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Title: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
I found some thread. A Liberal former Premier of Ontario we know well



Pan Am Games manager sues David Peterson, alleging harassment (//http)



A female manager with the Pan and Parapan American Games alleges in a newly commenced lawsuit she was sexually harassed by former Ontario premier and TO2015 chair David Peterson and that when she complained to human resources and senior officials, she was first told to "let it roll off your back" and was then demoted.



An alleged history of flirtatious greetings that escalated into unwanted hugs, sexually tinged remarks and public humiliation at the hands of Mr. Peterson is outlined in a statement of claim Ximena Morris, 34, filed on Thursday with the Ontario Superior Court. In addition to Mr. Peterson, she also names the Pan and Parapan Am Games organizing committee, the Canadian Olympic Committee (a partner of the Games) and three members of the executive team at TO2015: CEO Saad Rafi, head of human resources and general counsel Karen Hacker, and senior vice-president of public affairs Amir Remtulla, who are alleged to have contributed to Ms. Morris's constructive dismissal at the organization.



None of the allegations have been proven in court and the defendants have not yet filed their defence outlining their version of events.



Mr. Peterson called the allegations "wild and untrue."



...........



Seems maybe a gorgeous and famous in her own right woman at home wasn't enough ... assuming of course allegations are valid
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: J0E on August 14, 2015, 01:20:19 PM
Victim or Golddigger?



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....curious why allegations of sexual harassment always seem to crop up when it involves men of wealth in a position of power. Its never the ordinary Joe the 'victims' seem to go after.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 01:34:42 PM
Maybe because men who seek  wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature



Mate has a family full of high powered politicians, so we get to see it inside



That said, in his case it's only allegations  at this time



Please no one try the "power corrupts" on for size either. Mate has a family full of high powered politicians.

We have seen so much from the inside.

It's the opposite. Pricks seek power and sell their souls to make it happen
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 14, 2015, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: "Frank"Victim or Golddigger?

Because there's so much money to be made in claiming sexual harassment.


Quote from: "Frank"....curious why allegations of sexual harassment always seem to crop up when it involves men of wealth in a position of power. Its never the ordinary Joe the 'victims' seem to go after.

Sexual harassment is way too common but obviously only high profile cases make the news. Bill Cosby is in the news. Do you think that means women aren't raped by "ordinary Joe's"?



Wealthy, powerful men aren't less likely to sexually harass.



Perhaps you could find it in your heart to wait just a few more minutes before assuming she's lying.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: J0E on August 14, 2015, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Maybe because men who seek  wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature



Mate has a family full of high powered politicians, so we get to see it inside



That said, in his case it's only allegations  at this time



Please no one try the "power corrupts" on for size either. Mate has a family full of high powered politicians.

We have seen so much from the inside.

It's the opposite. Pricks seek power and sell their souls to make it happen


But you're assuming that the accused are guilty before all the facts have come in.

Why not wait 'til passing judgement?
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 02:27:54 PM
errrrrr  ... you already quoted me as saying this
QuoteThat said, in his case it's only allegations at this time
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: RW on August 14, 2015, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Maybe because men who seek  wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature



Mate has a family full of high powered politicians, so we get to see it inside



That said, in his case it's only allegations  at this time



Please no one try the "power corrupts" on for size either. Mate has a family full of high powered politicians.

We have seen so much from the inside.

It's the opposite. Pricks seek power and sell their souls to make it happen

Or maybe when the average Joe does it, it doesn't make the news.



I've also see the inside of this circle and I have found many horny dudes.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I found some thread. A Liberal former Premier of Ontario we know well



Pan Am Games manager sues David Peterson, alleging harassment (//http)



A female manager with the Pan and Parapan American Games alleges in a newly commenced lawsuit she was sexually harassed by former Ontario premier and TO2015 chair David Peterson and that when she complained to human resources and senior officials, she was first told to "let it roll off your back" and was then demoted.



An alleged history of flirtatious greetings that escalated into unwanted hugs, sexually tinged remarks and public humiliation at the hands of Mr. Peterson is outlined in a statement of claim Ximena Morris, 34, filed on Thursday with the Ontario Superior Court. In addition to Mr. Peterson, she also names the Pan and Parapan Am Games organizing committee, the Canadian Olympic Committee (a partner of the Games) and three members of the executive team at TO2015: CEO Saad Rafi, head of human resources and general counsel Karen Hacker, and senior vice-president of public affairs Amir Remtulla, who are alleged to have contributed to Ms. Morris's constructive dismissal at the organization.



