Title: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 12:57:34 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 12:57:34 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 12:58:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 12:58:53 AM
They needed to poll for that?Quote from: "RW"
Hey, I heard a NDP party member argue it was against Canadian values.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:01:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:01:38 AM
Oh FFS! We should have a full ban on the damn thing.Quote from: "RW"
In any public arena. Citizenship, driver's licenses, oaths, courts.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:02:18 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:02:18 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
I don't know. I know a lot of bars in Saskatchewan ban hoodies. But, there's no drinking on the street, so....I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:06:36 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:06:36 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:11:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:11:14 AM
Why do they ban hoodies?Quote from: "RW"
They don't where you live? It's usually in dive bars and it's for security reasons. It's easy to conceal your identity if you go into a bar to kill someone if your appearance is covered with a hoodie.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:12:43 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:12:43 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:14:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:14:38 AM
We don't have that problem here at all.Quote from: "RW"
Saskatchewan has high rates of violent crime, particularly murder.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:19:05 AM
Post by: RW on September 25, 2015, 01:19:05 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:25:40 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:25:40 AM
Ahhhh. We don't where I live. More reason to ban head coverings!Quote from: "RW"
I can see the logic. Should someone be allowed to wear this in public at any other time besides Halloween night?
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: cc on September 25, 2015, 01:44:00 AM
Post by: cc on September 25, 2015, 01:44:00 AM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
I don't know. I know a lot of bars in Saskatchewan ban hoodies. But, there's no drinking on the street, so....I don't know about that.
I'm with RDuya all the way on this one. And the survey however it was done is so one sided. Clearly we are not alone
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:55:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 01:55:49 AM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
I don't know. I know a lot of bars in Saskatchewan ban hoodies. But, there's no drinking on the street, so....I don't know about that.
I'm with RDuya all the way on this one. And the survey however it was done is so one sided. Clearly we are not alone
In public buildings, we all agree. We are not that much apart on public streets either.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: cc on September 25, 2015, 02:13:02 AM
Post by: cc on September 25, 2015, 02:13:02 AM
Even those who did not want to wear the garb have little to no alternative. Even family perpetuate it and scorn kin who complain
To be part of a devout family let alone mated to a devout is a hell made palatable / salved only by total acceptance and total support for the practice and personal worthlessness within the victim's mind .. a forever Stockholm Syndrome is the only way to stay sane and survive
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: J0E on September 25, 2015, 05:01:07 AM
Post by: J0E on September 25, 2015, 05:01:07 AM
They needed to poll for that?Quote from: "RW"
Hey, I heard a NDP party member argue it was against Canadian values.:crazy:
The party leaders were arguing about it in last nights french language debate:
....should be interesting how this will affect party popularity in quebec, a crucial battleground for thr NDP if it hopes to win the election.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 10:08:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 10:08:33 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Frood on September 25, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
Post by: Frood on September 25, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 10:30:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2015, 10:30:16 AM
I don't have a problem with face coverings. We should all be wearing more of them these days but for different reasons.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
ok
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Frood on September 26, 2015, 05:34:09 AM
Post by: Frood on September 26, 2015, 05:34:09 AM
I don't have a problem with face coverings. We should all be wearing more of them these days but for different reasons.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
ok:icon_wink:
What's the wink for, Fash? I'm serious.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 10:34:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2015, 10:34:15 AM
I don't have a problem with face coverings. We should all be wearing more of them these days but for different reasons.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
ok:icon_wink:
What's the wink for, Fash? I'm serious.ac_biggrin
I thought you were joking about the appearance of people.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: westcoastguy on September 26, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
Post by: westcoastguy on September 26, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
The leaders should all pledge to ban trick or treating. When Lord will our political representatives ban this security risk.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:03:17 PM
Post by: RW on September 26, 2015, 12:03:17 PM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
The leaders should all pledge to ban trick or treating. When Lord will our political representatives ban this security risk.
Ya because Halloween is comparable to misogynist religious practises.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: J0E on September 26, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
Post by: J0E on September 26, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
On the street...Quote from: "RW"
The leaders should all pledge to ban trick or treating. When Lord will our political representatives ban this security risk.
Ya because Halloween is comparable to misogynist religious practises.:001_rolleyes:
Why do you feel that face coverings for women are misogynistic, 'Real?
Please cite some examples to justify your statements as there are numerous Muslim women who disagree with you.
How do you counter the assertions of Muslim women that their Western counterparts are oppressed because they are exploited by men for their looks and expected to live up to a norm of false expectations?
Answer me on that, eh 'Real.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Annie on September 27, 2015, 03:43:26 AM
Post by: Annie on September 27, 2015, 03:43:26 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
What about pass ports? how do they get around that? i mean the first time i had mine done my picture was like a centimeter off that stupid square and the bitch denied it and i had to have it re taken.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: J0E on September 27, 2015, 08:20:39 AM
Post by: J0E on September 27, 2015, 08:20:39 AM
So I'll give my take. From a male viewpoint, I think the veil which covers the face and even the hair in Islam is an ugly garment. Even though some Muslim women claim that it 'liberates' them, it seems so oppressive.
