Title: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
Dear America,
I'm writing to inform you of my feelings towards you. Although you are not my favourite country in the world, I still visit on occasion and can have a relatively good time within your borders. The truth is, you scare me. I'm scared of your size, your people carrying guns, your love of capitalism, your lack of social programming, your healthcare system, your laws and punishments, your media, your police, your foreign policies and interactions. I'm even scared of your border guards.
Now before you go getting all upset at me, you are the one who has made me scared. You have come into my country via your big box stores and media outlets. You've asked my countrymen to join your war crusades and some of them never came home. You've taken my money and put it in your pockets while my people closed their shops. Your crime and misdeeds are on my tv every night.
I don't hate you America, I hate that I'm afraid of you.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
I do like a lot of Americans though. I like you board folks. I like the three beautiful kids who call me Aunty. I love my best friend who is now an American as well.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 22, 2015, 04:04:21 PM
Post by: Frood on August 22, 2015, 04:04:21 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
I'm getting an interesting different idea for tonight, Saturday fetish night
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 22, 2015, 04:26:16 PM
Post by: Frood on August 22, 2015, 04:26:16 PM
OK, Do you like Canadians who do worship flags or play with themselves when they hear their national anthem?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Don't much like those ones either.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:26:37 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:26:37 PM
OK, Do you like Canadians who do worship flags or play with themselves when they hear their national anthem?Quote from: "cc la femme"
I'm getting an interesting different idea for tonight, Saturday fetish nightac_smile
Haha NICE!
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:27:43 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 04:27:43 PM
OK, Do you like Canadians who do worship flags or play with themselves when they hear their national anthem?Quote from: "cc la femme"
Don't much like those ones either.
I can't say I know any Canadians who do that. Well, until tomorrow. Then I'll know one. Haha
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 05:29:16 PM
Post by: cc on August 22, 2015, 05:29:16 PM
OK, Do you like Canadians who do worship flags or play with themselves when they hear their national anthem?Quote from: "cc la femme"
I'm getting an interesting different idea for tonight, Saturday fetish nightac_smile
Haha NICE!
I'm thinking this old avy outfit would make a good "cuff a patriot" outfit
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
And no Azhya, I'm not jealous of the U.S. I don't feel one single ounce of envy towards your country.Quote from: "RW"
I do like a lot of Americans though. I like you board folks. I like the three beautiful kids who call me Aunty. I love my best friend who is now an American as well.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
And no Azhya, I'm not jealous of the U.S. I don't feel one single ounce of envy towards your country.Quote from: "RW"
I do like a lot of Americans though. I like you board folks. I like the three beautiful kids who call me Aunty. I love my best friend who is now an American as well.
:laugh: I never said you were envious but if you find that post where I said that then maybe my memory just fails me sometimes.
I found it in Trump. You were quoting cc.
My apologies.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
OK, Do you like Canadians who do worship flags or play with themselves when they hear their national anthem?Quote from: "cc la femme"
I'm getting an interesting different idea for tonight, Saturday fetish nightac_smile
Haha NICE!
I'm thinking this old avy outfit would make a good "cuff a patriot" outfitac_smile
LOL
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Wulf on August 23, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
Post by: Wulf on August 23, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
[size=50](Shut up Romero!)[/size]
Dear America,
I'm writing to inform you of my feelings towards you. Although you are not my favourite country in the world, I still visit on occasion and can have a relatively good time within your borders. The truth is, you scare me. I'm scared of your size, your people carrying guns, your love of capitalism, your lack of social programming, your healthcare system, your laws and punishments, your media, your police, your foreign policies and interactions. I'm even scared of your border guards.
Now before you go getting all upset at me, you are the one who has made me scared. You have come into my country via your big box stores and media outlets. You've asked my countrymen to join your war crusades and some of them never came home. You've taken my money and put it in your pockets while my people closed their shops. Your crime and misdeeds are on my tv every night.