None of the allegations have been proven in court and the defendants have not yet filed their defence outlining their version of events.



Mr. Peterson called the allegations "wild and untrue."



...........



Seems maybe a gorgeous and famous in her own right woman at home wasn't enough ... assuming of course allegations are valid

So David Petersen is your husband's cousin's husband? Have you met him? Is he as arrogant as he appears in front of a camera?
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 05:35:13 PM
Know him well. When we lived in ON we saw them all a lot. Last saw him and his wife (one of mate's my special cousins) at a family funeral a few months ago.

Her sister was Ontario Heath minister until stupid took over recently. The ladies are special to my mate having grown up together.



He was pretty cool actually, easy to talk to and showed no obvious outward affects of power. His wife is a true gem, despite filthy rich.



His family is loaded to the teeth with high power politicians and business owners.  A different world, gives us a good inside look at the players and how they play.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Know him well. When we lived in ON we saw them all a lot. Last saw him and his wife (one of mate's my special cousins) at a family funeral a few months ago.

Her sister was Ontario Heath minister until stupid took over recently. The ladies are special to my mate having grown up together.



He was pretty cool actually, easy to talk to and showed no obvious outward affects of power. His wife is a true gem, despite filthy rich.



His family is loaded to the teeth with high power politicians and business owners.  A different world, gives us a good inside look at the players and how they play.

I never lived in Ontario, but I never thought of David Petersen as a bad premier like Wynn. But, he came across as full of himself. Good to know I was wrong.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 14, 2015, 06:14:49 PM
He could well be, but was down to earth at family events



I didn't like what I saw on TV  a few weeks ago as the Pan Ams ended. He was immediately suggesting this proves TO can go for Olympics, with zero regard  for the havoc either games cause for working people and businesses. Many events were downtown, a very bad and thoughtless plan in my eyes
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"He could well be, but was down to earth at family events



I didn't like what I saw on TV  a few weeks ago as the Pan Ams ended. He was immediately suggesting this proves TO can go for Olympics, with zero regard  for the havoc either games cause for working people and businesses. Many events were downtown, a very bad and thoughtless plan in my eyes

I didn't see it, but if I lived in Toronto, I would oppose it too.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: J0E on August 14, 2015, 06:36:21 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"errrrrr  ... you already quoted me as saying this
QuoteThat said, in his case it's only allegations at this time


QuoteMaybe because men who seek wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature

It's the opposite. Pricks seek power and sell their souls to make it happen


Well, you make a point that people in power step on their subordinates and sell their sells to get there.

So it seems that you have bias against the accused.



However, I'm still not convinced that this woman is telling the truth. How do we know that she wasn't just incompetent and was let go because she couldn't do her job?



There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.



I had an experience some months ago where someone phoned me pleading for help that she was being beaten by her boyfriend.

So I tried to help her best I could, and I phoned some halfway houses which could put her up for the night.

I also contacted some agencies which deal with domestic violence which could counsel her in her time of need.

I was on the phone with these agencies, rape relief centres/halfway houses for a good 2 or 3 hours.

It turned out she was lying as he was drunk lying on the couch and couldn't have possibly harmed her in that state.

In the process, it ruined a relationship I was trying to cultivate with another woman



I contacted her to assist the woman who was supposedly in distress, and as a result of that incident, she didn't want to seem my anymore.

I got the blame for an incident which I never initiated and never wanted to be part of.

I became guilty by association.

All the accuser could say to me later was "I'm sorry." Yeah right and it just trashed my own life. Thaaaanks!

In reality, the accuser didn't care. She put me through the ringer for her inability to face up to her own problem of domestic abuse.

And She got she wanted - a moment of glory where she felt empowered and could put her boyfriend in her place. All at my expense.



There are women who are users and they see these incidents as an opportunity to elevate their own status in life at the expense of others.



