Title: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 24, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 24, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
By David Ignatius, Opinion Writer, September 24, 2015 8:28 PM
Pope Francis and Chinese President Xi Jinping arrived in the United States this week the same way, making a slow descent down an airplane ramp toward a waiting entourage. Watching the two, you couldn't help wondering: Which man is more powerful in the world today?
Francis is arguably the dominant figure, despite the old crack about how many army divisions the pope has, and the potency of a rising China. That's because the nature of power has changed: Francis embodies the kind of intangible but world-changing influence that matters most now, which Harvard University professor Joseph Nye a decade ago described in his book "Soft Power."
Francis's primacy is clear when you add the other two figures who will dominate the stage in the coming days ahead of the United Nations General Assembly in New York — President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Their quest for temporal power — in Putin's case, through the most aggressive use of Russian military force in a generation — is more fragile than it looks.
"Soft power rests on the ability to shape the preferences of others," Nye wrote in his 2004 book. The essence of such influence, he said, was that it "co-opts people rather than coerces them." This past decade has been a series of lessons about the limits of the military version of hard power to achieve results, notably in Iraq.
Why is Francis such a magnetic figure? The answer illustrates a paradox of power that resonates with the Christian message. This pope is strong because he is humble. His message resonates in a complex world because it is simple. He disdains the trappings of power, the pomp and fanfare, and thereby enhances his real power. All of his words and actions seem to be going in the same direction.
Francis's special impact was clear Thursday when his speech to a joint meeting of Congress brought a rare moment of bipartisanship to the House chamber. The pope touched on political issues — including immigration, climate change and the sanctity of life — but his core message was the simplest precept of tolerance and faith: the "Golden Rule." On the Capitol balcony afterward, he even reached out to unbelievers, asking them for good wishes.
What's fascinating, watching Xi, Obama and Putin on the same global stage with Francis, is that the political leaders seem to crave the authenticity that the religious leader commands so effortlessly.
Obama had this intangible quality in his first year as president. His 2009 Nobel Peace Prize might have been premature, but it reflected a global yearning for his trademark theme, hope. Obama lost this halo as he shouldered the commander in chief's burdens of wars and drone strikes. His hard- and soft-power messages got mixed. The world began to perceive him as warlike and inflexible, while many Americans began to see him as pliable and weak.
With the exception of the Iran nuclear agreement, in which Obama embraced a strategy his first day in office and carried it through systematically, he also came to be seen as reactive, rather than visionary. That's a mistake Francis never makes.
Putin is hungry for soft power, even as he flexes his muscles, literally and figuratively. He wants to be seen as the bare-chested big-game hunter, and he seems to relish his experiments with paramilitary "hybrid warfare" in Ukraine. But his ambition (and real power) is something deeper: an appeal to the aspirations and grievances of a Russia that feels its culture and values have been ignored. However distasteful Putin's actions may be, the West should recognize the spiritual yearning that underlies his power — the soft side of hard.
Xi, meanwhile, is in some ways the most paradoxical of the figures visiting the United States. Like Putin, he has tried to operate as a "big guy" in the world arena — "Xi Dada," or Big Daddy Xi, is his Chinese nickname. But even as he cloaks himself in the garments of hard power, and ruthlessly consolidates control of the Communist Party machinery, Xi misses the soft touch. China over the past two years has made enemies of most of its Asian neighbors. Xi's power grab at home has stirred dissent and even whispers of unrest.
A pope is a teacher, always. But this one is teaching us about the nature of power in a world where social media can create an intimate bond with even the grandest figure. This bishop of Rome has unusual impact because he disdains the throne.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2015, 10:34:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2015, 10:34:23 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 24, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on September 24, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 25, 2015, 07:29:11 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 25, 2015, 07:29:11 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
You might want to pay a bit more attention to what Francis is all about.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: deadskinmask on September 25, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on September 25, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 25, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Post by: Bricktop on September 25, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
You might want to pay a bit more attention to what Francis is all about.
Maybe you could save us all the time and tell us where I am wrong.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 09:03:50 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 09:03:50 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 25, 2015, 09:43:51 PM
Post by: Bricktop on September 25, 2015, 09:43:51 PM
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Renee on September 25, 2015, 11:33:23 PM
Post by: Renee on September 25, 2015, 11:33:23 PM
My dear, did George Bush go to Iraq and shoot Iraqis?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Hitler personally authorized the use of whatever means necessary to achieve "the final solution"
Stalin personally signed over 300 lists of names authorizing the excecution of 40,000 people.
I think it's a safe bet that Pope Francis never signed or authorized anything that allowed or condoned the act of pedophilia.
Dumbest analogy ever in the history of this forum. Why am I not surprised that it came from you? Could it be your penchant for dramatics or is it that you are just a weak minded geriatric who cannot help himself from becoming hysterical.
Either way, you once again have proven yourself to be a fool. How long is this going to on because to be honest, it's getting painful to watch. It's obvious that your glory days of being the biggest brain on the block are coming to and end. It's time to step aside, old man.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 11:43:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 11:43:27 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
I can't stomach this clown of a pope or the audience he is given and doesn't deserve.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:53:59 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:53:59 PM
My dear, did George Bush go to Iraq and shoot Iraqis?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Hitler personally authorized the use of whatever means necessary to achieve "the final solution"
Stalin personally signed over 300 lists of names authorizing the excecution of 40,000 people.