I don't hate you America, I hate that I'm afraid of you.
Why is this in the flame forum? Are you looking to start a fight over your personal fears?
WTF is that all about?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: J0E on August 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Post by: J0E on August 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
The USA is not a nation, it's an Empire. Even one of its citzens, Martin Sheen readily admitted it.
In fact it is the largest in the history of the world.
A regular nation doesn't house the IMF, the Fed or have the ability to invade and destroy any nation it chooses to.
Empires are not necessarily nice entities.
They step on others, including their own citizens. regularly.
So rememebah...next time you enter what is known as the USA, you are setting foot on an Empire, not a nation, 'kay?
[size=50](Shut up Romero!)[/size]
Dear America,
I'm writing to inform you of my feelings towards you. Although you are not my favourite country in the world, I still visit on occasion and can have a relatively good time within your borders. The truth is, you scare me. I'm scared of your size, your people carrying guns, your love of capitalism, your lack of social programming, your healthcare system, your laws and punishments, your media, your police, your foreign policies and interactions. I'm even scared of your border guards.
Now before you go getting all upset at me, you are the one who has made me scared. You have come into my country via your big box stores and media outlets. You've asked my countrymen to join your war crusades and some of them never came home. You've taken my money and put it in your pockets while my people closed their shops. Your crime and misdeeds are on my tv every night.
I don't hate you America, I hate that I'm afraid of you.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
It's a fighty rant.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 05:13:53 PM
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 05:13:53 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 05:48:35 PM
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 05:48:35 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 06:03:56 PM
Post by: Frood on August 23, 2015, 06:03:56 PM
Imagine opening up a can of fighty rant on someone?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 06:55:03 PM
Post by: RW on August 23, 2015, 06:55:03 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 04:14:00 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 04:14:00 AM
Ewe Ess Ay!!! Ewe Ess Ay!!!
Sadly, its never, ever lived up to its own hype. It claims to embody the finest form of government on the planet.
It doesn't.
It claims to be a global superpower.
It isn't.
It claims to be the greatest country on earth.
It never was.
It is a gilded, painted whore, loved for its wealth and greed above all else. The world feeds from this fatted sow, and millions flock to its shores to indulge in the frenzy for a dollar. It is demonstrated that much of the world's ills can be attributed to capitalism. Whilst communism was never the answer, there is a better way.
But that would require applying the principles the US espouses, but fails to fulfil. Humility. Compassion. Peace. Justice. Fairness.
Instead, it boasts, ignores the wretched, wages war for no reason, employs corruption, and cares for no-one but itself.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: J0E on August 24, 2015, 07:12:18 AM
Post by: J0E on August 24, 2015, 07:12:18 AM
And no Azhya, I'm not jealous of the U.S. I don't feel one single ounce of envy towards your country.Quote from: "RW"
I do like a lot of Americans though. I like you board folks. I like the three beautiful kids who call me Aunty. I love my best friend who is now an American as well.
Actually, one thing I don't like about the United States is that it is the Biggest Jailer in the world.
It throws more people in prison than any other nation.
There are over 2 million people in US prisons and jails.
America houses 25% of the world's female prison population.
It has more women in prison than China, India and Russia combined.
Many large US corporations use prison labor and pay inmates a fraction of what a civilian would get.
This is a very widescale practice and puts downwards pressure on the wages of the non-prison population.
I guess this is what Empires do, though. Historically the Roman Empire had a lot of slaves and prisoners. The Romans used to brand the letter F on the foreheads of their convicts. Everyone guilty, no crime gone unpunished. The sure sign of an Empire - America you are It. Step on your own people.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:18:00 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:18:00 AM
Well, as everyone knows, I am enthusiastically pro-USA!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Ewe Ess Ay!!! Ewe Ess Ay!!!
Sadly, its never, ever lived up to its own hype. It claims to embody the finest form of government on the planet.
It doesn't.
It claims to be a global superpower.
