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Title: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 01:02:52 AM
If the lovely Dove can do it, so can I!!!



Go on. Ask me anything!!!!



EXCEPT HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ANYONE!!!!



 acc_angry
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 01:05:54 AM
Sexy cop in uniform pics?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 13, 2015, 01:27:46 AM
lol @ RW



priceless!!



But next you will want clothing removal in stages
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 02:11:16 AM
Shhhh cc!  Don't scare him off early ;)
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 13, 2015, 02:28:30 AM
[size=60]ok. I'll shut up and let you suck him in[/size]
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 02:30:36 AM
[size=50]Good call.  I can suck a golf ball through 20ft of garden hose.[/size]
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 13, 2015, 02:39:00 AM
lol



[size=55]I can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch ball ... so there[/size]
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 02:39:44 AM
Are you guys whispering?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 02:40:07 AM
Quote from: "RW"Sexy cop in uniform pics?




Oddly, I do not have ONE pic of me in uniform.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"Sexy cop in uniform pics?




Oddly, I do not have ONE pic of me in uniform.

Want me to make one for you?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 13, 2015, 02:43:07 AM
lol



Gotta go bed - G'night my friends
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 02:43:45 AM
Nighty night cc.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 02:56:41 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"If the lovely Dove can do it, so can I!!!



Go on. Ask me anything!!!!



EXCEPT HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ANYONE!!!!



 acc_angry

Are you taught at the police academy to never answer that question?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 03:13:42 AM
NO!!! ITS BECAUSE EVERYONE ASKS IT!!!
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 13, 2015, 03:15:43 AM
Is it considered an accomplishment to never have fired your weapon in the line of duty?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 03:18:14 AM
Yes. Discharging a weapon is tantamount to failure.



Of course, there are occasions when the choice is not yours...but no-one looks forward to a shootout. We were trained to contain and reason.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2015, 03:36:26 AM
Most bizarre call you've been on?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 03:57:03 AM
Mmmm...probably the family dispute, where a rather obese woman came home to find her husband humping the neighbour. When we arrived, the woman, her husband and near naked female neighbour were standing in the room with the neighbours husband.



The outraged wife was holding a knife at her belly, and threatened to stab herself if the husband of the tart her husband was humping didn't agree to wife swap.



The knife she was holding was a pen knife with a 3 inch blade that would never have penetrated the layers of fat.



As we walked in, all four were screaming and yelling at each other.



Then, there was the smell...
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2015, 04:59:35 AM
Eeewwwww
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2015, 05:03:41 AM
My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: asal on August 13, 2015, 06:26:51 AM
Why did you become a cop?  Are you glad you did?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?


Gee, that's a toughie.



Probably a 10 yr old kid who stole a car.



His parents were wastes of flesh, but the kid was known to everyone as a good, honest lad. Then one day, he just hopped in a car and drove it around.



When I found him, I contacted his parents to join me at the station where I would take his details and report him, after which he would attend court via summons.



But his parents wouldn't comply, leaving me no choice but to arrest.



Putting a 10 year old kid in a cell is hard to do.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 13, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Have you ever participated in a random breathalyzer stop (roadblock checkpoint) and have a motorist produce a dictionary with the actual definition of random highlighted?



What are your feelings on the current drive to militarize Australia's cops as has been done already in North America with armored vehicles, drones, military weaponry, and crowd control tools like tasers, sprays, water cannons, sonic weapons, rubber and beanbag rounds, plus crowd control tactics designed to intimidate and force immediate compliance?



Do you feel there is a distinction between law enforcement and keeping of the peace, if any, and where should personal discretion by officers factor into this, if at all?



How often did you break a rule in your personal daily life which you were tasked to enforce on others in your working life, and did you or your coworkers report it or have you arrested, charged, fined, or penalized for it?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?


Gee, that's a toughie.



Probably a 10 yr old kid who stole a car.



His parents were wastes of flesh, but the kid was known to everyone as a good, honest lad. Then one day, he just hopped in a car and drove it around.



When I found him, I contacted his parents to join me at the station where I would take his details and report him, after which he would attend court via summons.



But his parents wouldn't comply, leaving me no choice but to arrest.



