Here's one sad man's tale which has made me consider this idea....
One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Yes, I would like to see it become more difficult to get married and divorced.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
2 of his children are still living at home with the mother.
They are over the age of 18.
She appears to want them to stay with her, otherwise if they move out, then she will lose the benefit of the child support.
She works, has a job which pays more than her ex husband.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
Maybe there is more than one child.
He had 8 children.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
Maybe there is more than one child.
Real men pay their child support.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
Back child support maybe? Long standing arrears? They will get you either way.
I believe we have alimony but I'm not sure. I know a spouse can be entitled to portions of a divorced spouse's pension benefits.
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One of my friends who is divorced still owes his Ex-Wife/Province of British Columbia in Canada over $40,000 in child support
..and he hasn't slept with or been with her for nearly 20 years.
And he's paid over $300,000 so far.
The courts really struck it to him & have made him pay - Big Time.
He's gonna be paying this debt until he dies.
He related these details when I went to see him and his present wife last night.
Even she sided with him, and thought the system is out of whack with his situation and reality.
He can't even get a driver's license as the province took it away, so his present wife drives him everywhere.
He can't have a passport either as he's considered a flight risk who will leave the country and shirk his responsibilities.
It used to be that marriage meant til death do us part.
Now, it seems that divorce/alimony/child support is they only thing a man can hope to take to the grave.
Anyways, his ex has really stuck it to him and now is sure making him pay for his misery.
Oh well.
Reference?
Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application.
If a man fails to pay child support, he rightfully gets income garnished, and can be prevented from decamping overseas (Only if in default).
It seems odd that he has been paying for 20 years. What's he paying for? Child support for adults?
Back child support maybe? Long standing arrears? They will get you either way.
I believe we have alimony but I'm not sure.
I heard that.
For every screwed over divorced father there is probably at least double that number of screwed over mothers raising children alone from failed unions. While I believe the courts can be somewhat biased toward mothers and children, its the men who thought they were going to be free and clear of their responsibilities by divorcing their spouse who are the real problem.
I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
Divorce is such an ugly thing Renee, even when it's necessary..
We have several divorced families in our church and they are the ones I know of..
It should be harder to get married.
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
Divorce is such an ugly thing Renee, even when it's necessary..
We have several divorced families in our church and they are the ones I know of..
How so?
If you have to be separated from someone for over a year before you can divorce, maybe you should have to be with someone for over a year before you can get married.
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
Divorce is such an ugly thing Renee, even when it's necessary..
We have several divorced families in our church and they are the ones I know of..
How so?
I was wondering that too.
How would that be accomplished? Minimum age and length of relationship requirements? Proof of financial means? Compatibility testing? Lie detector tests?
Ironically, the new Divorce laws can be as much as a trap for the women as the men.
Women with wealth are finding themselves trapped in having to make large alimony payments to their exes as well:
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The judge overseeing the case granted Anne's request, at least in part, when she was given a reprieve yesterday from making the next payment — which would have covered the month of July. Anne, who turns 39 later this month, was ordered to provide detailed income and expense information to the court going forward.
It is somewhat similar to a case in Canada, where Nickelback band member Chad Kroeger is paying $10,000 a month to an ex-girlfriend, a hairdresser whom he had a relationship with but no children:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/music/nickelbacks-kroeger-ordered-to-pay-ex-25000-a-month/article580957/
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The ruling is temporary until the final amount is determined at trial, currently scheduled for August.
Kroeger, 36, and Marianne Goriuk, 40, separated in September 2009 after a relationship that spanned almost seven years. They met at a Nickelback concert in Edmonton in 2002.
Kroeger had been paying Goriuk $10,000 a month, but she argued that wasn't enough, considering the couple's lavish lifestyle during their relationship and Kroeger's annual income of roughly $9.7 million.
She had asked for about $96,000 a month.
....point being, regardless of gender, once they are no longer married or living together, any financial compensation beyond a substantial one time setup payment should end. Making an ex pay to another ex, is the equivalent of receiving a handsome inheritance, spending it all, and then expecting the dead person to ante up from the grave and keep paying the recipient more, because they demanded it from them.
