"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to say, this is one of the best definitions of a term I have seen to date.
1. Noam Chomsky says that the prevalence of PC is exaggerated:
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Dismissing campus speech codes and political correctness as "an exaggeration" and "a marginal phenomenon," Chomsky claims that state and corporate control over speech is a much more prevalent and dangerous phenomenon -- citing his own career as an example.
//http://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_clashes_with_noam_chomsky_on_freedom_of_speech_in_america
2. I looked for an essay by Chomsky, I read one years ago, in which he describes how PC doesn't really exist but its presence is exaggerated by media as distraction to real problems. This is not Chomsky, but a similar point of view:
"The Propaganda Function of Political Correctness" by Phil Dickens, 2009:
//https://propertyistheft.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-propaganda-function-of-political-correctness/
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My intention is to show that PC, as described by its opponents, does not exist. It is a myth conjured up by the reactionary right. But more importantly, I wish to show that the imaginary malaise of "PC gone mad" is actually just another form of right-wing flak, serving a very specific propaganda function.
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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to say, this is one of the best definitions of a term I have seen to date.
Political correctness is for retards, ain't it?
How did you know?!
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So Ro, which exactly is the clean end of a piece of shit? I'm dying to know.
I wouldn't know. Ask cc, the forum pc police. :)
But she's not the one holding the PC poopie bag.
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1. Noam Chomsky says that the prevalence of PC is exaggerated:
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Dismissing campus speech codes and political correctness as "an exaggeration" and "a marginal phenomenon," Chomsky claims that state and corporate control over speech is a much more prevalent and dangerous phenomenon -- citing his own career as an example.
//http://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_clashes_with_noam_chomsky_on_freedom_of_speech_in_america
2. I looked for an essay by Chomsky, I read one years ago, in which he describes how PC doesn't really exist but its presence is exaggerated by media as distraction to real problems. This is not Chomsky, but a similar point of view:
"The Propaganda Function of Political Correctness" by Phil Dickens, 2009:
//https://propertyistheft.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/the-propaganda-function-of-political-correctness/
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My intention is to show that PC, as described by its opponents, does not exist. It is a myth conjured up by the reactionary right. But more importantly, I wish to show that the imaginary malaise of "PC gone mad" is actually just another form of right-wing flak, serving a very specific propaganda function.
I once found a letter from Noam Chomsky to my dad in his pile of papers. I thought it was pretty trippy.
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I once found a letter from Noam Chomsky to my dad in his pile of papers. I thought it was pretty trippy.
ac_smile
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But she's not the one holding the PC poopie bag.
You're holding it for her!
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I just noticed this section.
I want to throw this out for thought
Use of the word "retard" (and other comparable words) stops me cold every time I see or hear it / them, always has, always will. To me it misuses a dreadful conditions that are not the fault of people who have the condition
Seems to me not right to use it. That's me, may not be others
I'm very sensitive on use of ANY words that in effect make fun of ANY condition that is not voluntary
From a practical perspective, it does not do justice to what has become a truly admirable forum / site
My 2 bits worth
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Point taken. Let's update it slightly :)
She wasn't the only one who took issue with it. You realise that right?
And one example doesn't negate your boat load.
:)
What boat load?
Why are Odi and Mel not allowed on the main forum?
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What boat load?
Why are Odi and Mel not allowed on the main forum?
Come on Ro. Don't play dumb.
Odi and Mel are up in RR because they are distruptive trolls and we actually moderate that type of thing here.
Got a problem with that?
Nope! I just wanted to point out another example of your political correctness.
Funny how the people who complain the most about political correctness are the most politically correct of all!
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What boat load?
Why are Odi and Mel not allowed on the main forum?
Come on Ro. Don't play dumb.
Odi and Mel are up in RR because they are distruptive trolls and we actually moderate that type of thing here.
Got a problem with that?
Only a few weeks ago, Romero was a mod, no?
Why ask a question he should already know the answer to?
Trolling, Romero??