Putting a 10 year old kid in a cell is hard to do.

wtf? It's legal to put a kid in a cell with adults in Australia? That's nuts.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: "asal"Why did you become a cop?  Are you glad you did?


Like many cops, the need for social status and the chance to be a hero.



No, I'm not glad I did, but it was a good idea at the time.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Have you ever participated in a random breathalyzer stop (roadblock checkpoint) and have a motorist produce a dictionary with the actual definition of random highlighted?


No.


Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"What are your feelings on the current drive to militarize Australia's cops as has been done already in North America with armored vehicles, drones, military weaponry, and crowd control tools like tasers, sprays, water cannons, sonic weapons, rubber and beanbag rounds, plus crowd control tactics designed to intimidate and force immediate compliance?


Not being cognisant of the factors that make them believe this is necessary, its hard to say. But generally, I think its overkill. Australians are not as violent as Americans.


Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Do you feel there is a distinction between law enforcement and keeping of the peace, if any, and where should personal discretion by officers factor into this, if at all?


Yes. Personal discretion applies when an outcome can be achieved without the use of judicail force.


Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"How often did you break a rule in your personal daily life which you were tasked to enforce on others in your working life, and did you or your coworkers report it or have you arrested, charged, fined, or penalized for it?


Regularly. Cops are humans, too.



Yes. Fined twice for speeding.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?


Gee, that's a toughie.



Probably a 10 yr old kid who stole a car.



His parents were wastes of flesh, but the kid was known to everyone as a good, honest lad. Then one day, he just hopped in a car and drove it around.



When I found him, I contacted his parents to join me at the station where I would take his details and report him, after which he would attend court via summons.



But his parents wouldn't comply, leaving me no choice but to arrest.



Putting a 10 year old kid in a cell is hard to do.

wtf? It's legal to put a kid in a cell with adults in Australia? That's nuts.


It was in a provincial city that had no facilities to handle juvenile prisoners. There was no other option. It was heart rending.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 14, 2015, 06:24:28 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Have you ever participated in a random breathalyzer stop (roadblock checkpoint) and have a motorist produce a dictionary with the actual definition of random highlighted?


No.


How would you reacted had it happened and what thoughts might you have thought at the time?


Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"What are your feelings on the current drive to militarize Australia's cops as has been done already in North America with armored vehicles, drones, military weaponry, and crowd control tools like tasers, sprays, water cannons, sonic weapons, rubber and beanbag rounds, plus crowd control tactics designed to intimidate and force immediate compliance?


Not being cognisant of the factors that make them believe this is necessary, its hard to say. But generally, I think its overkill. Australians are not as violent as Americans.


You've served in a police capacity in the USA also?


Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Do you feel there is a distinction between law enforcement and keeping of the peace, if any, and where should personal discretion by officers factor into this, if at all?


Yes. Personal discretion applies when an outcome can be achieved without the use of judicail force.


Do you think it not dangerous to allow the hand of the law to decide what the brain of the law does or doesn't decree?


Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"How often did you break a rule in your personal daily life which you were tasked to enforce on others in your working life, and did you or your coworkers report it or have you arrested, charged, fined, or penalized for it?


Regularly. Cops are humans, too.



Yes. Fined twice for speeding.


Did you report yourself or did one of your coworkers?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 14, 2015, 07:52:51 AM
Did you ever see another officer do anything illegal (pocketing drugs, stealing money, tampering with evidence?  Did you report him/her?



Does the whole "it's a lot of paper work" thing hold true?



How unrealistic (or realistic) do you find police work to be depicted in the movies?  What is something we see in the movies that police NEVER do?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 14, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
LOL



^ Renee's baaaaaack     :thumbup:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?


Gee, that's a toughie.



Probably a 10 yr old kid who stole a car.



His parents were wastes of flesh, but the kid was known to everyone as a good, honest lad. Then one day, he just hopped in a car and drove it around.



When I found him, I contacted his parents to join me at the station where I would take his details and report him, after which he would attend court via summons.



But his parents wouldn't comply, leaving me no choice but to arrest.



Putting a 10 year old kid in a cell is hard to do.

wtf? It's legal to put a kid in a cell with adults in Australia? That's nuts.