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
About spousal support
The federal Divorce Act sets out the spousal support rules for married couples who divorce. Since the Divorce Act is a federal law, the rules apply across Canada.
Provincial or territorial laws set out the rules for unmarried couples who were in a common-law relationship and for married couples who separate but who are not divorcing.
Under the federal Divorce Act, spousal support is most likely to be paid when there is a big difference between the spouses' incomes after they separate. However, this is not always the case. A court may decide that the spouse with the lower income is not entitled to support. The court may reach this decision if that spouse has a lot of assets, or if the difference in income cannot be traced to anything that happened during the relationship.
Under provincial law, common-law partners in Quebec are not entitled to spousal support when they separate. (In Quebec, common-law partners are usually referred to as "de facto spouses.") In other provinces and territories, a common-law partner may be eligible for spousal support from the other partner. This may depend on how long the couple lived together before they separated. For example, in some provinces and territories a common-law couple must live together for two or three years before either partner is eligible for spousal support.
Provincial and territorial rules vary across Canada. You are encouraged to check the website of your provincial or territorial Ministry of Justice or Attorney General for this information or you may contact a lawyer.
Factors judges consider
Judges must consider a number of factors when deciding if a spouse should get support after a divorce. These factors include:
the financial means and needs of both spouses;
the length of the marriage;
the roles of each spouse during their marriage;
the effect of those roles and the breakdown of the marriage on both spouses' current financial positions;
the care of the children;
the goal of encouraging a spouse who receives support to be self-sufficient in a reasonable period of time; and
any orders, agreements or arrangements already made about spousal support.
Judges must also consider whether spousal support would meet the following purposes:
to compensate the spouse with the lower income for sacrificing some power to earn income during the marriage;
to compensate the spouse with the lower income for ongoing care of children; or
to help a spouse who is in financial need if the other spouse has the ability to pay.
At the same time, the judge must consider that a spouse who receives support has an obligation to become self-supporting, where reasonable.
Spousal Misconduct
Canada has no-fault divorce law. This means the reasons the marriage ended do not affect a spouse's legal obligation to support the other spouse following a divorce.
Payment of both Child and Spousal Support
If either spouse is paying child support, the judge must also determine how a requirement to pay spousal support would affect child support payments. The Divorce Act clearly states that a judge must give priority to child support when a person applies for both child and spousal support. Both parents have an obligation to support their children.
So in the case of a stay-at-home parent, spousal support maybe be awarded
They don't have that in Oz?
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
Divorce is such an ugly thing Renee, even when it's necessary..
We have several divorced families in our church and they are the ones I know of..
How so?
I was wondering that too.
How would that be accomplished? Minimum age and length of relationship requirements? Proof of financial means? Compatibility testing? Lie detector tests?
I don't know, I haven't thought about the how part.
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I know several divorced women who have to scratch and claw for every dime that is owed to their kids because the father is a deadbeat or they simply have a lackadaisical attitude toward their responsibilities.
As it's been already said by the wolf dude...."real men pay their child support".
Damn straight.
Any man that abandons his children is no man.
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Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application
Australia has what's called "spouse maintenance." By no means is it the lottery winnings that alimony is here in Canada and the States, but it does exist there still, in a much lesser form.
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Here in Oz, there is no such thing as alimony. Only child support, which ceases when the child turns 16 unless the Court orders otherwise. There is no need to prove fault in a divorce application
Australia has what's called "spouse maintenance." By no means is it the lottery winnings that alimony is here in Canada and the States, but it does exist there still, in a much lesser form.
Do you pay alimony Ace?
Do no answer the question if you feel it is too personal.
I'll answer any question!
I do not pay alimony. I'm smart when it comes to women, as I know deep down what many truly view men as.
I treated my ex very well, but when she left, she wasn't entitled to a dime, and didn't get a dime.
And other simple things, like holding joint bank accounts, are things that I simply refuse to do.
As much as I loved her, and her wanting to Marry me, I knew full well even then how women work.
And I was right! It's not that hard to predict outcomes, as first marriages have a failure rate of over 50%. Subsequent marriages have even a higher failure rate.
I'm good with numbers, and know what "odds" are... It's easy to be blinded by women when they put the "I Love You" act on. It's just an act with women. It ALWAYS is just an act.
