Title: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 01:12:21 AM
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 01:12:21 AM
And yet he was an atheist and professed to neither believing in religion nor God.
He said that the Bible was just a fable.
Now I don't know if that's true or not.
But I never totally agreed with him about the existence of God or an Afterlife.
Nor that the Bible is totally untrue, as I've found some nuggets of wisdom in the Bible which I've at least partially agreed with.
Actually, I'd classify myself as 'agnostic'. Not totally sure who is correct and which faith is right.
I think whatever religion any of us chooses to follow seems merely to be a man-made framework which we have devised for ourselves to better understand the world and find meaning in our daily existence. In fact, those who follow a religion may in reality be worshipping the same spirits/gods/god. It may be just a different method of solving the same equation to achieve the exactly the same result. ie - 1+1=2 or 4-2=2 or 2 + 0=2 or 3-1=2 and so on.
Anyways, I thought at times his vision of the world and the afterlife seemed too stark and bleak. and it would surface at times, particularly at family gatherings. We'd all eat at what were essentially Christian holidays without paying deference to them in any way. But I didn't necessarily agree with it. Even if one doesn't pay tribute to a Christian God, then to a spirit would suffice. I know in many other religions/faiths they do.
So lately, I've thought about adopting a faith even though I'm firmly in the camp these days of 'Undecided or Not Sure.' Perhaps it could be thought of as 'an Assurance Marker'?
Is there anything wrong with the stance? What are its shortcomings or strengths? Or does it seem too flimsy and its underpinnings too loose?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: asal on November 15, 2015, 10:16:48 AM
Post by: asal on November 15, 2015, 10:16:48 AM
You won't be doing it sincerely for very long. If you aren't that way already, you're going to end up being yourself in the end Frank.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
IF he did die, then Joe's posting it /
If he didn't, then it's just another Joe tale
Joe is one of those slugs who make up so many things that even if they told a truth ... absent of absolute proof no one can believe it
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
I respect the deceased, including your own. I wish you would do the same.
But perhaps you're not capable of returning such courtesies.
In this regard, you preach and practise a double standard.
You damn yourself.
You want others to sympathize to you, but you show none to others.
Shame on you. But at least you've revealed yourself for who you truly are.
At very least the "vote for me" was EXTREMELY questionable.Quote from: "cc la femme"
IF he did die, then Joe's posting it /using itover and over over and over in multiple threads on multiple forums for attention-on-steroids was DESPICABLE
If he didn't, then it's just another Joe taleHe has done it to himself.
Joe is one of those slugs who make up so many things that even if they told a truth ... absent of absolute proof no one can believe it
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 02:03:12 PM
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 02:03:12 PM
IF he did die, then Joe's posting it /Quote from: "The Point"using it over and over over and over
in multiple threads
on multiple forums
for attention-on-steroidswas DESPICABLE
You didn't MISS the point, you attempted (as always) to obfu
1. Stop making up stories all the time and people could believe you IF or WHEN you told a truth
2. Don't OVERPLAY on steroids and people could believe you IF or WHEN you told a truth
OR just carry on carrying on ... but know that ...
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
And I do so for a child of yours whom you mentioned in another thread.
And I will not cast doubt on your accounts nor aspersions on them.
Now will you do the same for me?
IF he did die, then Joe's posting it /Quote from: "The Point"using it over and over over and over
in multiple threads
on multiple forums
for attention-on-steroidswas DESPICABLE
You didn't MISS the point, you attempted (as always) to obfuSKATEaround it It's really quite simple Joe- consistent story manufacturers are not believed even IF they tell a truth, so ....
1. Stop making up stories all the time and people could believe you IF or WHEN you told a truth
2. Don't OVERPLAY on steroids and people could believe you IF or WHEN you told a truth
OR just carry on carrying on ... but know that ...A person who constantly makes up stories (lies) has no right to expect those familiar with his Modus Operandi to believe him even IF he does tell a truth.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: the shark hunter on November 15, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
Post by: the shark hunter on November 15, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
... my belated condolences on your father's passing by the way ...