It isn't.
It claims to be the greatest country on earth.
It never was.
It is a gilded, painted whore, loved for its wealth and greed above all else. The world feeds from this fatted sow, and millions flock to its shores to indulge in the frenzy for a dollar. It is demonstrated that much of the world's ills can be attributed to capitalism. Whilst communism was never the answer, there is a better way.
But that would require applying the principles the US espouses, but fails to fulfil. Humility. Compassion. Peace. Justice. Fairness.
Instead, it boasts, ignores the wretched, wages war for no reason, employs corruption, and cares for no-one but itself.
Thanks to Americans, you can post such things through the use of an American-designed computer.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 08:24:36 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 08:24:36 AM
That's another things Americans like to portray; that they invented and designed just about every innovation the world has known.
TV and radio? Nope.
Computer? Nope.
Flying machines? Nope.
Cars? Nope.
Trains? Nope.
Nuclear energy? Nope.
But, they did perfect the methodology of turning all humankinds innovations, ideals, desires and resources into a profit making exercise. Even religion.
In that, they are beyond challenge.
Even then, they didn't invent it.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 24, 2015, 10:45:01 AM
Post by: Frood on August 24, 2015, 10:45:01 AM
This is not only America's problem. The entire world consists of similar nationalistic and narcissistic ethos variants.
The difference is that America currently and marginally retains the title of world's only superpower, and that's what makes its behavior more dangerous (to itself and to the rest of the world).
For the most part, the observations of Alexis de Tocqueville no longer apply to modern America.
To quote a historical fiction movie line: "Magua's heart is twisted. He would make himself into what twisted him." sums modern America, and that's a real shame.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 24, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
Post by: Renee on August 24, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 24, 2015, 10:59:59 AM
Post by: Frood on August 24, 2015, 10:59:59 AM
Let's combine all RW's fears. It's just neater that way.Quote from: "Renee":001_rolleyes: (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036307143_bea54e291b_b.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036%20...%20291b_b.jpg%22%3Ehttps://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036307143_bea54e291b_b.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
Let's combine all RW's fears. It's just neater that way.Quote from: "Renee":001_rolleyes: (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036307143_bea54e291b_b.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036%20...%20291b_b.jpg%22%3Ehttps://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2033/2036307143_bea54e291b_b.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I would tell you I hate you if I wasn't laughing so hard.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 06:56:13 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 06:56:13 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
In the case of the computer, the father of the PC is an Englishman named Charles Babbage.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:23:14 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:23:14 PM
That may be true and credit should indeed be given where credit is due but he is not the founder of Apple and Microsoft.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
He's the Noah of personal computing. I would suggest you turn down being so damn smug when you yourself don't even know the history of the products you are bragging about.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
Then you agree America is simply the builder.
How about you address the specific criticisms levelled at America rather than play the schoolyard ploy of turning your nose up and saying "Don't care what you think"?
Instead of regurgitating American rhetoric and dogma, why not THINK for yourself. Prove people like me wrong!!!
Or are you afraid that you can't, and that you will have to confront the fact that America isn't quite the Utopia you're believing in?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
Then you agree America is simply the builder.
How about you address the specific criticisms levelled at America rather than play the schoolyard ploy of turning your nose up and saying "Don't care what you think"?
Instead of regurgitating American rhetoric and dogma, why not THINK for yourself. Prove people like me wrong!!!
Or are you afraid that you can't, and that you will have to confront the fact that America isn't quite the Utopia you're believing in?
Stupid post. Afraid? Of what exactly? I've been proving you wrong but you are just damn stupid. You twist things around even when you know you're wrong. Stay wrong.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:39:39 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:39:39 PM
Yeah, sure, that's why we're all using Babbage computers, right? Queen of Smug.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I'm not the one being smug Az.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 24, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
Then you agree America is simply the builder.
How about you address the specific criticisms levelled at America rather than play the schoolyard ploy of turning your nose up and saying "Don't care what you think"?