Moderating assholes is being PC?
BUAHAHAHAHA!
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What boat load?
Why are Odi and Mel not allowed on the main forum?
Come on Ro. Don't play dumb.
Odi and Mel are up in RR because they are distruptive trolls and we actually moderate that type of thing here.
Got a problem with that?
Only a few weeks ago, Romero was a mod, no?
Why ask a question he should already know the answer to?
Trolling, Romero??
He doesn't like us pointing out the obvious.
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What boat load?
Why are Odi and Mel not allowed on the main forum?
You know better than anyone why their up in RR Romero what the hell!!!
Personally, I do not subscribe to, and reject completely, the concept of "political correctness".
I agree with some of the sentiments above, that "PC" is actually a self imposed myth, in part imposed by ideological zealots of the left, including racial minorities, gays, feminists and multi-cultis.
That does not mean, however, that I believe it is permissible to speak in an insulting or deliberately offensive manner. I do not support the view that it is OK to call muslims going about their daily business "sand niggers", or "terrorists". However, I DO believe that declaring islam an anti-western, dangerous and deceitful religion is perfectly acceptable, regardless of who is offended.
It is wrong to offend ONE person. It is NOT wrong to offend a nationality, religion, culture or group.
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Moderating assholes is being PC?
BUAHAHAHAHA!
There's also the "Fire Walkers" sub-forum, where free speech gets sent to its room!
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Nope! I just wanted to point out another example of your political correctness.
Funny how the people who complain the most about political correctness are the most politically correct of all!
I wonder why Romero loves political correctness so much?
Does it validate his existence?
What political correctness?
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Moderating assholes is being PC?
BUAHAHAHAHA!
There's also the "Fire Walkers" sub-forum, where free speech gets sent to its room!
It's where flamers can have their moments. Do you have a problem with that?
You realise free speech isn't the same as political correctness eh?
Seems not ^^
Seems Querky doesn't know the difference between PC, genuine human decency and deliberate stupidity
WTF is this "Noam says"??? I spit my coffee on that one
Isn't Chomsky a poster boy for the leftards?
I don't do political correctness very well. Twenty nine years in the oilpatch means pc didn't stand a chance with me.
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Moderating assholes is being PC?
BUAHAHAHAHA!
There's also the "Fire Walkers" sub-forum, where free speech gets sent to its room!
It's where flamers can have their moments. Do you have a problem with that?
You realise free speech isn't the same as political correctness eh?
They are different RW..
I try to be politically correct in that I a try to be careful not to offend anyone deliberately..
The people in RR disrupt and derail free speech with thread bombing.
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I don't do political correctness very well. Twenty nine years in the oilpatch means pc didn't stand a chance with me.
I don't care if you don't Herman..
Please keep doing what you do so well here.
ac_smile
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Seems not ^^
Seems Querky doesn't know the difference between PC, genuine human decency and deliberate stupidity
WTF is this "Noam says"??? I spit my coffee on that one
Of course you would claim your political correctness isn't political correctness!
But it is. The definition of political correctness is being so easily offended over one measly word. Even if you're so easily offended by some measly word because of... hmm... personal reasons, perhaps?
I actually do have a problem with the word "retard". I understand how it became a derogatory word towards the mentally handicapped (or whatever the PC term is these days) so we were told to stop using it to describe the mentally handicapped. Fine. So now we use it as an insult towards those who are not mentally handicapped as we morphed the word to mean, but we aren't allowed to do that either. :2r4ml1j_th:
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Seems not ^^
Seems Querky doesn't know the difference between PC, genuine human decency and deliberate stupidity
WTF is this "Noam says"??? I spit my coffee on that one
Noam says hi CC! Hi sweety - here's my latest pic (talking to David Barsamian) xxxooo:

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Seems not ^^
Seems Querky doesn't know the difference between PC, genuine human decency and deliberate stupidity
WTF is this "Noam says"??? I spit my coffee on that one
Of course you would claim your political correctness isn't political correctness!