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 05:23:26 PM
Post by: cc on November 15, 2015, 05:23:26 PM
And why would I care whatever you might believe?And I will not cast doubt on your accounts ....Quote from: "Ready to try anything"
NOTE: Aspersions caste upon someone does not reflect on anyone other than the person "aspersed" (a new word created, lol).... nor aspersions on them.Quote from: "Continuing to obvuSKATE using hokey ploy"
You didn't "miss the point" - You deliberately tried to divert with a false premise
Now will you do the same for me?Quote from: "Not smart enough to just move along"
I already addressed that
A person who constantly makes up stories (lies) has no right to expect those familiar with his Modus Operandi to believe him even IF he does tell a truth.Quote from: "Previously"
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
...Quote from: "the shark hunter"i thought you were joining the catholic church,Joe. that didn't work out? it would've perhaps been premature if you're unsure about god's existence ...
... my belated condolences on your father's passing by the way ...
Ha, I forgot about that one.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 07:29:39 PM
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 07:29:39 PM
... i thought you were joining the catholic church, Joe. that didn't work out? it would've perhaps been premature if you're unsure about god's existence ...Quote from: "the shark hunter"
... my belated condolences on your father's passing by the way ...
...still not sure, Sharkie.
Initially I thought Catholicism might be an option.
But the more I've looked into it, I have some reservations these days.
Y'know, Adolf Hitler was born and raised a Catholic and he later ushered in one of History's greatest maelstroms - the Holocaust.
Also, the Fascist movement has its roots in large part in the Catholic Church.
Not only are its methods such as the Spanish Inquisition deeply rooted in Catholic Orthodoxy, the Catholic Church itself may have facilitated the rise of dictators such as Mussolini and Hitler.
South America is Catholic, and also has a long tradition of totalitarian governments which tortured or killed their own peoples there. Again, these methods of governance may have their roots in the Spanish Inquisition, and the Jesuits, their soldiers of Christ were not unlike the SS troops of the Nazis in Europe.
So it's a mixed bag. I guess no faith/religion is perfect. They all have their deficits, past closet skeletons.
Anyways, I didn't create the thread to ask for sympathy for my father's passing. But thanks.
But I'm somewhat interested in pursuing a 'realistic' form of spiritualism. Not the hocus-pocus type, but one which has real meaning in our lives and connections with our surroundings. Someone in this forum commented that they were saved after they found Christianity/religion. Perhaps they were. But I'm more inclined to think that it was because they had found others - human beings on this earth - not someone in the Sky or Netherworld who helped them. In other words, religion has little meaning unless it's connected to a person's real situation, and there are others in a community/communal setting who can help them, offer them guidance. Likewise, if you put a person on a mountaintop alone, they could pray all day and night with a Bible or Koran clutched to their side, but would likely die of hunger or exposure by the time they got through the first verse.
In other words, the religion/faith has little meaning unless it has some connection to the person's surroundings. It has to have to be in touch with the reality of that moment or the totality of their existence.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 07:40:53 PM
Post by: J0E on November 15, 2015, 07:40:53 PM
This is a self-serving, craven me-firstism which you've allowed to govern your life.
You related incidents in your life in an effort to garner sympathy.
Yet offer none to others. I've never doubted your accounts of suffering or loss in your family.
Nor have I asked that you provide any evidence to substantiate those accounts.
I have just accepted them, believed them and left it at that.
Myself, I would never mock others in a less fortunate situation, or others in their care who are sick or who have passed on. That is why I have offered my condolences to you, and sympathies to Annie, who in this and the other forum related her family's health difficulties she had recently experienced.
And I will not cast doubt on your accounts ....Quote from: "Ready to try anything"NOTE: Aspersions caste upon someone does not reflect on anyone other than the person "aspersed" (a new word created, lol).... nor aspersions on them.Quote from: "Continuing to obvuSKATE using hokey ploy"But, heh, that was one of your more innovative attempted ploys - and a bit interesting as to why you feel the need to try to get such a ludicrous hokey ploy to fly
You didn't "miss the point" - You deliberately tried to divert with a false premiseNow will you do the same for me?Quote from: "Not smart enough to just move along"
I already addressed thatA person who constantly makes up stories (lies) has no right to expect those familiar with his Modus Operandi to believe him even IF he does tell a truth.Quote from: "Previously"Do you have it straight now? Are we done with your hokey obvuSKATING?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: RW on November 15, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
Post by: RW on November 15, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
You, on the other hand, have demonstrated trustworthiness. Your stories are often unbelievable in that they do not stand up to scrutiny. You only have yourself to blame for that.
