure in seeing these animals in their own habitat.
Those animals belong to the planet, not to humanity. Sure, some must be killed in order to sustain us, and I have no beef (pun intended) with that. Our survival is imperative.
But when meat is freely available through the market system,I fail to see any reason to go into the wild with lethal firearmsand slaughter them simply to make you feel more...human? That suggests that you may also feel compelled to engage in other activities undertaken by primitive humans, like rape, slavery, war, cannibalism and male dominated domestic violence. The fact the we impose our barbarity on other life forms does not excuse it.
For those who enjoy shooting and killing so much, I propose an alternative. Fence off an area of, say, 100 acres. Drop all wannabe hunters into the area with their firearms, and the last man or woman standing wins. Now, THAT would be something to be proud of.
You in, Azhya?
The reason is simple Spec, Over population. With out hunting you risk hunting areas (zones) being over run. For example if you stop allowing hunters to hunt Wolf or coyotes they become over populated and kill off ALL the deer,moose,Elk. By HUNTING them you equal out the areas.
I said this in Skype.
Edit: I should add that the Hunting laws in Alberta are very strict and well maintained.
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 10:42:32 PM
Post by: Frood on August 03, 2015, 10:42:32 PM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: keeper on August 03, 2015, 10:43:35 PM
Post by: keeper on August 03, 2015, 10:43:35 PM
Some people have the understanding of nature and their place in it. Other people approach nature with white gloves such as in Spectre's case.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I have a Diploma
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:16:52 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 04, 2015, 07:16:52 AM
I said this in Skype..
AGH!!
Keeper, you fool!!!
Dinky is gonna freak. You're not supposed to disclose issues raised in Skype!!!
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: Frood on August 04, 2015, 10:00:07 AM
Post by: Frood on August 04, 2015, 10:00:07 AM
Title: Re: American Dentist Murders then Decapitates a Popular Rare & defenseless Lion
Post by: keeper on August 04, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
Post by: keeper on August 04, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
I said this in Skype..
AGH!!
Keeper, you fool!!!
Dinky is gonna freak. You're not supposed to disclose issues raised in Skype!!!