Issuing marriage licenses in a secular institution like a court house does not conflict with our faith..
If pastors in gospel churches were being forced to perform wedding ceremonies for same sex couple, yes, but that is not the case for Kim Davis..
The church and state are separate, so she cannot force her convictions on a secular government institution..
If she cannot carry out her duties as a civil servant in a job that pays over $100,000 per year, then she should seriously consider getting a new career in a Christian environment or transfer to a different government department that won't force her to violate American law.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-davis-kentucky-county-clerk-still-won-t-authorize-marriage-licences-1.3226886
Clerk Kim Davis returned to work Monday for the first time since being jailed for disobeying a federal judge and said she was faced with a "seemingly impossible choice" between following her conscience and losing her freedom over denying marriage licences to gay couples.
With her voice shaking, she said she decided not to interfere with the marriage licences, but declared they would not be authorized by her and she questioned their validity.
In her first day back in the office after a five-day stint in jail, Davis said she was torn between obeying God and a directive from the judge that "forces me to disobey God." Davis, an Apostolic Christian, believes gay marriage is a sin.
Agreed, she cannot stand on religious convictions and at the same time hold a position in state, federal or municipal government while imposing those convictions on others. it's fucking wrong and I don't give on single shit what "Jeebus" would do in this situation.
And I might add, that even though I disagree with the basis of the extremely broad interpretation that the SCOTUS used to formulate their ruling granting marriage rights to same sex couples, the ruling is now law. Even a conflict with federal law on a state level cannot stop the issuing of licences to same sex couples. Under article VI of the US Constitution the ruling trumps state law.
It is clearly covered under the Supremacy Clause of Article VI of the federal constitution, which says, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."
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And I might add, that even though I disagree with the basis of the extremely broad interpretation that the SCOTUS used to formulate their ruling granting marriage rights to same sex couples, the ruling is now law. Even a conflict with federal law on a state level cannot stop the issuing of licences to same sex couples. Under article VI of the US Constitution the ruling trumps state law.
It is clearly covered under the Supremacy Clause of Article VI of the federal constitution, which says, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."
I am so out of my league Renee..
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I don't have your knowledge of the American constitution Renee..
I am glad we agree..
How could I possibly counter what you have posted.
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And I might add, that even though I disagree with the basis of the extremely broad interpretation that the SCOTUS used to formulate their ruling granting marriage rights to same sex couples, the ruling is now law. Even a conflict with federal law on a state level cannot stop the issuing of licences to same sex couples. Under article VI of the US Constitution the ruling trumps state law.
It is clearly covered under the Supremacy Clause of Article VI of the federal constitution, which says, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."
I am so out of my league Renee..
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I don't have your knowledge of the American constitution Renee..
I am glad we agree..
You don't have to counter me because we agree. :thumbup:
I also want to add there are times when stat law supersedes federal law. In cases where state law grants people more rights than federal law, state law prevails. This is why in states that have legalized medical marijuana, federal law cannot stop the sale or distribution even though marijuana legalization is in violation of federal law.
Why wasn't Kim Davis just fired for failing to do her damn job? Why do people think that their personal feelings (see religious convictions) can be applied to their employment? When I went to work, I left my biases at home and did my damn job.
There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
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If pastors in gospel churches were being forced to perform wedding ceremonies for same sex couple, yes, but that is not the case for Kim Davis..
The church and state are separate, so she cannot force her convictions on a secular government institution..
If she cannot carry out her duties as a civil servant in a job that pays over $100,000 per year, then she should seriously consider getting a new career in a Christian environment or transfer to a different government department that won't force her to violate American law.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-davis-kentucky-county-clerk-still-won-t-authorize-marriage-licences-1.3226886
Clerk Kim Davis returned to work Monday for the first time since being jailed for disobeying a federal judge and said she was faced with a "seemingly impossible choice" between following her conscience and losing her freedom over denying marriage licences to gay couples.
With her voice shaking, she said she decided not to interfere with the marriage licences, but declared they would not be authorized by her and she questioned their validity.
In her first day back in the office after a five-day stint in jail, Davis said she was torn between obeying God and a directive from the judge that "forces me to disobey God." Davis, an Apostolic Christian, believes gay marriage is a sin.
I agree. I feel she should have stepped down.
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
Ah elected. That complicates things. :/
Yeah its a circus.