At the same time, I want to remind posters that if you believe what a poster tells you, it doesn't make you look badly, it makes that person look badly.
In terms of religion Joe, I suggest you attend a few different services and see which one you enjoy.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: asal on November 15, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
Post by: asal on November 15, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
(I'm not catholic, but I'd like the points).
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: RW on November 16, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
Post by: RW on November 16, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2015, 01:34:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2015, 01:34:04 AM
Joe, it's rather simple to grok - cc has never been called out for weaving tall tales like you have. That gives her a level of credibility that you just don't have. When cc recounts stories of loss in her life, we have no reason to disbelieve the validity of her claims.Quote from: "RW"
You, on the other hand, have demonstrated trustworthiness. Your stories are often unbelievable in that they do not stand up to scrutiny. You only have yourself to blame for that.
At the same time, I want to remind posters that if you believe what a poster tells you, it doesn't make you look badly, it makes that person look badly.
In terms of religion Joe, I suggest you attend a few different services and see which one you enjoy.
I have used handles to troll posters that in my opinion had it coming. However, IF this is a made up story it really crosses the line.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: cc on November 16, 2015, 01:57:33 AM
Post by: cc on November 16, 2015, 01:57:33 AM
if you believe what a poster tells you, it doesn't make you look badly,Quote from: "Wisdom"
it makes that person look badly.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2015, 09:07:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2015, 09:07:55 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Renee on November 16, 2015, 10:44:48 AM
Post by: Renee on November 16, 2015, 10:44:48 AM
Well, I guess as long as the dead guy ain't driven the limo it's pretty harmless.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 03:52:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 03:52:06 AM
Jesus Christ said "Seek and ye shall find".He did many wonderful things for me during his time on earth which I'm grateful for and I'll remember him kindly forever for that.Quote from: "Frank"
And yet he was an atheist and professed to neither believing in religion nor God.
He said that the Bible was just a fable.
Now I don't know if that's true or not.
But I never totally agreed with him about the existence of God or an Afterlife.
Nor that the Bible is totally untrue, as I've found some nuggets of wisdom in the Bible which I've at least partially agreed with.
Actually, I'd classify myself as 'agnostic'. Not totally sure who is correct and which faith is right.
I think whatever religion any of us chooses to follow seems merely to be a man-made framework which we have devised for ourselves to better understand the world and find meaning in our daily existence. In fact, those who follow a religion may in reality be worshipping the same spirits/gods/god. It may be just a different method of solving the same equation to achieve the exactly the same result. ie - 1+1=2 or 4-2=2 or 2 + 0=2 or 3-1=2 and so on.
Anyways, I thought at times his vision of the world and the afterlife seemed too stark and bleak. and it would surface at times, particularly at family gatherings. We'd all eat at what were essentially Christian holidays without paying deference to them in any way. But I didn't necessarily agree with it. Even if one doesn't pay tribute to a Christian God, then to a spirit would suffice. I know in many other religions/faiths they do.
So lately, I've thought about adopting a faith even though I'm firmly in the camp these days of 'Undecided or Not Sure.' Perhaps it could be thought of as 'an Assurance Marker'?
Is there anything wrong with the stance? What are its shortcomings or strengths? Or does it seem too flimsy and its underpinnings too loose?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 03:54:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 03:54:05 AM
I got some points for ya. 5 of them *eyebrow wiggle*Sure. Steal all my Catholic points.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 05:06:40 AM
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 05:06:40 AM
I've used it myself with spectacular results. It works. Lost as much as 30 lbs in less than 4 months.
I lost 15 earlier this year.
Contrary to your preconceived notions, not all calories are created equal, y'know.
Admittedly, I've started ta git a little ponchy lately with the early winter weather and all so I could lose a few extra pounds.
So I'll soon be ditchin' the beer, cookies, potato chips ad embarking on Joe's patented weight loss diet.
Let ya know how it goes, eh Renn?