They don't seem to care about their consequences of their own actions.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 14, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 14, 2015, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I found some thread. A Liberal former Premier of Ontario we know well



Pan Am Games manager sues David Peterson, alleging harassment (//http)



A female manager with the Pan and Parapan American Games alleges in a newly commenced lawsuit she was sexually harassed by former Ontario premier and TO2015 chair David Peterson and that when she complained to human resources and senior officials, she was first told to "let it roll off your back" and was then demoted.



An alleged history of flirtatious greetings that escalated into unwanted hugs, sexually tinged remarks and public humiliation at the hands of Mr. Peterson is outlined in a statement of claim Ximena Morris, 34, filed on Thursday with the Ontario Superior Court. In addition to Mr. Peterson, she also names the Pan and Parapan Am Games organizing committee, the Canadian Olympic Committee (a partner of the Games) and three members of the executive team at TO2015: CEO Saad Rafi, head of human resources and general counsel Karen Hacker, and senior vice-president of public affairs Amir Remtulla, who are alleged to have contributed to Ms. Morris's constructive dismissal at the organization.



None of the allegations have been proven in court and the defendants have not yet filed their defence outlining their version of events.



Mr. Peterson called the allegations "wild and untrue."



...........



Seems maybe a gorgeous and famous in her own right woman at home wasn't enough ... assuming of course allegations are valid

I feel silly, but his name slips my mind right now.

 ac_blush
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 14, 2015, 08:09:44 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:

Romero, I believe she was speaking generally, not specifically sexual harassment..



That's what I think, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: cc on August 15, 2015, 02:28:19 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Seems maybe a gorgeous and famous in her own right woman at home wasn't enough ... assuming of course allegations are valid

I feel silly, but his name slips my mind right now.

 ac_blush
Shelly  .. you may know her as a best selling author and  Canada TV series lead actress,  .. really neat lady .. one of his favorites as a kid



He was very disappointed in her for doing her silly selfish TV show at the very time  David was Premier, as were many others. In life people make commitments ... a family and especially a mate makes a powerful commitment toward Premier, and it cheapened his role ... some want everything and don't realize there are choices we make in life .. we felt she could have waited until he gave up or lost such an important role. We  can't have it all and make all work to the extent committed without sacrifices ... any how that was our feeling at the time. There were several stories on the wisdom, so it wasn't just us. We still love her, just wished she would have grown up sooner and not tried to have  it all at the same time                                                                            





Q's old "the vast majority"  ... good you nailed him on that lame copout Renee
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:


"Lame"? Let's be serious for a moment; whats "lame" is when someone uses a phrase like "the vast majority" to try and support their opinion. It means you really have no idea what your talking about. It's a "poke and hope" phrase used by uniformed dolts who should probably just keep quite.



But to be fair, it's not as "lame" as being a grown "man" who needs to refer to the Huffington Post or Thinkprogress before he can formulate an opinion.  :laugh:
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 17, 2015, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:


"Lame"? Let's be serious for a moment; whats "lame" is when someone uses a phrase like "the vast majority" to try and support their opinion. It means you really have no idea what your talking about. It's a "poke and hope" phrase used by uniformed dolts who should probably just keep quite.



But to be fair, it's not as "lame" as being a grown "man" who needs to refer to the Huffington Post or Thinkprogress before he can formulate an opinion.  :laugh:

Haven't you learned that getting outraged over nothing isn't good for your mental health?



The hilarious thing is you don't even disagree with my statement!
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
I think the point is you have nothing to qualify a statement like "the vast majority of women who claim they have been sexually assaulted are telling the truth".  Adding such quantifiers that lack real substance weaken your argument.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 02:36:48 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think the point is you have nothing to qualify a statement like "the vast majority of women who claim they have been sexually assaulted are telling the truth".  Adding such quantifiers that lack real substance weaken your argument.


 :thumbup: Somebody gets it.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 17, 2015, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think the point is you have nothing to qualify a statement like "the vast majority of women who claim they have been sexually assaulted are telling the truth".  Adding such quantifiers that lack real substance weaken your argument.

I never wrote those words. Why are you trying to claim I wrote those words?



Much ado about nothing.


Quote from: "cc la femme"Maybe because men who seek  wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature

So, where is all the faux outrage over cc's lack of real numbers and quantifiers?



And you don't disagree with the statement I actually did make either.



