Title: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:04:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:04:02 PM
The bylaw was passed unanimously by city council in a vote Monday night. It was championed by Our Horizon, a not-for-profit that called the vote an "historic global first."
Our Horizons founder Rob Shirkey told the CBC other Canadian and U.S. cities are supporting similar warnings, but North Vancouver is the first city to make the labels mandatory.
Officials hope to have the stickers on all city gas pumps by early 2016. Gas stations will need to maintain them in order to keep their business licence.
"The message is that burning fossil fuels causes climate change and ... to add a positive spin, here are some tips when using your automobile on how to make it more fuel efficient," North Vancouver Mayor David Musatto told the CBC.
City officials hope the warnings will make people more aware of the link between burning fossil fuels and climate change while inspiring them to conserve fuel.
"I couldn't live without my vehicle, but I can certainly reduce the number of trips I do use it for," Musatto said.
City staff are in the process of designing the stickers, which will be approved by council within the next few months.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:06:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:06:18 PM
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: J0E on November 27, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
Post by: J0E on November 27, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
Remember, doubling the population also doubles the gas emissions too, because now there's at least twice as many consumers using up twice as many of the planet's resources including gas.
Sorry to be so blunt Fash, but had ta tell it like it is.
If we want to cut the growth of one number, have to cut the other in half too.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:21:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 09:21:48 PM
...and maybe they'll invest in some of these stickers too....Quote from: "Frank"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.ibanet.org/ImageHandler.ashx?ImageUid=616eba36-966d-4713-b3e0-ce430f137fdc%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.ibanet.org/ImageHandler.ashx%20...%20430f137fdc%22%3Ehttp://www.ibanet.org/ImageHandler.ashx?ImageUid=616eba36-966d-4713-b3e0-ce430f137fdc%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Remember, doubling the population also doubles the gas emissions too, because now there's at least twice as many consumers using up twice as many of the planet's resources including gas.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/images/science/ScenarioTempGraph.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/image%20...%20pGraph.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/images/science/ScenarioTempGraph.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Sorry to be so blunt Fash, but had ta tell it like it is.
If we want to cut the growth of one number, have to cut the other in half too.
There's no need to apologise Frank..
I have heard the population control argument before.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 10:22:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2015, 10:22:13 PM
Proposed warning label samplesQuote from: "Fashionista"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah68/csantamaria/climatechangewarning_zpsqjdgnchl.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah6%20...%20dgnchl.png%22%3Ehttp://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah68/csantamaria/climatechangewarning_zpsqjdgnchl.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
How the fuck are the city hall clowns getting around? Are they sending a message in a fucking nozzle?
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 12:11:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 12:11:59 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Won't making those stickers generate emissions?
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 12:48:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 12:48:23 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Won't making those stickers generate emissions?
They don't give a flying fuck about that and never did. it's about demonizing a product with thousands of applications that help mankind live longer and better, but they treat it like cigarettes. Gawd help us, cuz we could use it.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 09:53:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2015, 09:53:08 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Won't making those stickers generate emissions?
They don't give a flying fuck about that and never did. it's about demonizing a product with thousands of applications that help mankind live longer and better, but they treat it like cigarettes. Gawd help us, cuz we could use it.
Everything keeps going up, but especially taxes.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: the shark hunter on November 29, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
Post by: the shark hunter on November 29, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2015, 08:11:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2015, 08:11:45 PM
... the canadian government is engaged in war with private business. north van is an EXTREMELY authoritarian territory ...Quote from: "the shark hunter"
All Western governments are engaged in war with average people. The excuse is climate change.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Bricktop on November 29, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 29, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
All Western governments are engaged in war with average people.
Amen, sister!!!
No truer word spoken.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: asal on November 29, 2015, 10:22:27 PM
Post by: asal on November 29, 2015, 10:22:27 PM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: RW on November 30, 2015, 12:21:03 AM
Post by: RW on November 30, 2015, 12:21:03 AM
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Bricktop on November 30, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 30, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
So, you will ride your bike in -20F to the mall to do your grocery shopping with your 4 kids?
You'll ride your bike to Mexico on your next holiday?
Your next date will pick you up to take you to dinner on his bike?
Fuck, you two wheelers are so sanctimoniously DUMB. Bikes are NO answer to modern transport demands, except for looney foil hat wearers who think they are saving the planet while simultaneously creating a major hazard on our roads.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
So, you will ride your bike in -20F to the mall to do your grocery shopping with your 4 kids?
You'll ride your bike to Mexico on your next holiday?
Your next date will pick you up to take you to dinner on his bike?
Fuck, you two wheelers are so sanctimoniously DUMB. Bikes are NO answer to modern transport demands, except for looney foil hat wearers who think they are saving the planet while simultaneously creating a major hazard on our roads.
It's not an option for my family Mr Crowley.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
You might feel physically better about riding your bike or walking, but it has no impact on climate change. I like to walk when I can, but when I cannot there is no need to feel guilty about it. Labels on the pump are a meaningless campaign. Another cost that is passed on to us for no reason at all.
People need to start demanding exactly how much new costs or taxes will translate into slowing down climate change. If they cannot answer that, they should not get to charge us more.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:02:13 AM
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:02:13 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
So, you will ride your bike in -20F to the mall to do your grocery shopping with your 4 kids?
You'll ride your bike to Mexico on your next holiday?
Your next date will pick you up to take you to dinner on his bike?