But it is. The definition of political correctness is being so easily offended over one measly word. Even if you're so easily offended by some measly word because of... hmm... personal reasons, perhaps?
"Political"? WTF?
You really don't get the NOT subtle difference between "political correctness" and simple "human decency / respect".
WTF does ""Political" have to do with a totally apolitical issue?
I'm truly amazed you would even "try" to put 2 virtual opposites together as though they were one,
then my greatest failing has always been to give humans more credit than they deserve
Please tell us you are just joshin us!!
I do know what he represents so I'm still laffin @ Noam as a purported meaningfull reference for ANYTHING
You have to be kidding about Chomsky cc. Not liking the views of someone is one thing. To render them completely meaningless in the face of a lifetime of societal contribution is another.
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Donald Trump demands apology and fines for "foul language"
The war of words between Donald Trump and Fox News reached new levels on Wednesday when one of the network's talking heads said the Republican presidential frontrunner had been figuratively castrated by Carly Fiorina in last week's debate.
"Let's be honest: Carly cut his balls off with the precision of a surgeon, and he knows it," National Review editor and Fox News contributor Rich Lowry told "The Kelly File" host Megyn Kelly.
Trump quickly took to Twitter to call on the FCC to fine Lowry over the "balls" remark:
Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!
Fox News, however, is not a broadcast network but a cable channel, and thus is not subject to the agency's rules on obscenity, profanity and indecency.
Trump is also demanding an apology:
@FoxNews owes me an apology for allowing clueless pundit @RichLowry to use such foul language on TV. Unheard of!
//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rich-lowry-testicles_560373f9e4b08820d91ba609
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That is pretty crude for a supposed "professional".
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You have to be kidding about Chomsky cc. Not liking the views of someone is one thing. To render them completely meaningless in the face of a lifetime of societal contribution is another.
Not at all. Other than thinking he knows it all and loving being worshiped as a god by his cultists, where exactly has he contributed to anything beyond maintaining his own ludicrous ego?
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You have to be kidding about Chomsky cc. Not liking the views of someone is one thing. To render them completely meaningless in the face of a lifetime of societal contribution is another.
Not at all.Other than thinking he knows it all and speaking to socialists, where exactly has he contributed to anything beyond maintaining his own ego?
His work has influenced fields such as artificial intelligence, cognitive science, computer science, logic, mathematics, music theory and analysis, political science, programming language theory and psychology.
Feel free to read up on more of his contributions to society:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky
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That is pretty crude for a supposed "professional".
Really? Just that little insult?
As Rich Lowry responded:
@realDonaldTrump I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic
@realDonaldTrump man, you can dish it out but you REALLY, REALLY can't take it
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Off central topic, but I'm having a ball watching Donald shake up the Q's of our world. They claim to be not concerned about him at all, but yet they pick up on him and go out of their way to comment on every word he says, I just find it all even funnier than Donald himself
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You have to be kidding about Chomsky cc. Not liking the views of someone is one thing. To render them completely meaningless in the face of a lifetime of societal contribution is another.
none of which has the square root of fuck all to do with his opinion on political correctness
Clearly I'm referring to his value in the area of discussion (political correctness). His extremist socialist theories rule him (or any extremist of any cloth) out as having any value to that area, let alone to politics in general
His "describing how PC doesn't really exist but its presence is exaggerated by media as distraction to real problems"
is ludicrous, the ravings of an out of control egotist
As to what was quoted, his opinion is both incorrect and meaningless. Most real people know that PC is very real and one of if not "the" biggest societal things of our time. It is extremely important albeit important mainly as a negative force
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That is pretty crude for a supposed "professional".
Really? Just that little insult?
As Rich Lowry responded:
@realDonaldTrump I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic
@realDonaldTrump man, you can dish it out but you REALLY, REALLY can't take it
Donald doesn't have a leg to stand on calling for an apology or a fine either though.