A couple of nitpicking hens. :laugh:
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:


"Lame"? Let's be serious for a moment; whats "lame" is when someone uses a phrase like "the vast majority" to try and support their opinion. It means you really have no idea what your talking about. It's a "poke and hope" phrase used by uniformed dolts who should probably just keep quite.



But to be fair, it's not as "lame" as being a grown "man" who needs to refer to the Huffington Post or Thinkprogress before he can formulate an opinion.  :laugh:

Haven't you learned that getting outraged over nothing isn't good for your mental health?



The hilarious thing is you don't even disagree with my statement!


There is no "outrage" in this. Pointing out that you are a weak intellectual tit is old hat and just a matter of course.



BTW, I didn't disagree or agree with your statement because I don't have hard numbers to make a determination. I'm just NOT going make a stand for or against, based on a phrase like "the vast majority". No one with half a brain would.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


Someone else jacked your account and wrote the above, I guess.  :001_rolleyes:



Fucking weasel.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 17, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: "Renee"BTW, I didn't disagree or agree with your statement

 :laugh:
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 02:53:56 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"BTW, I didn't disagree or agree with your statement

 :laugh:


The only thing funny here is you once again white knighting an issue which is predominantly a woman's problem. If you want to be one of the girls so badly; check with Caitlyn Jenner. He/she can probably point you in the right direction.  :laugh:
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"I think the point is you have nothing to qualify a statement like "the vast majority of women who claim they have been sexually assaulted are telling the truth".  Adding such quantifiers that lack real substance weaken your argument.

I never wrote those words. Why are you trying to claim I wrote those words?



Much ado about nothing.


Quote from: "cc la femme"Maybe because men who seek  wealth and a positions of power tend to be pricks by nature

So, where is all the faux outrage over cc's lack of real numbers and quantifiers?



And you don't disagree with the statement I actually did make either.



A couple of nitpicking hens. :laugh:

Hey man.  I was just trying to help you out with your fail argument making.  I don't actually give a fuck if you take my sound advice or not.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


Someone else jacked your account and wrote the above, I guess.  :001_rolleyes:



Fucking weasel.

I rearranged it so he didn't realize that's what he said.  Haha
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 03:04:49 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


Someone else jacked your account and wrote the above, I guess.  :001_rolleyes:



Fucking weasel.

I rearranged it so he didn't realize that's what he said.  Haha


Very sneaky.  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Romero on August 17, 2015, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: "Renee"The only thing funny here is you once again white knighting an issue which is predominantly a woman's problem.

Hmm. This statement has no real numbers or quantifiers.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: RW on August 17, 2015, 03:16:59 PM
Renee, while you were gone, Romero went all Joe on us.



I'll show my work:



1 Romero + 1 Frank = 2 Joes
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Renee on August 17, 2015, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: "RW"Renee, while you were gone, Romero went all Joe on us.


I think that happened long before I went away. He has never been one to use facts correctly and has always preferred to be disingenuous in his debate tactics, especially when cornered.



He is a nothing but a tendentious twat.
Title: Re: OMG. My Mate's Cousin's Hubby Sued for Pan Am Sexual Harassment
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Frank"There quite are number of cases of sexual harassment, sexual predation or domestic violence which are later dis-proven, or found that the accuser simply wasn't telling the truth.

There are many, many more times where it is true.



Don't let a couple of examples have you believe most women are lying. The vast majority are not.


I love that phrase; "the vast majority"  :laugh3: It's nice and nebulous and to the lesser intellect, seems to be unassailable.



 It so conveniently frees you from providing real numbers and allows opinion to play the part of fact.  ac_biggrin

Wow, is that ever lame. I don't see you providing numbers for every single thing you say.



If you want to believe that the vast majority of women are lying, go right ahead. But don't forget to provide the real numbers!  :laugh:


"Lame"? Let's be serious for a moment; whats "lame" is when someone uses a phrase like "the vast majority" to try and support their opinion. It means you really have no idea what your talking about. It's a "poke and hope" phrase used by uniformed dolts who should probably just keep quite.



But to be fair, it's not as "lame" as being a grown "man" who needs to refer to the Huffington Post or Thinkprogress before he can formulate an opinion.  :laugh:

Romero is a grown man? ac_wot