Frank worries me. I get the idea that he keeps his dead dad in a room in his house like Mrs. Bates and wears his dads clothes and pretends to be both Joe/Frank AND Dad. I can only imagine the conversations between the three. Just imagine all the friends from different cultures, backgrounds and lifestyles they must have that they can discuss.Quote from: "Renee"ac_wot
Well, I guess as long as the dead guy ain't driven the limo it's pretty harmless.:laugh3:
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 07:42:56 AM
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 07:42:56 AM
Say Renn, if you're interested in my patented weight loss diet, I can provide some tips for free.Quote from: "Frank"
I've used it myself with spectacular results. It works. Lost as much as 30 lbs in less than 4 months.
I lost 15 earlier this year.
Contrary to your preconceived notions, not all calories are created equal, y'know.
Admittedly, I've started ta git a little ponchy lately with the early winter weather and all so I could lose a few extra pounds.
So I'll soon be ditchin' the beer, cookies, potato chips ad embarking on Joe's patented weight loss diet.Let ya know how it goes, eh Renn? Frank worries me. I get the idea that he keeps his dead dad in a room in his house like Mrs. Bates and wears his dads clothes and pretends to be both Joe/Frank AND Dad. I can only imagine the conversations between the three. Just imagine all the friends from different cultures, backgrounds and lifestyles they must have that they can discuss.Quote from: "Renee"ac_wot
Well, I guess as long as the dead guy ain't driven the limo it's pretty harmless.:laugh3:
Congratulations, Joe.
But that's more than I need or want to know. No need to keep me in the loop.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
And jes' fer you, I'll extend a one time 10% discount 'til June 30th, 2016.
So sign up today, Renn.
Don't delay, do it today!
You'll be glad ya did.
Say Renn, if you're interested in my patented weight loss diet, I can provide some tips for free.Quote from: "Frank"
I've used it myself with spectacular results. It works. Lost as much as 30 lbs in less than 4 months.
I lost 15 earlier this year.
Contrary to your preconceived notions, not all calories are created equal, y'know.
Admittedly, I've started ta git a little ponchy lately with the early winter weather and all so I could lose a few extra pounds.
So I'll soon be ditchin' the beer, cookies, potato chips ad embarking on Joe's patented weight loss diet.Let ya know how it goes, eh Renn? Frank worries me. I get the idea that he keeps his dead dad in a room in his house like Mrs. Bates and wears his dads clothes and pretends to be both Joe/Frank AND Dad. I can only imagine the conversations between the three. Just imagine all the friends from different cultures, backgrounds and lifestyles they must have that they can discuss.Quote from: "Renee"ac_wot
Well, I guess as long as the dead guy ain't driven the limo it's pretty harmless.:laugh3:
Congratulations, Joe.
But that's more than I need or want to know. No need to keep me in the loop.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
......well Renn, at least when yer up inn Canada next time, don't fergget ta give Joe's Limo a calle. Our driver use the patented 'Velvet Touch' driving techniques. So smooth, so relaxing, it'll be jes' like lying on the sofa. And the seats in the back are softer than a baby's bottom. Even driving over the speed bumps feels like a massage in a sauna.Quote from: "Frank"
And jes' fer you, I'll extend a one time 10% discount 'til June 30th, 2016.
So sign up today, Renn.
Don't delay, do it today!
You'll be glad ya did.
He Joe,
I hope business is not so bad that you need to solicit clients from 3000 miles away.
Thanks but I can get a limo ride that's a little more local.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Clients come far and wide to get the complete 'Velevet Touch' Experience, Renn.
Certainly Much further than 3000 miles.
Heck fer some clientelle, that's just a hop skip jump from the backyard.
Never a shortage of demand 'round hea' Renn!
......well Renn, at least when yer up inn Canada next time, don't fergget ta give Joe's Limo a calle. Our driver use the patented 'Velvet Touch' driving techniques. So smooth, so relaxing, it'll be jes' like lying on the sofa. And the seats in the back are softer than a baby's bottom. Even driving over the speed bumps feels like a massage in a sauna.Quote from: "Frank"
And jes' fer you, I'll extend a one time 10% discount 'til June 30th, 2016.
So sign up today, Renn.
Don't delay, do it today!
You'll be glad ya did.