I think it's a safe bet that Pope Francis never signed or authorized anything that allowed or condoned the act of pedophilia.
Dumbest analogy ever in the history of this forum. Why am I not surprised that it came from you? Could it be your penchant for dramatics or is it that you are just a weak minded geriatric who cannot help himself from becoming hysterical.
Either way, you once again have proven yourself to be a fool. How long is this going to on because to be honest, it's getting painful to watch. It's obvious that your glory days of being the biggest brain on the block are coming to and end. It's time to step aside old man.
That ended the day he shared a forum with you and I haha
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
I can't stomach this clown of a pope or the audience he is given and doesn't deserve.
Comparatively speaking, I rather like him.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
I can't stomach this clown of a pope or the audience he is given and doesn't deserve.
Comparatively speaking, I rather like him.
Comparatively speaking, I dislike him even more.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:58:14 PM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 11:58:14 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:02:10 AM
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:02:10 AM
My dear, did George Bush go to Iraq and shoot Iraqis?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Hitler personally authorized the use of whatever means necessary to achieve "the final solution"
Stalin personally signed over 300 lists of names authorizing the excecution of 40,000 people.
I think it's a safe bet that Pope Francis never signed or authorized anything that allowed or condoned the act of pedophilia.
Dumbest analogy ever in the history of this forum. Why am I not surprised that it came from you? Could it be your penchant for dramatics or is it that you are just a weak minded geriatric who cannot help himself from becoming hysterical.
Either way, you once again have proven yourself to be a fool. How long is this going to on because to be honest, it's getting painful to watch. It's obvious that your glory days of being the biggest brain on the block are coming to and end. It's time to step aside old man.
They ended the day he shared a forum with you and I haha
Are you okay?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:03:53 AM
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:03:53 AM
My dear, did George Bush go to Iraq and shoot Iraqis?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Hitler personally authorized the use of whatever means necessary to achieve "the final solution"
Stalin personally signed over 300 lists of names authorizing the excecution of 40,000 people.
I think it's a safe bet that Pope Francis never signed or authorized anything that allowed or condoned the act of pedophilia.
Dumbest analogy ever in the history of this forum. Why am I not surprised that it came from you? Could it be your penchant for dramatics or is it that you are just a weak minded geriatric who cannot help himself from becoming hysterical.
Either way, you once again have proven yourself to be a fool. How long is this going to on because to be honest, it's getting painful to watch. It's obvious that your glory days of being the biggest brain on the block are coming to and end. It's time to step aside old man.
They ended the day he shared a forum with you and I haha
Are you okay?ac_unsure
Yeah. I'm tired so I typoed my jab as usual. DERP!
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:13:07 AM
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:13:07 AM
My dear, did George Bush go to Iraq and shoot Iraqis?Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Did Hitler drop the Zyklon cannisters into the showers?
Did Stalin shoot his generals?
Hitler personally authorized the use of whatever means necessary to achieve "the final solution"
Stalin personally signed over 300 lists of names authorizing the excecution of 40,000 people.
I think it's a safe bet that Pope Francis never signed or authorized anything that allowed or condoned the act of pedophilia.
Dumbest analogy ever in the history of this forum. Why am I not surprised that it came from you? Could it be your penchant for dramatics or is it that you are just a weak minded geriatric who cannot help himself from becoming hysterical.
Either way, you once again have proven yourself to be a fool. How long is this going to on because to be honest, it's getting painful to watch. It's obvious that your glory days of being the biggest brain on the block are coming to and end. It's time to step aside old man.
They ended the day he shared a forum with you and I haha
Are you okay?ac_unsure
Yeah. I'm tired so I typoed my jab as usual. DERP!
Shit, that's a relief. I thought you were having a TIA.
Go to bed.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:20:24 AM
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:20:24 AM
Shit, that's a relief. I thought you were having a TIA.
Go to bed.
I'll sleep when I'm dead.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 12:28:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 12:28:17 AM
Why?Quote from: "RW"
He tweets, good for him. He just addressed a joint session of congress and the UN. He forgets he's only a frickin bishop. He's not an elected politician, a scientist or a rock star. Stick to his stupid church's problems and leave issues he doesn't understand to those that know what they are doing.
This pope is sickening.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:49:44 AM
Post by: Renee on September 26, 2015, 12:49:44 AM
Shit, that's a relief. I thought you were having a TIA.
Go to bed.
I'll sleep when I'm dead.
Won't we all.
In the meantime, I've had enough fun.
Good night.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 12:55:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 12:55:40 AM
Shit, that's a relief. I thought you were having a TIA.
Go to bed.
I'll sleep when I'm dead.
Won't we all.
In the meantime, I've had enough fun.
Good night.
Good night Renee.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Why?Quote from: "RW"
He tweets, good for him. He just addressed a joint session of congress and the UN. He forgets he's only a frickin bishop. He's not an elected politician, a scientist or a rock star. Stick to his stupid church's problems and leave issues he doesn't understand to those that know what they are doing.
This pope is sickening.