Instead of regurgitating American rhetoric and dogma, why not THINK for yourself. Prove people like me wrong!!!
Or are you afraid that you can't, and that you will have to confront the fact that America isn't quite the Utopia you're believing in?
Stupid post. Afraid? Of what exactly? I've been proving you wrong but you are just damn stupid. You twist things around even when you know you're wrong. Stay wrong.
Please point to any rebuttal you've submitted!!!
Saying I'm wrong, or anti American does NOT prove me wrong.
I cited numerous items that Americans believe were invented by Americans. Prove me wrong.
I've stated that the American military has never fought a war alone. Prove me wrong.
I claim George W Bush is a war criminal. Prove me wrong.
I observed that America picks and chooses when it will intervene in another country based on its own interests. Prove me wrong.
Loyalty is a fine trait. Blind loyalty is a folly.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:45:22 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:45:22 PM
Yeah, sure, that's why we're all using Babbage computers, right? Queen of Smug.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I'm not the one being smug Az.
You can say that but I disagree and you can believe it too but I will still disagree.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:45:51 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:45:51 PM
Oh, that makes all the difference...even though it was built in China!!!Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Nothing can be built without the concept and design first that came from the brilliance of the source. Just like in the biblical story of Noah, he did not build the ark because he was a genius. It came from the concept and design of God who instructed him to build it. He was simply the tool as the builder. The giants conceive it, the worker bees build it.
Then you agree America is simply the builder.
How about you address the specific criticisms levelled at America rather than play the schoolyard ploy of turning your nose up and saying "Don't care what you think"?
Instead of regurgitating American rhetoric and dogma, why not THINK for yourself. Prove people like me wrong!!!
Or are you afraid that you can't, and that you will have to confront the fact that America isn't quite the Utopia you're believing in?
Stupid post. Afraid? Of what exactly? I've been proving you wrong but you are just damn stupid. You twist things around even when you know you're wrong. Stay wrong.
Please point to any rebuttal you've submitted!!!
Saying I'm wrong, or anti American does NOT prove me wrong.
I cited numerous items that Americans believe were invented by Americans. Prove me wrong.
I've stated that the American military has never fought a war alone. Prove me wrong.
I claim George W Bush is a war criminal. Prove me wrong.
I observed that America picks and chooses when it will intervene in another country based on its own interests. Prove me wrong.
Loyalty is a fine trait. Blind loyalty is a folly.
Sorry, I've said what I want to say. I am not playing into these games.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:08:49 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:08:49 PM
Says you. You'll say anything to prove you are right though even when you're not.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I just corrected you. You can verify what I wrote via many sources.
I like my country as well but I'm not prepared to make an ass of myself by over inflating it with incorrect information.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:15:55 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:15:55 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
You're okay too, RW, especially when you don't join Spectre in ganging up against me.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
I wasn't ganging up :P. I just made a point about computers. I am a closet nerd after all.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 25, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
Post by: Renee on August 25, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
Here is some links to some timelines showing inventions pioneered in the US.
I know it is wiki article but it is backed by credible external references.
There is stuff listed there that you never even give a second thought to but we use everyday. Now I'm not saying that the US has cornered the market on inventing shit because we we haven't. But it's hard not to see and admit that we have had more than our share of success at it.
BTW, I don't know if we can take credit for the image below but it certainly looks American enough. Too bad they only come in children's sizes; it would make a great birthday gift for someone here.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 25, 2015, 08:07:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 25, 2015, 08:07:04 PM
"By the 1920s, when amplification made television practical, Scottish inventor John Logie Baird employed the Nipkow disk in his prototype video systems. On 25 March 1925, Baird gave the first public demonstration of televised silhouette images in motion, at Selfridge's Department Store in London.[16] Since human faces had inadequate contrast to show up on his primitive system, he televised a ventriloquist's dummy named "Stooky Bill" talking and moving, whose painted face had higher contrast. By 26 January 1926 he demonstrated the transmission of the image of a face in motion by radio. This is widely regarded as the first television demonstration."