Why do you guys elect so many people down there?
Because its supposed to keep a tyrannical government at bay. I've given up, to be honest.
That's rather paranoid wouldn't you say?
No...not when you consider American history and our Constitution and thongs that have gone down in the world. I mean at this point, our constitution is compromised anyway....so paranoid? Naw. Futile? Seems so.
We had a shipload of thongs go down in Northern Australia decades ago. Islanders were over the moon for weeks.
A Constitution should be a living and evolving document IMHO.
I just don't understand this need to keep the government in its place.
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In theory, it's the same reason why we elect senators, congressman and presidents. It's avoid having people with political ambitions that are contrary to the Constitution. In the case of KY. if that nutball wasn't elected the state would be stuck with her until she retired or died.
At least in the next election cycle she can be challenged and possibly done away with. I'd much rather have elected officials than civil servants in these kinds of positions. I don't know how it is in Canada but here in the US if you have CS that doesn't do their job properly, it is all but impossible to get rid of them. They can be completely incompetent and because of civil service protection laws it practically takes an act of God to get rid of them.
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I once saw a load of carrots spilled on the highway. They caused the road to flood. No one was excited.
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I just don't understand this need to keep the government in its place.
north Korea is a good example. Just sayin.
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in theory, it's the same reason why we elect senators, congressman and presidents. It's avoid having people with political ambitions that are contrary to the Constitution. In the case of KY. if that nutball wasn't elected the state would be stuck with her until she retired or died.
At least in the next election cycle she can be challenged and possibly done away with. I'd much rather have elected officials than civil servants in these kinds of positions. I don't know how it is in Canada but here in the US if you have CS that doesn't do their job properly, it is all but impossible to get rid of them. They can be completely incompetent and because of civil service protection laws it practically takes an act of God to get rid of them.
Most our civies are hired and union members. It's not impossible to get rid of them but if one refused to say issue a marriage license to a gay couple because of religious beliefs, they would shit can him/her for discrimination. That's a big no no here. That would then be challenged and would probably result in an accommodation if possible. If not, bye bye.
We only vote to elect municipal government (mayors, city counsellors, school trustees, regional district reps) and the equivalent to your Senators and Congressmen. We don't vote directly for our PM unless you live in his/her federal riding.
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I just don't understand this need to keep the government in its place.
north Korea is a good example. Just sayin.
Sorry, I mean I don't understand the US's need to keep the government in its place. We have a similar system to you guys but I don't feel the same level of fear our government is going to step out of line. Different starts I guess.
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I just don't understand this need to keep the government in its place.
north Korea is a good example. Just sayin.
Sorry, I mean I don't understand the US's need to keep the government in its place. We have a similar system to you guys but I don't feel the same level of fear our government is going to step out of line.
That's correct, you don't understand it because the birth of your nation was completely different than ours. It is part of the American psyche to have an inherent distrust of a powerful central government. This Kim Davis issue is sort of a microcosm of why we think the way we do. Americans in general don't really expect the gov to keep a check on itself. Governments main purpose is to perpetuate itself and that is usually done by grabbing onto power. Limiting governments ability to hold onto that power is best done at the voting booth
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I once saw a load of carrots spilled on the highway. They caused the road to flood. No one was excited.
Rabbits and deer?
Actually, Fashionista, the real question you religious folks should as yourselves is, Why has society been divided into Church and State or Religious and Secular, but marriage as an institution is indivisible?
As a secular person, I've asked myself and others that question many times.
The loony left & the adherents of political correctness love to shove these contradictory social standards down our throats, and have even managed to brainwash & bully the religious folks into accepting them.
I believe in separate marital institutions for gay, straight, and whatever comes along.
If society is divisible, then logically it follows, so should the institution of marriage.
Gay is not straight and straight is not gay. They have different relationships and different outcomes.
They are as distinct from one another as secular is from religious.
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If pastors in gospel churches were being forced to perform wedding ceremonies for same sex couple, yes, but that is not the case for Kim Davis..
The church and state are separate, so she cannot force her convictions on a secular government institution..
If she cannot carry out her duties as a civil servant in a job that pays over $100,000 per year, then she should seriously consider getting a new career in a Christian environment or transfer to a different government department that won't force her to violate American law.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-davis-kentucky-county-clerk-still-won-t-authorize-marriage-licences-1.3226886
Clerk Kim Davis returned to work Monday for the first time since being jailed for disobeying a federal judge and said she was faced with a "seemingly impossible choice" between following her conscience and losing her freedom over denying marriage licences to gay couples.