He's the elected head of the COUNTRY called the Vatican.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: westcoastguy on September 26, 2015, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: westcoastguy on September 26, 2015, 11:58:00 AM
Why?Quote from: "RW"
He tweets, good for him. He just addressed a joint session of congress and the UN. He forgets he's only a frickin bishop. He's not an elected politician, a scientist or a rock star. Stick to his stupid church's problems and leave issues he doesn't understand to those that know what they are doing.
This pope is sickening.
He's the elected head of the COUNTRY called the Vatican.
The status dates back to a treaty Vittorio Emmanuel (the first king of a unified Italia) signed with the Pope of the time: in exchange for the Vatican no longer playing any role in Italian politics, the Vatican was given extraterritoriality. But, there is no territorial control. You can walk from the Vatican to Rome without showing your passport.
Technically speaking, Vatican city is a sub-city inside Rome. The US Department of State's background notes on the Holy See explain the situation this way:
"The term "Holy See" refers to the composite of the authority, jurisdiction, and sovereignty vested in the Pope and his advisers to direct the worldwide Roman Catholic Church.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 26, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 26, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
I don't care nor do I pay attention to anything any pope says or does anymore than I care what the moderator of the United Church or the archbishop of Canterbury say or do.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Neither do I, Fash, but I will say that I respect him as a person and for the title he holds. I'm from the other side of the tracks, you know, Fash. Therefore, as you know, we only go straight to the big man.
A couple of years ago, I said unkind things about the pope on my facebook wall and got unfriended by some, not all, of my devout Catholic friends. Not a great loss to me, really. They saved me the trouble of deleting them, not because they were Catholic, but because they proved it was okay to sever our connection. I said, "
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 26, 2015, 08:46:45 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 26, 2015, 08:46:45 PM
By Nick Squires, Rome, 3:29PM GMT 15 Mar 2013
In his first two days in the job, Francis wore an ordinary pair of black shoes, having apparently rejected the smart red loafers that were favoured by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.
Benedict had his red shoes hand-made for him by a cobbler in the Borgo, the tightly-packed grid of medieval streets that lies a stone's throw from the Vatican.
A pair of the red shoes had been made for his successor and were displayed in the shop window of Gammarelli, the papal tailors in Rome, in the days before the conclave.
Before he left Buenos Aires for Rome, Cardinal Bergoglio, as he was before his election on Wednesday, was wearing a pair of shoes so shabby that friends insisted on buying him a new pair.
"The day he was departing for the conclave, a couple of friends brought him a pair of shoes. He's always very humbly dressed and the shoes he was wearing were not in very good shape," a pair of South American priests told Vatican Radio.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: J0E on September 27, 2015, 01:09:08 AM
Post by: J0E on September 27, 2015, 01:09:08 AM
Like any political or spiritual leader, he's just a figurehead. Its his colleagues who are behind the scenes that are pulling the Strings.
The Church knows its growth is no longer in Europe but the 3rd world. So that's why he was appointed.
Anyways, I heard rumors that Pope John Paul I was murdered. They didn't really want him there very long, and the real intent was so that he could act as a caretaker so that his successor, John Paul II could succeed him shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, he was being groomed for the job.
This pope is sickening. But, I respected John Paul the second. Not for his role as head of his church. I respected him for his fight against Soviet dominated communism in his birth country, Poland. I admired the man for his courage, but I hated his title.Quote from: "Herman"
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2015, 02:15:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2015, 02:15:54 AM
Why so much hate for the Pope and the RC Church?Quote from: "Frank"
Like any political or spiritual leader, he's just a figurehead. Its his colleagues who are behind the scenes that are pulling the Strings.
The Church knows its growth is no longer in Europe but the 3rd world. So that's why he was appointed.
Anyways, I heard rumors that Pope John Paul I was murdered. They didn't really want him there very long, and the real intent was so that he could act as a caretaker so that his successor, John Paul II could succeed him shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, he was being groomed for the job.This pope is sickening. But, I respected John Paul the second. Not for his role as head of his church. I respected him for his fight against Soviet dominated communism in his birth country, Poland. I admired the man for his courage, but I hated his title.Quote from: "Herman"
Cities all over the world should stop wasting emergency service costs for a guy in white robes and a point hat.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 06:15:05 AM
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 06:15:05 AM
Why so much hate for the Pope and the RC Church?Quote from: "Frank"
Like any political or spiritual leader, he's just a figurehead. Its his colleagues who are behind the scenes that are pulling the Strings.
The Church knows its growth is no longer in Europe but the 3rd world. So that's why he was appointed.
Anyways, I heard rumors that Pope John Paul I was murdered. They didn't really want him there very long, and the real intent was so that he could act as a caretaker so that his successor, John Paul II could succeed him shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, he was being groomed for the job.This pope is sickening. But, I respected John Paul the second. Not for his role as head of his church. I respected him for his fight against Soviet dominated communism in his birth country, Poland. I admired the man for his courage, but I hated his title.Quote from: "Herman"
Cities all over the world should stop wasting emergency service costs for aguy in white robes and a point hat.
Do you mean him?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 27, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 27, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 27, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 27, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
We are the Society of Jesus, a Roman Catholic order of priests and brothers founded half a millennium ago by the soldier-turned-mystic Ignatius Loyola. But most people call us "the Jesuits."