I have never doubted that American engineers, inventors and entrepreneurs have taken established technologies and advanced them further. The computer is a classic example. Perhaps this is because America exists on the premise that developing a commodity that everyone wants, so that the developer can be rich is the core of its economy.
Nothing wrong with that...unless, of course the commodity is not in everyone's best interest.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 26, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
Post by: Renee on August 26, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
Well, I do not wish to imply that you are incorrect, but Wiki has this to say;Quote from: "SPECTRE"
"By the 1920s, when amplification made television practical, Scottish inventor John Logie Baird employed the Nipkow disk in his prototype video systems. On 25 March 1925, Baird gave the first public demonstration of televised silhouette images in motion, at Selfridge's Department Store in London.[16] Since human faces had inadequate contrast to show up on his primitive system, he televised a ventriloquist's dummy named "Stooky Bill" talking and moving, whose painted face had higher contrast. By 26 January 1926 he demonstrated the transmission of the image of a face in motion by radio. This is widely regarded as the first television demonstration."
I have never doubted that American engineers, inventors and entrepreneurs have taken established technologies and advanced them further. The computer is a classic example. Perhaps this is because America exists on the premise that developing a commodity that everyone wants, so that the developer can be rich is the core of its economy.
Nothing wrong with that...unless, of course the commodity is not in everyone's best interest.
Point taken but I think you missed where I wrote the words "All electric TV". Baird's invention was a mechanical TV.
Let's keep the discussion to practical and viable inventions. Let me put it this way; when was the last time you owned or even heard of a mechanical TV?
To put it in perspective, the bicycle and the motorcycle perform the same function but their mode of operation makes them two different machines and credit is given for their designed and creation to two different people. See how that works?
BTW, the motorcycle is an American invention as well but it's not credited as such. Sylvester Howard Roper, a New Hampshire native, designed and built a coal fired, steam driven bicycle in 1867 which was actually the first motorcycle but the gas engine version which is credited as being the
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 26, 2015, 07:47:28 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 26, 2015, 07:47:28 PM
It's obvious that your classically Australian, rabid ant-Americanism clouds most of what you express on any subject regarding the US; warranted or not. Unfortunately and sadly your credibility suffers for it. This is not meant to be a slur against you in any way, it's just a heads up on what many here see as a rather pronounced failing of yours.Quote from: "Renee"ac_dunno
Yes, Renee.
You're right.
I apologise.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Wulf on August 26, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Post by: Wulf on August 26, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
It's obvious that your classically Australian, rabid ant-Americanism clouds most of what you express on any subject regarding the US; warranted or not. Unfortunately and sadly your credibility suffers for it. This is not meant to be a slur against you in any way, it's just a heads up on what many here see as a rather pronounced failing of yours.Quote from: "Renee"ac_dunno
Yes, Renee.
You're right.
I apologise.
:6:
You think she is going to fall for that phoney act of contrition?
Good luck inspector.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 26, 2015, 09:16:11 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 26, 2015, 09:16:11 PM
I am sincere!!!
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 27, 2015, 08:56:04 AM
Post by: Renee on August 27, 2015, 08:56:04 AM
That is so cruel.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
I am sincere!!!
ac_sothere
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 27, 2015, 07:27:59 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 27, 2015, 07:27:59 PM
No confrontation here. I am your humble servant.
Want another muffin?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 28, 2015, 07:35:58 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 28, 2015, 07:35:58 AM
I guess I just remember a different you and I miss her. I'm not used to a bitchier version. Don't get me wrong, I adore you either way.Quote from: "RW"
I wasn't ganging up :P. I just made a point about computers. I am a closet nerd after all.
Don't miss a ghost.