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I'm having a ball watching Donald shake up the Q's of our world. They claim to be not concerned about him at all, but yet they pick up on him and go out of their way to comment on every word he says, I just find it all even funnier than Donald himself
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You have to be kidding about Chomsky cc. Not liking the views of someone is one thing. To render them completely meaningless in the face of a lifetime of societal contribution is another.
none of which has the square root of fuck all to do with his opinion on political correctness
Clearly I'm referring to his value in the area of discussion (political correctness). His extremist socialist theories rule him (or any extremist of any cloth) out as having any value to that area, let alone to politics in general
I see what you are saying.
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Donald Trump was on the receiving end of a vicious take-down by South Park on Wednesday evening, which skirted the borders of decency and taste and arguably crossed them.
In an almost unprecedented attack on a running presidential candidate, the adult cartoon lampooned the Republican and in a shocking finale, showed the billionaire businessman being brutally raped to death.
The inflammatory episode of the satirical cartoon, created by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, was supposed to attack Trump's immigration policies and mocked his oft-repeated promise to build a wall between the US and Mexico.
Tycoon Trump's campaign declined to comment on the episode, which was entitled 'Where My Country Gone'.
//http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247124/Controversial-South-Park-episode-shows-Donald-Trump-raped-murdered.html
Sounds funny! You can catch the episode here:
//http://www.much.com/shows/south-park/
Some of the Canadian jokes were funny but the %#%*ing to death bit was stupid.
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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to say, this is one of the best definitions of a term I have seen to date.
I did not read this thread from the beginning..
Some people would consider me pc because I choose my words carefully..
But, I don't insist others copy what I do.
PC is best described as plain courtesy.
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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to say, this is one of the best definitions of a term I have seen to date.
It stems from Cultural Marxism which is an ideology dreamed up by a group of Jewish 'intellectuals' who taught at the infamous Frankfurt School of Marxism.
I loathe anything and anyone who is overtly PC...
So I take it you won't be at any slut walks in the near future? :D
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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to say, this is one of the best definitions of a term I have seen to date.
It stems from Cultural Marxism which is an ideology dreamed up by a group of Jewish 'intellectuals' who taught at the infamous Frankfurt School of Marxism.
I loathe anything and anyone who is overtly PC...
It doesn't get under my skin because I don't come across that crap in my work. If you are pc type, don't work on a drilling lease.
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So I take it you won't be at any slut walks in the near future? :D
Whats a slut walk?
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So I take it you won't be at any slut walks in the near future? :D
Whats a slut walk?
http://www.slutwalktoronto.com
Here's political correct on steroids - this is how convoluted PC is
The Term 'Politically Correct' Is Now 'Politically Incorrect' And A 'Microaggression' :laugh:
UWM says 'politically correct' is no longer politically correct (//http)
BUAHAHAHAHA
The People's Cube covered it (//http)
Damn I love that blog. They are ruthless with satire

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The People's Cube (//http)
The oxymoron that is "political correctness" is little more than a euphemism of a misnomer for the grey area revolving around intercultural disputes among a common society that should be resolved through greater reasoning across the social norms, folkways, mores, taboos, and laws of the land.
There can never be a concise definition of politically correct any more than any combination of an opinion based term and a factual one.
This is a definition of "politics":
-The activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
and this is a definition of "correct"
-Free from error; in accordance with fact or truth.
Can you have a factual debate through conflict without acknowledging a bias of opinion on either side? You could try, but it wouldn't be factual unless the "incorrect" opposition just accepted they were wrong and conceded authority with no further argument.
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Ahmed Mohamed's "Clock" Claimed 14 Victims – Where Is The Outrage?
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Remember: If you see something, Shut The F*ck Up you RACIST!
Because the Obama Administration has just threatened you with prosecution for saying ANYTHING that might make Muslims uncomfortable.
It was a hoax, but we all knew that from day one. It killed just as surely as if it had been filled with Symtex.
Ask the perp's neighbor who was afraid to call the cops well before the shooting
[size=150]PC kills![/size]
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