It was in a provincial city that had no facilities to handle juvenile prisoners. There was no other option. It was heart rending.

I hope there were no peds in the holding cell with the kid.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Did you report yourself or did one of your coworkers?


No, I reported myself.



I needed the numbers for end of month.



Were you always this stupid, or did you experience a major car or industrial accident that left you with brain damage?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 07:45:06 PM
Quote from: "RW"Did you ever see another officer do anything illegal (pocketing drugs, stealing money, tampering with evidence?  Did you report him/her?


No. Our Department was fairly clean with a solid culture of honesty. It happened...but not around me.


Quote from: "RW"Does the whole "it's a lot of paper work" thing hold true?


Well, it did then. Nowadays, with much advanced technology, it may not be as onerous. We used typewriters. They have word processors.


Quote from: "RW"How unrealistic (or realistic) do you find police work to be depicted in the movies?  What is something we see in the movies that police NEVER do?


About as realistic as Star Wars is to space travel. As most cop movies are American, I cannot say what the relation is between what you see and what is done over there. We don't do shootouts. Also, I tend not to watch cop movies.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2015, 07:45:38 PM
I have a question!



...ah...er...um...what are we talking about again?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My brother is a policeman in Manitoba SPECTRE..



Can you tell us about a time you had to take someone in that you felt sorry for?


Gee, that's a toughie.



Probably a 10 yr old kid who stole a car.



His parents were wastes of flesh, but the kid was known to everyone as a good, honest lad. Then one day, he just hopped in a car and drove it around.



When I found him, I contacted his parents to join me at the station where I would take his details and report him, after which he would attend court via summons.



But his parents wouldn't comply, leaving me no choice but to arrest.



Putting a 10 year old kid in a cell is hard to do.

wtf? It's legal to put a kid in a cell with adults in Australia? That's nuts.


It was in a provincial city that had no facilities to handle juvenile prisoners. There was no other option. It was heart rending.

I hope there were no peds in the holding cell with the kid.


Kids and female cells were in a separate building.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 14, 2015, 07:47:06 PM
How extensive was the driving training you received?  And have you ever participated in a high speed chase?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
Did you ever see a fellow police officer use excessive force?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2015, 07:54:50 PM
Were you a dirty cop?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: "RW"How extensive was the driving training you received?  And have you ever participated in a high speed chase?


Pathetically inadequate.



Several.They are no fun.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Did you ever see a fellow police officer use excessive force?


Interesting question.



Yes.



But any force can be deemed "excessive". It depends on the situation and circumstance.



They were different days, and community expectations were not as they are today. However, nothing on the scale of force employed by US officers...nowhere near it. And any who did use excessive force were frequently arrested and charged with assault.



These days, I believe it is rare.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Were you a dirty cop?


NO!!!!



I showered every day.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Did you ever see a fellow police officer use excessive force?


Interesting question.



Yes.



But any force can be deemed "excessive". It depends on the situation and circumstance.



They were different days, and community expectations were not as they are today. However, nothing on the scale of force employed by US officers...nowhere near it. And any who did use excessive force were frequently arrested and charged with assault.



These days, I believe it is rare.

Do police investigate other police officers when allegations of excessive force are brought forward, perhaps supported by a video?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 09:17:17 PM
Yes.



There is an internal investigation unit.



Also, an Ombudsman's Office with powers to review and investigate.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 14, 2015, 09:46:08 PM
Why did you stop being a cop?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
I grew up, and realised that what seemed like a good idea at 16 (and probably was), was not so sensible at 35.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2015, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Yes.



There is an internal investigation unit.



Also, an Ombudsman's Office with powers to review and investigate.

That's almost the same as in Canada SPECTRE.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 15, 2015, 08:08:10 PM
Yes, everything about Australia is the same as Canada. We are twins, I think.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 15, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
How did your family deal with you being a cop?  Was it stressful for them?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 15, 2015, 08:42:26 PM
Very.



It was one of the factors that told me I wasn't going to put them through this for another 20 odd years...the benefits and rewards did not add up.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 15, 2015, 08:50:28 PM
I can only imagine the fretting.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 15, 2015, 10:04:29 PM
It wasn't good.