With her voice shaking, she said she decided not to interfere with the marriage licences, but declared they would not be authorized by her and she questioned their validity.
In her first day back in the office after a five-day stint in jail, Davis said she was torn between obeying God and a directive from the judge that "forces me to disobey God." Davis, an Apostolic Christian, believes gay marriage is a sin.
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I just don't understand this need to keep the government in its place.
north Korea is a good example. Just sayin.
Sorry, I mean I don't understand the US's need to keep the government in its place. We have a similar system to you guys but I don't feel the same level of fear our government is going to step out of line.
That's correct, you don't understand it because the birth of your nation was completely different than ours. It is part of the American psyche to have an inherent distrust of a powerful central government. This Kim Davis issue is sort of a microcosm of why we think the way we do. Americans in general don't really expect the gov to keep a check on itself. Governments main purpose is to perpetuate itself and that is usually done by grabbing onto power. Limiting governments ability to hold onto that power is best done at the voting booth
I think that would be better done by limiting party campaign donations.
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I once saw a load of carrots spilled on the highway. They caused the road to flood. No one was excited.
Rabbits and deer?
Nope. They know better than to go on busy roads so they were sad they couldn't have carrots.
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As a secular person, I've asked myself and others that question many times.
The loony left & the adherents of political correctness love to shove these contradictory social standards down our throats, and have even managed to brainwash & bully the religious folks into accepting them.
I believe in separate marital institutions for gay, straight, and whatever comes along.
If society is divisible, then logically it follows, so should the institution of marriage.
Gay is not straight and straight is not gay. They have different relationships and different outcomes.
They are as distinct from one another as secular is from religious.
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If pastors in gospel churches were being forced to perform wedding ceremonies for same sex couple, yes, but that is not the case for Kim Davis..
The church and state are separate, so she cannot force her convictions on a secular government institution..
If she cannot carry out her duties as a civil servant in a job that pays over $100,000 per year, then she should seriously consider getting a new career in a Christian environment or transfer to a different government department that won't force her to violate American law.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-davis-kentucky-county-clerk-still-won-t-authorize-marriage-licences-1.3226886
Clerk Kim Davis returned to work Monday for the first time since being jailed for disobeying a federal judge and said she was faced with a "seemingly impossible choice" between following her conscience and losing her freedom over denying marriage licences to gay couples.
With her voice shaking, she said she decided not to interfere with the marriage licences, but declared they would not be authorized by her and she questioned their validity.
In her first day back in the office after a five-day stint in jail, Davis said she was torn between obeying God and a directive from the judge that "forces me to disobey God." Davis, an Apostolic Christian, believes gay marriage is a sin.
And this person was not in a religious position but rather a state one. In that, she issues marriage licenses to those who can legally marry which is now gays in the U.S.
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Is the US Supreme Court the "loony left"? Governments and courts in the US and Canada have ruled that denying same-sex marriage is unconstitutional and in violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It's not going to be banned again and it's not harming you or anyone else in any way!
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Is the US Supreme Court the "loony left"? Governments and courts in the US and Canada have ruled that denying same-sex marriage is unconstitutional and in violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It's not going to be banned again and it's not harming you or anyone else in any way!
It does harm others.
It has herded more mewling little pro government and or pro religious harpies into registering their personal contracts with a fictitious construct of the human imagination to gain favors, respect, or to avoid repercussions. It's dog tags for free will and the pro gay marriage lot stupidly just put themselves in the pound with the rest.
Good job, Romero. Smart move. :001_rolleyes:
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No it hasn't. How so?
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What the heck does any of that nonsense mean?
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No it hasn't. How so?
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What the heck does any of that nonsense mean?
If you need it drawn out for you, you're not a very bright poof.
It's like you just strung a bunch of random words together. It doesn't mean anything.
Do you have any real-world examples? Any example of harm that has actually happened?
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
... i'm not so sure about that. if she can be thrown in jail she can certainly be terminated from her position. one way to fire her would be by order of the court ...
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Do you have any real-world examples? Any example of harm that has actually happened?
Fine.
I'll rephrase and dumb it down for North American reading comprehension.