In the vision of our founder, we seek to "find God in all things." We dedicate ourselves to the "greater glory of God" and the good of all humanity. And we do so gratefully in collaboration with others who share our values, including laypersons. They have become part of the "we," the extended Jesuit family.
With close to 17,000-plus priests and brothers worldwide, we are the largest male religious order in the Catholic Church. We are pastors, teachers, and chaplains. We are also doctors, lawyers, and astronomers, among many other roles in Church and society. In our varied ministries, we care for the whole person: body, mind, and soul. And especially in our education ministries, we seek to nurture "men and women for others."
Jesuits draw on the rich tradition of Ignatian spirituality and reflection. In our retreat centers, parishes, campus ministries, and other settings, we offer these resources to all who want to discern God's presence in their lives. At the same time, we also aim to be "contemplatives in action," people who bring this spirituality into the wide world. That includes our work on behalf of global justice, peace, and dialogue.
Four Vows
As members of a religious order, Jesuits take three vows — of poverty, chastity and obedience — and a fourth vow of obedience specifically in regard to worldwide mission. In other words, Jesuits must be ready to accept whatever mission the Pope requires, a vow that is reflective of our broader dedication to the universal Church, and to the greater good of all people from all faiths and cultures.
Our collaboration with the laity flows from our personal relationships with Christ. We see ourselves as companions of Jesus, and we invite others to join with us, as friends in the Lord. Together we build up the body of Christ.
With our friends and partners, we also reach out to a broadly diverse world because that's where God is. From experience and reflection, we know that meaning, value, and divine purpose can be discovered "in all things."
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Why so much hate for the Pope and the RC Church?Quote from: "Frank"
Like any political or spiritual leader, he's just a figurehead. Its his colleagues who are behind the scenes that are pulling the Strings.
The Church knows its growth is no longer in Europe but the 3rd world. So that's why he was appointed.
Anyways, I heard rumors that Pope John Paul I was murdered. They didn't really want him there very long, and the real intent was so that he could act as a caretaker so that his successor, John Paul II could succeed him shortly afterwards. Meanwhile, he was being groomed for the job.This pope is sickening. But, I respected John Paul the second. Not for his role as head of his church. I respected him for his fight against Soviet dominated communism in his birth country, Poland. I admired the man for his courage, but I hated his title.Quote from: "Herman"
Cities all over the world should stop wasting emergency service costs for aguy in white robes and a point hat.
Oh my Keeper.
:ohmy:
Do you mean him?ac_wot (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i60.tinypic.com/2na0fwl.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i60.tinypic.com/2na0fwl.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 28, 2015, 04:28:05 PM
Post by: Frood on September 28, 2015, 04:28:05 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 09:49:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 09:49:42 PM
Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
The pope is likely the false prophet of revelation. The whore. Everything you said is probably truth....albiet, not in the way you think. If/when the pope starts teaming up with a certain global elite "new on the scene" and talking peace, I suggest you pick up a bible, open your mind, and give the Lord just a tiny bit of a nod. Because whether you believe it or not, we ARE in the last leg of human history. That "myth" is literally being played out right in front of everyone.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 01:36:13 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 01:36:13 AM
I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:44:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:44:28 AM
I do not give a damn about revelation. He is an unqualified moron in a Halloween costume. It's ludicrous that he addressed the UN just like it was when Leonardo Dicaprio did.Yet it omits to explain that the Pope is a devotee and follower of a myth; a great lie that has caused as much misery in the world as any war, or brutal dictator.Quote from: "SPECTRE"
He may be more humble than his predecessors. He may be "softer" in how he deals with the world. He may espouse "peace and harmony".
But we should never forget that this is a man who decries birth control. Who's organisation harbours one of the worst paedophilia rings in human history. Who commands the wealth of small nations while his flock lives in misery and poverty. Who believes that he has the power to ex-communicate, or put another way, condemn a believer to eternal damnation if he so pleases.
The Roman church is as much a hypocrisy as any other religion. When Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope has, he asked the wrong question. He should have asked how many divisions the Catholic church has created in human civilisation.
Then the face of true evil may take on a more benign look. A man with a wolf's mask would not be able to gather a flock of sheep.
The pope is likely the false prophet of revelation. The whore. Everything you said is probably truth....albiet, not in the way you think. If/when the pope starts teaming up with a certain global elite "new on the scene" and talking peace, I suggest you pick up a bible, open your mind, and give the Lord just a tiny bit of a nod. Because whether you believe it or not, we ARE in the last leg of human history. That "myth" is literally being played out right in front of everyone.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 01:46:05 AM
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 01:46:05 AM
Because whether you believe it or not, we ARE in the last leg of human history. That "myth" is literally being played out right in front of everyone.Quote from: "Dove"
The end is nigh.
The staple of a lunatic with a sandwich board for centuries. Repent, for judgment day is imminent.
Well, here we are...and there's no sign things are coming to an end any time soon.
The Mayan's thought they had it nailed...but they fell short by 3 years and counting. Mankind has some way to go, toots...and if you truly believed otherwise, you would not have bred children. Did you have babies just so they could burn in the fires of God's wrath? Well, it fits the Christian ethos, at least.
