... holy smokes! i found out yesterday that the bus that went from powell river to vancouver stopped in september!
... this is devastating for our town and it leaves many people stranded: youth, students, people who don't drive (me), and especially medical patients! thanks christy!
... the government has an obligation to step in and reinstate a bus service as quickly as possible ...
... do you have a bus service to vancouver from where you live that people rely on?
... comments about this?
Sorry to hear that Sharkie.
Was it a public or private service for the residents of your town?
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Was it a public or private service for the residents of your town?
... it was private, Frank ...
What does that have to do with the government?
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... well, they do administer transportation in the province. and if they've got two ferries on the route (which they do) they should provide a bus for foot passengers. if private business can't handle it anymore a responsible government would step in to help ...
... thanks for your reply ...
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I know in some provinces, that Greyhound has a deal with government. How it works is they get a monopoly on milk runs between bigger cities, but in return they have to service remote communities.
They don't manage all transportation such as Greyhound.
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No, I don't mean some provincial governments manage Greyhound. I mean they limit competition on some runs in exchange for service on others.
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I know in some provinces, that Greyhound has a deal with government. How it works is they get a monopoly on milk runs between bigger cities, but in return they have to service remote communities.
I think it was like that in Alberta Herman, but now we have Red Arrow which runs from Fort McMurray to Lethbridge..
They have nicer buses and charge more though.
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... they do to some extent, RW. they regulate the industry and issue the license the bus company holds ...
That doesn't mean they can dictate which routes they have to run.
I think Greyhound may be on its way out.
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... as Herman said above, a route arrangement could be part of the license agreement ...
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I think Greyhound may be on its way out.
They did here up until about 2008. I'm not sure what arrangement, if any, they have now with the provincial government.
... don't get me wrong, i do get RW's point that the hands-on administration of privately run bus services is NOT the responsibility of the government ...
... but before you say "what does bus transportation have to do with the government?" keep in mind that the crown IS in the bus transportation business and is BY FAR the biggest provider of bus transport in the land. therefore it's not unusual to expect that they would provide service on the sunshine coast to vancouver route ...
I sympathize a lot with the problem sharky, but is it that "the crown IS in the bus transportation business and is BY FAR the biggest provider of bus transport in the land" ?
or is it that govt "regulates" service?. There is a great distinction between the 2
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or is it that govt "regulates" service?. There is a great distinction between the 2
... both. i think you know that too ... :icon_wink:
I'm on your side. I think you should have service.
I know nothing for sure about who owns buses and runs lines, except for some obvious companies
Does the govt. "provide" runs? and if so where and under what circumstances and by what means?
I suppose the govt. could "subsidize" some runs where needed but are not economically viable for private business which is not in business to lose money.
Do they?
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I know nothing for sure about who owns buses and runs lines, except for some obvious companies
Does the govt. "provide" runs? and if so where and under what circumstances and by what means?
Do they?
... yes, the government has extensive bus operations. where? in all towns and cities ...
True. Some cities do run local service "within" cities. Some farm it out.
They do not usually run service "between" cities anywhere in N America that I know of.
You may know of some exceptions??.
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... actually they do, cc. although sometimes you need to transfer to a different bus ...
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I know nothing for sure about who owns buses and runs lines, except for some obvious companies
Does the govt. "provide" runs? and if so where and under what circumstances and by what means?
I suppose the govt. could "subsidize" some runs where needed but are not economically viable for private business which is not in business to lose money.
Do they?
Having a regularly scheduled service with no passengers is expensive. Even here in Edmonton, I see buses driving around on weekends with 1 or 2 passengers. How is that good for climate change or prudent use of tax dollars?
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They do not usually run service "between" cities anywhere in N America that I know of.
You may know of some exceptions??.
In my area, there are many routes that span between cities. Keep in mind what passes for a city around here and the short distance between them.
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They do not usually run service "between" cities anywhere in N America that I know of.
You may know of some exceptions??.
In my area, there are many routes that span between cities. Keep in mind what passes for a city around here and the short distance between them.
Do you have other carriers besides GH?