...does it outright condemn them?
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Frank,
Ur not thinking about converting to a ped or a wife beater are ya?
... we don't base anything we do on what the bible says. it's not where we get our moral code from ...
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Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Frank,
Ur not thinking about converting to a ped or a wife beater are ya?
No Shen. But I wonder if the lack of prohibitions in our Society's moral code for all these centuries led to the situation we have today. For example, the Catholic Church's problem with pedophile priests - is that the Bible may have failed to condemn this kind of behavior, therefore, the Church's converts thought it was OK?
Or wife beating. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think there may even be a passage in the Old Testament, in which one of its characters encourages this practice. Mind you, those were Ancient Times so it wasn't considered illegal back then.
But since it wasn't outright condemned, this way of thinking may have infected our Society today.
^You still on about the Catholic church Frank. Who fucking cares what that dinosaur organization thinks about anything.
Joey, Google is your friend. We are not
Quote from: "cc la femme"
OMG! I damn near fell out of my chair! ac_lmfao
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Well cc, I always have to put up with a barrage of your rabid paranoid rantings about coming Islam, so perhaps you ought to show some consideration for others, and put up with them too, eh?
By the way, do you still feel unsafe in your Fortress White Rock along 0 Avenue with scores of Homeland Security Agents a stone's throw away from your house, cc?
Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Kiddy diddlers and wife beaters should be shot. If it's not in the bible, it should be.
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Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Kiddy diddlers and wife beaters should be shot. If it's not in the bible, it should be.
It doesn't Herman.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Kiddy diddlers and wife beaters should be shot. If it's not in the bible, it should be.
They didn't have guns when the bible was written.
Derp.
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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Frank"
Or does it condone that kind of behavior?
Or say nothing?
I somewhat wonder given the high amount of either that we have in Western societies.
Not that any other culture is different or better, but just wondering if the lack of protection for those individuals affected in our moral code has led to the situation we have in society today.
ie - maybe there is so much a problem with pedophiles in the Catholic Church is that the Bible never outright condemned or prohibited it?
Or Wife Beating the same?
anyways, was curious, like to read some feedback about it.
Kiddy diddlers and wife beaters should be shot. If it's not in the bible, it should be.
They didn't have guns when the bible was written.
Derp.
Yeah, because you can only shoot people with guns. :001_rolleyes:
For someone who has been around since Ramsses II freed the fucking slaves, you would think you would have heard of the bow and arrow.
Derp. :oeudC:
I'm not aware of the bow and arrow being used for executions, due to their poor stopping power and inaccuracy.
Although that wouldn't be a factor in your case.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
:001_rolleyes:
Quote from: "the shark hunter"
Well, I'm in a slight, but friendly disagreement with you, Sharkie.
Much of our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian principles.
ie - Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, covet they neighbor's wife, etc.
So the influence the way the laws are constructed and people in our society behave.
Likewise, the Koran has greatly influenced how people living under Islamic laws behave as well.
Some within Islam believe that while sexual relations between man and women are taboo among Muslims, this excludes acts between a Muslim male and an infidel or non-Muslim woman in a time of war.
In other words, forcible acts - rape.
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So some extremists/fundamentalists have taken it upon themselves to state that they are in a state of Holy War with the West (jihad) and this gives license to rape Western Women even in their homelands such as Europe, because they are not Muslim. I know it seems perverse and perhaps Muslims don't want to talk about it. However, it is an example of how a Holy Book can influence written laws and their followers' behavior.
Likewise, because the Bible did not specifically state that wife beating is prohibited, some men who call themselves Christians feel they can morally justify physical abuse of their wives. Like most, I feel this is wrong, but it demonstrates the link between religious writings and the shaping of laws of social behaviors.
Crow and Renee, clearly you need to brush up on your bible. They stoned and crucified people.
Double DERP!
Quote from: "RW"
Double DERP!
How does crucifixion or stoning relate to execution of pedophiles by "
:oeudC:
The Bible says help the poor and needy. ac_biggrin
Here is some of what the Bible says about domestic violence and abuse:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/domestic_violence_and_abuse
Colossians 3:19 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Psalm 11:5 ESV
The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.