And as such, I always protect myself in the event that they leave.
I have been divorced and I have paid child maintenance payments, but not for my ex.
Mate and I each took 2 brief tries with others. Both of us afflicted with the dreaded slow learning curve for selection, we finally got it right
It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
Can you give an example of a cultural difference you and your wife have experienced Herman?
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
...and she'd move all the way to Saskatchewan with you? Man, that must be a leap of faith to jump into those prairie winters, eh Herman?
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
...and she'd move all the way to Saskatchewan with you? Man, that must be a leap of faith to jump into those prairie winters, eh Herman?
lol
Sorry about posting something in 2 threads, but this one belongs here
I always loved this fun one of Roy's - Can't find a live version
Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone - His lighthearted parody of country music
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I always loved this fun one of Roy's - Can't find a live version
Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone - His lighthearted parody of country music
That's a funny song.
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
...and she'd move all the way to Saskatchewan with you? Man, that must be a leap of faith to jump into those prairie winters, eh Herman?
This is my second time around. It is hard to be married doing what I do for work, but I was lucky more than a decade ago to find someone who can accept the lifestyle. My little Asian sweetheart has put her career on hold to follow me to some inhospitable places around this big old world. My little farm in Saskatchewan is paradise if you compare where I had taken her. I am making less money and working less now, but my sweetheart is happy to be working and that makes me happy. I am returning the favor for her sacrifices.
And I know you do not think too highly of us divorced and remarried folks. But this time has been a charm for me.
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It took for both of us right from its insane crazy start and continues to be an increasing pleasure for 25 years, a definite keeper for both of us ... "still crazy after all these years" :sneaky2:
3rd time lucky, very lucky ac_smile .. hang in there, choose wisely and for reasons that matter most to you. It can happen in the end
I got married and became a dad young. We grew up together and I still talk to my ex even though we both remarried. Second time around much better. I met her while working in Indonesia, but she is not Indonesian. There is an age difference between us and a cultural divide that seems to get smaller with the passing of time.
...and she'd move all the way to Saskatchewan with you? Man, that must be a leap of faith to jump into those prairie winters, eh Herman?
This is my second time around. It is hard to be married doing what I do for work, but I was lucky more than a decade ago to find someone who can accept the lifestyle. My little Asian sweetheart has put her career on hold to follow me to some inhospitable places around this big old world. My little farm in Saskatchewan is paradise if you compare where I had taken her. I am making less money and working less now, but my sweetheart is happy to be working and that makes me happy. I am returning the favor for her sacrifices.
And I know you do not think too highly of us divorced and remarried folks. But this time has been a charm for me.
You are a very good man Herman..
Your wife is very fortunate.
ac_smile
I personally do not care for politically correctness but I must say that I would not want to be referred to as the "little Asian so and so..." No offense, Herman, but I would just leave that out and that's just my opinion on the matter anyway and no one has to agree. It still makes me wonder why some people say that--"my little Asian wife." Why "little?" I never hear "my little black wife or my little white wife." To the speaker, it could be a term of endearment so that's fine but I've said what I think of it.
Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
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Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
I know I am never going to win an award for Blue Cashew's most politically correct poster. But, I have tried to be careful what I say. I have worked thirty years on drilling and service rigs. The language I use on the job would make odinson blush like a little girl. This aint no lease, so I try to clean up the tongue. It's frickn hard sometimes which is why I have the signature I do. I would never deliberately disrespect my angel of a wife. But, I am glad you pointed out how some people view the way I refer to her.
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Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
That's just the way he talks.
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Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
I know I am never going to win an award for Blue Cashew's most politically correct poster. But, I have tried to be careful what I say. I have worked thirty years on drilling and service rigs. The language I use on the job would make odinson blush like a little girl. This aint no lease, so I try to clean up the tongue. It's frickn hard sometimes which is why I have the signature I do. I would never deliberately disrespect my angel of a wife. But, I am glad you pointed out how some people view the way I refer to her.
I thought it was sweet and endearing. You can tell how much you love and care about her.
I don't care how many times someone has to marry until they find the love of their life.