I was quite soft, gentle, tender, shy, and self-conscious before. As the years progressed, I evolved. When you put someone soft, gentle, and tender, in an environment for years where they had to learn to toughen up, that soft exterior will one day harden to adjust to its surroundings. Add to the mix some tough real life lessons and that will indeed harden a person, a defense mechanism. That is normal. Everyone does it. Still, the soft inner self is there but it is guarded now. On rare occasions, the guard may be down.
He's the Noah of personal computing.Quote from: "RW"
Finally, you said Babbage is the Noah of personal computing. Are you sure? (No need to respond.) I was saying that Noah was the tool but the ark was God's idea and concept. I never said the Americans invented computers. My message was that the Americans of Apple and Microsoft further developed the computers, improved it to what we use today and I stand by that statement always. My argument was to Spectre's American-bashing and I was merely pointing out that while he was bashing Americans, he was doing so on a computer that Americans developed and improved. That was the irony I was trying to convey. Last but not least, if you say you were not ganging up then please don't respond further to this because this topic is now closed to me and I would not like to add further to it. Remember, I am an older woman and I am already exhausted by this argument. Thanks and have a good day.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 28, 2015, 09:26:54 AM
Post by: Renee on August 28, 2015, 09:26:54 AM
I am duty bound to make you feel welcome and at home.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No confrontation here. I am your humble servant.
Want another muffin?
"Duty bound"???? Oh I get it, someone has you on a short leash. Would you be so kind as to thank that person for me.
BTW, thanks but no thanks for the muffin. It's not that I don't trust you but it probably has rat poison or some junkie's shared HIV infected needles in it.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 28, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
Post by: RW on August 28, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
I guess I just remember a different you and I miss her. I'm not used to a bitchier version. Don't get me wrong, I adore you either way.Quote from: "RW"
I wasn't ganging up :P. I just made a point about computers. I am a closet nerd after all.
Don't miss a ghost.ac_biggrin
I was quite soft, gentle, tender, shy, and self-conscious before. As the years progressed, I evolved. When you put someone soft, gentle, and tender, in an environment for years where they had to learn to toughen up, that soft exterior will one day harden to adjust to its surroundings. Add to the mix some tough real life lessons and that will indeed harden a person, a defense mechanism. That is normal. Everyone does it. Still, the soft inner self is there but it is guarded now. On rare occasions, the guard may be down.He's the Noah of personal computing.Quote from: "RW"
Finally, you said Babbage is the Noah of personal computing. Are you sure? (No need to respond.) I was saying that Noah was the tool but the ark was God's idea and concept. I never said the Americans invented computers. My message was that the Americans of Apple and Microsoft further developed the computers, improved it to what we use today and I stand by that statement always. My argument was to Spectre's American-bashing and I was merely pointing out that while he was bashing Americans, he was doing so on a computer that Americans developed and improved. That was the irony I was trying to convey. Last but not least, if you say you were not ganging up then please don't respond further to this because this topic is now closed to me and I would not like to add further to it. Remember, I am an older woman and I am already exhausted by this argument. Thanks and have a good day.
I don't remember you being all soft and gentle. I remember you being fun and sexual. You did always have a kind word though.
Babbage is considered the "Father" of the personal computer. I don't know what there is to argue about. Next time, go with the Internet. That's an American invention.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 28, 2015, 09:25:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 28, 2015, 09:25:21 PM
I am duty bound to make you feel welcome and at home.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No confrontation here. I am your humble servant.
Want another muffin?
"Duty bound"???? Oh I get it, someone has you on a short leash. Would you be so kind as to thank that person for me.ac_hithere
BTW, thanks but no thanks for the muffin. It's not that I don't trust you but it probably has rat poison or some junkie's shared HIV infected needles in it.ac_biggrin
No, no...not at all.
I have turned over a new leaf. The error of my ways has been highlighted. I see now that my confrontational demeanour is inappropriate, and shall cease and desist in such conduct.