A true Christian would not be banging their tambourine proclaiming the end of days. A true Christian would relish each day and work towards a better future. But then, who'd listen to them if there was no heaven or hell?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:47:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:47:45 AM
Well then we start by getting rid of every moral law. Which is all of them. How do you feel about that? I think people forget the basis for right and wrong were never secular. As far as I'm concerned atheists need to learn their place....and it's not above anyone. Whenever you let atheists in control, things like the Soviet Union and north Korea happen. So sit down, heathen. You may as well appreciate things like "Thou shalt not murder". The more moral laws we skip around, the worse society gets. You can literally statistically watch the decline in America as God has been kicked out of everything. The absence of "religion" as you call it, has done absolutely nothing good for this country.I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:56:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:56:05 AM
Would you like to go one by one?Because whether you believe it or not, we ARE in the last leg of human history. That "myth" is literally being played out right in front of everyone.Quote from: "Dove"
The end is nigh.
The staple of a lunatic with a sandwich board for centuries. Repent, for judgment day is imminent.
Well, here we are...and there's no sign things are coming to an end any time soon.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 01:57:42 AM
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 01:57:42 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:58:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 01:58:56 AM
Or knowledge of God in the land.
2 By swearing and lying,
Killing and stealing and committing adultery,
They break all restraint,
With bloodshed upon bloodshed.
3 Therefore the land will mourn;
And everyone who dwells there will waste away
With the beasts of the field
And the birds of the air;
Even the fish of the sea will be taken away.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Religion doesn't have any higher ground or authority with social mores. The basis for wrong and right evolved because of society's need for stability and cohesion. Religion is a very latecomer. It needs to mind it's own business or its followers will get what they deserve.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:01:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:01:15 AM
that's the most retarded thing you've ever posted. Come back when you don't operate on bias.I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Religion doesn't have any higher ground or authority with social mores. The basis for wrong and right evolved because of society's need for stability and cohesion. Religion is a very latecomer. It needs to mind it's own business or its followers will get what they deserve.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:02:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:02:10 AM
Mass animal deaths have been happening....for the last part of that scripture. There is more...hold onAre you hitting on me???Quote from: "SPECTRE"
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:06:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:06:26 AM
4 And Jesus answered and said to them: "Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all[a] these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences,
9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
The Great Tribulation
15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,'[c] spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
26 "Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:10:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:10:54 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Religion doesn't have any higher ground or authority with social mores. The basis for wrong and right evolved because of society's need for stability and cohesion. Religion is a very latecomer. It needs to mind it's own business or its followers will get what they deserve.
Whatever. You drink the Kool Aid. I don't.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:16:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:16:23 AM
The Coming of the Son of Man
25 "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:16:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:16:49 AM
See, I would, really. But you didn't save any.I think the Pope is really up himself and should back the hell away from politics and the ridiculous man made climate change cult. The guy is busking for followers and favors. I'm not at all impressed with his rhetoric.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I'm not impressed with his heretical theology and self exaltation. The RC has been in bed with free masons and the occult since Constantine.
I don't care about any of those allegations. Religion needs to know it's place, away from politics.
Religion doesn't have any higher ground or authority with social mores. The basis for wrong and right evolved because of society's need for stability and cohesion. Religion is a very latecomer. It needs to mind it's own business or its followers will get what they deserve.
Whatever. You drink the Kool Aid. I don't.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:19:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:19:21 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:19:39 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:19:39 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:20:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:20:41 AM
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Typical of your kind. Your Kool Aid is sacred water while my plain water is supposed to be a Kool Aid.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna":001_rolleyes:
Ya, everyone knows only "your kind" is allowed to speak with authority on world views. Hahaha. Look, atheists are irrational. You can't honestly claim to be an atheist and expect to be a rational person. It is more intellectually honest to say you are a hard agnostic. Even dumbass dicey Dawkins understands that. It's your choice to believe or not....but you are not an athority figure over humanity. I get your point, and dismissed it ages ago. Are you having rejection issues? If you want your view respected, respect others. Don't cry foul when the tables turn.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:37:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 02:37:30 AM
It's not the end for the body of Christ. It's the end of sin and evil. What do you think the resurrection meant? What do you think baptism is a reflection of? This natural world, this linear time dimension is not going to last. It is going to melt away, fade from sight. It's not even really reality. There is so much more beyond what our eyes see. We are not going to make this world "better". Our sin nature has been and will continue to steadily and rapidly destroy creation and no amount of wishful thinking is going to suddenly change that and make humans less greedy and less destructive. And you know that. We have been "trying to make the world a better place" for centuries. Take a look around, Spec. How's it working? And what makes you think Christians don't lift a finger? The secular solutions to social ills are based in enabling and entitlement. Wefare? Abortion? That's the best we have to offer?Because whether you believe it or not, we ARE in the last leg of human history. That "myth" is literally being played out right in front of everyone.Quote from: "Dove"
The end is nigh.
The staple of a lunatic with a sandwich board for centuries. Repent, for judgment day is imminent.
Well, here we are...and there's no sign things are coming to an end any time soon.
The Mayan's thought they had it nailed...but they fell short by 3 years and counting. Mankind has some way to go, toots...and if you truly believed otherwise, you would not have bred children. Did you have babies just so they could burn in the fires of God's wrath? Well, it fits the Christian ethos, at least.