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
I know I am never going to win an award for Blue Cashew's most politically correct poster. But, I have tried to be careful what I say. I have worked thirty years on drilling and service rigs. The language I use on the job would make odinson blush like a little girl. This aint no lease, so I try to clean up the tongue. It's frickn hard sometimes which is why I have the signature I do. I would never deliberately disrespect my angel of a wife. But, I am glad you pointed out how some people view the way I refer to her.
I thought it was sweet and endearing. You can tell how much you love and care about her.
I don't care how many times someone has to marry until they find the love of their life.
I thought is sweet too RW...
It's not up to me to judge anyone for being remarried no matter how many times.
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
I know I am never going to win an award for Blue Cashew's most politically correct poster. But, I have tried to be careful what I say. I have worked thirty years on drilling and service rigs. The language I use on the job would make odinson blush like a little girl. This aint no lease, so I try to clean up the tongue. It's frickn hard sometimes which is why I have the signature I do. I would never deliberately disrespect my angel of a wife. But, I am glad you pointed out how some people view the way I refer to her.
I thought it was sweet and endearing. You can tell how much you love and care about her.
I don't care how many times someone has to marry until they find the love of their life.
Well thank you RW.
The have-notley government is searching for 96 people(both men and women) who a combined $6.6 million in court-ordered Maintenance Enforcement Program (MEP) payments to their spouses and children in Alberta as of Oct. 2015, an average of roughly $69,500 each.
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The Alberta government is seeking tips on the whereabouts of 96 people who owe a combined total of $6.6 million in court-ordered Maintenance Enforcement Program (MEP) payments to their spouses and children in Alberta as of Oct. 2015, an average of roughly $69,500 each.
The government lists them online, including photos and physical descriptions, in an aim to have the public help find them. Only people who have defaulted on their payments for more than six months and cannot be found through extensive employment searches and motor vehicle registrations or have an arrest warrant requested by MEP are listed online.
"Child, spousal and partner support is a critical responsibility," said Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley.
"This web page is a useful tool we use to track down the hardest to find debtors in the MEP. It helps Albertans obtain the court-ordered funds to support their family's well-being."
The "help us find" portion of the website is a "last resort tool" that's proven to work, says the government. When the number of debtors spiked to 145 people in 2009, Albertans helped locate 76 people on the list. In 2014, they helped find 19 people.
The government acknowledges "potential privacy concerns" on the page, but says the profiles are reviewed on a case-by-case basis by MEP investigators before any information is posted online.
Of the 96 debtors listed, 93 are men and 3 are women. A majority come from urban areas, with 26 debtors from the Edmonton region and 29 from Calgary and surrounding communities. The youngest person listed is 31 while the oldest is 70.
The debtors are largely men working in the trades, with former employers in construction, plumbing, carpentry, transportation or oilfield-related work. The list also includes people who have worked as cooks, IT systems analysts, car dealers and even one former real estate agent for Century 21.
Alberta and Ontario are currently the only Canadian provinces that list debtors information online in order to ask for tips, but the "help us find" tool is commonly used by versions of the MEP in several jurisdictions in the Unites States.
The names, photos and profiles are at https://justice.alberta.ca/programs_services/mep/Pages/helpUsFindlistDebtors.aspx
The MEP tip line is 780-401-8477 or toll free in Alberta at 310-0000.
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Fine. That's also just how I feel about the matter which I continue to stand by.
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Fine. That's also just how I feel about the matter which I continue to stand by.
Nobody's asking either of you to change. You're both respected posters.
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The Alberta government is seeking tips on the whereabouts of 96 people who owe a combined total of $6.6 million in court-ordered Maintenance Enforcement Program (MEP) payments to their spouses and children in Alberta as of Oct. 2015, an average of roughly $69,500 each.
The government lists them online, including photos and physical descriptions, in an aim to have the public help find them. Only people who have defaulted on their payments for more than six months and cannot be found through extensive employment searches and motor vehicle registrations or have an arrest warrant requested by MEP are listed online.
"Child, spousal and partner support is a critical responsibility," said Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley.
"This web page is a useful tool we use to track down the hardest to find debtors in the MEP. It helps Albertans obtain the court-ordered funds to support their family's well-being."
The "help us find" portion of the website is a "last resort tool" that's proven to work, says the government. When the number of debtors spiked to 145 people in 2009, Albertans helped locate 76 people on the list. In 2014, they helped find 19 people.