He Joe,
I hope business is not so bad that you need to solicit clients from 3000 miles away.:laugh:
Thanks but I can get a limo ride that's a little more local.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: RW on November 18, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
Post by: RW on November 18, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
Sure. Steal all my Catholic points.Quote from: "RW"
Are said points redeemable for rosaries, relics, and papal stamps?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 11:03:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 11:03:50 PM
We can put this guy in the reject rodeo anytime now. *hint hint*.Quote from: "Dove"
Why what's done? Even Lanny Lefty does not deserve to be in a cage. Neither of those guys is asking for it the way Odinson or DD were.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 11:21:32 PM
Post by: Renee on November 18, 2015, 11:21:32 PM
We can put this guy in the reject rodeo anytime now. *hint hint*.Quote from: "Dove"
Joe/Frank is harmless. He's just a tad annoying.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: cc on November 18, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
Post by: cc on November 18, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
but a "tad"?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 11:40:39 PM
Post by: J0E on November 18, 2015, 11:40:39 PM
Sure. Steal all my Catholic points.Quote from: "RW"
Are said points redeemable for rosaries, relics, and papal stamps?
well 'Real, the more Catholic women I encounter, I find that rather than this:
they tend to be more like this:
...stern & tough. They have somewhat of a hard edge.
In other words, don't cross them.
It must be a rather conservative and rigid faith.
Of course, it's a generalization but not exactly the benign image of them I once had.
Is my newfound perception somewhat correct?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 11:52:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2015, 11:52:10 PM
Nope! Beauty, oil of gladness, and freedom from captivity. ;)Sure. Steal all my Catholic points.Quote from: "RW"
Are said points redeemable for rosaries, relics, and papal stamps?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 06:54:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 06:54:42 AM
We can put this guy in the reject rodeo anytime now. *hint hint*.Quote from: "Dove"
Why what's done? Even Lanny Lefty does not deserve to be in a cage. Neither of those guys is asking for it the way Odinson or DD were.
Neither of them will be sent to rr Herman.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 09:05:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2015, 09:05:03 PM
Yeah but I keep forgetting he is a troll.Quote from: "Dove"
Which one is a troll?
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 12:53:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 12:53:33 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:00:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:00:08 AM
Both?Quote from: "Dove"
I'm uncomfortable labelling our posters until they give me good reason to..
But, that is only me; other posters are free to speak their minds.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:25:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2015, 04:25:52 AM
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: J0E on November 20, 2015, 04:36:45 AM
Post by: J0E on November 20, 2015, 04:36:45 AM
We can put this guy in the reject rodeo anytime now. *hint hint*.Quote from: "Dove"
Joe/Frank is harmless. He's just a tad annoying.
Ahhh, I jes' like ta kid with you much of the time, Renn.
It gives me a chuckle. Perhaps I overdo it at times and don't know when to quit though.
I find your somewhat bombastic rants/replies to be hilarious at times.
I don't take them that seriously though you have a tendency to overreact.
At times you go ballistic - sometimes the way you express yourself comes out as the mother of all rants to end all rants.
I dunno. For some reason, you remind me of an online persona of Roseanne Barr.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Renee on November 20, 2015, 07:23:33 AM
Post by: Renee on November 20, 2015, 07:23:33 AM
We can put this guy in the reject rodeo anytime now. *hint hint*.Quote from: "Dove"
Joe/Frank is harmless. He's just a tad annoying.
Ahhh, I jes' like ta kid with you much of the time, Renn.
It gives me a chuckle. Perhaps I overdo it at times and don't know when to quit though.
I find your somewhat bombastic rants/replies to be hilarious at times.
I don't take them that seriously though you have a tendency to overreact.
At times you go ballistic - sometimes the way you express yourself comes out as the mother of all rants to end all rants.
I dunno. For some reason, you remind me of an online persona of Roseanne Barr.
As always, you think too much and not in a good way.
It borders somewhat on obsession but not enough to be truly disturbing. But don't let my opinion of you deter you. Keep up the hard work and you'll get there eventually.
Title: Re: My Father was an Atheist
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2015, 04:10:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2015, 04:10:39 AM
BTW I wasn't serious about putting him in the cage lolQuote from: "Dove"
That's good Dove..
That option should not be used to flippantly.