A true Christian would not be banging their tambourine proclaiming the end of days. A true Christian would relish each day and work towards a better future. But then, who'd listen to them if there was no heaven or hell?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:45:23 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 02:45:23 AM
Typical of your kind. Your Kool Aid is sacred water while my plain water is supposed to be a Kool Aid.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna":001_rolleyes:
Ya, everyone knows only "your kind" is allowed to speak with authority on world views. Hahaha. Look, atheists are irrational. You can't honestly claim to be an atheist and expect to be a rational person. It is more intellectually honest to say you are a hard agnostic. Even dumbass dicey Dawkins understands that. It's your choice to believe or not....but you are not an athority figure over humanity. I get your point, and dismissed it ages ago. Are you having rejection issues?
Atheists are irrational?
Skepticism is irrational then? The scientific methods must also be irrational exploits.
About 6,000 years of recorded human history over approximately 200,000 years of existence yet you and your modern moon unit variants have claimed dominion over humanity and each other (often by threat of death) since the last few thousand years and that is your authority?
Try as hard as you can but you can't dismiss that, though you'll give it a feeble go anyway. You can't help yourself. Kool Aid addiction begets more Kool Aid.
Anyway, I've stated my opinion on how religious figures should stay out of parliaments and congresses, you screeching little ankle humping christ chihuahua. Drop the matter.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 03:08:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 03:08:07 AM
You wouldn't have the scientific method if not for a *gasp* bible believer. And yes, making a claim that there is no God is totally irrational. Falling back on insults also confirms the weakness of your position. You can't debate your way out of a paper bag....because you are, say it with me....totally irrational. Most of the greatest thinkers in science were believers. I'm sure you are more of a rational thinker than Isaac Newton, Galileo, even Tesla. I could go on....but I've made my point. Really you are just a close minded asshole with a lot of nothing to add to any deep discussion about the nature of the universe and humanity, except to serve as the only good argument for humans originating from monkeys with all that poop you sling. If you wish to take Christianity vs atheism(secular) to the test....I'm ready to slap you all over this board with historical facts like the whiny red headed step child you are. You wanna hash this out? Let's discuss human history. Show me ONE example of biblical Christianity have "dominion" over anything and using the "threat of death". I won't hold my breath. When you are done ranting about catholics I'll correct you on that and give you the staggering death toll of atheism. You go first.Typical of your kind. Your Kool Aid is sacred water while my plain water is supposed to be a Kool Aid.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna":001_rolleyes:
Ya, everyone knows only "your kind" is allowed to speak with authority on world views. Hahaha. Look, atheists are irrational. You can't honestly claim to be an atheist and expect to be a rational person. It is more intellectually honest to say you are a hard agnostic. Even dumbass dicey Dawkins understands that. It's your choice to believe or not....but you are not an athority figure over humanity. I get your point, and dismissed it ages ago. Are you having rejection issues?
Atheists are irrational?:laugh:
Skepticism is irrational then? The scientific methods must also be irrational exploits.
About 6,000 years of recorded human history over approximately 200,000 years of existence yet you and your modern moon unit variants have claimed dominion over humanity and each other (often by threat of death) since the last few thousand years and that is your authority?ac_toofunny
Try as hard as you can but you can't dismiss that, though you'll give it a feeble go anyway. You can't help yourself. Kool Aid addiction begets more Kool Aid.
Anyway, I've stated my opinion on how religious figures should stay out of parliaments and congresses, you screeching little ankle humping christ chihuahua. Drop the matter.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 03:17:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 03:17:11 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 03:38:55 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 03:38:55 AM
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.
And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 04:19:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 04:19:30 AM
offs. So why should I accept your carbon dated pile of unreliable shit as opposed to the several other carbon dated piles of shit? And why is that one more accurate than this month's secular number of what....65 billion year old earth? Did the dinosaur soft tissue put a damper on the billions of years? Look....you better start questioning the stuff you are told. Try researching carbon dating. We did not evolve, Dinky. We have DEvolved. We lose genetic material....we do not gain it. Give up the indoctrinated delusions. And again, about those boundaries? You are the most intolerant person on this board, you are freely posting....ad nauseum, your hatred towards Christians on a board owned by a Christain. And I'm sorry but who decided the secular world view should be the default?You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 04:25:11 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 04:25:11 AM
You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
You really are a mong.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 04:31:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 04:31:41 AM
Dear, carbon dating is not accurate. This is not exactly ground breaking news. Atheism is notorious for scientific illeracy....hence why only religious people have made serious advancements. Honestly you guys need to stay out of science. Making dildos for 4 year old girls with gender issues and oxycodon for 11 year Olds is not progressive. This is the shit that happens in secular society. Send your 4 year old to preschool with a strap on on and feed them books about how to masturbate. I'm willing to bet that most would rather read the "religious laundry" I post than your endless menstrual flow of vapid intolerance.You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 04:39:20 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 04:39:20 AM
You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
That really takes the cake, Dove.
You're one of the most unintelligent people I've ever come across online and I hope you've been sterilized before you do any further damage to mankind's chances.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 05:31:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 05:31:17 AM
That would explain my gpa, my tested iq (yeah...they test that in some rehabs) and the fact that I was smart enough to use drugs. You are the one who thinks politics is more than smoke and mirrors. Tell me again how Christians were threatening people with death and "dominating" others and eachother, you freaking genius. Teach us about this "Christian reign of terror" that only exists in your empty head.You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
ac_lmfao
That really takes the cake, Dove.