The government acknowledges "potential privacy concerns" on the page, but says the profiles are reviewed on a case-by-case basis by MEP investigators before any information is posted online.
Of the 96 debtors listed, 93 are men and 3 are women. A majority come from urban areas, with 26 debtors from the Edmonton region and 29 from Calgary and surrounding communities. The youngest person listed is 31 while the oldest is 70.
The debtors are largely men working in the trades, with former employers in construction, plumbing, carpentry, transportation or oilfield-related work. The list also includes people who have worked as cooks, IT systems analysts, car dealers and even one former real estate agent for Century 21.
Alberta and Ontario are currently the only Canadian provinces that list debtors information online in order to ask for tips, but the "help us find" tool is commonly used by versions of the MEP in several jurisdictions in the Unites States.
The names, photos and profiles are at https://justice.alberta.ca/programs_services/mep/Pages/helpUsFindlistDebtors.aspx
The MEP tip line is 780-401-8477 or toll free in Alberta at 310-0000.
Women walking away from their obligation to their children.
:shock:
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Quote from: "Shen Li"
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The Alberta government is seeking tips on the whereabouts of 96 people who owe a combined total of $6.6 million in court-ordered Maintenance Enforcement Program (MEP) payments to their spouses and children in Alberta as of Oct. 2015, an average of roughly $69,500 each.
The government lists them online, including photos and physical descriptions, in an aim to have the public help find them. Only people who have defaulted on their payments for more than six months and cannot be found through extensive employment searches and motor vehicle registrations or have an arrest warrant requested by MEP are listed online.
"Child, spousal and partner support is a critical responsibility," said Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley.
"This web page is a useful tool we use to track down the hardest to find debtors in the MEP. It helps Albertans obtain the court-ordered funds to support their family's well-being."
The "help us find" portion of the website is a "last resort tool" that's proven to work, says the government. When the number of debtors spiked to 145 people in 2009, Albertans helped locate 76 people on the list. In 2014, they helped find 19 people.
The government acknowledges "potential privacy concerns" on the page, but says the profiles are reviewed on a case-by-case basis by MEP investigators before any information is posted online.
Of the 96 debtors listed, 93 are men and 3 are women. A majority come from urban areas, with 26 debtors from the Edmonton region and 29 from Calgary and surrounding communities. The youngest person listed is 31 while the oldest is 70.
The debtors are largely men working in the trades, with former employers in construction, plumbing, carpentry, transportation or oilfield-related work. The list also includes people who have worked as cooks, IT systems analysts, car dealers and even one former real estate agent for Century 21.
Alberta and Ontario are currently the only Canadian provinces that list debtors information online in order to ask for tips, but the "help us find" tool is commonly used by versions of the MEP in several jurisdictions in the Unites States.
The names, photos and profiles are at https://justice.alberta.ca/programs_services/mep/Pages/helpUsFindlistDebtors.aspx
The MEP tip line is 780-401-8477 or toll free in Alberta at 310-0000.
Women walking away from their obligation to their children.
:shock:
Men who don't pay child support are not men, and women who do the same are still girls.
I don't see what's wrong with Herman referring to his spouse as a little Asian Wife.
I have a Canadian friend who married a Vietnamese wife as 'the little woman'.
He's a foot taller than she is. But he loves her and has been married for over 10 years.
Actually he moved to Vietnam and he doesn't live here anymore.
Y'know, there are so many North American guys who are avoiding North American women because they feel they're not worth the trouble, they're too demanding, their asking price is too high and they've put themselves out of reach. So many of my friends in Canada are divorced and owing lots of alimony and child support. They get deserted, and although their marriages didn't last, the divorce does and they'll keep paying until death do them part. Marriage was supposed to be permanent, but now it's the opposite way around.
Actually, if I was serious about marriage, I'd do 'a Herman' myself, and look for a wife outside of North America and move outta here like my friend did & live happily ever after. Even if the marriage didn't last, at least the penalty wouldn't be so severe.