Plus kids at school getting taunted and bullied.



I don't miss a day.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 15, 2015, 10:16:37 PM
Kids with a police officer for a dad were bullied?!?!
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 16, 2015, 01:24:38 AM
As I don't know at what point in your life you  came to Oz, I'll ask if you were police in UK?, Oz? or both?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: keeper on August 16, 2015, 01:46:41 AM
Did you get to carry a side arm?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2015, 06:39:17 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"As I don't know at what point in your life you  came to Oz, I'll ask if you were police in UK?, Oz? or both?


Oz.


QuoteDid you get to carry a side arm?


Always. Sometimes something more..er...persuasive...
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 16, 2015, 01:02:57 PM
Thanks for your reply.



Aw. So you have spent most or all of your adult life in Oz, thus likely becoming more an Oz than a Brit?



I realize it is a hard life in many ways for a cop and for his family. I have a lot of respect for the sacrifice of those who do it.

 Because of so many who will take advantage of others in so many vile ways,  there would be no civilized society without authority
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 16, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Did you report yourself or did one of your coworkers?


No, I reported myself.



I needed the numbers for end of month.



Were you always this stupid, or did you experience a major car or industrial accident that left you with brain damage?


Take it to the insult section, Gramps.  ac_razz
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Did you ever see a fellow police officer use excessive force?


Interesting question.



Yes.



But any force can be deemed "excessive". It depends on the situation and circumstance.



They were different days, and community expectations were not as they are today. However, nothing on the scale of force employed by US officers...nowhere near it. And any who did use excessive force were frequently arrested and charged with assault.



These days, I believe it is rare.

When I was about 20, I saw a white and an East Indian cop beating the shit out of an Aboriginal guy who was in cuffs at the time. I don't what he did, but he was obviously no threat to the two cops. Lots of similar stories like that right across this frozen land.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2015, 07:54:54 PM
I think the Australia attitude of fair play tempers cops doing something quite so brutal here. It happens, no doubt. But once a guy is in handcuffs, then no further violence should be necessary.



For a start, those fucking things HURT.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 16, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: "Renee"How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?

You missed one.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2015, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I think the Australia attitude of fair play tempers cops doing something quite so brutal here. It happens, no doubt. But once a guy is in handcuffs, then no further violence should be necessary.



For a start, those fucking things HURT.

It's a lot less common everywhere because a video of a beating showing up right after it happens on youtube is not good for a cop's promotion chances.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
I'm sure that's a factor these days. Wasn't back then, of course.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?

You missed one.


It's okay, he doesn't have to answer; it was just a little levity. Cops in Australia are probably far too principled, straight-laced and evolved to do something like that anyway. :laugh3:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: "RW"Kids with a police officer for a dad were bullied?!?!


I experienced a lot of bullying growing up but I don't ever remember any of it stemming from being the daughter of a cop. In fact I think it might have saved me some grief on occasion. I did get some minor teasing as a teen regarding what would happen if my dad ever busted me for smoking weed but it was pretty harmless and all in fun.



Things must be different in Oz.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 01:18:39 PM
We didn't pick on people who had cop parents.  Then again, we didn't pick on anyone really.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 01:22:48 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?

You missed one.


It's okay, he doesn't have to answer; it was just a little levity. Cops in Australia are probably far too principled, straight-laced and evolved to do something like that anyway. :laugh3:

I think he does.  It's ask a cop "anything".  You asked something.  He needs to answer.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 17, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"We didn't pick on people who had cop parents.  Then again, we didn't pick on anyone really.


We did. Small town and all, we knew who was pulled over or harassed and why. Most of it was hearsay or based on complete bullshit, but it was a power trip for the local minions in blue.



They never got invited to anything in our town and none of them lasted more than 2 years. They were punks replaced by punks. Most of them bused their children to out of the way schools because they knew they were punks. The ones who chose local schools had children who used to mouth off about things they overheard their parent say, and got severely put in their place by the rest of the town people, us kids included.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: J0E on August 17, 2015, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"If the lovely Dove can do it, so can I!!!



Go on. Ask me anything!!!!



EXCEPT HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ANYONE!!!!



 acc_angry


Is there any truth to the statement, "Police officers dont't own their badges or uniforms, they are owned by them."