You're one of the most unintelligent people I've ever come across online and I hope you've been sterilized before you do any further damage to mankind's chances.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 05:44:36 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 05:44:36 AM
You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
ac_lmfao
That really takes the cake, Dove.
You're one of the most unintelligent people I've ever come across online and I hope you've been sterilized before you do any further damage to mankind's chances.
Coming down off something, Dove?
The violence of Christianity is widely documented and doesn't require further discussion. You signed up for it. Wear your history with pride.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 05:46:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 05:46:47 AM
Yeah where? You are talking about the RC, dumb ass. They were killing Christians. It wasn't Christains dominating and terrorizing. That's never happened. Shall we now discuss the well documented death counts of atheism?You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
ac_lmfao
That really takes the cake, Dove.
You're one of the most unintelligent people I've ever come across online and I hope you've been sterilized before you do any further damage to mankind's chances.
:roll:
Coming down off something, Dove?
The violence of Christianity is widely documented and doesn't require further discussion. You signed up for it. Wear your history with pride.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 05:57:15 AM
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 05:57:15 AM
3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.Quote from: "Dove"
You're describing the last 10,000 years.
When is the end coming, then?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 06:10:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 06:10:43 AM
No. And thats always what people say at first. Take an honest look at it.3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.Quote from: "Dove"
You're describing the last 10,000 years.
When is the end coming, then?
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 06:21:52 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 06:21:52 AM
You've yet again turned a fairly basic topic into another platform to air your religious laundry because like the Pope recently and certain factions of Muslims plus other denominations, you don't respect boundaries between secular and nonsecular. That's the crux of the matter, Dove. You insult yourself first and foremost whenever you get all giddy and resort to unloading posts full of religious texts in threads which never asked for them and on people who don't want to even skim them much less read them.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In your head space, boundaries are for other people and not you. It's conceited, illogical, and not very intelligent of you.
You've Pope'd yourself again, Dove. You've Pope'd yourself quite severely.ac_smile And I'm sorry to break this to you, but the earliest record of recorded human history wasn't 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. But that's a figure I haven't seen yet. How many billions of years old is the earth this week? Did they tack on or subtract this month? It's hard to keep up. I guess it depends which "legit" science source is your favorite. Eh?Quote from: "Dove"
Modern humans came around 200,000 years ago out of Africa. They've carbon dated and tracked Y chromosome mutations to arrive at a 200-210 thousand year approximation. Modern recorded history goes back to the Sumerians roughly 6,000 years ago.
Don't break your brain, Dove.:001_rolleyes:
ac_toofunny
You really are a mong.
ac_lmfao
That really takes the cake, Dove.
You're one of the most unintelligent people I've ever come across online and I hope you've been sterilized before you do any further damage to mankind's chances.
:roll:
Coming down off something, Dove?
The violence of Christianity is widely documented and doesn't require further discussion. You signed up for it. Wear your history with pride.
Were the pagans of Europe just begging to be converted? What about the wider reach of the Roman Empire? Constantine's war footing? The inquisitions and numerous crusades? Try delving into the sectarian violence between Christians for even more modern instances such as Catholics and Protestants killing one another on various continents and if it's to your tastes, familiarize yourself with Yugoslavia in the 90's. Christianity has burrowed so deep up governments and factional asses it's fucking disgusting.
Wear it, junkie. Wear it all. It's YOUR history.
Shall we now discuss the well documented death counts of atheism?Quote
Atheist or secular? Loads of people in the 20th century have been killed but to label secular as Atheist is fundamentally erroneous. Every portion of humanity is capable of murder and violence and even Atheists partake in it. It's neither here nor there. Atheism is many things to many people, and with no hierarchy or doctrines. The major difference is that the various religions have their doctrines and they rationalize their violence and murder.
But by all means, Dove. Try to pretend that Hitler wasn't a Muslim admiring Jew who dabbled in pagan mythology, Stalin ran a theocracy, and Pol Pot was a psychotic Buddhist turned social engineer.
And tell me more about your Rehab GPA score and farmyard IQ test.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:17:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:17:54 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:29:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:29:56 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 09:09:53 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 09:09:53 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 10:28:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 10:28:44 AM
Just because you have the sickness doesn't mean you should be able to cough all over everyone else, Dove.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
That same sentiment can be sent your way....and it would historically and statistically be more accurate. I'm not the vapid one hating on people.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 10:33:25 AM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 10:33:25 AM
How you operate can openers, motor vehicles, and gladlock bag mechanisms, I'll simply marvel at you but never know.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 10:47:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 10:47:19 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 11:13:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 11:13:45 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
The day you can actually back any of the bullshit you mindlessly spew with anything resembling a thought out posts and not these pathetic and generic insults we will talk about intelligence.Quote from: "Dove"
Catholics aren't Christians, Christians haven't repeatedly committed mindless atrocities against others and each other, and Atheists are anyone who don't follow Christianity or the other garden variety bullet point faith systems. Even if they do, they're not real faith based followers, they're atheists, and reinterpretation is open for faith based devotees to harangue non faith based quotients whether accurate or not. If challenged on this, mindless drones like yourself will chuck up Agnostic quips.