I have a friend from the Philippines and he says there is no divorce in that country. And even it doesn't work out, there's no alimony either, so the penalties upon a man aren't so severe as they are in Canada or the US. He tells me its common for a Philippine man to have several mistresses without paying the consequences over there. That place is what many would consider 'a man's country' as opposed to what North America has become.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Anyway, as far as your comment about how some people don't think too highly of divorced and remarried folks, well the hell with them hypocrites! Who are they to judge? They're no better in my opinion. Show me someone who has nothing to hide or no flaws they'd rather not share. The ones who are the worse are those who have been divorced and remarried and yet act high and mighty when you mention your own divorce and relationship issues like they never came from a failed one. Bwahahaha! What blatant hypocrites those people are indeed! Fuckers.
I know I am never going to win an award for Blue Cashew's most politically correct poster. But, I have tried to be careful what I say. I have worked thirty years on drilling and service rigs. The language I use on the job would make odinson blush like a little girl. This aint no lease, so I try to clean up the tongue. It's frickn hard sometimes which is why I have the signature I do. I would never deliberately disrespect my angel of a wife. But, I am glad you pointed out how some people view the way I refer to her.
Quote from: "J0E"
I have a Canadian friend who married a Vietnamese wife as 'the little woman'.
He's a foot taller than she is. But he loves her and has been married for over 10 years.
Actually he moved to Vietnam and he doesn't live here anymore.
Y'know, there are so many North American guys who are avoiding North American women because they feel they're not worth the trouble, they're too demanding, their asking price is too high and they've put themselves out of reach. So many of my friends in Canada are divorced and owing lots of alimony and child support. They get deserted, and although their marriages didn't last, the divorce does and they'll keep paying until death do them part. Marriage was supposed to be permanent, but now it's the opposite way around.
Actually, if I was serious about marriage, I'd do 'a Herman' myself, and look for a wife outside of North America and move outta here like my friend did & live happily ever after. Even if the marriage didn't last, at least the penalty wouldn't be so severe.
I have a friend from the Philippines and he says there is no divorce in that country. And even it doesn't work out, there's no alimony either, so the penalties upon a man aren't so severe as they are in Canada or the US. He tells me its common for a Philippine man to have several mistresses without paying the consequences over there. That place is what many would consider 'a man's country' as opposed to what North America has become.
Some people are offended by how words are used and others are not..
If someone is offended by being called
It seems Herman's wife does not object.
Quote from: "J0E"
I have a Canadian friend who married a Vietnamese wife as 'the little woman'.
He's a foot taller than she is. But he loves her and has been married for over 10 years.
Actually he moved to Vietnam and he doesn't live here anymore.
Y'know, there are so many North American guys who are avoiding North American women because they feel they're not worth the trouble, they're too demanding, their asking price is too high and they've put themselves out of reach. So many of my friends in Canada are divorced and owing lots of alimony and child support. They get deserted, and although their marriages didn't last, the divorce does and they'll keep paying until death do them part. Marriage was supposed to be permanent, but now it's the opposite way around.
Actually, if I was serious about marriage,
WOW Joe, you are really looking for a reaction with this cheesy flame post. ac_toofunny ac_lmfao
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
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The Alberta government is seeking tips on the whereabouts of 96 people who owe a combined total of $6.6 million in court-ordered Maintenance Enforcement Program (MEP) payments to their spouses and children in Alberta as of Oct. 2015, an average of roughly $69,500 each.
The government lists them online, including photos and physical descriptions, in an aim to have the public help find them. Only people who have defaulted on their payments for more than six months and cannot be found through extensive employment searches and motor vehicle registrations or have an arrest warrant requested by MEP are listed online.
"Child, spousal and partner support is a critical responsibility," said Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley.
"This web page is a useful tool we use to track down the hardest to find debtors in the MEP. It helps Albertans obtain the court-ordered funds to support their family's well-being."
The "help us find" portion of the website is a "last resort tool" that's proven to work, says the government. When the number of debtors spiked to 145 people in 2009, Albertans helped locate 76 people on the list. In 2014, they helped find 19 people.
The government acknowledges "potential privacy concerns" on the page, but says the profiles are reviewed on a case-by-case basis by MEP investigators before any information is posted online.