"If I have to explain what I previously said to you, you're obviously not one of the more intelligent examples from your sexual orientation."
You're welcome. ac_hithere
What you previously said doesn't make any sense.
So, you can't think of even one example.
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So, you can't think of even one example.
What are you talking about? Use the quote function if you would like to highlight something I said for our further discussion.
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
... i'm not so sure about that. if she can be thrown in jail she can certainly be terminated from her position. one way to fire her would be by order of the court ...
Elected officials cannot, and should not, be fired. They either resign or get impeached. And there are many politicians who should be in jail....she really wasn't one of them. Hence why she was released.
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
... i'm not so sure about that. if she can be thrown in jail she can certainly be terminated from her position. one way to fire her would be by order of the court ...
Elected officials cannot, and should not, be fired. They either resign or get impeached. And there are many politicians who should be in jail....she really wasn't one of them. Hence why she was released.
... is she back on the job?
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
... i'm not so sure about that. if she can be thrown in jail she can certainly be terminated from her position. one way to fire her would be by order of the court ...
Elected officials cannot, and should not, be fired. They either resign or get impeached. And there are many politicians who should be in jail....she really wasn't one of them. Hence why she was released.
... is she back on the job?
I think so. To be honest this got old fast. I'm tired of all the nastiness that goes back and forth on it. Ive noticed people seem totally incapable of having a respectful discussion on issues like this and the country is more divided than ever. So....I'm put off. Lol
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Is the US Supreme Court the "loony left"? Governments and courts in the US and Canada have ruled that denying same-sex marriage is unconstitutional and in violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It's not going to be banned again and it's not harming you or anyone else in any way!
But why is it necessary to make gay and straight marriage one and the same without any distinction made between the two?
Likewise, I could successfully argue that dividing public washrooms into 'Mens' or 'Womens' constitutes an act of discrimination, and that it 'segregates' and 'discriminates' against individuals or groups who have an incessant desire for them to be the same without distinction. I could also say, that I want labels designating gender be torn off the bathroom doors and be replaced with just 'WASHROOM'. And there - they're equal. There's no difference between the Male and Female Gender. It's a 'gender-neutral' society. And we're all EQUAL.
Actually, this scenario is being played out in the US courts right now, with transexuals arguing that they should have unrestricted access to women's washrooms, because they are legally women, even though Militant Lesbian women born with two XX chromosomes have argued against this inclusion.
Sadly we are on our way to exactly that. In schools, none the less.
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Because gays have equal rights and have the right to get married. What distinction needs to be made? I'm pretty sure those who are getting married know if they're gay or straight.
Don't bother comparing marriage to going to the bathroom.
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
You're right. If I fail to comply with labour or environmental rules as the operating company's representative on the lease, I am let go and they will find someone with the qualifications that will obey the rules. With today's low prices for oil and gas, it won't be that difficult.
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There should be no accommodation for this crap. She should be fired. End of story.
She's an elected officail. Can't fire her. She can resign, or be impeached. The issue is in KY, homosexual marriage was not wanted by the people. It voted against everytime....so....she probably won't be impeached. It's a complicated situation I don't think we are going to see the end of. Our government is pretty corrupt.
She's elected?
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I didn't know that Dove..
I assumed she was a civil servant.
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Do you have any real-world examples? Any example of harm that has actually happened?
That's what Dinky Diana does..
Random jibberish, rants that means nothing and proves nothing.
I disagree regarding Dinky. There's usually some smarts buried in all those adjectives.
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Because gays have equal rights and have the right to get married. What distinction needs to be made? I'm pretty sure those who are getting married know if they're gay or straight.
But the latter is currently in the American courts, the subject of many legal cases, as certain factions within the LGBTQ movement, notably transsexuals, are fighting to seek inclusion in women's washrooms..Many women (including radical feminists) want to keep them out, but transsexuals insist that this is discrimination and violates their rights.
And there is the issue you never bother addressing, Romero; which is the frequent and contradictory logic with respect to the issue of gay marriage put forward by gay rights activists.
On one hand, the gays maintain that they are different from heterosexuals, and have yet state that there is no difference between gay and straight marriage. An apple is an orange, and orange is an apple....Get used to folks! But when it's convenient to define the orange and apple as being different, then there's a distinction.
How can something which is different, special and unique also be the same? This is illogical. And yet these groups have managed to convince much of the population that this is a valid construct.