I am under no coercion or undue influence.
Am I, RW?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: RW on August 28, 2015, 10:35:55 PM
Post by: RW on August 28, 2015, 10:35:55 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 09:04:21 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 09:04:21 AM
I don't remember you being all soft and gentle. I remember you being fun and sexual. You did always have a kind word though.
You don't remember me that way because that was at the very beginning when I was brand new. Just because you don't remember me that way does not mean what I claim to have been like is untrue.
They are not here to support my claim but posters like Bluey, Glasgo, Schmoozer, Watcher, Salty, etc. could attest to my claim but they are from a bygone era now. cc might remember but she and I did not interact much until later also. I considered them my forum pals and I never clashed with them. They never tried to refute anything I said. I enjoyed the forums then when we interacted. I recall that I met you much later, when I was already in memebee. By then, I had already acquired a band of haters who I had begun to clash with so I was no longer as gentle as I was when I was new.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
I have worked in some real armpits of countries. The states is not on that list though. Not even close.Quote from: "Herman"
Thank you for your voice of reason. It is appreciated.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 29, 2015, 11:01:07 AM
Post by: Frood on August 29, 2015, 11:01:07 AM
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Renee on August 29, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
Post by: Renee on August 29, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
I am duty bound to make you feel welcome and at home.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
No confrontation here. I am your humble servant.
Want another muffin?
"Duty bound"???? Oh I get it, someone has you on a short leash. Would you be so kind as to thank that person for me.ac_hithere
BTW, thanks but no thanks for the muffin. It's not that I don't trust you but it probably has rat poison or some junkie's shared HIV infected needles in it.ac_biggrin
No, no...not at all.
I have turned over a new leaf. The error of my ways has been highlighted. I see now that my confrontational demeanour is inappropriate, and shall cease and desist in such conduct.
I am under no coercion or undue influence.
Am I, RW?
Okay, have it your way.
But I can't help but feel that if I let my guard down, you won't hesitate to try to stab me in the eye with an ice pick.
But despite the little voice that is screaming in my head, I will play along.
Would you like a cup of coffee to go with those muffins?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 11:32:25 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 11:32:25 AM
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I work with Americans who don't know where Vancouver is but I also work with the likes who've won the Nobel Prize so they come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and quality.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 29, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
Post by: Frood on August 29, 2015, 11:45:24 AM
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I work with Americans who don't know where Vancouver is but I also work with the likes who've won the Nobel Prize so they come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and quality.:laugh:
I get that though I don't hold my breath for the 1-5 percent.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 03:42:30 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 29, 2015, 03:42:30 PM
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm assuming you mean these folk?
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2015, 07:20:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2015, 07:20:35 PM
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Gosh, you are so judgemental..
Always so quick to look down at everyone..
Maybe you should not leave your house.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Bricktop on August 30, 2015, 02:38:40 AM
Post by: Bricktop on August 30, 2015, 02:38:40 AM
Would you like a cup of coffee to go with those muffins?:coffeebath:
There. You see.
We CAN play nice. And R..er..I mean people said it couldn't happen.
Title: Re: The U.S. is not my favourite place.
Post by: Frood on August 30, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Post by: Frood on August 30, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm assuming you mean these folk?:laugh: (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.theruggedmale.com/dev/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/anigif_enhanced-buzz-31284-1359675119-0_preview.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.theruggedmale.com/dev/wp-con%20...%20review.gif%22%3Ehttp://www.theruggedmale.com/dev/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/anigif_enhanced-buzz-31284-1359675119-0_preview.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Similar although they wore beanies, oversized winter boots, and lots of plaid.
I worked in the States a long time ago. I found the mentality of the locals (where I was) to be completely unreasonable and ignorant. I hope their families are all sterile.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Gosh, you are so judgemental..
Always so quick to look down at everyone..
Maybe you should not leave your house.
If I never left my house, I wouldn't have adequate reasoning to look down on some people.