Of the 96 debtors listed, 93 are men and 3 are women. A majority come from urban areas, with 26 debtors from the Edmonton region and 29 from Calgary and surrounding communities. The youngest person listed is 31 while the oldest is 70.
The debtors are largely men working in the trades, with former employers in construction, plumbing, carpentry, transportation or oilfield-related work. The list also includes people who have worked as cooks, IT systems analysts, car dealers and even one former real estate agent for Century 21.
Alberta and Ontario are currently the only Canadian provinces that list debtors information online in order to ask for tips, but the "help us find" tool is commonly used by versions of the MEP in several jurisdictions in the Unites States.
The names, photos and profiles are at https://justice.alberta.ca/programs_services/mep/Pages/helpUsFindlistDebtors.aspx
The MEP tip line is 780-401-8477 or toll free in Alberta at 310-0000.
Women walking away from their obligation to their children.
:shock:
Men who don't pay child support are not men, and women who do the same are still girls.
I'm gonna move ta some place like Asia or Latin America if I'm really serious about marriage, Herman.
You remarried/divorced guys here have really opened my eyes up about the situation in North America & how it's not fair to a man.
It's not 50-50 nor is it 'no fault'. They guy does most of the heavy lifting and takes all the blame.
"If you broke it, you own it" kinda divorce model.
A Brazilian friend of mine told me that if the marriage breaks up in Brazil, the courts/laws trying to make a fairer settlement.
Sole custody or mostly custody is much rarer than it is in North America. It's joint and shared.
As well as the liability, the courts there look at it as a matter of shared fault rather than pointing the finger at the guy and saying "It's your fault!"
I'll pay for your ticket to Patong Beach Puket ... but you have to leave soon
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Make it Pattaya and he can go rooting with Gordy. Be his wing man, ie hold his "ho" money for him.
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Make it Pattaya and he can go rooting with Gordy. Be his wing man, ie hold his "ho" money for him.
I can only imagine in my nightmares what kind of creatures would even consent to "root" with that pig, Gordy. :laugh3:
Missing teeth, extra toes, humps and lazy eyes. :shock:
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Quote from: "cc la femme"
Make it Pattaya and he can go rooting with Gordy. Be his wing man, ie hold his "ho" money for him.
I can only imagine in my nightmares what kind of creatures would even consent to "root" with that pig, Gordy. :laugh3:
Missing teeth, extra toes, humps and lazy eyes. :shock:
That's why he goes to Thailand. He couldn't get laid in an Australian prison with a fist full of pardons.
Quote from: "J0E"
I have a Canadian friend who married a Vietnamese wife as 'the little woman'.
He's a foot taller than she is. But he loves her and has been married for over 10 years.
Actually he moved to Vietnam and he doesn't live here anymore.
Y'know, there are so many North American guys who are avoiding North American women because they feel they're not worth the trouble, they're too demanding, their asking price is too high and they've put themselves out of reach. So many of my friends in Canada are divorced and owing lots of alimony and child support. They get deserted, and although their marriages didn't last, the divorce does and they'll keep paying until death do them part. Marriage was supposed to be permanent, but now it's the opposite way around.
Actually, if I was serious about marriage,
Doing a Herman? What the hell is that supposed to mean Joe? Are you saying I was intentionally looking for a woman from the Orient? You did not get an idea like that from anything I have said here. I was quite happy being single when we met through work. There are quite a few women wellsite geologists these days, but she was only the second one I ever worked with. We were both expats working in Indonesia and we had instant chemistry. We started living together on our time off in Indonesia and we got married.
Don't make assumptions. I have nothing against North American women. In fact my mother and my sisters are North American women. I had an exotic job for a Saskatchewan farm boy with only a high school education. I made great money, drove slick vehicles where ever I lived and I had no trouble getting laid anywhere when I was single.
Do a herman - I meant that in a complimentary way.
I now think that it's smart for a guy to marry a poor girl from a developing country with low expectations than a rich one.
Y'know what I've noticed in this country is how even little girls have this sense of entitlement, and when they don't deserve it..
They're often demanding, ultraaggressive. everything handed to them and they're not grateful for what they got.
They don't say Thank You, they don't say please.
They're spoiled.