I think whomever dreamed up the idea did so to denote the right of men to possess women like some material object. If it was Mohammed, then he must've been a very jealous and possessive man. "Don't look at my women! She's mine!", seems to be the message that the burka or the niqab conveys to other men. And the idea that a rich man such as the Prophet could own many wives while a poor man could usually have only one denotes huge classs inequality in Islam.
But I'd still be interested to hear why the niqab is misogynistic from a woman's pov, while others strongly defend it and think otherwise.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Post by: keeper on September 27, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Anyways, our RW never answered my question.Quote from: "Frank"
So I'll give my take. From a male viewpoint, I think the veil which covers the face and even the hair in Islam is an ugly garment. Even though some Muslim women claim that it 'liberates' them, it seems so oppressive.
I think whomever dreamed up the idea did so to denote the right of men to possess women like some material object. If it was Mohammed, then he must've been a very jealous and possessive man. "Don't look at my women! She's mine!", seems to be the message that the burka or the niqab conveys to other men. And the idea that a rich man such as the Prophet could own many wives while a poor man could usually have only one denotes huge classs inequality in Islam.
But I'd still be interested to hear why the niqab is misogynistic from a woman's pov, while others strongly defend it and think otherwise.
If it serves a purpose for them who gives a shit.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2015, 11:55:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2015, 11:55:50 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Thiel on September 30, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
Post by: Thiel on September 30, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 10:51:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 10:51:50 AM
I fully support a ban on niqabs while taking the citizenship oath.Quote from: "Jimmy LaSalvia"
Hi Jimmy LaSalvia..
I disagree, but it's nice to see you here again.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: cc on September 30, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
Post by: cc on September 30, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
Miss the point or what?
Face covers of any kind have no place in Canada in ANY situation.
The fact that it is to protect male dominance (i.e. misogyny) over women and to make them lower class citizens controlled by males makes if even more heinous.
Amazingly and against all that Canada
By allowing such a medieval "controlling" travesty to exist within our borders at all, anywhere at any time, Canada has sold out what it
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 02:23:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 02:23:26 PM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on September 30, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on September 30, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
All ceremonies have histories that go back to earlier times.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: cc on September 30, 2015, 03:46:04 PM
Post by: cc on September 30, 2015, 03:46:04 PM
Makes sense with this typical illogical leftloon characteristic
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
He got the point .. but he didn't get the pointQuote from: "cc la femme"
ac_smile
Makes sense with this typical illogical leftloon characteristic
If Lance has a point, he is not communicating it well.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: cc on October 05, 2015, 12:40:46 AM
Post by: cc on October 05, 2015, 12:40:46 AM
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on October 05, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
Post by: RW on October 05, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
cc, how do you counter the argument regarding retaining women's freedom to choose what they wear?
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 05, 2015, 02:38:21 AM
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 05, 2015, 02:38:21 AM
So I'll give my take. From a male viewpoint, I think the veil which covers the face and even the hair in Islam is an ugly garment.Even though some Muslim women claim that it 'liberates' them,it seems so oppressive.
Because they dont know any better...they are taught from a young age that this is the correct thing to do. Just like muslim boys see their fathers act all controlling and violent while growing up. To them this is "normal". These boys will grow up to be angry and violent while the girls accept it and continue to be brainwashed how this veil is a "good thing".
Im seeing it as an excuse to NOTwant to obey the law (and not having to do with religion or culture) i believe deep down they enjoy being abusive, controlling assholes, as is more fun. Threatening and shooting guns gives them a power trip and makes their smelly cocks hard while they grin and show a mouthful for crooked yellow and brown teeth.
They have no idea we can all live a normal life by controlling our urges and behaviour and act like civilized human beings.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: RW on October 06, 2015, 04:19:30 PM
Post by: RW on October 06, 2015, 04:19:30 PM
I thought it was Gary Oak hiding like the little paranoid pussy he is.Quote from: "RW"
cc, how do you counter the argument regarding retaining women's freedom to choose what they wear?
cc, HALP! This is a hot topic where I'm currently at and although I think I'm making adequate points, I'm wondering if you can guide me worh a few counterpoints on the whole women's freedom of choice point and what we are accomplishing by taking that away.
I've already been called racist in the course of discussions haha.
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
I thought it was Gary Oak hiding like the little paranoid pussy he is.Quote from: "RW"
cc, how do you counter the argument regarding retaining women's freedom to choose what they wear?
For me, having lived in the Middle East and having some knowledge of the language and culture, but little of the religion, my opinions are formed from what I saw. Wearing those covers is anything but a real choice. Besides, why should anyone be allowed to wear anything that would conceal their identity in the public sphere?
Title: Re: Strong Support for Niqab ban at Citizenship Ceremonies
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2015, 08:49:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2015, 08:49:19 PM