2 Timothy 3:1-8 ESV
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. ...
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 ESV
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Peter 3:7 ESV
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Galatians 5:19-21 ESV
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 4:29-32 ESV
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
Quote from: "Frank"
Quote from: "the shark hunter"
Well, I'm in a slight, but friendly disagreement with you, Sharkie.
Much of our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian principles.
... those are the laws of the lawyers, Joe. i stand by my statement ...
Quote from: "RW"
Double DERP!
And still do.
But you need to stop shooting your mouth!!!
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Here is some of what the Bible says about domestic violence and abuse:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/domestic_violence_and_abuse
Colossians 3:19 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Psalm 11:5 ESV
The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.
2 Timothy 3:1-8 ESV
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. ...
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 ESV
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Peter 3:7 ESV
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Galatians 5:19-21 ESV
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 4:29-32 ESV
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
Oh great, quoting from the bible. :oeudC:
To show Frank who needed assistance, Shen. It's not for you to take in. So you can relax. I'm no church lady, as you know. I may have posted it for Frank but it's not something I live by. I'm a sinner saved by grace. :wink: ac_biggrin
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Good to know AA. For a second, I thought we were losing you to the other side. ac_wot
Been there, done that, Shen. Whether we really do face the Big Guy at the end, so be it. I will answer for all my thoughts, words, and deeds. :laugh3:
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Here is some of what the Bible says about domestic violence and abuse:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/domestic_violence_and_abuse
Colossians 3:19 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Psalm 11:5 ESV
The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.
2 Timothy 3:1-8 ESV
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. ...
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 ESV
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Peter 3:7 ESV
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Galatians 5:19-21 ESV
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 4:29-32 ESV
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
Boom.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Although that wouldn't be a factor in your case.
There are a lot of things you aren't aware of. For starters, like the fact that you are a buffoon as well as a moron. You run off at the mouth like an idiot every chance you get and it has never been more evident than in your previous post.
The bow in the hands of an experienced archer is NOT inaccurate and it has plenty of "stopping power". Even bows in biblical times were used as front line battle weapons with the ability to pierce the body armor of the time. In the middle ages the bow really came into its own. For example, during the battle of Agincourt in 1415 where English long bowman cut down the flower of French nobility despite the fact that the French were wearing plate armor. I don't really need to continue because you already look like a fool.
Once again you ran your mouth without really knowing the slightest thing about which you speak. Stick to what you know and are good at, like being a prissy, twat and a tantrum throwing, little baby.
Once again, you display the American cultural trait of shooting off your mouth before checking that your brain is loaded.
The discussion, such as it was, related to bows in biblical times.
It is unsurprising that Wikipedia disagrees with your assertation; "Projectile weapons were used by the ancient Egyptians as standoff artillery, used to soften up the enemy before an infantry assault. Slings, throw sticks, spears, and javelins were used, but the bow and arrow was the primary projectile weapon for most of Egypt's history."
See, unlike you, it relies on fact, not fat to win argument.
I repeat, against my informed judgment, that we are talking about implements of execution. Not weapons of war.
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Although that wouldn't be a factor in your case.
There are a lot of things you aren't aware of. For starters, like the fact that you are a buffoon as well as a moron. You run off at the mouth like an idiot every chance you get and it has never been more evident than in your previous post.
The bow in the hands of an experienced archer is NOT inaccurate and it has plenty of "stopping power". Even bows in biblical times were used as front line battle weapons with the ability to pierce the body armor of the time. In the middle ages the bow really came into its own. For example, during the battle of Agincourt in 1415 where English long bowman cut down the flower of French nobility despite the fact that the French were wearing plate armor. I don't really need to continue because you already look like a fool.
Once again you ran your mouth without really knowing the slightest thing about which you speak. Stick to what you know and are good at, like being a prissy, twat and a tantrum throwing, little baby.
My ex bf was a hunter. He liked using a crossbow and brought down bull elk with it. They are accurate and powerful.
And cruel.