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Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Vancouver on December 02, 2012, 03:44:46 PM
So good. Best soup. No ban. It is God's food.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"So good. Best soup. No ban. It is God's food.

I don't think sharks would see it that way.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Leopardsocks on December 02, 2012, 07:31:40 PM
We have a similar problem here. Local councils trying to play lawmakers, instead of doing their job.



In our case, though, its often because the assholes we vote in at State and Federal Government aren't doing theirs.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: EU on December 03, 2012, 12:43:39 AM
I have no problem with people eating animals but at least have the moral fiber to see eating less than .001 per cent of the usable meat from the animal because it symbolizes prestige and wealth and apparently superstitiously in the minds of many, it gets a limp dck hard...that is morally wrong (eat the fin, throw away the good meat, I mean WTF) , that ideology is out dated and that level of wastefulness has no place in a modern society.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Vancouver on December 03, 2012, 01:25:54 AM
We already throw away cow heads. At least the Chinese eat chicken feet. Pig liver and chicken testicles are food. Chinese eat them. Over here we waste more food. We throw away broccoli leaves. Broccoli leaves are edible and very healthy, just like broccoli itself.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Leopardsocks on December 03, 2012, 02:40:02 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"We have a similar problem here. Local councils trying to play lawmakers, instead of doing their job.



In our case, though, its often because the assholes we vote in at State and Federal Government aren't doing theirs.

I don't want provincial or federal governments telling me what they think is moral to eat.


Nor I.



But I don't want people killing animals without reason or necessity. I'd rather you go without shark fin soup than see a shark slaughtered for its fin alone. However, I'm not sure that is what happens. Sharks are fished here in Australia for food. I guess the fins go to China.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Obvious Li on December 03, 2012, 03:22:10 AM
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"We have a similar problem here. Local councils trying to play lawmakers, instead of doing their job.



In our case, though, its often because the assholes we vote in at State and Federal Government aren't doing theirs.

I don't want provincial or federal governments telling me what they think is moral to eat.


Nor I.



But I don't want people killing animals without reason or necessity. I'd rather you go without shark fin soup than see a shark slaughtered for its fin alone. However, I'm not sure that is what happens. Sharks are fished here in Australia for food. I guess the fins go to China.




from what i read the sharks are caught, the fins cut off and the (still living) shark kicked over the side.....that is not cool and should be verboten........the fact that it is allowed to happen at all is astounding
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2012, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"We already throw away cow heads. At least the Chinese eat chicken feet. Pig liver and chicken testicles are food. Chinese eat them. Over here we waste more food. We throw away broccoli leaves. Broccoli leaves are edible and very healthy, just like broccoli itself.

I agree with you VancouverGuy, this a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Who the f*ck are white lefties to talk about waste? The only reason a ban was even proposed by meddling leftist city councils is because it offends white assholes.




Here is a picture of the offended white leftist that wants to ban shark fins in Vancouver.



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Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Leopardsocks on December 03, 2012, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Leopardsocks"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I don't want provincial or federal governments telling me what they think is moral to eat.


Nor I.



But I don't want people killing animals without reason or necessity. I'd rather you go without shark fin soup than see a shark slaughtered for its fin alone. However, I'm not sure that is what happens. Sharks are fished here in Australia for food. I guess the fins go to China.




from what i read the sharks are caught, the fins cut off and the (still living) shark kicked over the side.....that is not cool and should be verboten........the fact that it is allowed to happen at all is astounding


Agreed. That is thoughtless, cruel bullshit.



Sorry kids...no soup for you....
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
TBH there's lots of problem with animal slaughtering around the world, but shark finning is kind of cruel to just cut off the fin and dump it back into the ocean for it to bleed to death or struggle to survive.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Zetsu"TBH there's lots of problem with animal slaughtering around the world, but shark finning is kind of cruel to just cut off the fin and dump it back into the ocean for it to bleed to death or struggle to survive.

In a proper harvest, endangered species are not hunted and the carcass is used. Personally, I could care less if I ever had another serving of it. I agree with you, it is overrated. However, the idea of lefty city councils dictating what adults may eat is far worse IMHO.


It's true there's more important things to deal with, but just saying they could still improve their hunting methods with sharks, I'm sure there could be some use for the rest of the body.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Vancouver on December 03, 2012, 07:54:51 PM
What about people who hunt bears. It's not like anyone eat bear meat. They just want their skin and paws and dump the rest.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2012, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
In a proper harvest, endangered species are not hunted and the carcass is used. Personally, I could care less if I ever had another serving of it. I agree with you, it is overrated. However, the idea of lefty city councils dictating what adults may eat is far worse IMHO.


It's true there's more important things to deal with, but just saying they could still improve their hunting methods with sharks, I'm sure there could be some use for the rest of the body.

Sharks are harvested for more than just their fins.



Supplements / alternative medicine

(Shark cartilage & liver oil)

Shark Cartilage pills

Shark Cartilage powder

Energy drinks & supplements

Shark liver oil pills

Manta gill rakers

Cosmetics

Squalene/Squalane (Shark Liver Oil)

Lotions, Deodorants

 Sunscreen

 Medicinal creams

 Vaccines Lip balms, lipstick Face cream Cosmetics

Steaks / fillets (shark & ray) Shark Meat

Fish & Chips

Thresher, Mako Steaks

Rock salmon

White fish fillets

Skin/Leather (also known as Shagreen)

Wallets, Purses

Shoes

Furniture

Other Leather Products

Shark Souvenirs (Teeth, Jaws, Skin)

Jewelry (if it isn't a fossil, don't buy it.)