In other words, once a Cop always a cop, and even if a person wishes to dissociate themselves from their career in law enforcement, they never can because it's part of them for the rest of their life.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 05:52:37 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I think the Australia attitude of fair play tempers cops doing something quite so brutal here. It happens, no doubt. But once a guy is in handcuffs, then no further violence should be necessary.



For a start, those fucking things HURT.

Are you sure. This is a video of Aussie cops tasering an unarmed Aboriginal man with a learning disability.

Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 07:05:45 PM
I DID say it happens, didn't I?



No police force is squeaky clean. The main problem is they recruit humans to do the job.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?

You missed one.


Oops. Sorry.



Answer; ALL of them.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 17, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Did you want to make it to "detective?"
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I think the Australia attitude of fair play tempers cops doing something quite so brutal here. It happens, no doubt. But once a guy is in handcuffs, then no further violence should be necessary.



For a start, those fucking things HURT.

Are you sure. This is a video of Aussie cops tasering an unarmed Aboriginal man with a learning disability.


I fixed it for you Herman.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you want to make it to "detective?"


I did undercover work for a while, in Vice.



But as a full time detective, no. It did not appeal.



Forget what you see in movies. Detective work is humdrum, tedious, and highly overrated.



Detectives rarely apprehend offenders. 90% of their time is conducting "enquiries".



It simply did not suit my psychology of needing a dynamic and challenging work environment. But, then again, after 20 years, neither did being a police officer.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you want to make it to "detective?"


I did undercover work for a while, in Vice.



But as a full time detective, no. It did not appeal.



Forget what you see in movies. Detective work is humdrum, tedious, and highly overrated.



Detectives rarely apprehend offenders. 90% of their time is conducting "enquiries".



It simply did not suit my psychology of needing a dynamic and challenging work environment. But, then again, after 20 years, neither did being a police officer.

Were you a policeman long enough to collect a pension SPECTRE?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Quote from: "Frank"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"If the lovely Dove can do it, so can I!!!



Go on. Ask me anything!!!!



EXCEPT HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ANYONE!!!!



 acc_angry


Is there any truth to the statement, "Police officers dont't own their badges or uniforms, they are owned by them."


Completely. My problem was that the uniform and badge didn't "own" me, to the extent that I felt complete. As I grew older, I realised that to continue as a police officer, I would have to submit to total possession; that is not who I am. It meant a total abandonment of your personality, and your family, to become a cyborg of sorts.



I looked at what was happening to those around me of my vintage and realised I could never be myself, and one of them, simultaneously.



Happily, the Force generously endowed selected officers the opportunity for a fully paid university course, complete with commensurate leave entitlements. I undertook such a course, then left.



These days, if you apply and are accepted, you have to sign a 10 year contract, or else repay full study costs.



Whew...
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you want to make it to "detective?"


I did undercover work for a while, in Vice.



But as a full time detective, no. It did not appeal.



Forget what you see in movies. Detective work is humdrum, tedious, and highly overrated.



Detectives rarely apprehend offenders. 90% of their time is conducting "enquiries".



It simply did not suit my psychology of needing a dynamic and challenging work environment. But, then again, after 20 years, neither did being a police officer.

Were you a policeman long enough to collect a pension SPECTRE?


Yes.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 08:32:15 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you want to make it to "detective?"


I did undercover work for a while, in Vice.



But as a full time detective, no. It did not appeal.



Forget what you see in movies. Detective work is humdrum, tedious, and highly overrated.



Detectives rarely apprehend offenders. 90% of their time is conducting "enquiries".



It simply did not suit my psychology of needing a dynamic and challenging work environment. But, then again, after 20 years, neither did being a police officer.

Were you a policeman long enough to collect a pension SPECTRE?


Yes.

Oh that's wonderful SPECTRE..



What did you do after policing?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 09:30:48 PM
I studied and went into IT and business management.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 09:35:25 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I studied and went into IT and business management.

Both are lucrative fields SPECTRE..



Is your business management experience in the IT field?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 17, 2015, 09:36:21 PM
BTW - Thanks spec. This was a good thread and an informative thread
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I studied and went into IT and business management.