Like hello...The emperor hath no clothes. He's been caught with his pants down like the denizens of gay men who flash their private parts at crowds of young children during Pride Parades.
Also, society can and has been legally defined as being divisible into religious and secular factions. Yet, one of the cornerstones of that society, marriage is indivisible - so don't touch it.
Truthfully, I have yet to reconcile this contradiction, especially the current President of the United States at one time advocated a division of marriage definition - until he 'evolved' and decided that what was best for all of us, is to eliminate such distinctions altogether.
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On one hand, the gays maintain that they are different from heterosexuals, and have yet state that there is no difference between gay and straight marriage. An apple is an orange, and orange is an apple....Get used to folks! But when it's convenient to define the orange and apple as being different, then there's a distinction.
There is no contradiction. Gays have equal rights and the right to get married.
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Take your time. The courts have already ruled and there's nothing you can do about it but whine.
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I think so. To be honest this got old fast. I'm tired of all the nastiness that goes back and forth on it. Ive noticed people seem totally incapable of having a respectful discussion on issues like this and the country is more divided than ever. So....I'm put off. Lol
... yes you're right. i googled this story and see that she has returned to work and still doesn't have to issue the licenses if she doesn't want to ...
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Do you have any real-world examples? Any example of harm that has actually happened?
That's what Dinky Diana does..
Random jibberish, rants that means nothing and proves nothing.
A jesus juice junkie AND English language challenged. ac_biggrin
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Do you have any real-world examples? Any example of harm that has actually happened?
That's what Dinky Diana does..
Random jibberish, rants that means nothing and proves nothing.
A jesus juice junkie AND English language challenged. ac_biggrin
That was a stretch DD.
Maybe.
It could be an intellect issue and not language.
It's not.
Then it must be JJ she's weezing on.
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Or your post was hard to gr0k which is the fault of the writer for a failure to communicate.
I didn't realize it was my duty to invoke the bell curve.
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It's not but I assure you it's you, not them on this one.
Incorrect.
Your oratory prowess is questionable at best.
On this occasion it was particularly misconstructed and incoherent.
Incorrect as well.
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On this occasion it was particularly misconstructed and incoherent.
If I was still in the flame/troll game....he/she provides so much material it's like Christmas morning. You can tell when DD is drinking.
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On this occasion it was particularly misconstructed and incoherent.
If I was still in the flame/troll game....he/she provides so much material it's like Christmas morning. You can tell when DD is drinking.
Incorrect and laughable.
Yeah, that's right cupcake.
Everyone is wrong but you.
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On this occasion it was particularly misconstructed and incoherent.
If I was still in the flame/troll game....he/she provides so much material it's like Christmas morning. You can tell when DD is drinking.
Incorrect and laughable.
Nonsensical and unsolicted. Clap when you say it.
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On this occasion it was particularly misconstructed and incoherent.
If I was still in the flame/troll game....he/she provides so much material it's like Christmas morning. You can tell when DD is drinking.
Incorrect and laughable.
Nonsensical and unsolicted. Clap when you say it.
ac_smile
It's fun to watch you make an ass of yourself when you're not off worshiping a figment of your twisted imagination, Dove.
Then you need to get out more
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
Every time she walks past the refrigerator she pulls off all the magnets.
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
I see what you did there lol
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
Every time she walks past the refrigerator she pulls off all the magnets.
It's better than pulling the door open and pulling out all the snacks and leftovers. ac_hithere
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
I see what you did there lol
Testify, Dove.
Testify. ac_biggrin
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Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
Every time she walks past the refrigerator she pulls off all the magnets.
It's better than pulling the door open and pulling out all the snacks and leftovers. ac_hithere
Hey, sometimes you have to clean out the frig. Leftovers don't last forever unlike those mudflaps you got going there. ac_biggrin
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Quote from: "Dove"
Maybe the rings on her labia are holding her down? ac_dunno
Every time she walks past the refrigerator she pulls off all the magnets.
It's better than pulling the door open and pulling out all the snacks and leftovers. ac_hithere
Hey, sometimes you have to clean out the frig. Leftovers don't last forever unlike those mudflaps you got going there. ac_biggrin
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You're good fun, Renee. Don't ever change. :001_tongue:
I'm starting to wonder if Dinky is German.
Nein