Pet products Food Chews Supplements

Imitation crab, lobster, shrimp Surimi often includes shark


It's nice there's still a lot of use for sharks, I'm just against the people that only take the fin.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2012, 07:57:35 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"What about people who hunt bears. It's not like anyone eat bear meat. They just want their skin and paws and dump the rest.


You do have a good point, I just see it the same as shark fin hunting.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: EU on December 04, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy" Broccoli leaves are edible and very healthy, just like broccoli itself.




Ya their called collards...white folk got the top of the plant and the slaves got the collards and ground up husks of corn after the kernels were removed...listen this is not the only thing illegal to eat in Canada...go out in a boat, get some abalone, transport it in your car and then admit it to the DFO...lose your car and boat for a while to be sure and a frickin hefty fine...Bear paws...nope can't legally chow down on those either unless you got the guts to go out there yourself...but I'd advise some shooting tips with Sonny before the hunt, that way when the bear paw hunter steps out of a Lexus to hunt bear, maybe he won't just wound the bear and make him really fckin mad. Nothing worse than a wounded bear.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Vancouver on December 04, 2012, 09:13:58 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Levant sure nails the lefty councils across Canada that are jumping on the anti-shark fin bandwagon.
QuoteLast Friday , Justice James Spence of the Ontario Superior Court struck down Toronto's Chinese head tax as illegal.

 

Of course, Toronto didn't call it a Chinese head tax. They called it a ban on shark fin soup, a delicacy eaten pretty much only by Chinese people. So, same thing.

 

Banning shark fin soup is the latest rage amongst left-wing city councillors across Canada.

 
When a city decides to ban shark fin soup, it's a good bet it's trying to distract from its failures on things it's supposed to be working on.

 

Take Calgary, where city hall just voted to increase city taxes by 5.5%. Banning shark fin soup is a cheap stunt to distract attention from the financial incompetence of a city council that can't balance the books in Canada's richest city.



This sort of self-righteousness by minor-league politicians isn't new.

 

In the 1980s, declaring a town a "nuclear-weapons free zone" was all the rage.

Shark fins are the modern version, but instead of scapegoating those evil Americans, it targets Chinese-Canadians, especially new immigrants who still keep their traditional culinary customs.

 

Toronto's disgraceful version of the law sets out fines as high as $100,000 for people caught selling shark fins — or even just possessing them. So the restaurant would be put out of business.

 

Many cultures have unusual food, but only the Chinese have been targeted through this bigoted law.

 

Jews have their kosher slaughter and Muslims have their halal. Like all slaughters, they're not pretty to watch.

 

But no city council in Canada would dare take on those two politically protected ethnic groups.

 

You don't have to get that exotic, of course. Some of the same people backing the shark fin bans are behind PETA, the animal rights extremist group that not only wants to ban meat, fur and leather, but even milk and eggs.

 

Shark fins are their precedent, from which they'll ratchet up other bans. Do you really want to let showboating politicians consider whether you can eat veal parmigiana?

 

Horse meat is a delicacy in Quebec. Rabbit and deer meat is very chic. And, of course, some cultures eat dog.

 

Why are those exotic foods OK, but only a Chinese cuisine is banned — with a fine designed to destroy a family's life savings?

 

It's not because sharks are endangered. They're not. It's not because finning a shark — the practice of cutting off a shark's fin while it's alive — is cruel.

 

Canada has a modern shark harvesting industry, monitored by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans to ensure conservation.

 

By comparison, we boil lobsters alive in the classiest restaurants in Canada. But that's not even the point.

 

These busybody laws don't discriminate between shark fins harvested humanely and those cut off the fish alive. It's all banned.

 

Sorry, that's not about being humane. That's about being punitive.

 

Justice Spence threw out Toronto's law, pointing out that it just wasn't Toronto's city business, it wasn't based on any scientific evidence and the justification — Toronto's health and safety — was a laugh.

 

Those are all good reasons, and his ruling should be a template for other anti-racism activists across Canada to follow.

 

The Chinese were picked because traditionally they don't make a political fuss. But anyone else who wants the freedom to choose what they eat or drink ought to stand with them. Your food is next — and your leather and fur too.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/03/food-for-thought-judges-shark-fin-ruling-a-template-for-other-anti-racism-activists-to-follow

Vey thoughtful article and statements. Unfortunately many refuse to know or see truth and make judgements based on their Potato and cheeseburger head.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: EU on December 04, 2012, 10:16:14 PM
Comparing it to a head tax...ya real thoughtful but as the article states Canada does harvests Shark humanely, it's the rest of the world that is hard to monitor...there have also been other bans and moratoriums on harvesting other sea food in the US and Canada get over it. If this is such a big issue, in a democratic world you would look to change the law through a change in Government...is it that the majority are ok with this decision? It would seem so.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2012, 10:18:43 PM
If shark fin soup is on the menu I will not be attending.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Leopardsocks on December 04, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
We barbecue shark fillets here. They are very popular, but for some reason are called "flake".



Shark flesh has no bones. Unfortunately, because shark is the apex predator of the ocean, the heavy metals that WE pump into the sea eventually concentrates at the top of the food chain, and shark is thus very high in mercury levels.//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: EU on December 05, 2012, 12:32:01 AM
I had shark steaks...better than sole, but sharks gotta be skinned right away or it taints the meat, opposite of fish, slimy and tough to hang onto, sharks are covered in sandpaper, or so it seems.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Vancouver on December 05, 2012, 12:54:13 AM
I had frogs before.
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2012, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"I had frogs before.

Did you like the taste VancouverGuy?
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: EU on December 05, 2012, 12:00:19 PM
Anything with the right sauce...tastes like chicken. ;)
Title: Re: Ontario Judge Overturns Shark Fin Ban In Toronto
Post by: Anonymous on December 05, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
I've tried dog meat.