Fuck, you two wheelers are so sanctimoniously DUMB. Bikes are NO answer to modern transport demands, except for looney foil hat wearers who think they are saving the planet while simultaneously creating a major hazard on our roads.
fuck, you four wheelers are so self-servingly DUMB. Bikes are YES answer to 19th century transport demands, except for toonie foil hat washers who know they are saving the planet while simultaneously being a major hazard on our planet.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:05:00 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
You might feel physically better about riding your bike or walking, but it has no impact on climate change. I like to walk when I can, but when I cannot there is no need to feel guilty about it. Labels on the pump are a meaningless campaign. Another cost that is passed on to us for no reason at all.
People need to start demanding exactly how much new costs or taxes will translate into slowing down climate change. If they cannot answer that, they should not get to charge us more.
It doesn't have much of an impact. But, a very small one at least. And I got strong legs and bum from it. Really strong because I had to ride up and down hills. I also improved my cardio. It felt good to ride - it was fun, great to be out in the air. I'll get back on the bike in Spring.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:07:13 AM
Post by: asal on December 01, 2015, 01:07:13 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
No problem dogmatic dunce. Thanks for ignoring the warnings that you're being softly introduced to and persist in ignoring. If it was up to dick heads like you no one would believe a word of science and we'd have a lifespan of about what we have now since you are informing history.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:08:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:08:43 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
You might feel physically better about riding your bike or walking, but it has no impact on climate change. I like to walk when I can, but when I cannot there is no need to feel guilty about it. Labels on the pump are a meaningless campaign. Another cost that is passed on to us for no reason at all.
People need to start demanding exactly how much new costs or taxes will translate into slowing down climate change. If they cannot answer that, they should not get to charge us more.
It doesn't have much of an impact. But, a very small one at least. And I got strong legs and bum from it. Really strong because I had to ride up and down hills. I also improved my cardio. It felt good to ride - it was fun, great to be out in the air. I'll get back on the bike in Spring.
It's good for exercise, but that's about it. Whether you and all your friends drive or not will have no affect on climate one way or another.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:18:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:18:37 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
No problem dogmatic dunce. Thanks for ignoring the warnings that you're being softly introduced to and persist in ignoring. If it was up to dick heads like you no one would believe a word of science and we'd have a lifespan of about what we have now since you are informing history.
Where is Shen Li ignoring "science"? She's right, everything you use has got oil in it. That is not going to change in our lifetimes nor should it.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:21:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:21:55 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
So, you will ride your bike in -20F to the mall to do your grocery shopping with your 4 kids?
You'll ride your bike to Mexico on your next holiday?
Your next date will pick you up to take you to dinner on his bike?
Fuck, you two wheelers are so sanctimoniously DUMB. Bikes are NO answer to modern transport demands, except for looney foil hat wearers who think they are saving the planet while simultaneously creating a major hazard on our roads.
fuck, you four wheelers are so self-servingly DUMB. Bikes are YES answer to 19th century transport demands, except for toonie foil hat washers who know they are saving the planet while simultaneously being a major hazard on our planet.
What is a major hazard to our planet? Internal combustion engine vehicles? Not since the invention of the catalytic converter.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
No problem dogmatic dunce. Thanks for ignoring the warnings that you're being softly introduced to and persist in ignoring. If it was up to dick heads like you no one would believe a word of science and we'd have a lifespan of about what we have now since you are informing history.
Where is Shen Li ignoring "science"? She's right, everything you use has got oil in it. That is not going to change in our lifetimes nor should it.
If there's nothing we can do as individuals to stop climate change, what should we do collectively?
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:38:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 01:38:09 AM
This produces tangible results unlike cycling vs driving.
Beyond that, governments need to move away from emissions target cuts and on to adapting changes in climate. We also need to stop the rapid deforestation of carbon sinks like in Indonesia and Brazil.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 03:29:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 03:29:17 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
No problem dogmatic dunce. Thanks for ignoring the warnings that you're being softly introduced to and persist in ignoring. If it was up to dick heads like you no one would believe a word of science and we'd have a lifespan of about what we have now since you are informing history.
Where is Shen Li ignoring "science"? She's right, everything you use has got oil in it. That is not going to change in our lifetimes nor should it.
Careful using logic, engineering or science on someone with the IQ of a refrigerator.
Title: Re: North Vancouver makes climate change warning stickers mandatory at gas pumps
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 09:02:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2015, 09:02:00 AM
You Canadians are fucking crazy.Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And what, pray tell, do the proponents of this inanity expect to achieve?
"Wait...if I fill up, the moose will die? Fuck it. I'm walking."
Yes.
It would work on me.
I feel better about riding my bike, taking transit and walking.
People should think twice when filling their tank.
Thanks a lot for drinking the Kool Aid we're being force fed. If it was up to dick heads like you we'd all be living in sod huts and have a lifespan of about 45 years of age which means you'd already be history. Remember dunce, your shoes, your bike and the bus have petroleum in them.
No problem dogmatic dunce. Thanks for ignoring the warnings that you're being softly introduced to and persist in ignoring. If it was up to dick heads like you no one would believe a word of science and we'd have a lifespan of about what we have now since you are informing history.
Where is Shen Li ignoring "science"? She's right, everything you use has got oil in it. That is not going to change in our lifetimes nor should it.
Careful using logic, engineering or science on someone with the IQ of a refrigerator.
The insults are unnecessary Shen Li.