Both are lucrative fields SPECTRE..



Is your business management experience in the IT field?


It was...but it diversified into printing and marketing...
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 17, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"BTW - Thanks spec. This was a good thread and an informative thread


And...



I got more questions than the former stripper!!!



 :roll:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 17, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
:laugh:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2015, 05:00:39 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"I studied and went into IT and business management.

Both are lucrative fields SPECTRE..



Is your business management experience in the IT field?


It was...but it diversified into printing and marketing...

Have you worked for many companies?



Or have you been self employed?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 18, 2015, 05:02:54 AM
Worked for the Federal Government for 10 years, then on my own for a while then a private company.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2015, 05:05:08 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"Worked for the Federal Government for 10 years, then on my own for a while then a private company.

You've had a fascinating career SPECTRE.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 18, 2015, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"How many women did you pull over just to get their phone number or look down their blouse?

You missed one.


Oops. Sorry.



Answer; ALL of them.


I knew it.  :sneaky2:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 18, 2015, 07:28:15 PM
They LOVED it.



This one time, we stopped a drop dead gorgeous blond, and she was as drunk as noodle soup; As I stood by the drivers window, looking down her blouse, I thought I'd take a chance.



I unzipped my trousers and released the jolly roger.



She looked at it and said "Oh, nooo...this is the third breathalyser test in the last 10 miles..."
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 18, 2015, 09:00:40 PM
Did you deliver babies?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 18, 2015, 09:57:46 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"They LOVED it.



This one time, we stopped a drop dead gorgeous blond, and she was as drunk as noodle soup; As I stood by the drivers window, looking down her blouse, I thought I'd take a chance.



I unzipped my trousers and released the jolly roger.



She looked at it and said "Oh, nooo...this is the third breathalyser test in the last 10 miles..."

Hahaha
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: cc on August 18, 2015, 10:11:39 PM
:laugh:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 18, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you deliver babies?


No. They have storks for that.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: keeper on August 19, 2015, 03:26:05 AM
Do police officers really call their thing in the trousers a "jolly roger"?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 19, 2015, 06:40:56 AM
No.



A baton.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 19, 2015, 07:26:15 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Did you deliver babies?


No. They have storks for that.


Did you ever cite a stork for illegal roof parking and if so, what was the fine?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 19, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I tried.



But then I realised it wasn't a stork.



It was a crane.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 20, 2015, 01:44:27 AM
Have you ever misread stork as stroke then went and did it?



No, that wasn't a serious question.



These are though...



What is standard issue gear for a police uniform including what you carry on your belt?



Have you ever had a bullet proof vest or other police gear save your life?



Did you have a partner?  If yes, was it generally the same one?



Were there women in the force back then?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 20, 2015, 02:21:08 AM
Quote from: "RW"Have you ever misread stork as stroke then went and did it?


Crane. Stork. Geddit? Geddit?



Sigh...why do I bother...



No, that wasn't a serious question.



These are though...


Quote from: "RW"What is standard issue gear for a police uniform including what you carry on your belt?


Now, I don't know. They seem to have a hardware store around their girth. Then, pistol, cuffs and baton. Sometimes a torch.


Quote from: "RW"Have you ever had a bullet proof vest or other police gear save your life?


No.


Quote from: "RW"Did you have a partner?  If yes, was it generally the same one?


Several.


Quote from: "RW"Were there women in the force back then?


Yes.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 20, 2015, 02:22:09 AM
I got it :P
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 20, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
How many times a year were you required to qualify with your sidearm?



Did you ever fail to qualify?



Can police officers in Oz carry their own (dept. approved) duty weapon or are they required to carry the official issued sidearm?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 20, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 20, 2015, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: "Renee"How many times a year were you required to qualify with your sidearm?



Did you ever fail to qualify?



Can police officers in Oz carry their own (dept. approved) duty weapon or are they required to carry the official issued sidearm?


I was in the SWAT crew...we trained every week. There was no annual qualification process.



Can only carry Department issued firearm, and it is returned at end of shift (except in certain areas, such as undercover operators).
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 20, 2015, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?


Can you get any dumber? Oh, wait...of course you can.