I was quite surprised that a lady friend of mine from the Philippines thought that today's girls, even her own daugthers were 'mean'. That's what she said. She said that kindness, honesty and decency in a woman meant something when she was growing up there, but not anymore.
That it's better to do what you and my friend in Vietnam did - meet or marry someone from a poor country because then maybe they won't make so many demands. And they'll be grateful for what they get.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "J0E"
I have a Canadian friend who married a Vietnamese wife as 'the little woman'.
He's a foot taller than she is. But he loves her and has been married for over 10 years.
Actually he moved to Vietnam and he doesn't live here anymore.
Y'know, there are so many North American guys who are avoiding North American women because they feel they're not worth the trouble, they're too demanding, their asking price is too high and they've put themselves out of reach. So many of my friends in Canada are divorced and owing lots of alimony and child support. They get deserted, and although their marriages didn't last, the divorce does and they'll keep paying until death do them part. Marriage was supposed to be permanent, but now it's the opposite way around.
Actually, if I was serious about marriage,
Doing a Herman? What the hell is that supposed to mean Joe? Are you saying I was intentionally looking for a woman from the Orient? You did not get an idea like that from anything I have said here. I was quite happy being single when we met through work. There are quite a few wellsite geologists these days, but she was only the second one I ever worked with. We were both expats working in Indonesia and we had instant chemistry. We started living together on our time off in Indonesia and we got married.
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I now think that it's smart for a guy to marry a poor girl from a developing country with low expectations than a rich one.
Y'know what I've noticed in this country is how even little girls have this sense of entitlement, and when they don't deserve it..
They're often demanding, ultraaggressive. everything handed to them and they're not grateful for what they got.
They don't say Thank You, they don't say please.
They're spoiled.
I was quite surprised that a lady friend of mine from the Philippines thought that today's girls, even her own daugthers were 'mean'. That's what she said. She said that kindness, honesty and decency in a woman meant something when she was growing up there, but not anymore.
That it's better to do what you and my friend in Vietnam did - meet or marry someone from a poor country because then maybe they won't make so many demands. And they'll be grateful for what they get.
You may need to marry a poor girl from a developing country, but I did not have to. I married an educated upper middle class woman. Like I said Joe, I had an exotic job by Saskatchewan farm boy standards, I made great money, I saw the world and I have always owned slick vehicles. It seems you have trouble getting laid and I feel for you brother. But, you will get taken to the cleaners in Asia if you are this pathetic.
Well there ya go. Joe admits he has no game and his only hope are poor women in third world brothels. He should give Gordy a call.
I'm taking in one of your divorced bretheren next week for a week or so, Herman.
He's gonna be stayin' at my place until the end of the month.
Says his ex-wife is breathing down his back for more money and sole custody of their son.
Perhaps if I put him on Skype you could counsel him on how ta git through the difficult times, eh?
Quote from: "Herman"
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I now think that it's smart for a guy to marry a poor girl from a developing country with low expectations than a rich one.
Y'know what I've noticed in this country is how even little girls have this sense of entitlement, and when they don't deserve it..
They're often demanding, ultraaggressive. everything handed to them and they're not grateful for what they got.
They don't say Thank You, they don't say please.
They're spoiled.
I was quite surprised that a lady friend of mine from the Philippines thought that today's girls, even her own daugthers were 'mean'. That's what she said. She said that kindness, honesty and decency in a woman meant something when she was growing up there, but not anymore.
That it's better to do what you and my friend in Vietnam did - meet or marry someone from a poor country because then maybe they won't make so many demands. And they'll be grateful for what they get.
You may need to marry a poor girl from a developing country, but I did not have to. I married an educated upper middle class woman. Like I said Joe, I had an exotic job by Saskatchewan farm boy standards, I made great money, I saw the world and I have always owned slick vehicles. It seems you have trouble getting laid and I feel for you brother. But, you will get taken to the cleaners in Asia if you are this pathetic.
Quote from: "J0E"
He's gonna be stayin' at my place until the end of the month.
Says his ex-wife is breathing down his back for more money and sole custody of their son.
Perhaps if I put him on Skype you could counsel him on how ta git through the difficult times, eh?
I am no counsellor Joe. If he needs advice about how to maximize crop yield I could help. There must be lots of divorced old farts like where you live. Ask one of them.