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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: RW on August 22, 2015, 02:00:45 PM

Title: Black Gold
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 02:00:45 PM
Why don't oil producing countries like Canada say F U to Middle Eastern oil and use our own supplies until things balance out?
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Frood on August 22, 2015, 02:53:21 PM
The West wants to use up other peoples supply first. They're hoarding.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 04:27:14 PM
What happened to my masterful and thorough post supporting the OP in detail right after RW's opener?



OK, so how did you steal it Dinky?



Anyhow, it ended with - Shen, is the total oil capacity of N America enough for self-sufficiency - providing we did not sell any overseas ? Right now  N America does both sell and buy
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:31:15 PM
That is weird cc.  I did read it.



Checking logs now...
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 04:33:57 PM
I thank you!!



Could have sworn it posted OK, but maybe my memory of seeing it posted is wrong and I goofed up



It wasn't quite as brilliant as I billed it to be anyhow  ac_smile



I'll get back to doing it again later - but in essence I'm a believer in NOT buying anything that gives terror supporting countries a dime
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:48:31 PM
I saw the post but there's no record of it being deleted on the mod end so I'll give it a better look from my desk.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 05:31:45 PM
OK Thanks!!



So it wasn't my imagination after all .. whew



If not there, no biggy, stuff happens
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 03:20:41 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"OK Thanks!!



So it wasn't my imagination after all .. whew



If not there, no biggy, stuff happens


Don't listen to RW, CC. It was me who did it. I super hacked my way into TBC with a Casio calculator and Bill Murray's proton pack but I'll duck, weave, and deflect if anyone accuses me of it.  :roll:
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: cc on August 23, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
We KNEW it!!. all along



We were just playing dumb (now, there's a setup), until your wanting to take credit got the best of you



 ac_smile
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"What happened to my masterful and thorough post supporting the OP in detail right after RW's opener?



OK, so how did you steal it Dinky?



Anyhow, it ended with - Shen, is the total oil capacity of N America enough for self-sufficiency - providing we did not sell any overseas ? Right now  N America does both sell and buy

Absolutely. It makes me sick that some people in this country would rather see Eastern refineries import oil from places like North Africa than refine Alberta/Saskatchewan crude.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"The West wants to use up other peoples supply first. They're hoarding.

I know that $400 million/year Greenpeace corporation would prefer oil from countries where birds wouldn't lay eggs than from Canada.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 02:27:13 PM
So what's stopping us from pulling Alberta out of this slump and using our own product?
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: "RW"So what's stopping us from pulling Alberta out of this slump and using our own product?


Greenie rhetoric and governments prepared to go along with it so as to use up everyone else's easy product first and when the pumps eventually run dry, world dominance.



Why eat the treats out of your own pantry when your poorer neighbors are willing to use up theirs and feed you instead? So you feast until your neighbors run out then cut them loose when they've got nothing to offer.



The West is mostly sitting on their petroleum prospects and I believe they will for many more decades to come.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: "RW"So what's stopping us from pulling Alberta out of this slump and using our own product?

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Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"So what's stopping us from pulling Alberta out of this slump and using our own product?


Greenie rhetoric and governments prepared to go along with it so as to use up everyone else's easy product first and when the pumps eventually run dry, world dominance.



Why eat the treats out of your own pantry when your poorer neighbors are willing to use up theirs and feed you instead? So you feast until your neighbors run out then cut them loose when they've got nothing to offer.



The West is mostly sitting on their petroleum prospects and I believe they will for many more decades to come.

Quite the opposite in fact. OPEC has no interest is losing market share to Canadian oil. They would prefer we bought it from the likes of Nigeria than use our own.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"So what's stopping us from pulling Alberta out of this slump and using our own product?


Greenie rhetoric and governments prepared to go along with it so as to use up everyone else's easy product first and when the pumps eventually run dry, world dominance.



Why eat the treats out of your own pantry when your poorer neighbors are willing to use up theirs and feed you instead? So you feast until your neighbors run out then cut them loose when they've got nothing to offer.



The West is mostly sitting on their petroleum prospects and I believe they will for many more decades to come.

Quite the opposite in fact. OPEC has no interest is losing market share to Canadian oil. They would prefer we bought it from the likes of Nigeria than use our own.


OPEC doesn't care. The Saudis won't reduce output because it messes with Iran's reentry and by default helps Western plans to deliver further economic blows to Russia and non-OPEC oil nations in the crosshairs. It's the soft portion of the coming world war. NATO positioning attempts along Russia's borders, Western media rhetoric, and China's artificial islands underpin this, but that's an entirely different discussion we can leave for later if you like.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
OPEC doesn't care. The Saudis won't reduce output because it messes with Iran's reentry and by default helps Western plans to deliver further economic blows to Russia and non-OPEC oil nations in the crosshairs. It's the soft portion of the coming world war. NATO positioning attempts along Russia's borders, Western media rhetoric, and China's artificial islands underpin this, but that's an entirely different discussion we can leave for later if you like.

OPEC doesn't care about competition?? Are your for real?



Canada has the world's third largest proven reserves and we are one of only a few countries that can continue to ratchet up production over the long term according to the IEA.



Saudis' Real Target May Be Canadian Oil Sands

http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2015/07/17/canada-oil-sands/
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
OPEC doesn't care. The Saudis won't reduce output because it messes with Iran's reentry and by default helps Western plans to deliver further economic blows to Russia and non-OPEC oil nations in the crosshairs. It's the soft portion of the coming world war. NATO positioning attempts along Russia's borders, Western media rhetoric, and China's artificial islands underpin this, but that's an entirely different discussion we can leave for later if you like.

OPEC doesn't care about competition?? Are your for real?



Canada has the world's third largest proven reserves and we are one of only a few countries that can continue to ratchet up production over the long term according to the IEA.



Saudis' Real Target May Be Canadian Oil Sands

http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2015/07/17/canada-oil-sands/


OPEC but particularly the Saudis don't care about the short to medium term. They can afford to suppress prices and bleed Iran, Russia, and other targets in central America and along Asia. Like I said, they're part of the West's soft war, and they'll benefit over the longer term with or without Western ramp ups. It's the game being played currently. It's really quite ingenious to witness but doesn't bode well for the World's populations when established and emerging powers one day physically confront each other instead of playing grab ass.
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
OPEC doesn't care. The Saudis won't reduce output because it messes with Iran's reentry and by default helps Western plans to deliver further economic blows to Russia and non-OPEC oil nations in the crosshairs. It's the soft portion of the coming world war. NATO positioning attempts along Russia's borders, Western media rhetoric, and China's artificial islands underpin this, but that's an entirely different discussion we can leave for later if you like.

OPEC doesn't care about competition?? Are your for real?



Canada has the world's third largest proven reserves and we are one of only a few countries that can continue to ratchet up production over the long term according to the IEA.



Saudis' Real Target May Be Canadian Oil Sands

http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2015/07/17/canada-oil-sands/

Didn't someone in the House of Saud identify oil from Canada as a challenge to that country?
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: cc on August 23, 2015, 08:08:15 PM
It was long ago accepted that Saudi is HEAVILY cash supportive of envo groups and any means possible to thwart Can oil and the Keystone



It suits their purposes, and they use some of their own oil $ to play for keeps - always have
Title: Re: Black Gold
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2015, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"It was long ago accepted that Saudi is HEAVILY cash supportive of envo groups and any means possible to thwart Can oil and the Keystone



It suits their purposes, and they use some of their own oil $ to play for keeps - always have

I have been working in the oil and gas business for 29 years. I have never seen Saudi Arabia become more nervous as they now are since Alberta oilsands became viable.