Have YOU ever been queueing in Coles and a person in front declares "Before you scan my shit, I must inform you I'm a government employee?".



Have you seen people in the street wearing a badge "Government Employee"?



We live in Australia, idiot.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Wulf on August 20, 2015, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Renee"How many times a year were you required to qualify with your sidearm?



Did you ever fail to qualify?



Can police officers in Oz carry their own (dept. approved) duty weapon or are they required to carry the official issued sidearm?


I was in the SWAT crew...we trained every week. There was no annual qualification process.



Can only carry Department issued firearm, and it is returned at end of shift (except in certain areas, such as undercover operators).


I thought cops in Oz were just issued whistles. :laugh3:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 20, 2015, 10:13:17 PM
Well, you could always come down here and walk around town carrying a piece.



The only whistling you'd hear would be from the warning shots.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2015, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Renee"How many times a year were you required to qualify with your sidearm?



Did you ever fail to qualify?



Can police officers in Oz carry their own (dept. approved) duty weapon or are they required to carry the official issued sidearm?


I was in the SWAT crew...we trained every week. There was no annual qualification process.



Can only carry Department issued firearm, and it is returned at end of shift (except in certain areas, such as undercover operators).

Really? You turn in your gun at the end of your shift. I thought cops took their guns home.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 20, 2015, 11:53:05 PM
No. That's only in the US, to encourage all folks to gun up and shoot it out.



In most other countries, you leave them at work.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 05:43:02 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?


Can you get any dumber? Oh, wait...of course you can.



Have YOU ever been queueing in Coles and a person in front declares "Before you scan my shit, I must inform you I'm a government employee?".



Have you seen people in the street wearing a badge "Government Employee"?



We live in Australia, idiot.


So you've never been refused service, say at a restaurant or such, while you were wearing your uniform? It's happening more and more these days. Business owners rightly recognize that the presence of a pig can put people off of their food and I don't blame them one bit for instituting higher dress codes.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 21, 2015, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?


Can you get any dumber? Oh, wait...of course you can.



Have YOU ever been queueing in Coles and a person in front declares "Before you scan my shit, I must inform you I'm a government employee?".



Have you seen people in the street wearing a badge "Government Employee"?



We live in Australia, idiot.


So you've never been refused service, say at a restaurant or such, while you were wearing your uniform? It's happening more and more these days. Business owners rightly recognize that the presence of a pig can put people off of their food and I don't blame them one bit for instituting higher dress codes.

These days maybe but Spec was a cop in days past.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 06:23:32 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?


Can you get any dumber? Oh, wait...of course you can.



Have YOU ever been queueing in Coles and a person in front declares "Before you scan my shit, I must inform you I'm a government employee?".



Have you seen people in the street wearing a badge "Government Employee"?



We live in Australia, idiot.


So you've never been refused service, say at a restaurant or such, while you were wearing your uniform? It's happening more and more these days. Business owners rightly recognize that the presence of a pig can put people off of their food and I don't blame them one bit for instituting higher dress codes.

These days maybe but Spec was a cop in days past.


Which was why I asked the question. Our police forces have been tidied up over the last few decades into something resembling professional, at least on the surface. In the old days, they got away with a lot of shit and angered a lot of people. They still behave badly but keep it more on the down low.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 21, 2015, 06:25:01 AM
I think cops get a bad rap.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 06:30:07 AM
Most of it deserved, IMHO.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 21, 2015, 06:31:19 AM
Spec, do you think the bad rap cops have is deserved?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 06:43:06 AM
Why ask a former cop whether he was a piece of shit or not? There aren't many former cops who would state that they were thieving little power junkies with a dubious grasp on human ethics, though they were.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 21, 2015, 07:22:41 AM
And you know this because...???



Had some experience, have we sunshine? Or is this just another example of you running your mouth without engaging that walnut sized brain.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 21, 2015, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Spectre, were you ever refused service at a restaurant or point of consumer sales because the owner did not want to serve government employees (for whatever personal reasons)?


Can you get any dumber? Oh, wait...of course you can.



Have YOU ever been queueing in Coles and a person in front declares "Before you scan my shit, I must inform you I'm a government employee?".



Have you seen people in the street wearing a badge "Government Employee"?