(Then there's the seedy undercurrent of hate for other competing spiritual ideologies, even if a prophet or great grandfather or two are shared along the timeline)
Yes, I get you, Dove.
Once an addict, always an addict.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 07:50:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on September 29, 2015, 07:50:03 PM
Man is the best there is, and despite many views to the contrary, we're pretty fucking amazing.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
I said intelligent post. Not a regurgitation of stereotypes and anti theist bias topped with yet another predictable and generic insult. Of course I'm not exactly holding my breath.The day you can actually back any of the bullshit you mindlessly spew with anything resembling a thought out posts and not these pathetic and generic insults we will talk about intelligence.Quote from: "Dove"
Catholics aren't Christians, Christians haven't repeatedly committed mindless atrocities against others and each other, and Atheists are anyone who don't follow Christianity or the other garden variety bullet point faith systems. Even if they do, they're not real faith based followers, they're atheists, and reinterpretation is open for faith based devotees to harangue non faith based quotients whether accurate or not. If challenged on this, mindless drones like yourself will chuck up Agnostic quips.
(Then there's the seedy undercurrent of hate for other competing spiritual ideologies, even if a prophet or great grandfather or two are shared along the timeline)
Yes, I get you, Dove.:laugh:
Once an addict, always an addict.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
Post by: Frood on September 29, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 11:57:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2015, 11:57:18 PM
The day you can actually back any of the bullshit you mindlessly spew with anything resembling a thought out posts and not these pathetic and generic insults we will talk about intelligence.Quote from: "Dove"
Catholics aren't Christians, Christians haven't repeatedly committed mindless atrocities against others and each other, and Atheists are anyone who don't follow Christianity or the other garden variety bullet point faith systems. Even if they do, they're not real faith based followers, they're atheists, and reinterpretation is open for faith based devotees to harangue non faith based quotients whether accurate or not. If challenged on this, mindless drones like yourself will chuck up Agnostic quips.
(Then there's the seedy undercurrent of hate for other competing spiritual ideologies, even if a prophet or great grandfather or two are shared along the timeline)
Yes, I get you, Dove.:laugh:
Once an addict, always an addict.
Relax for frick sakes. The only religion that is a threat to us all is Islam. Not Fashionista and Dove's beliefs, not Orthodox Jews, not Hutterites, Buddhists, Hindus, Satanists or Shintoists. Islam is the enemy. It is the only one that affects your security directly. The rest are just odd. Harmless and odd.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Bricktop on September 30, 2015, 04:11:51 AM
Post by: Bricktop on September 30, 2015, 04:11:51 AM
The day you can actually back any of the bullshit you mindlessly spew with anything resembling a thought out posts and not these pathetic and generic insults we will talk about intelligence.Quote from: "Dove"
Catholics aren't Christians, Christians haven't repeatedly committed mindless atrocities against others and each other, and Atheists are anyone who don't follow Christianity or the other garden variety bullet point faith systems. Even if they do, they're not real faith based followers, they're atheists, and reinterpretation is open for faith based devotees to harangue non faith based quotients whether accurate or not. If challenged on this, mindless drones like yourself will chuck up Agnostic quips.
(Then there's the seedy undercurrent of hate for other competing spiritual ideologies, even if a prophet or great grandfather or two are shared along the timeline)
Yes, I get you, Dove.:laugh:
Once an addict, always an addict.
Relax for frick sakes. The only religion that is a threat to us all is Islam. Not Fashionista and Dove's beliefs, not Orthodox Jews, not Hutterites, Buddhists, Hindus, Satanists or Shintoists. Islam is the enemy. It is the only one that affects your security directly. The rest are just odd. Harmless and odd.
I take your point, but disagree. All religion is a blight on civilisation, and an inhibitor to humanity's progress.
While humanity puts its faith into non existent entities, it ignores putting faith unto itself. While humanity blames an omniscient being for its maladies and misfortunes, it ignores blaming its own weaknesses.
While humans believe they are empowered by a deity to do whatever they wish to their enemies, we will have war.
It is not the christians, or muslims, or jews, or buddhists, hindus, krishnas and those that you mention that will be humanities salvation.
It is atheism.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 08:25:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 08:25:02 AM
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 08:27:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 08:27:30 AM
Did you master the steak knife before or after your high school prom, Dove?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
You're a real idiot, you know that? I suppose you also think Mormons are Christains. And thusly morons are catholic, who are all Christains. Let's throw jehova witnesses in there. It's all the same, cuz Dinky said so. Smh.
Title: Re: The Paradox of Pope Francis’s Power
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 02:32:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 02:32:51 PM
I take your point, but disagree. All religion is a blight on civilisation, and an inhibitor to humanity's progress.
While humanity puts its faith into non existent entities, it ignores putting faith unto itself. While humanity blames an omniscient being for its maladies and misfortunes, it ignores blaming its own weaknesses.
While humans believe they are empowered by a deity to do whatever they wish to their enemies, we will have war.
It is not the christians, or muslims, or jews, or buddhists, hindus, krishnas and those that you mention that will be humanities salvation.
It is atheism.
Who fucking cares if all those religions never save humanity. Politicians are hardly man's salvation either. They are more of a blight. The reason they are a blight is because they pander to a bloodthirsty ideology called Islam. You don't like all those religions, fine. You don't like Islam, you die. See the diff?