We live in Australia, idiot.


So you've never been refused service, say at a restaurant or such, while you were wearing your uniform? It's happening more and more these days. Business owners rightly recognize that the presence of a pig can put people off of their food and I don't blame them one bit for instituting higher dress codes.

These days maybe but Spec was a cop in days past.


Oh, please...stop buying into this farthead's delusions.



He's as clueless as he is irrelevant.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 07:26:39 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"And you know this because...???



Had some experience, have we sunshine? Or is this just another example of you running your mouth without engaging that walnut sized brain.


I'm engaging the walnut sized brain, right, now.


Quote from: "SPECTRE"


Oh, please...stop buying into this farthead's delusions.



He's as clueless as he is irrelevant.


It must be true. A former pig said it, so it's true yeah? ac_toofunny
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 21, 2015, 07:28:44 AM
So, are you going to inform us how you're an authority on police officers?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Frood on August 21, 2015, 07:37:12 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"So, are you going to inform us how you're an authority on police officers?


No



The onus for disproving that cops are upright walking pigs who thrive on the perception of authority while stealing from those they're supposedly tasked to serve, does in fact fall on you.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2015, 09:07:01 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"So, are you going to inform us how you're an authority on police officers?


No



The onus for disproving that cops are upright walking pigs who thrive on the perception of authority while stealing from those they're supposedly tasked to serve, does in fact fall on you.

My brother is a policeman Dinky Diana..



He is nothing like what you wrote.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 21, 2015, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: "SPECTRE"No. That's only in the US, to encourage all folks to gun up and shoot it out.



In most other countries, you leave them at work.


Wrong, in the US an off duty cop is never really off duty. He or she is encouraged; no required; to be ready "to protect and serve" even when they are in their civvies. As the daughter of an ex-cop I can honestly say that my male parental unit would take extreme umbrage with what you have insinuated.



I'm sorry that the police force down-under doesn't take their position in the community as seriously as they do in other countries but it's not another excuse for you to make shit up about another countries police force. Who the fuck do you think you are...Joe? :sneaky2:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Renee on August 21, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: "RW"I think cops get a bad rap.


For the most part they do. Most are decent people who go out everyday and put their lives on the line for you and I but like the rest of us they are flawed. Unfortunately there is that minority that is very flawed and they are the ones that garner all the attention. It also doesn't help that they are demonized in the media for simply doing their jobs and the soft headed, d-bags out there eat it up like a fat kid eats cake.  :nea:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 21, 2015, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"So, are you going to inform us how you're an authority on police officers?


No



The onus for disproving that cops are upright walking pigs who thrive on the perception of authority while stealing from those they're supposedly tasked to serve, does in fact fall on you.


Really? I didn't know!!!



 :oeudC:



Well, that changes everything.



I'll get back to you on that.
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 21, 2015, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "SPECTRE"No. That's only in the US, to encourage all folks to gun up and shoot it out.



In most other countries, you leave them at work.


Wrong, in the US an off duty cop is never really off duty. He or she is encouraged; no required; to be ready "to protect and serve" even when they are in their civvies. As the daughter of an ex-cop I can honestly say that my male parental unit would take extreme umbrage with what you have insinuated.



I'm sorry that the police force down-under doesn't take their position in the community as seriously as they do in other countries but it's not another excuse for you to make shit up about another countries police force. Who the fuck do you think you are...Joe? :sneaky2:


I am sorry for any offence caused by my remarks. Please don't tell your dad.



 :sad:



The same applies here. Cops are duty bound 24/7. Just without guns, which is the point I was addressing. No need for them.



Let us not fight. :6:
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 02:08:52 PM
If you pick up a drunk and he/she pukes in the back of your car, who cleans it up?  Also where is it cleaned?
Title: Re: SPECTRE'S ask a retired cop anything
Post by: Bricktop on August 22, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: "RW"If you pick up a drunk and he/she pukes in the back of your car, who cleans it up?  Also where is it cleaned?


Dunno about now, but then, if it was your arrest, you cleaned it up.



In the city there used to be a carwash in the Police Mechanics workshops, but I don't think so these days.



I would imagine fleet maintainence is now privatised.